May 12, 2022 • 37 mins
Although New Yorker Buck has traveled internationally, he is heading to crime-riddled Chicago for the first time. He says it makes him contemplate: "Why am I being told that I need to go armed, I need to go strapped into Chicago?... We gotta fix this." Dem policies and BLM have destroyed American cities. Clay says, "When you demonize police officers, people pay with their lives who would otherwise have been protected by those police officers." Reuters journo fired for revealing true crime stats. Katie Pavlich joins C&B to discuss her blockbuster piece: Biden is sending baby formula to illegals at the border, not Americans. Youngkin to Garland: Enforce the law on SCOTUS protests.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast. Welcome and everybody to the Clay Travis
and Buck Sexton Show on this Thursday, May twelve. Appreciate
you hanging with us. A lot to discuss. We got
whistleblowers reveal the FBI labeled dozens of investigations into parents
with a threat tag created by the FBI's Counter Terrorism Division.
(00:25):
Dive into that in a little bit. Got a governor
young kid of Virginia saying that the Attorney General should
enforce the law when it comes to stopping these protests
that are meant to intimidate Supreme Court justices at their homes.
Law is pretty clear, and the Governor of Virginia agrees.
Some are saying that the Governor Virginia should use the
misdemeanor state law that is also at play here, but
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the federal law has more teeth and more serious penalties
attached to it. We've also got a whole bunch of
fantastic guests joining us. Our friend Katie Pavlich in just
a or of minutes, your Bottom of the Hour town
Hall editor, Fox News contributor got a pace on moving
baby formula the federal government moving baby formula to the
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southern border for illegal Migraines entering into the country. I
don't know if they're moving baby formula to anybody else
though right now, I haven't seen anything about that. We've
also got our friend Rob Smith, he's in Rock war Vett,
political analyst and a podcast host, joining us a second hour.
Kennedy of Kennedy on Fox Business. She'll be with us
in the third hour. So we got a lot to
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talk about, but I wanted to dive right now Clay
into It's it's fun to ask people when you're visiting
a place, as I'm going to Chicago, and I think
it's funny to for people to hear I mean, I've
been I've been to Thailand, I've been to Bangkok, I've
been to Buenos Ares, never been to Chicago, and this
is crazy. Like so I just finally woke up one
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day I was like, I'm going to America's third largest city.
It's just I had never set foot in the place
I've always wanted to go. Actually have some friends from
New York that have moved there permanently and love it.
It's one of those rare places where New Yorkers sometimes
will say that, you know, they've found their their forever
home and h and they like it better some of
them sometimes. And I asked everybody, as you know, and
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I got all these great recommendations. And now I've even
got the official social media accounts of different restaurants and things.
Time to go check it out. So it's fun to
have the reach that we do play on this show.
But there are also a whole lot of people who
are writing make sure you bring a bulletproof vest, make
sure you go armed, watch out, keep your head on
a swivel. And I'm sitting here, first of all, I'm
from New York City. Okay, it's not it's I'm not
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coming from h you know, eastern Montana where there hasn't
been a homicide in twenty years or something like this
is this is a I'm a guy who worked for
the NYPD. I'll be all right, but it is. It
is frustrating because the crime situation in the country right
now in major cities is bad. It has gotten a
lot worse, and we should look at why, and we
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should look at why going into this midterm election before
we dive into what do you what do you think
the primary reason is why do Why am I being
told that I need to go armed? I need to
go strapped into Chicago? Nine hundred shootings plus actually it's
a little over nine hundred shootings, over a hundred of
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those dead. It's not even halfway into the year. The
city only has two and a half million people. And
this is playing out in different ways in New York
and Phoenix, in la in Portland, and you know, name
a city in Atlantic, all over the place. Miami actually
does not have a huge increase in homicides the last
couple of years. Something else that I looked up recently, Clay,
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we got to fix this. So how does the country
fix this? What we need to do? It's it's a
good question. And I was looking reading the Wall Street
Journal yesterday, and for gun murders, we hit a high
that went all the way back to nineteen ninety four
in twenty twenty. And if you look at the graphics
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of annual deaths by homicide per hundred thousand people, it's
skyrocketed in twenty twenty, and the numbers have gone up
pretty substantially since twenty sixteen. What happened? BLM, all right?
I mean this is the truth, and it's it's an
inconvenient truth that a lot of left wingers don't want
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to acknowledge that lots of people who consider themselves quote
unquote mainstream journalists that aren't allied with either position, Buck,
the data does not lie with the rise of the
BM movement. Thousands of otherwise would be still alive today.
Black people who were to a large extent being protected
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by police officers who are white, Black, Asian and Hispanic
have been kept from doing their job. And the murder
rate and the shooting rate has skyrocketed. And you can't
argue against this anymore, right, What did they say for
a long time, Oh, it's because of the pandemic. But
when you actually looked at the data in twenty twenty,
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the COVID numbers were way down because people were staying
home in March, in April and May. These murder rates
skyrocketed starting with the George Floyd protests, and they have
continued to skyrocket all over the country, new records unfortunately
being set for murders in many different communities, lots of
cities where people are listening to us right now, Buck,
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and they still try to argue a variety of different things.
I saw somebody the other day say, well, this is
one of the costs of inflation. It's like, one of
the cost of inflation is a rising murder rate. I
don't know that I buy into this at all. And
they're looking for any possible explanation other than the one
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that is staring us right in the face, which is
when you demonize police officers, people pay with their lives
who would otherwise have been protected by those police officer.
And there's a part of me that just feels frustration.
And you know, we're Americans. We have pride in our
in our country and in our major cities, and it's
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it's sad to me when I'm when I'm going to
a major city. I know we've got Chicagoans. We're listening now,
And I understand some of this is people just being
a little provocative, but the Chicago does have a reputation
now because of all the shootings that are happening there,
and the Democrat who runs the city, the mayor, Lawry Lightfoot,
and the Democrats who run all these other cities are failing.
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And the corporations that spent millions and millions over one
hundred million dollars bending the knee and begging forgiveness of
the BLM movement should know that their money did It's
not only that they did not help. That the BLM
movement failed to help. The BLM movement made things worse,
and and that has to we have to have. I
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know they don't want to have this argument that I
wanted this debate, but Clay, instead of us just relying
on the narrative, I can turn learned to or rather
a battle of narratives. I can turn to this excellent
we like we gotta get Barry Weiss on the show's
fantastic work on her substack. She has a guest writer
she often does, Zach Kriegman. I criticized BLM. This is
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Zach Kriegman's piece. I criticized BLM. Then I was fired,
and as I was reading this, this is one of
the reasons I sent it to you. This guy Clay
is the Reuters chief data scientists. Now Reuters, it provides
the news feed that a lot of other news organizations
rely on as their news ticker. And so the narrative
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power of Reuters and the Associated Press even exceeds what
you may have from some of the better known, you know,
the the other media entities out there, right, Yes, but
I was thinking about you because this guy, he's not
one of us in terms of his Ideologi's not a conservative.
