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May 13, 2022 37 mins
Clay hosts solo while Buck visits Chicago for the first time. Musk pauses Twitter purchase as information arbitrage rages on Twitter. Clay says Musk may think Twitter price is inflated due to him wanting to buy Twitter, and "he could walk away, allow the stock price to collapse, and then potentially come back and try to make a play for that." Will Biden's ministry of truth call out its own disinformation? Nina Jankowicz wants verified Twitter users to be able to edit other people's tweets like Wikipedia. Jim Crow 2.0? Record turnout in Georgia primaries. FBI investigates moms and dads for testifying at school boards. CNN: Half of January covid deaths were double vaxxed. Clay takes a call on young people and social media.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show, Friday,
the thirteenth edition. We may have a little bit of
fun with that before all is said and done. As
an old school horror movie fan myself, I'm sure many
of you out there are as well, I hope that

(00:20):
this is not a terrifying day. However, for you guys,
as you get ready to roll into the weekend with
warm weather everywhere, this is going to feel much like
summer to a lot of you. My co host Buck
Sex that is, in Chicago, there was a massive kids
party in downtown Chicago, perhaps to welcome Buck to Chicago City.

(00:42):
He'd never been to before. So if you see him
walking around the streets there with his girlfriend, he is
likely going to be having a fantastic time. Weather seems
good there. I asked him if he was going to
go see a Chicago Cubs game at Wrigley Field, and
he said he hadn't even thought about it, and I
at least encouraged him to go check out rig Gleeville,
which is a phenomenal if you just want to go
have a few beers and enjoy the fact that baseball

(01:05):
is going on. But we've got a lot to get
into throughout the course of today's program, I want to
let you know where we're headed. Alex Barrenson is going
to be with us at one o'clock Eastern. One of
my writers who's been doing a fabulous job, Bobby Barak,
he writes an OutKick. Encourage you guys to be paying
attention to his work, and also if you just want

(01:26):
to bookmark OutKick dot com, it's one of the only
places that's saying in the world of sports and beyond.
And then Rand Paul Senator, who has provoked a great
deal of discussion over his refusal to sign on to
a forty billion dollar aid package for Ukraine, which, by
the way, I think we should be complimenting him for

(01:48):
because all he's asking for is for there to be
an inspector general connected to that forty billion dollars. And
given how much of a kleptocracy Ukraine has been and
our own government's failure oftentimes to track massive amounts of
money that we are spending, look at what happened with
the PPP program. But that will be an interesting discussion

(02:11):
with him. All of that and more coming your direction,
but I wanted to start with what has become readily apparent,
the information arbitrage war that is going on every single
day on Twitter, and there are a couple of breaking
news stories. Woke up this morning to see that Elon
Musk is potentially not going to buy Twitter. Although he

(02:34):
says he remains committed to the purchase of the company,
he is concerned about how many bots in other words,
not real accounts there are on Twitter, and he has
therefore put a pause on his potential purchase of Twitter. Now.
To be fair, he is saying that he still intends
to purchase Twitter, but the stock as we are speaking

(02:57):
right now has dropped nearly nine percent. It's trading at
forty one dollars and change. The company was supposed to
be sold for fifty four twenty, so there's a massive
discount going on right now. Now. Some of you out
there are like, Okay, what could be going on here?
I think what maybe at play here is Elon Musk

(03:18):
lowering his potential purchase price for Twitter because he's aware
that with the massive stock market sell off, we have
seen trillions of dollars in value erased almost to the
point where Joe Biden's entire tenure seventeen months now, the
stock market is not far from going negative over that

(03:39):
seventeen month period, and so as a result, tech company
stocks have collapsed. And I happen to think that Elon
Musk may be thinking to himself, fifty four dollars and
twenty cents a share is way too much to be paying,
when if I weren't buying this company, Twitter might be
twenty five dollars a share, So he could walk away,

(04:01):
allow the stock price to collapse, and then potentially come
back and try to make a play for that. But
this is important, and it is such a win for
sane people in an insane world if Elon Musk buys Twitter,
because right now the White House is still using Twitter

