September 21, 2022 • 40 mins
Our Advice to Youth: Live In Another Country Before You Bash America. Brian Morgenstern, Fmr. WH Deputy Press Secretary, Exposes Fauci Fraud and Trump's Dilemma. Our Friend Karol Markowicz on Trump vs. DeSantis, Vax Mandate Madness and Crime.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast, Clay and Buck Show Hour to going
Strong as always, Thanks for hanging out with us. We're
doing very much. Appreciate it. We have a whole bunch
of things to get you. And I just realized we've
got great guests joining us during the show in just
a little bit. Our friend Carol Markowitz, who is the
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fierce mom defender of children from masking and vaxing, and
she is one of my one of my favorites from
here in New York City during the pandemic, who was saying,
this is crazy, stop the madness. Talk to her about
about that. Also the crime issue. I really think more
people need to be seeing this story. We won't get
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into it too much in detail now, but Clay, I
know you and I've talked about an offline. This lovely
young woman sitting in her car, car riddled with bullets
and baton rouge at Louisiana Senior at LSU just just
murdered and the car was shot many, many, many times.
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The police are completely at a loss for what could
what could have been going on here. Locals are reportedly
saying they think it was a gang initiation, which certainly
seems plausible. And law enforcement. Look, law enforcement in Louisiana
in general right now is understaffed, undermanned, underresourced, and undersupported
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politically with I mean, New Orleans is the highest we
just talked to, this highest murder rate in the nation,
which is it's just terrible. Me It's it's terrible when
any places has fallen into that category. But I I mean,
I know you feel the same way, Clay, New Orleans
is an amazing place. It's a beautiful, historically, super rich,
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culturally amazing city. I mean, even as a New Yorker,
I just think New Orleans is such a cool place.
And the fact that has had the crime situation. Anyway,
we'll talk Carol about about some of that here at
a moment, and then in the final hour of the program,
Clay Brian Morgan Stern will be with us. He is
the former White House Deputy Press Secretary, so he was
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the deputy under our friend Kaylee mckinety at the White
House under Trump. Brian's a very sharp guy and he's
got some stuff to tell everybody about what Fauci was
saying in the White House behind closed doors. This will
not come as a shock to this audience. But Fauci's
a huge fraud. He even mocked the stupidity of some
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of the policies that he would then go out and
tell people make sense and everything. He is an egomaniac.
He is the world's most evil, narcissistic smurf. I mean,
all of that is true. Brian will give us a
little bit of a peek behind White House closed doors
on that one. But you and I both with the
history fights. They think they can control the past and
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therefore control the president, rather control the narrative of the
past and use it to dictate the politics of this moment.
Huge example, this is obviously the sixteen nineteen project to
come up with what is essentially a new founding and
framework of this country rooted in, you know, the evils
and depression of America, and the only way to deal
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with this today is to put the people in charge
now who believe in the narrative of America as a
fundamentally wrought an evil, awful place. You see also the polling,
by the way about Democrats that I'm trying to remember
what the exact less than half of Democrats are proud
to be America, I mean. And the other scary part
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was in the wake of Ukraine. If you remember Buck,
what percentage of Democrats would actually stay and defend the
country if it was invaded. Over half of Democrats would leave.
This is a stunning poll result. Again, if America were invaded,
would you stay in fight or flee? Over half of
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Democrats would flee. And the reason for this era of
Democrats is because they believe America is a rotten, awful place. Now,
most of these people have never actually gone anywhere else, right,
This is one of the advantages if we had some
sort of peace Corps requirement or even service requirement in
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this country for eighteen and nineteen year olds, if you
had to go to some third world countries and see
what it's actually like there, then you might come back
to America and say, hey, you know, it ain't perfect,
but we're getting an awful lot. Right. Unfortunately, most of
these people have no clue what the rest of the
world is like at all, and so they sit around
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on their phones denigrating America with no understanding or comprehension
of larger world affairs. My advice always to younger young
people as somebody who got sent for work to a
number of places that were conflict zones I mean two
war zones and other places where their active insurgencies and
major counter terrorism operation underway because of al Qaeda and
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these different jehattest entities. And I spent my twenties basically
in that world dealing with that. You go to other
places and you come back to America and you want
to kiss the ground that this country was built on.
You you love, which is why so many people that
also come back and have done military service also have
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just a feeling for this country is incredible. I mean
it really and they went to fight because they know
it's incredible, and they come back and I think I
have a recognition. I mean, talk to any VET who
spend a lot of time in a rock or Afghanistan.
You come back to America, You're just like, this place
is phenomenal. And we bring all this up because you know,
and also we can hold in our heads two thoughts
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at the same time. America is the greatest country that
has ever existed. It's also got some problems that we
should address, and the Libs want to destroy it. I mean,
these are two things or two areas where you can
think about at the same time. But but fighting over
history is not It's not just an intellectual exercise. It's
important and making sure that we have a history that
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is in the proper context and people understand who did
what and when and how we got to this place
we're currently in. Someone who has not read I can
assure you anything substantial about the history of America. Is
mister Don Lemon the New Morning big promotion. You hear
this big promotion promotion to the Morning Show over at CNN.
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He was talking to the royal commentator Hillary Fordwitch. Is
she on your speed down? By the way? Clay and
you and Hillary chat about the rollary and I text
all the time. But at the latest drama Buck, I
was clicking to see what the lip readers were saying
about all the different royal interactions during the ceremony for
Queen Elizabeth. I got something. I got to admit. I mean,
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I told her I was going to because I looked
at her less than I said. You know, at two,
Carrie she all in, She's like, She's like, look, I
gotta agree with Cray, with Clay, the royal intrigue is fascinating.
I was like, no, Tay, A million people watch the
funeral yesterday, which is basically unheard of, Like more people,
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I think watch the funeral than watch the Oscars to
kind of put it in context. And the people talk
about the Oscars a lot. And this was the tenth
day that I'll even be honest with you, this thing
didn't seem like it was ever going to end. And
so yeah, Carrie's like most you know, yeah, she's on
team play on this one. She's like, I think it's fascinating,
the intrigue, the drama of the pageantry and anyway, right,
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bring it, bring it right into my house. I can't
believe it. But anyway, the Royal commentator Hilary fordwich Um,
when Don Lemon said that the Brits effectively should pay reparations,
here is her I think on it. Part of well,
we have two pieces of the thing. Let's start playing
the whole thing. Start with the goat. All of this
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wealth and you hear about it comes to England. It's
facing rising costs of living, a living crisis and a sterity,
budget cuts and so on. And then you have those
who are asking for reparations for colonialism and they're wondering,
you know, one hundred billion dollars, twenty four billion dollars
here and there, five hundred million there. Some people want
to be paid back, and members of the public are wondering,
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why are we suffering when you are you know, you
have all of this vast Well, those are legitimate concerns, now,
I know you. You and I are both like prize
fighters who want to get in the ring on this
right away because there's so much there, like who gets
the money, what's enough money, who pays for it? What
if you know, you know, like you have two ethnicities,
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you know you have one parent from the UK? Are
going to have a blood what analysis? Also, how about
the fact that lots of people are immigrants who arrived
who might be black post slavery, Right, so you are
let's say you're a Nigerian immigrant who's only been here
for twenty years, why would you get reparations for American
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related interest? And the large picture here which no one
ever discusses. And I hope we can start to inject
this into the discourse at least as every time this
comes up. America only had slavery the United States of
America for eighty years Okay, we from seventeen eighty three
to eighteen sixty three, only eighty years. But this is
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the British response. Ye Sots have their own history with
this and what she said in response to Don Lemon,
the Royal commentator dropping some truth bombs here. I think
you're right about reparations in terms of if people want it,
though what they need to do is you always need
to go back to the beginning of a supply chain.
