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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast. Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show.
Appreciate all of you hanging out with us as we
roll through the Tuesday edition of the program. I want
to give credit to a lot of you out in
Oregon who have been reaching out to the show. We
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appreciate everybody listening in Portland and you've been saying, Clay
and Buck, you need to be paying attention to what's
going on in the Oregon governor's race. It's not getting
a lot of attention right now, but Christine Drayson is
putting together an incredible an incredible campaign, and people are
telling us that you are going to end up winning
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this race. And we bring in now the woman who
is trying to turn the state of Oregon red, and Christina,
I just want you to run us through what you're
hearing from people all over the state of Oregon and
how much the disaster that Island is feeding into so
much of the momentum that you are picking up on
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to the point where a lot of people that I
trust believe you're going to be the next governor of Oregon.
So first, thank you so much for having me on today.
I am super excited to be on this show. I'm
a big fan, so this is an exciting moment for me.
Let's just let's just get that out there. Thank you.
You're going to and you have great taste in radio.
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All of those things and one hand in hand basically
is what we're talking about right now. No Oregonians across
our state are feeling what um you know, whether or
not you're in Portland or Pendleton, you know, Eugene or
Evil Point. Folks across Oregon want change right now because
we have had Democrats in charge for forty years in
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the governor's office, but ten years of both branches of
government as far as the legislature and the governor's office
are concerned, which has led to a precipitous decade of
decline where now we have homelessness, we have rampant drug use,
we have crime that skyrocketed, we have our schools that
are failing. All of these basic foundational elements of what
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makes a strong state and frankly leads to strong families
and strong communities has just fallen off the cliff here
in Oregon, and folks here want change they're not talking
about partisan politics, they're not talking about Republican versus Democrat.
They're talking about balance, accountability, and just a better quality
of life. I mean, Biden's inflation is just obliterating everybody
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across the nation, but here in Oregon. It's especially shocking
because Democrats in the legislature here have raised three billion
dollars of taxes in just a six month period a
few years back, and all of that gets pushed down
to Oregonians, and now we've got this inflation. They're feeling
in their pocketbooks, they're feeling it in their businesses, they're
feeling it in their schools. Everywhere you look, Oregonians are saying, Nope,
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this thing an't working no more. We need change. Christine,
the decisions that have been made, I mean, I'm curious
if you could just explain to us what has been
done there that has brought the state of Oregment, more
specifically Portland and the surrounding area to its current state.
I've only been in Portland once. It was in two
thousand and ten, and I remember thinking what a cool,
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beautiful city it was, with great food. But every year
since then, I've just been reading more and more about
the deterioration. It became really a kind of the capital
of Antifa on the West Coast, and the lawlessness and
the anarchy and the homelessness and the drugs. They were
essentially camping out outside of an ice facility, if I remember,
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immigrations and customs enforcement and harassing federal immigration officials and
nobody was doing anything about it. What were the decisions
that were made, Like why did the city of Portland
and then more broadly, the state of Oregon deteriorates so
rapidly over the last ten years. We had leadership in
Portland that made the decision to defund police. We were
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ground zero for treating police like criminals and are criminals
like victims. That's Oregon. That's really hard. Left progressive Democrats
that that have not have not taken Oregonians any consideration
when they've been pushing a political agenda. We all feel it. So,
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you know, two hundred and seven percent increase in homicides
happens when you abandon the intervention teams that were in
there in those communities making sure that gun violence wasn't happening.
And when sort did you say a two h two
hundred and seven percent increase in homicide years in two
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years in the city of Portland, and you saw the
beautiful city that Portland has been for years and years
and years and years. That is organ is a gem.
Organ is brilliant and gorgeous and welcoming. And we have resilient, strong, innovative,
community oriented, you know, folks that live here. And then
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you've got Portland where Portlanders have just basically been abandoned
by their own leadership. And the Democrats that I'm running
against have doubled down on that same agenda. You know,
they have pushed to reduce funding for cops. The budgets
that they've passed in Salem haven't fully fund a police.
The efforts that they've taken in Salem have abandoned our
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ability to stand with and protect victims. That's what I'm
running against right now, are folks that actually are continuing
to pursue policies that have already proven to hurt communities
and families across our state. We're talking to Christine Draysen,
she is running for governor of Oregon. Appreciate any of
you listening on our Portland Oregan affiliate k ex AM
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who know exactly of which you are speaking, You're also
a mom of three, and last year, certainly we saw
Glenn Young can flip the state of Virginia to a
large extent based on moms who were angry. I've got
married to a mom of three. Here in my house,
I hear from a lot of these moms who have
been furious about what's going on in the schools, about
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the fact that schools were closed. I know in Oregon
a lot of people with public school kids have been
furious over the way that the governor they're handled COVID
and keeping schools open. What are you hearing from moms
and also dads out there about what they feel associated
with schools and the way that their kids are being
treated there. Yeah, families, parents are absolutely livid in Oregon,
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and they should be. Their students. Their kids were abandoned
for a political agenda that put a higher value on
sort of union negotiations than the needs of our students.
