January 23, 2023 • 53 mins
Drip, Drip, Drip of Incompetence. Violence is Violence. Only the Left Can Feel "Unsafe." How to Secure Your Job.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast. Welcome and everybody to the Monday edition
of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. We have
a lot to talk to you all about. Thank you
for being here with us. Over the weekend, you had
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a protest that turned into a riot. An individual was
killed after shooting at Georgia State Patrol officers. The media
was saying it was a mostly peaceful protest despite the
fact there was bullets. There were bullets flying at police officers.
There were there were incendiary devices basically bombs found on
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some of them, all over what was supposed to be
a training facility for law enforcement. So that's where we
are with that. We also have Mayor Eric Adams Clay
some speculation he could be planning white house run after
raising enormous amounts of money and just a day one
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point two seven million dollars one year into his first term.
We'll discuss that in a little bit, but I wanted
to start us. Oh, and there was a mass shooting
in Los Angeles, a horrific shooting over the weekend, and
because of the perpetrator, who has already taken his own life.
Democrats have very quickly changed the story, changed their view
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of whether this is something we have to talk about
or not. But let's start with this, Clay, because this
is just the truth everybody. I actually was one behind.
I'm trying to keep track of how many of how
many times they find classified information in Joe Biden's possession,
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illegally meeting out a place that is unsecured, just for
all the libs in the media out there who they
can't They don't know the rules, they know the law,
they don't like to read. They just want to kind
of be on camera or put ary stuff on Twitter.
It's a huge violation of classified handling protocols. I thought
it was four, Clay. You think we're on five now, right.
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I actually can't even take it into You have to
go back and look at the various iterations of this.
There's also a new White House Chief of Staff incoming,
which I think is interesting. Who was the COVID czar
under Biden. But let's start, if we can, at what
point is yet another batch of classified found. Remember this
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is not willfully taken by a president, kept in secure storage,
under surveillance in one location. This is a non president
vice president who does not have declassification authority taking this
stuff home like he's reading Car and Driver over the
weekend and literally leaving it in the garage. At what
point has this become a true political liability? At what
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point is it no longer possible for them to keep
the defense of all things Biden going. I think it's
there and for people over the weekend, And I understand
how you could miss it, because when I saw it,
I just kind of rolled my eyes. They have officially
had to call in the Department of Justice. And what
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I would say, maybe we can get our friend Andrew
McCarthy on later this week, because I'd be curious how
he would analyze this. But my thought is, when you
bring in the FBI and the Department of Justice, it's
probably them saying, if you don't let us do this,
we're gonna have to go get a warrant and do
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this search on our own. And so they allowed it
to happen with their attorneys still present. But yeah, Buck,
this is now the fifth different time that they have
had to announce that they have found classified documents. And
remember when this began, My question for you was it
felt like a cluster because every one of these drip
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drip drip stories as embarrassing. But if the White House
had been able to control this, and they had said, hey,
we in the wake of the Donald Trump incident, decided
to undergo an exhaustive search of all of Joe Biden's
private files and private papers, and we have found several
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different documents with classified markings on them and have turned
them over to the National Archives. And they had told
that story once, and they had said, hey, we looked
at every possible residence, every possible location. We did a
deep search for classified documents, just to make sure that
we were complying. It would have been a mess, but
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it wouldn't have been the mess that this is turned into.
And Buck, you mentioned what I think is so significant here.
They made a big argument not only that Trump had
these documents, but that they weren't secured. Do you remember
the front page New York Times story within a few
feet of where everyone partied, Donald Trump had classified documents
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as if and they had to map up to show
people Mara Lago and where the classified documents were and
what a security risk it was. And you and I
came on and we said, look in order to move
around the Mara Lago property at all. You have to
be wanted, you have to be vetted to even enter
onto that property. When you come in, they want your name,
they want your births to you know, your driver's license number,
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everything else to even allow you access to that premises
in the first place. And so when they initially reported these,
they had all the Biden defenders come out and say, well,
this is totally different. This is how you're going to
supposed to handle it. And then they had the corvette
and the classified documents by it, and they just continued
this drip drip drip of incompetence, and in the process,
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I think they've cut a lot of people's legs off.
And Buck, you mentioned the idea that Eric Adams might
run as a as the mayor of New York City
for president. Joe Mansion came out and said he might
run for president. Now, that would be an easy way
for him to potentially avoid having to run for reelection
in West Virginia and make it look like his choice,
because then he runs for president and if he fails,
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which I think he would at least, that's kind of
like him riding off into the sunset and declaring independence
from the Democrats. However you want to classify it. But
I think increasingly it's becoming likely that somebody with resources
is going to challenge Biden. I would still be very
surprised if Biden isn't going to run. But I think
this classified document scandal, the decision by his chief of staff,
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who we talked about, ron Klain for a long time,
to step down and no longer be managing this White House,
it feels to me like Biden is a drift at
sea a bit, and there is going to be a challenger.
And I think that challenger may well emerge in the
next month or two, and then we'll see how serious
that challenge is going to be. I also think it's
noteworthy because we often say here on the show Clay
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that not only have they refused to punish the people
who got COVID so wrong, I mean, I mean, I
just mean professionally, never mind whether there should be any
section beyond that, but you know, fired like I think
people should lose their jobs over being wrong and also
horrifyingly wrong on all things COVID. But the incoming White
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House chief of staff, I want I want everyone to
hear this This is Jeff Zenz. Is that how you
say it? I don't sure how you pronounced his name.
I thought I was hoping you were gonna know. Yeah,
you know, I take a stab at it. Jeff Zenz.
This was him in December of twenty twenty one. This
is not, you know, ancient history. Here is him weighing in.
He was the covid tzar for Biden, not a very
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prominent one in terms of the media coverage, and here
he is letting you know what he thinks of well
a lot of you play clip one. We are intent
on not letting Amicron disrupt work in school. For the vaccinated,
you've done the right thing and we will get through this.
For the unvaccinated, you're looking at a winter of severe
illness and death for yourselves, your families, and the hospitals
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you may soon overwhelm. For the unvaccinated. Basically, you're all
gonna die or you're gonna kill people, and you're gonna
overwhelm hospitals and your monsters. This guy should be begging
the guy yeah, sorry, what No, I was just gonna say.
This was the guy who conveyed the winner of death argument,
which is maybe the worst possible statement of all that
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Joe Biden put out. And like you said, he's getting
promoted and he is being elevated. So in case anyone's
wondering what they do when they get everything wrong and
they buy all objective standards, should be ashamed of themselves.
It's promotion time in the Biden White House. That's how
they operate over there. Because he was a soldier for
the cause of the left, and the fact that he
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said all this stuff that's obviously untrue and as never,
how is it that no one of the press has
pushed him on this. Why isn't he being asked at
the first opportunity, Hey, you said that hospitals will be
over overrun with the unvaccinated. In fact, the vaccination didn't
stop hospital levels from going to exactly what they would
have been without the vaccine. The thing didn't even work.
So how about that he's gonna be White House chief
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of staff, which I would I would note, you know,
Clay if Ron Klaine was the de facto president or whatever.
People argue, does that mean that Jeff Ziens I believe
I've been told is how you pronounced this? Does that
mean that Jeff is now the chief behind the scenes
guy making decisions for Biden, who at this point, given
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the fact that there's classified in five different batches of
this have now been found, Okay, they're now thinking about
looking I believe at the Rohoboth Beach house. Right, Isn't
that the latest? As it is tough to keep it
all together because they keep saying, oh, we found it all,
it's over, it's good, we're cooperating. But this is the
last of it. Five times it's not the last of it.
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And I wonder when the shift to not only do
we have to search all of Joe Biden's properties. This
is where the Hunter Biden connection can come in, because
I wonder how long it's going to be until they say, okay,
let's start to search some of the Biden family members
who had access potentially to these classified documents. And I'll
also note that unlike with the Trump investigation, where the
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FBI took all the photos of the classified documents a
raid on the floor, the FBI, to my knowledge, didn't
take any pictures of the classified documents inside Joe Biden's
house that they took possession of, so that propaganda aspect
has not occurred. Also, we haven't had any leaks really
about any of the details surrounding. It didn't take very
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long for the Washington Post to come out and say, oh,
these were extremely sensitive documents. They involved potentially the nuclear codes. Well,
all we've gotten is kind of a generic sense. They
said one involved Ukraine, ran and England. I think on
the initial pen Biden document discovery, we haven't heard anything
about the document since Why would he bring these home?
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This is another question I'm wondering. And if you did
the Senate, a lot of the senators buck have said
you couldn't ever take stuff out of the Senate and
be able to get this at you know, home. Well,
I mean it's illegal, right, and so that's why you wonder. Okay,
even if Biden has a skiff, a secure compartmented information facility,
which is where you are allowed to have classified and
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for example, you know a president, the president goes to
Camp David, Like, there's a skiff at Camp David, right,
I mean, when when you're talking about that level of
government official, Uh, there are there are places where they
where they go outside of the standard you know, the
White House, the Pentagon where you can have classified information.
