May 23, 2023 • 37 mins
19-year-old Sai Varshith Kandula (not white) bumps U-Haul truck into fence outside White House, media calls it "white supremacy." Officials lay out Nazi flag supposedly found in van on pavement, take photos. Former FBI official McCabe connects attack to Jan. 6. Amazing poll numbers on how many falsehoods Democrats believe. BBC launches "BBC Verify" to "fact-check" and "counter" misinformation.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Welcome back in, And by welcome back in, I mean
well welcome in because we are on the very beginning
of the program here on the Tuesday edition. We hope
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this great country. We appreciate all of you, and we
(00:29):
have got a lot to dive into here. The fallout
continues from the NAACP saying that black and gay people
should not be considered safe in Florida. We will discuss
how insanely ridiculous that is. Our good friends on the
View have an issue with Tim Scott being a black
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man running for office because he's been too successful compared
to other black people, according to Sonny Hostin and so hurt.
His store is not emblematic of the black experience, according
to Sonny Hostin, who also, by the way, has made
millions and millions of dollars herself along the way, but
(01:12):
all of that still to come. Also, we're going to
be joined by a new OutKick employee, Charlie Arnault, who
is absolutely killing it. Some of you have probably seen
her on Fox News. She's going to have a new
morning show at OutKick, and she has left ESPN and
feels uniquely free to be able to speak her mind,
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which is what I like to think. This show and
certainly what OutKick as well, represents the triumph of the
First Amendment, and so we will break all that down.
She is scheduled to join us at two point thirty
in the third hour of the program, But we begin
with yet another fake white supremacy attack. Now what I
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mean by this is it's amazing how desperate the Biden
White House is and the FBI in the Department of
Justice to continue to label white supremacy as the biggest
threat that we face as a nation. This is a
transparent lie. Last week we played you the audio of
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Joe Biden at the Howard University commencement address saying the
biggest threat that the United States faces is white supremacy.
Buck and I have discussed with you how that idea
coming from the chief executive, the President of the United States,
leads to many people out there in the FBI in
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the Department of Justice, desperately seeking white supremacists, because that's
then how you get promoted. When the boss tells you
that this is the issue, you better go out and
demonstrate that the boss is right. That's how you can
elevate yourself inside of the FBI. Buck, would you agree
with that? Like you have a unique experience because you
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were in the CIA. How much does what your superior
say are the things that matter most inside of the
agency in your experience then reflected by the working people
inside of that agency. It becomes sort of a self
fulfilling prophecy, right, because you pursue it and then provide
evidence that what you were told to pursue is significant.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
It's determinative, it's defining. It's something that when you are
told what the let's say in the CIA context, same
in the FBI. These are executive branch agencies, which means
the White House sets the priority. When the White House
would send a tasking you know a question or we
need an update on or we need to know something.
(03:41):
That is first order of business within the intelligence community,
first order of business within federal law enforcement. Right, I mean,
which makes sense when you think about it because they
work for the executive brandes people of You know, we've
grown used to this conception the same way that the
media we've been to is objective journalism, and we all
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know that's a joke. Now, the fourth branch of government,
the bureaucracy, acts like a fourth branch of government, but
it's really not supposed to be, and in fact, it
is subordinate to the White House at the top of
the executive branch, so they're taking orders. In a more
specific context, when I was working Intelligence Division and YPD,
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there were people assigned to and this was just in case,
or there are people assigned to anarchist terrorism, white supremacist terrorism,
narco terrorism. They were really bored. The people who were
doing the most at that time. Now this is back
over a decade ago, were looking at Jiehattish terrorism, people
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who were working on behalf of ISIS or Al Qaido
or whatever. Right, So I saw that, and honestly we
used to make jokes about it, like, oh, yeah, the
white supremacist team, what are they up to today? Because
they weren't up to anything because there was nothing happening
because there were no white supremacist But I think one
aspect of this that's fascinating is when is the action
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of an individual the fault of a whole group or
something a whole group has to be reminded of constantly,
And when is it, oh my gosh, like we can't
even talk about this, that would malign the whole group
in some way, you know? When is white people are
constantly told white supremacy is a huge threat. And the
point of telling us this. There's a lot of points
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of it, but one of them is we are all
guilty in some way.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
We are a part of a white supremacist system. We
have to become anti racists or else we're a part
of the problem. And I sit here and you see here,
we're like some like racist maniac who you know, whether
it's you know it's once or twice a year or
whatever it is, who goes and shoots up bunch of
people is an evil psychopath, has nothing to do with.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
Anything that any of us think about, do care about.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
It's you know, politically, has no connection, no connective tissue
to what we stand for on the right and conservatism
in any meaningful way. But we're lectured about it. Meanwhile,
the na sea white supremacist. And uh, I'll give a
hat tip to Matt Wallash who pointed this out before
I could on Twitter. They find a Nazi flag inside
this guy's U haul van, which was anybody even he
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just drove it into like a fence, right.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Or I mean he based a very slow rate of speed.
And maybe we should say the fact, we should tell
everybody what happened first. So uh yeah, so late was
it late last night? But because when I woke up,
I saw still the percolation of this, I believe late
last night, a guy in a U haul van drove
his U haul van into a fence outside of I
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believe Lafayette Park close to the White House for those
of you who know where that is. And uh, and
he's now been charged with five different crimes and among
them is an attempted, you know, attack on the president.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
So this guy, this guy crashed a U haul into
a barrier near the White House. And we're supposed to think,
oh my gosh. The first thing that happens is they
lay out by the way, Clay, where's that?
Speaker 4 (07:08):
Where's the Nashville Manifesto? Did I miss it? Yeah? I know,
did I miss the Manifesto? With all the crazy trans
terrorist stuff. I don't think I missed that. I think
I haven't released it yet.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Meanwhile, a guy drives into a barrier outside the White
House at like nine miles an hour, okay, and they
go in and they find some Nazi flag, and immediately
here McKay, the former FBI director who's fired in disgrace.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
But now the libs love. Let's just give you an
example this.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
We'll play clip one here, because a guy runs a
U haul, you know, at ten miles an hour into
a barrier near the White House and is saying crazy things.
It's the Republican Party's fault. Honestly, Clay, we should blame Trump.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
Play one.
Speaker 5 (07:46):
We've been hearing not only from the President but even
the FBI director that white supremacism, far right wing extremis
are the biggest threat to this country. And then you
look at the contents of this person's backpack and you
can't help but think, I guess they're right.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
That's absolutely right.
Speaker 6 (08:04):
And I think you have to draw a line from
this apparent attack on the White House by someone bearing
a Nazi flag to at least some of the people,
it's hard to say how many, but some of the
people involved in the January sixth attack.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
On the Capitol.
