Daily Review with Clay and Buck - May 23 2023

DeSantis announcing run with Elon. Another brown “white supremacist”? The real reason Florida is despised. The soft bigotry of low expectations.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of the Klay, Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
Welcome back in our number three. A lot of fun
topics we've already dove into, We're going to dive into
a lot more. But breaking news. This is according to
NBC News, Buck literally just came down in the last
five minutes. Ron DeSantis is going to launch his presidential

(00:30):
bid tomorrow Twitter on Twitter Wednesday evening. In a conversation
with Elon Musk, I'm reading from this NBC report right
now again, this news just breaking. Florida Governor Ron DeSantis
will announce he's running for president during a discussion with

(00:53):
Twitter CEO Elon Musk. Three sources familiar with the plans
told NBC News into Santis will host an event on
Twitter Spaces, the site's platform for audio chats, on Wednesday
at seven pm Eastern. It will be moderated by David Sachs,
a tech entrepreneur who is a Musk confidant and a

(01:16):
DeSantis supporter. That same evening, the campaign will release a
launch video, and DeSantis will begin visiting several early states
after Memorial Day. So the launch and I'm reading from
NBC will closely tie together the billionaire tech mogul with

(01:36):
one of the Republican parties rising Stars, and the announcement
will coincide with a retreat for high end fundraisers pledged
to support DeSantis in Miami that will be occurring there.
So it's not clear if Musk will formally endorse DeSantis,
but another source said that the participation is viewed as

(01:59):
a clear sign of for the governor. NBC News did
not receive a response from Musk, Sacks, or the DeSantis campaign.
Buck your reaction when you hear presuming again it's NBC News,
This could be untrue, but NBC News reporting this Wednesday

(02:19):
evening announcement with Elon Musk, assuming it's true, your reaction
to this news is what I think. What this shows
you is Twitter is likely to be a centerpiece in
the effort to at least start to equalize the advantage
that Democrats have had from not just control of the

(02:43):
social media platforms, but the active active measures, suppression and
all the rest of what we've seen, particularly in twenty
twenty against Trump. So it makes a lot of sense
to me. It also goes to show you that there
this is really about taking it directly to the people.

(03:04):
It's not a favored show or you know, a long
standing legacy media outlet. And I think it's very interesting
that this is the choice. This makes perfect sense to me.
Wouldn't it be funny if Tucker just like popped up
alongside them, like, hey, guys, like I just also want
to say hi here and this is the new home
for a free speech. There's something really profound, really important

(03:28):
about what Elon Musk is doing with Twitter. It's not
perfect clan I talk about this. There's a lot of
and I know very few of you are on Twitter,
but really Twitter is almost like the assignment editor for
the National Conversation. That's really how you know on Facebook.
On Facebook, you'll share things on Facebook, you know, you'll
see you know your neighbor's dog or whatever. But the

(03:52):
news entities commentators shows everyone that you know, everyone that
you follow in that space. They're pretty much active on Twitter,
of course, with the exception of Donald Trump, which is
very interesting and I thought about that right away. I thought,
wait a second, so DeSantis is going to leverage Twitter
as a platform to take it directly to millions and

(04:15):
millions of people. Trump is still not active on Twitter.
He is locked in with truth social I don't know
if that's I know it's contractually and the business side
of it and all the rest comes into play, But
I don't know if that's sustainable for him in a
primary against DeSantis because Trump used Twitter so effectively in

(04:38):
twenty sixteen and in twenty twenty, which is why they
kicked him off. Okay, so my big takeaway here is Buck,
can you tell me if you disagree or think I'm
reading this wrong. If 'ro On DeSantis is announcing for president,
as NBC News is reporting on Twitter spaces with Elon
Musk and with David's who is a prominent DeSantis supporter,

(05:03):
how is that anything other than an endorsement by Elon
Musk Ofvron DeSantis. I mean personally, not Twitter, right, I
mean the company itself is not endorsing him. I think
it's really smart because DeSantis is going on this is
kind of a new generation way to announce, which if
you're DeSantis, you want to argue I'm a new generation

(05:24):
of leader. Right. DeSantis is forty four. A lot of
the people he's the youngest. He'll be the youngest other
than Vivic Ramaswami. I believe Buck, the youngest person to
announce for presidents so far, got a young family, young wife,
all of those things. To me, if you could pick
one person, if you said to me, Klay Travis, you
get to draft one person in America right now to

(05:48):
support your presidential run. And I mean outside of your
own family, right because number one would be my wife
hopefully kids. I'm talking about a public figure. I think
I would take Elon Musk number one overall. I mentioned
this yesterday and I didn't have the graphic handy at
the time, but there's a Harvard Harris poll to me, yes, yeah,
there's a Harvard Harris poll that Elon Musk is the

(06:10):
most politically positive or liked figure in America right now,
which is fascinating because he's not even a politician as
we know. But you know, this is something that I
think we'll have a I think this could have a
really major, really major effect on what happens in this
twenty twenty four election. The fact that we will have

(06:32):
for the first time a true now for anyone saying, oh,
I'm not on Twitter. Yeah, but the Hunter Biden laptop story,
for example, could if something like that were to happen
and let's all remind everybody that the irs, from what
we understand, fired the people the team looking into Hunter
and his finances that I mean, there is there's not

(06:53):
just smoke, there's fire. There's a conflagration, and they're just
hoping you don't pay any attention to it. But let's
say something really damaging. Where to break with regard to
biding the Democrats, we know there's at least one place
where and this is all relying on Elon continuing the
mission and his new CEO, not not you know, messing
things up, but there's one place where you could go

(07:16):
where you know that people would be able to We'd
be able to share our opinions. Other people on the
right would be able to share their opinions. And I
think that's really that's really meaningful. Their ability to destroy
stories before or to suppress stories before they reach critical
mass and therefore have a political impact that is changed.