But even if that were the case, why why would
he have left it? Or or you know, why would
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he have left those those areas? With this, there is
clear this is what I'm getting to recklessness here, And
I think that the way that they could honestly defend
against the recklessness, I think the way they could do
that would be to say that Biden is really old
and has made some as cognition is challenged and was
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challenging even when he was vice president. But they can't
make that argument because they're going to try to make
this guy president for four more years. I think it's likely,
And so they're left with what exactly Now you've noticed
there's these the move has now become clay that tepid. Well,
this is not entirely responsible. I am not super proud
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of Biden's head, like they've sort of done a little
bit of this, you know what I mean, But they're
just hoping that the storm passes. I'm not so sure
it's an easy thing for him to pack. Legally, they're
gonna make this thing go away. From that, I'm very
confident of. But politically this looks bad. Now. This has
gone from like, oh, doesn't everyone make mistakes? To Joe
Biden's a reckless clown. Yeah, and that's why I think
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he's gonna have a challenger. Now I'm not sure who
that challenger is, who's going to step in the ring
with him, but I think ultimately Buck, when some of
this data comes out, what we're going to see is that,
for instance, the Senate classified documents were things that Joe
Biden felt entitled to keep, in other words, almost memorabilia,
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in the same way that a lot of the dispute
over what Trump kept seems to be rooted in, hey,
this is my property. This is memorabilia from my time
as president that Kim Jong Hoon letters are a great
example of that. He thought that those were his possession.
And I think that you're going to find out that
Joe Biden had a very similar way of thinking. That's
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the only thing that can make sense to me about
how he could end up with classified documents from all
the way back to his Senate career. And then you
have to wonder how did he travel with these? Was
he carrying them on the train, you know, in his
briefcase back up to Delaware, which is the usual way
that Joe Biden would have traveled. How did the vice
president makes a little bit more sense because they're packing
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up the office in a hurry. The Senate classified documents
to me is much more challenging to explain away and again,
to me, it emboldened somebody who could be a challenger,
whether Joe Manchin, whether it's Eric Adams. He might get
challenged on both flanks, Buck, which would be interesting. Joe
Man the last time we had a real chal right,
when was the last time we had a real challenge
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to an incumbent president from his own party? Clay gotta go.
I mean, I think you'd almost have to go back
to what George w George hw Bush, right, I mean,
when he got challenged by Pat mccannon in back in
nineteen eighty eight. I think it was if I remember correctly,
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Over the weekend, some violence breaking out in the Atlanta area.
A riot. That's It's interesting when a riot starts starts
off as a protest. The Democrats involved around this in
the media will say it is a peaceful protest that
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turned into something else. Some protests get the benefit of
the doubt. Others, obviously are the biggest threat to our
democracy since you know, Pearl Harbor or whatever. But I
want to tell you about this, this ride that occurred
over the weekend. So there's something in the Atlanta area
that activists or it's the Atlanta Police Department training facility
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that's being built, which these leftists are calling cop City.
So there was a group and it was clay over
the weekend. I was trying to dive into all this.
A group that called themselves the Forest Defenders, who were
showing up and engaging in destructive and criminal acts. They
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were sabotaging things and because they didn't want cop City
as they call it, to be built, because they thought
that this is just the enshrining of the police date
or something. It's fascinating, isn't it. The activists say they
want just better training for police and de escalation, and
you're going to build this law multidisciplinary law enforcement training
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facility to do that kind of stuff, de escalation, non
lethal whatever. And then the leftists are saying, oh, but
it's gonna take too many trees and the environmental impact
and the enshrining of police because they're lunatics. But the
Democrats in the media all have a lot of sympathy
for this and for this movement, but this was particularly
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this is particularly egregious. There was a lethal shooting here.
Law enforcement involves shooting of a protester who opened fire
on a Georgia State Patrol trooper. Yea, So one of
these forest defender lunatics pulls a gun and start shooting
at Georgia State basically Georgia State Police. Right, Georgia State
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Police returns fire and kills him and then other forest defenders.
These are all Biden voters. By the way, leftists decide
that they're going to burn down you know, they burned
a police vehicle and they're they're destroying things and engaging
in a riot, and somehow we're supposed to think that
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this is peaceful protests that just got a little out
of hand. The whole thing is lunatic stuff. Yeah, and
if you haven't seen the videos, definitely worth watching the videos.
Buck they arrested six Antifa it appears activist right in
some way these groups are connected. All six were from
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outside of Atlanta. I believe five were from out of state.
One was from Decatur, Georgia, which is a suburb basically
of Atlanta. The other five I believe we're from out
of state, all white people. So I just want to
point this out. You have out of state rioters that
are showing up in Atlanta and are burning, looting, pillaging,
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engaging in violent behavior. And on CNN, which has a
substantial footprint in Atlanta, they have a spokesperson go on
air and basically say, oh yeah, I mean, you know,
it's a cliche because we've had to go through this
so many times, but the amount of time that they
say this is, you know, essentially mostly peaceful protests. We have. Actually,
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we have a journalist on CNN here saying, let's not
remember they marched because they were outraged that a leftist
pulled the gun and started firing at cops and they
fired back and killed him. So they're outraged that that happened.
And then they're marching in Atlanta and they decide that
a group of them, as you said, six have been
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arrested basically Antiphamaniacs, their domestic terrorists, everybody, that's actually what
they are. Let's just use the proper terminology, which you
won't hear that on MSNBC or CNN. They start smashing things,
destroying property and lighting a police car on fire. And
this is what they're saying over at CNN, is this
is all happening? Play seven. I think that there's a
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real blurring of the lines in the use of the
word violence. Is property destruction violence to some people? It
certainly is. But you know this idea that breaking windows
or other acts of property destruction are the same as
actual violence against humans, It's kind of a dangerous and
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slippery concept, you know, you keep using these words violent, violent, violent, violent.
The only acts of violence against people that I saw
were actually police tackling protesters. Okay, okay, so this is fascinating.
This is the this is on CNN's air or whatever.
You hear that the only violence. Now he leaves out
the violence of the maniac shooting at and trying to
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murder police officers, which then spurred this whole protest on
the streets. But the whole point of the property destruction
is yes, economic pain, but it's also clay meant to intimidate.
You could argue you by this guy's same logic. Hey,
I just went into a bank and held a gun
up and said fill my bag full of money. I
didn't hurt anybody, right, The impression or the belief that
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violence is imminent is also something that has to be police.
When you're lighting car, when you're throwing things and lighting
cars on fire, I think people are right to think
that's unsafe. You are threatening my physical safety as well
as destroying property. When a police car is burning, that
is the essence of violence. So the argument of oh,
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it's just property, no, no, no, When you burn a
police cruiser, that is violent behavior. And to the credit
of the it's a newly elected mayor of Atlanta. He's
been in this office relatively short period of time, Andre Dickens.
He replaced Kesha Lance Bottoms, who I believe is in
the Biden administration now, and she was fired up about
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all the crime related but just decided not to run. Really,
the mayor race in Atlanta turned on who could stamp
down on violent crime the most. And I think this
is interesting that the mayor of Atlanta pointed out that
these violent protesters were from outside of Atlanta and came
to the city of Atlanta. Again, Atlanta is a majority
black city. We have six white antifoot protesters arrested committing
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acts of violence. The mayor wasn't standing for it. Listen,
they had a protest last night and it was peaceful,
but there were some individuals within that crowd that meant violence.
They had explosives, they burned down a police car, they
broke windows, have businesses, and so our police department, along
with our state and federal partners, took swift action within
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two blocks and brought that situation under control and the
violent stop, and those six individuals were arrested. And it
should be noted that these individuals were not Atlanta or
Georgia residents. Most of them traveled into our city to
reach heavy Now he's saying some of the right things here,
and that's why you're pitching, which is a change, right
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from a big city mayor for a change finally saying,
we got to stamp this out. All of the all
of the leftists out there, they're running out of excuses
and explanations for why whenever people do what the anti
police left wants, everyone is less safe. There's more violence
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and destruction, and there's urban decay and the whole thing
turns into a mess. They're running out of ways to
explain to people. Yeah, enforcing the law less and deciding
that you're going to use social justice instead of criminal
justice for police departments. This isn't gonna work anymore and
more and more players of seeing this. Actually you bring
this up New Orleans, which has the highest per capita
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murder rate of any major city, which is so I mean,
I know you agree with I love New Orleans. I
think it's one of the coolest, best towns in the
whole country. It's a top ten city for me in America.
I love it. Are too violent right now, obviously, far
too much violence going on in that city. Mayor LaToya
Cantrell spoke about it and said some stuff that is
on the right track. Listen to this play ten. New
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Orleans has the highest per capita murder rate of any
major city. Why. Why is because one dealing with COVID
nineteen violence, everyone has guns, the lack of the ability
to resolve a conflict without reaching and pulling a gun. Also,
as it relates to accountability, you know, low lining offenses,
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you know when they don't get bail or they're not restrained.
Then we're just saying how these crimes escalate. People need
to be held accountable across the board. Click. Can I
just say so? Obviously the first thing you said about
COVID is preposterous, but that's been a Democrat talking point
for a long time now to try to cover up
the decay of the of these Democrat controlled cities. I think, though,
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this is part of what you're going to see this
this slow shift. Oh it's about you know, COVID or
police training or whatever. But she uses this word accountability.
What that really means is locking up criminals and enforcing
the law. The inescapable truth that even Democrats are not
having to face is you have to lock up criminals,
you have to enforce the law or else. Not only
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does this stay, it gets worse. And that's where we are.
And they're also slowly having to come to the grips
with the fact that this is all George Floyd protest related.
The data does not reflect that this occurred because of COVID.
