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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome everybody. Monday edition of Clay and Buck kicks off
right now, and man, we are in the Thanksgiving holiday
week already, signed is flying. A lot of us will
be flying. Apparently the biggest travel season ever ever is anticipated,
like thirty million people are going to be moving about
(00:21):
for Thanksgiving this year. So we're talking to you more
about that. I'm out after today, so you've got Clay
for a couple of days, getting you prepared for Turkey Day.
He's going to be talking to you about the deliciousness
of cranberry sauce. He will probably be defending some of
the more idiosyncratic Thanksgiving sides of the South, including what
(00:43):
is it the green bean cast role that you all
like so much? That's always the one that I see.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
I made it clear that I'm very anti green bean,
so that's the one food that I just I think
is always awful.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
No matter what, there are a lot of Tennesseeans. I'm
just gonna say, whenever they put out that chart, there
are a lot of Tennessee and discreet you in the Northeast.
We've uh, well, I live in Florida now, but formerly
fairly love rolls. That's the big thing we're big Norman
people in the midding.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
I think I think the biscuit and roll is maybe
the greatest thing the South is given to America. So
I'm even disputing what the guidelines are there.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
And I'm I'm even gonna say this. We're about to
get into all the news by the way, just to
be clear, But I just Thanksgiving. Yeah, But because it's
my last day before thanks Kevin, I'm already thinking about
the Thanksgiving feast. I'm a big fan of when the
cranberry sauce maybe it's accidental, maybe it's not, and you
mix it a little bit with the gravy and you
get this kind of salty sweet I don't know. It
sounds weird, but it works on the plate. I'm just
(01:38):
telling you, all right, it is a birthday today. You know.
I have my brother Mason's birthday coming up, and I
have it coming up in a few days, have my
little brother's birthday over the weekend. So happy birthday to
Keats and a Mason coming up. But there's a birthday
that a lot of people are focused on right now, Clay,
because you know, it sort of goes right to the
center of the biggest political discussion of the country right now,
(02:00):
a lot of poll numbers out, a lot of discussion underway.
Everyone keeps asking me, I've never had so many people
way in on any of our steake bets. I'm just
gonna let you know. I got people who just like,
oh man, Clay is right, and they're like, oh man,
you got to take him to the cleaners when he
has to buy you a stake both sides of will
Biden be Biden, Kamala be the nominee or will there
(02:22):
be something else going on with Democrats? Today is Joe
Biden's birthday. Happy birthday, Joe Biden eighty one years old, everybody,
he is eighty one, and as it stands right now,
he'll be running for his second term as president of
the United States. We've got a lot to talk about.
Also on the primary side, Trump's numbers, all the rest
(02:44):
of it. But you know, CNN had this headline up
Biden's birthday prompts debate about age and wisdom of America's
oldest president. And this comes at a time there's a
lot of these editorials. Clay, Here's I got a couple
broad thoughts. I want to share this with you, and
then I know you got some data to break down
for us. I think that Democrats have realized finally, like
(03:09):
those who thought maybe there was something else that was
going to happen, the window is now closed for there
to be normal process to replace Joe Biden. That is
basically gone now. The only things that could happen would
be break the glass plans because they don't have time
to get a primary done. They don't Democrats don't have
time to do a normal process of replacement and running
(03:32):
an election and all the rest of it. They can't
get on the state balance. With that in mind, Clay,
the Trump numbers right now, what do you make of
it versus Biden? I mean, yeah, so here is the
so my big analysis here as we sit eleven months out,
is the story of Joe Biden has shifted from he's
(03:53):
an empty vessel who's a non Trump candidate, which is
effectively what they ran in twenty twenty in the basement campaign.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
But they got the benefit of COVID and I think
in the same way that Jimmy Carter and rest in
peace Rosalind Carter, who died over the weekend at ninety
six years old. Whatever you think of Jimmy and Jimmy
Carter's presidency. He and Rosalind had one of the great
marriages in all of American political history. It does seem
quite clear, and I read Buck that they still live
(04:23):
in the same house in Plains, Georgia that they built
in nineteen sixty one. Jimmy Carter might be the only
former president who didn't get fabulously wealthy off being President
of the United States, and anybody out there listening's life basically,
but in the same way that Jimmy Carter was an
accidental president in the aftermath of Watergate, I think COVID
(04:46):
made Joe Biden an accidental president. And the data, as
you reference in that CNN poll, other than Trump, who
obviously the polls hated in twenty twenty, no incumbent president
in any of our life has been in as rough
as shape as Joe Biden is in right now. And
here is the Harvard Harris pole that just came out,
(05:08):
that is coming out on Joe Biden's eighty first birthday, Buck,
and this is now showing the biggest lead that Donald
Trump has ever.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Had that I remember in a national poll.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Trump is up six in the poll that just came
out today fifty three to forty seven. If RFK Junior
is added to the mix, Trump is up eight, and
if RFK Junior, Cornell West and Jill Stein, who is
the Green Party candidate, is added, Trump is up nine.
These are uh oh, break the glass moments for the
(05:44):
Democrat Party, I think, buck and that's why I believe
that increasingly there is going there.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
It seems to me as we.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Move through this holiday season, a lot of people are
going to be sitting around over Thanksgiving, over Christmas, and
then over New Years. I think by the time we
come back post New Years, presuming that these numbers haven't
really shifted much, and I don't think they will have,
there's going to be an acknowledgment that Democrats have to
figure out a way to get Joe Biden off the ticket.
(06:14):
And I thought that it would be Biden announcing he's
not running, and everybody gets on and they have a
real primary debate over who the candidate should be. We've
missed that deadline. You think that they're just going to
stick with Joe Biden. I think to break the glass
moment is here. Things are so bad that they're not
going to trot him out, and I think they're going
to come up with a candidate. Michelle Obama is my
(06:37):
fear at the Democrat National Convention this summer. There's a
lot going on here. It's funny because this is one
where now I just see people, you know, I play
some tennis to the friend this week, and this is
the thing that everyone asked. This is the number one question,
much more so than anything about the primary and Trump
and Desantists and all the rest.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
People say, is it going to be Biden? You know,
I have one brother, for example, who thinks it will
be Biden, another who thinks it won't be Biden. So
I sit here and I'm like, okay, this is this
is now the center of political gravity in the country,
and this is what everyone's thinking about it. Let me
let me give you first off Ron DeSantis over the weekend.
Now you could obviously he's got his own feelings on
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this because he wants to be president and he wants
to be the nominee for the Republicans. This is cut three.
Here's the here's a case that he is. You know,
let's be a little contrarion here for a second. Let's
open up the possibility that there might be something we're
not seeing. This is what Governor Santis of Florida says,
play three.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
I wouldn't be running unless I thought that the Democrats
would beat Trump if he were the nominee. I mean,
they're going very easy on him right now. I mean
they're they're not saying much the minute. If he were
to be the nominee, I mean, you're gonna see scorched earth.
You're going to see all this stuff brought up from
the past, and the whole election will end up being
a referendum on Donald Trump and Biden will be able
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to hang out in the basement, and I think he'll
be able to get away with it. Again. Look, the
presidency is not a job for somebody that's pushing eighty
years old. I just think that that's something that has
been shown with Joe Biden. Father time is undefeated. Donald
Trump is not exempt from any of that.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Okay, now we can we just put out he's basically saying, yeah,
Biden's too old. But to a lot of voters, not
Trump people obviously, but a lot of voters in the middle,
they're going to say, well, basically, Trump is, you know,
as old. We can make the case and we do that.
He's much more with it and all the rest of it.
But Clay, I look at twenty twenty two as a
warning sign where everything look like Democrats they're going to
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get crushed. They're so you know, they're the polls look
terrible for them. Inflation is the worst it's been in
forty years. Twenty twenty two is really disappointing. Twenty twenty
three off your election pretty disappointing. Even though we are
where we are with Biden the Democrats, are we being
lulled into false confidence on twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
I've said and I still believe that if Ron DeSantis,
Nikki Hayley, Vivek Ramaswami, or Donald Trump or the nominee
running against Joe Biden, I think all four of those
guys would win. I have had thoughts that DeSantis shared
there about Donald Trump's electability over this past year, certainly
in the wake of twenty twenty two. But here's where
(09:17):
I think things have changed. Biden is going to be
the story. I think it's going to be hard to
hide Joe Biden because again, think about twenty twenty it's
almost always a referendum on the incumbent now they'll try
to make twenty twenty four a referendum on Trump, but
boss with the legal system erectively as the primary weapon,
(09:41):
which is, by the way, why I also don't believe
that they're going easy on Trump. Only in a Trump
world could we say going easy on Trump is trying
to put him in jail for the rest of his
life and being underway.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
To be fair to what the DeSantis was saying there,
I think he meant the media hasn't gone full end
of democracy. Fascism is upon us the way that they
will once those trials are going on. The trials aren't
happening right now.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
I don't think it works, and I think it doesn't
work because everybody's made up their mind about Trump, and
I think what Trump is benefiting from buck A lot
of people want to go back to pre COVID America,
a lot of people right now. And this is why
I think young people are actually supporting Trump too. If
you go back and look at twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen,
(10:31):
and twenty nineteen, January of twenty twenty is probably the
strongest the United States has ever been in the history
of our republic. When you look at the economy. When
you look at the safety around the world pre COVID,
it's hard to even comprehend how good our economy was.
(10:57):
Inflation didn't exist, Why Black Asian, Hispanic record employment, record wages,
A lot of you out there two and a half
three percent mortgages instead of seven and a half or
eight where we're sitting right now. There wasn't a massive
twenty plus percent price increase on everything in the United States.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
We were at peace.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
I think a lot of people nostalgically now buck are
looking back and saying, yeah, you know, I didn't like
some of the things that Trump did, but the controversy
surrounding Trump seems small when we're basically in a world war.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Here's here's what we can't leave out of it, though, right,
I agree with you, and I used to. I've said
this before. When I was doing radio solo in twenty nineteen.
I would tell the audience people like, stop, you sound
like you're euphoric. I would say, guys, this is about
as good as it's gonna get for the country, so
enjoy it. We're at peace. The economy is kicking butt.
We've got a president who you know, is trying to
do the best he can for the country and not
(11:59):
like the global unity or you know, the UN or whatever.
And then obviously COVID hit. But since COVID hit Clay,
you know, you have you've had a few things, You've
had a few changes.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Right.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
If you're if you're going to go back in time
five years, you have to take into account. One the
way that January sixth will be used in this election cycle,
which yeah, it was used in the midterm, but it
hasn't really Donald Trump wasn't on the ballot. They're going
to bring all of that back, the legal onslaught against Trump.
I think that we think right now that that's working
(12:32):
at Trump's favor. But there's polling that's we we and
we love all the polls, except the polls that say
Trump loses in every swing state if he's convicted, Right,
I I just don't Yes, I just don't agree with
you that I don't believe it. But I'm just saying
I don't think we can just discount that because we
don't like it or we you know, my gut and
your gut are aligned on that one. But the numbers.
We love all these numbers except those numbers. And I
(12:53):
think we have to be fair minded about well, you know,
maybe there's maybe there's some risk there to the analysis.
And then you know you obviously the abortion issue, which
has been a tough one for Republicans, tougher than I
thought it would be. I'll be honest. I thought that
I thought that it would be less of an issue
than it has been in some of these elections. So
there are some things that make it. You know, I
don't think that people are going to transport their minds
(13:15):
back to twenty nineteen necessarily. And also, the economy can
change a lot between now and next year, whether it
does in reality or just does in perception. I mean, Democrats,
you know this. They're gonna they're gonna pull out the
money gun. They're going to be spraying taxpayer cash around,
and I think they're going to start to bring rates down.