But he's looking at the numbers and he's looking at
what BLM is saying is happening and what is really happening,
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and he crunched all the data, and I just to
to cut to the chase here. You've already found out
that in a use of force situation where there could
be any discussion about a police officer using lethal force,
white Americans were more likely to be shot than black
Americans in similar situations and circumstances. His data findings aligned
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almost exactly with Professor Fryer at Harvard. You've brought this
study up before, who also found that white Americans in
a use of force situation with police are more likely
to be shot. Now we could discuss why that is
in perception, Clay, what do you think happens when he
puts that finding on the internal chat board of Reuters.
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It's not acceptable because it conflicts with the narrative. Let's
start there, and there are going to be oftentimes there's
lots of people listening to us who would think about
this inside of their company. Even when you're sharing raw data,
even when you are just sharing what the data shows,
you are in danger of being called racist, right, and
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most people are fearful of doing this. I've said it before, Bucket,
but bears repeating. Over half of all murders in America
are committed by black men. Black men represent around six
or seven percent of the United States population. So you
are talking. This is facts, It's not racism. Is direct
factual evidence. Over half of all murders are committed by
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around six or seven percent of the population, even smaller
than that, honestly, because most murders are committed by men.
And we sometimes have fun with this data. Right in
terms of sex because if you were to say, oh,
the police are overwhelmingly sexist because they only arrest men
by and large four violent crimes. Why aren't women being
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arrested in proportion to their population, Well, people would say, well,
men are more violent, so police are having to interact
with them more. So you tried to make a sexism
argument there, people laugh at you. Why can't you look
at the raw data and say, police buy and large
are responding to violent criminals. A eighty eight year old
Hispanic woman is probably not going to end up in
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a violent interaction with a police officer. A sixteen year
old white kid might, right, because age and sex factor
into a large degree in terms of the overall criminal population.
But you can't talk about that in some of these corporations.
So tell us what happened to this guy who looked
at the numbers shared the factual data inside of Reuters,
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which is ostensibly, we should say, a neutral news organization.
It's not like we're talking about MSNBC, right, supposed to
just be justified. Yet, yes, Ruters is supposed to be
the gold standard of journalism, as journalism is meant to be.
And of course if you believe that, you know, I
got a bridge to sell you in the middle of nowhere.
But this is what happened. He got fed to the
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diversity and inclusion HR machinery. And as I've said before,
you hunt for Red October, you've seen it right, great, yeah, yeah, yeah.
The first person that Sean Connery when he's Ramius takes
out is the political commissar. Because this was a real
practice in the Soviet Union. There were people, whether it
was on the factory floor or in the front line
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of a military unit. Their only job was to monitor
the conversations and the political fealty of other people than
the Soviet Union. Essentially, you better say the Communist Party
is great and our leadership is amazing, or you're going
to end up in the Gulag straight up. In a
different context with different severity, but similar mentality, diversity and inclusion.
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HR departments are kind of like the commissars. They're there
to make sure you say what you're supposed to say,
or you get fired. This guy starts having the meetings.
They say it was provocative, They say what he posted
was antagonistic. He said, well, can I who says that?
Can I? Can I actually sit and have a conversation
with whomever inn HR says that. They say no. Someone
said this was the favorite comment that I saw, just
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and how crazy it was. My unwillingness. This is one
of his colleagues who wrote on the the chat, Clay,
my unwillingness to engage with you doesn't signal the strength
of your argument. If someone says that KKK did lots
of good things for the community, prove me wrong. I'm
not obligated to do so end quote. So this is
how they handle it. He puts up data and they say,
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we won't engage with your data because it would be
like saying that KKK did good things. The argument is
so stupid and so intellectually embarrassing. And you know what
they did after all this, they fired him six years
at Reuters, fired for sharing data in an internal chat thread.
No one says the data is wrong, no one questioned
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the actual numbers not allowed. That's the country we're in now.
And by the way, he points out back to our
initial premise here on BLM clay that the narrative of
police are killing all these people with no cause except
racism has resulted in a lot of people, particularly are
disproportionately black people dying who would not have died BLM.
(13:06):
I believe this. The BLM protests have likely led to
thousands of additional black lives. And again this data point
is important. Seventy five percent of all people's shot every year,
according to Washington Post database by police, are white, Asian
or Hispanic. How often do you hear about someone other
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than a black person shot by police? Almost never? Seventy
five percent of all police shootings white Asian or hispanic.
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We're about to be joined by Katie Pavlich to talk
about what has rapidly become one of the biggest stories
of supply chain crisis that has existed in a long
line of supply chain issues that have spread the length
and width and breadth of this country. If you listen, yesterday,
we opened up the phone lines and we were taking calls,
and we had calls literally from across the country. Savannah, Georgia,
(15:19):
Santa Barbara, California, some of you guys out there talking
about the difficulty that you are having finding baby formula.
And this story is continuing to grow because the White
House doesn't appear to have anyone in charge to be
managing this issue, and they haven't Buck talked about yesterday,
and I saw Senator Josh Holly from Missouri tweet about this.
(15:42):
They were quick to demand the Defense Authorization in order
to get ventilators in twenty twenty that ultimately we ended
up not using hardly any of them. In the grand
scheme of things, how is it that the government is
not mobilizing to ensure that there is enough baby formula?
Worse than that, as our next guest Katie Pavlich is
about to discuss with us Buck, they are simultaneously sending
(16:07):
massive amounts of baby formula to the border for illegal
immigrants crossing into our country to have for their children. Now,
I understand the difficulty of any baby that needs to
be fed, but if you had to provide for American
citizens or illegal immigrants, which one should be the focus
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of an administration that was truly committed to serving the
American public. This is not a difficult proposition. And this
is growing into an increasingly massive political issue for Joe Biden,
dealing with a lot of bombs out there who may
well have voted for Joe Biden and now bear shelves
Biden has come for their own baby's formula. I still
(16:50):
have been asking, is there any food stuff that is
more essential to have access to than bright because, as
we've said, okay, there's Remember I remember during a pandemic
in New York, you would see what people really First
of all, you see what people thought was storable, right,
so drive pasta can goods couldn't get that anywhere. And
then you'd go in the meat shelves and it'd be
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you know, like tongue meat, like weird desirable, the least
desirable food revealed. And and and I will say, in those
in those dark and frightening times, for a lot of people,
one of the funniest things was just to see, yeah,
that's right, commies, all the like soy tofu turkey stuff
was still there, like all the fake meat stuff. People
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are going into a pandemic, and it's like, yeah, do
I want side ten or am I just gonna go hungry?
And sure enough the side ten was still on the shelves.
But baby formula, I don't I don't know how you
were if you if you're baby, And people say, oh,
but they're some babies need specific formula. They've got dietary issues.