It's because Democrats made a conscious decision in the wake
of one viral video out of Minneapolis to brand all
police as evil and also to essentially tell their base,
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which is a large portion of many cities, you don't
have to respect or comply with police anymore. And in fact,
if you get arrested, you're the victim of a structural
racist society. And as a result, crime skyrocketed. And now
you're seeing that people don't like when crime skyrockets in
the cities. I mean, you talk about New Orleans, buck
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for many people who've been down there, it has gotten
to the point now where if you stray a little
bit outside of the main streets in the French Quarter,
you go very far off Bourbon Street at all. It's
not safe. And the number one lifeblood for New Orleans
and all those businesses is what tourism. And if people
don't feel comfortable coming on the road and taking a
vacation in New Orleans because of the as you pointed
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out rightfully, the highest rate of murder of any decent
sized city in America, then everything starts to fall apart.
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He's Clay Travis. Together, they're breathing sanity into an insane world.
Welcome back to Clay and Buck. We had mentioned this
story at the top of this hour. I wanted to
get into it now with the details. So comments went
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viral over the weekend from a seventeen year old named
Rebecca Phillips. She said she was changing one day last
month at the YMCA in the San Diego area, and
while she was changing after swimming lapse, she Rebecca saw
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a transgender female named Christine Wood. By the way, just
reading the stories difficult because of the usage of the
term she threwout for both individuals when one of the
she's is not a she, and that's not a minor detail.
We will we'll discuss this in a moment, but here
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we we have some sense. So this went viral, and
they were protests at the YMCA over the weekend over
this issue, and I just wanted to Clay. I watched
some of this, This young girl, seventeen, she starts crying. Yeah,
she talks about how she brings her five year old
sister to that same locker room and that same ymca
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to change to use the water slide in the pool
in the summer. There was a claim made then this
is now there's contention over this particular claim, but you know,
it makes a difference obviously to the story because the
woman here, the seventeen year old girl, said that she
saw Christine Wood the transgender individual's male genitalia. Hence the
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knowing that this is a man changing in the woman's
locker room. The transgender, transgender woman, Christine Wood says that's
not possible because of transgender surgery. Now, I don't think
this claim has been adjudicated one way or the other
yet as to what is true. But just note I've
found this really interesting over the way. A lot of
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media firestorm about this over the weekend, and here's how
the media talks about this issue. I guess this is
a local San Diego broadcaster who is discussing this one
and play play Cliff nine. I feel like a big
part of the story that's either been a misconception where
people are just forgetting about, is that Wood has fully
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transitioned into a woman and was in the woman's bedroom. Yeah,
that's right, Walle. In fact, she says she is a woman,
and she really wants to drive home the fact that
she transitioned over five years ago and that you know,
she is a woman, and she says she's a woman, period,
and that's where it ends. Absolutely. No, Actually that's not
where it ends. Yeah, we need to play the seventeen
(30:53):
year old girl at some point, maybe even tomorrow, because
I think people will hear it and hear in her
voice that in her opinion, she was seeing a man.
And for anybody out there, this is crazy, right. The
idea that has been put into circulation in this country
(31:15):
is if you identify as a woman, you are in
fact a woman. That just isn't true. It's not factually true,
it's not buyout biologically true. And I don't know what
this person looks like, but do you think that a
seventeen year old girl is just going to make up
that she saw what she believes as male genitalia in
(31:39):
the locker room like that seems crazy to me to
think that she would be doing that. This individual is
visibly a man. There are photos visibly a man. There
are some effort to I think there's been breast augmentation
surgery or something like that. But you look at this person,
you go, that's a transgender individual. There's there's not a surprise.
(32:00):
I mean, they're photos all of the New York Posts
and other sites you can see. So this seventeen year
old girl she sees a man in the woman's locker
room is made. Isn't an interesting if? Usually if people
feel unsafe, they use that word right, They say, Oh,
I feel unsafe because of comments. You know, I feel
unsafe because somebody said they voted for Donald Trump in
(32:21):
the classroom. I feel unsafe, And that is an immediate
veto card over everything else that comes after it. That is,
everyone cater to that person's needs. Now we're talking about
a seventeen year old girl who's naked in the presence
of a full grown man who is naked, and her
feeling unsafe brings the left out to complain that she
(32:42):
needs to just deal with it. That's her bad, little
seventeen year old girl. This guy gets to change there,
and that her reality as a minor female in a
locker room, which is supported by factual truth, is not acceptable.
She has to lie about what she's experiencing and what
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she sees, and of all people that you would want
to listen to, you would think a teenage girl would
be at the top, at the peak of the list
of people that you would have to respect here. And
I totally agree. I mean, you would think that a
young woman in this circumstance that if there's that, if
you know, there's a close call here, which this is
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not a close call in my opinion, but if there
were a close call about the you know, the rights
involved or the need to feel safe, that the young
girl and not the forty something year old trans female
individual would be getting priority. But the left has an
agenda and the false eradication of gender and of gender
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and more importantly, the forced affirmation of lies essential to this.
This is what they do. And I'll be honest with you,
even conservative met outlets I disagree they do. You know,
she Christine Wood, she everywhere. That is not about being polite.
That is taking when you're talking about gender. You've taken
a side on the issue immediately by referring to a
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trance female as she. Because of course, then in people's
minds they think to themselves, well, it's a she so
it is a woman, right, So then what's her problem?
It's not a woman, that's the problem. Yeah, And I
also think it raises the question further if you look
at the picture photo face person, you would say this
(34:36):
is a man, right, physical male characteristics. What's to stop
someone and I mean I mean this honestly, what's to
stop someone from totally being a biological male and just
saying I identify as a woman, So I'm deciding to
use this locker room like, what is the YMCA status? Then?
(34:57):
Can I also point out that the fight over whether
there is still an existence of male genitalia in this case,
and that is at issue in this discussion. Does does
Christine Wood still have a penis? That's the allegation here,
and there's a back and forth because you know, that's
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a pretty clear indicator of gender for most of us.
But you know, I know we'll get someone who says,
what about intersects people? Christine? What does not intersects? M clay?
This continues to play out in a way where you're
not allowed to view and not allowed to discuss objective reality,
and that that I think is a tip off in
and of itself. When you can't actually even say, hold
(35:39):
on a second, what are even you know, what are
we really dealing with her? What is the situation as
it unfolds before us? And and it's very it's troubling
that there are so many people who come forward and
not only want to be a party to this, to
this lie, but are really nasty. I mean the people
who come out in favor of a woman, it's a woman,
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and all this other stuff. And they also note, I
think this is important that if Christine would, you can
change your name. That's fine. We all agree with that.
So the name is the name, and that's fine. If
Christine would did still have male genitalia but had claimed
an authentic transition and was planning to have it removed,
do you think you know, the transagenda supporters would say, well,
(36:25):
in that case, you gotta wait till it's absolutely not.
So even if there was male genitalia in the situation,
they would still insist that the seventeen year old girl
has to change and not have any problem with this whatsoever.
Do you see what I'm saying? They act like, oh,
but you know, there's this detail, we're fighting over this detail.
They wouldn't change if the detail changed. Not only that,
(36:46):
I think also just basic decency. Most people try to
make other people comfortable in a locker room setting. Wouldn't
you agree with that? Like whatever, you're not trying to
make someone feel threatened by and large, in either a
men's or a women's locker room, it's already an uncomfortable
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place because sometimes there's nudity involved. This feels like an
intentional provocation in some ways. Like if you truly have
some genitals that would suggest you might be not female,
why do you have to get naked in the locker room? Right?
(37:27):
Like I mean, a lot of people work out in
gems without feeling the need to get fully nude in
a locker room, you know what I'm talking about? Like
most people don't take a shower in the locker room,
I don't think so. It feels like a provocation in
some way from this individual to try. And again, if
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you hear this girl's voice and hear her explaining what's
going on, I think it's gonna be really difficult for
you to feel like, Oh, she's in the wrong in
some way, in the way that she is behaving. It's
just it's just not possible in my opinion based on
hearing the story. But this is something and you might
be out there listening like, oh, well, this is an
(38:09):
isolated circumstance. That's what they always say about these stories.
And increasingly it's happening in your state. It's happening in
your school district, it's happening in your neighborhood, where everybody
is forced to come face to face with this factual
untruth that is making especially young women, uncomfortable. One of
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the one of the constant underhanded techniques of power that
is used by the left is to push things that
are outrageous and extreme, and to do so systematically. But
every time it comes up, say oh, why are you
making such a big deal of this? Yes, as if
we're always SUPs to say, oh, you're right, okay, so
we'll just let it go. We'll let it go. We
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keep doing it because the same logic applies to them.
Why are they making such a big deal over this
if it's so rare, if it's not really the issue
that you know, we should be folks, why are you
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just they just get caught and then they just want
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(40:38):
are joined now by Patrick Bet, David founder and CEO
of Value Tainment. He's got a book out, Your Next
Five Moves Master the Art of Business Strategy. Appreciate you
joining us, Patrick and Bucket. I have been trying to
follow the story here of the economy, as I'm sure
many of our listeners have as we roll into twenty
(40:59):
twenty three. What do you see out there on the horizon?
What do you expect twenty twenty three to look like?
From a business perspective, and thanks for making the time
for us. Well, first of all, thanks for having me.
I'll love the work you guys are doing. But yeah,
I'll give you a couple data points for the listener
to be thinking about. This is what concerns me. So
(41:19):
if we're looking at the Biden economy and purely his resume.