There a lot of things that's going one hundred percent
(13:36):
happened starting in about March. They're going to start to
pull down rates, and Biden's going to say we beat inflation.
The mortgage rates are going to tick down a point
and a half, and he's going to claim that they're
on the way back to two and a half or
three percent. I think all that's gonna happen. Uh.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
By the way, tell us which you think eight hundred
and two A two two eight a two. What are
we missing? If anything? I think basically, and I'll build
on this a little bit when we come back, Buck.
To me, everybody's already made up their mind what they
think about Joe Biden and what they think about Donald Trump.
So I think the idea that you're going to in
some way alter what people think is going to be challenging.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Can I just throw this in there. I think you're
right about ninety call it ninety seven percent of the electorate. Yeah,
two or three percent of the electorate's going to determine
the election. The whole thing, the billions of dollars, everything
that's going to happen between now and next November is
going to come down to probably a half a million
people over six states something like that. You're probably right,
(14:31):
that's that, by the way, that's that's high. I mean
some people would say it'll come down to you know,
one hundred and one hundred and fifty thousand people.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
The one thing I'll say, Buck, is we go to
break here that I've been surprised by is the number
of people who say they're willing to change their mind.
That's the one thing I didn't factor in because obviously,
if you swing Biden to Trump, and I'm not seeing
very many people say I'd swing Trump to.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Biden, let's talk about that too.
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Speaker 1 (15:43):
Of sanity in an insane world, Clay Travis said buck Sexton.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Welcome in Ourtumber two Monday edition of the program. Appreciate
all of you Hey out with us. Would encourage you
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Speaker 1 (16:05):
You can go. Grab my name, Clay Travis buck Sexton.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
I know it is the holiday season, a lot of
you officially out on the roads. It is expected to
be potentially the busiest Thanksgiving in air travel in history. Buck,
I know that tomorrow you will be a part of
that air travel universe. I will be a part of
that air travel universe as well. I'll also be driving
(16:29):
back on Sunday with my family. So a lot of
you out on both the airwaves and on the interstate
system all over the country. Take us with you, Clay
Travis buck Sexton. You'll be able to listen to us
anywhere in the world, anywhere around the country. Maybe maybe
I have heard that some dads and moms out there
(16:51):
with particularly loud children in the car, mate might occasionally
be driving with earbuds in as there are kid movies
and iPads and everything else playing and what could be
and will one day drive Buck Sexton, Mad cacoffinous sounds
of children's programming all throughout the cars, the vehicles, the
(17:15):
airport terminals.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Take us with you.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
You can search out my name Klay Travis, buck Sexton.
You can also get Tutor Dixon, Carol Marco. It's Tutor.
By the way, we'll be in Friday for a live
show on the program. I think you guys will really
enjoy her and Buck and I will be out on Friday.
The rest of the week will be here, so Buck,
Bill Maher, that's a good question for you. I think
(17:40):
Bill Maher has the best job in media. Agree or disagree.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
The best we have in media, Clay, you can have
the best job, and we have.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
We have incredible jobs. Maybe I should say best job
in media paycheck wise relative to the amount of of
actual content that he puts out. We have to work
our butts off. He gets the show off once a
week for a show, up once a week for an.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Hour and writers.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Yeah, how good do you think a show if we
had to do one show a week and we had
a writing staff of like ten or fifteen, I mean,
I love that Bill Maher does the show that he does.
I think it's very well done. But these John Oliver's
the Bill Mahers, We're doing fifteen hours a week of
live radio. They're not even live, right, that thing's taped.
(18:30):
And Bill Maher makes eight figures to do that show. Yes,
that's what I'm saying for relative to amount of work,
I think he's got the best job in media. But
one of the things that he does a good job of,
I think buck is he actually gets people, oftentimes to
reveal themselves. And this was an aside. I don't think
it was a big part of a major discussion. But
(18:51):
Donna Brazil, who has spent years telling everyone out there
that Donald Trump is uniquely racist, that he's a white supremacist,
that country will not be able to survive if Donald.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
Trump, he was a Fox contributor for a while. He
was she was.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
She was paid millions of dollars to go on Fox
and tell everyone that Donald Trump was awful.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
She was a Democrat. I don't dislike her. I mean,
that's her job.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
And she was on Bill Maher and this was the
discussion as they as they were were basically debating the
Veke Ramaswami. It turned into a discussion about the way
his name should be pronounced, and Donna Brazil said he
should just go back where he came from.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
Listen to this. The vek needs to just set the
hell up and go home.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
On all.
Speaker 4 (19:44):
Okay, it's it's the vague whatever would say that about
I'm don the vegue?
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Is it by Vek Rama Sa ram Rama Sami? Thank
you so much. I know there was so much when
I come on this show, I know the Veke, the
ve needs to go home. I agree it.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
I just I just feel like there's something wrong with
everybody refusing to learn to say his name.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
I just feel there's a little racism there. Okay, interesting
that he threw that. He threw that at the end,
and I think that it actually look we're not going
to start doing with the left goos. That's racist. That's racist.
But the South Asian commune, So when people talk about
South Asia, they're generally referring to India, Pakistan, Bangladesh. Some
(20:38):
people would also Sri Lanka's in there as well. But
you know, South Asian community in the US is substantial,
and you don't really uh, you don't really get to
claim oppression in the same way that some other groups
do in this country. For from the South Asian community, Yeah,
it's it's just reality, right, I mean.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
They and the Asian community period. You don't get to
claim that anything is like you're white adjacent, you're This
is where the left says, if you're Taiwanese, if you're
if you're from Korea, if you're from you know, if
you're sort of a you know, upper middle class South
Asian immigrant to the US, or come from a family
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you know like that, you don't get to you don't
get special privileges to say whatever you want though, same
way that some other groups do. That's that's what you
actually get it used against you, Which is one of
the Supreme Court decisions that just came down. Asian people
are actually less likely to get into elite institutions than
even white people based on mostly East East Asians when
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they were looking at that data. So that's Chinese, Japanese, Korean,
and and you know Taiwanese.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
So that that's a that's a reality. But I think
it's interesting, first of all, the Bill Mark threw that
at the end he's carved out a Elaine for himself
as a guy who is still a Democrat but not
willing to go completely insane. And it's interesting to see
how that plays out on the show with people who,
you know, try to take some of these positions that
(22:09):
are effectively indefensible when you have anybody who still lives
in the real world and is still sane. But yeah,
I think that you know, first of all, why does
a Democrat care about a Republican prime you know what
I'm saying. It just seems kind of dismissive and strange
to me. And even though I don't think Vivek is
going to be president, and I don't necessarily I wouldn't,
(22:35):
you know, high five, some of what he's sort of
taken as positions at different times, or rather the multiple
positions will take on a different issue. I like him,
You like him on a personal level, and I think
he's been an interesting voice in the primary. So what's
the problem, Like, why be dismissive of this guy? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (22:50):
And it's one thing to be dismissive of someone because
you think their ideas don't make sense. So if Donna
Brazil had said, I mean Vivek Ramaswami position on Finnel
and talking about the northern border being insecure, and she
wanted to attack him on that, or she wanted to
attack him on the idea of birthright citizenship or whatever
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you want to disagree with someone on, more power to you.
It's marketplace of ideas. I don't presume that every idea
that I have is genius. I understand that other people
are going to disagree attack him, but attacking him based
on what his name is is really really weak. I mean,
and and to not even be willing to get his
(23:34):
name right. And look, I'm not the pronunciation expert. I
will readily admit that I mispronounced things all the time
on this try to get it right. I'm trying to
get it right. I'm not dismissing someone because of their name.
And it's just uniquely interesting who gets identity politics protection.
If the veg Garamaswami had ridiculed Kamala Harris and Barack
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Obama based on their name and refuse to pronounce them
correctly and said they needed to go home, that would
be considered any Republican not vivague. But that would be
considered a racist and nativist attack, and it would be
everywhere on MSNBC, and it would be everywhere on CNN.
I mean, considered the way that they covered Trump using
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the word vermin. Can you imagine if Trump consistently refused
to pronounce Barack Obama's name correctly, or consistently refuse to
pronounce Kamala Harris's name correctly. I mean, it would be
a regular trope that they would trot out of evidence
of his racism. There are lots of things to disagree
with on the veke. And by the way, it's also
(24:40):
lazy of Donna Brazil because you're going on a political
show to share political commentary with an audience of millions
of people. Being able to pronounce the person's name that
you're going to talk about is the bare minimum of research,
all right.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
I mean I used to when I did sports.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
It would always stun me the number of times that
people couldn't pronounce an athlete's name correctly. And you know,
it's not the end of the world to mispronounce the
name for somebody who's new that you don't know, but
basic research would demand that you be able to pronounce
someone's name correctly.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
I'll just you know, to put a sort of a
finishing touch on this, Donna Brazil said what she said
and knew when she said it, and will continue to
know this going forward, that she's she has the ability
to say this like she's not going to get in trouble.
Democrats aren't going to come after her. She can make
(25:39):
fun of a Vig's name and no one cares. So
you know, this is the world we live in today
in America. By the way, it is amazing. Speaking of pronunciation,
I expect to be deluged with pronunciation emails over this one.
Gloria emailed you Buck near the end of today's broadcast. Buck,
you's the word mischievous and pronounced it just like I did,
(26:04):
which makes some of us cringe. The correct pronunciation is mischievous.
I I don't know that there is any audience in
America that cares about your pronunciation. This is just this
Alli just sent us this email.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
This is from Gloria says uh that I just because
we're talking about Vivacan pronunciation, you evidently have have have
come into Gloria's poor graces here, Buck over your pronunciation.
I would say mischievous too. Is there not multiple pronunciations allowed?
Speaker 3 (26:41):
There?
Speaker 2 (26:41):
Is it mischievous? I mean we're gonna have to do
research on this to find out.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
I don't even know if I care enough to google
it right now, that's how I feel about it. I'll
just throw that out there. I don't even know if
you can get my fingers to type out the type
out the letters so we can figure. I think mischievous
is the is the preferred pronunciation, so I could I
can leave it to that way. I will mention too.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
I got a great email from someone who said, you
guys have way too many guest hosts. I got that
email this morning and I was like, I don't think
we've had a guest host in a year.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Yeah, well we have a guest host that like Christmas
and that's it.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Well we got Tutor on Friday, Oh Friday, sorry black
and Christmas.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
You know that they're right.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
But I emailed her back and I was like, you know,
there's lots of things I actually occasionally emailed back, lots
of things you could criticize. I was like, I don't
think we've had a guest host on this show. You
or I have been in every day for a year
basically since basically since New Year's.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
Of last year. Because Michael Barry was in was in
on July fourth for us from uh host out Houston.