And instead of doubling down and funding interventions in the
classroom to help all students get back up to standards
here in Oregon, they just abandoned the standards. They reduced
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graduation requirements. They actually have shifted curriculum ins at our
schools to begin to add all these layers that are
really really politically driven. Just to give you an example,
if you've got a kindergartener here in Oregon, that student,
some of the curriculum requirements are going to have that
student as early as kindergarten thinking about what is their
identity and how do they pursue justice? And what they
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really need is to know how to wait, mind and
hold on to a pencil and have some big motor skills. Amen. Yes,
you know we're speaking of Christine Drays and everybody. She's
running for governor of Oregon and it is a very
close raised Christine, which one of them. We want to
really highlight this because you are in it. This is
not some you know down by twenty or thirty points
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and it's just trying to make some kind of a
statement you could be the next governor of Oregon. We've
got a lot of people listening. As Clay mentioned, k
e XAM a fantastic station with a big audience, big reach,
but many other stations throughout the state of Oregon too.
To the people listening, what can they do to help
you and how do they help bring this thing home
so that there's some sanity in your state of Oregon.
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Once again. We have to have Oregonians choose to win.
They have to be the ones to choose the new
direction for our state. I mean, we are a toss
up race because Oregonians have been standing up and pushing
back and demanding change. I need every Oregonian out there
that's looking for change. It doesn't look more the same,
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that doesn't want another decade of decline to vote. And
you know, you can find more information on my race
for ways to volunteer and donate and show up on
our days that we're knocking on doors and making calls,
which is every day at Christine for organ dot com.
But I need Oregonians to believe in change. You know,
it's been I know, you know, we know this been
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forty years almost since Oregan's had a Republican governor. You
know the last time we had a Republican governor, top
Gun it live in the theaters, the original, And I
say all the time, now it's time for a sequel, right,
And that really is where we're at in Oregon. Is
it's time time to lead our state in a new directions.
And I need Oregonians to vote. I need them to
show up and I need them to stand with me
and demand change. Christine. I mean, that's a testament to
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how much of a case you've already made. I mean,
that's crazy to think it's been nineteen eighty six since
Oregon had a Republican governor. But the Cook Political Report
has moved this race into the toss up category. You
are legitimately a candidate, and we talk a lot on
this show about saying versus insane. You are trying to appeal,
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regardless of how people have voted in the past, to
the same people of Oregon to acknowledge that it's time
for change. Yeah, they're just asking for some common sense
and I'm committed to bringing it. And we haven't seen
that for far too long in our state. You know,
for folks that weren't living through it with us. We
had some of the longest lockdowns across the nation were
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our schools were set down longer than California schools. And
you know, when you talk about outraged parents and parents
that are just demanding better, that's because Organs leaders have
been far too political for far too long, and Oregonians
are saying we just want common sense. It didn't the
lunatic governor Kate Brown tell people to to um snitch
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on anybody who had more than four or six people
in their home or something like that. Wasn't there a
period there where private homes in Oregon actually had some
kind of a cap oh Thanksgiving that was that was
the Thanksgiving tobaccle. She said, Nope, this isn't even a joke,
right you feel like this should there should be a
punchline coming at you right now. But she actually she
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actually called on Oregonians to limit their Thanksgiving get togethers
among family members to five or less I believe was
the number there. You go five or less more than
family people I know, and then to call to call
people just in case you saw more cards out front
in front of your neighbor's houses. That is absolutely the
governor of Oregon wanted people to snitch on families that
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got together with more than five people. The whole thing
so stupid, arbitraryan insane. I just Christine, anything we can
do to help. Certainly, if you are listening to us
in Oregon, this would be a monumental message to send
to have a Republican in the Governor's office in Oregon. Again.
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We know you would do an incredible job, Christine, and
let us know how we can help coming down the
next forty nine days. Hey, thank you so much. It's
been great to talk to you today. Christine for Oregon
dot Com. Folks is her website. Go check it out.
