September 15, 2023 • 36 mins
Democrats spin Hunter Biden charges, claim unfair treatment, lean on drug abuse. Will Hunter's art career take a hit? UFO expert says Mexico aliens are fakes, NFL running back convinced aliens have swapped places with human hosts. Trump's interview with Megyn Kelly. C&B take calls.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and buck
Sexton Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Welcome in Friday edition Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate
all of you hanging out with us as we roll
through into the weekend and hopefully power you into fantastic weekends.
We got a lot to discuss fallout Hunter Biden indictment
news came down yesterday while we were discussing many different
(00:27):
topics that news.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
What is the takeaway? Where are we headed there?
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Trump has done interviews with both Meghan Kelly and NBC News.
We've got a few of those cuts to discuss now
that Trump is sitting down for long form interviews with NBC.
It's I think particularly interesting in the Megan Kelly interview.
Also a lot there. We've got continued fallout dealing with
(00:54):
the illegal basically overrunning of New York City and many
other American city as well in terms of being able
to take care of all of those challenges. And we've
got a couple of guests for you to let you
kind of know where we're headed. Andy McCarthy, who does
I think the best job breaking down the legal process anywhere.
(01:14):
He'll be on with us at one thirty and then
Gerard Baker of The Wall Street Journal. I am an
unabashed huge fan of the Wall Street Journal and the
content that they put out every day. He is a
editor and has a prominent role there. I think he's
got a new book out that should be a fun
conversation as well. That is going to be an hour
two and hour three. But Buck, we begin with Jensaki
(01:37):
on MSNBC last night discussing what is going on in
the White House now that Hunter Biden has been charged.
We have a heartbroken president. Listen to cut eight.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
I think on the politics of this, you know, millions
of Americans have dealt with family members who have dealt
with drug addiction, who've dealt with alcohol addiction, who have
dealt with a range of addiction. My bet is right now,
this is a heartbroken president in the White House who
is worried about his son, and we're all watching to
see kind of what happens with.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
This heartbroken worried about his son.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
The complete rig job, the sweetheart deal that they all
worked out, Buck, that was supposed to have been signed
off on in July, just about six weeks ago. My
how the plot twist has occurred here where suddenly Hunter
Biden at least potentially is facing one series of charges
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we still need. And this is where I would hammer
home Buck and I haven't heard a lot of explanation
about the timing on this side. We still need all
the charges felony charges brought on the tax evasion issues,
but this is at least a start. Here's a question
for you. Do you think charges on tax evasion will
ever get brought?
Speaker 1 (02:54):
No, not serious ones. I don't think that serious.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
Again, I'm sticking to what I've thought all along here,
which is there's a very very clear pattern of they
just keep delaying and stretching this thing out as far
as they possibly can, which has already taken a Hunter
out of substantial legal jeopardy, and there's no bringing it
back because of the statute of limitations. So my sense
(03:19):
here is they'll probably give him some kind of a
plea deal that will even if it's felony charges won't
have any There'll be a diversionary program attached to it,
so it'll be some kind of They're going to lean
on the fact that he's a drug addict to say
he doesn't need punishment, he needs treatment. And there'll be
some he goes to, like you know, a treatment center
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or something. He's not going to federal prison, which to me,
under the circumstances is extreme sweetheart treatment. If that happens,
that's what I think is going to go down, because
if he has to take a real charge. Remember Weiss,
we've already established from the show Weiss is tight with
the Bidens. And Weiss would not have been not only
would he not have been assigned by Merrick Garland, which
(04:03):
is not even allowable under DOJ rules to be appointed
as a special counsel if he wasn't a Biden fixes
in guy. I mean, he's somebody who's already shown us
up to this point his willingness. I mean, Clay that
that plea deal he said was crazy town, right, I
mean this is if you had shown me what they
(04:23):
were trying to do before the deal, I would have
actually agreed with you that the judge would had to
reject it because it was like, yeah, this deal. And also,
don't check out anything on page number fifteen, subsection C.
That's gonna make a whole other felony go away that
we're not even talking about here, Like this is it
was absurd, and they that was.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
What the prosecutors were trying to that.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
People have to remember, it's not like that was just
Hunter's defense team.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
The prosecution signed off on that.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
Yeah, the prosecution No, I know, you know, but like, yeah,
it's not just the judge that the prosecutors were in
on that scam. So I still think that as much
as they're doing all this supporting now, I you saw it,
like Hunter is dejected and said, and you know, I
think that he knows at the end of the day,
he will not spend a day in prison, and that
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is under the circumstances extreme favoritism in terms of the treatment.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
That's my that's my assessment.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
I also love this this this Dan Goldman guy. He's
a congressman from New York, right, am I am? I
correcting that Dan Goldman, Congressman from New York, Democrat congressman.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Obviously he has become the new Adam Shift.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
He will just go so far down the rabbit hole
of propaganda. He is like Iraqi Ministry of Information level
Bagdad Bob crazy. He says, Hunter Biden is getting the
worst of a two tier justice system. But before we
play this clipbuck, imagine saying this when Trump is facing
(05:56):
ninety one felonies and they're trying to put him in
prison for the rest of his life, effectively for being
the chief opposition candidate to Joe Biden. Listen to Dan
Goldman on the two tier justice system that Hunter Biden
is a victim of.
Speaker 5 (06:10):
I've never heard of this charge being brought. I understand
it is occasionally brought here and there, but in the discretion,
you know, I was in the Southern District of New York.
We looked for felons who were in possession of guns.
We did not look for people who were subject to
substance abuse for eleven days in the possession of a gun.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
So this is unusual.
Speaker 5 (06:35):
And when you hear of the two tiered justice system,
I would argue that Hunter Biden is getting worse of
the worst of it because his last name is Biden,
not the other way around.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
This is this is class given me credit, This is
this is this is amazing.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
It's gas lighting. It's a mental manipulation technique that they're
using here where they see the problem and they accuse you. Know,
it would be like if if you wanted someone to
stop hitting you, and you hadn't confront of them about
it yet, because you know, they get angry and they
hit you, and then when do they show up, they're like,
you know, I'm really I'm really not comfortable with the
violence that you're perpetrating against me. It completely upends the
(07:16):
conversation and makes it really hard to have any understanding
of anything else going forward, because it's not just that
you're lying, you're going in the opposite direction of the truth.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Right.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
It's one thing to say hundred probably shouldn't have been charged,
which is crazy, but to say that Hunter is being
targeted for harsher treatment because he's Joe Biden's son, this
is Bonker's level insane. I mean, this is like saying
Anthony Fauci was way too lax about COVID measures and
was way too individualistic and letting people approach it like
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I don't.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Even know what to say. But for some people this
will work.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
The problem is, in our mass media environment, the most
aggressive lies are many times the most effective.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Well, and this is why I would be encouraging every
Republican out there to be hammering when are the charges
coming on tax evasion?
Speaker 1 (08:10):
That's what has.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
To happen, right, because and by the way, they really
I think should try and charge for what they let
expire in fifteen and sixteen. That's also indefensible that they
just let that statute of limitations run out and now
they can only get him on I think it's seventeen
and eighteen calendar years for not paying his taxes. Those
(08:33):
charges need to be filed immediately. You can amend the
pleating as necessary. You've had five years to get them ready.