He gives the inauguration speech January twenty to twenty twenty one,
which is roughly two years ago. To be exact, it's
three days two years ago. It gives a speech two
months later March twenty twenty one. We have the one
(41:39):
twenty nine trillion dollar relief build that they're very excited about.
The next couple of months, all we hear about that
the US savings rates hit twenty six percent. Everybody was celebrating.
You see how great of an idea this is. We
got to send more money to the American people. Look
what's happening. People are not spending their money, they're saving
their money. Savings rate twenty six percent, which is beautiful.
(42:03):
Everybody was bragging about it. Well, fast forward to today.
At that time was twenty six percent. Today, current savings
rate is the worst. It's been in seventeen years. That's
two point four percent is what we have today. Here's
another data to be thinking about. Just a year ago
Q four of last year, so Q four is October
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November December, we had roughly seven hundred and fifty billion
dollars of credit card debt. Okay, we're talking thirteen months ago.
That is not a long time ago. We went from
seven hundred fifty billion dollars in credit card debt, so
nine hundred and twenty six billion dollars in credit card debt.
We're about to cross a trillion dollars for the first
time ever in the history of US and credit card debt,
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and everybody's talking about the national debt thirty one trillion.
You know, a lot of times when people say that
kind of stuff, the average family and the worker doesn't
really feel it. They're like, yeah, you know, I can
go on to death clock and kind of see that website.
But we definitely do feel the credit card that in
ways we've never seen before. So that's one data that
concerns me tremendously. When you see sales at ninety nine
(43:11):
cent stores being up eighty percent year over year, that
means people are no longer going and buying stuff that
they were at the regular place they're going to places
that are discounted is a sign that they're not able
to afford things. And the last, but not least, on
this topic, to be looking at when you're thinking about this.
So everybody was bragging last year about we'll look at this.
(43:32):
I understand what they're talking about with inflation and what
they're doing with inflation, but you got to look at unemployment.
Look how great the numbers are at unemployment. Look how
awesome it is. The economy is doing great. The economy
is doing great. If that was the SoundBite last year,
I would love to see them use that same SoundBite
Q three of this year, when unemployment takes a hit,
(43:53):
they will not be talking about that. So in regards
to twenty twenty three, unfortunately, it's it's not looking good.
The policies are not making the American economy better than
it was two years ago or three years ago. Hey, Patrick,
it's buck really appreciate you being with us and for everyone.
You should check out the Pat Patrick Bet David Show
PbD Show, which is an excellent podcast. Patrick, what does
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it mean when you're trying to figure out what the
indicators would be if things are about to get ugly
in the economy. You know, what are the worry signs
you laid out for us? What you gave us is
the data of where we already are. If we're looking
out three months, six months and we're going to ahead,
people are saying we're already in some form of recession.
But if we go into something more like a Biden depression,
(44:38):
what are you looking for? Excellent questions, So think about
it this way. Collectively, beginning of twenty twenty one, US Americans,
if we put all our network together, we were roughly
worth two point one trillion dollars. That's how much cash
we had, specifically cash, not metwork. Let me correct that,
(44:59):
specifically cash. We collectively had two point one trillion dollars
in cash. Okay, that's Q one of last year. Second
quarter that dropped from two point one to one point nine,
third quarter to one point six, and we're getting close
to one point three trillion dollars of savings. That is
losing nearly a trillion dollars of cash in twelve months.
(45:21):
So what does that mean? Why is that such a concern.
Here's what it means. Rates went up. I want to say,
fourteen months ago, not even fourth. Yeah, fourteen months ago
we could get a nice three percent interest rates. So
I've even got two point eight five or thirty or fixed.
Your mortgage payment is not a big mortgage payment. You
can afford that everything was good. Property value hasn't dropped
(45:44):
significantly yet because people are still sitting on cash. Meaning
say somebody owns a seven hundred thousand dollars house and
it was seven hundred thousand dollars fourteen months ago, but
they're sitting on one hundred thousand dollars of cash, and
now eighty thousand out sixty thousand, now's forty five thousand.
Now it's thirty eight thousand. Our husband and wife are
sitting there talking to each other, saying, Babe, we're trying
(46:05):
to sell this house. No one's biding at seven hundred
and fifty thousand. Let's lower to seven seven hundred, let's
lower to six to fifty. We may need to sell
this thing for five to eighty and then boom if
dumps at five eighty. How do I know that. I'll
give you a perfect example myself. Eight months ago. I
want to look at this local building here in four
law to do the owners. It's a multi billion dollar company.
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They kind of want this building to be off their
balance sheet. They're sixty million dollars into this building. I
go in. They're like, look, we're trying to get rid
of it. Buyers don't want to see this. We're willing
to dump it at thirty two million. Guy. I said,
I'm not paying you thirty two million. I'll offer twenty
six million. They walk. I get a call this week.
This week they come up to me and they say, panfrick,
(46:48):
we'll sell it to you right now for twenty million,
but we need this thing to get done within four weeks.
And I said, I'll give you fifteen million dollars for it.
And they're entertaining the idea. By the way, they're entertaining
the idea. So if the big people are willing to
take those kinds of losses because they want debts off
the balance sheet, we're about to experience Middle America folks
who are living in five hundred, eight hundred, seven hundred
(47:11):
thousand dollar homes or million dollar homes. We're gonna start
seeing people saying, you know that thing we thought was
worth a million, maybe it's really only worth eight fifty.
So that's what's going to be experienced now because people
are running out of cash. So this is fascinating because
Buck and I have talked a lot about this. There's
a lot of people out there who are just staying
in their homes because they have a three percent mortgage
(47:33):
right and they don't want to have to pay six
and a half or seven to be able to move.
And at some point that all starts to add up.
I think we've had whatever it is, eleven straight months
of declining home sales and a lot of people, you
know this, Patrick, huge percentage people out there listening to
us right now, their net worth is very often tied
(47:54):
up into their homes. And in that what you're discussing,
at least in your head, you get those Zoo emails
and the value of your home is higher than what
you paid, and so psychologically, for past few years you've
been able to use that home as a piggy bank.
How does this rectify itself? So, if what you're talking about,
people are trying there's a flight to quality, basically a
(48:14):
flight to cash, how does this spiral? What happens in
your mind? In twenty three as we moved through this year, Well,
it's not going to be a pretty year. I mean,
I think everybody. It's funny because when you talk to realtors,
just the best ways to find out how the industry
is going to do. Call realtors and ask them, what
is your indication, what is your prediction of what's going
(48:35):
to happen to the market in twenty twenty three. Here's
what they'll say, We're expecting a flat year. If realtors
who are in the business of being optimistic tell you
they're expecting a flat year, you know what it means.
They're expecting twenty to thirty percent drop off, right, because
typically realtors are always very motivational, very optimistic, very excited.
So that part is given. Math. You cannot fight math.
(48:58):
Math is math. When our satan goes to the levels
that it goes to. You know, people panic, We don't
do well when we don't have money in the bank.
We come from a concerned place. My suggestion and my
thought is more towards solution. I remember when I was
working on Morgan Stanley Dean Whider. My first day with
them was nine ten oh one. My second day at
(49:19):
Morgan Stanley Dean Widder was nine to eleven. So we're talking.
First day, everybody's excited. This is going to be great.
You're officially a stockbroker. Next day, people are afraid to
answer the phones. And if you remember when we shut
down the stock market because they were worried it was
going to just plunge the next day. And then they
shut it down. The market was closed, brokers weren't working.
(49:41):
I sat there and I said, oh my god, what
are we going to be doing? So that was kind
of a case study to see what happened. A documentary
came out at the time by the former Controller General
of US, David Walker. He's in it, and then Warren
Buffett's in it. And in the documentary, a lady asks
the following question, which is which I think this is
(50:01):
the most important part. She says. Listen, Warren, I'm a mother,
I have three kids. I'm so worried. What do I do?
How do I pay the bills? If America America's dead?
Is at this situation we owe this much money, Here's
what's going on. How do I handle myself? I don't
know what to do? And Warren said something very powerful,
and I'll never forget. It's the biggest insurance policy the
(50:24):
individual can have in an economy like this, he says, Listen,
there's always a demand for experts. There's always a demand
for people who are very very good at what they do.
Meaning if somebody is listening to this and this color,
they're probably like, listen, clay Buck, why do you guys
bring this guy's depressing right now? He's right saving is this?
I'm not optimistic about it. To that caller, you have
(50:46):
to figure out a way to learn and a new
skill set or two or three or four or five
or whatever you're in, become an expert in it. Because
tens of thousands of jobs we're seeing fifty five thousand
jobs in technology right now, we're not even feeling the
bed bath and beyond, which many of us have been
to bed bath and beyond, maybe by a choice, maybe
by force, they just went bankrupt. There's gonna be a
(51:07):
lot of stories like that. So the individual, rather than
sitting there panic in whatever job you're in, do whatever
you can to become an expert, improve yourself, learn new
ways of taking care of your customers so you're more
competitive in the marketplace. That doesn't mean the next twelve
months is not going to be is going to be
pretty It doesn't. It just means when this two shell
(51:28):
path and we're going to twenty twenty four, twenty twenty five,
by that time you'll be recovered, and then five ten
years from now, when this happens again, you'll be ready
for the next crisis. Unfortunately, it's too late if you
weren't ready for this one. This is now an indicator
for us to be prepared for the next one. Check
out Everybody the p b D podcast, Patrick bed David Patrick.