Speaker 6 (08:19):
How do we know that because some of those folks
who are carrying the same sort of symbols Nazi flags,
Confederate flags, things like that. That showed you a commonality
of ideality.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
Yeah, we get it.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
So this guy runs his U haul at ten miles
an hour into a barricade and has a Nazi flag.
It's basically a January sixth rioter clay and a white supremacist.
The problem is his name is CSI Varshith Condula.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Credit to our friend Carol Markowitz, who was the first
person that I saw with this, and she also had
a photo. He has a Missouri driver's license, so weird.
In Texas, it was right that the uh that the
Hispanic guy whose parents were immigrants, that he was a
Hispanic white supremacist the shooter, I think in the mall
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at at Texas. And that story vanished because the white
supremacy connection came from a random Russian website where somebody
supposedly created a profile. But did you notice how quickly
that story vanished after like maybe a day or two
of getting play.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Yeah, and is it even is it even true, were
there was there a single that's the former FBI director
who was fired in disgrace for trying and mcasos, who
against President Trump we were planning be for Just so
you know that CNN now goes to some kind of
an expert. The man is an abject moral disgrace and
people should be ashamed of ever putting him on our
They should be the FBI should be ashamed that he
was ever the acting director, But the FBI is apparently
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incapable of shame at the top levels these days. Was
there actually any Were there any swastikas on January sixth?
I don't remember what.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Were the It was a Confederate flag, because I do
remember all the attention that guy, But no, I swaps there.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
There were no Nazi flags that I saw.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
I mean, if looked, and by the way, somebody may
find there may be one somewhere. Of the thousands and
thousands of people I covered the Occupy Wall Street protests,
there were Soviet flags, you know all you know, all
kinds of Isis flag. There's crazy stuff going. Lunatics show
up at these things of all kinds. But I mean,
was this He makes it sound like everybody was storming
on January sixth with Nazi flags.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
It's just not true, yeah, right, And there's an attempt
to try to make the Confederate flag the equivalent of
the Nazi flag on the far left right. But here
is the big takeaway. They took this flag and it
was eerily similar to me Buck of what they did
after the mar Lago raid. They laid out you think
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about usual investigations, right, they put up a big perimeter.
They sometimes put up tents to keep people from being
able to see within a few minutes. It fell like
of this van, they had laid out the Nazi flag
on the pavement directly next to the van so that
people could take photos and they could help to sell
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the idea which you heard Andrew McCabe go on and
television and make that argument that this was a Nazi
white supremacist attack on the White House when it seems
to be I believe this man's Indian or Pakistani, something
like that, and a random so a Zuri Asian guy
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driving his van. Obviously, I would guess Buck mental issues
because you don't typically drive a U haul van into
the White House with if everything's going well, with a
Nazi flag but it doesn't add up, it doesn't fit.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
That's their narrative. They were going to sell it no
matter what.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Yeah, of course, and they wanted to get it on
TV as fast as possible because they need to feed
this narrative to their voters, to the Democrats. Democrats have
to believe as their fighting just fervently for abortion for
all nine months of a pregnancy, for general mutilation of
teenagers who have been brainwashed by transgender ideology pushed down
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on them from schools and from media and from TikTok
as they push for an open border in the destruction
of US sovereignty and effectively nullifying what it even means
to be an American. Democrats need a hero narrative. Why
are they the good guys, right? And why should they
not worry about any of this other stuff that's going
on around them? And the threat of white supremacy is
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their emotional security blanket.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
It's all. I oppose the.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
White supremacist, evil Trump people, so I'm a good person,
and as the economy is crap and the country is
in bad shape, I don't have to feel any guilt
for my stupid vote back in twenty twenty because they're
so bad. Do you ever see The Last King of Scotland?
You ever see the movie Last King of Scotland? That
was a twenty years ago, right, yeah, yeah, old, maybe
fifteen twenty years ago. Great movie, highly high. Do you
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recommend for anybody out there? And if you haven't seen it?
Speaker 4 (13:03):
Underrated?
Speaker 3 (13:04):
My dad actually give him the shout out. He was
the one who told me I had to see it
a long time ago. But Clay in the early stages.
And I had a friend who was Ay. He and
his family were refugees, true refugees from Uganda because his
dad showed up one day at the law office and
Idia mean the dictator. This all makes sense in a
second Idiomean, the dictator had taken all the other law
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partners were gone and they were never seen again. Right,
Idioman was making people disappear. My friend's dad said, we're
going right now. They fled to Australia, CA. But that's
what a refugee is. Yeah, that's a refugee, right, that's
someone who should get asylum in this country. But in
the movie, you see there's all these all of a sudden,
there's like a you know, it's a beautiful street scene
people are kind of drinking, hanging out, and then a
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van will pull up and they'll throw a bunch of
people into the van at gunpoint, and they just keep saying, oh,
that's a Boudet, men, meaning a boute was the leader
before eighty means power, And no one's supposed to ask
any questions because oh, look, you gotta do what you
gotta do to deal with you a bot amen, you know. Yeah,
And you have that going on with this white supremacist
stuff here in this country when the Biden administration is saying, oh,
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we have to be so afraid of the white supremacist
all the time. It is the shiny object meant to
distract people from the decay and destruction that the leftist
policies are wreaking right now. Right It's the thing that people, Oh,
I'm so scared of the bad guys, so I'm not
actually gonna think about what's really happening in this country.
Forrest Whittaker incredible performance in this amazing right A plus phenomenal.
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I don't know if you got an Oscar I think
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Speaker 4 (14:40):
Check that one out. That is a good movie.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
We come back, We'll continue to break this down. What
is the goal here and how quickly now will this
story vanish now that we have yet another I keep
kind of joking about this, Buck, but it's like we
keep going through the Clayton Bigsby example, that Dave Chapelle,
who they had the funny skit back in the day
(15:03):
on the Chappelle Show they had the black white supremacist
who was blind and wasn't aware of course that he
was actually black, so he was a blind black white supremacist.
I feel like they're an awful lot of minority white
supremacist all of a sudden, God forbid, by the way,
there actually be a white supremacist out there who actually
manages an attack. I hope that never happens because there
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aren't very many white supremacists out there period, but that
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Speaker 4 (17:25):
Welcome back to Clay and Buck. You know, there's a
lot of things that people.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
Believe still, and particularly among some of the Democrats out there,
think they're fighting disinformation.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
There are things that they think they know that ain't so.
Isn't that roughly Mark Twain right, Samuel clements.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
So we're going to dive into some of this, like
do they know the Hunter Biden laptop was in fact real?