Where was the beginning of the supply chain that was
in Africa and when that crossed the entire wall when
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the slavery was taking place. Which was the first nation
in the world that abolished slavery, first nation in the
world to bollish it. It It was started by William Wilberforce.
Was the British in Great Britain they abolished slavery. The
African kings were rounding up their own people. They had
them on cages waiting in the beaches. No one was
running into Africa to get them. And I think you're
totally right. Operations need to be paid. We need to
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go right back to the beginning of that supply chain
and say who was wounding up their own people on
having them handcuffed in pages. That's where they should stop.
I mean, that's it's a fascinating and important point she
makes here about how that you know, there's also it's
often not talked about, but there were there were minorities
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that what we think of as minority today who owned slaves.
Oh yeah, if you know, there were actually the slave trade,
the transatlantic slave trade, and also the the role that
Latin America played in it is something that that gets
very little little time and coverage in the media, for sure.
But Clay, I mean, just okay, so we're gonna start
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doing this like we have a Lleger Like, Okay, the Brits,
so they made responsible for x percentage, the x percentage,
Well where does this come in though with? Because she
also wanted to talk about the thousands of Brits who
died on the high seas to end slavery. So so
I want to know, I mean, it's it's something I've
asked before. So if I had ancestors who died fighting
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in the Civil War in the Civil War, do I
get like credit for that or how do we actually
do this? How do we deal with the fact that
what I mean, you would know you're this, you're the
Civil War buff total casualties in the Civil War were
I mean deaths in the hundreds of thousands. Six hundred thousand,
I believe is the number of Union soldiers who died.
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I think I'm correcting this off top of my head
during the Civil War. One of them was one of
my ancestors. I had, you know, northern and southern ancestors
who fought on both sides of that war. So yeah, So,
so how do we gauge what is the price in
blood that was paid to end slavery in the American
Civil War? And then how does that affect reparations? And
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I'm just wondering, you know, because she brings up, for example,
with the Brits, thousands of men never made it home
to their families to fight to end slavery on the
high seas. That was the only that was their role
in the British Navy, and they died in that pursuit.
So are they are they exempted from these reparations? And
also who do the reparations go to? Exactly yeah, no,
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And the reparation's argument is ridiculous. Six hundred and twenty
thousand total dead across Union and Confederate soldiers, So around
three hundred and sixty thousand Union deaths reported, two hundred
and fifty eight thousand Confederate deaths reported, so three hundred
and sixty thousand Northern soldiers died. Many people listening to
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us right now would have an ancestor who died in
the Civil War. I did certainly fighting on the side
of the North. Should there not be you know, well,
but ancestors died. Ancestors died, and huge numbers on both
sides of that conflict. And so you say that was
our nation paid a massive price in blood, by far
the most casualties we have ever suffered in any conflict. Okay,
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So how does that get factored? And this is why
eventually this is just it's very clear. This is about power.
This is about who gets to determine who gets what
now today, and it's certainly not about justice because what
does that even look like? It's true? And I just
love Don Lemon getting dunked on there because at the
end he was like, oh, that's interesting, Like he didn't't
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even have a response to her historical knowledge. And what
I appreciate her bringing up is no one ever mentions
the fact that the people in Africa were initially enslaved
by other African kings and then were sold to the
people who engaged in the slave trade. But the slavery
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started in Africa, and no one ever wants to talk
about that responsibility at all in the overall global slave marketplace.
And do we get I'm just wanting, do we get
any extra credit for those of us who had ancestors
who fought to prevent the world from being enslaved by
the Nazis? You know, it seems like kind of a
big deal. I think that's kind of a big deal too,
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you know, So do we get do we get credit
for that? Or is it just no, it's all oh okay, yeah,
I think everyone seeing here you can you get like
a little different checkboxes along the way to find out
how much responsibility you actually have. I mean, and this
is the other part of it too. I mean I
wonder for people who have who have, you know, a
mixed ethnic heritage, So do they get the check but
then they have to send the check back? Or how
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does how does that work? If you're doing reparations from
the British Empire from five hundred years ago? You know
what I mean, it doesn't make it's totally absurdly illogical.
And also it doesn't even consider that the entire rationale
for affirmative action, which has now existed for seventy some
odd years in this country, almost was predicated on what
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Speaking truth and having fun, Clay Travis and Buck Sexton.
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Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. We are
joined now by Brian Morgan Stern. We were just talking
about the hipocrisy out there from our good friend doctor Fauci,
and Brian has got a great book out. He was
a former White House Deputy Press Secretary. He's the owner
of Win the Future Strategies and his book is out.
Vignettes and Vino Dinner Table Stories from the Trump White
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house with the recipes and cocktail pairings behind the scenes. Brian,
I read this and I was like, it doesn't surprise
me at all. Doctor Fauci actually mocked the stupidity of
restaurant restrictions where you had to wear a mask until
you sat down at your table. Yes, Clay and Buck,
it's great to be with you, and yes, of course
he did. My blood was boiling because everyone was suffering
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from pandemic restrictions, and of course people would walk into
a restaurant wearing a mask and then sit down at
the table and have a conversation and a whole meal
with no mask on. Anyone was common sense knows that
that was ridiculous, including Fauchi, because I was in a
meeting with him when he commented on that and laughed
about how ridiculous it was. But of course he wouldn't
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then go out and tell the people that some of
the restrictions were ridiculous. He would just kind of laugh
behind their backs, including at his own comment about wearing
goggles and multiple masks, which he made on television after
of course, he was against masks before he was for them,
and then when he was for them, he was for
multiple masks and goggles, and behind the scenes he was
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laughing about how ridiculous his own comments were and how
he could really just get everybody to believe anything this
guy said, but he was wrong about everything over the
course of the pandemic. The media painted this guy to
be America's doctor, But speaking for myself, I don't want
him to be my personal doctor, let alone the country's doctor,
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because he was wrong about every major thing throughout the pandemic. So, Brian,
it's bucket. You were obviously deput Press Secretary Trump White House.
You're there in the early stages the pandemic. All the
stuff is going on. For me, the original sin of
Fauciism was the flip flop on masks. Right, he initially
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is going, look, masks doesn't really do anything and might
make people feel better, and then all of a sudden,
it's just they're all these mask policies going in all
across the country, the federal mask mandate on planes. Was
there an awareness in the White House of that Foucci switch? Like,
how did that actually come to be? And I also
want to ask you, we were I was told, I
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was told who wasn't a senior White House official cameramer
who was now who actually claimed that doctor Burkes was
as bad as Fauci on the duplicity and all this stuff.
So I wanted to tackle both of those. So there
was a sense that Fauchi and Burkes both actually were
really airing on the side of caution. That is the
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understatement of the century in terms of advocating for restrictive policies.