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We got to have you back for one of our
long forms because we got to go to station break
now because it's radio, but we'd love to talk to
you on the podcast side, So thank you so much
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twenty four to seven
Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast. Welcome and everybody to the Monday edition
of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. We have
a lot to talk to you all about. Thank you
for being here with us. Over the weekend, you had
(00:20):
a protest that turned into a riot. An individual was
killed after shooting at Georgia State Patrol officers. The media
was saying it was a mostly peaceful protest despite the
fact there was bullets. There were bullets flying at police officers.
There were there were incendiary devices basically bombs found on
(00:43):
some of them, all over what was supposed to be
a training facility for law enforcement. So that's where we
are with that. We also have Mayor Eric Adams Clay
some speculation he could be planning white house run after
raising enormous amounts of money and just a day one
(01:05):
point two seven million dollars one year into his first term.
We'll discuss that in a little bit, but I wanted
to start us. Oh, and there was a mass shooting
in Los Angeles, a horrific shooting over the weekend, and
because of the perpetrator, who has already taken his own life.
Democrats have very quickly changed the story, changed their view
(01:27):
of whether this is something we have to talk about
or not. But let's start with this, Clay, because this
is just the truth everybody. I actually was one behind.
I'm trying to keep track of how many of how
many times they find classified information in Joe Biden's possession,
(01:49):
illegally meeting out a place that is unsecured, just for
all the libs in the media out there who they
can't They don't know the rules, they know the law,
they don't like to read. They just want to kind
of be on camera or put ary stuff on Twitter.
It's a huge violation of classified handling protocols. I thought
it was four, Clay. You think we're on five now, right.
(02:09):
I actually can't even take it into You have to
go back and look at the various iterations of this.
There's also a new White House Chief of Staff incoming,
which I think is interesting. Who was the COVID czar
under Biden. But let's start, if we can, at what
point is yet another batch of classified found. Remember this
(02:30):
is not willfully taken by a president, kept in secure storage,
under surveillance in one location. This is a non president
vice president who does not have declassification authority taking this
stuff home like he's reading Car and Driver over the
weekend and literally leaving it in the garage. At what
point has this become a true political liability? At what
(02:52):
point is it no longer possible for them to keep
the defense of all things Biden going. I think it's
there and for people over the weekend, And I understand
how you could miss it, because when I saw it,
I just kind of rolled my eyes. They have officially
had to call in the Department of Justice. And what
(03:13):
I would say, maybe we can get our friend Andrew
McCarthy on later this week, because I'd be curious how
he would analyze this. But my thought is, when you
bring in the FBI and the Department of Justice, it's
probably them saying, if you don't let us do this,
we're gonna have to go get a warrant and do
(03:34):
this search on our own. And so they allowed it
to happen with their attorneys still present. But yeah, Buck,
this is now the fifth different time that they have
had to announce that they have found classified documents. And
remember when this began, My question for you was it
felt like a cluster because every one of these drip
(03:58):
drip drip stories as embarrassing. But if the White House
had been able to control this, and they had said, hey,
we in the wake of the Donald Trump incident, decided
to undergo an exhaustive search of all of Joe Biden's
private files and private papers, and we have found several
(04:19):
different documents with classified markings on them and have turned
them over to the National Archives. And they had told
that story once, and they had said, hey, we looked
at every possible residence, every possible location. We did a
deep search for classified documents, just to make sure that
we were complying. It would have been a mess, but
(04:42):
it wouldn't have been the mess that this is turned into.
And Buck, you mentioned what I think is so significant here.
They made a big argument not only that Trump had
these documents, but that they weren't secured. Do you remember
the front page New York Times story within a few
feet of where everyone partied, Donald Trump had classified documents
(05:02):
as if and they had to map up to show
people Mara Lago and where the classified documents were and
what a security risk it was. And you and I
came on and we said, look in order to move
around the Mara Lago property at all. You have to
be wanted, you have to be vetted to even enter
onto that property. When you come in, they want your name,
they want your births to you know, your driver's license number,
(05:24):
everything else to even allow you access to that premises
in the first place. And so when they initially reported these,
they had all the Biden defenders come out and say, well,
this is totally different. This is how you're going to
supposed to handle it. And then they had the corvette
and the classified documents by it, and they just continued
this drip drip drip of incompetence, and in the process,
(05:45):
I think they've cut a lot of people's legs off.
And Buck, you mentioned the idea that Eric Adams might
run as a as the mayor of New York City
for president. Joe Mansion came out and said he might
run for president. Now, that would be an easy way
for him to potentially avoid having to run for reelection
in West Virginia and make it look like his choice,
because then he runs for president and if he fails,
(06:08):
which I think he would at least, that's kind of
like him riding off into the sunset and declaring independence
from the Democrats. However you want to classify it. But
I think increasingly it's becoming likely that somebody with resources
is going to challenge Biden. I would still be very
surprised if Biden isn't going to run. But I think
this classified document scandal, the decision by his chief of staff,
(06:30):
who we talked about, ron Klain for a long time,
to step down and no longer be managing this White House,
it feels to me like Biden is a drift at
sea a bit, and there is going to be a challenger.
And I think that challenger may well emerge in the
next month or two, and then we'll see how serious
that challenge is going to be. I also think it's
noteworthy because we often say here on the show Clay
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that not only have they refused to punish the people
who got COVID so wrong, I mean, I mean, I
just mean professionally, never mind whether there should be any
section beyond that, but you know, fired like I think
people should lose their jobs over being wrong and also
horrifyingly wrong on all things COVID. But the incoming White
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House chief of staff, I want I want everyone to
hear this This is Jeff Zenz. Is that how you
say it? I don't sure how you pronounced his name.
I thought I was hoping you were gonna know. Yeah,
you know, I take a stab at it. Jeff Zenz.
This was him in December of twenty twenty one. This
is not, you know, ancient history. Here is him weighing in.
He was the covid tzar for Biden, not a very
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prominent one in terms of the media coverage, and here
he is letting you know what he thinks of well
a lot of you play clip one. We are intent
on not letting Amicron disrupt work in school. For the vaccinated,
you've done the right thing and we will get through this.
For the unvaccinated, you're looking at a winter of severe
illness and death for yourselves, your families, and the hospitals
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you may soon overwhelm. For the unvaccinated. Basically, you're all
gonna die or you're gonna kill people, and you're gonna
overwhelm hospitals and your monsters. This guy should be begging
the guy yeah, sorry, what No, I was just gonna say.
This was the guy who conveyed the winner of death argument,
which is maybe the worst possible statement of all that
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Joe Biden put out. And like you said, he's getting
promoted and he is being elevated. So in case anyone's
wondering what they do when they get everything wrong and
they buy all objective standards, should be ashamed of themselves.
It's promotion time in the Biden White House. That's how
they operate over there. Because he was a soldier for
the cause of the left, and the fact that he
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said all this stuff that's obviously untrue and as never,
how is it that no one of the press has
pushed him on this. Why isn't he being asked at
the first opportunity, Hey, you said that hospitals will be
over overrun with the unvaccinated. In fact, the vaccination didn't
stop hospital levels from going to exactly what they would
have been without the vaccine. The thing didn't even work.
So how about that he's gonna be White House chief
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of staff, which I would I would note, you know,
Clay if Ron Klaine was the de facto president or whatever.
People argue, does that mean that Jeff Ziens I believe
I've been told is how you pronounced this? Does that
mean that Jeff is now the chief behind the scenes
guy making decisions for Biden, who at this point, given
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the fact that there's classified in five different batches of
this have now been found, Okay, they're now thinking about
looking I believe at the Rohoboth Beach house. Right, Isn't
that the latest? As it is tough to keep it
all together because they keep saying, oh, we found it all,
it's over, it's good, we're cooperating. But this is the
last of it. Five times it's not the last of it.
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And I wonder when the shift to not only do
we have to search all of Joe Biden's properties. This
is where the Hunter Biden connection can come in, because
I wonder how long it's going to be until they say, okay,
let's start to search some of the Biden family members
who had access potentially to these classified documents. And I'll
also note that unlike with the Trump investigation, where the
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FBI took all the photos of the classified documents a
raid on the floor, the FBI, to my knowledge, didn't
take any pictures of the classified documents inside Joe Biden's
house that they took possession of, so that propaganda aspect
has not occurred. Also, we haven't had any leaks really
about any of the details surrounding. It didn't take very
(10:32):
long for the Washington Post to come out and say, oh,
these were extremely sensitive documents. They involved potentially the nuclear codes. Well,
all we've gotten is kind of a generic sense. They
said one involved Ukraine, ran and England. I think on
the initial pen Biden document discovery, we haven't heard anything
about the document since Why would he bring these home?
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This is another question I'm wondering. And if you did
the Senate, a lot of the senators buck have said
you couldn't ever take stuff out of the Senate and
be able to get this at you know, home. Well,
I mean it's illegal, right, and so that's why you wonder. Okay,
even if Biden has a skiff, a secure compartmented information facility,
which is where you are allowed to have classified and
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for example, you know a president, the president goes to
Camp David, Like, there's a skiff at Camp David, right,
I mean, when when you're talking about that level of
government official, Uh, there are there are places where they
where they go outside of the standard you know, the
White House, the Pentagon where you can have classified information.