Do Democrats know this? The latest data on it. We'll
talk disinformation on the list.
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buck Sexton show. So another fake white supremacist attack. Here's
the thing, though, Buck, when you make these arguments, when
you toss them out there, a lot of people never
see the truth. We talk a lot on this program
about trying to make sure we get our facts right
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so that you can agree or disagree with our opinions.
But the facts on this program we try to always
get right, and if we get a factor wrong, we
try to come back and say, hey, so we said this,
but the reality is here, here was actually what that represented.
And you guys out there listening to us, by and large,
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are pretty well informed on both left and right arguments,
because when you live in America today, you can't miss
far left wing our You have to live with them
on a day to day basis. Some of you might
have freaking pronouns in your email address because you feel
like you have to do it in order to keep
your job. But what's interesting is we get attacked all
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the time on the right center part of the country
for things that are said that end up not being true.
But the amount of things that you have to believe
that are not true on the left keeps growing, and
certainly the idea that men and women aren't unique is
(20:33):
one of them. But I saw this information yesterday, Buck,
And if you wonder, hey, what's the impact of telling
lies and of the media helping you to propagate those lies,
and of no one out there ever telling you that
the things that you believe are not true. Here are
some examples. This came out in a recent poll and
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I saw Glenn Greenwald share this. Buck, do you think
the Hunter Biden laptop is real or is it Russian disinformation?
Fifty nine percent of Americans now believe that's real. That's good,
but Buck, forty one percent still believe the lie that
the Hunter Biden laptop is Russian disinformation, including nearly sixty
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percent of Democrat voters. And it doesn't stop there. Do
you believe that Trump colluded with Russia?
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Forty four percent of voters still believe that there was
Russian collusion, including seventy percent of Democrats. And do you
believe the Steele dossier to one hundred percent made up?
Do you believe the Steele dossier and the allegations against
Trump from a Russian hotel are accurate? Forty four percent
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of people still believe that the Steele dossier is a
true story, including seventy one percent of Democrats. When you
believe falsehoods, Buck that Democrats are never held accountable for
their falsehoods. Nothing happens. We started about January sixth, For
(22:12):
years now, this is craziness. Seventy percent of people still
believing in the Steele dossier.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
We have to reframe, though, the purpose of belief as
it pertains to the Democrat base and the left in
this country. It's a little bit like the fifty one
intelligence officers who put their names to that letter. They
knew they were lying. Their purpose wasn't to inform the
public and tell them what they thought was true. Their
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purpose was to lie. And when you see for a
lot of Democrats, they don't ever actually think, oh, the
Hunter Biden laptop is fake or it's really it doesn't matter.
They know the same way that they knew they had
to double mask outside alone, that this is a function
of obedience training and bend the need. This is effectively
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Pavlovian conditioning. You are to believe these things irrespective of
the truth one way or the other, because that puts
you in the group with the good people. The non
white supremacist January sixth, Trump are all that right. All
you have to do is believe these things. The falseness
of them, the fact that these things are untrue, doesn't
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upset the left. They don't care, and they never even
get to the point of thinking about whether it's true
or not, because they know that it was always about
political or rather they've been brainwashed into political allegiance from
the start. It's just about what their side thinks. It's
my team, your team, right. But I mean, I think
it's important for everyone to see this because we are,
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to your point, constantly lectured about twenty twenty and January
sixth and all these things Democrats in a way that
was devious and far reaching. Right, I had nothing to
do with January sixth. You had nothing to do with
January sixth, None of the concern as we know in media,
none of the people that you know that that we
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deal with in our day to day lives had anything
to do with it. Okay, But when you look at
what they tried against Trump in twenty sixteen, with the
soft coup of the Russia, collusion with the deep state
and the media.
Speaker 4 (24:18):
They were all over it.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
Everybody on the Democrat Party was in on that, from
Pelosi on down. Everybody was trying to destroy Trump with
that lie. They were all a part of that coup attempt.
And so when you look at it, you see increasingly Claison.
This is what really concerns me. These are the seeds
of a totalitarian society. And I know that that sounds
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a little, you know that sounds a little come on, right,
But what we saw with COVID and what we see
now with the gender ideology stuff and the demand that
you have to believe things that are demonstrably untrue to
be in good standing with the Democrat Party, what does.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
That say to people?
Speaker 3 (25:00):
One of AOC could not come on this show and
defend the proposition that biological males men don't have an
advantage in women's sports, But she'll pass legislation, and she'll
push with her little Twitter account, with her millions of
idiot followers, these lies as much as she possibly can,
and you'll see this all across the board. With these Democrats.
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It doesn't even matter that the position is indefensible. The
point is they are brainwashing sheep to give them political power.
Speaker 4 (25:27):
And they know it. They know it.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
And this is why Buck, when CNN and MSNBC don't
cover this, did Rachel Maddow come on and say, Hey, guys,
I know I created a massive belief in all of
you that Russia collusion was going on, that Trump was
the Manchurian candidate, that the only reason he's in the
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White House is because of collusion that existed with Russian
state security that they rigged the election in twenty sixteen.
Did she come on at all all and shared the
Durham report?
Speaker 4 (26:02):
Of course not.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
Have they paid any attention at all to the fact
that the Hunter Biden laptop by and large is one
hundred percent real, and so, I mean, when you're talking
about seventy percent of Democrats, the lies worked. Biden got
the cover, remember Buck, they wrote it. It had all
of the hallmarks I believe was the phrase of Russian disinformation.
Speaker 4 (26:26):
Biden went right out.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
At the debate and argued that has anybody have you
seen on MSNBC or CNN them calling back up that
comment from the debate and saying, hey, Joe Biden, would
you still say this today? Given that everybody now, even
these ridiculous left wing media companies have now essentially acknowledged
the New York Times, the Washington Post that these are real,
(26:50):
This is a real laptop.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
Think about the weasel words they used to there. You know,
you could if you had someone's ring camera footage of
them thrown out the you know, taking out the trash
in the morning. You could say, Clay, the video I
saw has all the hallmarks of someone disposing of a
dead body.
Speaker 4 (27:05):
Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
Technically true, right, all the hallmarks of dead body disposal. Oh,
it's actually someone getting rid of some recycling cans, which
we can talk about this too, by the way, more
information clay recycling is trash, meaning you should throw it out.
It's a waste of everyone's time. On the plastic side,
for sure, we can talk about some of the other stuff.