Right now, I think it's fair to ask, not did
Hunter Biden get treated unfairly? But are they still charging
him with the absolute lowest amount of public charges that
(08:58):
they could because a lot of times these charges will
get pled down to a misdemeanor. Again, to your point, Buck, certainly,
I don't understand why Hunter would be stressed out that
much about this, because if your dad has to get
out of jail free card, what the worst case scenario
is he has to play it.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
I'll tell you what I think, because this came up
in the last twenty four hours. What I think the
problem is here for Hunter is the Biden brand is
becoming less valuable, and he's worried about them. He's worried
about them, so it's about the money. He's worried about
the millions that he's going to pay. I don't know
if this will cost to millions, but certainly hundreds of thousands.
(09:37):
No question that he would have to pay for a
legal defense here, even if he was just going to
extend and you know, lawyer it up do all that stuff.
And I think that he's also recognizing his ability to
make millions of dollars for doing nothing going forward is
effectively destroyed because at this point you would have to
(09:58):
be truly insane, unless you were, like again, some foreigner
who doesn't care about US law is like a Chinese
Communist Party member, But you would have to be insane
to want to do any business with Hunter Biden based on.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Pop has access.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Are you suggesting that his painting career is not going
to be as successful when his dad's not in the
White House?
Speaker 4 (10:18):
Oh, I don't know. I haven't have you to be fair,
have you have you seen the paintings. I have seen
the paintings.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
I mean I thought the craziest thing to me about
the paintings take leaving aside the fact that people are
paying tens of thousands of dollars for them, is that.
I believe I'm correct in this as part of the
settlement with the daughter that the Bidens would not acknowledge,
they actually gave her some of the paintings. Did you
see this like that that's how he's paying part of
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his child, you know, paternity responsibilities. That seems like a
really poor negotiation tactic by her magic to get.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
You know, you show up like a Maserati dealership and
they're like, hey, this is gonna cost you one hundred
and forty great answer sign here, and you're like, no, no,
I don't have money.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
What I do have is this amazing finger painting for you.
The article.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
The article when they wrote about the plea agreement collapsing
in New York Times, they said that there were so
many details in it that were just ridiculous. But Hunter's
attorney traveled all the way across the country to discuss
this latest twist and turn in the case with Hunter
in his painting studio, and I'm just like, come on,
(11:32):
Hunter is sitting in his painting suffer as a lawyer
doesn't need to travel all the way across the country
to have a conversation with him, right, Like, you can
call somebody on a phone, but then he's in the
studio with.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Like a paint, you know, like brush, Like he's like
he's Vincent Vengo or something.
Speaker 4 (11:46):
To show up to all of his Like if he
does end up going to trial, which I don't even
think what happened, but he should definitely show up in
like a beret and the smock and be like, I am.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Sorry, I am an artist. I forget about ZiT Texas.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
You know, Like what if he did his own room sketches,
like while sitting at the defendant stand and sold them.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Like that, that would be I don't know if that's permissible.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
He's like super handsome, and the judge really remember they
remember when Tom Brady was in the courtroom, and like
they had the most disgusting painting.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Uh, like a sketch of Tom Brady. Do you remember
the ugly Brady's.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
I don't know what tom Brady did to that guy's
girlfriend back in the day, but the guy, like Tom
Brady is an incredibly good looking man, and he made
him look like you know, Frankenstein in that picture. But
I just like the idea of Hunter like sitting at
the defendant table, you know, like sketching away. Uh, and
then you know, signing him and uh and and selling
them on the on the I mean, is there is
(12:44):
there a more pathetic thing to have done than purchased
Hunter Biden's artwork.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
Well, it depends on who you are, right, if you're
somebody that realizes you're purchasing the paintings because it's a
way to pay off Hunter to try to get the
Oh I get that.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
But like if you act actually hung it up in
your house and somebody walked in there, like who's that? Like,
that's a Hunter Biden like someone to do that. If
if you and.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
And I hope Laura is listening, if you bought and
hung up a Hunter Biden painting in your home, it
would be an amazing conversation piece. Like everybody you had
over and you have to do a funny idea. Yeah,
Like you'd have to do it like they have at
the Metropolitan Museum of Art, like you know, plexiglass, maybe
a light above it, and you could play some some
Vivaldi quietly in the background.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
That's how you got to do it.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
A Hunter Biden original would actually be hysterical to put
in my house. I would actually, I mean, it would
be amazing It's like, you know, some people who are
really successful, they put up paintings of themselves, which is like,
I mean, it seems a little bit cocky to have
a painting of yourself in your own house, Like.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Yeah, we know who you are at your house.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
There you are in the wall too, But an original
Hunter Biden and when you first walk into foyer would
be amazing.
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Speaker 2 (15:38):
I'll just point out it's not a coincidence that the
former CIA guy comes in here and just keeps throwing
cold water on clear alien invasions that are are taking
place on a regular basis. Did you see this, by
the way, that is funny that the alien people are fighting.
Speaker 4 (15:59):
Yeah, guys are like, let's let's not talk crazy talk
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Speaker 2 (16:04):
It's just never good when the UFO guys like that.
Uf I go a UFOU likely if you're like the.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
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this bigfoot footage is just unacceptable to present.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
But going.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
I saw this headline and I thought, you know what,
I kind of respect the call here that this guy
has made.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Let me pull it up.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
One of the former athletes, our current athlete came out
and said that not only did he believe that aliens
had come to Earth, he said that he believed that
aliens were actually walking among us and in hiding.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Yeah, here it is.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Not only does Panthers running back Miles Sanders believe aliens exist,
he's convinced they're already on Earth swapping places with human hosts.
Now that my friend is a call like he's not
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before this. This NFL running back is like, no, no, no,
aliens are here and they're shape shifting and they're constantly
(17:08):
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Speaker 1 (17:12):
To be to be out there, that's that would be
a new one. I mean, that's that's bold these.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
You know what I will say about the Mexican UFO aliens.
Speaker 4 (17:23):
Excuse me, the corpses of actual aliens, not even corpses.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Yeah yeah, sorry, corpses of aliens.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
It seems unlikely to me that the corpses of aliens
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Speaker 1 (17:38):
Et it looked like et.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Yeah, Yoda. One of them looked like Yoda and the
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Speaker 4 (17:50):
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Speaker 2 (18:53):
Getting Klay, Travis buck Sexton, show Hunter Biden indictment dues
came down. We continue to break down the latest on that.
But also Trump has done a couple of interviews and
we wanted to play some cuts from Megan Kelly and
also NBC. So let's start here. This is not so,
(19:15):
there's both good and bad. In the Megan Kelly interview,
here is bad. Trump says he doesn't know who gave
Anthony Fauci a presidential commendation while he was president. Yeah,
you're the president. It's a presidential commendation. Here's cut nine.
Speaker 6 (19:30):
The truth is, though, not only did you not fire Fauci,
who was loathed by many many millions of Republicans in particular,
but also some Democrats. By the way, you made him
a star. You made him a star. This is the
criticism of you, that you made him the face of
the White House coronavirus, that he was added every presser,
that he was running heard for the administration on COVID.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
And that you actually.
Speaker 6 (19:49):
Give him a presidential commendation before you left office.
Speaker 7 (19:52):
Wouldn't you like a duel over on that. I don't
know who gave him the commendation. I really don't know
who gave him the commendation.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Wedation. Yeah, but people, people that are voting Trump, you know,
they're not gonna care at all.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
So it is I think this would be my advice
to Trump on COVID. And I'm gonna play another cut.