But even if that were the case, why why would
he have left it? Or or you know, why would
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he have left those those areas? With this, there is
clear this is what I'm getting to recklessness here, And
I think that the way that they could honestly defend
against the recklessness, I think the way they could do
that would be to say that Biden is really old
and has made some as cognition is challenged and was
(12:01):
challenging even when he was vice president. But they can't
make that argument because they're going to try to make
this guy president for four more years. I think it's likely,
And so they're left with what exactly Now you've noticed
there's these the move has now become clay that tepid. Well,
this is not entirely responsible. I am not super proud
(12:22):
of Biden's head, like they've sort of done a little
bit of this, you know what I mean, But they're
just hoping that the storm passes. I'm not so sure
it's an easy thing for him to pack. Legally, they're
gonna make this thing go away. From that, I'm very
confident of. But politically this looks bad. Now. This has
gone from like, oh, doesn't everyone make mistakes? To Joe
Biden's a reckless clown. Yeah, and that's why I think
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he's gonna have a challenger. Now I'm not sure who
that challenger is, who's going to step in the ring
with him, but I think ultimately Buck, when some of
this data comes out, what we're going to see is that,
for instance, the Senate classified documents were things that Joe
Biden felt entitled to keep, in other words, almost memorabilia,
(13:04):
in the same way that a lot of the dispute
over what Trump kept seems to be rooted in, hey,
this is my property. This is memorabilia from my time
as president that Kim Jong Hoon letters are a great
example of that. He thought that those were his possession.
And I think that you're going to find out that
Joe Biden had a very similar way of thinking. That's
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the only thing that can make sense to me about
how he could end up with classified documents from all
the way back to his Senate career. And then you
have to wonder how did he travel with these? Was
he carrying them on the train, you know, in his
briefcase back up to Delaware, which is the usual way
that Joe Biden would have traveled. How did the vice
president makes a little bit more sense because they're packing
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up the office in a hurry. The Senate classified documents
to me is much more challenging to explain away and again,
to me, it emboldened somebody who could be a challenger,
whether Joe Manchin, whether it's Eric Adams. He might get
challenged on both flanks, Buck, which would be interesting. Joe
Man the last time we had a real chal right,
when was the last time we had a real challenge
(14:09):
to an incumbent president from his own party? Clay gotta go.
I mean, I think you'd almost have to go back
to what George w George hw Bush, right, I mean,
when he got challenged by Pat mccannon in back in
nineteen eighty eight. I think it was if I remember correctly,
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Over the weekend, some violence breaking out in the Atlanta area.
A riot. That's It's interesting when a riot starts starts
off as a protest. The Democrats involved around this in
the media will say it is a peaceful protest that
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turned into something else. Some protests get the benefit of
the doubt. Others, obviously are the biggest threat to our
democracy since you know, Pearl Harbor or whatever. But I
want to tell you about this, this ride that occurred
over the weekend. So there's something in the Atlanta area
that activists or it's the Atlanta Police Department training facility
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that's being built, which these leftists are calling cop City.
So there was a group and it was clay over
the weekend. I was trying to dive into all this.
A group that called themselves the Forest Defenders, who were
showing up and engaging in destructive and criminal acts. They
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were sabotaging things and because they didn't want cop City
as they call it, to be built, because they thought
that this is just the enshrining of the police date
or something. It's fascinating, isn't it. The activists say they
want just better training for police and de escalation, and
you're going to build this law multidisciplinary law enforcement training
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facility to do that kind of stuff, de escalation, non
lethal whatever. And then the leftists are saying, oh, but
it's gonna take too many trees and the environmental impact
and the enshrining of police because they're lunatics. But the
Democrats in the media all have a lot of sympathy
for this and for this movement, but this was particularly
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this is particularly egregious. There was a lethal shooting here.
Law enforcement involves shooting of a protester who opened fire
on a Georgia State Patrol trooper. Yea, So one of
these forest defender lunatics pulls a gun and start shooting
at Georgia State basically Georgia State Police. Right, Georgia State
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Police returns fire and kills him and then other forest defenders.
These are all Biden voters. By the way, leftists decide
that they're going to burn down you know, they burned
a police vehicle and they're they're destroying things and engaging
in a riot, and somehow we're supposed to think that
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this is peaceful protests that just got a little out
of hand. The whole thing is lunatic stuff. Yeah, and
if you haven't seen the videos, definitely worth watching the videos.
Buck they arrested six Antifa it appears activist right in
some way these groups are connected. All six were from
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outside of Atlanta. I believe five were from out of state.
One was from Decatur, Georgia, which is a suburb basically
of Atlanta. The other five I believe we're from out
of state, all white people. So I just want to
point this out. You have out of state rioters that
are showing up in Atlanta and are burning, looting, pillaging,
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engaging in violent behavior. And on CNN, which has a
substantial footprint in Atlanta, they have a spokesperson go on
air and basically say, oh yeah, I mean, you know,
it's a cliche because we've had to go through this
so many times, but the amount of time that they
say this is, you know, essentially mostly peaceful protests. We have. Actually,
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we have a journalist on CNN here saying, let's not
remember they marched because they were outraged that a leftist
pulled the gun and started firing at cops and they
fired back and killed him. So they're outraged that that happened.
And then they're marching in Atlanta and they decide that
a group of them, as you said, six have been
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arrested basically Antiphamaniacs, their domestic terrorists, everybody, that's actually what
they are. Let's just use the proper terminology, which you
won't hear that on MSNBC or CNN. They start smashing things,
destroying property and lighting a police car on fire. And
this is what they're saying over at CNN, is this
is all happening? Play seven. I think that there's a
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real blurring of the lines in the use of the
word violence. Is property destruction violence to some people? It
certainly is. But you know this idea that breaking windows
or other acts of property destruction are the same as
actual violence against humans, It's kind of a dangerous and
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slippery concept, you know, you keep using these words violent, violent, violent, violent.
The only acts of violence against people that I saw
were actually police tackling protesters. Okay, okay, so this is fascinating.
This is the this is on CNN's air or whatever.
You hear that the only violence. Now he leaves out
the violence of the maniac shooting at and trying to
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murder police officers, which then spurred this whole protest on
the streets. But the whole point of the property destruction
is yes, economic pain, but it's also clay meant to intimidate.
You could argue you by this guy's same logic. Hey,
I just went into a bank and held a gun
up and said fill my bag full of money. I
didn't hurt anybody, right, The impression or the belief that
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violence is imminent is also something that has to be police.
When you're lighting car, when you're throwing things and lighting
cars on fire, I think people are right to think
that's unsafe. You are threatening my physical safety as well
as destroying property. When a police car is burning, that
is the essence of violence. So the argument of oh,
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it's just property, no, no, no, When you burn a
police cruiser, that is violent behavior. And to the credit
of the it's a newly elected mayor of Atlanta. He's
been in this office relatively short period of time, Andre Dickens.
He replaced Kesha Lance Bottoms, who I believe is in
the Biden administration now, and she was fired up about
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all the crime related but just decided not to run. Really,
the mayor race in Atlanta turned on who could stamp
down on violent crime the most. And I think this
is interesting that the mayor of Atlanta pointed out that
these violent protesters were from outside of Atlanta and came
to the city of Atlanta. Again, Atlanta is a majority
black city. We have six white antifoot protesters arrested committing
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acts of violence. The mayor wasn't standing for it. Listen,
they had a protest last night and it was peaceful,
but there were some individuals within that crowd that meant violence.
They had explosives, they burned down a police car, they
broke windows, have businesses, and so our police department, along
with our state and federal partners, took swift action within
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two blocks and brought that situation under control and the
violent stop, and those six individuals were arrested. And it
should be noted that these individuals were not Atlanta or
Georgia residents. Most of them traveled into our city to
reach heavy Now he's saying some of the right things here,
and that's why you're pitching, which is a change, right
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from a big city mayor for a change finally saying,
we got to stamp this out. All of the all
of the leftists out there, they're running out of excuses
and explanations for why whenever people do what the anti
police left wants, everyone is less safe. There's more violence
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and destruction, and there's urban decay and the whole thing
turns into a mess. They're running out of ways to
explain to people. Yeah, enforcing the law less and deciding
that you're going to use social justice instead of criminal
justice for police departments. This isn't gonna work anymore and
more and more players of seeing this. Actually you bring
this up New Orleans, which has the highest per capita
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murder rate of any major city, which is so I mean,
I know you agree with I love New Orleans. I
think it's one of the coolest, best towns in the
whole country. It's a top ten city for me in America.
I love it. Are too violent right now, obviously, far
too much violence going on in that city. Mayor LaToya
Cantrell spoke about it and said some stuff that is
on the right track. Listen to this play ten. New
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Orleans has the highest per capita murder rate of any
major city. Why. Why is because one dealing with COVID
nineteen violence, everyone has guns, the lack of the ability
to resolve a conflict without reaching and pulling a gun. Also,
as it relates to accountability, you know, low lining offenses,
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you know when they don't get bail or they're not restrained.
Then we're just saying how these crimes escalate. People need
to be held accountable across the board. Click. Can I
just say so? Obviously the first thing you said about
COVID is preposterous, but that's been a Democrat talking point
for a long time now to try to cover up
the decay of the of these Democrat controlled cities. I think, though,
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this is part of what you're going to see this
this slow shift. Oh it's about you know, COVID or
police training or whatever. But she uses this word accountability.
What that really means is locking up criminals and enforcing
the law. The inescapable truth that even Democrats are not
having to face is you have to lock up criminals,
you have to enforce the law or else. Not only
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does this stay, it gets worse. And that's where we are.