Speaker 3 (07:37):
Now.

Speaker 2 (07:37):
It's not gone, it's just it's different than it would
have been. And I think that Elon Musk, Look, it's
great that he bought Twitter. How about you know, throwing
some money into some other things. The guy's got his
hands full. I'm not I'm not. You know, I'm not complaining,
but I'm just throwing out the idea. We could use

(07:58):
a whole lot more to rebuild trust and institutions, both
on and offline, and he could be a real leader
in that. Yeah, I don't think there's any doubt. I
see this as a pretty big coup, and I'm curious
how people will respond to it. Musk will get eviscerated
right by the usual suspects on the left in this country,

(08:20):
but I'm sure musk perspective at least if I were him,
what I would say is, Hey, I want Twitter to
be the place where people come to break news, and
I don't want them to just break news with tweets written.
I want them to do video. I want them to
do audio. If Joe Biden wants to sit down with
me and have a Twitter spaces conversation, this is me

(08:41):
speaking as if I were Evel On Musk, although we
would say the same thing on this radio show. Hey,
if I'm sure we'll have Tim Scott and Ron DeSantis
at some point, I would bet this week on the
program if Joe Biden buck wanted to come on and
talk to us for an hour, I would roll out
the red carpet in a heartbeat for Joe Biden, because

(09:03):
I think that would be important for our audience, but
also for everybody else out there who would consume it
to hear what Joe Biden sounds like when he actually
gets asked questions for an hour. We've had Trump on
for an hour at a time. So the way that
I would respond, I'm already thinking ahead for Elon is
I would say, look, Joe Biden wants to sit down
and talk with me for an hour on Twitter spaces,
we'll have him too. But Elon, I believe, and our

(09:27):
staff can correct me if I'm wrong, has already said
on Twitter that he's a desantist guy. So to me,
this feels like a personal sort of, you know, stamp
of approval from Elon. And again, can you think of
a guide buck if you are running for president right now,
take it outside of your friend's family. You know that
you obviously want to support you, but a public figure.

(09:49):
Can you think of a more compelling public figure to
have endorse effectively your campaign than Elon? I mean, he's
he's the richest man in the world, he's a genius,
and and he is single handily doing more for free
speech on the Internet than any other person of the
last I don't know, twenty years. So yeah, it's pretty

(10:10):
it's pretty big, pretty big, pretty helpful. Yeah, you know. Yeah,
and we'd have Elon on the show too, by the way, Yeah, Elon,
where are you? Elon needs to come hang out with
us sometime. We sa mentioned before. But anyway, the news
that is out there now, DeSantis, for those of you
just getting in your car, supposedly, according to NBC News,
going to announce on Twitter with Elon Musk tomorrow evening.

(10:34):
And can we say DeSantis is scheduled to be on
this program Thursday, after he has already announced. We're trying
to get Tim Scott with Ted Nicky Hayley. The President
Trump has a direct dial to the program. We want
this to be a forum where everybody who's running for
president can talk directly to you guys. The Trump phone
has been set up. The Trump Phone has been delivered,

(10:57):
so to speak. He can call in any time. Wait,
we've told this team you gave it to him in person.
I did so we're you know, we're like, this is
the same. You know. Elon wants Twitter to be a
forum on the right for conservatives, for Republicans. This is
an audio forum, so we will have all the different
candidates on. We're going to have the different individuals make
their case to you. We'll hear from people, you know,

(11:19):
we had people calling yesterday. I think Tim Scott's going
to go all the way. Great, you know Whoever, I
get the occasional email that someone says they're all in
for VIVEC, which I do too. It's surprising to me,
but great, you know, Okay, I'm glad someone's all in
for VIVEC. You know. But we will maintain the rush
rule here. We do not endorse, so everyone knows exactly
where we're coming from. But I think it's going to

(11:40):
be a really fascinating conversation. And also that those the
first polls, what it would be next week, it might
might be a little bit of a lag. I mean,
you got to kind of let things settle in. But
the next two weeks or so, we'll see a first
set of real polls on where this primary stands. I
think that will be really interesting. I think it'll be

(12:01):
also super interesting to see buck how does DeSantis raise
money coming out of the gate, how much enthusiasm is
there for him. We know that he's raised a lot
of money already, and this way of announcing with the elon,
I'm genuinely curious to see because Trump has not raised
Trumpian amounts of money, right if you look at at

(12:24):
least his disclosures, he has not raised hundreds of millions
of dollars. Did he raise a billion dollars to run
in twenty twenty before Alway says a ton of money?
I can't even remember now, But yes, his fundraising has
been paltry so far in the first uh first period
of this year. That's that's by Trump numbers, you know,
by his own standards. So that will give you an
early read because again, the amount of money you spend

(12:46):
can adjust your poll numbers fairly substantially. So to your point, yes,
the early poll numbers will be interesting, But also what
do they spend? Do they go ahead and like die
full in? Because Trump is spending money against DeSantis in
a big way right now? Does DeSantis just say screw it,
We're gonna spend twenty million dollars in this first month?
I have no idea. I'm fascinated to see. I believe
Trump has spent more on OPO ads at this point

(13:08):
against DeSantis than the Trump aligned pack spent on all
the twenty twenty two elections. I think, I think that's
the uh, that's a big number. I saw that headline
to repeat that because I think it's a little bit
hard to the understand if you're not prepared. Let me,
I want to make sure that I'm that I'm squared
away with with reading the data properly in the numbers.