And Gavin Newsome, my buddy with the French laundry, basically
came out and said, we got a lot wrong and
we didn't know any better.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Now it's all.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
It's all that we did the best we could with
what we knew then, which is the but he admits
they got stuff wrong, yes, now.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
And so that's where I think, like cut eleven here, Well,
let's play ten and eleven.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Just let you listen to it. So cut eleven.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Is Trump being asked if he has any COVID regrets
with Megan Kelly.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Here's what he said, Operation.
Speaker 6 (20:46):
Warp speed though. That was on the vaccines. They were
rushed through. They have helped but also hurt a lot
of people. And your White House actually supported mask mandates.
So wouldn't you like a do over on any of that.
Speaker 7 (20:57):
Look, when this came in, nobody knew what the hell was.
It sounded like an ancient you know, a pandemic. You
thought that was from two hundred years ago or from
nineteen seventeen. We never thought you'd have a pandemic. Nobody
had any idea. We got word that bad things were
happening in China right around the Wuhan Clinic. And I
was the one that said it was in the Wuhan clinic,
and I stuck with it and it was. It was
(21:18):
absolutely it came out of the Wuhan Clinic. But you
take a look, and what we did was this was
brand new. Nobody knew what the hell it was. This dust.
Somebody said, there's dust coming in from China and it's
killing people in Italy, and it's killing people in France,
and it's going to kill people here. And by the way,
I shut it down to China. That was a big move.
(21:39):
I say thousands, hundreds of thousands of lives by doing it.
But honestly, I don't blame a lot of people because
nobody knew what it was. Now we do understand it somewhat,
nobody really understands it even now.
Speaker 4 (21:52):
So what part look the falls of Trump. Trump doesn't
Trump doesn't do apologies, he doesn't do regrets. That's where
we got' that's the situation with COVID. People can either
like that or not like it, but that's the situation,
all right. And then this is the attack that has
actually worked, right. Trump has slammed Ron DeSantis and I
(22:13):
didn't think this was gonna work. He said he wasn't
actually good on COVID, and he keeps saying it, and
it is evidently landed here he said it again. Here's
cut ten with Megan Kelly. These were all part of
the interview. Trump says Desantos was bad on COVID.
Speaker 7 (22:27):
I was not a big fan of Fauci. If you
look at Ronda sanctimonious he was. This guy said the
greatest things I can give you articles that Fauci's great,
He's wonderful. We love him. We don't do anything without Fauci.
This one on for months.
Speaker 6 (22:40):
He didn't listen to Fauci.
Speaker 7 (22:41):
He did one hundred percent. Look he's shut down fot
I will give you. He shut down Florida for a month. Oh,
he's shut it down for a lot long. He shut
down the beaches, he shut down the roads, he shut
down the hospital. He was shutting down everything. He also
had long lines of people getting the jab, as he
called it. Let's all go get the jab. The guy
tried to change history in Florida. Now, eventually Florida was open.
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But a lot of these other governors didn't shut down
at all. South Dakota didn't shut down McMaster. South Carolina
didn't shut down Tennessee. There are states that didn't shut
down at all. They probably did the best job.
Speaker 6 (23:14):
But Ron DeSantis was under a lot of pressure, especially
given the population, the age of a lot of Florida's citizens.
Speaker 7 (23:21):
I'm not trying to blame anybody, but he should say
I closed it down. Eventually, we opened it, but I
closed it down. But I gave him the right to
keep it open if he wanted to. I let the
governors make the determination as to whether or not to
close it down.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
Okay, where where do you want to start with that one?
I mean, first of all, he was the first. He's
the first. And this isn't about Desanta's for president, by
the way, just to be clear, I mean Trump Trump
is clearly going to be the nominee. So I just
think it would be helpful if we would maybe steer
the conversation in the direction of factual accuracy because he's
going to face a Democrat on this, and he's going
to have to explain to independent voters what he did
(23:57):
in a general election. So, I mean, there's just a
lot of stuff there. I'm confused. Ron DeSantis said people
waiting for shots. Trump loves the shots. He says he
saved hundreds of millions of In the same interview, he
said he saved hundreds of millions of lives with the shots,
or one hundred million lives with the shots.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
So the shots good to the shots bad.
Speaker 4 (24:13):
I mean, we could sit here all day, but at
this point, people are gonna believe what they're.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Gonna believe about this situation.
Speaker 4 (24:19):
I was in New York, I was in Florida throughout
the entirety of the pandemic and the lockdowns. The notion
that Florida was similar to New York, or that Florida
wasn't better than every other country in I'm sorry, every
other state in the country. I mean maybe one or
two other places you put in a similar category, but
with far less population of population density, which matters. It's
(24:39):
just not a reflection of reality. But again, Clay, does
anyone care. I don't think anyone care. This is we're
kind of at the point where like people don't care. So, okay, fine,
you know, doesn't what actually happened doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
We're at four months from the official Iowa caucus.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
Vote and he's up like a million points and he's
gonna be the nominees.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
So like, people don't care. Okay, that's where we are.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
I will point this out, and I do think this
is important. They're trying to get more COVID shots, and
you heard us talk with Alex Berenson about this earlier
in the week, and Alex Berenson, I think he said
that he would not get his kids the COVID shot
would be over his dead body.
Speaker 4 (25:17):
I think was his exact quote. He's been dropping f
bombs on Twitter over fire. He's very upset about it. Yes,
he's very upset. But I will say I haven't seen
anybody else. Tell me if I'm wrong on this, Buck,
But Latipoe, who is the Surgeon General of Florida. Doctor
Latipoe and the Santis and their.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Team have actually said basically, no one under the age
of sixty five should get these shots. Have you seen
any other Republican governor saying that, because I think it
was the right.
Speaker 4 (25:48):
In fact, and this is a discussion that we had
a long time ago on this show. I believe the
only state of like I mean to let me know
if I'm wrong about Texas or Tennessee. But Florida doesn't
allow allow mask man mandates, doesn't allow vaccine mandates. Not
It leaves it to like individual entities or no. No,
cannot do it, cannot mandate these things. And not every state,
(26:11):
including I mean I'm talking about Republican states now, have
done that, and I think.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
They all should do that.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
Others were more willing to bend to corporate interest perhaps
on whether they're going to allow like the major health
system in their state to determine mask or vaccine policies.
That's a thing that people might want to look into.
And some of the states that are talked about as
having done a good job on this, But I you know,
I don't know, man, It's why is it so hard
to just say that we we you know there, we
(26:37):
made some mistakes. We did things the best we could
at the time. I would have done this and that
differently and going forward, I'll nail it all and get
it all right.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (26:46):
I don't know why that's that wouldn't cost nothing. It
would cost nothing.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
But we're not.
Speaker 4 (26:50):
It's not going to happen. So I mean, and people
are going to call in probably then be mad at me,
like why are you saying Trump's gonna be the nominee.
We're back Trump one hundred percent. Trump's you know, we're
all we all get the reality here that's going on.
You know, God bless him. Is just said yesterday, I
think he's gonna be able to defeat Biden and go
the distance and do the whole thing. I just wish
on this issue he would just be like, guys, I
love you all. We made a couple of mistakes. Florida
(27:11):
actually did some good stuff. I'm gonna be your guy
going forward. I've learned all the lessons. But that's not him,
and he's Trump and I'm not. And that's the end
of it.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
I would like for Trump to say Fauci was a mistake,
because he's pointed out when he's made other mistakes in
terms of the people that worked in the White House
and surrounded him, and.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
He ended up firing ignominiously most of his major appointments
to the White House over the course of his four years.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
Yes, so why not say Fauci deserves to be in prison?
And as this virus evolved, what Fauci was saying in
front of Congress, those were lies and I think there
should be consequences.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
For him for the lies that he told. Look, guy's
supposed to be fair about this.