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think you will enjoy it. So I had not seen
this until Buck sent me this story and or discussed
it with me, and I tracked it down. I don't
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read a lot of The Atlantic. It's probably an indictment
of me. I think I get enough of the Washington
Post in the New York Times without needing to subscribe
to The Atlantic. But someone named Maggie Mertons wrote a
story that is one of the dumbest stories I've ever
seen in the world of athletics and the coming denial
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of biologies stuff. Yeah. Look, I've had a lot of
dumb opinions over the years in the world of sports,
as many of you well know, and may continue to
have a lot of dumb opinions on a variety of
different things. I've never had an opinion this dumb. The
argument is separating sports by sex doesn't make sense. That's
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the headline of the Atlantic article. Those school sports are
typically sex segregated. A new generation of kids isn't to
content to compete within traditional structures. This is, let me
be clear, the natural evolution of the argument that men
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can compete against women. The whole Leah Sam madness that
you had a dude who decided to become a woman
and then became the greatest women swimmer of the year.
In college athletics. The natural outgrowth of transgender athletes is
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left wingers are going to say, we just need to
have a unisex category. Why are we even separating men's
and women's athletes, which is exactly what the Athletic the
Atlantic is arguing here. And the reason buck is because
women are not big, as big, as strong, and as
fast as men. But this is wild. In the article,
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they just now trot out things that are one hundred
percent not true and in fact are anti science. And
this has become a big deal. Biology isn't real too
many left wingers anymore. And it says here school sports
are typically sex segregated, and decades of research have sown
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sex is far more complex than we may think, and
those sex differences in sports show advantages for men, and
researchers today still don't know how much of this to
attribute to biological differences versus the lack of support provided
to women athletes to reach their highest potential. Let me
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be clear here, there is no chick in America who
was going to be faster than Usain Bolt. There is
no one in the history of women's athletics who is
going to be as good of a quarterback as Tom Brady.
All right, this is not biological. They don't even have
to go to the extremes of who the greatest male
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athletes are in their sports. I mean, you can look
at what ends up happening. I mean, for example, I
saw Serena Williams, who many argue as the greatest female
tennis player of all times and is dominant in a
way that you've never seen somebody else in that sport
be dominant. Right, there is a woman who won whose
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last name is Court. I believe it's Margaret Court, who
won more majors. That was like fifty years ago. Still
why she's Australian, Yeah, but it was why, it was
a long time ago. The sport was very different speed then,
very different, very different game in a lot of ways.
But Serena Williams as somebody who's I've played enough tennis
to tell you that Serena Williams would lose to certainly
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the top two hundred men on the tour and would
probably even lose to a top d one men's NC
double a tennis player. Okay, I just give and she's
the greatest of all times. Some would argue in the
sport as A as a woman. A couple of years ago,
John McEnroe got in trouble because he said Serena wouldn't
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be one of the best seven hundred men's players in
the one hundred percent true. I can't believe you got
in trouble if it's not even close, by the way,
And yeah, because he said Serena was very talented, but
she was the best women's player. Because he was getting
an interview and the interviewers said, why wouldn't you say
she's the greatest tennis player of all time? And he said,
because she's not. There are seven hundred men right now
who are way better than Serena Williams. And I talked
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to a bunch of pro athletes in tennis after that,
and they said, Serena Williams an incredible talent, she wouldn't
be on any decent college men's tennis team. She couldn't
make them correct. So it's not even that she's not
in the top seven hundred. She's not in the top
ten thousand best men's tennis players in the world according
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to guys who were way more talented in tennis than me.
I mean, the women's soccer US national team played was
it the under sixteen or the it was the under
sixteen team, so fourteen eighteen. I think it was fifteen
and under in Dallas. The best fifteen and under boys
in Dallas. So kids, who are I mean, who are
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you know? Years away from reaching full physical maturity and
they blew out the women's national team like eight to nothing,
which in soccer terms, or was it six to nothing?
It was they beat them comfortably. I don't remember the
exact score. But the point you're making, which is a
really good one, is that high school boys in one
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city in America, I think it was like five to two. Uh.
As the women were training the US women's national team,
which is the best women's team in the world. As
they were training, they scrimmaged against these boys, and the
boys beat them fifteen and from Dallas, Texas. Another good
stat for you is every high school champion in the
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state of Texas in track and field was faster at
every category, every division, was faster than the fastest woman
in the history of the world. I'm sorry it was
it was five to two, by the way I looked
at five to two, which is still a you. You
and I both played high school soccer if you lost
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five to two to another team, you went home feeling
bad about yourself. You weren't close to winning, right, um,
and and yes, so they whipped them. And again, that's
not the best fifteen year old boys was I write
about it being fifteen and under. It wasn't the best
fifteen year old boys in the United States. It was
the best fifteen year old boys in Dallas, Texas, one
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city fifteen year old boys trouts the US women's team.