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But the disinformation belief is necessary for democrats these days
because otherwise they have to start I think there's a
cascading effect that they want to avoid. Once you admit
that actually men and women are different, once you have
that mental and spiritual fortitude of basic truth, then you
start to question other things too. And people want a
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lot of people want masters, They want to be controlled,
they want to obey, and that mindset, that emotional and
psychological positioning, is unfortunate. There's a huge crossover with being
a democrat and a leftist in America today.
Speaker 4 (28:05):
You want people to tell you.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
What to do and what to think and how to believe,
and you don't want anyone to challenge that. Freedom is
scary for people play. Individualism is scary for a lot
of folks out there. That's really what we're seeing as
a country.
Speaker 4 (28:18):
No doubt.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
And we'll continue to talk about that because my goodness,
just the lies, I mean, the lies are getting more
and more ridiculous, including we're going to really go after
this some of the audio to play for you on Florida,
according to left wingers now, the state of Florida, which
is setting all time records for tourism and travel, which
(28:40):
is adding hundreds of thousands of new residents every single year, White, Black, Asian,
and Hispanic. If you're gay or if you are black,
the n DOUBLEACP wants you to know it's not safe
for you to be in Florida, despite the fact that
many of the top officials at the NAACP but the
actually in Florida. We'll get into that, we'll have some
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out there are worried about your family's history vanishing. I
bet in the back of your mind a lot of
you are. You've got older relatives. How about those old
VCR tapes? How many people still have a VCR in
their house. We had a conversation the other day because
(29:22):
we had all the DVDs right, all the old movies
that the kids have been watching. We only have one
DVD player left, and it just happens to be an Xbox.
How much media in your house can you not play?
How many of those old VHS tapes are slowly disintegrating
right now as I'm talking to you. Those are some
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of the best memories that you and your family have. Dad, Grandma, Grandpa,
somebody walking around with that camcorder on the shoulder, giving
a lot of us in the eighties and the nineties
a window into what our house was like. How many
of you have spent a Christmas morning where you run downstairs,
you start to open the presence and you look up
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and there's Dad with that VHS, that big boxy recorder
on his shoulder. Where are those tapes? You know, those
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Speaker 3 (31:41):
Welcome back to Clay and Buck eight hundred two eight
two two a A two. We got a bunch of
calls coming in. We also wanted to share some of
the audio out there that we have with all of you.
First off on this on this notion of disinformation the BBC,
(32:05):
which you know, if you ever want to watch news
that's meant to make you fall asleep in the middle
of the day, turn on the BBC.
Speaker 4 (32:12):
It does a very good job, you know, it's always.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
Somehow everyone and there's still this belief with the BBC
that if it's news from a part of the world
that no one's like been to, who's watching it or
really cares much about it's that's the most important news.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
You know.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
If it's a country you have to Google to find
out where it is, like then the BBC is all
over it. But BBC is launching you see this Clay
VBC Verify. You're going to see more and more of this.
So it's a news organization that is working to tell
everybody what the truth is, to root out disinformation.
Speaker 4 (32:47):
Play two.
Speaker 7 (32:48):
Welcome to BBC Verifies. We are a team of investigative journalists.
The point of the teeth is to verify video, to
fact check, to counter disinformation, and to analyze really complex
stories so we can get to the try. I'm investigating
the UK's conspiracy theory movement. I'm trying to understand more
about how it's evolved and intensified since the pandemic. I'm
looking at the alternative media that finds itself at the
(33:11):
heart of this movement, and a conspiracy theory newspaper that's
a part of that as well.
Speaker 4 (33:15):
I'm looking at the way weird enough.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
As much as I love the fancy accent, which I do,
actually it's such an advantage British accent. We all know this, right,
Like you see this various friends of ours with British
accents that call them the show.
Speaker 4 (33:26):
I'm like, that's just not fair.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
But Clay noticed that the focus is immediately on the
conspiracy theorists in the era of COVID. Why doesn't the
BBC have a fact check going on of the National
Health Service getting every single aspect of COVID entirely wrong
and killing more people than would have died if they
had just sat on the sidelines and let people live
(33:50):
their lives.
Speaker 4 (33:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
One reason why we talked yesterday about why there's such
a tremendous amount of distrust out there is because once
you are a where that someone has either lied to
you or willfully distorted facts in a way that is
equivalent to a lie, why would you ever trust those
people again? And the idea that you can't trust the
(34:14):
CDC anymore because you know that they lied to you
when they said that masks were eighty percent effective. Even
worse than that, they said, remember for a while, Hey,
if everybody would just wear a mask for one month,
we would end COVID forever. No, those were lies, right,
and that now the COVID shot is basically vanishing. I
even saw buck. Did you see this? Remember the J
(34:36):
and J shot you got? They're destroying it and not
even allowing it to continue to exist. For anybody out
there who got the Johnson and Johnson COVID shot, they
are legitimately destroying it and no longer allowing it to
exist anywhere.
Speaker 3 (34:52):
Is what is the value of something that you throw
in the trash clay? It is worthless? Yes, the shot
is true, worthless, not even worth recycling because you can't
The shot is absolutely positively not even worth storing or
holding on to or giving away for They literally cannot
(35:13):
give this stuff away for free because nobody wants it,
and we're supposed to think that this was somehow a
good process. I'm telling people, and I hate to because
I know that they're a lot. Look, you know, early days,
it wasn't the fog of war period of COVID and
everything else. When you read the real data on the ventilators,
and this really hits home. I mean, the only person
(35:35):
that I knew personally, trying to make sure that's correct,
the only person that I knew personally who died from
COVID died on a ventilator and died early on in
the pandemic. When you see what the real data shows
you about the rush to put COVID patients on ventilators,
it'll make your stomach turn because a lot of them
(35:56):
would have lived if they had just chosen a different modality.
And there are people who tell you from inside of
these big hospitals, staff was so scared because of Fauci
and because of Northern Italy and because of what was happening,
and everyone's so freaked out that they didn't really want
to deal with constant care of people that were having
(36:16):
trouble breathing because they were afraid of COVID, so they
stuck them unventilated. I mean, you know, if we're gonna
fact check, if we're going to speak the truth about
every but no, the BBC is going to look at
the conspiracy theoristso or anti vacs. I hate that term too,
because anti codevacs just means you can read. It just
(36:37):
means you know math and English or whatever language you're reading.