And Scott Atlas, remember President Trump brought him onto the
task force. He was the kind of voice who would say,
the cure can't be worse than the disease. There was
an atmosphere in the country that COVID was this unknown
silent killer, and so we should be safe rather than sorry,
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and so the kind of voices of caution went out
at that time. We knew that Fauci and Births liked
to get a lot of attention, and in order to
get a lot of attention, they had to scare people,
and so they did that a lot. The sort of
fine line we had to walk was let people know
that President Trump was taking the pandemic seriously, but again
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that the cure can't be worse than the disease. I
don't know if that kind of answered both of your
questions in one statement, but I'm happy to take another
swing at it. Yeah, Brian, Obviously we know Fauci is
a fraud, and we've been frustrated with him on this
program for the entire length of the time that we've
been on the air together, and before that, and we
had solo shows. We were super frustrated with him. What
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was his overall What was the overall vibe of Fauci
behind the scenes in the White House, in other words,
how much you've told us that he would say things
privately which were very different than what he would say publicly.
How much of a difference was there in Fauci in
public in private in general. So he was the joke
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that we used to tell what was We would referred
to him as Saint Anthony because of how he was
portrayed in the media. But what we had learned in
dealing with him was that he was really an egomaniac
who was wrong a lot, and that's very dangerous about
science in medicine. Of course, he was wrong about the
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severity of the virus early on, he said it was
not something people should worry about. He was before four
Masks or against masks, before he was for them, he
said vaccines could not possibly be created in less than
eighteen months. Now we created them in nine months. He
can argue about the efficacy, but the process was nine months.
He was wrong by exactly one hundred percent. He said
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he was wrong about when President Trump should be vaccinated
because he had already had COVID. I mean, I can
go on and on, but he was not an easy
person to deal with. Of course, he's the only person
I ever encountered to use the term latinics un ironically
when he would always talk about the vaccine studies that
we got to get more Latinics in the study, you
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got to have more Latini. That's actually a promfect example
of how left wing he is too. By the way,
it's also pretty good Faucci that Brian pull there. I'm feeling,
you know, Brian's give the pressure putting a competition, so Brian,
so Faucci was obviously, I mean, I joke around with people,
but I'm not really that joking that. I don't think
anyone thinks Fauci's worse than I do. Did Trump figure
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this out? Like? I mean, this is because right now,
you know, we support the big guy and he there
are a lot of things that he did that were fantastic,
but he says, I did the opposite of everything Fauci
told me to do. Unfortunately that's not true. At what
point did Faucci did Trump rather realize this guy's meaning
Faucci is a problem. So there were comments that President
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Trump made that I think it leaked out. I think
he was making them on a teletown hall to some
donors at the time, if my memory served, and he
basically articulated the position that most of us had at
that time from a purely sort of campaign public relations standpoint,
and again walking that fine line of taking the virus
seriously but also trying to do the right thing for
the people and not having the sure worse than the disease.
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The President said, I'm basically stuck between a rock and
a hard place, and paraphrasing, he said, if I fire
the guy, I pull him off TV, I take him away,
then all of a sudden, there's this huge bomb that
comes out about how I'm not trusting the science and
all of this, Whereas if I just kind of let
him run his mouth, but then I also say my opinion,
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you know, at least it's kind of equal. Basically, he said,
we're gonna have bombs thrown at us either way. So
sometimes in life you only have bad choices, and I
would say that the way Fauci was propped up by
the Democrats and the media left President Trump with only
bad choices. It's either let him run his mouth and
also counter him, or fire him and have one giant
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explosion all at once. Brian, do you think Trump's gonna
run again? And how much do you think, obviously the
sort of legal troubles surrounding him impact whether he's going
to run again or not. So I would say, given
what I've observed since the White House, he has involved
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at every level, he's got the most powerful endorsement, he's
still doing rallies, it seems to me more likely than
not Trump runs. He also wants to counter those who
are out to get him by saying, you know, this
is for political purposes. I think they're actually sort of
baiting him into running. I think it's more likely than not.
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The other side of the coin, which I think is
again less than fifty percent, would be He says, you
know what, I'm having so much fun doing live golf.
I'm having so much fun in the private sector, just
kind of being a kingmaker living in paradise at Marlago.
Why would I get back into politics. It's such a
nasty business. So I think he's weighing those things, but
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I would say more than fifty percent. I think he runs. Brian.
Your book Vignettes and Veno Dinner Table Stories from the
Trump White House with recipes and cocktail parags. Quite a
cocktail book. Tell me a cocktail table book, I mean,
and tell me a bit about to either give me
a story, a recipe or a cocktail pairing that forty
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five himself would approve of. Oh my gosh, well okay,
so first recipe. You know, we all know he likes
a nicely charred steak. Oh my gosh, you went to
well done steak, Briant to dump this audio, go ahead.
My steak recipe is not that, okay. It is a
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steak sandwich recipe that my wife came up with that
is thinly sliced, well seasoned. It's got a delicious garlic
aoli on it served on I think we have it
on shibbada with a rugla on there. It's absolutely delicious.
It's an honor of a story of when I was
with President Trump in Bedminster and of course they make
his favorite steak in Bedminster. I would say story, my
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h my first week at the White House was something
I dealt with with Fauci. He got himself invited to
throw out the first pitch for Major League Baseball when
we were going to have President Trump throw at the
first pitch, but before they could announce it, Fauci, whose
friends with the Washington Nationals owners, got himself invited. So
we had to come up with an alternate event, which
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actually worked out great because we had Marianna Rivera with
some little leaguers, and we had ESPN and Barstool Sports
there and it was like a total home run of
a day. Sorry for the metaphor, it was absolutely outstanding.
And the poetic justice is that when Fauchi threw out
the first pitch, other than Carle Ray Jepson's, it was
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the worst first pitch ever thrown. He based stole the
first pitch honors from Trump. Wow. Yes, So our staff
was in Tiansag with Major League Baseball. They were going
to have President Trump throughout the first pitch. Before there
was any announcement, Fauchi and the Nats conspired to get
Fauchi invited instead, and they put the announcement out before
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the White House in major league. Wow. I mean that's
a great story. I didn't know that. Thank you for Yeah.
I mean that's insane, that's absolutely ridiculous. Thank you Brian.
The book, obviously, we'd encourage people to check it out.
Then Yet's and Vino dinner Table Stories from the Trump
White House, our friend Brian Morganster and Brian Goold to
talk to you, buddy, you guys, thanks for having me on.
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over to rational, reasonable people. But there are still restrictions
out there. They just fired eight hundred and fifty teachers
in New York City for not getting a COVID shot
that the private sector no longer has to worry about
starting I think November. Who can make sense of all this? Oh?