Speaker 4 (28:01):
I mean, Trump doesn't have to say it because the
party has decided that Trump is the nominee even without
him saying and that. I think that's how he views it.
So why, Oh, it's what differences of me?
Speaker 1 (28:11):
You know what I mean? Like, it's just Trump.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
Trump's bare knuckle approach is like, why should I have
to say, Oh, I made a mistake. Republican parties behind
me sixty percent ahead of my nearest rival. So if
I'm gonna do a little bit of creative writing, I'm
doing a little creative writing. It'll be great against Biden.
It'll help me win. I think that's the attitude. I
really just think that it doesn't even the historical, Like
we could sit here and play clips for anybody who
wanted to hear it of like what he said about
(28:34):
the Destantis I'm talking about DeSantis as governor, DeSantis as
a candidate right now, Well what he said about DeSantis
on the COVID lockdowns, and it would completely contradict everything
he just told Megan Kelly.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
And people don't care. So it's fine, you know, it comes.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Back to unfortunately, I think, and look, Trump was far
better than most Democrats by far on COVID. But it
feels on some level buck like a lot of people
just want to pretend COVID never happened, yep, and want to.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
Move past it entirely.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
I think that's true too, And there's not going to
be any consequences in any direction for any decision that
was made during COVID. Look, if if that you know,
that's the attitude, and it ends up being successful in
twenty twenty four and we get back a Trump economy
and a Trump border and an America First movement that
is united great, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
Like, that's if it works.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
This is the promise of this all is that it's
going to work, and we're going to be successful, and
we're going to put the country back on the right track.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
So I don't want to get bogged down in.
Speaker 4 (29:36):
You know, undermining or dealing because really, at this point, Clay,
we're talking about it's not technically true yet, but you've
already said it. He's our guy. He's I said July
the guy in the race for us. That's the way
it's going to go.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
I said July seventeenth that I thought it was over,
and meaning looking at the polling, looking at everything else.
It is now, you know, September fifteenth, two months since then,
if anything, the Trump position has strengthened. So I have
not seen any suggestion that anyone else.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
Is going to be able to be the nominee. I mean,
I just haven't.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
I mean, and if there had been some form of weakening,
we just saw the Fox News poll came out last night,
and it showed that Trump now has a sixty to
thirteen lead over second place, I mean a forty seven
point lead in the Fox News poll, and in April
(30:35):
he had a thirty two point lead, in February had
a fifteen point lead.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
This is why we have primaries.
Speaker 4 (30:40):
The Republican the Republican faithful have not officially spoken yet,
but they have indicated very clearly how they feel about this.
And so when we look at what look, Meghan did
a great job. Just to be clear, Meghan I think
did a really good interview. I listened to it. It
was really interesting, and Trump also covered a lot of
ground where you're just saying, like, this is how he
became the play phenomenon he is. And a focused Trump
(31:02):
that brings back the best ideas or continues on with
the best ideas is formidable against Biden.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
I think can beat Biden.
Speaker 4 (31:10):
But you know, on these core issues about I shouldn't
say core issues, but on these remaining issues about COVID,
I mean, he tells everybody the SHOT's amazing and saved
one hundred million lives. And if I tell anybody right
now who is all in on Trump, that that's not
really an accurate reflection of what happened with the shot.
They get very angry at me. And I need those people.
We all need those people. We all need to be
on the same team. We need to help Trump get elected.
(31:31):
So I feel like at some point you just say, Okay,
I mean, he's imperfect.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
He is an.
Speaker 4 (31:36):
Imperfect brawler, but a brawler nonetheless, and we're going He's
who we're going into battle with on our side, So
that's how we're going to go. I do think Biden's
weakness has turned the Republican primary away from a discussion
about electability because I think Biden's so weak that.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
Trump can win this election full stop. Trump can win
this election.
Speaker 4 (32:00):
That is true, and that is real, and that's why
I at this point, I feel like I get it
when people are like, why, you know, I don't like
when Republicans are piling on Republicans in a way that's
truly damaging.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
And at this point, it's like, if he's going to be.
Speaker 4 (32:12):
The guy, and it looks like he is, we got
all we got to all be ready to go to
battle with the communists on this stuff, and.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
I think it'll be decided.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Honestly, what are we one hundred and twenty days less
than that thirty sixty ninety and one to twenty basically
from the first votes being cast in Iowa. If Trump
wins Iowa, this thing's over one hundred and twenty days. Still,
you know, a lot can happen in one hundred and
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I think people want to talk about the Trump responses
in the interview because they do because they're inundating us
right now, let's do it. James in Johnson City, Tennessee.
First up here, James, what's up, hey.
Speaker 8 (34:17):
Guys, how you doing? You got a rush baby here?
Appreciate you taking the call. I just wanted to make
a comment on the clip you played at Trump just
a little bit ago. He is totally trying to take
the heat off of him and his handling of COVID.
I love Trump to death. I hope he wins the election.
Loved him as president, but the way he handled COVID
(34:39):
was his biggest.
Speaker 9 (34:40):
Blunder as president.
Speaker 8 (34:42):
And I feel like he's trying to put the heat
on others because of his handling of it.
Speaker 4 (34:48):
So, James, I appreciate that. I mean, I've said it before.
I'm not changing my tune on this one. I mean,
I think Ron DeSantis as a governor was the best
in the entire country by far.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
It's not even close.
Speaker 4 (34:59):
So to say that he did a bad job on COVID,
I don't know what people want, you know, I don't
know what anyone expects all of a sudden, it's, oh, yeah,
he was actually bad on it. Brian in Ohio, Brian,
what's up?
Speaker 5 (35:10):
Hey?
Speaker 9 (35:10):
Thank you very much. First of all, I had twenty years
in healthcare safety and infection control, and I wanted to
say President Trump was in a precarious rock and hard
places election wise. If he had if he had bucked
the system, and he was wrong. He would never had
a chance to be even elected at all. He had
(35:31):
no choice but to go along with the party with
the CDC line. I have no respect for Founci, pretty
much considering worse than Joseph Mangela myself. And anyway, Trump
didn't have a didn't have an opportunity.
Speaker 4 (35:46):
Well, well, Trump went along with the CDC recommendations for
a long time, and he is not currently the president,
so I don't know if the he couldn't have because
he would have lost is necessarily the analysis that I
would go with. Go ahead, Lake, I just think I
think it would have been interesting.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
If you can go back in time, I think Trump
would have won if he had gone balls to the
wall on every school has to be open. I think
so and so in August and September of twenty twenty
now he said school should be open. But I think
if he had made that the focal point of his pitch,
I think he would have won women.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
I think he would have won.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
Moms who were furious and fed up with the fact
that their kids were out of school. And importantly, he'd
have been one hundred percent right because the legacy that
we are going to see from all those kids who
got shut out of school, the poorest among them suffered
the most, is going to be with us for generations
to come.
Speaker 4 (36:40):
I think it's important as just a general principle. It
is possible to think someone is overall great and fantastic
and support them, but not approve of literally one hundred
percent of everything they've ever done.
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and buck
Sexton Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Welcome in Friday edition Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate
all of you hanging out with us as we roll
through into the weekend and hopefully power you into fantastic weekends.
We got a lot to discuss fallout Hunter Biden indictment
news came down yesterday while we were discussing many different
(00:27):
topics that news.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
What is the takeaway? Where are we headed there?
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Trump has done interviews with both Meghan Kelly and NBC News.