(04:22):
to spread direct wise while accusing people like you and
me and many of your coworkers who start to raise
questions about the Biden administration of spreading disinformation. This morning,
sorry this was yesterday afternoon. The White House tweeted out
when President Biden took office, millions were unemployed and there

(04:44):
was no vaccine available. That first sentence is a direct lie.
In fact, Joe Biden got his COVID shot in December
of twenty twenty, a full month before he took the
oath of office. So that sentence from the White House,
which has been lecturing all of us about the perils
of disinformation, is a lie. And then the next sentence,

(05:08):
in the last fifteen months, the economy has created eight
point three million jobs and the unemployment rate stands at
three point six percent, the fastest decline in unemployment to
start a president's term ever recorded. This is direct disinformation.
This is direct a direct lack of truth as well.

(05:30):
And so what's at stake here? What is at play?
The White House is asking for the power to determine
what is truth and false in social media, in modern
media today, while using those same platforms to directly spread
lies and misinformation themselves. Now this is important because there's

(05:51):
going to be a lot of discussion about this as
we get closer to the midterms. The Biden administration is
going to claim that they have created all these millions
of jobs and that they have created a strong economy.
We know that's not true because we're all struggling every
single day with nearly double digit inflation. But when they
claim that they have created as they did in this tweet,

(06:13):
eight point three million new jobs, and it's the fastest
decline in unemployment to start a president's term ever recorded.
What you need to understand is this, we still have
not regained all of the jobs that existed in March
of twenty twenty, when we had fifteen days to slow
the spread. We still have not regained. We're still, i believe,

(06:36):
over a million jobs behind. We had the greatest economy
in the history of the United States in February of
twenty twenty, White, Black, Asian, Hispanic, everybody's overall wages were growing,
We had hit an unbelievable fifty plus year low in
the unemployment rate, and we were just starting to hit

(06:57):
full steam ahead thanks to all of the economic policies
that Donald Trump and the Republican Party put in place
to unlock the full growth of our economic potential. And
then what happened COVID. COVID happens. We make the disastrous
decision to shut down our economy and start to send
trillions of dollars into the marketplace. That is only going

(07:22):
to be exacerbated when Joe Biden becomes president in twenty
twenty one and immediately adds another one point nine trillion
in COVID spending that was unnecessary, and immediately adds another
over one trillion dollars in the infrastructure bill, which you'll
remember Buck and I saying also further created the apparatus
here for nearly double digit inflation. And recall that we

(07:45):
also were absolutely poised for another five plus trillion dollars
in spending as a part of the Build Back Better Bill.
If that had ended up happening, then we would be
well into double digit inflation fifteen twenty percent. Who knows
where the inflation rate might be if Joe Biden had

(08:05):
gotten everything you wanted. So I start here talking with
you about the information wars that are taking place every
single day, and you guys listening know what I'm talking about.
Whether or not you feel comfortable being able to share
your opinion on Facebook or Twitter or Instagram. There are
people who want to be able to investigate you, to

(08:26):
pay attention to what you are saying in terms of
whether they believe it's true or false. And this idiot
ministry of truth individual Nina Jankowitz, who has been hired
by the Biden administration to be their Czar of misinformation.
She now is saying, this is crazy that she wants

(08:46):
people to be able to edit your own tweets and
change what is said in those tweets if they decide
that it is misinformation. Listen to this incredibly eatic idea.
So verified people can essentially start to edit Twitter the
same sort of way that Wikipedia is, so they can

(09:08):
add context to certain tweets. So, just as an easy example,
not from any political standpoint, if President Trump were still
on Twitter and tweeted a claim about voter fraud, someone
could add context from one of the sixty lawsuits that
went through the court, or something that an election official

(09:30):
in one of the states said, perhaps your own secretary
of State and his news conference is something like that,
adding context so that people have a fuller picture rather
than just an individual claim on it a tweet. This
is madness. First of all, if you disagree with something

(09:50):
that people tweet, you can dispute it, you can argue
with it on Facebook, you can respond to a comment
that you disagree with already and further contextualize what is
being said. But what's going on here is we got
a rigged system, and Elon Musk buying Twitter is a
big part of ending that rig game, because guess what