So here's where we are with this whole gender in
sports situation. The left has reached. They've reached the terminus here,
They've reached the full ends of where this all leads,
which five years ago is oh no, it's not that
it's just about being inclusive or oh no, it's just
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about respect. Now it's honestly, we just need to eliminate
segregated by sex sports because there's no difference in men
and women. Physical made up in their head. It's made
up in your head. This is crazy, But it's just
as crazy to say that there is no innate physical
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difference in a more general sense between men and women.
But they do this. The Left does this because they
are malcontents, because they want to kick at the load
bearing walls of our civilization. And part of this is
also to force people. I always I think this is
very important. I give it so Gulag Archipelago, sulso needs it.
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You know, Gulag Archipelago, right, one of the most important
works of the twentieth century. Everybody should at least read
some of it. It's tough reading in the sense that
it's deeply depressing. But they made everybody who went through
the Gulag system. They were they were They were putting
people through this and sending them away to die. They
were physically abusing them. They always wanted a confession. The
reason they always wanted a confession is because they wanted
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to break you. They knew the charges were fake. They
knew they were lying about the hordes of people that
they were bringing in who were innocent and then sending
off to the Gulag to die and be tortured. But
they wanted to to emotionally and psychologically break you, so
they made you sign crazy charges the equivalent of they
beat you until you say I assassinated Abraham Lincoln, right,
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something that's just it doesn't matter. The point with the
left now they want you just say men and women
aren't different, because then they've broken you. Then they can
get you to admit anything. And think about how few
people in sports are actually willing to stand up to
how crazy this is. What the practical impact of this
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would be is there would basically be no women's athletics
because if there were whatever high school you go to
or went to, or your kids or your grandkids go to,
if you did away, let's say, with women's soccer and
women's basketball, and you just played basketball at that school
and you just played soccer at that school, there would
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be no girls on the team. They wouldn't be good enough.
That's not a slight against women's athletics. I enjoy all
different types of athletics. But if you just had basketball
and you just had soccer, you didn't have the women's
World Cup, and you didn't have the men's World Cup,
And if you didn't have the WNBA and you just
had the NBA, there would be no women's athletes that
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would ever make those teams. There would be no women's
Olympians because there is no sport where men and women
compete evenly, any sport, and I'm aware of where a
woman could beat all the ban in the world. Then
you have the part of the article that goes into well,
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if you look at you know, ten and eleven year olds,
you know they can play they can play sports together.
It's sitting It's like, so are we all going to
pretend that the massive influx of different hormones and pituitary
gland action between men and women it has no difference.
We're all gonna act like we don't realize. All of
a sudden, clay men start getting body hair and places
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they're not used to. They start getting muscles that all
of a sudden are stronger than they used to be.
We're supposed to act like we don't know this. I mean,
this is the The thing about the Atlantic is that
it exists to present a leftist, socially palatable worldview to
libs who think they're really smart. How can they read
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this and still believe that they're intelligent human beings? I mean,
this is brainwashing. Buck. Some of these quotes are crazy.
This is from a University of British Columbia professor. She says,
part of the reason why we have this belief boys
are stronger than girls, and even the fact that we
believe gender is a binary is because of sports, not
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the other way around. Look, I coached little league to
your point, Buck, before boys get testosterone and hit puberty.
This is true. Girls and boys athletes are not very different.
And then boys become way bigger, way stronger, and way faster.
And this is not some like external thing that I
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have made up, Like Michael Jordan is not a chick, right,
and it could never have been a girl. Right. So
the people who actually lay sports, I think this is crazy.
And what needs to happen and hasn't happened yet, is
all these women's athlete players, right, and the people who
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have advocated for Title nine in the first place. The
reason why Title nine exists is because of women not
getting equal opportunity to men in their own sport. It's
not because look the best. That's why. It's about funding.
And so this is so when I rode crew in college,
the UMass and a UMass University Massachusetts men's team had
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to basically self fund. They were right down. They had
to sell scholarships, and the women's team had brand new
I mean these crew shells cost like thirty grand, probably
more than that. Now, the women's team had the newest
best gear. Why because the school had to find ways
to spend lots of money on women's sports. The men's
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team they were out there and like a like a
bathtub with some oars. It was ridiculous, which which by
the way, is primarily because of football, because football takes
up eighty five scholars so much from every college, and
then they have to equal that. And and this is
a really interesting legal argument. Maybe somebody wants to make
it in the in the wake of this Atlantic article.