(13:28):
But my understanding is that Trump affiliated pack or whatever.
I have to find out the name of it, but
essentially MAGA World has spent more money against DeSantis so
far than it's spent in favor of twenty twenty two
Republican candidates. That's wild to me with that stat I

(13:51):
mean that is that is wild how much he's already spent.
And and this is where you start to say, well,
here you go, Donald trum Trumps. MAGA Inc. Super Pac
intensifies its attacks on Ron DeSantis ahead of likely entry
in the presidential race, dropping two point eight million on
attack ads, bringing their anti Desantists spend to fifteen point

(14:12):
three million, blowing past the fifteen million dollars that MAGA Inc.
Spent on all twenty twenty two midterm races from Rob
Pyres on Twitter. I've seen many others referring to this.
So Trump has spent more attacking DeSantis than the Trump
Maga packs spent on all the mid terms for Republicans.

(14:34):
I think that's interesting. So we'll see where all this goes.
And want to hear from you. What are you excited?
Do you think it's going to be a big change
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Speaker 1 (15:57):
The Torch of Truth past and still lit every day
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Speaker 2 (16:05):
Welcome back in, And by welcome back in, I mean well,
welcome in because we are on the very beginning of
the program here on the Tuesday edition. We hope that
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great country. We appreciate all of you, and we have

(16:29):
got a lot to dive into here. The fallout continues
from the NAACP saying that black and gay people should
not be considered safe in Florida. We will discuss how
insanely ridiculous that is. Our good friends on the View
have an issue with Tim Scott being a black man

(16:52):
running for office because he's been too successful compared to
other black people, according to Sonny Hostin, and so hurt.
His story is not emblematic of the black experience, according
to Sonny Hostin, who also, by the way, has made
millions and millions of dollars herself along the way, but

(17:12):
all of that still to come. Also, we're going to
be joined by a new OutKick employee, Charlie Arnault, who
is absolutely killing it. Some of you have probably seen
her on Fox News. She's going to have a new
morning show at OutKick, and she has left ESPN and
feels uniquely free to be able to speak her mind,

(17:33):
which is what I like to think this show and
certainly what OutKick as well, represents the triumph of the
First Amendment, and so we will break all that down.
She is scheduled to join us at two point thirty
in the third hour of the program, But we begin
with yet another fake white supremacy attack. Now, what I

(17:54):
mean by this is it's amazing how desperate the Biden
White House is and the FBI in the Department of
Justice to continue to label white supremacy as the biggest
threat that we face as a nation. This is a
transparent lie. Last week we played you the audio of

(18:16):
Joe Biden at the Howard University commencement address saying the
biggest threat that the United States faces is white supremacy.
Buck and I have discussed with you how that idea
coming from the Chief executive, the President of the United States,
leads to many people out there in the FBI in

(18:36):
the Department of Justice desperately seeking white supremacists. Because that's
then how you get promoted. When the Boss tells you
that this is the issue, you better go out and
demonstrate that the Boss is right. That's how you can
elevate yourself inside of the FBI. Buck, would you agree
with that, Like you have a unique experience because you

(18:56):
were in the CIA. How much does what your perier
say are the things that matter most inside of the
agency in your experience then reflected by the working people
inside of that agency. It becomes sort of a self
fulfilling prophecy, right, because you pursue it and then provide
evidence that what you were told to pursue is significant.

(19:20):
It's determinative, it's defining. It's something that when you are
told what the let's say in the CIA context, same
in the FBI. These are executive branch agencies, which means
the White House sets the priority. When the White House
would send a tasking you know, a question or we
need an update on or we need to know something,

(19:41):
that is first order of business within the intelligence community,
first order of business within federal law enforcement. Right, I mean,
which makes sense when you think about it, because they
work for the executive brand. Yes, people of you know,
we've grown used to this conception the same way that
the media we've been told is objective journalism, and we

(20:03):
all know that's a joke. Now, the fourth branch of government,
the bureaucracy, acts like a fourth branch of government, but
it's really not supposed to be, and in fact, it
is subordinate to the White House at the top of
the executive branch. So they're taking orders. In a more
specific context, when I was working Intelligence Division and YPD,

(20:24):
there were people assigned to and this was just in
case or there are people assigned to anarchist terrorism, white
supremacist terrorism, narco terrorism. They were really bored. The people
who were doing the most at that time. Now this
is back over a decade ago, were looking at Jiehattish terrorism,

(20:44):
people who were working on behalf of Isis or al
Qaido or whatever. Right, So I saw that, and honestly,
we used to make jokes about it, like, oh, yeah,
the white supremacist team, what are they up to today?
Because they weren't up to anything because there was nothing
happening because there were no white supremacists. But I think
one aspect of this that's fascinating is when is the

(21:06):
action of an individual the fault of a whole group
or something a whole group has to be reminded of constantly,
And when is it, oh my gosh, like we can't
even talk about this that would malign the whole group
in some way, you know? When is white people are
constantly told white supremacy is a huge threat. And the

(21:27):
point of telling us this. There's a lot of points
of it, but one of them is we are all
guilty in some way. That's right. We are a part
of a white supremacist system. We have to become anti
racists or else we're a part of the problem. And
I sit here and you see here, we're like some
like racist maniac who you know, whether it's you know,
it's once or twice a year or whatever it is,
who goes and shoots up a bunch of people is