Even I have Celiac disease. Babies can have celiac disease.
It can manifest very early. It's a big deal. So
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we'll talk to Katie about how it's getting. The federal
government moving it to the border right now in some places,
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Travis and Buck Sexton Show. We've been telling you about
the baby formula shortage. Biden is holding an event today.
Press not going to be there, but they'll give a
read out to the press on the baby formula shortage.
He's going to be speaking with retailers and manufacturers. Apparently
that's from the White House. But there's something else going
(19:24):
on here. Biden administration shipping palettes of baby formula to
the border. That's the Townhall piece. It's up at clay
en Buck dot com right now from Katie Pavlich who
joins us right now from Foxnews. She's a Townhall dot
com columnists as well. Katie, great to have you on
the program. Hey, guys, thanks so much for having me
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tell us about this one. Because we had a Katie,
we could have taken phone calls for the whole show
yesterday from just anxious and pretty furious parents who are
scrambling to get baby formula. You're a piece in town Hall.
Lets everybody know that. Well, there's no problem with baby
formula at the southern border. What's going on? Yeah, So
(20:08):
Republican Congressan cachemic had a God Patrol agent contact her,
sending her photos of stock shelves inside a Border patrol
processing facility with baby formula and told her that there
are palettes of baby formula that have been delivered to
these processing centers. So while shelves in the stores across
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America are bear and parents are driving hours and hours
to find formula for their children, the federal government clearly
has some kind of contract to buy up the limited
supply and deliver it not to those stores, but to
processing centers on the southern border. So this of course
brings up two issues. The first is that the crisis
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of the southern border is a man made Biden administration problem,
and as we dig further into the reasons behind this
baby formula shortage, it's clear that that's also another Biden
administration federal government problem, with the FDA shutting down a
major plant that then not reopening it, putting it, wrapping
it in a bunch of red tape. And now, of
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course there's a limited supply, and much of that is
now going to solve the crisis on the border with
people coming across with their children, who of course still
need to be fed as well. So it's infuriating, it's
frustrating parents, are you know, wondering where the next case
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of that is going to come for their family, and
there seems to be plenty available for people who broke
the lot to get into the country, but not enough
available for people who are citizens of the country. Kayu's
great work by you, and it also shines a light
on how little attention is being played paid to the
border that it might take a baby formula shortage and
therefore baby formula being shipped to the border for many
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in the media actually cover anything there. As we are
talking right now, I just got and alert sent to
my phone from the Wall Street Journal and the headline
is baby formulas shortage could last four months. In other words,
this is not something that is going to leave anytime soon.
They are now limiting how much parents can buy inside
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of stores when they actually find baby formula there, Katie,
we know from the pandemic. Unfortunately a lot of us
experienced this. When there is a fear of a shortage
in a product, it actually exacerbates the shortage because when
people find it, they buy more of it than they
other would otherwise would How does this get fixed for
so many moms and dads out there that are trying
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desperately to find baby formula all over the country. Well,
the FDA could work to get this major plant back
open after there was a recall. It's been months now.
They keep saying they want it to be safe for
our parents and babies. Obviously everybody wants that to be true,
but they keep throwing up these roadblocks to reopen this
plant that supplies the country with something like percent of
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the baby formula. Also, I would note that yesterday the
incoming Press Secretary Kareean Jean Pierre, whose first day starts tomorrow,
she's currently the deputy Press Secretary, who was asked specifically
about how the Biden administration is working to manage this
crisis as it gets worse. She gave you a paragraph
worth of statements about how they're working at twenty four
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to seven, how they're looking at all of the options,
the usual bureaucratic speak, and then when their follow up
question was asked about who exactly is handling the situation,
she literally laughed out loud and said that she did
not know we played that audio. That's a problem. So
they're claiming that they're dealing with this issue. I'm wondering
where Pee Buddha Judge is at this point, and you
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know that our government could do a lot when it
comes to commerce and figuring out how to look at
these contracts maybe that are going to the border and
maybe limit the number of baby formula palets that are
sent to there before they're sent to American stores across
the country. There's a couple of different options they have,
but we haven't heard much about it. We're speaking to
Katie Pavlich, editor at townhall dot com, Fox News contributor, Katie.
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I know you spent a lot of time down at
the border and have a lot of contacts in border patrol, immigrations,
and customs enforcement. What are you hearing from them about
what's going to go on here with the title forty
two revocation which supposed to happen here in a couple
of weeks. I know there's a judge that's involved at
this stage, but also given the number that just came
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out yesterday one hundred and seven thousand overdoses, mostly fentonel
and most of that vast majority of that's coming across
the border illegally, feels like there's renewed urgency to get
this right. What are your border patrol contacts and folks
telling you. Look, they're saying basically, border patrol has been
turned into a processing agency, and Immigration and Customs Enforcement
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has been turned into a travel agency. The administration's response
to Title forty two getting take and off in the
estimates of eighteen thousand people a day crossing the border
is not to deter people from coming, to put up
barriers to entry. It's to simply open up new processing
centers so they can process these people through and then
give them a plane ticket to wherever they want to go.
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That's the solution that they're they're offering here, and Border
patrol is terrible morale at this point. You know, their
job and their mission is to protect the homeland from
foreign threats from drug traffickers, as you mentioned, from human trackers,
from human smugglers. But this administration's policies have been to
simply process thousands of people through the system and to
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let them go into the country. It's it's kind of
like having a roof, a leak in your roof and
putting out a bucket, and then as the bucket fills
up and the leak gets bigger, they just add a
couple of buckets. So that's what they're doing. They're going
to open up new processing centers. They're going to put
people in the front of the line for Title forty
two processing in terms of the court system, making the
backlog worse. So that's where we're headed as a result
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of this, Katie, when we talk about baby formulas shortages
and the border being a sieve and inflation at eight
point five or eight point three percent, you've got obviously
murder rate skyrocketing everywhere. You're really smart, You're good at
communication skills. If Joe Biden came to you and he said, Katie,
I need you to make a pitch for something that
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I've done really well so far in my presidency nearly
eighteen months. Buck and I are fairly smart guys. We
can't even come up with a pitch for Joe Biden
as we get closer to the mid terms. I'm not
talking about the abortion angle. What has Joe Biden actually
done well? Can you even think? I mean, then it
truly is incomprehensible how bad he has been, even for
(26:46):
people who expected and I think Buck and I are
in this camp that you are too, that it wasn't
going to be good. But I don't think any of
us expected him to be this bad. Could you even
point to anything that hasn't been a disaster for him? Well, no,
I mean his pit just not to the entire country
as he promised, mister unification. His pitches to the far
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left of his party. He's controlled by the far left
of his party. If you look at the move they
made yesterday to stop the leasing in Alaska and the
Gulf of Mexico, you know they think that that is
a pitch to the base, hoping that the base gets
out to admit in midterms, because midterm elections are base elections,
and that's who he's pitching to. That's who he wants
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to talk to, that's who he's communicated to. So if
you see it from that perspective, you know, there are
a number of far left policies that he's implemented that
he would see as a success, that they would see
as a success. But for the rest of the country
it has been a complete and total disaster. It's like
you look at those foals that show you know, do
you think that Joe Biden is doing a good job,
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and like thirty percent of the country still says yes,
And you wonder who those people are well, if that's
the far left of the base that thinks that these
things that he's doing are good for the country or
like a cleaning up of whatever they think that Trump did,
and that's who he's speaking to. He's not speaking to
the entire country. You've got Katie's piece linked up at
clainbuck dot com on plenty of formula at the border,
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but not for all the rest of the American people. Katie,
thanks so much for being with us. Come back soon,
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Buck about to head to Chicago. So if you you
see a great head of hair and accompanied by a
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nice young woman, yes, probably is mister Sexton himself in
Chicago for the first time. And Buck, I want to
just mentioned this, by the way, as we as we
close out the first hour. When we come back at
the start of the second hour, I want to dive
into this ridiculous whistleblower situation that is going on where
parents were investigated for what they said at school boards
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and more. But this is pretty crazy when you consider
how aggressive Buck Merrick Garland the ag was responding to
any minor criticism that ever existed, that that was raised
related to school board meetings, all these different things. He's
(30:41):
been almost totally absent on this Supreme Court justice protest
related issue. And a lot of people have started asking, hey,
given how many of these uh sprint Court justices also
live in Virginia, what's the situation with the Glen Yunkin.