(10:12):
hasn't happened at all. It's not uncommon when I share
a COVID detail, a COVID fact, that there's an appended
statement underneath it about whether or not they consider it
to be true or false. The Biden White House Live yesterday,
this is a direct lie. When President Biden took off

(10:33):
as millions were unemployed and there was no vaccine available.
Twitter has not done anything to label that tweet. There's
no further context provided for this claim that Joe Biden
has been the most successful economic president ever. That's what
he's claiming. Yet every single one of you out there
that is seeing shortages in baby formula, dealing with the

(10:56):
highest gas prices in United States history, dealing with the
highest inflation in forty plus years, every single one of
you knows this is a lie. There is no response
at all providing further context on these lies. And here

(11:16):
direct quote. Biden receives the first dose of coronavirus vaccine publicly.
He got it on December twenty first, twenty twenty. At
the time that he took office, the Trump administration was
administering one million COVID shots a day over a million
COVID shot today, and for the first several months of

(11:38):
the Biden White House, they didn't accelerate that rate very
substantially at all. They were implementing the existing policies and
procedures that had already been put in place by the
Trump White House. This is a lie. It's important to
call out lies, particularly when the people who are lying
to you are claiming that they are the ones telling

(12:01):
the truth. That is a straight up nineteen eighty four
George orwell, big government authoritarian move from the Biden White House.
Nothing is being said at all. So that is the
context on what's going on right now with Twitter, the
battle for truth and for fairness, content neutral policies that
should hopefully be put in place in the event that
Elon Musk is able to complete this acquisition of Twitter.

(12:25):
Now we got a lot to discuss. I will open
up the phone lines, take some of your calls today here,
given the fact that it is Friday, and we try
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(13:52):
I wanted to share some of this data because I
thought it was significant. Speaking of lies, do you remember
all of the tension that Joe Biden and the Democrat
Party put on the idea that there was going to
be Jim Crow two point zero in the state of Georgia.
Stacy Abraham's running for governor right now, all of the

(14:14):
attention that they rained down on Georgia over this election
integrity bill that was passed, and it got so bad.
I know there's a lot of you still fired up
about this. That they pulled the All Star game Major
League Baseball did out of Atlanta. They were going to
honor Hank Aaron. Now the Braves ended up getting the

(14:36):
last laugh because they won the World Series and they
got to have three World Series games instead. But this
was absolutely indefensible to anyone who actually read the bill
or looked at Georgia's law compared to other places. Well,
right now, we've got a primary that is coming up

(14:59):
soon in Georgia, May the twenty fourth, I believe, about
eleven days from now, and Gabriel Sterling has been sharing
the data on what is going on in terms of voting,
and not surprisingly, the same media that told you how
racist and unacceptable. This Georgia bill was how it represented

(15:22):
Jim Crow two point zero. Nobody's talking about the fact
that records are being set in terms of the number
of people voting, and the number here this was yesterday
that Gabriel Sterling shared were at two hundred and twenty
three percent of the turnout for two eighteen, the last

(15:45):
mid term election. Nearly three hundred thousand voters had cast
ballots on the primary election, with way more Republicans coming
out to vote than Democrats so far and almost no
ballots are being rejected. And just five minutes ago, Gabriel

(16:05):
Sterling tweeted out, we're on pace for a record day
of early voting in Georgia again SB two O two,
the Election Integrity Act is law, and we're continuing to
see record votes cast. These are simple facts. Over three
hundred and thirty thousand people in fact, one hundred and

(16:27):
eighty thousand voting in the Republican primary, one hundred and
twenty thousand voting in the Democrat primary, record numbers of
legal votes coming in in the state of Georgia. We
were all told this was impossible. Joe Biden went to
Georgia and told everyone that This was Jim Crow two

(16:49):
point zero. He said, there was a direct attempt to
keep people from being able to cast their ballots in Georgia.
This is all a lie. They lied to you. Jim
Crow two point zero was complete and total fiction. And
what should happen is everybody who bought into this lie,

(17:11):
in particular Major League Baseball, they should apologize to every
baseball fan, to the entire state of Georgia, and they
should bring the All Star Game back to Atlanta to
make up for the fact that they lied to you,
and that many big corporations got full on woke and
they listened to those lies and they bought into them.