(21:48):
an evil psychopath, has nothing to do with anything that
any of us think about, do care about. It's you know, politically,
has no connection, no connective tissue to what we stand
for on the right, and it gets votism in any
meaningful way. But we're lectured about it. Meanwhile, the na
sea white supremacist and uh, I'll give a hat tip
to Matt Waalash who pointed this out before I could

(22:10):
on Twitter. They find a Nazi flag inside this guy's
U haul van, which was anybody even he just drove
it into like a fence, right or I mean he
based a very slow rate of speed. And maybe we
should say the fact, we should tell everybody what happy
But first, so uh yeah, so late was it late
last night? But because when I woke up I saw

(22:32):
still the percolation of this, I believe late last night
a guy in a U haul van drove his U
haul van into a fence outside of I believe Lafayette
Park close to the White House for those of you
who know where that is. And uh, and he's now
been charged with five different crimes and among them is

(22:52):
an attempted, you know, attack on the president. So this guy,
this guy crashed a U haul into a barrier near
the White House, and we're supposed to think, oh my gosh.
The first thing that happens is they lay out, by
the way, Clay, where's that? Where's the Nashville Manifesto? Did
I miss it? Yeah? I know, Did I miss the
manifesto with all the crazy trans terrorist stuff? I don't

(23:13):
think I missed that. I think I haven't released it yet. Meanwhile,
a guy drives into a barrier outside the White House
at like nine miles an hour, okay, and they go
in and they find some Nazi flag and immediately here McKay,
the former FBI director who's fired in disgrace. But now
the libs love. Let's just give you an example this.
We'll play clip one here, because a guy runs a

(23:37):
U haul you know, at ten miles an hour into
a barrier near the White House and is saying crazy
things it's the Republican Party's fault. Honestly, Clay, we should
blame Trump. Play one.

Speaker 4 (23:46):
We've been hearing not only from the President but even
the FBI director that white supremacism, far right wing extremis
are the biggest threat to this country. And then you
look at the contents of this person's backpack and you
can't help but think, I guess they're right.

Speaker 2 (24:03):
That's absolutely right.

Speaker 5 (24:04):
And I think you have to draw a line from
this apparent attack on the White House by someone bearing
a Nazi flag to at least some of the people
It's hard to say how many, but some of the
people involved in the January sixth attack on the Capitol.
How do we know that because some of those folks
who are carrying the same sort of symbols Nazi flags,

(24:26):
Confederate flags, things like that. That shook you a commonality
of ideagy, Yeah, we get it.

Speaker 2 (24:31):
So this guy runs his U haul at ten miles
an hour into a barricade and has a Nazi flag.
It's basically a January sixth rioter, Clay and a white supremacist.
The problem is his name is ci Varshith Condula. Credit
to our friend Carol Markowitz, who was the first person

(24:52):
that I saw with this, and she also had a photo.
He has a Missouri driver's license. So we heard in
Texas it was right that the uh that the Hispanic
guy whose parents were immigrants, that he was a Hispanic
white supremacist the shooter, I think in the mall at
at Texas. And that story vanished because the white supremacy

(25:15):
connection came from a random Russian website where somebody supposedly
created a profile. But did you notice how quickly that
story vanished after like maybe a day or two of
getting play. Yeah, and now is it even is it
even true? Were there was there a single that's the
former FBI director who was fired in disgrace for trying

(25:36):
and ms who against President Trump we were planning for
just so you know that CNN now goes to some
kind of an expert. The man is an abject moral
disgrace and people should be ashamed of ever putting him
on our They should be the FBI should be ashamed
that he was ever the acting director, But the FBI
is apparently incapable of shame at the top levels these days.
Was there actually any were there any swastikas on January sixth.

(25:57):
I don't remember what were the Confederate flag because I
do remember all the attention that guy, But no, I
swats there there There were no Nazi flags that I saw.
I mean if looked, and by the way, somebody may
find there may be one somewhere. Of the thousands and
thousands of people I covered the Occupy Wall Street protests,
there were Soviet flags, you know all you know, all

(26:19):
kinds of Isis flag. There's crazy stuff going. Lunatics show
up at these things of all kinds. But I mean,
was this He makes it sound like everybody was storming
on January sixth with Nazi flags. It's just not true. Yeah, right,
And there's an attempt to try to make the Confederate
flag the equivalent of the Nazi flag on the far
left right. But here is the big takeaway. They took

(26:41):
this flag and it was eerily similar to me buck
of what they did after the mar Lago raid. They
laid out you think about usual investigations, right, They put
up a big perimeter. They sometimes put up tents to
keep people from being able to see within a few minutes.
It felt like of this van they had laid out

(27:03):
the Nazi flag on the pavement directly next to the van,
so that people could take photos and they could help
to sell the idea, which you heard Andrew McCabe go
on and television and make that argument that this was
a Nazi white supremacist attack on the White House when
it seems to be I believe this man's Indian or Pakistani,

(27:26):
something like that, and a random so a zuri Asian
guy driving his van. Obviously, I would guess buck mental
issues because you don't typically drive a Uhul van into
the White House if everything's going well with a Nazi flag.
But it doesn't add up, it doesn't fit. That's their narrative.
They were going to sell it no matter what. Yeah,

(27:48):
of course, and they wanted to get it on TV
as fast as possible because they need to feed this
narrative to their voters, to the Democrats. Democrats have to
believe as their fighting just fervently for abortion for all
nine months of a pregnancy, for general mutilation of teenagers
who have been brainwashed by transgender ideology pushed down on