What's the situation given the fact there's a Republican governor
there where. Well, Glenn Junkin is now having to speak
out and say, hey, Merrick Garland, how about you enforce
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federal law and protect the homes of Supreme Court justices.
Here is Virginia Governor Glenn Junkin, You're right here at
cut two telling Merrick Garland do your job. Well. The
statute is incredibly clear. It basically says if you are
parading or picketing in order to try to influence a judge,
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then it's punishable with up to a year in prison.
That sounds illegal to me, and I just ask the
Attorney General to enforce the law that's on the books.
If people want to demonstrate someplace off away from their home,
that's their prerogative. But again, this is not a final ruling,
it's a draft ruling. And clearly these demonstrations are being
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pulled together to try to influence the final outcome, and
that is prohibited based on federal statute. Just like at
the southern border, when Democrats have politics that conflicts with
the law, Clay, all of a sudden the laws nullified.
It doesn't matter anymore. Now I understand people will say, well,
he's the governor, but this is he's referring to the
federal statute which specifically goes after intimidation of a federal judge,
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in this case, a Supreme Court justice or justice. Is
This state statute, which we've also looked at here on
the show in Virginia, is more along the lines of
like a local nuisance ordinance where you can't protest outside
of someone's home. It doesn't have that judicial intimidation component.
So it's probably even if you enforced it, likely to
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be more more along the lines of, you know, a
fine maybe you know, maybe a bench take it to
appear before a judge, so you know, so you know, look,
I get it people want him to take because I've
seen some conservatives who are upset at Junkin over this one.
They wanted him to take a stronger line on this one.
But that doesn't mean we should forget that. The Attorney
General and the FBI could say, hey, knock this stuff off.
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We're we're gonna rest people for judicial intimidation that actually
has some teeth, that actually is a serious statute. And
here is where I would just come down with the
content neutral policies in place. What do we think Merrick
Garland would do if, let's say the Supreme Court had
upheld the vaccine mandate of Joe Biden, forcing eighty four
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million people who were employed to go get COVID shots,
which by the way, have minimal at best effectiveness for
many people out there. Okay, I'm waiting for my seventh
and then I know it's really going to kick in.
That's really where it's going to kick in. But Buck,
what do you think would happen if the liberal justices
were being picketed and people were standing outside of their
homes screaming at them in the way, this would be
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a continuation of January sixth. It would be on the
front page of every major newspaper, New York Times, Washington Post,
and there would be a demand on MSNBC and on
CNN that something be done to stop these protesters outside
of the homes of these Supreme Court justices that are
trying to intimidate these justices for their decision. And I
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feel like Merrick Garland might well act. I really do,
because it would allow him to continue. The right wing
is out of control in this country. We have to
use the Department of Justice to help to reign in
their behavior. But yet nothing happening right now at all
with the same thing for these conservative judges. How does
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how does the deep state? And how do Democrats use
the power that they have within the federal bureaucracy even
under a Republican president. By the way, when they have
political political equities, you could say at stake, remember what
they did the Special Council, of course, independent of operating
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largely independent of I mean, it is within technically the
control of the DOJ, but it's meant to be independent.
Remember what they did to a Roger Stone and in
his pajamas. They sent in a every laden style Rarego
was there to watch. I mean they well, they invited
CNN to essentially live stream the arrest of Roger Stone.
They sent a few dozen guys with long guns and
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flak vests in and they made sure it was on TV.
That is intimidation to show people, Yeah, you step out
a line, you do anything that we don't like and
that has a political impact, We'll send men with guns
to your home at four am to humiliate you and
to throw the cuffs on you. Instead of just what
would have happened if they called Roger Stones said look,
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you need to surrender yourself to the US Attorney's office
or you know, to an a USA tomorrow, he would
have been there. But they made an arrest to make
a point, and they did it in a way meant
to humiliate, degrade, and threaten. That's how the Democrats play
the game. Now on the other side of it, are
they going to enforce the Statute against clear judicial intimidation
with this issue at stake. No, And I'll tell you
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I think there are sub Democrats who were you know,
I think Chuck Schumer feels like if he doesn't sound
like a whacko on this one and far leftisting else,
they'll be pickting outside his home next. So well, he's
claiming that they already are. Right. Did you hear his
answer for why he didn't have a problem with it now?
To be fair, Dick Durbin, one of the top that
Democrats in the Senate, said no, they shouldn't be protesting
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outside of Supreme Court justice. But Schumer said, Buck, well,
they already do it three or four days a week
outside of my own home. And I'm thinking to myself,
who in the world is protesting Chuck Schumer? Maybe left wingers.
Apparently I'm late on the uptake here. Apparently they're already
there protesting Schumer. But that's the point, is that the
whacko left here is you. They're pulling all the levers
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they can on this issue all over the place. By
the way, you see, Peter Peter came at me yesterday
from my joke about the fake milk. What the number
of people who get upset about your milk taste. I
love it. It's really off the commies. They have no
sense of humor. That's why it's great. I love it.
I was catching up. I caught up with those ark.
I finished the whole show. Oh yeah, it's an interesting ending.