Speaker 4 (36:41):
No doubt.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
And that's why I would say the one really great
addition that Elon Musk has brought to Twitter so far,
this community notes concept where they can check and provide
context on many of the tweets that are out there,
often on far left wingers
Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Welcome back in, And by welcome back in, I mean
well welcome in because we are on the very beginning
of the program here on the Tuesday edition. We hope
that basically you feel like you hang out with us
all the time, so you're always rolling with us, whether
you're listening on the podcast, whether you're listening on the
five hundred some odd stations AM and FM all over
this great country. We appreciate all of you, and we
(00:29):
have got a lot to dive into here. The fallout
continues from the NAACP saying that black and gay people
should not be considered safe in Florida. We will discuss
how insanely ridiculous that is. Our good friends on the
View have an issue with Tim Scott being a black
(00:51):
man running for office because he's been too successful compared
to other black people, according to Sonny Hostin and so hurt.
His store is not emblematic of the black experience, according
to Sonny Hostin, who also, by the way, has made
millions and millions of dollars herself along the way, but
(01:12):
all of that still to come. Also, we're going to
be joined by a new OutKick employee, Charlie Arnault, who
is absolutely killing it. Some of you have probably seen
her on Fox News. She's going to have a new
morning show at OutKick, and she has left ESPN and
feels uniquely free to be able to speak her mind,
(01:33):
which is what I like to think. This show and
certainly what OutKick as well, represents the triumph of the
First Amendment, and so we will break all that down.
She is scheduled to join us at two point thirty
in the third hour of the program, But we begin
with yet another fake white supremacy attack. Now what I
(01:55):
mean by this is it's amazing how desperate the Biden
White House is and the FBI in the Department of
Justice to continue to label white supremacy as the biggest
threat that we face as a nation. This is a
transparent lie. Last week we played you the audio of
(02:16):
Joe Biden at the Howard University commencement address saying the
biggest threat that the United States faces is white supremacy.
Buck and I have discussed with you how that idea
coming from the chief executive, the President of the United States,
leads to many people out there in the FBI in
(02:36):
the Department of Justice, desperately seeking white supremacists, because that's
then how you get promoted. When the boss tells you
that this is the issue, you better go out and
demonstrate that the boss is right. That's how you can
elevate yourself inside of the FBI. Buck, would you agree
with that? Like you have a unique experience because you
(02:56):
were in the CIA. How much does what your superior
say are the things that matter most inside of the
agency in your experience then reflected by the working people
inside of that agency. It becomes sort of a self
fulfilling prophecy, right, because you pursue it and then provide
evidence that what you were told to pursue is significant.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
It's determinative, it's defining. It's something that when you are
told what the let's say in the CIA context, same
in the FBI. These are executive branch agencies, which means
the White House sets the priority. When the White House
would send a tasking you know a question or we
need an update on or we need to know something.
(03:41):
That is first order of business within the intelligence community,
first order of business within federal law enforcement. Right, I mean,
which makes sense when you think about it because they
work for the executive brandes people of You know, we've
grown used to this conception the same way that the
media we've been to is objective journalism, and we all
(04:03):
know that's a joke. Now, the fourth branch of government,
the bureaucracy, acts like a fourth branch of government, but
it's really not supposed to be, and in fact, it
is subordinate to the White House at the top of
the executive branch, so they're taking orders. In a more
specific context, when I was working Intelligence Division and YPD,
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there were people assigned to and this was just in case,
or there are people assigned to anarchist terrorism, white supremacist terrorism,
narco terrorism. They were really bored. The people who were
doing the most at that time. Now this is back
over a decade ago, were looking at Jiehattish terrorism, people
(04:45):
who were working on behalf of ISIS or Al Qaido
or whatever. Right, So I saw that, and honestly we
used to make jokes about it, like, oh, yeah, the
white supremacist team, what are they up to today? Because
they weren't up to anything because there was nothing happening
because there were no white supremacist But I think one
aspect of this that's fascinating is when is the action
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of an individual the fault of a whole group or
something a whole group has to be reminded of constantly,
And when is it, oh my gosh, like we can't
even talk about this, that would malign the whole group
in some way, you know? When is white people are
constantly told white supremacy is a huge threat. And the
point of telling us this. There's a lot of points
(05:29):
of it, but one of them is we are all
guilty in some way.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
We are a part of a white supremacist system. We
have to become anti racists or else we're a part
of the problem. And I sit here and you see here,
we're like some like racist maniac who you know, whether
it's you know it's once or twice a year or
whatever it is, who goes and shoots up bunch of
people is an evil psychopath, has nothing to do with.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
Anything that any of us think about, do care about.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
It's you know, politically, has no connection, no connective tissue
to what we stand for on the right and conservatism
in any meaningful way. But we're lectured about it. Meanwhile,
the na sea white supremacist. And uh, I'll give a
hat tip to Matt Wallash who pointed this out before
I could on Twitter. They find a Nazi flag inside
this guy's U haul van, which was anybody even he
(06:17):
just drove it into like a fence, right.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Or I mean he based a very slow rate of speed.
And maybe we should say the fact, we should tell
everybody what happened first. So uh yeah, so late was
it late last night? But because when I woke up,
I saw still the percolation of this, I believe late
last night, a guy in a U haul van drove
his U haul van into a fence outside of I
(06:41):
believe Lafayette Park close to the White House for those
of you who know where that is. And uh, and
he's now been charged with five different crimes and among
them is an attempted, you know, attack on the president.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
So this guy, this guy crashed a U haul into
a barrier near the White House. And we're supposed to think,
oh my gosh. The first thing that happens is they
lay out by the way, Clay, where's that?
Speaker 4 (07:08):
Where's the Nashville Manifesto? Did I miss it? Yeah? I know,
did I miss the Manifesto? With all the crazy trans
terrorist stuff. I don't think I missed that. I think
I haven't released it yet.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Meanwhile, a guy drives into a barrier outside the White
House at like nine miles an hour, okay, and they
go in and they find some Nazi flag, and immediately
here McKay, the former FBI director who's fired in disgrace.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
But now the libs love. Let's just give you an
example this.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
We'll play clip one here, because a guy runs a
U haul, you know, at ten miles an hour into
a barrier near the White House and is saying crazy things.
It's the Republican Party's fault. Honestly, Clay, we should blame Trump.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
Play one.
Speaker 5 (07:46):
We've been hearing not only from the President but even
the FBI director that white supremacism, far right wing extremis
are the biggest threat to this country. And then you
look at the contents of this person's backpack and you
can't help but think, I guess they're right.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
That's absolutely right.
Speaker 6 (08:04):
And I think you have to draw a line from
this apparent attack on the White House by someone bearing
a Nazi flag to at least some of the people,
it's hard to say how many, but some of the
people involved in the January sixth attack.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
On the Capitol.
Speaker 6 (08:19):
How do we know that because some of those folks
who are carrying the same sort of symbols Nazi flags,
Confederate flags, things like that. That showed you a commonality
of ideality.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
Yeah, we get it.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
So this guy runs his U haul at ten miles
an hour into a barricade and has a Nazi flag.