And they're also slowly having to come to the grips
with the fact that this is all George Floyd protest related.
The data does not reflect that this occurred because of COVID.
It's because Democrats made a conscious decision in the wake
of one viral video out of Minneapolis to brand all
police as evil and also to essentially tell their base,
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which is a large portion of many cities, you don't
have to respect or comply with police anymore. And in fact,
if you get arrested, you're the victim of a structural
racist society. And as a result, crime skyrocketed. And now
you're seeing that people don't like when crime skyrockets in
the cities. I mean, you talk about New Orleans, buck
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for many people who've been down there, it has gotten
to the point now where if you stray a little
bit outside of the main streets in the French Quarter,
you go very far off Bourbon Street at all. It's
not safe. And the number one lifeblood for New Orleans
and all those businesses is what tourism. And if people
don't feel comfortable coming on the road and taking a
vacation in New Orleans because of the as you pointed
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out rightfully, the highest rate of murder of any decent
sized city in America, then everything starts to fall apart.
And everything is falling apart in many of these cities,
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Welcome back to Clay and Buck. We had mentioned this
story at the top of this hour. I wanted to
get into it now with the details. So comments went
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viral over the weekend from a seventeen year old named
Rebecca Phillips. She said she was changing one day last
month at the YMCA in the San Diego area, and
while she was changing after swimming lapse, she Rebecca saw
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a transgender female named Christine Wood. By the way, just
reading the stories difficult because of the usage of the
term she threwout for both individuals when one of the
she's is not a she, and that's not a minor detail.
We will we'll discuss this in a moment, but here
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we we have some sense. So this went viral, and
they were protests at the YMCA over the weekend over
this issue, and I just wanted to Clay. I watched
some of this, This young girl, seventeen, she starts crying. Yeah,
she talks about how she brings her five year old
sister to that same locker room and that same ymca
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to change to use the water slide in the pool
in the summer. There was a claim made then this
is now there's contention over this particular claim, but you know,
it makes a difference obviously to the story because the
woman here, the seventeen year old girl, said that she
saw Christine Wood the transgender individual's male genitalia. Hence the
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knowing that this is a man changing in the woman's
locker room. The transgender, transgender woman, Christine Wood says that's
not possible because of transgender surgery. Now, I don't think
this claim has been adjudicated one way or the other
yet as to what is true. But just note I've
found this really interesting over the way. A lot of
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media firestorm about this over the weekend, and here's how
the media talks about this issue. I guess this is
a local San Diego broadcaster who is discussing this one
and play play Cliff nine. I feel like a big
part of the story that's either been a misconception where
people are just forgetting about, is that Wood has fully
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transitioned into a woman and was in the woman's bedroom. Yeah,
that's right, Walle. In fact, she says she is a woman,
and she really wants to drive home the fact that
she transitioned over five years ago and that you know,
she is a woman, and she says she's a woman, period,
and that's where it ends. Absolutely. No, Actually that's not
where it ends. Yeah, we need to play the seventeen
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year old girl at some point, maybe even tomorrow, because
I think people will hear it and hear in her
voice that in her opinion, she was seeing a man.
And for anybody out there, this is crazy, right. The
idea that has been put into circulation in this country
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is if you identify as a woman, you are in
fact a woman. That just isn't true. It's not factually true,
it's not buyout biologically true. And I don't know what
this person looks like, but do you think that a
seventeen year old girl is just going to make up
that she saw what she believes as male genitalia in
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the locker room like that seems crazy to me to
think that she would be doing that. This individual is
visibly a man. There are photos visibly a man. There
are some effort to I think there's been breast augmentation
surgery or something like that. But you look at this person,
you go, that's a transgender individual. There's there's not a surprise.
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I mean, they're photos all of the New York Posts
and other sites you can see. So this seventeen year
old girl she sees a man in the woman's locker
room is made. Isn't an interesting if? Usually if people
feel unsafe, they use that word right, They say, Oh,
I feel unsafe because of comments. You know, I feel
unsafe because somebody said they voted for Donald Trump in
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the classroom. I feel unsafe, And that is an immediate
veto card over everything else that comes after it. That is,
everyone cater to that person's needs. Now we're talking about
a seventeen year old girl who's naked in the presence
of a full grown man who is naked, and her
feeling unsafe brings the left out to complain that she
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needs to just deal with it. That's her bad, little
seventeen year old girl. This guy gets to change there,
and that her reality as a minor female in a
locker room, which is supported by factual truth, is not acceptable.
She has to lie about what she's experiencing and what
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she sees, and of all people that you would want
to listen to, you would think a teenage girl would
be at the top, at the peak of the list
of people that you would have to respect here. And
I totally agree. I mean, you would think that a
young woman in this circumstance that if there's that, if
you know, there's a close call here, which this is
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not a close call in my opinion, but if there
were a close call about the you know, the rights
involved or the need to feel safe, that the young
girl and not the forty something year old trans female
individual would be getting priority. But the left has an
agenda and the false eradication of gender and of gender
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and more importantly, the forced affirmation of lies essential to this.
This is what they do. And I'll be honest with you,
even conservative met outlets I disagree they do. You know,
she Christine Wood, she everywhere. That is not about being polite.
That is taking when you're talking about gender. You've taken
a side on the issue immediately by referring to a
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trance female as she. Because of course, then in people's
minds they think to themselves, well, it's a she so
it is a woman, right, So then what's her problem?
It's not a woman, that's the problem. Yeah, And I
also think it raises the question further if you look
at the picture photo face person, you would say this
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is a man, right, physical male characteristics. What's to stop
someone and I mean I mean this honestly, what's to
stop someone from totally being a biological male and just
saying I identify as a woman, So I'm deciding to
use this locker room like, what is the YMCA status? Then?
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Can I also point out that the fight over whether
there is still an existence of male genitalia in this case,
and that is at issue in this discussion. Does does
Christine Wood still have a penis? That's the allegation here,
and there's a back and forth because you know, that's
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a pretty clear indicator of gender for most of us.
But you know, I know we'll get someone who says,
what about intersects people? Christine? What does not intersects? M clay?
This continues to play out in a way where you're
not allowed to view and not allowed to discuss objective reality,
and that that I think is a tip off in
and of itself. When you can't actually even say, hold
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on a second, what are even you know, what are
we really dealing with her? What is the situation as
it unfolds before us? And and it's very it's troubling
that there are so many people who come forward and
not only want to be a party to this, to
this lie, but are really nasty. I mean the people
who come out in favor of a woman, it's a woman,
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and all this other stuff. And they also note, I
think this is important that if Christine would, you can
change your name. That's fine. We all agree with that.
So the name is the name, and that's fine. If
Christine would did still have male genitalia but had claimed
an authentic transition and was planning to have it removed,
do you think you know, the transagenda supporters would say, well,
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in that case, you gotta wait till it's absolutely not.
So even if there was male genitalia in the situation,
they would still insist that the seventeen year old girl
has to change and not have any problem with this whatsoever.
Do you see what I'm saying? They act like, oh,
but you know, there's this detail, we're fighting over this detail.
They wouldn't change if the detail changed. Not only that,
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I think also just basic decency. Most people try to
make other people comfortable in a locker room setting. Wouldn't
you agree with that? Like whatever, you're not trying to
make someone feel threatened by and large, in either a
men's or a women's locker room, it's already an uncomfortable
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place because sometimes there's nudity involved. This feels like an
intentional provocation in some ways. Like if you truly have
some genitals that would suggest you might be not female,
why do you have to get naked in the locker room? Right?
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Like I mean, a lot of people work out in
gems without feeling the need to get fully nude in
a locker room, you know what I'm talking about? Like
most people don't take a shower in the locker room,
I don't think so. It feels like a provocation in
some way from this individual to try. And again, if
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you hear this girl's voice and hear her explaining what's
going on, I think it's gonna be really difficult for
you to feel like, Oh, she's in the wrong in
some way, in the way that she is behaving. It's
just it's just not possible in my opinion based on
hearing the story. But this is something and you might
be out there listening like, oh, well, this is an
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isolated circumstance. That's what they always say about these stories.
And increasingly it's happening in your state. It's happening in
your school district, it's happening in your neighborhood, where everybody
is forced to come face to face with this factual
untruth that is making especially young women, uncomfortable. One of
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the one of the constant underhanded techniques of power that
is used by the left is to push things that
are outrageous and extreme, and to do so systematically. But
every time it comes up, say oh, why are you
making such a big deal of this? Yes, as if
we're always SUPs to say, oh, you're right, okay, so
we'll just let it go. We'll let it go. We
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keep doing it because the same logic applies to them.
Why are they making such a big deal over this
if it's so rare, if it's not really the issue
that you know, we should be folks, why are you
so focused on this? Because the left is so they're
just they just get caught and then they just want
their way. But we'll come back into this in a second.
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On the Sunday Hang with Clay and buck Podcasts, we
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are joined now by Patrick Bet, David founder and CEO
of Value Tainment. He's got a book out, Your Next
Five Moves Master the Art of Business Strategy. Appreciate you
joining us, Patrick and Bucket. I have been trying to
follow the story here of the economy, as I'm sure
many of our listeners have as we roll into twenty
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twenty three. What do you see out there on the horizon?
What do you expect twenty twenty three to look like?
From a business perspective, and thanks for making the time
for us. Well, first of all, thanks for having me.
I'll love the work you guys are doing. But yeah,
I'll give you a couple data points for the listener
to be thinking about. This is what concerns me. So
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if we're looking at the Biden economy and purely his resume.