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I don't want to spoil it for anybody, but that's
a pretty good Netflix program. So yeah, that officially was
catching up on that. So I missed a little bit
of the news last night. I didn't see Peter coming
after you play Travis and Buck Sexton on the front
lines of trus
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast. Welcome and everybody to the Clay Travis
and Buck Sexton Show on this Thursday, May twelve. Appreciate
you hanging with us. A lot to discuss. We got
whistleblowers reveal the FBI labeled dozens of investigations into parents
with a threat tag created by the FBI's Counter Terrorism Division.
(00:25):
Dive into that in a little bit. Got a governor
young kid of Virginia saying that the Attorney General should
enforce the law when it comes to stopping these protests
that are meant to intimidate Supreme Court justices at their homes.
Law is pretty clear, and the Governor of Virginia agrees.
Some are saying that the Governor Virginia should use the
misdemeanor state law that is also at play here, but
(00:49):
the federal law has more teeth and more serious penalties
attached to it. We've also got a whole bunch of
fantastic guests joining us. Our friend Katie Pavlich in just
a or of minutes, your Bottom of the Hour town
Hall editor, Fox News contributor got a pace on moving
baby formula the federal government moving baby formula to the
(01:11):
southern border for illegal Migraines entering into the country. I
don't know if they're moving baby formula to anybody else
though right now, I haven't seen anything about that. We've
also got our friend Rob Smith, he's in Rock war Vett,
political analyst and a podcast host, joining us a second hour.
Kennedy of Kennedy on Fox Business. She'll be with us
in the third hour. So we got a lot to
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talk about, but I wanted to dive right now Clay
into It's it's fun to ask people when you're visiting
a place, as I'm going to Chicago, and I think
it's funny to for people to hear I mean, I've
been I've been to Thailand, I've been to Bangkok, I've
been to Buenos Ares, never been to Chicago, and this
is crazy. Like so I just finally woke up one
(01:52):
day I was like, I'm going to America's third largest city.
It's just I had never set foot in the place
I've always wanted to go. Actually have some friends from
New York that have moved there permanently and love it.
It's one of those rare places where New Yorkers sometimes
will say that, you know, they've found their their forever
home and h and they like it better some of
them sometimes. And I asked everybody, as you know, and
(02:14):
I got all these great recommendations. And now I've even
got the official social media accounts of different restaurants and things.
Time to go check it out. So it's fun to
have the reach that we do play on this show.
But there are also a whole lot of people who
are writing make sure you bring a bulletproof vest, make
sure you go armed, watch out, keep your head on
a swivel. And I'm sitting here, first of all, I'm
from New York City. Okay, it's not it's I'm not
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coming from h you know, eastern Montana where there hasn't
been a homicide in twenty years or something like this
is this is a I'm a guy who worked for
the NYPD. I'll be all right, but it is. It
is frustrating because the crime situation in the country right
now in major cities is bad. It has gotten a
lot worse, and we should look at why, and we
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should look at why going into this midterm election before
we dive into what do you what do you think
the primary reason is why do Why am I being
told that I need to go armed? I need to
go strapped into Chicago? Nine hundred shootings plus actually it's
a little over nine hundred shootings, over a hundred of
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those dead. It's not even halfway into the year. The
city only has two and a half million people. And
this is playing out in different ways in New York
and Phoenix, in la in Portland, and you know, name
a city in Atlantic, all over the place. Miami actually
does not have a huge increase in homicides the last
couple of years. Something else that I looked up recently, Clay,
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we got to fix this. So how does the country
fix this? What we need to do? It's it's a
good question. And I was looking reading the Wall Street
Journal yesterday, and for gun murders, we hit a high
that went all the way back to nineteen ninety four
in twenty twenty. And if you look at the graphics
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of annual deaths by homicide per hundred thousand people, it's
skyrocketed in twenty twenty, and the numbers have gone up
pretty substantially since twenty sixteen. What happened? BLM, all right?
I mean this is the truth, and it's it's an
inconvenient truth that a lot of left wingers don't want
(04:26):
to acknowledge that lots of people who consider themselves quote
unquote mainstream journalists that aren't allied with either position, Buck,
the data does not lie with the rise of the
BM movement. Thousands of otherwise would be still alive today.
Black people who were to a large extent being protected
(04:48):
by police officers who are white, Black, Asian and Hispanic
have been kept from doing their job. And the murder
rate and the shooting rate has skyrocketed. And you can't
argue against this anymore, right, What did they say for
a long time, Oh, it's because of the pandemic. But
when you actually looked at the data in twenty twenty,
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the COVID numbers were way down because people were staying
home in March, in April and May. These murder rates
skyrocketed starting with the George Floyd protests, and they have
continued to skyrocket all over the country, new records unfortunately
being set for murders in many different communities, lots of
cities where people are listening to us right now, Buck,
(05:30):
and they still try to argue a variety of different things.
I saw somebody the other day say, well, this is
one of the costs of inflation. It's like, one of
the cost of inflation is a rising murder rate. I
don't know that I buy into this at all. And
they're looking for any possible explanation other than the one
(05:52):
that is staring us right in the face, which is
when you demonize police officers, people pay with their lives
who would otherwise have been protected by those police officer.
And there's a part of me that just feels frustration.
And you know, we're Americans. We have pride in our
in our country and in our major cities, and it's
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it's sad to me when I'm when I'm going to
a major city. I know we've got Chicagoans. We're listening now,
And I understand some of this is people just being
a little provocative, but the Chicago does have a reputation
now because of all the shootings that are happening there,
and the Democrat who runs the city, the mayor, Lawry Lightfoot,
and the Democrats who run all these other cities are failing.
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And the corporations that spent millions and millions over one
hundred million dollars bending the knee and begging forgiveness of
the BLM movement should know that their money did It's
not only that they did not help. That the BLM
movement failed to help. The BLM movement made things worse,
and and that has to we have to have. I
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know they don't want to have this argument that I
wanted this debate, but Clay, instead of us just relying
on the narrative, I can turn learned to or rather
a battle of narratives. I can turn to this excellent
we like we gotta get Barry Weiss on the show's
fantastic work on her substack. She has a guest writer
she often does, Zach Kriegman. I criticized BLM. This is
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Zach Kriegman's piece. I criticized BLM. Then I was fired,
and as I was reading this, this is one of
the reasons I sent it to you. This guy Clay
is the Reuters chief data scientists. Now Reuters, it provides
the news feed that a lot of other news organizations
rely on as their news ticker. And so the narrative
(07:36):
power of Reuters and the Associated Press even exceeds what
you may have from some of the better known, you know,
the the other media entities out there, right, Yes, but
I was thinking about you because this guy, he's not
one of us in terms of his Ideologi's not a conservative.
But he's looking at the numbers and he's looking at
what BLM is saying is happening and what is really happening,
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and he crunched all the data, and I just to
to cut to the chase here. You've already found out
that in a use of force situation where there could
be any discussion about a police officer using lethal force,
white Americans were more likely to be shot than black
Americans in similar situations and circumstances. His data findings aligned
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almost exactly with Professor Fryer at Harvard. You've brought this
study up before, who also found that white Americans in
a use of force situation with police are more likely
to be shot. Now we could discuss why that is
in perception, Clay, what do you think happens when he
puts that finding on the internal chat board of Reuters.