You know, football doesn't it's not men's football. Women are
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technically eligible to play football. They're just not good enough.
So should you even count those as eighty five male scholarships?
I mean legally, just think about it, like is maybe hey,
according to the Atlantic, maybe the next Ray Lewis is
some five ft two five foot two woman who's just
not getting an opportunity too. There was a football movie
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where Kathy Ireland was the kicker. Yeah, Kathy Ireland was Vanderbilt.
My album My School had a female kicker. See, there's
a real real strong point for women's athletics. Should have
been the quarterback honestly too. But anyway, this article, I'm
gonna share it you guys can go read it will
put it up and Clay and Bucket's one of the
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dumbest things that I've ever seen. But it is increasingly
the province of the left in this country to try
and argue, despite the fact that we're the party of science,
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met Oz is with us now, Doctor Oz. Always good
to have you, sir, especially good today after watching the
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Eagles prevail last night. That was a fair lifelong Eagles fan.
That's the best feeling in the world. Jalen Hurts looks
pretty good. Honestly. There's a lot of uncertainty about how
he was going to pan out, but they appear to
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the Eagles are always in it. The question is how
deeply but Hurts so good is what we say. And
that's actually yesterday I was in Kensington, which is where
they shut and it used to be when I was
in med school and I went to graduate school in Philadelphia.
It was, you know, a preasonable area. Now it's the
biggest open air drug then in their drug park in
the world that I'm probably And you know, it's fentail
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pouring across the open border. It's you know they have
They're shooting up everywhere, people walking like zombies through the streets.
Homeowners can't go back to their apartment. Stores are shut down.
And I went there in part because the Democrats refused
to go to where the homeless are because they know
it and they're ashamed of the reality of what their
policies create. And you mentioned this race. The reason I'm
going to win is my opponent, John Federman, is far
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to the left of Joe Biden. He's you know, Bernie Sanders,
you know Bosom buddy. They call each other two most
progressive candidates in America. They will not own up to
the impact of their policy. So when he says legalize
all drugs, create heroin and sites opened the border, who
who cares about fent at all? And we'll deal with
it later. And then we end up with what I
went through yesterday. You know, it's a lot of hurt,
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a lot of pain for people who if they had
a little bit of help and some courage could could
clean up the streets, take care of the homeless issue,
and a save lot doctor Oz. You know. The Fetterman campaign,
as we understand it is trying to walk back a
little bit the previous support that John Fetterman had given
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for parolling second degree murderers letting them out of prison.
He was also a defund the police guide during the
during the BLM era. What do people need to know
about Fetterman on crime and specifically on the issue of
letting murder? I mean secondary murder is intentional murder or
murder committed in addition to another felony. Uh pretty, I
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mean it's as about as series as it gets. So
why would he want to let those people out? He's
a pro murderer candidate. He's about chaos. He puts the
criminals above the innocent. He wanted to release one third
of all criminals, and he crossed over wanting to push
for first degree murders getting released as well. There was
a man, John David Brookins, who killed his girlfriend's mother.
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Are there people listening right now who probably are upset
about the moms of their girlfriends or watched, but you
don't that's what this guy did. And because she learned
yoga and was studying horticulture, Betterman said, it just didn't
square with him. Literally, he said, that doesn't square with
me that this guy could have done this. A jury
convicts the person, judge sentences them. Betterman thinks he's above
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the law. He's done it over and over again. And
if his main go on life is to take care
of the murderers, then what does that leave Philadelphia, which
has the highest murder rate in its history ever, I
don't buy a Passivania doesn't buy it. He's backtracking because
he knows that he's sounds greatest one hundred and forty
character tweets. People applaud you because you know that's what
they do on Twitter, but in reality it causes chaos,
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murder rates where they are now drugs number three in
the country for friends toile overdose deaths. One of the
women that I took the rehab yesterday last week died
and they managed to get her back with narcan and
she finally said she had enough and wanted to go
to the touch. Where are the Democrats? Where's Fetterman? When
the pro clutching system is you know, living room tweeting
out these things. But the realities people dying on stoops,
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destroying the city of Philadelphia, the same comic problems they're
seeing in Pittsburgh and Harrisburg. It's eerie. Folks are not
going to side with him in this election, and he
is plummeting for this reason. He's trying to hide in
this basement and run the Joe Biden campaign from twenty twenty.
The difference is he's doing it because he's not healthy
because of a stroke, and Joe Biden did it because
of COVID. We know Biden obviously managed to snooker a
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substantial portion of the country. But Fetterman is still refusing
to have a normal debate with you in a normal time.