Okay day, it's been a while. Yeah, so I don't
I don't think that's the criticism.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
We can have pronunciation maybe, but we come back, we'll
take some of your calls, will allow you to react,
let us know what we're mispronouncing. But you're right, Donna,
Brazil will have no content, neces. No one will even
talk about it.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
I want to. I know one took the no one
seems to really take in debit on my my arena
music shows are almost always overrated because they're like sitting
up in the stands, and I like them. By the way,
I completely disagree with that take. Yeah, no, go ahead,
it's all right, Clay, you're you're You're free to be
wrong on this take. That's fine.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
I like big concerts in arenas and stadiums because of
the sheer magnitude of the spectacle. Now, if you're talking
about would you rather be in a venue with like
three hundred people in it, yes, But if you're talking
about would you buy a ticket for a twenty thousand
seed arena or for a stadium, Certainly, to me, the
(28:40):
production value of the performance is pretty cool, right.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
So the stage not seeing out eye on this one.
But I want to know if we see the II
on the I on the next one, and what our
audience thinks here. I love this piece in the Wall
Street Journal about whether loved ones this holiday season should
pay up, whether people should pick up their loved ones
at the airport. Is this what And especially for some
(29:08):
of the guys out there, you know, I know what
this is like. You got a fiance, or you got
a you know, a lady friend, or you know a
wife that expects the pickup from the airport. Now, hey,
I'm on your side, comes down, comes down heavy on
this one. We can dive into this when we come back.
I want everybody to take ubers everywhere. And this has
(29:28):
turned into a major point of contention with my wife,
who is unhappy that I will put are soon to
be sixteen year old in an uber as opposed to
spending two hours to go drive and pick him up. Uh.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
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Speaker 1 (31:20):
Slash Clay from the front lines of freedom and truth,
Clay Travis and Buck Sexton. Third Hour of Clay and
Buck kicks off right now, and we have our friend
Stevin Miller with us. He is the founder of America
(31:41):
First Legal, a former senior advisor in the Trump White House,
and a various stute and wise fellow. Mister Miller, good
to have you back.
Speaker 5 (31:51):
Thank you appreciate the introduction.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
So we have some big stuff going on at the border,
or continuously happening at the border, as in it's the
most wide open that it has ever been, the most lawless.
It's a massive problem. If you look at the polling
for Biden the Democrats going into twenty twenty four, and
former President Trump has put out some pretty big ideas
(32:15):
and I know you've been amplifying them for what he
would do in his second term. Can you take us
through some of those, because I'm seeing talk of widespread deportations,
for example, and I'm a very serious escalation in that.
How would that work? Can we get it done?
Speaker 5 (32:31):
Yes? We can, And here's exactly how it would work.
So the way that interior enforcement works right now, well
under Biden, does not even happening at all. But the
way it works historically is you have targeted enforcement actions
focusing on specific, high priority individuals. So you work up
(32:54):
specific packages against specific people, and then you case them
and you follow them around, you carry out the arrest
you would need to, which would involve a massive increase
in personnel, in evolving the National Guard, involving DEA atf FBI,
state local and sheriffs as well too. You would need
(33:15):
to switch to indiscriminate or large scale enforcement activities, basically
going into any place where there's no congregations of illegals
and holding everybody on site, determining who's there illegally, and
then taking people who are there illegally into federal detention.
But the key part here to understand, and of course
(33:36):
you would still continue to do all of the targeted
enforcement as well, it would be an end not an ore.
The key part though, to actually being able to effectuate
the removals is to have large scale detention facilities to
carry out the removals, because this isn't like when Eisenhower
did it in the nineteen fifties when it was a
(33:58):
strictly bilateral problem. Two countries were involved in the United States
and Mexico. That was it. So logistically it's pretty simple, right,
where is everybody going to go to Mexico? Now, if
you were to do a hypothetical raid at say a
food processing facility, you might get illegal aliens from two
dozen different countries. And each one of those illegal aliens
(34:21):
has a different complicated fact pattern in terms of do
they have a US citizen spouse, do they have a
US citizen child, do they have some pending of filing applications,
so on and so forth, And so you need to
be able to then take all these individuals into an
interior staging facility to be able to then line up
(34:41):
get the deportation order and then align up with the
flight out of the country. So to achieve efficiency at scale,
The way this would work is you try to co
locate everybody in massive facilities, probably near your existing border infrastructure,
so you would go to where you have your border
patrol facilities, and this way you able to say, Okay,
Every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday are our flight's back to
(35:04):
the Northern Triangle. Every Tuesday and Thursday are our flights
to South America. Every Saturday and Sunday are our flights
to Africa. Right once a week, we do a flight
to India. Once a week, we do a flight to China,
so on and so forth. And that way, as you're
getting people who've been here for different lengths of time,
in different factional circumstances and everything else, when their case ends,
(35:25):
whether it be in an hour or a week, when
it ends, there'll be a plane ready and fooled up
and ready to go and take them home. The only
detail I'll add to this, and I can obviously talk
about it for an hour, but is that President Trump
has also said that he would invoke a stattute that's
been on the books since the John Adams administration, which
(35:47):
allows you to deport any alien H fourteen or older
without due process if there's a declared state of incursion,
a predatory incursion, or invasion that country. So this is
an extremely powerful tool that waives to process whether it's
a state of invasion or a state of a quote
(36:09):
predatory incursion. And obviously under Biden, there is now multiple
countries with invasions and predatory incursions into the United States,
and so that would be an additional story that you'd
be able to use to expedite these removals.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
Stephen, you know the border better than I would bet
almost anybody in the country in terms of how to
handle the situation there. You obviously be very highly involved
in any Trump administration twenty twenty four. Obviously, the polls
out there look incredible right now for Trump. He's up
in basically every single national poll I've seen. We've all
(36:43):
discussed in great detail how well.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
He's doing in swing states.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
We consistently, however, get emails from people out there who
say it doesn't matter that Democrats are going to rig
the system again. How confident are you again? You're plugged
in as well as anybody that the voting systems are
going to be cleaner and more reliable in twenty twenty
(37:09):
four than they were in twenty twenty or are you
confident in that? That's I would say, I bet Buck
would agree. One of the number one questions we get
about the twenty twenty four election, is it going to
be safer and more secure by far than twenty twenty.
What's happened to change that? How would you assess and
answer that question.
Speaker 5 (37:29):
Well, there's obviously some red states that have implemented important
election reforms, and that's something that we should all celebrate.
But it's still the wild West, as we know, in
so many blue states like Nevada for example. But number one,
this is going to be this is going to be
a forever problem. Right, So people need to internalize the
(37:51):
fact that as long as there are radical leftists in
this country, they are going to try to sabotage the
machinery of our elections in any state they can control.
And even if you fix things, you know, one you're
like to fix things in Pennsylvania, right, Well, eventually they'll
take control again in Pennsylvania and they'll destroy it all
over again. And so you have to do two things,
(38:13):
and this is these are two things that President Trump
is absolutely committed to you're doing. Number one is you
have to build a world class ballot harvesting operation to
try to and this is an expression we've known for
many years, right, you have to try to beat the
cheap you have to overcome the margin of fraud that
you're going to do anticipate. And then the second thing
(38:35):
that you have to do is obviously put together a
world class legal team so that when the time comes
for election challenges that you're in their heart. You're in
there early, you're in there aggressively. But the reality is
is that this is going to be a permanent, forever problem,
and so there's no there's no way of pretending that
(38:55):
you could choose some other course or choose some other
tax and you're not going to have to deal with this.
The reality is that it's going to keep happening. It
is going to continue happening. And the answer for the
Republican Party is everywhere you can fix the election laws,
you fix them, and everywhere you can't, again like Nevada,
where it really is the wild West, and there's no
way to fix them in Nevada because of the composition
(39:18):
of the legislature and the governor's office. Then you just
have to fight fire with fire, and you have to
drop box, and you have to ballot harvest, and you
have to do all of that and with such a
sophistication and the degree of financing that again that you
beat the cheap And the reality is that the President
Trump is the best positioned candidate by orders of magnitude
(39:39):
to be able to bring out the millions with an
m the millions of voters that are the gold mine
in ballot harvesting, and those are voters that are known
as low propensity, high affinity, in other words, voters that
are very unlikely to vote but totally love you. That
is how you win elections with ballot harvesting is before
(40:03):
election day, collecting millions and millions of ballots from the
voters who love you but almost never vote. That's the key.
Right there, We're.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
Speaking to Steven mill of America First Legal and Steven,
I want to give you this opportunity to uh wish
President Biden a happy birthday. He's eighty one today. And
a little bit more seriously, if you would just tell
tell us where do you come down and all this
because you've got all this chatter from a lot of
Democrats about how there has to be a plan B,
and I just sit here and I keep asking, Okay, well,
(40:32):
what would the plan be be?
Speaker 5 (40:36):
They don't have it. There's no there's no safe landing
spot for them, and any notion there's an easy way
to force Botle out and then force Kamala Harris out
and then nominate some other Democrat. The datas are taking by,
the months are taking by. There's no clean removal operation
(40:57):
available to anything or anybody at this point in time.
So they are screwed, no matter how you look at it.
And we all hear about this, this Gavin Newsom fantasy,
which again involves convincing Joe Biden to give up the
one thing that he's coveted for his entire adult life,
above anything and everything else, and then to convince Kamala
(41:18):
Harris to become maybe there's some other historical president, I
can't think of it, at least the first vice president
in memory, just to completely bow out because she's loathed
and hated by voters, and then to install Gavin Newsom,
who would have to run defending the California record at
a time in which those issues are front and center
in America's minds in terms of crime, in terms of education,
(41:42):
in terms of the cost of living. I mean, it
would just be a calamity for Democrats because everybody in
tuitive the understands the California has gone to hell, that
Los Angeles has gone to hell, and so on, and
so I think that they're just trapped. They have a
candidate whose mind is flipping away by the day, who
can barely even function, and there is no way at
(42:04):
all they have They have only two poisoned Chiles as
the Jews from Biden are the most complicated candidate replacement
operation in the history, and both are completely at this
point calamitous for Democrats.
Speaker 2 (42:19):
Steven Miller with us right now, Stephen, where do you
stand on picking people up at.
Speaker 1 (42:24):
The airport.
Speaker 5 (42:26):
In terms of if.
Speaker 2 (42:28):
A hard do you think we've had a big debate about.
This is a holiday season. Let me set let me
set the tables for you. It's a holiday season gonna
be one of the biggest I thought, you're.
Speaker 5 (42:36):
Asking me how I fool about picking illegal aliens up
at the airport. I think I'm strongly opposed to that.
Speaker 1 (42:41):
I love that that we discouraged that.
Speaker 2 (42:44):
Uh, so Buck and I are of the opinion that
holiday travel, it is a disaster to try to drive
to an airport to pick someone up, right like the
coming in for the holiday or whatever. Get an uber,
get it, get a lift, manage to not have to
add a person.
Speaker 5 (43:02):
Should be asking anyone to pick them up at the
airport as a general matter. So number one is a
person you should never be known as the person who
picks up people at the airport. I haven't picked up
anybody but my immediate nuclear family at the airport basically
in my entire life. Unless you're my wife or my children,
I'm not picking you up at the airport. The only
(43:22):
exception to that that I've ever made, which I would
advise any intelligent man to make, would be for my
inn loss. But that would be it. But you don't
want to be known as a mark that's going around
to pick people up at the airport, let alone the holidays.
There's one hundred different ways to get to drive from
the airport home at this point in time. So I'm
strongly opposed to it. But again there's reasonable exceptions in
(43:43):
the interest of welfare in the home, and obviously if
you're interellocked me to ride at the airport. You're just
going to have to suck it up and do it.
Speaker 2 (43:52):
I knew that you would have a totally logical analysis here,
because much of what you do is completely logical from
a political perspective.
Speaker 1 (43:59):
You're on the right here.