We've got a few of those cuts to discuss now
that Trump is sitting down for long form interviews with NBC.
It's I think particularly interesting in the Megan Kelly interview.
Also a lot there. We've got continued fallout dealing with
(00:54):
the illegal basically overrunning of New York City and many
other American city as well in terms of being able
to take care of all of those challenges. And we've
got a couple of guests for you to let you
kind of know where we're headed. Andy McCarthy, who does
I think the best job breaking down the legal process anywhere.
(01:14):
He'll be on with us at one thirty and then
Gerard Baker of The Wall Street Journal. I am an
unabashed huge fan of the Wall Street Journal and the
content that they put out every day. He is a
editor and has a prominent role there. I think he's
got a new book out that should be a fun
conversation as well. That is going to be an hour
two and hour three. But Buck, we begin with Jensaki
(01:37):
on MSNBC last night discussing what is going on in
the White House now that Hunter Biden has been charged.
We have a heartbroken president. Listen to cut eight.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
I think on the politics of this, you know, millions
of Americans have dealt with family members who have dealt
with drug addiction, who've dealt with alcohol addiction, who have
dealt with a range of addiction. My bet is right now,
this is a heartbroken president in the White House who
is worried about his son, and we're all watching to
see kind of what happens with.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
This heartbroken worried about his son.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
The complete rig job, the sweetheart deal that they all
worked out, Buck, that was supposed to have been signed
off on in July, just about six weeks ago. My
how the plot twist has occurred here where suddenly Hunter
Biden at least potentially is facing one series of charges
(02:35):
we still need. And this is where I would hammer
home Buck and I haven't heard a lot of explanation
about the timing on this side. We still need all
the charges felony charges brought on the tax evasion issues,
but this is at least a start. Here's a question
for you. Do you think charges on tax evasion will
ever get brought?
Speaker 1 (02:54):
No, not serious ones. I don't think that serious.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
Again, I'm sticking to what I've thought all along here,
which is there's a very very clear pattern of they
just keep delaying and stretching this thing out as far
as they possibly can, which has already taken a Hunter
out of substantial legal jeopardy, and there's no bringing it
back because of the statute of limitations. So my sense
(03:19):
here is they'll probably give him some kind of a
plea deal that will even if it's felony charges won't
have any There'll be a diversionary program attached to it,
so it'll be some kind of They're going to lean
on the fact that he's a drug addict to say
he doesn't need punishment, he needs treatment. And there'll be
some he goes to, like you know, a treatment center
(03:40):
or something. He's not going to federal prison, which to me,
under the circumstances is extreme sweetheart treatment. If that happens,
that's what I think is going to go down, because
if he has to take a real charge. Remember Weiss,
we've already established from the show Weiss is tight with
the Bidens. And Weiss would not have been not only
would he not have been assigned by Merrick Garland, which
(04:03):
is not even allowable under DOJ rules to be appointed
as a special counsel if he wasn't a Biden fixes
in guy. I mean, he's somebody who's already shown us
up to this point his willingness. I mean, Clay that
that plea deal he said was crazy town, right, I
mean this is if you had shown me what they
(04:23):
were trying to do before the deal, I would have
actually agreed with you that the judge would had to
reject it because it was like, yeah, this deal. And also,
don't check out anything on page number fifteen, subsection C.
That's gonna make a whole other felony go away that
we're not even talking about here, Like this is it
was absurd, and they that was.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
What the prosecutors were trying to that.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
People have to remember, it's not like that was just
Hunter's defense team.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
The prosecution signed off on that.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
Yeah, the prosecution No, I know, you know, but like, yeah,
it's not just the judge that the prosecutors were in
on that scam. So I still think that as much
as they're doing all this supporting now, I you saw it,
like Hunter is dejected and said, and you know, I
think that he knows at the end of the day,
he will not spend a day in prison, and that
(05:10):
is under the circumstances extreme favoritism in terms of the treatment.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
That's my that's my assessment.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
I also love this this this Dan Goldman guy. He's
a congressman from New York, right, am I am? I
correcting that Dan Goldman, Congressman from New York, Democrat congressman.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Obviously he has become the new Adam Shift.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
He will just go so far down the rabbit hole
of propaganda. He is like Iraqi Ministry of Information level
Bagdad Bob crazy. He says, Hunter Biden is getting the
worst of a two tier justice system. But before we
play this clipbuck, imagine saying this when Trump is facing
(05:56):
ninety one felonies and they're trying to put him in
prison for the rest of his life, effectively for being
the chief opposition candidate to Joe Biden. Listen to Dan
Goldman on the two tier justice system that Hunter Biden
is a victim of.
Speaker 5 (06:10):
I've never heard of this charge being brought. I understand
it is occasionally brought here and there, but in the discretion,
you know, I was in the Southern District of New York.
We looked for felons who were in possession of guns.
We did not look for people who were subject to
substance abuse for eleven days in the possession of a gun.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
So this is unusual.
Speaker 5 (06:35):
And when you hear of the two tiered justice system,
I would argue that Hunter Biden is getting worse of
the worst of it because his last name is Biden,
not the other way around.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
This is this is class given me credit, This is
this is this is amazing.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
It's gas lighting. It's a mental manipulation technique that they're
using here where they see the problem and they accuse you. Know,
it would be like if if you wanted someone to
stop hitting you, and you hadn't confront of them about
it yet, because you know, they get angry and they
hit you, and then when do they show up, they're like,
you know, I'm really I'm really not comfortable with the
violence that you're perpetrating against me. It completely upends the
(07:16):
conversation and makes it really hard to have any understanding
of anything else going forward, because it's not just that
you're lying, you're going in the opposite direction of the truth.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Right.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
It's one thing to say hundred probably shouldn't have been charged,
which is crazy, but to say that Hunter is being
targeted for harsher treatment because he's Joe Biden's son, this
is Bonker's level insane. I mean, this is like saying
Anthony Fauci was way too lax about COVID measures and
was way too individualistic and letting people approach it like
(07:50):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Even know what to say. But for some people this
will work.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
The problem is, in our mass media environment, the most
aggressive lies are many times the most effective.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Well, and this is why I would be encouraging every
Republican out there to be hammering when are the charges
coming on tax evasion?
Speaker 1 (08:10):
That's what has.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
To happen, right, because and by the way, they really
I think should try and charge for what they let
expire in fifteen and sixteen. That's also indefensible that they
just let that statute of limitations run out and now
they can only get him on I think it's seventeen
and eighteen calendar years for not paying his taxes. Those
(08:33):
charges need to be filed immediately. You can amend the
pleating as necessary. You've had five years to get them ready.
Right now, I think it's fair to ask, not did
Hunter Biden get treated unfairly? But are they still charging
him with the absolute lowest amount of public charges that
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they could because a lot of times these charges will
get pled down to a misdemeanor. Again, to your point, Buck, certainly,
I don't understand why Hunter would be stressed out that
much about this, because if your dad has to get
out of jail free card, what the worst case scenario
is he has to play it.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
I'll tell you what I think, because this came up
in the last twenty four hours. What I think the
problem is here for Hunter is the Biden brand is
becoming less valuable, and he's worried about them. He's worried
about them, so it's about the money. He's worried about
the millions that he's going to pay. I don't know
if this will cost to millions, but certainly hundreds of thousands.
(09:37):
No question that he would have to pay for a
legal defense here, even if he was just going to
extend and you know, lawyer it up do all that stuff.