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It's not acceptable because it conflicts with the narrative. Let's
start there, and there are going to be oftentimes there's
lots of people listening to us who would think about
this inside of their company. Even when you're sharing raw data,
even when you are just sharing what the data shows,
you are in danger of being called racist, right, and
(09:06):
most people are fearful of doing this. I've said it before, Bucket,
but bears repeating. Over half of all murders in America
are committed by black men. Black men represent around six
or seven percent of the United States population. So you
are talking. This is facts, It's not racism. Is direct
factual evidence. Over half of all murders are committed by
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around six or seven percent of the population, even smaller
than that, honestly, because most murders are committed by men.
And we sometimes have fun with this data. Right in
terms of sex because if you were to say, oh,
the police are overwhelmingly sexist because they only arrest men
by and large four violent crimes. Why aren't women being
(09:52):
arrested in proportion to their population, Well, people would say, well,
men are more violent, so police are having to interact
with them more. So you tried to make a sexism
argument there, people laugh at you. Why can't you look
at the raw data and say, police buy and large
are responding to violent criminals. A eighty eight year old
Hispanic woman is probably not going to end up in
(10:13):
a violent interaction with a police officer. A sixteen year
old white kid might, right, because age and sex factor
into a large degree in terms of the overall criminal population.
But you can't talk about that in some of these corporations.
So tell us what happened to this guy who looked
at the numbers shared the factual data inside of Reuters,
(10:35):
which is ostensibly, we should say, a neutral news organization.
It's not like we're talking about MSNBC, right, supposed to
just be justified. Yet, yes, Ruters is supposed to be
the gold standard of journalism, as journalism is meant to be.
And of course if you believe that, you know, I
got a bridge to sell you in the middle of nowhere.
But this is what happened. He got fed to the
(10:58):
diversity and inclusion HR machinery. And as I've said before,
you hunt for Red October, you've seen it right, great, yeah, yeah, yeah.
The first person that Sean Connery when he's Ramius takes
out is the political commissar. Because this was a real
practice in the Soviet Union. There were people, whether it
was on the factory floor or in the front line
(11:19):
of a military unit. Their only job was to monitor
the conversations and the political fealty of other people than
the Soviet Union. Essentially, you better say the Communist Party
is great and our leadership is amazing, or you're going
to end up in the Gulag straight up. In a
different context with different severity, but similar mentality, diversity and inclusion.
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HR departments are kind of like the commissars. They're there
to make sure you say what you're supposed to say,
or you get fired. This guy starts having the meetings.
They say it was provocative, They say what he posted
was antagonistic. He said, well, can I who says that?
Can I? Can I actually sit and have a conversation
with whomever inn HR says that. They say no. Someone
said this was the favorite comment that I saw, just
(12:02):
and how crazy it was. My unwillingness. This is one
of his colleagues who wrote on the the chat, Clay,
my unwillingness to engage with you doesn't signal the strength
of your argument. If someone says that KKK did lots
of good things for the community, prove me wrong. I'm
not obligated to do so end quote. So this is
how they handle it. He puts up data and they say,
(12:24):
we won't engage with your data because it would be
like saying that KKK did good things. The argument is
so stupid and so intellectually embarrassing. And you know what
they did after all this, they fired him six years
at Reuters, fired for sharing data in an internal chat thread.
No one says the data is wrong, no one questioned
(12:46):
the actual numbers not allowed. That's the country we're in now.
And by the way, he points out back to our
initial premise here on BLM clay that the narrative of
police are killing all these people with no cause except
racism has resulted in a lot of people, particularly are
disproportionately black people dying who would not have died BLM.
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I believe this. The BLM protests have likely led to
thousands of additional black lives. And again this data point
is important. Seventy five percent of all people's shot every year,
according to Washington Post database by police, are white, Asian
or Hispanic. How often do you hear about someone other
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than a black person shot by police? Almost never? Seventy
five percent of all police shootings white Asian or hispanic.
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We're about to be joined by Katie Pavlich to talk
about what has rapidly become one of the biggest stories
of supply chain crisis that has existed in a long
line of supply chain issues that have spread the length
and width and breadth of this country. If you listen, yesterday,
we opened up the phone lines and we were taking calls,
and we had calls literally from across the country. Savannah, Georgia,
(15:19):
Santa Barbara, California, some of you guys out there talking
about the difficulty that you are having finding baby formula.
And this story is continuing to grow because the White
House doesn't appear to have anyone in charge to be
managing this issue, and they haven't Buck talked about yesterday,
and I saw Senator Josh Holly from Missouri tweet about this.
(15:42):
They were quick to demand the Defense Authorization in order
to get ventilators in twenty twenty that ultimately we ended
up not using hardly any of them. In the grand
scheme of things, how is it that the government is
not mobilizing to ensure that there is enough baby formula?
Worse than that, as our next guest Katie Pavlich is
about to discuss with us Buck, they are simultaneously sending
(16:07):
massive amounts of baby formula to the border for illegal
immigrants crossing into our country to have for their children. Now,
I understand the difficulty of any baby that needs to
be fed, but if you had to provide for American
citizens or illegal immigrants, which one should be the focus
(16:29):
of an administration that was truly committed to serving the
American public. This is not a difficult proposition. And this
is growing into an increasingly massive political issue for Joe Biden,
dealing with a lot of bombs out there who may
well have voted for Joe Biden and now bear shelves
Biden has come for their own baby's formula. I still
(16:50):
have been asking, is there any food stuff that is
more essential to have access to than bright because, as
we've said, okay, there's Remember I remember during a pandemic
in New York, you would see what people really First
of all, you see what people thought was storable, right,
so drive pasta can goods couldn't get that anywhere. And
then you'd go in the meat shelves and it'd be
(17:11):
you know, like tongue meat, like weird desirable, the least
desirable food revealed. And and and I will say, in those
in those dark and frightening times, for a lot of people,
one of the funniest things was just to see, yeah,
that's right, commies, all the like soy tofu turkey stuff
was still there, like all the fake meat stuff. People
(17:31):
are going into a pandemic, and it's like, yeah, do
I want side ten or am I just gonna go hungry?
And sure enough the side ten was still on the shelves.
But baby formula, I don't I don't know how you
were if you if you're baby, And people say, oh,
but they're some babies need specific formula. They've got dietary issues.
Even I have Celiac disease. Babies can have celiac disease.
It can manifest very early. It's a big deal. So
(17:52):
we'll talk to Katie about how it's getting. The federal
government moving it to the border right now in some places,
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Travis and Buck Sexton Show. We've been telling you about
the baby formula shortage. Biden is holding an event today.
Press not going to be there, but they'll give a
read out to the press on the baby formula shortage.