Speaker 2 (44:00):
Like this, this whole idea of driving people to the
airport and picking people up is it's it's really just
become an infestation in its own.
Speaker 5 (44:08):
Like nineteen seventy nine, Why is anybody in your twenty
twenty three asking anybody to help them get to and
from the airport, Like this is a novel experiment that
we don't know how to get to and from the
airport on our own. I mean, I suppose if you
lived in like deep deep deep out on the country
and there is just no possible way. That's different. But
if you're living in or around or near any kind
(44:30):
of major city, you need to be getting yourself to
and from the airport. And there's something wrong with you
if you're putting that kind of pressure on your friends,
if you're saying, like, hey, I'm coming on Christmas Eve,
you completely drop everything you're doing and driving hours of
traffic to pick me up at the airport and then
wait in line for forty five minutes and then get
told by people in yellow and orange vess every five
minutes that you need to move or you're gonna get toed.
You're gonna get ticketed. Who's asking anybody to do that.
Speaker 1 (44:51):
It's so well said. Happy Thanksgiving to you. We'll talk
to you again soon.
Speaker 5 (44:56):
Steven, Happy Thanksgiving Godlass.
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Speaker 1 (46:06):
No one should pick you up at the airport, Narl Roads,
curb space, and long waits at the cell phone lot.
We make the people we love endure a lot when
we visit. This is Wall Street Journal piece by Nikki Waller,
and she starts it off with wanna be a hero
this holiday season? Get yourself home from the airport. I'm
(46:30):
just throwing this out there, Clay, because there are people
out there I have encountered this in the past who think, oh,
you have a car, and in your major metropolitan area,
you could drive that car to that airport to pick
up your family when they're visiting over Thanksgiving or Christmas
or whatever without stopping to think. First of all, that's
(46:53):
going to be a giant pain in the butt, and
second of all, it makes it worse for everybody else.
Speaker 2 (46:59):
I'm going tonight to pick up my oldest son when
he comes back from he's been in Chicago for the weekend,
and when I pick him up, it's going to be
pure chaos at the airport. I'm going to spend probably
two and a half to three hours to pick him up.
I am and this is this is not unique. I've
(47:19):
been arguing this for a long time. I think that
everyone should take an uber or a lyft when you
arrive at the airport. Take care of it yourself. It's
relatively easy to do. I understand. Back in the day
when there weren't that many taxicabs in many places, and.
Speaker 1 (47:36):
There are good public transit options too, from places like
JFK and LaGuardia. Now you can take air tran. You know,
there are other depends on the city where Look. If
it's the South Bend Airport, you know, go pick somebody up. Fine,
major metro airports. Making your loved one go out to
JFK Thanksgiving Wednesday night, the night before Thanksgiving is torture. Okay,
(47:56):
it's torture. You should get to their house on your own.
Speaker 3 (47:59):
Now.
Speaker 2 (48:00):
Certain exceptions, young children, babies, elderly people. But ninety five
percent of everybody who's traveling should be able to get
their own uber and l This is gonna be This
might be the most controversial take that we've ever had
on this show, because I guarantee you there are people
that are super fired up about this. The chaos at
the airport. You can't I'm already terrified about going tonight
(48:22):
because i know I'm not even gonna be a I'm
gonna have to pick up my kid at the departures
area because you can't even get into the arrivals area.
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Speaker 2 (49:39):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show Buck throwing
bombs coming after a Renam Music's music performances, saying he
doesn't want anybody to get picked up at the airport
to sleep there. Uh uh and if you can't, you
can't get a ride, it's on you. I I am
so in favor of no one getting picked up at
the airport. I also am not a big fan of
(50:01):
dropping off at the airport. I think in an Uber era,
Uber and Lyft have changed transportation fundamentally, and I think
a lot of people haven't caught up with it because
the idea of driving somebody to the airport or picking
someone up at the airport. I'm talking about an adult,
like a functional adult. Now, would you feel different if
(50:22):
you were single and you were dating. Would you make
the effort to go pick up or would you tell
girlfriend or dating partner, hey, figure out a way to
get home.
Speaker 1 (50:33):
This was what this is When I had the feud Carrie,
My wife is very reasonable and we understand there's no
point whether you're in Miami or New York, there's no point.
Speaker 2 (50:45):
Oh you're married now. But when you first started dating Carrie,
did you tell her hey, like, I don't do airport trips.
Speaker 1 (50:51):
Oh, no, I don't do airport trips. Yeah, you just
tell her that, like early on. Yeah. I think you
need to establish that expectation right away, unless for some reason,
you know, you're really close and there are obviously exceptions
these rules. Yeah. I remember also, in my my single life,
many many many years ago, got into a pretty big
argument with someone who was flying into JFK, and I
(51:13):
was just like, it's a Friday, I'm not driving into
I'm not driving out to JFK and then driving back,
I'll hit traffic both ways. I'll be in the car
for four hours take a cab that did not go
over well. So she was coming specifically to visit you, No,
just coming back to New York. Oh you are already dating.
Speaker 2 (51:31):
Yeah, and she expected for you to go to the
airport to pick her up and you were like, yeah,
that's no, not happening.
Speaker 1 (51:37):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (51:37):
And how much longer did the relationship ask after last?
After that fight?
Speaker 1 (51:41):
Like months? I don't know, not very long. I'm not
gonna say this was like the end, but it didn't.
It didn't really go go too much longer. I'd say
this as well. Since we're on since we're on the subject,
we're talking airports, airplanes. Don't worry everybody, Pete, Buddha, Judges,
FAA has got you covered. It's gonna be great. Give
me no problems. I'm gonna be tweeting up a store.
I'm sure tomorrow when I'm when I'm caught and all
(52:02):
of a sudden, they'll be saying there are weather delays.
You'll say, wait, but there's no what's going on? They say, oh,
And then we'll find out that there's like a lack
of air traffic controllers or staff or whatever. It's always
a mess. I mean air travel. It's just it feels
like it gets worse every year recently. I don't know
what else to say. It feels like it just keeps
getting worse. And but I'm gonna I'm gonna put this
out there. Does see I this may be controversial, Okay, fine,
(52:25):
but I haven't yet. I feel like I haven't stepped
into a bear trap yet today on these ones. So
because we have some people calling in to agree with me,
some of the early boarding folks, some of the early
boarding folks I think are taking advantage of the good
one hundred a lot of early boarding that is inappropriate.
I'm seeing. I'm seeing people who are like, oh, I
got an early board. I look at them, like early board.
(52:48):
You look at you just finished a triathlon? What are
you talking You got early board? You know I'm not
talking about Just to be clear, this is not a
military service personnel. This is when they're doing if you
need help, you know. And then you see people with
like a walker or a wheelchair, and you know they're
they're elderly people in the wheelchair. They're getting on the plane. Okay, fine,
But I see people who are like, yeah, great, I'm
(53:09):
just gonna go bored. I want to be like, excuse me, Like,
what is this Southwest? That really matters? On Southwest Airlines
because there are no assigned seats. There are sometimes where
you're waiting to get on a Southwest Airlines flight and
like seventy five people are early boarding. So you see
this too. You don't think I'm crazy? You think early
boarding is being abused?
Speaker 2 (53:27):
No, I mean I get it if you're in a
wheelchair and you know, you have a broken leg, or
you're ninety four years old and you're traveling, like, yes,
I understand it. But if you've got like four bags
and to your point, you look like you just you know,
like finished a triathlon and you're boarding, and you know,
then you get on and you've managed to you know,
(53:48):
take a whole row on a Southwest flight, I think
it's definitely being abused because I mean, who says no.
I think if you request early boarding, it doesn't I
don't think they really grill you one why you need
early boarding.
Speaker 1 (54:01):
I think it's a default. Yes. I feel like we're
a society where we wish we could use the honor
system on things, but there are a lot of dishonorable
people out there. Man, a lot of people taking a
lot of people trying to bring their emotional support peacock
on the plane, you know, people doing crazy things.
Speaker 2 (54:18):
By the way, the other thing on the pickup. Because
I'm still fired of about this. I also like to
look to see whether a flight is on time or not,
because go the only thing worse than going to pick
someone up is going to pick someone up driving like
an hour and then the flight's gonna you find out
the flight's.
Speaker 1 (54:38):
Gonna be delayed three hours. So then what do you do.
Speaker 2 (54:40):
You sit in the cell phone waiting lot, You go
to some crappy restaurant that you otherwise would not have
gone to, somewhere near the airport because typically the areas
around airports are not super nice. So then you got
to drive another twenty five or thirty minutes to somewhere
that go that you would never go. I don't understand
why this isn't default I and I was even saying
(55:01):
off air I don't like you know, I had my
book tour and they're like, hey, we want to book
travel for you. We'll have somebody waiting for you with
a with a sign. And I don't even like that
because so often the driver goes to the wrong place,
and then you're on the phone trying to find your driver.
I just want to take an Uber every time I
(55:24):
arrive at any airport to wherever I want to go,
and I don't really want to even have to worry
about trying to involve anyone else other than pulling my
phone out in doing it.
Speaker 1 (55:32):
You don't want to have to look for that sign
that says mister Gali weekets and have a driver tell
you it's actually doctor Galakowitz.
Speaker 2 (55:39):
Do you remember what brand did that ad? Bud Light, Yes,
because but used to do the best ads on TV
in the Super Bowl year in and year out, because beer
companies used to try to make you laugh instead of
convincing you that dudes with penises were the woman of
the year. I think there's a whole I think we've
(56:01):
played on this show the Real Men of Genius ads before,
which were all so funny, and then the Core's Light
We like cheerleaders and football and quarterbacks getting sacked like
that whole ad. I showed it to my kids and
they were like, Wow, these were fun. Because we've entered
into such a woke we can't offend anybody culture. Oh
(56:23):
the cheerleader is pretty and look men like to drink
beer and look at pretty girls. That hasn't changed. That's
never going to change. That's basic biology. Yet the beer
companies have decided, oh, we shouldn't do that anymore. I
really think every brand in America could just go back
to what worked in the eighties and the nineties, and
(56:45):
it would work way better now because there's a desperate
demand for it.
Speaker 1 (56:49):
And then when you get.
Speaker 2 (56:50):
Attacked by all these losers online, you actually should ridicule
them because they aren't representative of the larger American population.
Just and the Victoria's secret thing. While I'm on my my,
oh wow, he's fired up everybody, my soapbox is perfect
on this. It turns out that fat chicks with penises
(57:12):
in lingerie didn't make anybody want to have sex more
or buy more lingerie. You know, like remember when they
were like, We're gonna have a bunch of Androgyni's fat
chicks selling lingerie, And you're like, I, I don't think
there's a lot of women out there that think, oh,
I'm gonna look like a fat chick when I put
on lingerie. And I don't think there are any men
(57:32):
out there that are like, you know what I want.
I want a person that might be a dude wearing
lingerie to convince me to buy this for my wife. Like,
this was the stupidest campaign in the history of mankind.
Everybody wants to look better looking than they are. Right,
there aren't fat superheroes.
Speaker 1 (57:51):
I mean fashion. Fashion is aspirational, right, I mean yes
of us?
Speaker 2 (57:56):
Partis imagine how Superman wouldn't be very super if you
weigh four hundred in twenty pounds and he was trying
to wear a licersuit and you couldn't see you apps well,
midmby he identifies as super you don't know. That would
certainly be a different kind of movie. But this whole
idea is drive me crazy.
