May 22, 2023 • 36 mins
A Rocky IV primary will make the GOP nominee stronger. NAACP issues ridiculous travel warning for DeSantis' Florida. FBI harasses pro-life activists, but covered up for Epstein. Was he an asset for U.S. government or foreign governments? Epstein blackmailed Bill Gates. Bud Light collapse continues, local distributor takes out ad blasting Anheuser-Busch. Target sells women's bathing suits with a pouch to hide penis. NAACP president blasts Florida, but lives in Tampa.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast age now number two Clay Travis Buck
Sexton Show. We are having a big discussion as we
get Tim Scott South Carolina senator official entry into the
twenty twenty four Republican primary race, and the expectation is
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that Ron DeSantis, according to reports last week, we'll be
announcing this week and we will officially have close to
a full field. Now, maybe Mike Pence is going to enter. Buck,
Are you with me that you see no pathway to
the nomination for anyone other than right now, Donald Trump
or Ron DeSantis? Like the Mike Pences of the world,
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the Tim Scotts of the world, the Chris Christy if
he were to enter the So New News, like Nicky
Hayley's Vivid Ramaswami. They're all just getting attention and running
four potential cabinet posts, but they have no chance to
really win the nomination.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Yes, I think that's certainly true, But I also think
that having a having a robust primary, I like this.
I keep going back to I'm obsessed with the UH
with Rocky four and then the training montage, you know
where he's like in the in the snow in Siberia.
It's like that made him a better fighter to go
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up against Ivan Drago And I just think that you
want a primary with a lot of different voices if
you can have one who are taking different positions. Now,
my problem with what we're seeing right now in this
primary is that it really feels like a two man
race with other people involved who are starting to stack
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the deck for one of the two candidates a little bit. Right, So,
Vivek doesn't attack Trump. He only attacked Ramaswami. I think
Tim Scott. I don't think Tim Scott's gonna do a
lot of attacking. And I think he's going to just
be talking about his story, his policy. That's my guess,
just based on the kind of guy he is. But
he's not going to be you know, he's not gonna
be throwing throwing right crosses verbally at in Trump's direction.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
So it feels a little weird right now.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
I would rather have people who are all at least
running to get as much of a share of the
vote as they could, instead of immediately from day one,
some of them seeming to angle toward Donald Trump right away.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
You know, do you see what I mean.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
It's if you have eight guys in who are all
or and gals who are all just trying to throw
punches on that stage, so to speak, and want the
biggest percentage they can get. Great, you know, let's see
how that melee shakes out. Good for politics, good for
the Republican Party. If you've got seven guys who are
all basically on the same team and one guy who's
the only other person who could possibly win, that feels
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a little strange to me. That's not really that's not
really the training montage we want here for whoever the
candidate's going to be, And I mean if it's Trump,
I just want Trump to go through the best gauntlet
possible to hone everything about him so that he's the
best candidate he can be. We'll see how this shakes out.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Yeah. Look, the electorate, so far as I can tell,
breaks out with about twenty five percent of people in
the Trump no one else. Right, I'm talking about the
Republican primary electorate. Twenty five percent of you listening to
us right now are die hard Trump no one else.
About twenty five percent are There's no way I'll support
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Donald Trump, right, So those two like are the extremes.
And then I would say there's fifty percent of you
that are open to being persuaded to vote for a
variety of candidates. The Trump twenty five percent is going
to be with him no matter what. Trump was right
when he said back in the day, I could be
on Fifth Avenue, I could pull a gun out. There's
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about twenty five percent of American population that if Donald
Trump doesn't matter what he does, they're with him, right,
and that is in the republic primary. They're his base.
That group's not going to leave Trump. So the more
candidates there are, there's twenty five percent who are anti
Trump that's going to get broken up into a variety
of different people. And then there's fifty percent who are persuadable.
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If I'm Trump, I want as big of a field
as possible. I want there to be twenty people running
for the Republican nomination again, because I want all of
the anti Trump vote to be broken down to as
small as contingents as possible, as opposed to all rushing
to DeSantis or Nikki Haley or Tim Scott or whoever
the candidate is, that we're able to mobilize those so
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that is the sort of big picture as we wait
for the DeSantis announcement again Tim Scott announcing within the
last hour or so. But I want to mention this
buck because over the weekend, and I'm reading from a
CNN headline, the NAACP issued a travel advisory for Florida
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saying the state vote is openly hostile toward African Americans
under Governor DeSantis' administration. This is one of the most
dishonest things that I have seen a large institution do.