It's basically a January sixth rioter clay and a white supremacist.
The problem is his name is CSI Varshith Condula.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Credit to our friend Carol Markowitz, who was the first
person that I saw with this, and she also had
a photo. He has a Missouri driver's license, so weird.
In Texas, it was right that the uh that the
Hispanic guy whose parents were immigrants, that he was a
Hispanic white supremacist the shooter, I think in the mall
(09:11):
at at Texas. And that story vanished because the white
supremacy connection came from a random Russian website where somebody
supposedly created a profile. But did you notice how quickly
that story vanished after like maybe a day or two
of getting play.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Yeah, and is it even is it even true, were
there was there a single that's the former FBI director
who was fired in disgrace for trying and mcasos, who
against President Trump we were planning be for Just so
you know that CNN now goes to some kind of
an expert. The man is an abject moral disgrace and
people should be ashamed of ever putting him on our
They should be the FBI should be ashamed that he
was ever the acting director, But the FBI is apparently
(09:51):
incapable of shame at the top levels these days. Was
there actually any Were there any swastikas on January sixth?
I don't remember what.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Were the It was a Confederate flag, because I do
remember all the attention that guy, But no, I swaps there.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
There were no Nazi flags that I saw.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
I mean, if looked, and by the way, somebody may
find there may be one somewhere. Of the thousands and
thousands of people I covered the Occupy Wall Street protests,
there were Soviet flags, you know all you know, all
kinds of Isis flag. There's crazy stuff going. Lunatics show
up at these things of all kinds. But I mean,
was this He makes it sound like everybody was storming
on January sixth with Nazi flags.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
It's just not true, yeah, right, And there's an attempt
to try to make the Confederate flag the equivalent of
the Nazi flag on the far left right. But here
is the big takeaway. They took this flag and it
was eerily similar to me Buck of what they did
after the mar Lago raid. They laid out you think
(10:49):
about usual investigations, right, they put up a big perimeter.
They sometimes put up tents to keep people from being
able to see within a few minutes. It fell like
of this van, they had laid out the Nazi flag
on the pavement directly next to the van so that
people could take photos and they could help to sell
(11:12):
the idea which you heard Andrew McCabe go on and
television and make that argument that this was a Nazi
white supremacist attack on the White House when it seems
to be I believe this man's Indian or Pakistani, something
like that, and a random so a Zuri Asian guy
(11:33):
driving his van. Obviously, I would guess Buck mental issues
because you don't typically drive a U haul van into
the White House with if everything's going well, with a
Nazi flag but it doesn't add up, it doesn't fit.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
That's their narrative. They were going to sell it no
matter what.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Yeah, of course, and they wanted to get it on
TV as fast as possible because they need to feed
this narrative to their voters, to the Democrats. Democrats have
to believe as their fighting just fervently for abortion for
all nine months of a pregnancy, for general mutilation of
teenagers who have been brainwashed by transgender ideology pushed down
(12:12):
on them from schools and from media and from TikTok
as they push for an open border in the destruction
of US sovereignty and effectively nullifying what it even means
to be an American. Democrats need a hero narrative. Why
are they the good guys, right? And why should they
not worry about any of this other stuff that's going
on around them? And the threat of white supremacy is
(12:33):
their emotional security blanket.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
It's all. I oppose the.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
White supremacist, evil Trump people, so I'm a good person,
and as the economy is crap and the country is
in bad shape, I don't have to feel any guilt
for my stupid vote back in twenty twenty because they're
so bad. Do you ever see The Last King of Scotland?
You ever see the movie Last King of Scotland? That
was a twenty years ago, right, yeah, yeah, old, maybe
fifteen twenty years ago. Great movie, highly high. Do you
(13:00):
recommend for anybody out there? And if you haven't seen it?
Speaker 4 (13:03):
Underrated?
Speaker 3 (13:04):
My dad actually give him the shout out. He was
the one who told me I had to see it
a long time ago. But Clay in the early stages.
And I had a friend who was Ay. He and
his family were refugees, true refugees from Uganda because his
dad showed up one day at the law office and
Idia mean the dictator. This all makes sense in a
second Idiomean, the dictator had taken all the other law
(13:28):
partners were gone and they were never seen again. Right,
Idioman was making people disappear. My friend's dad said, we're
going right now. They fled to Australia, CA. But that's
what a refugee is. Yeah, that's a refugee, right, that's
someone who should get asylum in this country. But in
the movie, you see there's all these all of a sudden,
there's like a you know, it's a beautiful street scene
people are kind of drinking, hanging out, and then a
(13:50):
van will pull up and they'll throw a bunch of
people into the van at gunpoint, and they just keep saying, oh,
that's a Boudet, men, meaning a boute was the leader
before eighty means power, And no one's supposed to ask
any questions because oh, look, you gotta do what you
gotta do to deal with you a bot amen, you know. Yeah,
And you have that going on with this white supremacist
stuff here in this country when the Biden administration is saying, oh,
(14:12):
we have to be so afraid of the white supremacist
all the time. It is the shiny object meant to
distract people from the decay and destruction that the leftist
policies are wreaking right now. Right It's the thing that people, Oh,
I'm so scared of the bad guys, so I'm not
actually gonna think about what's really happening in this country.
Forrest Whittaker incredible performance in this amazing right A plus phenomenal.
(14:35):
I don't know if you got an Oscar I think
he was nominated, but he's phenomenal in that movie. So
if you're looking for a watch, I would tell everybody.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
Check that one out. That is a good movie.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
We come back, We'll continue to break this down. What
is the goal here and how quickly now will this
story vanish now that we have yet another I keep
kind of joking about this, Buck, but it's like we
keep going through the Clayton Bigsby example, that Dave Chapelle,
who they had the funny skit back in the day
(15:03):
on the Chappelle Show they had the black white supremacist
who was blind and wasn't aware of course that he
was actually black, so he was a blind black white supremacist.
I feel like they're an awful lot of minority white
supremacist all of a sudden, God forbid, by the way,
there actually be a white supremacist out there who actually
manages an attack. I hope that never happens because there
(15:24):
aren't very many white supremacists out there period, but that
is the fever dream of the Biden White House right now.
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Welcome back to Clay and Buck. You know, there's a
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Believe still, and particularly among some of the Democrats out there,
think they're fighting disinformation.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
There are things that they think they know that ain't so.
Isn't that roughly Mark Twain right, Samuel clements.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
So we're going to dive into some of this, like
do they know the Hunter Biden laptop was in fact real?