(17:34):
Wasn't just Major League Baseball. By the way, Delta Airlines
did it, one of the biggest employers in the state
of Georgia. Totally unacceptable. Again, a lie. Has anybody called
this misinformation? Has anybody out there been willing to call
out Joe Biden and the Democrat Party for all the

(17:54):
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Sexton Show. I hope all of you are having a
fantastic Friday. We are rolling through the program. I want

(19:02):
to let you know, by the way, we got guests
coming up the next couple hours. Alex Berenson is going
to be with us at the top of the hour.
Twitter band Alex Berenson for the latest on COVID as
the Biden administration is now arguing that a mid term
variant may emerge just in time for potentially more arguments
that they could make for changes in the way that

(19:22):
people are voting. You just heard me say that there,
Jim Crow two point zero argument has fallen flat on
its face based on the numbers that are coming out
of the state of Georgia in the twenty twenty two midterms,
and they are up massively compared to the people who
were voting in the twenty eighteen midterms. So just keep
that in mind. I'm going to be joined by Bobby Barak,

(19:43):
who is one of the writers at OutKick, the site
that I sold the Fox but continue to run that
I believe you guys will really enjoy. And then Ran
Paul Senator from Kentucky is going to join us in
the third hour of the program to talk about his
decision to withhold his vote to allow forty billion dollars
to be spent in Ukraine. But I want to make

(20:03):
sure we don't miss this story because I don't think
we've talked about it so far this week. I know
Buck and I talked about it off air, and by
the way, Buck is in Chicago today, So if you
are in the Windy City and you are walking around
and you think to yourself, man, that does appear to
be Buck Sexton. It is probably going to be him,
so you can say hi to him. So there is

(20:24):
a great deal of disinformation that is being spread right
now by Democrats. We started off the show today talking
about the White House Twitter account, even claiming that there
were no COVID shots to be given when Joe Biden
came into office and trying to take credit frankly for
the Donald Trump economy created by Republicans that we still

(20:45):
have not gotten back to. And I think this is
a significant fact that deserves to be mentioned all the time.
We still have not returned everyone to work that was
working in February and March of twenty twenty. We haven't
gained that employment level. Yet Democrats are trying to argue, well,
we have created all these new jobs. They're not new jobs.

(21:06):
They are oftentimes the jobs that people were not allowed
to do because we tried to create this ridiculous essential
and non essential business categories, and because we decided to
put our economy into deep freeze, which we're now reaping.
Unfortunately the punishments for now this also has tied in
with people like me. The most important job that I

(21:28):
have is you guys know, I'm a dad. I've got
a fourteen year old, I've got an eleven year old,
and I've got a seven year old, and my two
youngest boys go to public school in Williamson County, which
is right outside of Nashville in Tennessee. Back in August,
some of you will remember I went and spoke at
my local school board, as I encouraged a lot of

(21:50):
moms and dads out there to do, and as lots
of you did, to argue against kids having to wear masks,
because there is absolutely no benefit fit whatsoever to kids
wearing masks, none at all in school. The fact that
any kid is still having to wear a mask is frankly,

(22:11):
it should be a criminal failure on our part. The
biggest public policy failure of any of our lives is
our response to COVID, particularly as it pertains to kids.
So you'll remember that Democrats got really angry because suddenly
parents were showing up at school boards and they were
holding their school boards accountable, and as a result, the

(22:35):
Department of Justice decided that they were going to label
some of these parents domestic terrorists and that they were
going to conduct investigations. And then our good friend, Congressman
Jim Jordan in Ohio got wind of this, and he
decided that he was going to ensure that Attorney General

(22:58):
Merrick Garland answer for these letters that have been put
out from the Department of Justice calling American parents domestic terrorists.
And we have a couple of flashback audio bites here
from that conversation, and then I'm going to update you
with the new information that we have. But first listen
to Merrick Garland testifying in front of Congressman Jim Jordan