(28:12):
them from schools and from media and from TikTok as
they push for an open border in the destruction of
US sovereignty and effectively nullifying what it even means to
be an American. Democrats need a hero narrative. Why are
they the good guys? Right? And why should they not
worry about any of this other stuff that's going on
around them? And the threat of white supremacy is their

(28:33):
emotional security blanket. It's all. I oppose the white supremacist,
evil Trump people, so I'm a good person. And as
the economy is crap and the country is in bad shape,
I don't have to feel any guilt for my stupid
vote back in twenty twenty because they're so bad. Do
you ever see The Last King of Scotland? You ever
see the movie Last King of Scotland? That was a

(28:54):
twenty years ago, right? Yeah? Yeah, old, maybe fifteen twenty
years ago. Great movie, highly highly recommend for anybody out there,
and if you haven't seen it, underrated. My dad actually
give him the shout out. He was the one who
told me I had to see it a long time ago.
But Clay in the early stages, and I had a
friend who was a hey. He and his family were refugees,

(29:15):
true refugees from Uganda because his dad showed up one
day at the law office and Idioman the dictator. This
all makes sense in a second, Idiomean the dictator had
taken all the other law partners were gone and they
were never seen again. Right, Idioman was making people disappear.
My friend's dad said, we're going right now. They fled

(29:36):
to Australia. But that's what a refugee is. Yeah, that's
a refugee, right, that's someone who should get asylum in
this country. But in the movie, you see there's all
these all of a sudden, there's like a you know,
it's a beautiful street scene. People are kind of drinking,
hanging out, and then a van will pull up and
they'll throw a bunch of people into the van at gunpoint.
And they just keep saying, oh, that's a Boudet men

(29:57):
i meaning a boute was the leader before Eightye means
he's power and no one's supposed to ask any questions
because oh, look, you gotta do what you gotta do
to deal with you a both amen, you know. Yeah,
And you have that going on with this white supremacist
stuff here in this country, when the Biden administration is saying, oh,
we have to be so afraid of the white supremacist
all the time. It is the shiny object meant to
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(30:20):
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We come back, We'll continue to break this down. What
is the goal here? And how quickly now will this
story vanish? Now that we have yet another I keep
kind of joking about this buck, but it's like we
keep going through the Clayton Bigsby example, that Dave Ship.
They had the funny skit back in the day on

(31:02):
The Chappelle Show they had the black white supremacist who
was blind and wasn't aware of course that he was
actually black, So he was a blind black white supremacist.
I feel like they're an awful lot of minority white
supremacist All of a sudden, God forbid, by the way,
there actually be a white supremacist out there who actually
manages an attack. I hope that never happens because there

(31:24):
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Speaker 1 (33:17):
The Truth, Compass Pointing, do right every Day. The Clay
Travis and Buck Sexton Show.

Speaker 2 (33:24):
Second hour of Clay and Buck starts right now. Everybody,
thanks for being here with us, and we need to
take a moment to talk about the situation of Florida.
You see, as a Florida resident, I walk around and
when I talk to people here you know what, there

(33:46):
are some complaints. There are some complaints. There are people
who will point out that housing prices here have gone
up a lot because of something called supply and demand.
When a lot of people want to live in a place,
then it becomes more expensive to live there because of
the housing supply. And then you hope that they build
more and then that will equalize. But right now, so

(34:09):
housing is expensive. Not a lot of snow here. So
if you like sledding with your kids, Southern Florida not
a great spot for that. You're going to enjoy life
up in New England or Montana more. If you really
want snow. We don't have seasons. But despite some of
those downsides, this is the place that is getting more

(34:32):
of an inflow from people moving, and they're overwhelmingly both
anecdotally and by the data center right people who have
just said I've had enough of democrat and madness and
I'm going to go to Florida. Now, this is also
happening with Tennessee and Texas, but Florida has been particularly

(34:55):
at the forefront of this of this phenomenon, and it's
going to be something you hear a lot about because
it's also really the calling card. It's the primary achievement
of Governor Rondez Santis, who is going to be running
for president here in just a matter of days. I
don't have any knowledge of this more than just what

(35:16):
we see in the press and what people are talking
about right now. In terms of when the announcement will be.
It's going to be this week. We all know it's coming,
and I think it's interesting that some of the argument
now is Florida was always great and people were always
moving there. It's like, guys, I need the arguments for
or against a candidate to be rooted in some numerical reality.

(35:37):
If it's going to be a numbers argument, you can
tell me you don't like a candidate. But if you
tell me that you don't like him because he's ten
feet tall, I'm going to say that's a problem.

Speaker 3 (35:48):
Right.

Speaker 2 (35:48):
But anyway, that's not really the point. The point is
there's something else going on here which I was unaware,
which is that despite the fact that this is the
state that has gotten the biggest migration of people from
across the country to it in the last three years,
you are being told now if you turn on CNN

(36:09):
and certain channels that this state, the Sunshine State, is
actually a terrorist state. For well, here is Democrat activist
Aisha Mills. Listen to this one play four.

Speaker 6 (36:24):
Extremely clever and I really appreciate the NAACP's guidance on
this issue. You know, I just took my family to
spring Break in Florida recently, and I think about all
of the folks who travel there for sun and joy
and peace and restoration and to be reminded that actually
this is getting to the point where Florida is about

(36:45):
to be a terrorist state to many of us here
in America, certainly as a lesbian, as a black woman,
I don't want to have anything to do with the place.

Speaker 2 (36:55):
What I just want to know. I would be fascinated
to find out what it is that she is. What
is the terror that she is worried about that affects
black people and lesbians in Florida?