I know our friend Carol Markowitz from the New York
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Post where she's an opinion columnist. She's got a piece
out continuing COVID craziness. Shows it was never about the science, Carol, No,
it was not. Tell everybody how we know this now
more than ever. Hi, guys, you know how many of
these pieces have I written and have been on to discuss,
and yet we're still in this insanity in so many
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of these places. It's September twenty twenty two, and yesterday
in New York City lifted its private vaccine mandate, the
vaccine mandate that was for private companies, and the rest
of the country is like, wait, they had a vaccine
mandate for private companies. It's such a baffling and backwards
way of living, and it's so disappoints me that more
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New Yorkers don't speak up about it, Carol, do you
You're in Florida now, and obviously the news today about
Trump and the criminal civil charges, but the fact that
there's still criminal allegations pending. In everything else, the Santis
is going to win comfortably in forty eight days reelection
in Florida. Most Floridians that you talk to want the
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Santis to run for president or they want him to
stay as governor. So it's interesting because I think that
Floridians have a completely different consideration. It's not so much
the Trump de Santis thing down here, it's the can
we lose our governor? So it's it's like in the
rest of the country, I feel like the conservative question
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is which of these two guys do we want? Whereas
in Florida, it's like, wait, we really don't want to
lose our governor, even though everybody kind of think he
would make an amazing presidential candidate. So ultimately, yeah, I
think people like him and want him entire office. I
think they're concerned about what happens to their state. It's
a really kind of perilous time, they feel, and it
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can go either way, Like the state has been trending
red and it's been pretty deep read in the last
few years. But you know, anything can happen. This hand
is only won by a very small marginal last time,
so a lot of affection for the governor. I would
stay down here. We're speaking to Carol mark Whitz, New
York Post columnist Carol. Crime is one of the big
issues that Democrats know. They got a real problem with
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the public because the crime numbers are terrible. And when
you look at this as as an increase, you know,
people say, oh, it was worse than the nineties. Yeah,
well that was thirty years ago. So when you look
at a not just a thirty or forty fifty percent increase,
someplace have had shootings, homicides increase one hundred percent, one
hundred and fifty percent. But but you share this story,
(32:08):
I'd know it was written I think by somebody else
about the Park Slope panthers. Can you just tell everybody
a little bit about about the park because you used
to live in Park Slope in New York City? What
do people need to know about this? This neighborhood watch
group that apparently couldn't get past whether to call people
crazy or neurodivergent when they were growing bottles and old ladies.
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So park Slope is an insane place, but for a
long time it was a really beautiful, very very safe
place to be. And the growing up in New York City,
park Slope was a dream, especially for somebody growing up
in Brooklyn. It was actually the dream. But what's happened
in the last few years is it's gone from liberal
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to leftist and it has really lost the plot. This story,
by Susie Weiss on Barry White's Common Sense page was
about a group that had formed because a homeless person
had killed somebody's dog, and that finally moved Parkslopers to say,
we have to start taking this crime thing more seriously.
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It's finally here. It's happening now. And I know a
side note to this. In twenty twenty, when people were saying, oh,
crime is getting bad, all the people in Parkslope were saying,
that's very racist. You say, actually, and we shouldn't be
talking about crime getting bad because you know, and so
it wasn't really affecting them, but now it is. And
this group formed and it's a hilarious story. It really
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made my day. It was so funny and so well written.
I don't know that it was supposed to be funny necessarily,
but it was amazing and how these teenagers came up
to them and said that they should be checking their privilege.
And of course these teenagers live in Parkslope, grew up
in Parkslope, are the most privileged people possible, etc. Highly
recommend the story, So, Carol, in twenty twenty one, suburban
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moms said we've had and they went and they got
Glenn Yunkin elected in Virginia and nearly flipped New Jersey.
I mean, that's how much of a red wave we
saw in that first year after the Biden administration. What
do you think we're going to see in forty eight days?
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How are those suburban moms going to react? How much
did abortion change the political calculus in your mind in
terms of those suburban mom decisions. And the reason why
I'm pointing out suburban moms in particular is there's lots
of people who know, we know how they're going to vote.
That was the sort of the impetus, the charge that
changed things in twenty one. How are these moms going
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to vote? In your mind in twenty two. I still
think that that demographic is fired up and really wants
to go to the ballot box and punish the people
who had kept schools closed for as long as they did,
kept their kids masks for as long as they did,
kept them in the vaccine mandates for as long as
they did. I think that that demographic block is still
very significant. The problem is I don't see Republican candidates
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speaking to that block in the same way that Glenyonkin did.
Glen Yonkin made himself the education guy, and that is
so powerful. It's not just these issues that we're dealing
with right now. Education on so many different levels has
just collapsed in cities all across the country. And I
think that that candidates that can speak to these concerns,
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collapsing standards, merit removal of merit based anything, all of
this is very important to parents, and I just don't
see the same kind of Republican contact to these people.
I think that a lot of these people are still
fired up on their own, but it would be best
if the Republican Party could maybe craft some messaging around
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this target this demographic specifically, because I think that they
want to vote, they want to be courted and the
publican party should do that, you know, Carol, also on
the issue of transgender indoctrination and now even surgery for youth,
I do think that Republicans. Look, I just think this
is a critical moral issue. Is I think this is
about truly defending children and saving them from making life
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destroying decisions. Because there's a this is fashionable on the
left now, a lot of this stuff has become just
it's fashionable to push this and tell kids and you know,
change your pronouns and change your name, and you have
your breast cut off if you're female, all this stuff
that's going on. And one thing that I just find is,
on the one hand, you know, we'll see let's say,
like a drag queen story hour with children there and
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or drag show with children there, and the left will say, oh,
it's bigot it it's why you know, why why are
you pointing this out? This isn't rep And then a
few weeks later there's another one, and then there's how
hard is it for them to not do this? I mean,
it really does seem like whether it's pornographic books in
schools for children or highly inappropriate sexualized shows for children.
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The Left doesn't want to give this up. Yeah, I
fully agree. And the fact that they are having these
kids keep secrets and their parents, I think that would
be such a powerful line for parents to understand that
it's not just that your kid is using a different
pronoun in school, it's that they're encouraged to keep that
a secret from you. And I like, I've said this before,
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but you know, when in New York City, my teen,
you know, preteen daughter had so many kids in her
class declare themselves trends, it really was like a contagion,
and it was only happening among girls, and it was
happening at like, at such a clip that it couldn't
possibly be like, there just aren't this many trans people
in the world, let alone in one, you know, one
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sixth grade class. So I think that parents have to
be kind of more aware of what's happening in their
schools and what their rights are. And again, this could
be something that the Republican Party speaks to these parents about,
which I don't think that they're doing that great. I
think that they could say, like, you know, we all
want to be sympathetic to kids who feel, you know,
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the wrong that there was born on the wrong gender
or whatever. But the way that we handle this isn't
to let you know, secrets be kept from parents at school,
or to let them have hormones or any of this.
And I think that there's a great way to make
parents understand what the problem is. Carol. Buck's been making
fun of me for ten days now because I care
about the British Royal family and pay a lot of
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attention to all the drama and everything else, and you know,
ten million people watch the funeral. And he confessed that
his fiance is also in my camp and agrees that
all the palace intrigue is fantastic. Are you team Buck?
And that no one should care in America about the
Royal family or team Clay and that maybe you agree
with that, but you also desperately pay attention to all
of the drama. No, I don't pay attention to all
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of the drama. But the New York Post is obviously
pretty into the whole Royal family thing. It's a major
topic at the Post. So I read the post coverage.