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buck Sexton show. So another fake white supremacist attack. Here's
the thing, though, Buck, when you make these arguments, when
you toss them out there, a lot of people never
see the truth. We talk a lot on this program
about trying to make sure we get our facts right
(19:25):
so that you can agree or disagree with our opinions.
But the facts on this program we try to always
get right, and if we get a factor wrong, we
try to come back and say, hey, so we said this,
but the reality is here, here was actually what that represented.
And you guys out there listening to us, by and large,
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are pretty well informed on both left and right arguments,
because when you live in America today, you can't miss
far left wing our You have to live with them
on a day to day basis. Some of you might
have freaking pronouns in your email address because you feel
like you have to do it in order to keep
your job. But what's interesting is we get attacked all
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the time on the right center part of the country
for things that are said that end up not being true.
But the amount of things that you have to believe
that are not true on the left keeps growing, and
certainly the idea that men and women aren't unique is
(20:33):
one of them. But I saw this information yesterday, Buck,
And if you wonder, hey, what's the impact of telling
lies and of the media helping you to propagate those lies,
and of no one out there ever telling you that
the things that you believe are not true. Here are
some examples. This came out in a recent poll and
(20:54):
I saw Glenn Greenwald share this. Buck, do you think
the Hunter Biden laptop is real or is it Russian disinformation?
Fifty nine percent of Americans now believe that's real. That's good,
but Buck, forty one percent still believe the lie that
the Hunter Biden laptop is Russian disinformation, including nearly sixty
(21:19):
percent of Democrat voters. And it doesn't stop there. Do
you believe that Trump colluded with Russia?
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Forty four percent of voters still believe that there was
Russian collusion, including seventy percent of Democrats. And do you
believe the Steele dossier to one hundred percent made up?
Do you believe the Steele dossier and the allegations against
Trump from a Russian hotel are accurate? Forty four percent
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of people still believe that the Steele dossier is a
true story, including seventy one percent of Democrats. When you
believe falsehoods, Buck that Democrats are never held accountable for
their falsehoods. Nothing happens. We started about January sixth, For
(22:12):
years now, this is craziness. Seventy percent of people still
believing in the Steele dossier.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
We have to reframe, though, the purpose of belief as
it pertains to the Democrat base and the left in
this country. It's a little bit like the fifty one
intelligence officers who put their names to that letter. They
knew they were lying. Their purpose wasn't to inform the
public and tell them what they thought was true. Their
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purpose was to lie. And when you see for a
lot of Democrats, they don't ever actually think, oh, the
Hunter Biden laptop is fake or it's really it doesn't matter.
They know the same way that they knew they had
to double mask outside alone, that this is a function
of obedience training and bend the need. This is effectively
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Pavlovian conditioning. You are to believe these things irrespective of
the truth one way or the other, because that puts
you in the group with the good people. The non
white supremacist January sixth, Trump are all that right. All
you have to do is believe these things. The falseness
of them, the fact that these things are untrue, doesn't
(23:23):
upset the left. They don't care, and they never even
get to the point of thinking about whether it's true
or not, because they know that it was always about
political or rather they've been brainwashed into political allegiance from
the start. It's just about what their side thinks. It's
my team, your team, right. But I mean, I think
it's important for everyone to see this because we are,
(23:44):
to your point, constantly lectured about twenty twenty and January
sixth and all these things Democrats in a way that
was devious and far reaching. Right, I had nothing to
do with January sixth. You had nothing to do with
January sixth, None of the concern as we know in media,
none of the people that you know that that we
(24:06):
deal with in our day to day lives had anything
to do with it. Okay, But when you look at
what they tried against Trump in twenty sixteen, with the
soft coup of the Russia, collusion with the deep state
and the media.
Speaker 4 (24:18):
They were all over it.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
Everybody on the Democrat Party was in on that, from
Pelosi on down. Everybody was trying to destroy Trump with
that lie. They were all a part of that coup attempt.
And so when you look at it, you see increasingly Claison.
This is what really concerns me. These are the seeds
of a totalitarian society. And I know that that sounds
(24:42):
a little, you know that sounds a little come on, right,
But what we saw with COVID and what we see
now with the gender ideology stuff and the demand that
you have to believe things that are demonstrably untrue to
be in good standing with the Democrat Party, what does.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
That say to people?
Speaker 3 (25:00):
One of AOC could not come on this show and
defend the proposition that biological males men don't have an
advantage in women's sports, But she'll pass legislation, and she'll
push with her little Twitter account, with her millions of
idiot followers, these lies as much as she possibly can,
and you'll see this all across the board. With these Democrats.
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It doesn't even matter that the position is indefensible. The
point is they are brainwashing sheep to give them political power.
Speaker 4 (25:27):
And they know it. They know it.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
And this is why Buck, when CNN and MSNBC don't
cover this, did Rachel Maddow come on and say, Hey, guys,
I know I created a massive belief in all of
you that Russia collusion was going on, that Trump was
the Manchurian candidate, that the only reason he's in the
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White House is because of collusion that existed with Russian
state security that they rigged the election in twenty sixteen.
Did she come on at all all and shared the
Durham report?
Speaker 4 (26:02):
Of course not.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
Have they paid any attention at all to the fact
that the Hunter Biden laptop by and large is one
hundred percent real, and so, I mean, when you're talking
about seventy percent of Democrats, the lies worked. Biden got
the cover, remember Buck, they wrote it. It had all
of the hallmarks I believe was the phrase of Russian disinformation.
Speaker 4 (26:26):
Biden went right out.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
At the debate and argued that has anybody have you
seen on MSNBC or CNN them calling back up that
comment from the debate and saying, hey, Joe Biden, would
you still say this today? Given that everybody now, even
these ridiculous left wing media companies have now essentially acknowledged
the New York Times, the Washington Post that these are real,
(26:50):
This is a real laptop.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
Think about the weasel words they used to there. You know,
you could if you had someone's ring camera footage of
them thrown out the you know, taking out the trash
in the morning. You could say, Clay, the video I
saw has all the hallmarks of someone disposing of a
dead body.
Speaker 4 (27:05):
Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
Technically true, right, all the hallmarks of dead body disposal. Oh,
it's actually someone getting rid of some recycling cans, which
we can talk about this too, by the way, more
information clay recycling is trash, meaning you should throw it out.
It's a waste of everyone's time. On the plastic side,
for sure, we can talk about some of the other stuff.
(27:28):
But the disinformation belief is necessary for democrats these days
because otherwise they have to start I think there's a
cascading effect that they want to avoid. Once you admit
that actually men and women are different, once you have
that mental and spiritual fortitude of basic truth, then you
start to question other things too. And people want a
(27:50):
lot of people want masters, They want to be controlled,
they want to obey, and that mindset, that emotional and
psychological positioning, is unfortunate. There's a huge crossover with being
a democrat and a leftist in America today.