And I think that he's also recognizing his ability to
make millions of dollars for doing nothing going forward is
effectively destroyed because at this point you would have to
(09:58):
be truly insane, unless you were, like again, some foreigner
who doesn't care about US law is like a Chinese
Communist Party member, But you would have to be insane
to want to do any business with Hunter Biden based on.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Pop has access.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Are you suggesting that his painting career is not going
to be as successful when his dad's not in the
White House?
Speaker 4 (10:18):
Oh, I don't know. I haven't have you to be fair,
have you have you seen the paintings. I have seen
the paintings.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
I mean I thought the craziest thing to me about
the paintings take leaving aside the fact that people are
paying tens of thousands of dollars for them, is that.
I believe I'm correct in this as part of the
settlement with the daughter that the Bidens would not acknowledge,
they actually gave her some of the paintings. Did you
see this like that that's how he's paying part of
(10:44):
his child, you know, paternity responsibilities. That seems like a
really poor negotiation tactic by her magic to get.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
You know, you show up like a Maserati dealership and
they're like, hey, this is gonna cost you one hundred
and forty great answer sign here, and you're like, no, no,
I don't have money.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
What I do have is this amazing finger painting for you.
The article.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
The article when they wrote about the plea agreement collapsing
in New York Times, they said that there were so
many details in it that were just ridiculous. But Hunter's
attorney traveled all the way across the country to discuss
this latest twist and turn in the case with Hunter
in his painting studio, and I'm just like, come on,
(11:32):
Hunter is sitting in his painting suffer as a lawyer
doesn't need to travel all the way across the country
to have a conversation with him, right, Like, you can
call somebody on a phone, but then he's in the
studio with.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Like a paint, you know, like brush, Like he's like
he's Vincent Vengo or something.
Speaker 4 (11:46):
To show up to all of his Like if he
does end up going to trial, which I don't even
think what happened, but he should definitely show up in
like a beret and the smock and be like, I am.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Sorry, I am an artist. I forget about ZiT Texas.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
You know, Like what if he did his own room sketches,
like while sitting at the defendant stand and sold them.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Like that, that would be I don't know if that's permissible.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
He's like super handsome, and the judge really remember they
remember when Tom Brady was in the courtroom, and like
they had the most disgusting painting.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Uh, like a sketch of Tom Brady. Do you remember
the ugly Brady's.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
I don't know what tom Brady did to that guy's
girlfriend back in the day, but the guy, like Tom
Brady is an incredibly good looking man, and he made
him look like you know, Frankenstein in that picture. But
I just like the idea of Hunter like sitting at
the defendant table, you know, like sketching away. Uh, and
then you know, signing him and uh and and selling
them on the on the I mean, is there is
(12:44):
there a more pathetic thing to have done than purchased
Hunter Biden's artwork.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
Well, it depends on who you are, right, if you're
somebody that realizes you're purchasing the paintings because it's a
way to pay off Hunter to try to get the
Oh I get that.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
But like if you act actually hung it up in
your house and somebody walked in there, like who's that? Like,
that's a Hunter Biden like someone to do that. If
if you and.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
And I hope Laura is listening, if you bought and
hung up a Hunter Biden painting in your home, it
would be an amazing conversation piece. Like everybody you had
over and you have to do a funny idea. Yeah,
Like you'd have to do it like they have at
the Metropolitan Museum of Art, like you know, plexiglass, maybe
a light above it, and you could play some some
Vivaldi quietly in the background.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
That's how you got to do it.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
A Hunter Biden original would actually be hysterical to put
in my house. I would actually, I mean, it would
be amazing It's like, you know, some people who are
really successful, they put up paintings of themselves, which is like,
I mean, it seems a little bit cocky to have
a painting of yourself in your own house, Like.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Yeah, we know who you are at your house.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
There you are in the wall too, But an original
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revealed in Mexico quote an unsubstantiated stunt. The two allegedly
non human specimens became social media spectacle after they were
presented in front of the Mexican legislature. So, missus, way, Travis,
are are you? Are you persuaded here by the UFO
(15:29):
experts saying that this was a unlike the usual UFO
presentations to Congress fair, this one was meant as a
stunt for attention.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
I'll just point out it's not a coincidence that the
former CIA guy comes in here and just keeps throwing
cold water on clear alien invasions that are are taking
place on a regular basis. Did you see this, by
the way, that is funny that the alien people are fighting.
Speaker 4 (15:59):
Yeah, guys are like, let's let's not talk crazy talk
here those us.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
It's just never good when the UFO guys like that.
Uf I go a UFOU likely if you're like the.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
Most renowned bigfoot hunter and you're like, excuse me, excuse me,
this bigfoot footage is just unacceptable to present.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
But going.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
I saw this headline and I thought, you know what,
I kind of respect the call here that this guy
has made.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Let me pull it up.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
One of the former athletes, our current athlete came out
and said that not only did he believe that aliens
had come to Earth, he said that he believed that
aliens were actually walking among us and in hiding.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Yeah, here it is.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Not only does Panthers running back Miles Sanders believe aliens exist,
he's convinced they're already on Earth swapping places with human hosts.
Now that my friend is a call like he's not
tiptoeing up. I think that aliens have been here or
before this. This NFL running back is like, no, no, no,
aliens are here and they're shape shifting and they're constantly
(17:08):
moving among us. Now that that is a prediction.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
To be to be out there, that's that would be
a new one. I mean, that's that's bold these.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
You know what I will say about the Mexican UFO aliens.
Speaker 4 (17:23):
Excuse me, the corpses of actual aliens, not even corpses.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Yeah yeah, sorry, corpses of aliens.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
It seems unlikely to me that the corpses of aliens
would look like Yoda and uh and uh.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Et it looked like et.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Yeah, Yoda. One of them looked like Yoda and the
other one looked like et. What are the odds that
alien life actually looks like we thought alien life would look.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
If you want to tell me that there's alien life,
go read like Andromeda Strain Michael Crichton back in the day,
something that you know is in a peatrie dish. Tell
me that's an alien. First, we'll talk about that. There's
a rumor out of Washington, DC, says the CIA guy,
that our currency system may change in the coming years,
with an announcement that could even happen this year. If
you ask former Wall Street insider and digital currency expert
(18:13):
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Speaker 1 (18:35):
Look. Wall Street Journal has written earlier this year.
Speaker 4 (18:37):
That central bank digital currencies, digital currencies in general, they're coming,
just a question of when and which countries adopt them first.
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Speaker 2 (18:53):
Getting Klay, Travis buck Sexton, show Hunter Biden indictment dues
came down. We continue to break down the latest on that.
But also Trump has done a couple of interviews and
we wanted to play some cuts from Megan Kelly and
also NBC. So let's start here. This is not so,
(19:15):
there's both good and bad. In the Megan Kelly interview,
here is bad. Trump says he doesn't know who gave
Anthony Fauci a presidential commendation while he was president. Yeah,
you're the president. It's a presidential commendation. Here's cut nine.
Speaker 6 (19:30):
The truth is, though, not only did you not fire Fauci,
who was loathed by many many millions of Republicans in particular,
but also some Democrats. By the way, you made him
a star. You made him a star. This is the
criticism of you, that you made him the face of
the White House coronavirus, that he was added every presser,
that he was running heard for the administration on COVID.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
And that you actually.
Speaker 6 (19:49):
Give him a presidential commendation before you left office.
Speaker 7 (19:52):
Wouldn't you like a duel over on that. I don't
know who gave him the commendation. I really don't know
who gave him the commendation.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Wedation. Yeah, but people, people that are voting Trump, you know,
they're not gonna care at all.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
So it is I think this would be my advice
to Trump on COVID. And I'm gonna play another cut.