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Welcome everybody. Monday edition of Clay and Buck kicks off
right now, and man, we are in the Thanksgiving holiday
week already, signed is flying. A lot of us will
be flying. Apparently the biggest travel season ever ever is anticipated,
like thirty million people are going to be moving about
(00:21):
for Thanksgiving this year. So we're talking to you more
about that. I'm out after today, so you've got Clay
for a couple of days, getting you prepared for Turkey Day.
He's going to be talking to you about the deliciousness
of cranberry sauce. He will probably be defending some of
the more idiosyncratic Thanksgiving sides of the South, including what
(00:43):
is it the green bean cast role that you all
like so much? That's always the one that I see.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
I made it clear that I'm very anti green bean,
so that's the one food that I just I think
is always awful.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
No matter what, there are a lot of Tennesseeans. I'm
just gonna say, whenever they put out that chart, there
are a lot of Tennessee and discreet you in the Northeast.
We've uh, well, I live in Florida now, but formerly
fairly love rolls. That's the big thing we're big Norman
people in the midding.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
I think I think the biscuit and roll is maybe
the greatest thing the South is given to America. So
I'm even disputing what the guidelines are there.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
And I'm I'm even gonna say this. We're about to
get into all the news by the way, just to
be clear, But I just Thanksgiving. Yeah, But because it's
my last day before thanks Kevin, I'm already thinking about
the Thanksgiving feast. I'm a big fan of when the
cranberry sauce maybe it's accidental, maybe it's not, and you
mix it a little bit with the gravy and you
get this kind of salty sweet I don't know. It
sounds weird, but it works on the plate. I'm just
(01:38):
telling you, all right, it is a birthday today. You know.
I have my brother Mason's birthday coming up, and I
have it coming up in a few days, have my
little brother's birthday over the weekend. So happy birthday to
Keats and a Mason coming up. But there's a birthday
that a lot of people are focused on right now, Clay,
because you know, it sort of goes right to the
center of the biggest political discussion of the country right now,
(02:00):
a lot of poll numbers out, a lot of discussion underway.
Everyone keeps asking me, I've never had so many people
way in on any of our steake bets. I'm just
gonna let you know. I got people who just like,
oh man, Clay is right, and they're like, oh man,
you got to take him to the cleaners when he
has to buy you a stake both sides of will
Biden be Biden, Kamala be the nominee or will there
(02:22):
be something else going on with Democrats? Today is Joe
Biden's birthday. Happy birthday, Joe Biden eighty one years old, everybody,
he is eighty one, and as it stands right now,
he'll be running for his second term as president of
the United States. We've got a lot to talk about.
Also on the primary side, Trump's numbers, all the rest
(02:44):
of it. But you know, CNN had this headline up
Biden's birthday prompts debate about age and wisdom of America's
oldest president. And this comes at a time there's a
lot of these editorials. Clay, Here's I got a couple
broad thoughts. I want to share this with you, and
then I know you got some data to break down
for us. I think that Democrats have realized finally, like
(03:09):
those who thought maybe there was something else that was
going to happen, the window is now closed for there
to be normal process to replace Joe Biden. That is
basically gone now. The only things that could happen would
be break the glass plans because they don't have time
to get a primary done. They don't Democrats don't have
time to do a normal process of replacement and running
(03:32):
an election and all the rest of it. They can't
get on the state balance. With that in mind, Clay,
the Trump numbers right now, what do you make of
it versus Biden? I mean, yeah, so here is the
so my big analysis here as we sit eleven months out,
is the story of Joe Biden has shifted from he's
(03:53):
an empty vessel who's a non Trump candidate, which is
effectively what they ran in twenty twenty in the basement campaign.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
But they got the benefit of COVID and I think
in the same way that Jimmy Carter and rest in
peace Rosalind Carter, who died over the weekend at ninety
six years old. Whatever you think of Jimmy and Jimmy
Carter's presidency. He and Rosalind had one of the great
marriages in all of American political history. It does seem
quite clear, and I read Buck that they still live
(04:23):
in the same house in Plains, Georgia that they built
in nineteen sixty one. Jimmy Carter might be the only
former president who didn't get fabulously wealthy off being President
of the United States, and anybody out there listening's life basically,
but in the same way that Jimmy Carter was an
accidental president in the aftermath of Watergate, I think COVID
(04:46):
made Joe Biden an accidental president. And the data, as
you reference in that CNN poll, other than Trump, who
obviously the polls hated in twenty twenty, no incumbent president
in any of our life has been in as rough
as shape as Joe Biden is in right now. And
here is the Harvard Harris pole that just came out,
(05:08):
that is coming out on Joe Biden's eighty first birthday, Buck,
and this is now showing the biggest lead that Donald
Trump has ever.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Had that I remember in a national poll.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Trump is up six in the poll that just came
out today fifty three to forty seven. If RFK Junior
is added to the mix, Trump is up eight, and
if RFK Junior, Cornell West and Jill Stein, who is
the Green Party candidate, is added, Trump is up nine.
These are uh oh, break the glass moments for the
(05:44):
Democrat Party, I think, buck and that's why I believe
that increasingly there is going there.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
It seems to me as we.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Move through this holiday season, a lot of people are
going to be sitting around over Thanksgiving, over Christmas, and
then over New Years. I think by the time we
come back post New Years, presuming that these numbers haven't
really shifted much, and I don't think they will have,
there's going to be an acknowledgment that Democrats have to
figure out a way to get Joe Biden off the ticket.
(06:14):
And I thought that it would be Biden announcing he's
not running, and everybody gets on and they have a
real primary debate over who the candidate should be. We've
missed that deadline. You think that they're just going to
stick with Joe Biden. I think to break the glass
moment is here. Things are so bad that they're not
going to trot him out, and I think they're going
to come up with a candidate. Michelle Obama is my
(06:37):
fear at the Democrat National Convention this summer. There's a
lot going on here. It's funny because this is one
where now I just see people, you know, I play
some tennis to the friend this week, and this is
the thing that everyone asked. This is the number one question,
much more so than anything about the primary and Trump
and Desantists and all the rest.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
People say, is it going to be Biden? You know,
I have one brother, for example, who thinks it will
be Biden, another who thinks it won't be Biden. So
I sit here and I'm like, okay, this is this
is now the center of political gravity in the country,
and this is what everyone's thinking about it. Let me
let me give you first off Ron DeSantis over the weekend.
Now you could obviously he's got his own feelings on
(07:16):
this because he wants to be president and he wants
to be the nominee for the Republicans. This is cut three.
Here's the here's a case that he is. You know,
let's be a little contrarion here for a second. Let's
open up the possibility that there might be something we're
not seeing. This is what Governor Santis of Florida says,
play three.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
I wouldn't be running unless I thought that the Democrats
would beat Trump if he were the nominee. I mean,
they're going very easy on him right now. I mean
they're they're not saying much the minute. If he were
to be the nominee, I mean, you're gonna see scorched earth.
You're going to see all this stuff brought up from
the past, and the whole election will end up being
a referendum on Donald Trump and Biden will be able
(07:55):
to hang out in the basement, and I think he'll
be able to get away with it. Again. Look, the
presidency is not a job for somebody that's pushing eighty
years old. I just think that that's something that has
been shown with Joe Biden. Father time is undefeated. Donald
Trump is not exempt from any of that.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Okay, now we can we just put out he's basically saying, yeah,
Biden's too old. But to a lot of voters, not
Trump people obviously, but a lot of voters in the middle,
they're going to say, well, basically, Trump is, you know,
as old. We can make the case and we do that.
He's much more with it and all the rest of it.
But Clay, I look at twenty twenty two as a
warning sign where everything look like Democrats they're going to
(08:35):
get crushed. They're so you know, they're the polls look
terrible for them. Inflation is the worst it's been in
forty years. Twenty twenty two is really disappointing. Twenty twenty
three off your election pretty disappointing. Even though we are
where we are with Biden the Democrats, are we being
lulled into false confidence on twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
I've said and I still believe that if Ron DeSantis,
Nikki Hayley, Vivek Ramaswami, or Donald Trump or the nominee
running against Joe Biden, I think all four of those
guys would win. I have had thoughts that DeSantis shared
there about Donald Trump's electability over this past year, certainly
in the wake of twenty twenty two. But here's where
(09:17):
I think things have changed. Biden is going to be
the story. I think it's going to be hard to
hide Joe Biden because again, think about twenty twenty it's
almost always a referendum on the incumbent now they'll try
to make twenty twenty four a referendum on Trump, but
boss with the legal system erectively as the primary weapon,
(09:41):
which is, by the way, why I also don't believe
that they're going easy on Trump. Only in a Trump
world could we say going easy on Trump is trying
to put him in jail for the rest of his
life and being underway.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
To be fair to what the DeSantis was saying there,
I think he meant the media hasn't gone full end
of democracy. Fascism is upon us the way that they
will once those trials are going on. The trials aren't
happening right now.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
I don't think it works, and I think it doesn't
work because everybody's made up their mind about Trump, and
I think what Trump is benefiting from buck A lot
of people want to go back to pre COVID America,
a lot of people right now. And this is why
I think young people are actually supporting Trump too. If
you go back and look at twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen,
(10:31):
and twenty nineteen, January of twenty twenty is probably the
strongest the United States has ever been in the history
of our republic. When you look at the economy. When
you look at the safety around the world pre COVID,
it's hard to even comprehend how good our economy was.
(10:57):
Inflation didn't exist, Why Black Asian, Hispanic record employment, record wages,
A lot of you out there two and a half
three percent mortgages instead of seven and a half or
eight where we're sitting right now. There wasn't a massive
twenty plus percent price increase on everything in the United States.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
We were at peace.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
I think a lot of people nostalgically now buck are
looking back and saying, yeah, you know, I didn't like
some of the things that Trump did, but the controversy
surrounding Trump seems small when we're basically in a world war.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Here's here's what we can't leave out of it, though, right,
I agree with you, and I used to. I've said
this before. When I was doing radio solo in twenty nineteen.
I would tell the audience people like, stop, you sound
like you're euphoric. I would say, guys, this is about
as good as it's gonna get for the country, so
enjoy it. We're at peace. The economy is kicking butt.
We've got a president who you know, is trying to
do the best he can for the country and not
(11:59):
like the global unity or you know, the UN or whatever.
And then obviously COVID hit. But since COVID hit Clay,
you know, you have you've had a few things, You've
had a few changes.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Right.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
If you're if you're going to go back in time
five years, you have to take into account. One the
way that January sixth will be used in this election cycle,
which yeah, it was used in the midterm, but it
hasn't really Donald Trump wasn't on the ballot. They're going
to bring all of that back, the legal onslaught against Trump.
I think that we think right now that that's working
(12:32):
at Trump's favor. But there's polling that's we we and
we love all the polls, except the polls that say
Trump loses in every swing state if he's convicted, Right,
I I just don't Yes, I just don't agree with
you that I don't believe it. But I'm just saying
I don't think we can just discount that because we
don't like it or we you know, my gut and
your gut are aligned on that one. But the numbers.
We love all these numbers except those numbers. And I
(12:53):
think we have to be fair minded about well, you know,
maybe there's maybe there's some risk there to the analysis.