And it raises the question. And I saw you put
up a poll about this recently. You gave like four
different agencies and said which one of these I think
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do you trust the most? It would get we get
rid of Yes. My question for you is a is
a somewhat similar version of that. So, first of all,
if you live in Florida and you're black, the state
of Florida is not a threat to you, and overwhelmingly
everyone knows that. It's why Florida is adding hundreds of
thousands of new residents in the past couple of years,
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many of them white, black, Hispanic Asian, Like, Florida's got
your back no matter what your race is, Right, That's
why so many people are moving there. Certainly Florida is
setting all time records for vacationers. If you're taking your
family to Disney World and you're a black mom and dad,
you aren't thinking to yourself, oh my goodness, we're under
such peril. If you're you know, single, and you're going
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down to Miami for a fun weekend with your guys
or with your girls, you're not thinking, oh my goodness,
if we go out to this nightclub, there's no telling
if we're going to come out alive. Right Like, the
state of Florida is not doing any putting it in
under any peril at all. But Buck, when I see
all these stories, and I had this conversation with my
wife over the weekend, how many big institutions do you
(06:27):
trust right now? Very very few? Because even like if
you even had to name one or two that you trust,
can be media, can be governmental. I don't know that
there's ever been a point in time where I've trusted
big institutions less than right now we are.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
We are as a society increasingly atomized. In fact, Hannah Errand,
in her Origins of Totalitarianism, which is a book that
I would recommend if someone wants to understand our current
moment a little bit better.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
It's a little bit eye.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Opening and upsetting when you start to see some of
the parallels with totalitarianism past and present. But out of
my subjects are people who are disconnected from the rest
of the broader society and feel like they cannot trust
any of the institutions of the society. So they will
latch on to things very easily and and they're much
(07:27):
more likely to be able to be mobilized to a
certain you know, in a certain way. When I look
at the institutions to your question, I feel increasing like
a lot of Americans think that they are in a
place where they can't trust things like the now you see,
it's difficult because there's always tears and there's nuance, right.
You have the FBI, by the way, the UH I
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think the FBI. Gosh, I can't remember my own poll
it was it.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Was CDC FB.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
CDC for me is the most disappointing, meaning like, I'm
more disappointed in the CDC one the I R S one,
which I understand because as everyone sees the what is
it now, almost six million illegal migrants coming into this
country getting free stuff from the taxpayer, all in violate
their presence, is a violation of US law. People can
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play all these games about how oh, but they're one
day get a hearing or something.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
The whole thing is a scam.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
If you don't pay your taxes, someone is going to
come and arrest you eventually, right if you don't show
up in court, If you don't pay your taxes, people
with guns from the government are going to come and arrestue.
So there's a lack of trust in all institutions that
rely on law. I R S, DJ, Intel community go
down the list because of the politicization that we've all
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seen at the top level. And I think that when
you start to add into this what we've seen with
the media. I mean, if someone believes that's that you know,
CNN is you know, an honest broker, they're basically a
cult member. I mean they they are incapable of looking
at data honestly and understanding what we not just date
of but history, but narrative story and seeing what's really
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going on. So we are at a point in time
where the left has infiltrated all these institutions. And I
always say the left is an invasive species. You don't
have to have leftists top to bottom and institution. Usually
they come in through the HR department, that's step number one,
and then they start to push more and more the
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C suite, and they push more and more on the
hiring and all before you know it, you have this
replication machine of left wing licy. Look, I'm gonna talk
about bud light. Look at bud light for example, bud light.
Do I feel badly for the guys who are trying
to deliver bud light now who're driving. Yeah, it sucks
for them, It's not fair for them. But do I
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also understand there's a broader You know, if you're in
a battle political, cultural, or otherwise, there's going to be
there is going to be some collateral damage. There are
going to be people. I think we should do more
to help the people who are being caught up in
this on the bud lights. But you've got to make
a stand. You've got to tell people.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Enough is enough.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
And and I think that you know, when you have
health clay like the CDs, so there was a CDC,
I R S FBI. When you can't trust the federal
health agency, who can you trust?
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (10:17):
And you know when you can't trust the the FBI.
You know, recently, did you see that video where they
were looking for a pro life activist. I shared this
and I'm I'm I don't remember all the details. I'll
look it up in a second, but as a pro
life activist. People were joking around that they thought these
two FBI agents were like, you know Pilate's instructors.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
There were you know, youngish.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Women, and they were like, hey, like, we're just here
to talk to you and chat. We're looking for you know,
your daughter who's a pro life but we're just we
just want to have a conversation. Trying to be very
nonchalant about it. The FBI is showing up looking for
some pro life active Like, what's really going on here?