(23:19):
and other House Republicans who were holding him accountable for
that domestic terrorist allegation. I can't imagine any circumstance in
which the Patriot Act would be used in the circumstances
of parents complaining about their children. Nor can I imagine
the circumstance where they would be labeled as domestic terrorism. Okay,

(23:40):
that was one statement. Okay, this is significant because there
now are whistleblowers inside of the FBI that have gone
back to Congressman Jordan and have said that we now
have smoking gun evidence that the FBI has labeled dozens
of investigation into parents with a threat tag created by

(24:03):
the Counter Terrorism Division. Okay, I can't believe this hasn't
gotten more attention. We are investigating our FBI is parents
for things that they said at school board meetings the
FBI entered. This is directly from the letter that was
released by Jim Jordan and his crew. In one investigation

(24:26):
the FBI, the FBI investigated a mom for allegedly telling
a local school board we are coming for you, meaning
we're going to move you, remove you from office. The
complaint came into the FBI through a snitch line alleged

(24:48):
the mom was a threat because she belonged This is
I'm reading directly from the letter to a right wing
mom's group known as Moms for Liberty and also was
a threat because quote, she is a gun owner. The
FBI investigated a mom for telling a school board member

(25:11):
We're coming for you on the basis that she was
a right wing moms group member, Moms for Liberty. By
the way, a lot of Moms for Liberty out there
listening to us right now all over the country, and
thank you for standing up for your kids and fighting
for them in the school board. And by the way,
I don't mean literally fighting. When you tell a politician

(25:34):
we're coming for you, you're letting them know that you
are going to be providing opposition to their idiotic choices. Okay,
So the FBI interviewed the mom. She told them she
was upset about the school boards mask mandates, and her
statement was a warning that they would seek to replace

(25:54):
the school board with new members. A mom was investing
aided by the FBI on the grounds that she was
a member of Moms for Liberty, that she owned a gun,
and that she didn't believe that her kid or kids
and by the way, she was right, should have to

(26:15):
wear masks in school. This happened the Department of Justice
had the FBI investigate a mom. On another investigation, a
dad was opposed to mask mandates. A complaint said that
the dad quote fit the profile of an insurrectionist because
he rails against the government and has a lot of

(26:37):
guns and threatens to use them. When the FBI interviewed
this dad, he said that sorry. They interviewed the complainer,
They said they contacted the FBI because the Justice Department
had a website to submit tips to the FBI anytime
there is concerning behavior a dad investigated. The FBI also

(27:04):
opened an investigation over allegations that Republicans quote, incited violence
by expressing public displeasure with school district vaccine mandates. These
are actual investigations. Again, I am reading from a letter
that was sent to Merrick Garland that says you basically

(27:27):
have lied when you said on October four, twenty twenty one,
that counter terrorism tools tools were not going to be
used against parents who spoke out at school board meetings.
And this letter, which was written by the Committee on
the Judiciary from the House of Representatives, from Jim Jordan,
by the way, he's going to come on and talk

(27:47):
about this letter specifically with us next week, directly proves
that Merrick Garland was lying to us, and that if
you are a dad or mom, I mean, heck, they
may have a file on me because I spoke out
and I was angry at my local school board for
requiring my kids to wear masks. There may be a
Clay Travis file. There's a lot of moms and dads

(28:09):
out there listening right now who may have also been
investigated by the FBI. Think about where we are in
the Biden administration, that they are investigating parents who had
the gall to speak out against masks inside of schools,
which all of the evidence now proves was essentially worthless.
It's absolutely absurd. We'll continue to break all this down.

(28:32):
But thanks to a Congressman Jim Jordan and his crew
for getting that letter out, and thanks to the whistleblowers
inside the FBI who are letting us know about actual
investigations that were opened into moms and dads for their
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(30:46):
hope all of you are having a fantastic Friday. We're
gonna be joined by the way top of the next hour.
Alex Berenson, who wrote a great book and has got
a fantastic substack basically sharing all the data and you
know what I saw a data point that is not
getting very much attention, but CNN itself actually shared it.