And then you know you obviously the abortion issue, which
has been a tough one for Republicans, tougher than I
thought it would be. I'll be honest. I thought that
I thought that it would be less of an issue
than it has been in some of these elections. So
there are some things that make it. You know, I
don't think that people are going to transport their minds
(13:15):
back to twenty nineteen necessarily. And also, the economy can
change a lot between now and next year, whether it
does in reality or just does in perception. I mean, Democrats,
you know this. They're gonna they're gonna pull out the
money gun. They're going to be spraying taxpayer cash around,
and I think they're going to start to bring rates down.
There a lot of things that's going one hundred percent
(13:36):
happened starting in about March. They're going to start to
pull down rates, and Biden's going to say we beat inflation.
The mortgage rates are going to tick down a point
and a half, and he's going to claim that they're
on the way back to two and a half or
three percent. I think all that's gonna happen. Uh.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
By the way, tell us which you think eight hundred
and two A two two eight a two. What are
we missing? If anything? I think basically, and I'll build
on this a little bit when we come back, Buck.
To me, everybody's already made up their mind what they
think about Joe Biden and what they think about Donald Trump.
So I think the idea that you're going to in
some way alter what people think is going to be challenging.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Can I just throw this in there. I think you're
right about ninety call it ninety seven percent of the electorate. Yeah,
two or three percent of the electorate's going to determine
the election. The whole thing, the billions of dollars, everything
that's going to happen between now and next November is
going to come down to probably a half a million
people over six states something like that. You're probably right,
(14:31):
that's that, by the way, that's that's high. I mean
some people would say it'll come down to you know,
one hundred and one hundred and fifty thousand people.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
The one thing I'll say, Buck, is we go to
break here that I've been surprised by is the number
of people who say they're willing to change their mind.
That's the one thing I didn't factor in because obviously,
if you swing Biden to Trump, and I'm not seeing
very many people say I'd swing Trump to.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Biden, let's talk about that too.
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Of sanity in an insane world, Clay Travis said buck Sexton.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Welcome in Ourtumber two Monday edition of the program. Appreciate
all of you Hey out with us. Would encourage you
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Speaker 1 (16:05):
You can go. Grab my name, Clay Travis buck Sexton.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
I know it is the holiday season, a lot of
you officially out on the roads. It is expected to
be potentially the busiest Thanksgiving in air travel in history. Buck,
I know that tomorrow you will be a part of
that air travel universe. I will be a part of
that air travel universe as well. I'll also be driving
(16:29):
back on Sunday with my family. So a lot of
you out on both the airwaves and on the interstate
system all over the country. Take us with you, Clay
Travis buck Sexton. You'll be able to listen to us
anywhere in the world, anywhere around the country. Maybe maybe
I have heard that some dads and moms out there
(16:51):
with particularly loud children in the car, mate might occasionally
be driving with earbuds in as there are kid movies
and iPads and everything else playing and what could be
and will one day drive Buck Sexton, Mad cacoffinous sounds
of children's programming all throughout the cars, the vehicles, the
(17:15):
airport terminals.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Take us with you.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
You can search out my name Klay Travis, buck Sexton.
You can also get Tutor Dixon, Carol Marco. It's Tutor.
By the way, we'll be in Friday for a live
show on the program. I think you guys will really
enjoy her and Buck and I will be out on Friday.
The rest of the week will be here, so Buck,
Bill Maher, that's a good question for you. I think
(17:40):
Bill Maher has the best job in media. Agree or disagree.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
The best we have in media, Clay, you can have
the best job, and we have.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
We have incredible jobs. Maybe I should say best job
in media paycheck wise relative to the amount of of
actual content that he puts out. We have to work
our butts off. He gets the show off once a
week for a show, up once a week for an.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Hour and writers.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Yeah, how good do you think a show if we
had to do one show a week and we had
a writing staff of like ten or fifteen, I mean,
I love that Bill Maher does the show that he does.
I think it's very well done. But these John Oliver's
the Bill Mahers, We're doing fifteen hours a week of
live radio. They're not even live, right, that thing's taped.
(18:30):
And Bill Maher makes eight figures to do that show. Yes,
that's what I'm saying for relative to amount of work,
I think he's got the best job in media. But
one of the things that he does a good job of,
I think buck is he actually gets people, oftentimes to
reveal themselves. And this was an aside. I don't think
it was a big part of a major discussion. But
(18:51):
Donna Brazil, who has spent years telling everyone out there
that Donald Trump is uniquely racist, that he's a white supremacist,
that country will not be able to survive if Donald.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
Trump, he was a Fox contributor for a while. He
was she was.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
She was paid millions of dollars to go on Fox
and tell everyone that Donald Trump was awful.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
She was a Democrat. I don't dislike her. I mean,
that's her job.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
And she was on Bill Maher and this was the
discussion as they as they were were basically debating the
Veke Ramaswami. It turned into a discussion about the way
his name should be pronounced, and Donna Brazil said he
should just go back where he came from.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
Listen to this. The vek needs to just set the
hell up and go home.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
On all.
Speaker 4 (19:44):
Okay, it's it's the vague whatever would say that about
I'm don the vegue?
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Is it by Vek Rama Sa ram Rama Sami? Thank
you so much. I know there was so much when
I come on this show, I know the Veke, the
ve needs to go home. I agree it.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
I just I just feel like there's something wrong with
everybody refusing to learn to say his name.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
I just feel there's a little racism there. Okay, interesting
that he threw that. He threw that at the end,
and I think that it actually look we're not going
to start doing with the left goos. That's racist. That's racist.
But the South Asian commune, So when people talk about
South Asia, they're generally referring to India, Pakistan, Bangladesh. Some
(20:38):
people would also Sri Lanka's in there as well. But
you know, South Asian community in the US is substantial,
and you don't really uh, you don't really get to
claim oppression in the same way that some other groups
do in this country. For from the South Asian community, Yeah,
it's it's just reality, right, I mean.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
They and the Asian community period. You don't get to
claim that anything is like you're white adjacent, you're This
is where the left says, if you're Taiwanese, if you're
if you're from Korea, if you're from you know, if
you're sort of a you know, upper middle class South
Asian immigrant to the US, or come from a family
(21:18):
you know like that, you don't get to you don't
get special privileges to say whatever you want though, same
way that some other groups do. That's that's what you
actually get it used against you, Which is one of
the Supreme Court decisions that just came down. Asian people
are actually less likely to get into elite institutions than
even white people based on mostly East East Asians when
(21:42):
they were looking at that data. So that's Chinese, Japanese, Korean,
and and you know Taiwanese.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
So that that's a that's a reality. But I think
it's interesting, first of all, the Bill Mark threw that
at the end he's carved out a Elaine for himself
as a guy who is still a Democrat but not
willing to go completely insane. And it's interesting to see
how that plays out on the show with people who,
you know, try to take some of these positions that
(22:09):
are effectively indefensible when you have anybody who still lives
in the real world and is still sane. But yeah,
I think that you know, first of all, why does
a Democrat care about a Republican prime you know what
I'm saying. It just seems kind of dismissive and strange
to me. And even though I don't think Vivek is
going to be president, and I don't necessarily I wouldn't,
(22:35):
you know, high five, some of what he's sort of
taken as positions at different times, or rather the multiple
positions will take on a different issue. I like him,
You like him on a personal level, and I think
he's been an interesting voice in the primary. So what's
the problem, Like, why be dismissive of this guy? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (22:50):
And it's one thing to be dismissive of someone because
you think their ideas don't make sense. So if Donna
Brazil had said, I mean Vivek Ramaswami position on Finnel
and talking about the northern border being insecure, and she
wanted to attack him on that, or she wanted to
attack him on the idea of birthright citizenship or whatever
(23:11):
you want to disagree with someone on, more power to you.
It's marketplace of ideas. I don't presume that every idea
that I have is genius. I understand that other people
are going to disagree attack him, but attacking him based
on what his name is is really really weak. I mean,
and and to not even be willing to get his
(23:34):
name right. And look, I'm not the pronunciation expert. I
will readily admit that I mispronounced things all the time
on this try to get it right. I'm trying to
get it right. I'm not dismissing someone because of their name.
And it's just uniquely interesting who gets identity politics protection.
If the veg Garamaswami had ridiculed Kamala Harris and Barack
(23:57):
Obama based on their name and refuse to pronounce them
correctly and said they needed to go home, that would
be considered any Republican not vivague. But that would be
considered a racist and nativist attack, and it would be
everywhere on MSNBC, and it would be everywhere on CNN.
I mean, considered the way that they covered Trump using
(24:17):
the word vermin. Can you imagine if Trump consistently refused
to pronounce Barack Obama's name correctly, or consistently refuse to
pronounce Kamala Harris's name correctly. I mean, it would be
a regular trope that they would trot out of evidence
of his racism. There are lots of things to disagree
with on the veke. And by the way, it's also
(24:40):
lazy of Donna Brazil because you're going on a political
show to share political commentary with an audience of millions
of people. Being able to pronounce the person's name that
you're going to talk about is the bare minimum of research,
all right.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
I mean I used to when I did sports.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
It would always stun me the number of times that
people couldn't pronounce an athlete's name correctly. And you know,
it's not the end of the world to mispronounce the
name for somebody who's new that you don't know, but
basic research would demand that you be able to pronounce
someone's name correctly.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
I'll just you know, to put a sort of a
finishing touch on this, Donna Brazil said what she said
and knew when she said it, and will continue to
know this going forward, that she's she has the ability
to say this like she's not going to get in trouble.
Democrats aren't going to come after her. She can make
(25:39):
fun of a Vig's name and no one cares. So
you know, this is the world we live in today
in America. By the way, it is amazing. Speaking of pronunciation,
I expect to be deluged with pronunciation emails over this one.
Gloria emailed you Buck near the end of today's broadcast. Buck,
you's the word mischievous and pronounced it just like I did,
(26:04):
which makes some of us cringe. The correct pronunciation is mischievous.
I I don't know that there is any audience in
America that cares about your pronunciation. This is just this
Alli just sent us this email.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
This is from Gloria says uh that I just because
we're talking about Vivacan pronunciation, you evidently have have have
come into Gloria's poor graces here, Buck over your pronunciation.
I would say mischievous too. Is there not multiple pronunciations allowed?
Speaker 3 (26:41):
There?
Speaker 2 (26:41):
Is it mischievous? I mean we're gonna have to do
research on this to find out.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
I don't even know if I care enough to google
it right now, that's how I feel about it. I'll
just throw that out there. I don't even know if
you can get my fingers to type out the type
out the letters so we can figure. I think mischievous
is the is the preferred pronunciation, so I could I
can leave it to that way. I will mention too.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
I got a great email from someone who said, you
guys have way too many guest hosts. I got that
email this morning and I was like, I don't think
we've had a guest host in a year.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Yeah, well we have a guest host that like Christmas
and that's it.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Well we got Tutor on Friday, Oh Friday, sorry black
and Christmas.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
You know that they're right.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
But I emailed her back and I was like, you know,
there's lots of things I actually occasionally emailed back, lots
of things you could criticize. I was like, I don't
think we've had a guest host on this show. You
or I have been in every day for a year
basically since basically since New Year's.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
Of last year. Because Michael Barry was in was in
on July fourth for us from uh host out Houston.