And Gavin Newsome, my buddy with the French laundry, basically
came out and said, we got a lot wrong and
we didn't know any better.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Now it's all.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
It's all that we did the best we could with
what we knew then, which is the but he admits
they got stuff wrong, yes, now.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
And so that's where I think, like cut eleven here, Well,
let's play ten and eleven.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Just let you listen to it. So cut eleven.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Is Trump being asked if he has any COVID regrets
with Megan Kelly.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Here's what he said, Operation.
Speaker 6 (20:46):
Warp speed though. That was on the vaccines. They were
rushed through. They have helped but also hurt a lot
of people. And your White House actually supported mask mandates.
So wouldn't you like a do over on any of that.
Speaker 7 (20:57):
Look, when this came in, nobody knew what the hell was.
It sounded like an ancient you know, a pandemic. You
thought that was from two hundred years ago or from
nineteen seventeen. We never thought you'd have a pandemic. Nobody
had any idea. We got word that bad things were
happening in China right around the Wuhan Clinic. And I
was the one that said it was in the Wuhan clinic,
and I stuck with it and it was. It was
(21:18):
absolutely it came out of the Wuhan Clinic. But you
take a look, and what we did was this was
brand new. Nobody knew what the hell it was. This dust.
Somebody said, there's dust coming in from China and it's
killing people in Italy, and it's killing people in France,
and it's going to kill people here. And by the way,
I shut it down to China. That was a big move.
(21:39):
I say thousands, hundreds of thousands of lives by doing it.
But honestly, I don't blame a lot of people because
nobody knew what it was. Now we do understand it somewhat,
nobody really understands it even now.
Speaker 4 (21:52):
So what part look the falls of Trump. Trump doesn't
Trump doesn't do apologies, he doesn't do regrets. That's where
we got' that's the situation with COVID. People can either
like that or not like it, but that's the situation,
all right. And then this is the attack that has
actually worked, right. Trump has slammed Ron DeSantis and I
(22:13):
didn't think this was gonna work. He said he wasn't
actually good on COVID, and he keeps saying it, and
it is evidently landed here he said it again. Here's
cut ten with Megan Kelly. These were all part of
the interview. Trump says Desantos was bad on COVID.
Speaker 7 (22:27):
I was not a big fan of Fauci. If you
look at Ronda sanctimonious he was. This guy said the
greatest things I can give you articles that Fauci's great,
He's wonderful. We love him. We don't do anything without Fauci.
This one on for months.
Speaker 6 (22:40):
He didn't listen to Fauci.
Speaker 7 (22:41):
He did one hundred percent. Look he's shut down fot
I will give you. He shut down Florida for a month. Oh,
he's shut it down for a lot long. He shut
down the beaches, he shut down the roads, he shut
down the hospital. He was shutting down everything. He also
had long lines of people getting the jab, as he
called it. Let's all go get the jab. The guy
tried to change history in Florida. Now, eventually Florida was open.
(23:03):
But a lot of these other governors didn't shut down
at all. South Dakota didn't shut down McMaster. South Carolina
didn't shut down Tennessee. There are states that didn't shut
down at all. They probably did the best job.
Speaker 6 (23:14):
But Ron DeSantis was under a lot of pressure, especially
given the population, the age of a lot of Florida's citizens.
Speaker 7 (23:21):
I'm not trying to blame anybody, but he should say
I closed it down. Eventually, we opened it, but I
closed it down. But I gave him the right to
keep it open if he wanted to. I let the
governors make the determination as to whether or not to
close it down.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
Okay, where where do you want to start with that one?
I mean, first of all, he was the first. He's
the first. And this isn't about Desanta's for president, by
the way, just to be clear, I mean Trump Trump
is clearly going to be the nominee. So I just
think it would be helpful if we would maybe steer
the conversation in the direction of factual accuracy because he's
going to face a Democrat on this, and he's going
to have to explain to independent voters what he did
(23:57):
in a general election. So, I mean, there's just a
lot of stuff there. I'm confused. Ron DeSantis said people
waiting for shots. Trump loves the shots. He says he
saved hundreds of millions of In the same interview, he
said he saved hundreds of millions of lives with the shots,
or one hundred million lives with the shots.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
So the shots good to the shots bad.
Speaker 4 (24:13):
I mean, we could sit here all day, but at
this point, people are gonna believe what they're.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Gonna believe about this situation.
Speaker 4 (24:19):
I was in New York, I was in Florida throughout
the entirety of the pandemic and the lockdowns. The notion
that Florida was similar to New York, or that Florida
wasn't better than every other country in I'm sorry, every
other state in the country. I mean maybe one or
two other places you put in a similar category, but
with far less population of population density, which matters. It's
(24:39):
just not a reflection of reality. But again, Clay, does
anyone care. I don't think anyone care. This is we're
kind of at the point where like people don't care. So, okay, fine,
you know, doesn't what actually happened doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
We're at four months from the official Iowa caucus.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
Vote and he's up like a million points and he's
gonna be the nominees.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
So like, people don't care. Okay, that's where we are.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
I will point this out, and I do think this
is important. They're trying to get more COVID shots, and
you heard us talk with Alex Berenson about this earlier
in the week, and Alex Berenson, I think he said
that he would not get his kids the COVID shot
would be over his dead body.
Speaker 4 (25:17):
I think was his exact quote. He's been dropping f
bombs on Twitter over fire. He's very upset about it. Yes,
he's very upset. But I will say I haven't seen
anybody else. Tell me if I'm wrong on this, Buck,
But Latipoe, who is the Surgeon General of Florida. Doctor
Latipoe and the Santis and their.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Team have actually said basically, no one under the age
of sixty five should get these shots. Have you seen
any other Republican governor saying that, because I think it
was the right.
Speaker 4 (25:48):
In fact, and this is a discussion that we had
a long time ago on this show. I believe the
only state of like I mean to let me know
if I'm wrong about Texas or Tennessee. But Florida doesn't
allow allow mask man mandates, doesn't allow vaccine mandates. Not
It leaves it to like individual entities or no. No,
cannot do it, cannot mandate these things. And not every state,
(26:11):
including I mean I'm talking about Republican states now, have
done that, and I think.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
They all should do that.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
Others were more willing to bend to corporate interest perhaps
on whether they're going to allow like the major health
system in their state to determine mask or vaccine policies.
That's a thing that people might want to look into.
And some of the states that are talked about as
having done a good job on this, But I you know,
I don't know, man, It's why is it so hard
to just say that we we you know there, we
(26:37):
made some mistakes. We did things the best we could
at the time. I would have done this and that
differently and going forward, I'll nail it all and get
it all right.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (26:46):
I don't know why that's that wouldn't cost nothing. It
would cost nothing.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
But we're not.
Speaker 4 (26:50):
It's not going to happen. So I mean, and people
are going to call in probably then be mad at me,
like why are you saying Trump's gonna be the nominee.
We're back Trump one hundred percent. Trump's you know, we're
all we all get the reality here that's going on.
You know, God bless him. Is just said yesterday, I
think he's gonna be able to defeat Biden and go
the distance and do the whole thing. I just wish
on this issue he would just be like, guys, I
love you all. We made a couple of mistakes. Florida
(27:11):
actually did some good stuff. I'm gonna be your guy
going forward. I've learned all the lessons. But that's not him,
and he's Trump and I'm not. And that's the end
of it.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
I would like for Trump to say Fauci was a mistake,
because he's pointed out when he's made other mistakes in
terms of the people that worked in the White House
and surrounded him, and.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
He ended up firing ignominiously most of his major appointments
to the White House over the course of his four years.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
Yes, so why not say Fauci deserves to be in prison?