What is the Merrick Garland DOJ willing to do to
pro life activists? We all know we've started to see that. Meanwhile,
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the Epstein thing, So you know, Clay, I told you
about this. I did the Sean Ryan Show recently, which
was a phenomenal podcast. We talked about Epstein. People didn't
believe until they checked, Like they were writing like I
didn't know that was true, but Epstein, do you know
that when the FBI in twenty nineteen went to Epstein's home,
and we just heard the Bill Gates. Epstein was blackmailing
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Bill Gates, not for an underage sexual you know, it
was for cheating on his wife, so that it is
a very different legal thing. But he was blackmailing him.
That's what came out in the Wall Street Journal. The
FBI went to epste for the whole thing, right, institutions,
can we trust them? They go to Epstein's eighty million
dollar townhouse in twenty nineteen, which he was given. Right,
(11:46):
I mean, you're a generous guy, but you're not giving
me an eighty million dollars townhouse any soon.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
I don't think like that's that's a lot, right, That's
it was a Victorian secret founder, Wexner who gave him
that townhouse, basically, right, that's right. And the f shows
up there, and what do they find? Everybody? What is
the big missing.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Piece and all the Epstein stuff? Who's being blackmailed? Who
are the targets of these blackmail operations? Who is he
recording in all of these massage parlors he had set
up in his homes with the cameras and everything else.
Somehow we've never heard of any of this, right, I
should say we've never seen any of this. The FBI
shows up in twenty nineteen, finds tapes, video tapes with
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things like you know, girl, so and so like names
on them.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
You know what the FBI does everybody?
Speaker 2 (12:37):
They call into headquarters and they say, hey, yeah, we
don't have a warrant to take this stuff.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
We can't.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Actually we have a search warrant, but we can't take
the things that we're searching for. The FBI leaves. This
is a matter of public record. This came out in
court during Giele and Maxwell's trial. The FBI leaves, and
they leave behind the tapes. Guess what happens a couple
of days later. Three days later, not in a big rush,
apparently the FBI, the FBI that goes to check on
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pro life activists, they come back and they say the
tapes are gone. Oh, the tapes are gone. And then
they reach out to Epstein's estate he obviously was dead
at this point, attorney, and they say, hey, what happened
to those tapes. The attorney goes, oh, I have them,
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and the FBI says, hey, could you bring those over
to us? Just make sure you bring all of them, okay,
and that is how that went down.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Do you trust the FBI? Everybody?
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Does anyone out there? Does any law enforcement officer want
to try to explain to.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Me how that one went down? Oh? I think and
this has been my theory for a while. I think
Epstein the reason why he was able to avoid jail
for so long was he was an asset, Yes, either
our government, maybe also foreign government. I think he was
a foreign government asset working inside the US institutions that
he could, but yes, and then he had all of
(14:04):
this blackmailable data. Right. You know, you're showing up and
you're getting a massage from a sixteen year old and
you're in It wasn't a massage as we know, right yeah, right,
massage in quotation marks, but it's videoed. You are in
a position of incredible prominence. And my theory is that
he was blackmailing many of the super powerful individuals and
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also sharing some of that blackmail information with some of
these governments. They had the goods on a lot of
different people, and that's that, to me, explains much of
what happened with Epstein. That's my theory. Obviously, we don't
know for sure, but that what you're laying out would
tie in that would help to make sense of it.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
I one hundred percent agree with your theory. I would
just add to this though, or remind everybody Clay I
laid out for you, and I'm pretty precise on the
facts here. I mean, there might be one ering, but
FBI shows up, finds the tapes and leaves without the
tapes because it wasn't in the search what were they
searching for And they couldn't leave somebody there to figure
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out whether or not the tapes are at you know,
they couldn't like monitor the house to make sure somebody
to the lawyer gets them.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
The FBI has to call the lawyer and say, hey,
can you bring us the blackmail tapes that you have?
And what was on those tapes? No answers, And how
does Maxwell end up the only person that's charged alongside
of Epstein who conveniently commits suicide, right, I mean, I'm
just saying none of it adds up, And honestly, this
is a great example of where the media doesn't follow up.