Okay day, it's been a while. Yeah, so I don't
I don't think that's the criticism.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
We can have pronunciation maybe, but we come back, we'll
take some of your calls, will allow you to react,
let us know what we're mispronouncing. But you're right, Donna,
Brazil will have no content, neces. No one will even
talk about it.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
I want to. I know one took the no one
seems to really take in debit on my my arena
music shows are almost always overrated because they're like sitting
up in the stands, and I like them. By the way,
I completely disagree with that take. Yeah, no, go ahead,
it's all right, Clay, you're you're You're free to be
wrong on this take. That's fine.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
I like big concerts in arenas and stadiums because of
the sheer magnitude of the spectacle. Now, if you're talking
about would you rather be in a venue with like
three hundred people in it, yes, But if you're talking
about would you buy a ticket for a twenty thousand
seed arena or for a stadium, Certainly, to me, the
(28:40):
production value of the performance is pretty cool, right.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
So the stage not seeing out eye on this one.
But I want to know if we see the II
on the I on the next one, and what our
audience thinks here. I love this piece in the Wall
Street Journal about whether loved ones this holiday season should
pay up, whether people should pick up their loved ones
at the airport. Is this what And especially for some
(29:08):
of the guys out there, you know, I know what
this is like. You got a fiance, or you got
a you know, a lady friend, or you know a
wife that expects the pickup from the airport. Now, hey,
I'm on your side, comes down, comes down heavy on
this one. We can dive into this when we come back.
I want everybody to take ubers everywhere. And this has
(29:28):
turned into a major point of contention with my wife,
who is unhappy that I will put are soon to
be sixteen year old in an uber as opposed to
spending two hours to go drive and pick him up. Uh.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
But I understand this is a very contentious issue, especially
around the holiday season. And probably some of you are
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Speaker 1 (31:20):
Slash Clay from the front lines of freedom and truth,
Clay Travis and Buck Sexton. Third Hour of Clay and
Buck kicks off right now, and we have our friend
Stevin Miller with us. He is the founder of America
(31:41):
First Legal, a former senior advisor in the Trump White House,
and a various stute and wise fellow. Mister Miller, good
to have you back.
Speaker 5 (31:51):
Thank you appreciate the introduction.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
So we have some big stuff going on at the border,
or continuously happening at the border, as in it's the
most wide open that it has ever been, the most lawless.
It's a massive problem. If you look at the polling
for Biden the Democrats going into twenty twenty four, and
former President Trump has put out some pretty big ideas
(32:15):
and I know you've been amplifying them for what he
would do in his second term. Can you take us
through some of those, because I'm seeing talk of widespread deportations,
for example, and I'm a very serious escalation in that.
How would that work? Can we get it done?
Speaker 5 (32:31):
Yes? We can, And here's exactly how it would work.
So the way that interior enforcement works right now, well
under Biden, does not even happening at all. But the
way it works historically is you have targeted enforcement actions
focusing on specific, high priority individuals. So you work up
(32:54):
specific packages against specific people, and then you case them
and you follow them around, you carry out the arrest
you would need to, which would involve a massive increase
in personnel, in evolving the National Guard, involving DEA atf FBI,
state local and sheriffs as well too. You would need
(33:15):
to switch to indiscriminate or large scale enforcement activities, basically
going into any place where there's no congregations of illegals
and holding everybody on site, determining who's there illegally, and
then taking people who are there illegally into federal detention.
But the key part here to understand, and of course
(33:36):
you would still continue to do all of the targeted
enforcement as well, it would be an end not an ore.
The key part though, to actually being able to effectuate
the removals is to have large scale detention facilities to
carry out the removals, because this isn't like when Eisenhower
did it in the nineteen fifties when it was a
(33:58):
strictly bilateral problem. Two countries were involved in the United States
and Mexico. That was it. So logistically it's pretty simple, right,
where is everybody going to go to Mexico? Now, if
you were to do a hypothetical raid at say a
food processing facility, you might get illegal aliens from two
dozen different countries. And each one of those illegal aliens
(34:21):
has a different complicated fact pattern in terms of do
they have a US citizen spouse, do they have a
US citizen child, do they have some pending of filing applications,
so on and so forth, And so you need to
be able to then take all these individuals into an
interior staging facility to be able to then line up
(34:41):
get the deportation order and then align up with the
flight out of the country. So to achieve efficiency at scale,
The way this would work is you try to co
locate everybody in massive facilities, probably near your existing border infrastructure,
so you would go to where you have your border
patrol facilities, and this way you able to say, Okay,
Every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday are our flight's back to
(35:04):
the Northern Triangle. Every Tuesday and Thursday are our flights
to South America. Every Saturday and Sunday are our flights
to Africa. Right once a week, we do a flight
to India. Once a week, we do a flight to China,
so on and so forth. And that way, as you're
getting people who've been here for different lengths of time,
in different factional circumstances and everything else, when their case ends,
(35:25):
whether it be in an hour or a week, when
it ends, there'll be a plane ready and fooled up
and ready to go and take them home. The only
detail I'll add to this, and I can obviously talk
about it for an hour, but is that President Trump
has also said that he would invoke a stattute that's
been on the books since the John Adams administration, which
(35:47):
allows you to deport any alien H fourteen or older
without due process if there's a declared state of incursion,
a predatory incursion, or invasion that country. So this is
an extremely powerful tool that waives to process whether it's
a state of invasion or a state of a quote
(36:09):
predatory incursion. And obviously under Biden, there is now multiple
countries with invasions and predatory incursions into the United States,
and so that would be an additional story that you'd
be able to use to expedite these removals.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
Stephen, you know the border better than I would bet
almost anybody in the country in terms of how to
handle the situation there. You obviously be very highly involved
in any Trump administration twenty twenty four. Obviously, the polls
out there look incredible right now for Trump. He's up
in basically every single national poll I've seen. We've all
(36:43):
discussed in great detail how well.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
He's doing in swing states.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
We consistently, however, get emails from people out there who
say it doesn't matter that Democrats are going to rig
the system again. How confident are you again? You're plugged
in as well as anybody that the voting systems are
going to be cleaner and more reliable in twenty twenty
(37:09):
four than they were in twenty twenty or are you
confident in that? That's I would say, I bet Buck
would agree. One of the number one questions we get
about the twenty twenty four election, is it going to
be safer and more secure by far than twenty twenty.
What's happened to change that? How would you assess and
answer that question.
Speaker 5 (37:29):
Well, there's obviously some red states that have implemented important
election reforms, and that's something that we should all celebrate.
But it's still the wild West, as we know, in
so many blue states like Nevada for example. But number one,
this is going to be this is going to be
a forever problem. Right, So people need to internalize the
(37:51):
fact that as long as there are radical leftists in
this country, they are going to try to sabotage the
machinery of our elections in any state they can control.
And even if you fix things, you know, one you're
like to fix things in Pennsylvania, right, Well, eventually they'll
take control again in Pennsylvania and they'll destroy it all
over again. And so you have to do two things,
(38:13):
and this is these are two things that President Trump
is absolutely committed to you're doing. Number one is you
have to build a world class ballot harvesting operation to
try to and this is an expression we've known for
many years, right, you have to try to beat the
cheap you have to overcome the margin of fraud that
you're going to do anticipate. And then the second thing
(38:35):
that you have to do is obviously put together a
world class legal team so that when the time comes
for election challenges that you're in their heart. You're in
there early, you're in there aggressively. But the reality is
is that this is going to be a permanent, forever problem,
and so there's no there's no way of pretending that
(38:55):
you could choose some other course or choose some other
tax and you're not going to have to deal with this.
The reality is that it's going to keep happening. It
is going to continue happening. And the answer for the
Republican Party is everywhere you can fix the election laws,
you fix them, and everywhere you can't, again like Nevada,
where it really is the wild West, and there's no
way to fix them in Nevada because of the composition
(39:18):
of the legislature and the governor's office. Then you just
have to fight fire with fire, and you have to
drop box, and you have to ballot harvest, and you
have to do all of that and with such a
sophistication and the degree of financing that again that you
beat the cheap And the reality is that the President
Trump is the best positioned candidate by orders of magnitude
(39:39):
to be able to bring out the millions with an
m the millions of voters that are the gold mine
in ballot harvesting, and those are voters that are known
as low propensity, high affinity, in other words, voters that
are very unlikely to vote but totally love you. That
is how you win elections with ballot harvesting is before
(40:03):
election day, collecting millions and millions of ballots from the
voters who love you but almost never vote. That's the key.
Right there, We're.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
Speaking to Steven mill of America First Legal and Steven,
I want to give you this opportunity to uh wish
President Biden a happy birthday. He's eighty one today. And
a little bit more seriously, if you would just tell
tell us where do you come down and all this
because you've got all this chatter from a lot of
Democrats about how there has to be a plan B,
and I just sit here and I keep asking, Okay, well,
(40:32):
what would the plan be be?
Speaker 5 (40:36):
They don't have it. There's no there's no safe landing
spot for them, and any notion there's an easy way
to force Botle out and then force Kamala Harris out
and then nominate some other Democrat. The datas are taking by,
the months are taking by. There's no clean removal operation
(40:57):
available to anything or anybody at this point in time.
So they are screwed, no matter how you look at it.
And we all hear about this, this Gavin Newsom fantasy,
which again involves convincing Joe Biden to give up the
one thing that he's coveted for his entire adult life,
above anything and everything else, and then to convince Kamala
(41:18):
Harris to become maybe there's some other historical president, I
can't think of it, at least the first vice president
in memory, just to completely bow out because she's loathed
and hated by voters, and then to install Gavin Newsom,
who would have to run defending the California record at
a time in which those issues are front and center
in America's minds in terms of crime, in terms of education,
(41:42):
in terms of the cost of living. I mean, it
would just be a calamity for Democrats because everybody in
tuitive the understands the California has gone to hell, that
Los Angeles has gone to hell, and so on, and
so I think that they're just trapped. They have a
candidate whose mind is flipping away by the day, who
can barely even function, and there is no way at
(42:04):
all they have They have only two poisoned Chiles as
the Jews from Biden are the most complicated candidate replacement
operation in the history, and both are completely at this
point calamitous for Democrats.
Speaker 2 (42:19):
Steven Miller with us right now, Stephen, where do you
stand on picking people up at.
Speaker 1 (42:24):
The airport.
Speaker 5 (42:26):
In terms of if.
Speaker 2 (42:28):
A hard do you think we've had a big debate about.
This is a holiday season. Let me set let me
set the tables for you. It's a holiday season gonna
be one of the biggest I thought, you're.
Speaker 5 (42:36):
Asking me how I fool about picking illegal aliens up
at the airport. I think I'm strongly opposed to that.
Speaker 1 (42:41):
I love that that we discouraged that.
Speaker 2 (42:44):
Uh, so Buck and I are of the opinion that
holiday travel, it is a disaster to try to drive
to an airport to pick someone up, right like the
coming in for the holiday or whatever. Get an uber,
get it, get a lift, manage to not have to
add a person.
Speaker 5 (43:02):
Should be asking anyone to pick them up at the
airport as a general matter. So number one is a
person you should never be known as the person who
picks up people at the airport. I haven't picked up
anybody but my immediate nuclear family at the airport basically
in my entire life. Unless you're my wife or my children,
I'm not picking you up at the airport. The only
(43:22):
exception to that that I've ever made, which I would
advise any intelligent man to make, would be for my
inn loss. But that would be it. But you don't
want to be known as a mark that's going around
to pick people up at the airport, let alone the holidays.
There's one hundred different ways to get to drive from
the airport home at this point in time. So I'm
strongly opposed to it. But again there's reasonable exceptions in
(43:43):
the interest of welfare in the home, and obviously if
you're interellocked me to ride at the airport. You're just
going to have to suck it up and do it.