I believe he's agreed to a late October debate, but
only for sixty minutes and only if he gets closed
captioning so he can read the questions. Have I got
that correct? What is the latest on the debate battle
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and whether Fetterman is claiming that he's healthy enough to
do it well? Either he's healthy as he claims he is,
and he's hiding his radical ideas and doesn't want to
debate them, or he's lying about himself. But you tell
me the debate was supposed to be October six. He said,
I'll only do it if it's the last week of October. Obviously,
because he has two options. You need to bag out
of it if he wants or if he doesn't do well,
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they can try to cover it up for the last
ten days of the campaign. He also does not give
me a full hour. We have to disclose all this
close cash shooting stuff, all the things done because of
his health problems, and then close captually means he's going
to do things slowly. Right. He has to see the
question written out because he can't answer it if it's asked.
And you know, if these are all problems, what is it.
Let me just ask you this. I know you're I
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know you're a doctor, and I know you haven't treated
doctor doctors. You have not treated John Fetterman. But he's
running for an office that requires that you be an
elite communicator to be able to advocate for the state
of Pennsylvania. That's essentially the job of a senator. He's
saying that he can't actually communicate unless he can read
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the questions that are being asked to him. That's a
pretty unbelievable position for someone running for the United States
Senate to be putting forward in a public fashion. Listen,
I've got compassion. I know what he's going through. I
treat these problems, you know. I mean, you have hearts
failure and ATU pribrillation and a stroke and all this
stuff's going on. You can't understand the words normally. I
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get it. It's hard, but you have got to be
transparent with the voters of Pennsylvania. Pat Toomey came in
campaign last week and said you cannot serve in the Senate,
that you can't debate this man. Federman has not answered
a question on the campaign trail spontaneously from a reporter.
I did that yesterday for example, as I always do,
gaggle of reporters, ask whatever you want. I'll feel that
it's my job. I'm running to be your senator. You
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have to understand how I deal with pressure. Pediman doesn't
answer questions from voters. He doesn't answer my questions. What
kind of a democracy do we have if you're not
forced to answer the questions that appropriately should be asked
of you To defend your positions. And by the way,
if you're bothered by this, everyone go to doctors dot
com and support me. The reason Fretterman is doing as
he is doing in Pennsylvania, it's because he's funded primarily
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with money from New York and California pouring in people.
Liberals don't realize how dangerous he is. They just want
to get a fifty first seat in the Senate, but
they're gonna put someone there who's in near and present danger.
And it's amazing. We're speaking of doctor Oz, Doctor Oz.
I've seen already the shift in the last few months. Federman.
Everything you saw on this guy until this year was
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he's a progressive. I mean, to your point about being
aligned with Bernie Sanders, he was a legalized drugs, defund
the police. You know, whose streets are streets. He's basically
like a rabble rousing Marxist, is what this guy's really
going for. Like that's his vibe. And now all of
a sudden we're told, oh, no, he's a moderate Democrat.
He's totally you know, just like just like all the
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other hard work in folks of Pennsylvania. I mean, at
some point it's just too much. He's about chaos, His
position as an education are flawed. The hippoc gets deeper
in taxes. He's a big advocate for raising middle class taxes.
He hasn't paid his sixty seven times how many people
out there had not paid their taxes once? I mean,
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he's got sixty seven Leans. We're not paying taxes and
got you gotta tell us a little how is that
even possible? Like I think I owe the irs once
two hundred dollars ten years ago, and I was told, like,
you better pay up or l like what sixty seven Leans.
He's got properties that they didn't pay taxes on, He's
got foundations that they didn't file their documents, and then
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they was asked about it said, oh it s flipped
through the cracks, not a big deal. What are you
talking about. You're not above the law. You cannot rewrite
tax law to suit your needs. You don't get to
jag up reckless spending and then claim it's not the
fault of you and Biden, but rather the oil companies
are proper steering. He wants to send the DOJ after
leaders of corporate America who he doesn't like. What are
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you talking about? And This is the kind of stuff
that he he blurts it out and people cover for him.
But this is the person you'd be putting into the
US Senate. He's basically a AOC on steroids and growth hormone.
So my understanding, let me get this right, doctor Oz.
He bought his house for a dollar from his sister.
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His parents funded his lifestyle in his thirties and his forties.
He is recovering from a very serious illness and is
not capable of actually doing the job. According to the
current Senator from Pennsylvania, Pat Toomey, who has actually done
the job, and back in twenty thirteen, he heard bottle
rockets going off, grabbed a shotgun and chased down a
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random black jogger and held him at gunpoint because he
thought he was responsible for this. Andy wants to release
a third or more of all prisoners inside of Pennsylvania prisons.