(15:32):
And I would just say it's probably because a lot
of the people that are in positions of power associated
with the media are either caught up in this thing
or their friends are caught up in this thing. It
is a sordid, nasty mess. But by the way, on
the NAACP thing, what about buck the fact that it
comes out a couple of days before Desantus is announcing
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Speaker 2 (17:23):
All right, welcome back to Clay and Buck. We've got
a lot that's coming your way here. In a moment, Clay,
I think we should talk a little bit about how
upset the left has become in recent days over DeSantis
stopping the trans surgeries on kids in Florida. You cannot
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do this in Florida anymore. The left is absolutely apoplectic
over that. They're freaking out over it. And we have
more on bud Light and I'll talk to you about
Mayor Eric Adams in the third hour and what he's
saying about how to down crime and also what do
about the migrant flow. So that's all coming up.
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I shared this link yesterday. I'd encourage you guys to
go read it, especially if you work in a business
(19:09):
that is bon woke because there's a front page article
in the Monday edition of the Wall Street Journal that
dives in great detail into the collapse of bud Light
in the wake of their decision to put a trans
influencer on a beer can as a part of a
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March Madness promotion. And initially when people said, hey, we're
going to fight back against this, there was ridicule. There
was the belief nothing would happen. And in the chart
that is included in the bud Light article in the
Wall Street Journal, Buck, you can see that in the
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first week of May, bud light consumption in this country
is down twenty eight percent, and every week it keeps
getting worse. And you remember first weekend in May. This
is when I did my experiment, and you were here
with me in the Nashville area. We were at a
musical event and no one would take a bud light.
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And what I am seeing when I am out and
about when I am in a bar, when I'm in
a restaurant, I'll ask, I'll say, hey, how's bud light selling,
And by and large the servers will say nobody's ordering it. Now.
I live in the Nashville area Red state of Tennessee,
so I'm not saying that everything that I'm experiencing is representative,
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but when it's down twenty eight percent nationwide, and now
it's starting to filter over to Mick Ultra and to
Budweiser itself, and Budweiser is deciding that they're going to
have red, white, and blue cans, and they're going to
have a Harley Davidson edition, and they're going to have
a camouflage edition. They are desperately backpedaling over the fact
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that they insulted the consumer base by and large of
bud Light, not just with that ad buck, but also
with their director of marketing saying, yeah, we didn't really
like the people who were drinking bud Light. It was
too frauty, There was out of touch humor, and people
are saying, well, wait a minute. You know, relatively speaking,
there's not that much difference between bud Light Coors Light,
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and let's say Miller Lte And I understand some of
our audience fervently disagrees with me on this buck, but
I will go to the grave that if you were
having nachos or you're having a hot dog at a
ball game, that you just drinking out of a cup
cannot distinguish between the taste of those three and so
this is now the most success successful pushback we have
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ever seen on any brand for going woke and directly
undercutting their business. And I believe we have audio. It's
important for you to realize, and you mentioned this in
the first hour of the show. I think Buck, a
lot of employees' way he's out there, are not in
support of what bud Light did, and a lot of
distributors are not in support because the way that Budweiser
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is distributed is with different regional outposts all over the
country and one of the distributors down in Alabama, he
was fed up. Buck. Listen to the ad that he
took out directly to attack what his company did.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
Listen, There's been a lot of discussion, frustration, and even
anger across the country regarding just one single can made
a bud Light that was produced for a social media influencer.
We too, at VAMA Budwiser, said about it and have
made our feelings known to the top leadership at ANHUSE. Course,
we do not, and as I said before, did not
support this issue involving Dylan mulvaney. There was one single
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can made, was not for sale and wasn't properly approved.
As a result, the bud Light brand has new leadership.
Dylan mulvaney is not under contract with bud Light. The
videos you may have seen are Mulvaney's own social media
posts that went viral, and many web based news outlets
have distorted the story. You deserve to know the truth.
And life is too short to let a couple of
them individuals decide of which you can eat or drink
or spend your hard earned money on.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
So this guy has done a better job I think
of trying to deal with the situations obviously affecting him,
affecting his business. And as I was saying, I know
people who know so by you know, second order removed
from me, bud bud Light delivery guys, distributors, things like that,
and they're getting hurt by this. Your business is down
thirty percent. You got to think in terms of margins
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and not just gross sales. If your business is down
thirty percent, you may be out of business in a
matter of time. It's not like you can sustain that.
And and so that's that's obviously something that hurts. But
I would just say this Anheuser Busch in BEV, which
owns the bud Light brand, and the marketing people involved
with this. They didn't even after a couple of weeks.