Speaker 2 (43:52):
I knew that you would have a totally logical analysis here,
because much of what you do is completely logical from
a political perspective.
Speaker 1 (43:59):
You're on the right here.
Speaker 2 (44:00):
Like this, this whole idea of driving people to the
airport and picking people up is it's it's really just
become an infestation in its own.
Speaker 5 (44:08):
Like nineteen seventy nine, Why is anybody in your twenty
twenty three asking anybody to help them get to and
from the airport, Like this is a novel experiment that
we don't know how to get to and from the
airport on our own. I mean, I suppose if you
lived in like deep deep deep out on the country
and there is just no possible way. That's different. But
if you're living in or around or near any kind
(44:30):
of major city, you need to be getting yourself to
and from the airport. And there's something wrong with you
if you're putting that kind of pressure on your friends,
if you're saying, like, hey, I'm coming on Christmas Eve,
you completely drop everything you're doing and driving hours of
traffic to pick me up at the airport and then
wait in line for forty five minutes and then get
told by people in yellow and orange vess every five
minutes that you need to move or you're gonna get toed.
You're gonna get ticketed. Who's asking anybody to do that.
Speaker 1 (44:51):
It's so well said. Happy Thanksgiving to you. We'll talk
to you again soon.
Speaker 5 (44:56):
Steven, Happy Thanksgiving Godlass.
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Speaker 1 (46:06):
No one should pick you up at the airport, Narl Roads,
curb space, and long waits at the cell phone lot.
We make the people we love endure a lot when
we visit. This is Wall Street Journal piece by Nikki Waller,
and she starts it off with wanna be a hero
this holiday season? Get yourself home from the airport. I'm
(46:30):
just throwing this out there, Clay, because there are people
out there I have encountered this in the past who think, oh,
you have a car, and in your major metropolitan area,
you could drive that car to that airport to pick
up your family when they're visiting over Thanksgiving or Christmas
or whatever without stopping to think. First of all, that's
(46:53):
going to be a giant pain in the butt, and
second of all, it makes it worse for everybody else.
Speaker 2 (46:59):
I'm going tonight to pick up my oldest son when
he comes back from he's been in Chicago for the weekend,
and when I pick him up, it's going to be
pure chaos at the airport. I'm going to spend probably
two and a half to three hours to pick him up.
I am and this is this is not unique. I've
(47:19):
been arguing this for a long time. I think that
everyone should take an uber or a lyft when you
arrive at the airport. Take care of it yourself. It's
relatively easy to do. I understand. Back in the day
when there weren't that many taxicabs in many places, and.
Speaker 1 (47:36):
There are good public transit options too, from places like
JFK and LaGuardia. Now you can take air tran. You know,
there are other depends on the city where Look. If
it's the South Bend Airport, you know, go pick somebody up. Fine,
major metro airports. Making your loved one go out to
JFK Thanksgiving Wednesday night, the night before Thanksgiving is torture. Okay,
(47:56):
it's torture. You should get to their house on your own.
Speaker 3 (47:59):
Now.
Speaker 2 (48:00):
Certain exceptions, young children, babies, elderly people. But ninety five
percent of everybody who's traveling should be able to get
their own uber and l This is gonna be This
might be the most controversial take that we've ever had
on this show, because I guarantee you there are people
that are super fired up about this. The chaos at
the airport. You can't I'm already terrified about going tonight
(48:22):
because i know I'm not even gonna be a I'm
gonna have to pick up my kid at the departures
area because you can't even get into the arrivals area.
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Speaker 2 (49:39):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show Buck throwing
bombs coming after a Renam Music's music performances, saying he
doesn't want anybody to get picked up at the airport
to sleep there. Uh uh and if you can't, you
can't get a ride, it's on you. I I am
so in favor of no one getting picked up at
the airport. I also am not a big fan of
(50:01):
dropping off at the airport. I think in an Uber era,
Uber and Lyft have changed transportation fundamentally, and I think
a lot of people haven't caught up with it because
the idea of driving somebody to the airport or picking
someone up at the airport. I'm talking about an adult,
like a functional adult. Now, would you feel different if
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you were single and you were dating. Would you make
the effort to go pick up or would you tell
girlfriend or dating partner, hey, figure out a way to
get home.
Speaker 1 (50:33):
This was what this is When I had the feud Carrie,
My wife is very reasonable and we understand there's no
point whether you're in Miami or New York, there's no point.
Speaker 2 (50:45):
Oh you're married now. But when you first started dating Carrie,
did you tell her hey, like, I don't do airport trips.
Speaker 1 (50:51):
Oh, no, I don't do airport trips. Yeah, you just
tell her that, like early on. Yeah. I think you
need to establish that expectation right away, unless for some reason,
you know, you're really close and there are obviously exceptions
these rules. Yeah. I remember also, in my my single life,
many many many years ago, got into a pretty big
argument with someone who was flying into JFK, and I
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was just like, it's a Friday, I'm not driving into
I'm not driving out to JFK and then driving back,
I'll hit traffic both ways. I'll be in the car
for four hours take a cab that did not go
over well. So she was coming specifically to visit you, No,
just coming back to New York. Oh you are already dating.
Speaker 2 (51:31):
Yeah, and she expected for you to go to the
airport to pick her up and you were like, yeah,
that's no, not happening.
Speaker 1 (51:37):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (51:37):
And how much longer did the relationship ask after last?
After that fight?
Speaker 1 (51:41):
Like months? I don't know, not very long. I'm not
gonna say this was like the end, but it didn't.
It didn't really go go too much longer. I'd say
this as well. Since we're on since we're on the subject,
we're talking airports, airplanes. Don't worry everybody, Pete, Buddha, Judges,
FAA has got you covered. It's gonna be great. Give
me no problems. I'm gonna be tweeting up a store.
I'm sure tomorrow when I'm when I'm caught and all
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of a sudden, they'll be saying there are weather delays.
You'll say, wait, but there's no what's going on? They say, oh,
And then we'll find out that there's like a lack
of air traffic controllers or staff or whatever. It's always
a mess. I mean air travel. It's just it feels
like it gets worse every year recently. I don't know
what else to say. It feels like it just keeps
getting worse. And but I'm gonna I'm gonna put this
out there. Does see I this may be controversial, Okay, fine,
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but I haven't yet. I feel like I haven't stepped
into a bear trap yet today on these ones. So
because we have some people calling in to agree with me,
some of the early boarding folks, some of the early
boarding folks I think are taking advantage of the good
one hundred a lot of early boarding that is inappropriate.
I'm seeing. I'm seeing people who are like, oh, I
got an early board. I look at them, like early board.
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You look at you just finished a triathlon? What are
you talking You got early board? You know I'm not
talking about Just to be clear, this is not a
military service personnel. This is when they're doing if you
need help, you know. And then you see people with
like a walker or a wheelchair, and you know they're
they're elderly people in the wheelchair. They're getting on the plane. Okay, fine,
But I see people who are like, yeah, great, I'm
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just gonna go bored. I want to be like, excuse me, Like,
what is this Southwest? That really matters? On Southwest Airlines
because there are no assigned seats. There are sometimes where
you're waiting to get on a Southwest Airlines flight and
like seventy five people are early boarding. So you see
this too. You don't think I'm crazy? You think early
boarding is being abused?
Speaker 2 (53:27):
No, I mean I get it if you're in a
wheelchair and you know, you have a broken leg, or
you're ninety four years old and you're traveling, like, yes,
I understand it. But if you've got like four bags
and to your point, you look like you just you know,
like finished a triathlon and you're boarding, and you know,
then you get on and you've managed to you know,
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take a whole row on a Southwest flight, I think
it's definitely being abused because I mean, who says no.
I think if you request early boarding, it doesn't I
don't think they really grill you one why you need
early boarding.
Speaker 1 (54:01):
I think it's a default. Yes. I feel like we're
a society where we wish we could use the honor
system on things, but there are a lot of dishonorable
people out there. Man, a lot of people taking a
lot of people trying to bring their emotional support peacock
on the plane, you know, people doing crazy things.
Speaker 2 (54:18):
By the way, the other thing on the pickup. Because
I'm still fired of about this. I also like to
look to see whether a flight is on time or not,
because go the only thing worse than going to pick
someone up is going to pick someone up driving like
an hour and then the flight's gonna you find out
the flight's.
Speaker 1 (54:38):
Gonna be delayed three hours. So then what do you do.
Speaker 2 (54:40):
You sit in the cell phone waiting lot, You go
to some crappy restaurant that you otherwise would not have
gone to, somewhere near the airport because typically the areas
around airports are not super nice. So then you got
to drive another twenty five or thirty minutes to somewhere
that go that you would never go. I don't understand
why this isn't default I and I was even saying
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off air I don't like you know, I had my
book tour and they're like, hey, we want to book
travel for you. We'll have somebody waiting for you with
a with a sign. And I don't even like that
because so often the driver goes to the wrong place,
and then you're on the phone trying to find your driver.
I just want to take an Uber every time I
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arrive at any airport to wherever I want to go,
and I don't really want to even have to worry
about trying to involve anyone else other than pulling my
phone out in doing it.
Speaker 1 (55:32):
You don't want to have to look for that sign
that says mister Gali weekets and have a driver tell
you it's actually doctor Galakowitz.
Speaker 2 (55:39):
Do you remember what brand did that ad? Bud Light, Yes,
because but used to do the best ads on TV
in the Super Bowl year in and year out, because beer
companies used to try to make you laugh instead of
convincing you that dudes with penises were the woman of
the year. I think there's a whole I think we've
(56:01):
played on this show the Real Men of Genius ads before,
which were all so funny, and then the Core's Light
We like cheerleaders and football and quarterbacks getting sacked like
that whole ad. I showed it to my kids and
they were like, Wow, these were fun. Because we've entered
into such a woke we can't offend anybody culture. Oh
(56:23):
the cheerleader is pretty and look men like to drink
beer and look at pretty girls. That hasn't changed. That's
never going to change. That's basic biology. Yet the beer
companies have decided, oh, we shouldn't do that anymore. I
really think every brand in America could just go back
to what worked in the eighties and the nineties, and
(56:45):
it would work way better now because there's a desperate
demand for it.
Speaker 1 (56:49):
And then when you get.
Speaker 2 (56:50):
Attacked by all these losers online, you actually should ridicule
them because they aren't representative of the larger American population.
Just and the Victoria's secret thing. While I'm on my my,
oh wow, he's fired up everybody, my soapbox is perfect
on this. It turns out that fat chicks with penises
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in lingerie didn't make anybody want to have sex more
or buy more lingerie. You know, like remember when they
were like, We're gonna have a bunch of Androgyni's fat
chicks selling lingerie, And you're like, I, I don't think
there's a lot of women out there that think, oh,
I'm gonna look like a fat chick when I put
on lingerie. And I don't think there are any men
(57:32):
out there that are like, you know what I want.
I want a person that might be a dude wearing
lingerie to convince me to buy this for my wife. Like,
this was the stupidest campaign in the history of mankind.
Everybody wants to look better looking than they are. Right,
there aren't fat superheroes.
Speaker 1 (57:51):
I mean fashion. Fashion is aspirational, right, I mean yes
of us?
Speaker 2 (57:56):
Partis imagine how Superman wouldn't be very super if you
weigh four hundred in twenty pounds and he was trying
to wear a licersuit and you couldn't see you apps well,
midmby he identifies as super you don't know. That would
certainly be a different kind of movie. But this whole
idea is drive me crazy.
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