And as this virus evolved, what Fauci was saying in
front of Congress, those were lies and I think there
should be consequences.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
For him for the lies that he told. Look, guy's
supposed to be fair about this.
Speaker 4 (28:01):
I mean, Trump doesn't have to say it because the
party has decided that Trump is the nominee even without
him saying and that. I think that's how he views it.
So why, Oh, it's what differences of me?
Speaker 1 (28:11):
You know what I mean? Like, it's just Trump.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
Trump's bare knuckle approach is like, why should I have
to say, Oh, I made a mistake. Republican parties behind
me sixty percent ahead of my nearest rival. So if
I'm gonna do a little bit of creative writing, I'm
doing a little creative writing. It'll be great against Biden.
It'll help me win. I think that's the attitude. I
really just think that it doesn't even the historical, Like
we could sit here and play clips for anybody who
wanted to hear it of like what he said about
(28:34):
the Destantis I'm talking about DeSantis as governor, DeSantis as
a candidate right now, Well what he said about DeSantis
on the COVID lockdowns, and it would completely contradict everything
he just told Megan Kelly.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
And people don't care. So it's fine, you know, it comes.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Back to unfortunately, I think, and look, Trump was far
better than most Democrats by far on COVID. But it
feels on some level buck like a lot of people
just want to pretend COVID never happened, yep, and want to.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
Move past it entirely.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
I think that's true too, And there's not going to
be any consequences in any direction for any decision that
was made during COVID. Look, if if that you know,
that's the attitude, and it ends up being successful in
twenty twenty four and we get back a Trump economy
and a Trump border and an America First movement that
is united great, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
Like, that's if it works.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
This is the promise of this all is that it's
going to work, and we're going to be successful, and
we're going to put the country back on the right track.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
So I don't want to get bogged down in.
Speaker 4 (29:36):
You know, undermining or dealing because really, at this point, Clay,
we're talking about it's not technically true yet, but you've
already said it. He's our guy. He's I said July
the guy in the race for us. That's the way
it's going to go.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
I said July seventeenth that I thought it was over,
and meaning looking at the polling, looking at everything else.
It is now, you know, September fifteenth, two months since then,
if anything, the Trump position has strengthened. So I have
not seen any suggestion that anyone else.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
Is going to be able to be the nominee. I mean,
I just haven't.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
I mean, and if there had been some form of weakening,
we just saw the Fox News poll came out last night,
and it showed that Trump now has a sixty to
thirteen lead over second place, I mean a forty seven
point lead in the Fox News poll, and in April
(30:35):
he had a thirty two point lead, in February had
a fifteen point lead.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
This is why we have primaries.
Speaker 4 (30:40):
The Republican the Republican faithful have not officially spoken yet,
but they have indicated very clearly how they feel about this.
And so when we look at what look, Meghan did
a great job. Just to be clear, Meghan I think
did a really good interview. I listened to it. It
was really interesting, and Trump also covered a lot of
ground where you're just saying, like, this is how he
became the play phenomenon he is. And a focused Trump
(31:02):
that brings back the best ideas or continues on with
the best ideas is formidable against Biden.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
I think can beat Biden.
Speaker 4 (31:10):
But you know, on these core issues about I shouldn't
say core issues, but on these remaining issues about COVID,
I mean, he tells everybody the SHOT's amazing and saved
one hundred million lives. And if I tell anybody right
now who is all in on Trump, that that's not
really an accurate reflection of what happened with the shot.
They get very angry at me. And I need those people.
We all need those people. We all need to be
on the same team. We need to help Trump get elected.
(31:31):
So I feel like at some point you just say, Okay,
I mean, he's imperfect.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
He is an.
Speaker 4 (31:36):
Imperfect brawler, but a brawler nonetheless, and we're going He's
who we're going into battle with on our side, So
that's how we're going to go. I do think Biden's
weakness has turned the Republican primary away from a discussion
about electability because I think Biden's so weak that.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
Trump can win this election full stop. Trump can win
this election.
Speaker 4 (32:00):
That is true, and that is real, and that's why
I at this point, I feel like I get it
when people are like, why, you know, I don't like
when Republicans are piling on Republicans in a way that's
truly damaging.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
And at this point, it's like, if he's going to be.
Speaker 4 (32:12):
The guy, and it looks like he is, we got
all we got to all be ready to go to
battle with the communists on this stuff, and.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
I think it'll be decided.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Honestly, what are we one hundred and twenty days less
than that thirty sixty ninety and one to twenty basically
from the first votes being cast in Iowa. If Trump
wins Iowa, this thing's over one hundred and twenty days. Still,
you know, a lot can happen in one hundred and
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Speaker 4 (34:03):
I think people want to talk about the Trump responses
in the interview because they do because they're inundating us
right now, let's do it. James in Johnson City, Tennessee.
First up here, James, what's up, hey.
Speaker 8 (34:17):
Guys, how you doing? You got a rush baby here?
Appreciate you taking the call. I just wanted to make
a comment on the clip you played at Trump just
a little bit ago. He is totally trying to take
the heat off of him and his handling of COVID.
I love Trump to death. I hope he wins the election.
Loved him as president, but the way he handled COVID
(34:39):
was his biggest.
Speaker 9 (34:40):
Blunder as president.
Speaker 8 (34:42):
And I feel like he's trying to put the heat
on others because of his handling of it.
Speaker 4 (34:48):
So, James, I appreciate that. I mean, I've said it before.
I'm not changing my tune on this one. I mean,
I think Ron DeSantis as a governor was the best
in the entire country by far.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
It's not even close.
Speaker 4 (34:59):
So to say that he did a bad job on COVID,
I don't know what people want, you know, I don't
know what anyone expects all of a sudden, it's, oh, yeah,
he was actually bad on it. Brian in Ohio, Brian,
what's up?
Speaker 5 (35:10):
Hey?
Speaker 9 (35:10):
Thank you very much. First of all, I had twenty years
in healthcare safety and infection control, and I wanted to
say President Trump was in a precarious rock and hard
places election wise. If he had if he had bucked
the system, and he was wrong. He would never had
a chance to be even elected at all. He had
(35:31):
no choice but to go along with the party with
the CDC line. I have no respect for Founci, pretty
much considering worse than Joseph Mangela myself. And anyway, Trump
didn't have a didn't have an opportunity.
Speaker 4 (35:46):
Well, well, Trump went along with the CDC recommendations for
a long time, and he is not currently the president,
so I don't know if the he couldn't have because
he would have lost is necessarily the analysis that I
would go with. Go ahead, Lake, I just think I
think it would have been interesting.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
If you can go back in time, I think Trump
would have won if he had gone balls to the
wall on every school has to be open. I think
so and so in August and September of twenty twenty
now he said school should be open. But I think
if he had made that the focal point of his pitch,
I think he would have won women.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
I think he would have won.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
Moms who were furious and fed up with the fact
that their kids were out of school. And importantly, he'd
have been one hundred percent right because the legacy that
we are going to see from all those kids who
got shut out of school, the poorest among them suffered
the most, is going to be with us for generations
to come.
Speaker 4 (36:40):
I think it's important as just a general principle. It
is possible to think someone is overall great and fantastic
and support them, but not approve of literally one hundred
percent of everything they've ever done.
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