They didn't say, we're so sorry that we did this
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and we're never going to do this again, and we're
not going to play this game. We just want to
bring you great beer and this was crap. Did they
even fire anyone?
Speaker 1 (23:58):
I should notice? Has it even been fired.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
No one's been fired, No apology has been given, nothing
has been done.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
They are hoping all of you just.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Forget and start drinking bud Light again. Now, part of
that I think could be just a delusion, because they're
in the you know, the fog of corporate war right now,
they're on what they're doing. But I also think like
at some level it's because even still these companies Anheuser
Busch in BEV, like the big umbrella corporation that own
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spun Light, I think they're more worried even at this stage,
about upsetting the LGBTQ I A plus activists than they
are the people who drink their products. Yeah, and that's
why they're not willing to do the obvious. You and
I could sit down with the CEO of in BEV
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and strategize this in ten minutes, and they would They
wouldn't make this cool problem go away overnight, but you
would see the curve start to go in the other direction.
People say, are right, we did had come out with
a statement, and I think people have started to feel
comfortable like lesson learned. No one feels like lesson learned.
What's the lesson learned? That they think that we have
short attention spans, that they think that, you know, maybe
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this time they got caught. Next time they'll do it again.
So this is why, you know, I think pedal to
the metal. The pressure has to stay on. And then
that brings me to Target. Now this is a tough one. Carrie,
my wife loves Target. It's gone there for so many years.
There's a Target very near us. I will tell you
that Carrie took me to a Target for the first time. Clay,
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I had never been you'd been in a Target before,
not until the last twelve months. That's really fine. I
had never been to a Target before. I'm an Amazon
dot com guy. But uh, you know Target is selling
these bathing suits. Yeah, that have like a a How
do we even like a top touch, a tuck pouch.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
I think it's called women's bathing suits ostensibly that allow
and quotation mark women to hide their penises. I mean,
I I just I can't even believe that this is real,
that a place like Target that there would be First
of all, there can't be that much demand for this, right,
Like how many dudes with penises are really wearing women's
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bathing suits on her? Like? What is the market cap? Like?
How much money can you possibly make selling women's bathing
suit with penis holes for them?
Speaker 2 (26:26):
So if Target is selling is selling weiener Hider bathing suits.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
We hider like a worst hot dog ever selling, they're
selling hot dog hammocks.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
I mean they're selling situations here that are not good,
uh for you know, we see what's going on, and
I wonder, okay, so are people going to take you know,
is it just a bud light?
Speaker 1 (26:53):
I just can't stop. I just can't stop thinking buck
that somehow we've gone from women buying their bathing suits
and worrying does this make me look fat? Is are
my boobs showing too much? Is my nipple gonna pop
out too? Are you gonna be able to see my penis?
Speaker 3 (27:13):
Like?
Speaker 1 (27:13):
This is what we're trying to say that women are thinking.
Now they've gone from do I look fat in this
bathing suit? To will my uh? I'm trying to use
the words this is. This is at some level, it's
a violation.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Of the The true ethos of transgenderism isn't that you
should have to hide the male penis. It's that when
you're transgender, the penis is actually a vagina, So why
hide it in.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
The first place.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
We're just supposed to believe this is a vagina because
it's a woman, and that's the way this goes. So
I feel like they're trying to have it both ways,
which I suppose is not surprising. You're talking about the
transgender situation, but are people going to take action against
target claus?
Speaker 1 (27:50):
Should you? Should? I think look, people say, okay, where
does this all leave? And I get it if you're frustrated,
You're like, man, I just want to have a beer.
I just want to go by a bathing suit. I
don't want to have to make calculated political decisions every
time I want to get a hamburger or you want
to go, like I said, just to go get a beer.
(28:10):
I think that the reason why this bud Light reaction
is important, buck Is. I think right now, for the
first time ever, there are marketing meetings at every big
brand in America and they are saying, hey, let's make
sure that we don't get bud lighted, that we don't
destroy our brand because we're too woke. And they've never
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had that discussion before in the history of pretty much
any brand in America. You know, I have a friend
who works at a high level corporate comms firm, and
I remember I spoke to him, you know, off the record,
or you know, without attribution whatever, with different things. Without
attribution is you can talk about what you said, but
you can't say who said it. Just two friends talking though,
(28:52):
we'll put it that way. About how shocked some of
the corporate comms shops were over the willingness to fight
with Disney from Ron de Santis. Yeah, and how that.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
Was a little that was a warning shot. And now
with bud Light, this is the heavy artillery has come in.