Does this guy have any actual normal opinions? Is there anything?
I mean? It's honestly, I haven't heard one thing that
I like about him. And oh, by the way, tends
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to be working class by wearing shorts and a hoodie
around everywhere. Why is he not the worst candidate that
either party has nominated in this election cycle. Oh he
is with our question. He unleashes chaos wherever he goes,
and the Democratic Party did not want him to be
their nominee. But this is the crisis of America basis,
he's so out there, far left, and not just from
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his costume with his hoodie, but everything he says that
he attracts a disaffected a generation of Democratic voters, far
left radicals. They just want to blow it up. Just
America so irredeemably stayed. We'd rather destroy it and then
we can rebuild it with our own ideology. And then
they go behind him and they donate crazy amounts of
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money online to this guy. So he takes those ads
and he pretends he's something else. That is a Democratic
Party strategy. Don't debate, don't answer questions, stay in your basement,
like Joe Biden. We'll just manufacture you. We'll tell people
who they should think you are. Address it specifically to
whatever your biases are. And basically Max Headroom, I'm running
against Max's head will. He never goes out and says anything.
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He doesn't take positions, he doesn't defend his stances. He
just runs ads to tell his version, which of course
ignores the reality of what he said in the past.
It's why I'm going to beat him, because Pennsylvania is
a too smart for this. But watch my words. This
is the Democratic Party agenda, a game plan going forward.
They're not going to run their candidates. And if you
get away with it, if you don't have to actually
have a candidate leave home, make mistakes, defend themselves, which
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is hard to do, then you're never going to have
candidates campaigning. You're just gonna sit in your basement, call
for donors, collect the money, put TV's on, with ads
on television, and Cohn the voting public. We will no
longer have democracy as we know it. Pennsylvanians, you gotta
get it done. For doctor oz here, doctor Ozz, appreciate
you being with us or thank you God bless doctors
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including what have we been saying? What has been the
mantra I am not a fan of face tattoos, but
if we had face tattoos on this show, it would
be GOP needs to talk about the following three things, crime,
the border, and the economy. Right, we've been we've been
just hammering this at heaviors and all this GOP talking
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about all this other stuff in Ukraine and you know
all the Ukraine. No no, no, no no no. If we're
going to win back power to stuff, because that's the
only thing that stops the lips. One of the things
Clay I found most illuminating for a lot of folks
over the whole Martha's Vineyard migrant fiasco is these these libs.
There is a democrat mentality that has taken hold of
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about thirty percent of the country. You cannot shame them
with hypocrisy, It does not matter. You just have to
stop them, like the same thing we're seeing with COVID.
You have to take the political power out of their
hands to keep doing crazy things. The way to do
that the border, crime, the economy, hitting those topics and
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over at MSNBC, Steve Kornaki is one of the smarter
guys at MSNBC. He actually crunches the numbers. He looks
at the data. He's he's he's a sharp rational, he's
a sharp fellow. Would you say he's rational. He's one
of the sharper analysts over at MSNBC for sure. And
here he is saying, Republicans, you got three things that
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you're gonna win on. What about the issues and the
strength for each party? What you see here is you
ask people which party would you prefer on these issues?
These are the three issues where Republicans score the strong.
It's the border, crime, and economy by a margin at
thirty six points, twenty three points in nineteen points, voters
say they would prefer the Republicans when it comes to
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these issues. Did you, I mean, I think he was
twenty twenty plus points on the border. Just so everybody understands,
what a huge because we have been talking about that,
hitting that hard for months and months now, and I'm
glad that because of the Martha's Vineyard situation it's coming
to the forefront. But all these things that really matter
to people, that matter to everybody in their day to
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day lives all across this country. Clay, if the GOP
goes on offense, stops taking a knee and actually gets
the messaging right, we could be back on track here
for the red wave we've been hoping for. Yeah, in
particular on crime, what I would say is every state,
every city, if you are a congressional candidate, senate candidate,
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govern ubernatorial candidate, there is a story like Eliza Fletcher
in Memphis, in your community. And the reason why I
keep coming back to Eliza Fletcher is completely innocent, mom
of two young children, kindergarten teacher in Memphis, who was
out for a ten mile early morning jog before she
comes back home to get her family ready to start
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the day, and she's murdered by a man who should
have never been released from prison. And also it is
emerging in Memphis had already sexually assaulted another woman since
he was released early. So if they had been able
to do, if they'd had the resources in Memphis, they
would have caught this guy. He should have never gotten
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out early, but they would have caught him on the
sexual assault before he committed this murder. There is a
story like that that crystallizes the fear, the danger, and
the reality of our rapidly spiraling crime rates in your state,
in your district, in your region. Use it not just
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to focus on that particular story, but to tell the
larger narrative story here of back of safety in the communities. Buck.