(31:07):
Do you know that almost fifty percent of the people
who died with COVID in January were double vaxed. CNN
had a huge article that they had written basically saying
everybody has to go out and get a booster. But
for a long time, the argument was, oh, you know. Initially,
Joe Biden told us, and continuing our misinformation theme here,

(31:31):
he said, if you get the COVID shot wasn't very
long ago, you will neither get nor spread COVID ever anymore.
CDC head, Rachelle will Lyinski, everybody, doctor Fauci, they all
spread that. They all said this is the story with
the COVID shot. And then a few months later they
suddenly came out and they said, well, if you get

(31:54):
the COVID shot, then you can still get and spread COVID,
but the odds are that you're not going to have
any kind of severe reaction. In fact, Joe Biden in
July of last year specifically said, if you get the
COVID shot, you're not going to die of COVID. Well,
now CNN is coming out and saying, well, the data

(32:16):
now in January actually shows that nearly fifty percent of
the people that were dying with COVID had been double vaccinated.
And so now they're saying you need to get a
booster shot in order to be protected. But the booster
shot waynes too, which is why they're now saying you

(32:37):
need a fifth shot if you're over fifty years old now.
And so we're going to talk about that with Alex
Barrenson because I'm genuinely curious what the latest data is
showing him as it pertains to these COVID shots and
the overall rates of COVID, as the Biden White House
has now come out and said, hey, we may go

(32:59):
one hundred million more cases of COVID could happen this
fall and winter. Kind of what I'm calling the mid
term variant, because it could give Democrats an opportunity to
argue that they need the changed voting bills in all
the different states so that they can rig another election
to avoid what might otherwise be a red tide that

(33:21):
is going to sweep over them. We got open phone
lines we typically do on Friday. We're gonna have some
fun with that is certainly in the third hour, but
I'll take a couple of your calls here right now.
I believe we have Steven in Allentown, Pennsylvania. You had
a question for me about the overall impact of social media.
We started the show also talking about the latest drama

(33:43):
surrounding Elon Musk's potential purchase of Twitter. What have you
got for me, Steven? Appreciate you calling in. I thought
Stephen was there. Potentially he is not. We'll see if
he pops up. Okay, we got him. Thanks Steven, What
you got for us? I have a question for you.
I'm a little bit older than you are, and but

(34:06):
I have nephews and I'm just curious as far as
a social media goes, how do you how would you
rate people making like important length decisions based on opinions
they receive off social media. I think thanks for the call.

(34:28):
I understand there's a generational divide in some ways on
social media, and a lot of times I think younger
people who are listening to us right now are probably
thinking to themselves. I don't know why I ever paid
as much attention, or do pay as much attention to
what's going on on Instagram, to what's going on on
Twitter to what's going on on Facebook. I think a
huge percentage of people make decisions based on social media,

(34:50):
and I think it's not a surprise that we constantly
see whatever the new trendy topic is surging and becoming
a major issue. For instance, early days of COVID, putting
yourself in a COVID mask was the king of virtue. Signally,
that was the thing that you could do to prove

(35:12):
how seriously you were taking COVID compared to everybody else.
What happened just a couple of months ago, everybody started
bumping out the masks and replacing it with the Ukraine flag. Initially,
I was of the opinion that we were going to
have a robust and uninhibited, massive marketplace of ideas thanks
to social media, and in the early days we kind

(35:34):
of did. Unfortunately, what has ended up happening is social
media has become a proxy for one mob after another
to trend and become wildly popular without any real substance
behind it. So, look, there may be people out there
right now who are listening, who are teenagers listening on

(35:56):
a podcast. I would say spend less time worried about
what people are saying on social media. My advice in
general is why should you care one iota what someone
you doesn't don't know think? So, I mean, I care
really about the opinion of four people in my life,
my wife and my three kids. They're in my house

(36:19):
all day. I'm responsible for helping to make sure that
they grow up as kids and also that I provide
for them, and so I care deeply what they think.
But if you don't live in my house, might care
for what you think of me? Declines precipitously. I think
if everybody did, that becomes a lot better country, because

(36:40):
you're all standing on your individual selves as opposed to
worrying about what people you never know are thinking about
you on a day to day basis. Of course, that
doesn't directly impact being able to say what you think
every single day, which we do. Sleeve Travis and Buck
Sexton on the front lines of truth.

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