It's a whole different level.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
I'm glad you mentioned that Disney thing, because Disney won't
acknowledge it. But for much of this year, the last
calendar year, and certainly the last fiscal year, Disney's been
losing subscribers to Disney Plus. And I don't think a
lot of people have recognized it because remember, the corporate
press doesn't want to acknowledge when a quote unquote conservative
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boycott works because they don't want to give conservatives power
in the marketplace. I think Disney is losing a lot
right now in streaming. We'll talk about that a little
bit more as we close out hour two.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Oh, don't worry, the new Little Mermaid's gonna make billions of.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
No, it's not, No, it's not folks. We'll talk more.
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subscribe today. Welcome back to the Clay Travis and Buck
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few minutes with all of you to talk about my
(31:28):
uh the crackdown on shoplifting plan in NYC, which I
think when you hear it you will be reminded of
why these democrats can't turn around these different cities that
are having these crime issues. I did want to play
this this audio for all of you. This is the
(31:51):
naac president Derek Johnson Clay has a very interesting fact
to bring to bring to light about this to add
into this conversation. First I wanted to hear so the
president of the NAACP says, if you travel to Florida, Well,
I'll let him say, play five for the.
Speaker 5 (32:08):
Governor has perfected the art of doing stunts to gain
campaign contributions. Unfortunately, this will impact people lives. We should
not use race or othering as a too to weaponize
against people, and unfortunately, for a large percentage of the Pridians,
that's what he has done. Therefore, we are advising African
(32:30):
Americans and others that if you travel to Florida, beware
that your life is not value. That we have a
political landscape that could cause harm. As we prepare flour
twenty twenty four elections to right size the political landscape
in the state of Florida, I just.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
Want to point out for whenever someone says your life
is not value, that's meant to be ominous and threatening.
Right if someone doesn't value your life, you could be killed,
you could face violence. That's what that's supposed to imply.
It's a very it's intentionally vague, but it's also intentionally
ominous and threatening. Clay, what did we learn about the
head of the NAACP.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Yeah, Leon W. Russell, who's the chairman of the NAACP.
His Twitter account, according to many people sharing this on Twitter,
says that he lives in Tampa, Florida. So if you
want to know how much of BS this is, if
you truly thought that black people's lives were in danger
in the state of Florida, would you live in the
(33:29):
state of Florida. And it's just to me emblematic of
how much BS this all is. Look, here's the reality.
If the NAACP wants to warn black people about what
they should most be afraid of when it comes to
violent death, do you know what the answer is? Other
black people. It's like you're not allowed to point this out.
The biggest danger of violent death to black people throughout
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all of America, according to the data, is other black people. Now,
to be fair, you are most likely white, Black, Asian,
or Hispanic. Despite all of this racial divisiveness, you are
far more likely to be a victim of a crime
by someone of your own race and to make it
even scarier. This is like the entire basis buck of
(34:16):
the Lifetime television network. If you're a woman listening to
us right now, do you know who's most likely to
do your harm? Your boyfriend or your husband? Right? That's
the entire basis of the Lifetime television network. The reality
is violent crime, if you are a victim, is most
likely going to be perpetrated by someone that you know,
(34:36):
and often by someone of your own race. But that
is not able to even be discussed because some people say,
oh my god, how dare you say that that's racist?
It's not racist to talk about facts. The fact that
we have defined racism to represent anything that makes people
pause or be a little bit uncomfortable based on what
the facts show is one reason why we never have
(34:57):
honest conversations.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
An any analysis racism that requires lies or the suppression
of truth, which is really just the same thing, isn't
analysis that anybody should be hearing, right, I mean, if
you have to lie to talk about something, what does
that say about whatever it is that you were saying.
If you're not allowed to share facts and figures that
are clear. Now, it's one thing to if people want
(35:18):
to argue about issues of criminal justice and say, well,
there's additional context, here's more figures. Okay, that's fine, that's
all part of the conversation. But the you can't share
these numbers. Remember when Elon Musk shared this is Elon
who I just saw pol is also the most He's
the most widely respected figure in American political life.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
Right, did you see that? Pole?