Speaker 3 (37:10):
Like what is this?

Speaker 2 (37:12):
Even so, I really mean this, Like what Ronda Santis
is making Disney live by the same rules as every
other corporation, including you know, Universal Studios, et cetera in
the state. That's that's terrifying. For that Rondes Santis doesn't
want second graders being told about you know, uh, all
kinds of sexual stuff in the in the classroom. I

(37:33):
was I didn't have I had zero sex instruction until
high school, right and that and it was very minimal
in high school. But like there was I mean classroom instruction, right, Yeah,
what's the like, what are they even talking about, Clay?

Speaker 3 (37:48):
Like, what is this?

Speaker 2 (37:50):
Florida is a terrorist state for for for people of color,
for lgbt q I A plus people. It's actually a
booming state that's really safe relative to other states of
similar population, where people are moving from all over the
country of all races, creeds, colors, et cetera, as fast
as they can. To me, this is a perfect distillation

(38:13):
of both how a large organization, large institution ceases to
have any legitimacy because the NAACP has a very impressive history.
But if you are black and you live in Florida,

(38:34):
as the NAACP board chair does, who will play his
audio here in a moment? This goes to my point
of when an institution tells you something that you know
is not true and saying to black people, you are
not safe in Florida, and saying to gay people, you
are not safe in Florida. That's a lie. And everyone

(38:58):
who is coming to Florida, for instance, this coming weekend,
Buck for Memorial Day weekend travel and there will be
what do you think millions of people probably heading to
Florida for Memorial Day weekend? That would not surprise me.
That's probably the number they all know. This is a lie.
If you are with your family and you're black, and

(39:19):
you're walking around Universal Studios or Disney World, as tens
of thousands of black families will do, probably over Memorial
Day weekend, or you're going to Miami to go to
the beach and hang out with your friends and family,
this is a lie. And it's such a transparent lie.
And not only is it a transparent lie, buck the

(39:40):
timing on it. This is an attempt to hit Ron
DeSantis with a transparent lie right as he is preparing
to announce that he's going to run for president. And
there's audio here of the NAACP Board of Director's chair
Leon Russell. He actually lives in Florida and he was

(40:03):
asked about this. You're gonna love his response. Listen to
cut five.

Speaker 3 (40:09):
Need to understand that it's not about money, it's about people.
It's about humanity. We haven't told anybody to leave. In fact,
the NACP is encouraging folks to stay here and fight.
If there was ever a reason to stand your ground,
it's black people, LGBT community, the immigrant community. Women need

(40:30):
to stand our ground in Florida and fight and understand
that the fight is a political fight.

Speaker 2 (40:37):
Yeah, and certainly I'll cut him off there. It's certainly
a political fight. Fight buck, when you tell people not
to visit, and then when you're asked because not safe,
somebody says, hey, but you live here, And his response is,
we haven't told anybody to leave. So wait, it's safe
for black people to spend all of their time in

(40:58):
Florida and live there with their face families, but it's
not safe to visit. I mean, like this is this
is not even logically coherent. I mean, okay, there's so
much here. First of all, they hate Florida on the left,
whether it's you know, the NAACP activists or LGBTUI activists,
or you know, the mainstream sort of other Democrat entities

(41:19):
you could point to. They hate Florida because it is
super successful and being governed in a conservative fashion. That's
why they despise it. They have no problem. The problems
they have with Florida have nothing to do with oh,
it's unsafe for black people to be there, or oh
there's targeting of the LGBTQI A community or whatever. No,

(41:43):
they hate it because it's working so well, and it's
working so well based on philosophy and politics that they
don't like. But this whole thing of oh I'm scared
to go there, and you know, people are not valued
there and all that, that is total projection. It is
not sense, It is garbage. That is not the reality
of Florida at all. I mean, there are there are

(42:06):
weekends here. I mean I've been there. You go to
Miami Beach, and they're widely celebrated as being gathering you know,
gathering weekends of the black community in Florida. Yeah, right,
and and nationwide. But I mean, you know, like this
idea that it's not safe for for black people to
be in Florida is this is complete fantasy land stuff.

(42:27):
And in fact, if anything, you're looking at a state
that has been safer for everyone relative to the crime
waves that have hit other places across the country, especially
big cities. We're talking to Miami, Tampa, et cetera. And
so I just think it's interesting. This is the Democrat mindset.
They will lie about a place that is doing really well,

(42:50):
that is showing everybody a better way, and but it's
a better way Clayton, there are people. So just to
give you a sense of this, in places like Overton
in Miami, which is a historically black neighborhood. You know
what's happening in Overton right now? Black families that have
lived there maybe two three generations. They're getting a million

(43:11):
dollars for their twelve hundred square foot house. Right you know,
there should be a sense of, oh my gosh, this
is going so well, Like people are moving here, they
want to be here, people feel safer and safer. But
instead of celebrating the wins that everybody is having across
the board, they're saying it's a terrorist state for people

(43:33):
of color. And this woman said lesbians. I mean, I
hadn't heard anyone say that lesbians were scared of going
to Florida. That was new. I would bet that Florida
has way higher of a population gay wise than your
average state, right, Like, I would bet that it over
indexes for gay population as well. Yeah, I mean Miami
Beach is a historically, historically very you know, gay and

(43:56):
lesbian friendly there. There are specifically gay friendly and as
being friendly hotels or LGBTQ you know, Ray there are
there are hotels all up and down the main strip
on Collins that that have you know, fly the Pride
flag year round and are you know, welcoming to that community.
So it's just I'm just saying this is rooted in nothing.
This is spite at success because someone's doing better with