He's going to be speaking with retailers and manufacturers. Apparently
that's from the White House. But there's something else going
(19:24):
on here. Biden administration shipping palettes of baby formula to
the border. That's the Townhall piece. It's up at clay
en Buck dot com right now from Katie Pavlich who
joins us right now from Foxnews. She's a Townhall dot
com columnists as well. Katie, great to have you on
the program. Hey, guys, thanks so much for having me
(19:45):
tell us about this one. Because we had a Katie,
we could have taken phone calls for the whole show
yesterday from just anxious and pretty furious parents who are
scrambling to get baby formula. You're a piece in town Hall.
Lets everybody know that. Well, there's no problem with baby
formula at the southern border. What's going on? Yeah, So
(20:08):
Republican Congressan cachemic had a God Patrol agent contact her,
sending her photos of stock shelves inside a Border patrol
processing facility with baby formula and told her that there
are palettes of baby formula that have been delivered to
these processing centers. So while shelves in the stores across
(20:29):
America are bear and parents are driving hours and hours
to find formula for their children, the federal government clearly
has some kind of contract to buy up the limited
supply and deliver it not to those stores, but to
processing centers on the southern border. So this of course
brings up two issues. The first is that the crisis
(20:50):
of the southern border is a man made Biden administration problem,
and as we dig further into the reasons behind this
baby formula shortage, it's clear that that's also another Biden
administration federal government problem, with the FDA shutting down a
major plant that then not reopening it, putting it, wrapping
it in a bunch of red tape. And now, of
(21:13):
course there's a limited supply, and much of that is
now going to solve the crisis on the border with
people coming across with their children, who of course still
need to be fed as well. So it's infuriating, it's
frustrating parents, are you know, wondering where the next case
(21:33):
of that is going to come for their family, and
there seems to be plenty available for people who broke
the lot to get into the country, but not enough
available for people who are citizens of the country. Kayu's
great work by you, and it also shines a light
on how little attention is being played paid to the
border that it might take a baby formula shortage and
therefore baby formula being shipped to the border for many
(21:54):
in the media actually cover anything there. As we are
talking right now, I just got and alert sent to
my phone from the Wall Street Journal and the headline
is baby formulas shortage could last four months. In other words,
this is not something that is going to leave anytime soon.
They are now limiting how much parents can buy inside
(22:17):
of stores when they actually find baby formula there, Katie,
we know from the pandemic. Unfortunately a lot of us
experienced this. When there is a fear of a shortage
in a product, it actually exacerbates the shortage because when
people find it, they buy more of it than they
other would otherwise would How does this get fixed for
so many moms and dads out there that are trying
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desperately to find baby formula all over the country. Well,
the FDA could work to get this major plant back
open after there was a recall. It's been months now.
They keep saying they want it to be safe for
our parents and babies. Obviously everybody wants that to be true,
but they keep throwing up these roadblocks to reopen this
plant that supplies the country with something like percent of
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the baby formula. Also, I would note that yesterday the
incoming Press Secretary Kareean Jean Pierre, whose first day starts tomorrow,
she's currently the deputy Press Secretary, who was asked specifically
about how the Biden administration is working to manage this
crisis as it gets worse. She gave you a paragraph
worth of statements about how they're working at twenty four
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to seven, how they're looking at all of the options,
the usual bureaucratic speak, and then when their follow up
question was asked about who exactly is handling the situation,
she literally laughed out loud and said that she did
not know we played that audio. That's a problem. So
they're claiming that they're dealing with this issue. I'm wondering
where Pee Buddha Judge is at this point, and you
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know that our government could do a lot when it
comes to commerce and figuring out how to look at
these contracts maybe that are going to the border and
maybe limit the number of baby formula palets that are
sent to there before they're sent to American stores across
the country. There's a couple of different options they have,
but we haven't heard much about it. We're speaking to
Katie Pavlich, editor at townhall dot com, Fox News contributor, Katie.
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I know you spent a lot of time down at
the border and have a lot of contacts in border patrol, immigrations,
and customs enforcement. What are you hearing from them about
what's going to go on here with the title forty
two revocation which supposed to happen here in a couple
of weeks. I know there's a judge that's involved at
this stage, but also given the number that just came
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out yesterday one hundred and seven thousand overdoses, mostly fentonel
and most of that vast majority of that's coming across
the border illegally, feels like there's renewed urgency to get
this right. What are your border patrol contacts and folks
telling you. Look, they're saying basically, border patrol has been
turned into a processing agency, and Immigration and Customs Enforcement
(24:54):
has been turned into a travel agency. The administration's response
to Title forty two getting take and off in the
estimates of eighteen thousand people a day crossing the border
is not to deter people from coming, to put up
barriers to entry. It's to simply open up new processing
centers so they can process these people through and then
give them a plane ticket to wherever they want to go.
(25:15):
That's the solution that they're they're offering here, and Border
patrol is terrible morale at this point. You know, their
job and their mission is to protect the homeland from
foreign threats from drug traffickers, as you mentioned, from human trackers,
from human smugglers. But this administration's policies have been to
simply process thousands of people through the system and to
(25:38):
let them go into the country. It's it's kind of
like having a roof, a leak in your roof and
putting out a bucket, and then as the bucket fills
up and the leak gets bigger, they just add a
couple of buckets. So that's what they're doing. They're going
to open up new processing centers. They're going to put
people in the front of the line for Title forty
two processing in terms of the court system, making the
backlog worse. So that's where we're headed as a result
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of this, Katie, when we talk about baby formulas shortages
and the border being a sieve and inflation at eight
point five or eight point three percent, you've got obviously
murder rate skyrocketing everywhere. You're really smart, You're good at
communication skills. If Joe Biden came to you and he said, Katie,
I need you to make a pitch for something that
(26:25):
I've done really well so far in my presidency nearly
eighteen months. Buck and I are fairly smart guys. We
can't even come up with a pitch for Joe Biden
as we get closer to the mid terms. I'm not
talking about the abortion angle. What has Joe Biden actually
done well? Can you even think? I mean, then it
truly is incomprehensible how bad he has been, even for
(26:46):
people who expected and I think Buck and I are
in this camp that you are too, that it wasn't
going to be good. But I don't think any of
us expected him to be this bad. Could you even
point to anything that hasn't been a disaster for him? Well, no,
I mean his pit just not to the entire country
as he promised, mister unification. His pitches to the far
(27:06):
left of his party. He's controlled by the far left
of his party. If you look at the move they
made yesterday to stop the leasing in Alaska and the
Gulf of Mexico, you know they think that that is
a pitch to the base, hoping that the base gets
out to admit in midterms, because midterm elections are base elections,
and that's who he's pitching to. That's who he wants
(27:27):
to talk to, that's who he's communicated to. So if
you see it from that perspective, you know, there are
a number of far left policies that he's implemented that
he would see as a success, that they would see
as a success. But for the rest of the country
it has been a complete and total disaster. It's like
you look at those foals that show you know, do
you think that Joe Biden is doing a good job,
(27:47):
and like thirty percent of the country still says yes,
And you wonder who those people are well, if that's
the far left of the base that thinks that these
things that he's doing are good for the country or
like a cleaning up of whatever they think that Trump did,
and that's who he's speaking to. He's not speaking to
the entire country. You've got Katie's piece linked up at
clainbuck dot com on plenty of formula at the border,
(28:08):
but not for all the rest of the American people. Katie,
thanks so much for being with us. Come back soon,
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Sexton show rolling through the Thursday edition of the program.