He gives the inauguration speech January twenty to twenty twenty one,
which is roughly two years ago. To be exact, it's
three days two years ago. It gives a speech two
months later March twenty twenty one. We have the one
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twenty nine trillion dollar relief build that they're very excited about.
The next couple of months, all we hear about that
the US savings rates hit twenty six percent. Everybody was celebrating.
You see how great of an idea this is. We
got to send more money to the American people. Look
what's happening. People are not spending their money, they're saving
their money. Savings rate twenty six percent, which is beautiful.
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Everybody was bragging about it. Well, fast forward to today.
At that time was twenty six percent. Today, current savings
rate is the worst. It's been in seventeen years. That's
two point four percent is what we have today. Here's
another data to be thinking about. Just a year ago
Q four of last year, so Q four is October
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November December, we had roughly seven hundred and fifty billion
dollars of credit card debt. Okay, we're talking thirteen months ago.
That is not a long time ago. We went from
seven hundred fifty billion dollars in credit card debt, so
nine hundred and twenty six billion dollars in credit card debt.
We're about to cross a trillion dollars for the first
time ever in the history of US and credit card debt,
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and everybody's talking about the national debt thirty one trillion.
You know, a lot of times when people say that
kind of stuff, the average family and the worker doesn't
really feel it. They're like, yeah, you know, I can
go on to death clock and kind of see that website.
But we definitely do feel the credit card that in
ways we've never seen before. So that's one data that
concerns me tremendously. When you see sales at ninety nine
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cent stores being up eighty percent year over year, that
means people are no longer going and buying stuff that
they were at the regular place they're going to places
that are discounted is a sign that they're not able
to afford things. And the last, but not least, on
this topic, to be looking at when you're thinking about this.
So everybody was bragging last year about we'll look at this.
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I understand what they're talking about with inflation and what
they're doing with inflation, but you got to look at unemployment.
Look how great the numbers are at unemployment. Look how
awesome it is. The economy is doing great. The economy
is doing great. If that was the SoundBite last year,
I would love to see them use that same SoundBite
Q three of this year, when unemployment takes a hit,
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they will not be talking about that. So in regards
to twenty twenty three, unfortunately, it's it's not looking good.
The policies are not making the American economy better than
it was two years ago or three years ago. Hey, Patrick,
it's buck really appreciate you being with us and for everyone.
You should check out the Pat Patrick Bet David Show
PbD Show, which is an excellent podcast. Patrick, what does
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it mean when you're trying to figure out what the
indicators would be if things are about to get ugly
in the economy. You know, what are the worry signs
you laid out for us? What you gave us is
the data of where we already are. If we're looking
out three months, six months and we're going to ahead,
people are saying we're already in some form of recession.
But if we go into something more like a Biden depression,
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what are you looking for? Excellent questions, So think about
it this way. Collectively, beginning of twenty twenty one, US Americans,
if we put all our network together, we were roughly
worth two point one trillion dollars. That's how much cash
we had, specifically cash, not metwork. Let me correct that,
(44:59):
specifically cash. We collectively had two point one trillion dollars
in cash. Okay, that's Q one of last year. Second
quarter that dropped from two point one to one point nine,
third quarter to one point six, and we're getting close
to one point three trillion dollars of savings. That is
losing nearly a trillion dollars of cash in twelve months.
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So what does that mean? Why is that such a concern.
Here's what it means. Rates went up. I want to say,
fourteen months ago, not even fourth. Yeah, fourteen months ago
we could get a nice three percent interest rates. So
I've even got two point eight five or thirty or fixed.
Your mortgage payment is not a big mortgage payment. You
can afford that everything was good. Property value hasn't dropped
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significantly yet because people are still sitting on cash. Meaning
say somebody owns a seven hundred thousand dollars house and
it was seven hundred thousand dollars fourteen months ago, but
they're sitting on one hundred thousand dollars of cash, and
now eighty thousand out sixty thousand, now's forty five thousand.
Now it's thirty eight thousand. Our husband and wife are
sitting there talking to each other, saying, Babe, we're trying
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to sell this house. No one's biding at seven hundred
and fifty thousand. Let's lower to seven seven hundred, let's
lower to six to fifty. We may need to sell
this thing for five to eighty and then boom if
dumps at five eighty. How do I know that. I'll
give you a perfect example myself. Eight months ago. I
want to look at this local building here in four
law to do the owners. It's a multi billion dollar company.
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They kind of want this building to be off their
balance sheet. They're sixty million dollars into this building. I
go in. They're like, look, we're trying to get rid
of it. Buyers don't want to see this. We're willing
to dump it at thirty two million. Guy. I said,
I'm not paying you thirty two million. I'll offer twenty
six million. They walk. I get a call this week.
This week they come up to me and they say, panfrick,
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we'll sell it to you right now for twenty million,
but we need this thing to get done within four weeks.
And I said, I'll give you fifteen million dollars for it.
And they're entertaining the idea. By the way, they're entertaining
the idea. So if the big people are willing to
take those kinds of losses because they want debts off
the balance sheet, we're about to experience Middle America folks
who are living in five hundred, eight hundred, seven hundred
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thousand dollar homes or million dollar homes. We're gonna start
seeing people saying, you know that thing we thought was
worth a million, maybe it's really only worth eight fifty.
So that's what's going to be experienced now because people
are running out of cash. So this is fascinating because
Buck and I have talked a lot about this. There's
a lot of people out there who are just staying
in their homes because they have a three percent mortgage
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right and they don't want to have to pay six
and a half or seven to be able to move.
And at some point that all starts to add up.
I think we've had whatever it is, eleven straight months
of declining home sales and a lot of people, you
know this, Patrick, huge percentage people out there listening to
us right now, their net worth is very often tied
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up into their homes. And in that what you're discussing,
at least in your head, you get those Zoo emails
and the value of your home is higher than what
you paid, and so psychologically, for past few years you've
been able to use that home as a piggy bank.
How does this rectify itself? So, if what you're talking about,
people are trying there's a flight to quality, basically a
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flight to cash, how does this spiral? What happens in
your mind? In twenty three as we moved through this year, Well,
it's not going to be a pretty year. I mean,
I think everybody. It's funny because when you talk to realtors,
just the best ways to find out how the industry
is going to do. Call realtors and ask them, what
is your indication, what is your prediction of what's going
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to happen to the market in twenty twenty three. Here's
what they'll say, We're expecting a flat year. If realtors
who are in the business of being optimistic tell you
they're expecting a flat year, you know what it means.
They're expecting twenty to thirty percent drop off, right, because
typically realtors are always very motivational, very optimistic, very excited.
So that part is given. Math. You cannot fight math.
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Math is math. When our satan goes to the levels
that it goes to. You know, people panic, We don't
do well when we don't have money in the bank.
We come from a concerned place. My suggestion and my
thought is more towards solution. I remember when I was
working on Morgan Stanley Dean Whider. My first day with
them was nine ten oh one. My second day at
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Morgan Stanley Dean Widder was nine to eleven. So we're talking.
First day, everybody's excited. This is going to be great.
You're officially a stockbroker. Next day, people are afraid to
answer the phones. And if you remember when we shut
down the stock market because they were worried it was
going to just plunge the next day. And then they
shut it down. The market was closed, brokers weren't working.
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I sat there and I said, oh my god, what
are we going to be doing? So that was kind
of a case study to see what happened. A documentary
came out at the time by the former Controller General
of US, David Walker. He's in it, and then Warren
Buffett's in it. And in the documentary, a lady asks
the following question, which is which I think this is
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the most important part. She says. Listen, Warren, I'm a mother,
I have three kids. I'm so worried. What do I do?
How do I pay the bills? If America America's dead?
Is at this situation we owe this much money, Here's
what's going on. How do I handle myself? I don't
know what to do? And Warren said something very powerful,
and I'll never forget. It's the biggest insurance policy the
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individual can have in an economy like this, he says, Listen,
there's always a demand for experts. There's always a demand
for people who are very very good at what they do.
Meaning if somebody is listening to this and this color,
they're probably like, listen, clay Buck, why do you guys
bring this guy's depressing right now? He's right saving is this?
I'm not optimistic about it. To that caller, you have
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to figure out a way to learn and a new
skill set or two or three or four or five
or whatever you're in, become an expert in it. Because
tens of thousands of jobs we're seeing fifty five thousand
jobs in technology right now, we're not even feeling the
bed bath and beyond, which many of us have been
to bed bath and beyond, maybe by a choice, maybe
by force, they just went bankrupt. There's gonna be a
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lot of stories like that. So the individual, rather than
sitting there panic in whatever job you're in, do whatever
you can to become an expert, improve yourself, learn new
ways of taking care of your customers so you're more
competitive in the marketplace. That doesn't mean the next twelve
months is not going to be is going to be
pretty It doesn't. It just means when this two shell
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path and we're going to twenty twenty four, twenty twenty five,
by that time you'll be recovered, and then five ten
years from now, when this happens again, you'll be ready
for the next crisis. Unfortunately, it's too late if you
weren't ready for this one. This is now an indicator
for us to be prepared for the next one. Check
out Everybody the p b D podcast, Patrick bed David Patrick.
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We got to have you back for one of our
long forms because we got to go to station break
now because it's radio, but we'd love to talk to
you on the podcast side, So thank you so much
for being with us. Thanks fellows, thank you well by.
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