You know, I didn't watch any of the funeral. I
lived in Scotland, which should maybe say that I, you know,
would be more interested in the royal family. But nobody
is less interested in the royal family the people. So
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I got to move to Scotland. Apparently Edinburgh is an
amazing town. Where did you live in Scotland in the north,
in a small town called Forest? Oh wow, I'm putting
you down in Camp and Team Clay on the Thanks
Carol Mark, what's New York Post? Go reader stuff? She's brilliant, Carol,
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Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck
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Strong as always, Thanks for hanging out with us. We're
doing very much. Appreciate it. We have a whole bunch
of things to get you. And I just realized we've
got great guests joining us during the show in just
a little bit. Our friend Carol Markowitz, who is the
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fierce mom defender of children from masking and vaxing, and
she is one of my one of my favorites from
here in New York City during the pandemic, who was saying,
this is crazy, stop the madness. Talk to her about
about that. Also the crime issue. I really think more
people need to be seeing this story. We won't get
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into it too much in detail now, but Clay, I
know you and I've talked about an offline. This lovely
young woman sitting in her car, car riddled with bullets
and baton rouge at Louisiana Senior at LSU just just
murdered and the car was shot many, many, many times.
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The police are completely at a loss for what could
what could have been going on here. Locals are reportedly
saying they think it was a gang initiation, which certainly
seems plausible. And law enforcement. Look, law enforcement in Louisiana
in general right now is understaffed, undermanned, underresourced, and undersupported
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politically with I mean, New Orleans is the highest we
just talked to, this highest murder rate in the nation,
which is it's just terrible. Me It's it's terrible when
any places has fallen into that category. But I I mean,
I know you feel the same way, Clay, New Orleans
is an amazing place. It's a beautiful, historically, super rich,
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culturally amazing city. I mean, even as a New Yorker,
I just think New Orleans is such a cool place.
And the fact that has had the crime situation. Anyway,
we'll talk Carol about about some of that here at
a moment, and then in the final hour of the program,
Clay Brian Morgan Stern will be with us. He is
the former White House Deputy Press Secretary, so he was
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the deputy under our friend Kaylee mckinety at the White
House under Trump. Brian's a very sharp guy and he's
got some stuff to tell everybody about what Fauci was
saying in the White House behind closed doors. This will
not come as a shock to this audience. But Fauci's
a huge fraud. He even mocked the stupidity of some
(02:35):
of the policies that he would then go out and
tell people make sense and everything. He is an egomaniac.
He is the world's most evil, narcissistic smurf. I mean,
all of that is true. Brian will give us a
little bit of a peek behind White House closed doors
on that one. But you and I both with the
history fights. They think they can control the past and
(02:58):
therefore control the president, rather control the narrative of the
past and use it to dictate the politics of this moment.
Huge example, this is obviously the sixteen nineteen project to
come up with what is essentially a new founding and
framework of this country rooted in, you know, the evils
and depression of America, and the only way to deal
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with this today is to put the people in charge
now who believe in the narrative of America as a
fundamentally wrought an evil, awful place. You see also the polling,
by the way about Democrats that I'm trying to remember
what the exact less than half of Democrats are proud
to be America, I mean. And the other scary part
(03:39):
was in the wake of Ukraine. If you remember Buck,
what percentage of Democrats would actually stay and defend the
country if it was invaded. Over half of Democrats would leave.
This is a stunning poll result. Again, if America were invaded,
would you stay in fight or flee? Over half of
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Democrats would flee. And the reason for this era of
Democrats is because they believe America is a rotten, awful place. Now,
most of these people have never actually gone anywhere else, right,
This is one of the advantages if we had some
sort of peace Corps requirement or even service requirement in
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this country for eighteen and nineteen year olds, if you
had to go to some third world countries and see
what it's actually like there, then you might come back
to America and say, hey, you know, it ain't perfect,
but we're getting an awful lot. Right. Unfortunately, most of
these people have no clue what the rest of the
world is like at all, and so they sit around
(04:39):
on their phones denigrating America with no understanding or comprehension
of larger world affairs. My advice always to younger young
people as somebody who got sent for work to a
number of places that were conflict zones I mean two
war zones and other places where their active insurgencies and
major counter terrorism operation underway because of al Qaeda and
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these different jehattest entities. And I spent my twenties basically
in that world dealing with that. You go to other
places and you come back to America and you want
to kiss the ground that this country was built on.
You you love, which is why so many people that
also come back and have done military service also have
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just a feeling for this country is incredible. I mean
it really and they went to fight because they know
it's incredible, and they come back and I think I
have a recognition. I mean, talk to any VET who
spend a lot of time in a rock or Afghanistan.
You come back to America, You're just like, this place
is phenomenal. And we bring all this up because you know,
and also we can hold in our heads two thoughts
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at the same time. America is the greatest country that
has ever existed. It's also got some problems that we
should address, and the Libs want to destroy it. I mean,
these are two things or two areas where you can
think about at the same time. But but fighting over
history is not It's not just an intellectual exercise. It's
important and making sure that we have a history that
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is in the proper context and people understand who did
what and when and how we got to this place
we're currently in. Someone who has not read I can
assure you anything substantial about the history of America. Is
mister Don Lemon the New Morning big promotion. You hear
this big promotion promotion to the Morning Show over at CNN.
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He was talking to the royal commentator Hillary Fordwitch. Is
she on your speed down? By the way? Clay and
you and Hillary chat about the rollary and I text
all the time. But at the latest drama Buck, I
was clicking to see what the lip readers were saying
about all the different royal interactions during the ceremony for
Queen Elizabeth. I got something. I got to admit. I mean,
(06:45):
I told her I was going to because I looked
at her less than I said. You know, at two,
Carrie she all in, She's like, She's like, look, I
gotta agree with Cray, with Clay, the royal intrigue is fascinating.
I was like, no, Tay, A million people watch the
funeral yesterday, which is basically unheard of, Like more people,
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I think watch the funeral than watch the Oscars to
kind of put it in context. And the people talk
about the Oscars a lot. And this was the tenth
day that I'll even be honest with you, this thing
didn't seem like it was ever going to end. And
so yeah, Carrie's like most you know, yeah, she's on
team play on this one. She's like, I think it's fascinating,
the intrigue, the drama of the pageantry and anyway, right,
(07:28):
bring it, bring it right into my house. I can't
believe it. But anyway, the Royal commentator Hilary fordwich Um,
when Don Lemon said that the Brits effectively should pay reparations,
here is her I think on it. Part of well,
we have two pieces of the thing. Let's start playing
the whole thing. Start with the goat. All of this
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wealth and you hear about it comes to England. It's
facing rising costs of living, a living crisis and a sterity,
budget cuts and so on. And then you have those
who are asking for reparations for colonialism and they're wondering,
you know, one hundred billion dollars, twenty four billion dollars
here and there, five hundred million there. Some people want
to be paid back, and members of the public are wondering,
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why are we suffering when you are you know, you
have all of this vast Well, those are legitimate concerns, now,
I know you. You and I are both like prize
fighters who want to get in the ring on this
right away because there's so much there, like who gets
the money, what's enough money, who pays for it? What
if you know, you know, like you have two ethnicities,
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you know you have one parent from the UK? Are
going to have a blood what analysis? Also, how about
the fact that lots of people are immigrants who arrived
who might be black post slavery, Right, so you are
let's say you're a Nigerian immigrant who's only been here
for twenty years, why would you get reparations for American
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related interest? And the large picture here which no one
ever discusses. And I hope we can start to inject
this into the discourse at least as every time this
comes up. America only had slavery the United States of
America for eighty years Okay, we from seventeen eighty three
to eighteen sixty three, only eighty years. But this is
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the British response. Ye Sots have their own history with
this and what she said in response to Don Lemon,
the Royal commentator dropping some truth bombs here. I think
you're right about reparations in terms of if people want it,
though what they need to do is you always need
to go back to the beginning of a supply chain.