Speaker 2 (35:44):
I texted, I think I thought, I thought I said
this to you earlier before. Maybe I'm I forget what
I send Clay versus what I sent into the team. Anyway,
Elon Musk shared a while ago some data that showed
that ter interracial violence is overwhelmingly not what the media
(36:06):
tells you it is, and then you had all these
people shouting at him saying, well, what about intraracial violence
meeting like white people killing white people and black people
killing black people, to which response is, that's not what
the conversation's about, though, correct, And so if his numbers
are correct, and that is the conversation, we're having the
(36:26):
false belief that it is disproportionately likely that a black
person will be killed by a white person in this
country versus a black phos killing a white person in
this country. Why is Elon not allowed to share that
FBI data?
Speaker 1 (36:40):
Yeah, no, it's one hundred percent right. That's a fact
point that no one wants to discuss. If you're a
white person, you're far more likely to be killed by
a black person than a black person is to be
killed by a white person. Yet the media only covers
white people being involved in the death of black Why
is that
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast age now number two Clay Travis Buck
Sexton Show. We are having a big discussion as we
get Tim Scott South Carolina senator official entry into the
twenty twenty four Republican primary race, and the expectation is
(00:21):
that Ron DeSantis, according to reports last week, we'll be
announcing this week and we will officially have close to
a full field. Now, maybe Mike Pence is going to enter. Buck,
Are you with me that you see no pathway to
the nomination for anyone other than right now, Donald Trump
or Ron DeSantis? Like the Mike Pences of the world,
(00:43):
the Tim Scotts of the world, the Chris Christy if
he were to enter the So New News, like Nicky
Hayley's Vivid Ramaswami. They're all just getting attention and running
four potential cabinet posts, but they have no chance to
really win the nomination.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Yes, I think that's certainly true, But I also think
that having a having a robust primary, I like this.
I keep going back to I'm obsessed with the UH
with Rocky four and then the training montage, you know
where he's like in the in the snow in Siberia.
It's like that made him a better fighter to go
(01:22):
up against Ivan Drago And I just think that you
want a primary with a lot of different voices if
you can have one who are taking different positions. Now,
my problem with what we're seeing right now in this
primary is that it really feels like a two man
race with other people involved who are starting to stack
(01:46):
the deck for one of the two candidates a little bit. Right, So,
Vivek doesn't attack Trump. He only attacked Ramaswami. I think
Tim Scott. I don't think Tim Scott's gonna do a
lot of attacking. And I think he's going to just
be talking about his story, his policy. That's my guess,
just based on the kind of guy he is. But
he's not going to be you know, he's not gonna
be throwing throwing right crosses verbally at in Trump's direction.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
So it feels a little weird right now.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
I would rather have people who are all at least
running to get as much of a share of the
vote as they could, instead of immediately from day one,
some of them seeming to angle toward Donald Trump right away.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
You know, do you see what I mean.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
It's if you have eight guys in who are all
or and gals who are all just trying to throw
punches on that stage, so to speak, and want the
biggest percentage they can get. Great, you know, let's see
how that melee shakes out. Good for politics, good for
the Republican Party. If you've got seven guys who are
all basically on the same team and one guy who's
the only other person who could possibly win, that feels
(02:50):
a little strange to me. That's not really that's not
really the training montage we want here for whoever the
candidate's going to be, And I mean if it's Trump,
I just want Trump to go through the best gauntlet
possible to hone everything about him so that he's the
best candidate he can be. We'll see how this shakes out.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Yeah. Look, the electorate, so far as I can tell,
breaks out with about twenty five percent of people in
the Trump no one else. Right, I'm talking about the
Republican primary electorate. Twenty five percent of you listening to
us right now are die hard Trump no one else.
About twenty five percent are There's no way I'll support
(03:31):
Donald Trump, right, So those two like are the extremes.
And then I would say there's fifty percent of you
that are open to being persuaded to vote for a
variety of candidates. The Trump twenty five percent is going
to be with him no matter what. Trump was right
when he said back in the day, I could be
on Fifth Avenue, I could pull a gun out. There's
(03:52):
about twenty five percent of American population that if Donald
Trump doesn't matter what he does, they're with him, right,
and that is in the republic primary. They're his base.
That group's not going to leave Trump. So the more
candidates there are, there's twenty five percent who are anti
Trump that's going to get broken up into a variety
of different people. And then there's fifty percent who are persuadable.
(04:14):
If I'm Trump, I want as big of a field
as possible. I want there to be twenty people running
for the Republican nomination again, because I want all of
the anti Trump vote to be broken down to as
small as contingents as possible, as opposed to all rushing
to DeSantis or Nikki Haley or Tim Scott or whoever
the candidate is, that we're able to mobilize those so
(04:37):
that is the sort of big picture as we wait
for the DeSantis announcement again Tim Scott announcing within the
last hour or so. But I want to mention this
buck because over the weekend, and I'm reading from a
CNN headline, the NAACP issued a travel advisory for Florida
(04:58):
saying the state vote is openly hostile toward African Americans
under Governor DeSantis' administration. This is one of the most
dishonest things that I have seen a large institution do.