(44:19):
a different politics than they want them to. That's the reality.
I just can't get We got one more cut that
I want to play here. Maybe I'll save it when
we come back, But Buck, I just can't get past
the NAACP head. When confronted and asked, Hey, if Florida
is so awful, why do you live in in Tampa yourself,

(44:39):
his response is, we haven't told anybody to leave. Okay.
If you were really of the belief that Florida was
a terrorist state, wouldn't the first thing you would tell
people to do be to leave. It wouldn't be hey,
don't go on vacation there for some relatively short experience

(45:00):
on the ground. It would be, hey, you got to
get your boots off the ground. You've got to get
out of this state. Now, it's laughably absurd. But he's
actually not even able to follow the logic of his
organization's own statement when he's saying, we're not telling anybody
to leave, we're just telling him not to come visit

(45:20):
because it's so not safe for black and gay people. Well,
if it's so not safe for black and gay people,
you should be telling everybody to leave. That's more important
than don't come on vacation, because you're not staying permanently
if you're coming on vacation. All this is ridiculous. But
I want to play the next iteration, which is the
argument that people are dying. We'll play that when we

(45:41):
come back, Buck. But this is maybe the dumbest argument
I have seen, And I can't imagine that there's very
many black people that are seeing this argument and in
any way trusting the NAACP over it. I think they're
blowing themselves up here in slation and prices arising, and
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(47:08):
some point we're gonna have to pull together a list
of the dumbest things ever said on the view. It
would be it would be a fierce competition. We could
do like a March Madness bracket for like the and
have people vote the dumbest things ever said on that show.
Isn't it so interesting? As well? ABC likes to take

(47:29):
itself Oh my Disney, right, isn't that right? Yeah? Takes
itself very seriously, the news division and you know ABC
News and George Stefanos and the whole thing. Right, it's all, oh,
we're the news for people that are just into journalism,
and they put this show on the air every day
with no compunction, no remorse I think is a better word, whatsoever.

(47:53):
Where they're making everyone who watches it dumber, and really
they're making everyone who watches that show. You know, you
guys have experiences. I'm not gonna lie. I I remember
way back in the day, like before the internet was
even such a big thing, some of the stuff that
would be I'm not talking about the spicy stuff, but
some of the stuff that would be on HBO, like
really late at night. I mean, you know I did.

(48:14):
I watched Leprechaun four once, okay, like it was Leprechawn
in space, you know leprechan movies. I am not mad.
I didn't know they want in space, oh Ra Conn.
They made five Leprechawn movies. Just see your out. Five
was Leprekahn in the Hood, which I did. At some point,
the tiny Leprechaun was smoking a marijuana cigarette. I want

(48:37):
to get into this. So, but back in the day,
if you had, like if you were in a family
that had HBO sometimes late at night, you watch things.
You're like, I I am getting made dumber by watching this,
Like I'm actually brain cells are dying off and my
cognition is being slowed by this. I think that that
happens when people watch the view, I really do. I
think that it feeds people talking points that make them
less likely to think that are untrue, and that are

(49:00):
overall a net negative for discourse. I think it serves
no purpose other than to make very ill read, ill
informed people on the left, particularly obviously appealing mostly to women,
feel better about their ignorance and their prejudices. With that
in mind, Joy behar Joy Beaha, here she is, everybody.

(49:24):
I just want you to listen to this gem that
Joy came up with. Listen to it.

Speaker 7 (49:28):
And he's one of these guys who you know, he's
like Clarence Thomas, black Republican who believes employing hisself by
your bootstraps rather than to me, understanding the systemic racism
that African Americans face in this country another minorities.

Speaker 2 (49:40):
He doesn't get it.

Speaker 7 (49:42):
Neither does Clarence right, and that's why they're Republicans.

Speaker 2 (49:45):
Yeah, so Joy Behar, white female multimillionaire Joy Behar knows
more about what it is to be a black man
in America than Sen. Tim Scott or Clarence Thomas. That's
quite a that's quite a stretch. I have to say,

(50:06):
that's an interesting one. Look, Joy Behart could disagree with
Tim Scott's candidacy in an intelligent fashion if she were
not an imbecile. But this is the kind of racism
that actually exists. You are completely invalidating Tim Scott and

(50:27):
Clarence Thomas and their perspective by saying they don't understand
what it's like to be black men in America. You
could disagree with the pick yourself up by your bootstraps mantra,
which it's worth mentioning has been a black mantra going

(50:48):
all the way back, I think to W. E. B.
Dubois back in the day it may have been pronounced
du voyce back in the day. I don't know. I
wasn't an expert in the you know, early nineteen hundred's,
late eighteen hundred's black empowerment. But Booker T. Washington, there
are tons of black leaders who have advocated zealously for

(51:14):
generations that the best way for the black, the black uplift,
the best way to build from slavery and develop economic
opportunity is actually through individual self reliance. That has been
an incredibly strong argument for generations in the black experience,

(51:39):
and certainly there are people who would oppose it far
more intelligently than joy Behar. But Buck, this is what
passes for left wing. You heard everybody. I think we
cut it off before the end. But joy Behar was
applauded by that audience. This is, as I believe, George W.
Bush said, the soft bigotry of low expectations. The idea

(52:03):
here is that Tim Scott and Clarence Thomas, two very
successful black men. One is Supreme Court justice, the other
a senator, both of whom were raised in extreme poverty,
who have lifted themselves up to among the highest levels
of American government. That their unique individual experiences and what

(52:26):
they have learned that allowed them to achieve what they
have is somehow not a permissible opinion to have in America.
And also joy Behar's expectation that those men would not
be aware of what racism is or what the cost
of racism can be is also just it's flagrantly insulting.