Where was the beginning of the supply chain that was
in Africa and when that crossed the entire wall when
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the slavery was taking place. Which was the first nation
in the world that abolished slavery, first nation in the
world to bollish it. It It was started by William Wilberforce.
Was the British in Great Britain they abolished slavery. The
African kings were rounding up their own people. They had
them on cages waiting in the beaches. No one was
running into Africa to get them. And I think you're
totally right. Operations need to be paid. We need to
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go right back to the beginning of that supply chain
and say who was wounding up their own people on
having them handcuffed in pages. That's where they should stop.
I mean, that's it's a fascinating and important point she
makes here about how that you know, there's also it's
often not talked about, but there were there were minorities
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that what we think of as minority today who owned slaves.
Oh yeah, if you know, there were actually the slave trade,
the transatlantic slave trade, and also the the role that
Latin America played in it is something that that gets
very little little time and coverage in the media, for sure.
But Clay, I mean, just okay, so we're gonna start
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doing this like we have a Lleger Like, Okay, the Brits,
so they made responsible for x percentage, the x percentage,
Well where does this come in though with? Because she
also wanted to talk about the thousands of Brits who
died on the high seas to end slavery. So so
I want to know, I mean, it's it's something I've
asked before. So if I had ancestors who died fighting
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in the Civil War in the Civil War, do I
get like credit for that or how do we actually
do this? How do we deal with the fact that
what I mean, you would know you're this, you're the
Civil War buff total casualties in the Civil War were
I mean deaths in the hundreds of thousands. Six hundred thousand,
I believe is the number of Union soldiers who died.
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I think I'm correcting this off top of my head
during the Civil War. One of them was one of
my ancestors. I had, you know, northern and southern ancestors
who fought on both sides of that war. So yeah, So,
so how do we gauge what is the price in
blood that was paid to end slavery in the American
Civil War? And then how does that affect reparations? And
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I'm just wondering, you know, because she brings up, for example,
with the Brits, thousands of men never made it home
to their families to fight to end slavery on the
high seas. That was the only that was their role
in the British Navy, and they died in that pursuit.
So are they are they exempted from these reparations? And
also who do the reparations go to? Exactly yeah, no,
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And the reparation's argument is ridiculous. Six hundred and twenty
thousand total dead across Union and Confederate soldiers, So around
three hundred and sixty thousand Union deaths reported, two hundred
and fifty eight thousand Confederate deaths reported, so three hundred
and sixty thousand Northern soldiers died. Many people listening to
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us right now would have an ancestor who died in
the Civil War. I did certainly fighting on the side
of the North. Should there not be you know, well,
but ancestors died. Ancestors died, and huge numbers on both
sides of that conflict. And so you say that was
our nation paid a massive price in blood, by far
the most casualties we have ever suffered in any conflict. Okay,
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So how does that get factored? And this is why
eventually this is just it's very clear. This is about power.
This is about who gets to determine who gets what
now today, and it's certainly not about justice because what
does that even look like? It's true? And I just
love Don Lemon getting dunked on there because at the
end he was like, oh, that's interesting, Like he didn't't
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even have a response to her historical knowledge. And what
I appreciate her bringing up is no one ever mentions
the fact that the people in Africa were initially enslaved
by other African kings and then were sold to the
people who engaged in the slave trade. But the slavery
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started in Africa, and no one ever wants to talk
about that responsibility at all in the overall global slave marketplace.
And do we get I'm just wanting, do we get
any extra credit for those of us who had ancestors
who fought to prevent the world from being enslaved by
the Nazis? You know, it seems like kind of a
big deal. I think that's kind of a big deal too,
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you know, So do we get do we get credit
for that? Or is it just no, it's all oh okay, yeah,
I think everyone seeing here you can you get like
a little different checkboxes along the way to find out
how much responsibility you actually have. I mean, and this
is the other part of it too. I mean I
wonder for people who have who have, you know, a
mixed ethnic heritage, So do they get the check but
then they have to send the check back? Or how
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does how does that work? If you're doing reparations from
the British Empire from five hundred years ago? You know
what I mean, it doesn't make it's totally absurdly illogical.
And also it doesn't even consider that the entire rationale
for affirmative action, which has now existed for seventy some
odd years in this country, almost was predicated on what
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Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. We are
joined now by Brian Morgan Stern. We were just talking
about the hipocrisy out there from our good friend doctor Fauci,
and Brian has got a great book out. He was
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Vignettes and Vino Dinner Table Stories from the Trump White
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house with the recipes and cocktail pairings behind the scenes. Brian,
I read this and I was like, it doesn't surprise
me at all. Doctor Fauci actually mocked the stupidity of
restaurant restrictions where you had to wear a mask until
you sat down at your table. Yes, Clay and Buck,
it's great to be with you, and yes, of course
he did. My blood was boiling because everyone was suffering
(17:03):
from pandemic restrictions, and of course people would walk into
a restaurant wearing a mask and then sit down at
the table and have a conversation and a whole meal
with no mask on. Anyone was common sense knows that
that was ridiculous, including Fauchi, because I was in a
meeting with him when he commented on that and laughed
about how ridiculous it was. But of course he wouldn't
(17:25):
then go out and tell the people that some of
the restrictions were ridiculous. He would just kind of laugh
behind their backs, including at his own comment about wearing
goggles and multiple masks, which he made on television after
of course, he was against masks before he was for them,
and then when he was for them, he was for
multiple masks and goggles, and behind the scenes he was
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laughing about how ridiculous his own comments were and how
he could really just get everybody to believe anything this
guy said, but he was wrong about everything over the
course of the pandemic. The media painted this guy to
be America's doctor, But speaking for myself, I don't want
him to be my personal doctor, let alone the country's doctor,
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because he was wrong about every major thing throughout the pandemic. So, Brian,
it's bucket. You were obviously deput Press Secretary Trump White House.
You're there in the early stages the pandemic. All the
stuff is going on. For me, the original sin of
Fauciism was the flip flop on masks. Right, he initially
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is going, look, masks doesn't really do anything and might
make people feel better, and then all of a sudden,
it's just they're all these mask policies going in all
across the country, the federal mask mandate on planes. Was
there an awareness in the White House of that Foucci switch? Like,
how did that actually come to be? And I also
want to ask you, we were I was told, I
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was told who wasn't a senior White House official cameramer
who was now who actually claimed that doctor Burkes was
as bad as Fauci on the duplicity and all this stuff.
So I wanted to tackle both of those. So there
was a sense that Fauchi and Burkes both actually were
really airing on the side of caution. That is the
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understatement of the century in terms of advocating for restrictive policies.
And Scott Atlas, remember President Trump brought him onto the
task force. He was the kind of voice who would say,
the cure can't be worse than the disease. There was
an atmosphere in the country that COVID was this unknown
silent killer, and so we should be safe rather than sorry,
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and so the kind of voices of caution went out
at that time. We knew that Fauci and Births liked
to get a lot of attention, and in order to
get a lot of attention, they had to scare people,
and so they did that a lot. The sort of
fine line we had to walk was let people know
that President Trump was taking the pandemic seriously, but again
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that the cure can't be worse than the disease. I
don't know if that kind of answered both of your
questions in one statement, but I'm happy to take another
swing at it. Yeah, Brian, Obviously we know Fauci is
a fraud, and we've been frustrated with him on this
program for the entire length of the time that we've
been on the air together, and before that, and we
had solo shows. We were super frustrated with him. What
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was his overall What was the overall vibe of Fauci
behind the scenes in the White House, in other words,
how much you've told us that he would say things
privately which were very different than what he would say publicly.