Speaker 4 (28:05):
You want people to tell you.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
What to do and what to think and how to believe,
and you don't want anyone to challenge that. Freedom is
scary for people play. Individualism is scary for a lot
of folks out there. That's really what we're seeing as
a country.
Speaker 4 (28:18):
No doubt.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
And we'll continue to talk about that because my goodness,
just the lies, I mean, the lies are getting more
and more ridiculous, including we're going to really go after
this some of the audio to play for you on Florida,
according to left wingers now, the state of Florida, which
is setting all time records for tourism and travel, which
(28:40):
is adding hundreds of thousands of new residents every single year, White, Black, Asian,
and Hispanic. If you're gay or if you are black,
the n DOUBLEACP wants you to know it's not safe
for you to be in Florida, despite the fact that
many of the top officials at the NAACP but the
actually in Florida. We'll get into that, we'll have some
(29:01):
fun with it in the meantime. How many of you
out there are worried about your family's history vanishing. I
bet in the back of your mind a lot of
you are. You've got older relatives. How about those old
VCR tapes? How many people still have a VCR in
their house. We had a conversation the other day because
(29:22):
we had all the DVDs right, all the old movies
that the kids have been watching. We only have one
DVD player left, and it just happens to be an Xbox.
How much media in your house can you not play?
How many of those old VHS tapes are slowly disintegrating
right now as I'm talking to you. Those are some
(29:43):
of the best memories that you and your family have. Dad, Grandma, Grandpa,
somebody walking around with that camcorder on the shoulder, giving
a lot of us in the eighties and the nineties
a window into what our house was like. How many
of you have spent a Christmas morning where you run downstairs,
you start to open the presence and you look up
(30:06):
and there's Dad with that VHS, that big boxy recorder
on his shoulder. Where are those tapes? You know, those
aren't made to last very long. It's time for you
to make sure that your family's memories, your family's history,
can be preserved for the next generation, for you and
your family to be able to go back and watch, Hey,
(30:27):
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Speaker 3 (31:41):
Welcome back to Clay and Buck eight hundred two eight
two two a A two. We got a bunch of
calls coming in. We also wanted to share some of
the audio out there that we have with all of you.
First off on this on this notion of disinformation the BBC,
(32:05):
which you know, if you ever want to watch news
that's meant to make you fall asleep in the middle
of the day, turn on the BBC.
Speaker 4 (32:12):
It does a very good job, you know, it's always.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
Somehow everyone and there's still this belief with the BBC
that if it's news from a part of the world
that no one's like been to, who's watching it or
really cares much about it's that's the most important news.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
You know.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
If it's a country you have to Google to find
out where it is, like then the BBC is all
over it. But BBC is launching you see this Clay
VBC Verify. You're going to see more and more of this.
So it's a news organization that is working to tell
everybody what the truth is, to root out disinformation.
Speaker 4 (32:47):
Play two.
Speaker 7 (32:48):
Welcome to BBC Verifies. We are a team of investigative journalists.
The point of the teeth is to verify video, to
fact check, to counter disinformation, and to analyze really complex
stories so we can get to the try. I'm investigating
the UK's conspiracy theory movement. I'm trying to understand more
about how it's evolved and intensified since the pandemic. I'm
looking at the alternative media that finds itself at the
(33:11):
heart of this movement, and a conspiracy theory newspaper that's
a part of that as well.
Speaker 4 (33:15):
I'm looking at the way weird enough.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
As much as I love the fancy accent, which I do,
actually it's such an advantage British accent. We all know this, right,
Like you see this various friends of ours with British
accents that call them the show.
Speaker 4 (33:26):
I'm like, that's just not fair.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
But Clay noticed that the focus is immediately on the
conspiracy theorists in the era of COVID. Why doesn't the
BBC have a fact check going on of the National
Health Service getting every single aspect of COVID entirely wrong
and killing more people than would have died if they
had just sat on the sidelines and let people live
(33:50):
their lives.
Speaker 4 (33:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
One reason why we talked yesterday about why there's such
a tremendous amount of distrust out there is because once
you are a where that someone has either lied to
you or willfully distorted facts in a way that is
equivalent to a lie, why would you ever trust those
people again? And the idea that you can't trust the
(34:14):
CDC anymore because you know that they lied to you
when they said that masks were eighty percent effective. Even
worse than that, they said, remember for a while, Hey,
if everybody would just wear a mask for one month,
we would end COVID forever. No, those were lies, right,
and that now the COVID shot is basically vanishing. I
even saw buck. Did you see this? Remember the J
(34:36):
and J shot you got? They're destroying it and not
even allowing it to continue to exist. For anybody out
there who got the Johnson and Johnson COVID shot, they
are legitimately destroying it and no longer allowing it to
exist anywhere.
Speaker 3 (34:52):
Is what is the value of something that you throw
in the trash clay? It is worthless? Yes, the shot
is true, worthless, not even worth recycling because you can't
The shot is absolutely positively not even worth storing or
holding on to or giving away for They literally cannot
(35:13):
give this stuff away for free because nobody wants it,
and we're supposed to think that this was somehow a
good process. I'm telling people, and I hate to because
I know that they're a lot. Look, you know, early days,
it wasn't the fog of war period of COVID and
everything else. When you read the real data on the ventilators,
and this really hits home. I mean, the only person
(35:35):
that I knew personally, trying to make sure that's correct,
the only person that I knew personally who died from
COVID died on a ventilator and died early on in
the pandemic. When you see what the real data shows
you about the rush to put COVID patients on ventilators,
it'll make your stomach turn because a lot of them
(35:56):
would have lived if they had just chosen a different modality.
And there are people who tell you from inside of
these big hospitals, staff was so scared because of Fauci
and because of Northern Italy and because of what was happening,
and everyone's so freaked out that they didn't really want
to deal with constant care of people that were having
(36:16):
trouble breathing because they were afraid of COVID, so they
stuck them unventilated. I mean, you know, if we're gonna
fact check, if we're going to speak the truth about
every but no, the BBC is going to look at
the conspiracy theoristso or anti vacs. I hate that term too,
because anti codevacs just means you can read. It just
(36:37):
means you know math and English or whatever language you're reading.
Speaker 4 (36:41):
No doubt.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
And that's why I would say the one really great
addition that Elon Musk has brought to Twitter so far,
this community notes concept where they can check and provide
context on many of the tweets that are out there,
often on far left wingers
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