(52:53):
But joy Behar said, what many different people on the
left believe this is actually racist? Where does it also
leave people? So so if you're going to negate and
think of what the real mentality is here? And Clarence
Thomas writes about this eloquently in his autobiography that that
the truth the condescension from white liberals was always the

(53:16):
thing that he found the most galling, the most just
you know, really really deeply bothered him because they thought
it was better and it was really just about themselves, right,
It's about, oh, you know, I'm a good person, so
I want to go and give people who are you know,
less fortunate, give them the oh, oh it's all going
to be okay. The condescension that comes across from from

(53:38):
from white liberals is something that is very common, very present.
But also where does it leave people to say that
if you uh that you shouldn't try to be bettering yourself,
Like what what what's the what is the alternate theory
of the case here? You know what I mean? What
what is Joy Behar says, Oh, you know, let's pull
up your bootstraps thing. What's that all about? Like, that's

(54:01):
not because of systemic racism? So should people give up
because of systemic racism?

Speaker 1 (54:05):
Is that? What is the.

Speaker 2 (54:06):
Philosophy that they replace people that want to empower every
black man and woman, every person in the country with
individual responsibility. Your life is in your hands. Life is
not fair, Okay, there's a lot of things that are
not fair. You could say that there even if you
believe in systemic racism, which I do, but actually not
in the way that the left thinks that systemic racism exists.

(54:29):
It's actually in a very different direction. But even if
you believe in systemic racism, Okay, life is unfair, you're
gonna tell people to just be a victim, to whine
all the time, to expect other people to fix it
for them, because there are a lot of people. You know,
people are born, you know, people are born and into
situations where they have you know, serious disease they have
to overcome. They're born into poverty of all different races,

(54:51):
they're born with a parent who's an alcoholic and who's abusive,
or maybe you know two parents who are abusive, and
they have to overcome that. And you can either tell
them it's within all of our power to become the
best version of the human being that he or she is,
or you can say, cry, whine despair and maybe Joe
Biden will fix your life for you. This is not

(55:12):
gonna happen. So it actually just infantilizes everybody, everybody, no doubt,
that's exactly what it does. And it also tries to
convince people that the government is their savior. Right, I mean,
that's the implicity, and that's the point, right, that's the
implicit argument of Joy Behar. Is you, you poor minority

(55:32):
in this particular situation, You poor black man, you poor
young black child. You have no hope to succeed in
this country because white supremacy is so overwhelming and stultifying
that it dominates every single aspect of your life. Thus
you must beg for help from your government, which you

(55:55):
don't control. I don't know who came up with the
phrase but I've been using it and I try to
use it with my boys as often as I can.
The only, uh, the only thing you can control, the
only hand you can rely on, is the one at
the end of your sleeve. Right, somebody may give you help.

(56:17):
I hope it happens. I hope somebody extends their hand
and gives you an opportunity that you wouldn't otherwise receive.
But the only thing that you can rely on, the
only hand that you can rely on, is the one
at the end of your sleeve. And So this idea that, oh,
the government's the great savior, Oh the Government's going to
ride in and provide something for you that your own

(56:41):
individual work ethic cannot is a lie. And it's also,
to your point, Buck, such a devastating lie because what
it treats and allows you to believe is that your
failure is entire preordained, right like you have no hope,
no aspirational opportunity in life because of something you didn't

(57:05):
control at birth, which is your race, your gender, who
your parents are, where you started. It's I mean, one
thing totally defeating. And this is this is a far less,
far less serious I think than what we're folksing right now.
But I come across this and I've I've learned this now,
and you can never I know who understands this world
very well will agree. Even you know, fitness is not fair,

(57:31):
people have it is reality. Everyone always says, oh, it's
about this and that and how you work. Yeah, that's
all true. But some people are gifted, some people have
more to work with. Some people put on muscle faster,
some people put on fat faster. Some people are taller,
some people put You know, everyone is We are all
unique snowflakes. Everyone is different. You can sit around and
complain and be like, why aren't I six five and

(57:53):
ten percent body fat and have a metabolism that, or
you can just work the best with what you've got
and lived the best life you have. These are two
different philosophies. You can sit around and complain all day,
you know. I mean, Clay and I wish that we
were just blessed with forever six packs. Well maybe Clay
has one, but I wish I could dunk a basketball buck.
I could have spent every single hour of my youth,

(58:15):
right teenage into my twenties training Remember Jimmy the shoes
that Jimmy on Seinfeld war that were supposed to make
him like a better Remember the Rebock pumps. Those were
gonna ask you jump, Oh you're I mean everybody got sold.
I mean the idea that if you wear this tennis shoe,
you're gonna be able to jump like Michael Jordan or whatever.
It's a successful marketing ploy, right. But I could have

(58:37):
done everything under the sun. I was never gonna be
able to dunk a basketball. I didn't have the physical
ability to do it, right, So I could sit around
and be like, oh woe is me? Or like every
other person out there, you try to find something that
you do have a talent in and develop it to
the best of your ability. That's what the goal of Yes,

(59:00):
I think about it now as the goal of a parent, right,
So what the goal of a teacher should be? Fine,
unique talents, push kids toward their talent that allowed them
to excel. And so this defeating and we'll play this
sunny hostin clip too from the view when we come back,
the Left is ultimately selling to all of your kids
and grandkids the idea that they cannot excel without the

(59:24):
help of the government. And that's a lie. You know,
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