How much of a difference was there in Fauci in
public in private in general. So he was the joke
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that we used to tell what was We would referred
to him as Saint Anthony because of how he was
portrayed in the media. But what we had learned in
dealing with him was that he was really an egomaniac
who was wrong a lot, and that's very dangerous about
science in medicine. Of course, he was wrong about the
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severity of the virus early on, he said it was
not something people should worry about. He was before four
Masks or against masks, before he was for them, he
said vaccines could not possibly be created in less than
eighteen months. Now we created them in nine months. He
can argue about the efficacy, but the process was nine months.
He was wrong by exactly one hundred percent. He said
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he was wrong about when President Trump should be vaccinated
because he had already had COVID. I mean, I can
go on and on, but he was not an easy
person to deal with. Of course, he's the only person
I ever encountered to use the term latinics un ironically
when he would always talk about the vaccine studies that
we got to get more Latinics in the study, you
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got to have more Latini. That's actually a promfect example
of how left wing he is too. By the way,
it's also pretty good Faucci that Brian pull there. I'm feeling,
you know, Brian's give the pressure putting a competition, so Brian,
so Faucci was obviously, I mean, I joke around with people,
but I'm not really that joking that. I don't think
anyone thinks Fauci's worse than I do. Did Trump figure
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this out? Like? I mean, this is because right now,
you know, we support the big guy and he there
are a lot of things that he did that were fantastic,
but he says, I did the opposite of everything Fauci
told me to do. Unfortunately that's not true. At what
point did Faucci did Trump rather realize this guy's meaning
Faucci is a problem. So there were comments that President
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Trump made that I think it leaked out. I think
he was making them on a teletown hall to some
donors at the time, if my memory served, and he
basically articulated the position that most of us had at
that time from a purely sort of campaign public relations standpoint,
and again walking that fine line of taking the virus
seriously but also trying to do the right thing for
the people and not having the sure worse than the disease.
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The President said, I'm basically stuck between a rock and
a hard place, and paraphrasing, he said, if I fire
the guy, I pull him off TV, I take him away,
then all of a sudden, there's this huge bomb that
comes out about how I'm not trusting the science and
all of this, Whereas if I just kind of let
him run his mouth, but then I also say my opinion,
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you know, at least it's kind of equal. Basically, he said,
we're gonna have bombs thrown at us either way. So
sometimes in life you only have bad choices, and I
would say that the way Fauci was propped up by
the Democrats and the media left President Trump with only
bad choices. It's either let him run his mouth and
also counter him, or fire him and have one giant
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explosion all at once. Brian, do you think Trump's gonna
run again? And how much do you think, obviously the
sort of legal troubles surrounding him impact whether he's going
to run again or not. So I would say, given
what I've observed since the White House, he has involved
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at every level, he's got the most powerful endorsement, he's
still doing rallies, it seems to me more likely than
not Trump runs. He also wants to counter those who
are out to get him by saying, you know, this
is for political purposes. I think they're actually sort of
baiting him into running. I think it's more likely than not.
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The other side of the coin, which I think is
again less than fifty percent, would be He says, you
know what, I'm having so much fun doing live golf.
I'm having so much fun in the private sector, just
kind of being a kingmaker living in paradise at Marlago.
Why would I get back into politics. It's such a
nasty business. So I think he's weighing those things, but
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I would say more than fifty percent. I think he runs. Brian.
Your book Vignettes and Veno Dinner Table Stories from the
Trump White House with recipes and cocktail parags. Quite a
cocktail book. Tell me a cocktail table book, I mean,
and tell me a bit about to either give me
a story, a recipe or a cocktail pairing that forty
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five himself would approve of. Oh my gosh, well okay,
so first recipe. You know, we all know he likes
a nicely charred steak. Oh my gosh, you went to
well done steak, Briant to dump this audio, go ahead.
My steak recipe is not that, okay. It is a
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steak sandwich recipe that my wife came up with that
is thinly sliced, well seasoned. It's got a delicious garlic
aoli on it served on I think we have it
on shibbada with a rugla on there. It's absolutely delicious.
It's an honor of a story of when I was
with President Trump in Bedminster and of course they make
his favorite steak in Bedminster. I would say story, my
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h my first week at the White House was something
I dealt with with Fauci. He got himself invited to
throw out the first pitch for Major League Baseball when
we were going to have President Trump throw at the
first pitch, but before they could announce it, Fauci, whose
friends with the Washington Nationals owners, got himself invited. So
we had to come up with an alternate event, which
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actually worked out great because we had Marianna Rivera with
some little leaguers, and we had ESPN and Barstool Sports
there and it was like a total home run of
a day. Sorry for the metaphor, it was absolutely outstanding.
And the poetic justice is that when Fauchi threw out
the first pitch, other than Carle Ray Jepson's, it was
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the worst first pitch ever thrown. He based stole the
first pitch honors from Trump. Wow. Yes, So our staff
was in Tiansag with Major League Baseball. They were going
to have President Trump throughout the first pitch. Before there
was any announcement, Fauchi and the Nats conspired to get
Fauchi invited instead, and they put the announcement out before
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the White House in major league. Wow. I mean that's
a great story. I didn't know that. Thank you for Yeah.
I mean that's insane, that's absolutely ridiculous. Thank you Brian.
The book, obviously, we'd encourage people to check it out.
Then Yet's and Vino dinner Table Stories from the Trump
White House, our friend Brian Morganster and Brian Goold to
talk to you, buddy, you guys, thanks for having me on.
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and Buck Sexton Show. COVID is over. Oh no wait,
Biden said it's over, But now they're telling us it's
not over. His handlers just distracted by all the cars,
Troy shiny cars at the car shows. That's what they
were telling us. Who runs the country nobody really knows,
doesn't matter a bunch of libs. But as COVID actually Overwell,
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it is, and it's not. It's actually the answer. It's
over to rational, reasonable people. But there are still restrictions
out there. They just fired eight hundred and fifty teachers
in New York City for not getting a COVID shot
that the private sector no longer has to worry about
starting I think November. Who can make sense of all this? Oh?