Buck about to head to Chicago. So if you you
see a great head of hair and accompanied by a
(29:58):
nice young woman, yes, probably is mister Sexton himself in
Chicago for the first time. And Buck, I want to
just mentioned this, by the way, as we as we
close out the first hour. When we come back at
the start of the second hour, I want to dive
into this ridiculous whistleblower situation that is going on where
parents were investigated for what they said at school boards
(30:21):
and more. But this is pretty crazy when you consider
how aggressive Buck Merrick Garland the ag was responding to
any minor criticism that ever existed, that that was raised
related to school board meetings, all these different things. He's
(30:41):
been almost totally absent on this Supreme Court justice protest
related issue. And a lot of people have started asking, hey,
given how many of these uh sprint Court justices also
live in Virginia, what's the situation with the Glen Yunkin.
What's the situation given the fact there's a Republican governor
there where. Well, Glenn Junkin is now having to speak
out and say, hey, Merrick Garland, how about you enforce
(31:04):
federal law and protect the homes of Supreme Court justices.
Here is Virginia Governor Glenn Junkin, You're right here at
cut two telling Merrick Garland do your job. Well. The
statute is incredibly clear. It basically says if you are
parading or picketing in order to try to influence a judge,
(31:27):
then it's punishable with up to a year in prison.
That sounds illegal to me, and I just ask the
Attorney General to enforce the law that's on the books.
If people want to demonstrate someplace off away from their home,
that's their prerogative. But again, this is not a final ruling,
it's a draft ruling. And clearly these demonstrations are being
(31:49):
pulled together to try to influence the final outcome, and
that is prohibited based on federal statute. Just like at
the southern border, when Democrats have politics that conflicts with
the law, Clay, all of a sudden the laws nullified.
It doesn't matter anymore. Now I understand people will say, well,
he's the governor, but this is he's referring to the
federal statute which specifically goes after intimidation of a federal judge,
(32:16):
in this case, a Supreme Court justice or justice. Is
This state statute, which we've also looked at here on
the show in Virginia, is more along the lines of
like a local nuisance ordinance where you can't protest outside
of someone's home. It doesn't have that judicial intimidation component.
So it's probably even if you enforced it, likely to
(32:38):
be more more along the lines of, you know, a
fine maybe you know, maybe a bench take it to
appear before a judge, so you know, so you know, look,
I get it people want him to take because I've
seen some conservatives who are upset at Junkin over this one.
They wanted him to take a stronger line on this one.
But that doesn't mean we should forget that. The Attorney
General and the FBI could say, hey, knock this stuff off.
(33:00):
We're we're gonna rest people for judicial intimidation that actually
has some teeth, that actually is a serious statute. And
here is where I would just come down with the
content neutral policies in place. What do we think Merrick
Garland would do if, let's say the Supreme Court had
upheld the vaccine mandate of Joe Biden, forcing eighty four
(33:21):
million people who were employed to go get COVID shots,
which by the way, have minimal at best effectiveness for
many people out there. Okay, I'm waiting for my seventh
and then I know it's really going to kick in.
That's really where it's going to kick in. But Buck,
what do you think would happen if the liberal justices
were being picketed and people were standing outside of their
homes screaming at them in the way, this would be
(33:44):
a continuation of January sixth. It would be on the
front page of every major newspaper, New York Times, Washington Post,
and there would be a demand on MSNBC and on
CNN that something be done to stop these protesters outside
of the homes of these Supreme Court justices that are
trying to intimidate these justices for their decision. And I
(34:04):
feel like Merrick Garland might well act. I really do,
because it would allow him to continue. The right wing
is out of control in this country. We have to
use the Department of Justice to help to reign in
their behavior. But yet nothing happening right now at all
with the same thing for these conservative judges. How does
(34:25):
how does the deep state? And how do Democrats use
the power that they have within the federal bureaucracy even
under a Republican president. By the way, when they have
political political equities, you could say at stake, remember what
they did the Special Council, of course, independent of operating
(34:45):
largely independent of I mean, it is within technically the
control of the DOJ, but it's meant to be independent.
Remember what they did to a Roger Stone and in
his pajamas. They sent in a every laden style Rarego
was there to watch. I mean they well, they invited
CNN to essentially live stream the arrest of Roger Stone.
They sent a few dozen guys with long guns and
(35:09):
flak vests in and they made sure it was on TV.
That is intimidation to show people, Yeah, you step out
a line, you do anything that we don't like and
that has a political impact, We'll send men with guns
to your home at four am to humiliate you and
to throw the cuffs on you. Instead of just what
would have happened if they called Roger Stones said look,
(35:30):
you need to surrender yourself to the US Attorney's office
or you know, to an a USA tomorrow, he would
have been there. But they made an arrest to make
a point, and they did it in a way meant
to humiliate, degrade, and threaten. That's how the Democrats play
the game. Now on the other side of it, are
they going to enforce the Statute against clear judicial intimidation
with this issue at stake. No, And I'll tell you
(35:53):
I think there are sub Democrats who were you know,
I think Chuck Schumer feels like if he doesn't sound
like a whacko on this one and far leftisting else,
they'll be pickting outside his home next. So well, he's
claiming that they already are. Right. Did you hear his
answer for why he didn't have a problem with it now?
To be fair, Dick Durbin, one of the top that
Democrats in the Senate, said no, they shouldn't be protesting
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outside of Supreme Court justice. But Schumer said, Buck, well,
they already do it three or four days a week
outside of my own home. And I'm thinking to myself,
who in the world is protesting Chuck Schumer? Maybe left wingers.
Apparently I'm late on the uptake here. Apparently they're already
there protesting Schumer. But that's the point, is that the
whacko left here is you. They're pulling all the levers
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they can on this issue all over the place. By
the way, you see, Peter Peter came at me yesterday
from my joke about the fake milk. What the number
of people who get upset about your milk taste. I
love it. It's really off the commies. They have no
sense of humor. That's why it's great. I love it.
I was catching up. I caught up with those ark.
I finished the whole show. Oh yeah, it's an interesting ending.
(36:54):
I don't want to spoil it for anybody, but that's
a pretty good Netflix program. So yeah, that officially was
catching up on that. So I missed a little bit
of the news last night. I didn't see Peter coming
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