You mentioned Oregon and the fact that we've got a
competitive race, and Christine Drayson is going to join us
in this show in the next hour Portland. I guarantee
you when we talk to her, she is hammering Portland.
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Portland has seen a quadrupling of its murder rate on
average since twenty nineteen to today. They had around twenty
murders a year on average for most of the twenty
first century, and then they went over eighty. When you
look at the post George Floyd era, the soft on
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crime era, that resonates, and it particularly resonates you know who.
It resonates with moms, people who have kids, people who
are worried about the safety of their family that might
be swing voters crime. There is an example that you
can use in every single community of completely innocent people
being murdered because police aren't being able to do their
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job and Democrats have failed in blue dates and blue
cities to protect their constituents. People are also noticing that
viral video from over the weekend with the guy swinging
the axe at people and breaking property, threatening to mutilate
people with an axe in a crowded McDonald's in Lower Manhattan.
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He was held for two hours and has since that incident,
which went viral, been walking the streets of New York
like nothing happened. And now people are gonna say, oh,
but he will face justice. No, he won't, actually, because
he's going to go up against a criminal justice system
in New York. That and this is the case in
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every major city in the country right now pretty much.
You might be able to find me a few exceptions,
but every major city, every large city, you have a
system that now has shifted toward being just far too complacent,
far too soft on crime, far too willing to use
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the horrific stuff that is going on on a day
to day basis. And it's getting so bad, Clay, and
this is a real sign of things that Hockel, the
governor of New York who became the governor, just remind
everybody because Governor Cuomo had to resign under pressure because
of groping, not for sending seniors with COVID back into
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nursing homes and then lying about the numbers covering the
whole thing. Up all true, that's not why the Democrats
made him resign. But he grabbed a female state trooper
by the stomach or the bud or something. He did something,
you know, was grabbing people inappropriately, so he had to
leave for that. She ascends to being the governor of
New York where's a vaccine necklace and says the vaccine
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is a gift from God. I honestly think she has
an IQ in the low eighties, and I'm just, I'm
just I call it like it is. She's running against Liezeldon,
who's a serious guy, a smart guy, and she had
to call out the a in Manhattan and say, yeah,
that was like, wait, this is a problem when you
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have the crazy axe wielding guy out within two hours,
no bail, no bail, and hope that he shows up
at court, and hope that he's actually punished in some way,
that he realizes you can't threaten strangers with an axe
because you're having a bad day. When the governor of
New York is calling it out, that's because the Democrats
have a problem. I saw a headline and I couldn't
help but laugh. I think it was a New York
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Post said and the headline was, and I'm paraphrasing here,
it was something like axe guy says he's misunderstood, not
really violent when you're referred to as axe guy and saying,
I guess he did an interview saying that he was misunderstood, misunderstood.
He's not really a bad guy. He just had a
rough day, as one does. He pulled his axe out
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and started chopping up McDonald's. But it's just it's not
really him that what you saw on that video. It
is pretty funny to think about axe guy claiming that
he's just misunderstood. But that's the world that we live
in now, where you know, criminals don't even go to jail.
You got guys with axes. As I pointed out, unless
you are a fireman in New York City, I would
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think the number of people who really need an axe
to go to McDonald's for any reason, like's not a
lot of wood shopping going on in midtown Manhattan, not
a lot of trees that need to be brought down.
I wouldn't imagine on a regular basis, like not a
lot of lumber business, uh in on the lower And
that was down near Tribeca, right, Yeah, it was it
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was downtown, was on De Lancey, So I guess it's
a lower eas side that I get that right producer ally,
I've only lived here almost forty years. There we go. Yeah,
So I thought that was just a perfect representation. But
those stories what I'm talking about. There is a violent
viral crime video in every single major city in America,
and all of you listening to me right now can
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think in your head of a story that you have
seen recently that has made you feel unsafe as we
are back into a high crime era in the United States.
So I also want to actually, you know, what, can
I tell everybody about the what the mayor is focused
on here in New York? Would we come back? Everyone
greatise last night because guess what, everybody, there was a
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there were two homeless guys throwing trash cans at each
other's faces in broad daylight. And then later that same
day in that same place, the Mayor's throwing a big
concert hashtag Rise Up NYC. As if that's gonna help things,
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