I know our friend Carol Markowitz from the New York
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Post where she's an opinion columnist. She's got a piece
out continuing COVID craziness. Shows it was never about the science, Carol, No,
it was not. Tell everybody how we know this now
more than ever. Hi, guys, you know how many of
these pieces have I written and have been on to discuss,
and yet we're still in this insanity in so many
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of these places. It's September twenty twenty two, and yesterday
in New York City lifted its private vaccine mandate, the
vaccine mandate that was for private companies, and the rest
of the country is like, wait, they had a vaccine
mandate for private companies. It's such a baffling and backwards
way of living, and it's so disappoints me that more
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New Yorkers don't speak up about it, Carol, do you
You're in Florida now, and obviously the news today about
Trump and the criminal civil charges, but the fact that
there's still criminal allegations pending. In everything else, the Santis
is going to win comfortably in forty eight days reelection
in Florida. Most Floridians that you talk to want the
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Santis to run for president or they want him to
stay as governor. So it's interesting because I think that
Floridians have a completely different consideration. It's not so much
the Trump de Santis thing down here, it's the can
we lose our governor? So it's it's like in the
rest of the country, I feel like the conservative question
(31:00):
is which of these two guys do we want? Whereas
in Florida, it's like, wait, we really don't want to
lose our governor, even though everybody kind of think he
would make an amazing presidential candidate. So ultimately, yeah, I
think people like him and want him entire office. I
think they're concerned about what happens to their state. It's
a really kind of perilous time, they feel, and it
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can go either way, Like the state has been trending
red and it's been pretty deep read in the last
few years. But you know, anything can happen. This hand
is only won by a very small marginal last time,
so a lot of affection for the governor. I would
stay down here. We're speaking to Carol mark Whitz, New
York Post columnist Carol. Crime is one of the big
issues that Democrats know. They got a real problem with
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the public because the crime numbers are terrible. And when
you look at this as as an increase, you know,
people say, oh, it was worse than the nineties. Yeah,
well that was thirty years ago. So when you look
at a not just a thirty or forty fifty percent increase,
someplace have had shootings, homicides increase one hundred percent, one
hundred and fifty percent. But but you share this story,
(32:08):
I'd know it was written I think by somebody else
about the Park Slope panthers. Can you just tell everybody
a little bit about about the park because you used
to live in Park Slope in New York City? What
do people need to know about this? This neighborhood watch
group that apparently couldn't get past whether to call people
crazy or neurodivergent when they were growing bottles and old ladies.
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So park Slope is an insane place, but for a
long time it was a really beautiful, very very safe
place to be. And the growing up in New York City,
park Slope was a dream, especially for somebody growing up
in Brooklyn. It was actually the dream. But what's happened
in the last few years is it's gone from liberal
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to leftist and it has really lost the plot. This story,
by Susie Weiss on Barry White's Common Sense page was
about a group that had formed because a homeless person
had killed somebody's dog, and that finally moved Parkslopers to say,
we have to start taking this crime thing more seriously.
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It's finally here. It's happening now. And I know a
side note to this. In twenty twenty, when people were saying, oh,
crime is getting bad, all the people in Parkslope were saying,
that's very racist. You say, actually, and we shouldn't be
talking about crime getting bad because you know, and so
it wasn't really affecting them, but now it is. And
this group formed and it's a hilarious story. It really
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made my day. It was so funny and so well written.
I don't know that it was supposed to be funny necessarily,
but it was amazing and how these teenagers came up
to them and said that they should be checking their privilege.
And of course these teenagers live in Parkslope, grew up
in Parkslope, are the most privileged people possible, etc. Highly
recommend the story, So, Carol, in twenty twenty one, suburban
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moms said we've had and they went and they got
Glenn Yunkin elected in Virginia and nearly flipped New Jersey.
I mean, that's how much of a red wave we
saw in that first year after the Biden administration. What
do you think we're going to see in forty eight days?
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How are those suburban moms going to react? How much
did abortion change the political calculus in your mind in
terms of those suburban mom decisions. And the reason why
I'm pointing out suburban moms in particular is there's lots
of people who know, we know how they're going to vote.
That was the sort of the impetus, the charge that
changed things in twenty one. How are these moms going
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to vote? In your mind in twenty two. I still
think that that demographic is fired up and really wants
to go to the ballot box and punish the people
who had kept schools closed for as long as they did,
kept their kids masks for as long as they did,
kept them in the vaccine mandates for as long as
they did. I think that that demographic block is still
very significant. The problem is I don't see Republican candidates
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speaking to that block in the same way that Glenyonkin did.
Glen Yonkin made himself the education guy, and that is
so powerful. It's not just these issues that we're dealing
with right now. Education on so many different levels has
just collapsed in cities all across the country. And I
think that that candidates that can speak to these concerns,
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collapsing standards, merit removal of merit based anything, all of
this is very important to parents, and I just don't
see the same kind of Republican contact to these people.
I think that a lot of these people are still
fired up on their own, but it would be best
if the Republican Party could maybe craft some messaging around
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this target this demographic specifically, because I think that they
want to vote, they want to be courted and the
publican party should do that, you know, Carol, also on
the issue of transgender indoctrination and now even surgery for youth,
I do think that Republicans. Look, I just think this
is a critical moral issue. Is I think this is
about truly defending children and saving them from making life
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destroying decisions. Because there's a this is fashionable on the
left now, a lot of this stuff has become just
it's fashionable to push this and tell kids and you know,
change your pronouns and change your name, and you have
your breast cut off if you're female, all this stuff
that's going on. And one thing that I just find is,
on the one hand, you know, we'll see let's say,
like a drag queen story hour with children there and
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or drag show with children there, and the left will say, oh,
it's bigot it it's why you know, why why are
you pointing this out? This isn't rep And then a
few weeks later there's another one, and then there's how
hard is it for them to not do this? I mean,
it really does seem like whether it's pornographic books in
schools for children or highly inappropriate sexualized shows for children.
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The Left doesn't want to give this up. Yeah, I
fully agree. And the fact that they are having these
kids keep secrets and their parents, I think that would
be such a powerful line for parents to understand that
it's not just that your kid is using a different
pronoun in school, it's that they're encouraged to keep that
a secret from you. And I like, I've said this before,
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but you know, when in New York City, my teen,
you know, preteen daughter had so many kids in her
class declare themselves trends, it really was like a contagion,
and it was only happening among girls, and it was
happening at like, at such a clip that it couldn't
possibly be like, there just aren't this many trans people
in the world, let alone in one, you know, one
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sixth grade class. So I think that parents have to
be kind of more aware of what's happening in their
schools and what their rights are. And again, this could
be something that the Republican Party speaks to these parents about,
which I don't think that they're doing that great. I
think that they could say, like, you know, we all
want to be sympathetic to kids who feel, you know,
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the wrong that there was born on the wrong gender
or whatever. But the way that we handle this isn't
to let you know, secrets be kept from parents at school,
or to let them have hormones or any of this.
And I think that there's a great way to make
parents understand what the problem is. Carol. Buck's been making
fun of me for ten days now because I care
about the British Royal family and pay a lot of
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attention to all the drama and everything else, and you know,
ten million people watch the funeral. And he confessed that
his fiance is also in my camp and agrees that
all the palace intrigue is fantastic. Are you team Buck?
And that no one should care in America about the
Royal family or team Clay and that maybe you agree
with that, but you also desperately pay attention to all
of the drama. No, I don't pay attention to all
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of the drama. But the New York Post is obviously
pretty into the whole Royal family thing. It's a major
topic at the Post. So I read the post coverage.
You know, I didn't watch any of the funeral. I
lived in Scotland, which should maybe say that I, you know,
would be more interested in the royal family. But nobody
is less interested in the royal family the people. So
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I got to move to Scotland. Apparently Edinburgh is an
amazing town. Where did you live in Scotland in the north,
in a small town called Forest? Oh wow, I'm putting
you down in Camp and Team Clay on the Thanks
Carol Mark, what's New York Post? Go reader stuff? She's brilliant, Carol,
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