And it raises the question. And I saw you put
up a poll about this recently. You gave like four
different agencies and said which one of these I think
(05:21):
do you trust the most? It would get we get
rid of Yes. My question for you is a is
a somewhat similar version of that. So, first of all,
if you live in Florida and you're black, the state
of Florida is not a threat to you, and overwhelmingly
everyone knows that. It's why Florida is adding hundreds of
thousands of new residents in the past couple of years,
(05:44):
many of them white, black, Hispanic Asian, Like, Florida's got
your back no matter what your race is, Right, That's
why so many people are moving there. Certainly Florida is
setting all time records for vacationers. If you're taking your
family to Disney World and you're a black mom and dad,
you aren't thinking to yourself, oh my goodness, we're under
such peril. If you're you know, single, and you're going
(06:06):
down to Miami for a fun weekend with your guys
or with your girls, you're not thinking, oh my goodness,
if we go out to this nightclub, there's no telling
if we're going to come out alive. Right Like, the
state of Florida is not doing any putting it in
under any peril at all. But Buck, when I see
all these stories, and I had this conversation with my
wife over the weekend, how many big institutions do you
(06:27):
trust right now? Very very few? Because even like if
you even had to name one or two that you trust,
can be media, can be governmental. I don't know that
there's ever been a point in time where I've trusted
big institutions less than right now we are.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
We are as a society increasingly atomized. In fact, Hannah Errand,
in her Origins of Totalitarianism, which is a book that
I would recommend if someone wants to understand our current
moment a little bit better.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
It's a little bit eye.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Opening and upsetting when you start to see some of
the parallels with totalitarianism past and present. But out of
my subjects are people who are disconnected from the rest
of the broader society and feel like they cannot trust
any of the institutions of the society. So they will
latch on to things very easily and and they're much
(07:27):
more likely to be able to be mobilized to a
certain you know, in a certain way. When I look
at the institutions to your question, I feel increasing like
a lot of Americans think that they are in a
place where they can't trust things like the now you see,
it's difficult because there's always tears and there's nuance, right.
You have the FBI, by the way, the UH I
(07:48):
think the FBI. Gosh, I can't remember my own poll
it was it.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Was CDC FB.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
CDC for me is the most disappointing, meaning like, I'm
more disappointed in the CDC one the I R S one,
which I understand because as everyone sees the what is
it now, almost six million illegal migrants coming into this
country getting free stuff from the taxpayer, all in violate
their presence, is a violation of US law. People can
(08:15):
play all these games about how oh, but they're one
day get a hearing or something.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
The whole thing is a scam.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
If you don't pay your taxes, someone is going to
come and arrest you eventually, right if you don't show
up in court, If you don't pay your taxes, people
with guns from the government are going to come and arrestue.
So there's a lack of trust in all institutions that
rely on law. I R S, DJ, Intel community go
down the list because of the politicization that we've all
(08:43):
seen at the top level. And I think that when
you start to add into this what we've seen with
the media. I mean, if someone believes that's that you know,
CNN is you know, an honest broker, they're basically a
cult member. I mean they they are incapable of looking
at data honestly and understanding what we not just date
of but history, but narrative story and seeing what's really
(09:04):
going on. So we are at a point in time
where the left has infiltrated all these institutions. And I
always say the left is an invasive species. You don't
have to have leftists top to bottom and institution. Usually
they come in through the HR department, that's step number one,
and then they start to push more and more the
(09:25):
C suite, and they push more and more on the
hiring and all before you know it, you have this
replication machine of left wing licy. Look, I'm gonna talk
about bud light. Look at bud light for example, bud light.
Do I feel badly for the guys who are trying
to deliver bud light now who're driving. Yeah, it sucks
for them, It's not fair for them. But do I
(09:46):
also understand there's a broader You know, if you're in
a battle political, cultural, or otherwise, there's going to be
there is going to be some collateral damage. There are
going to be people. I think we should do more
to help the people who are being caught up in
this on the bud lights. But you've got to make
a stand. You've got to tell people.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Enough is enough.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
And and I think that you know, when you have
health clay like the CDs, so there was a CDC,
I R S FBI. When you can't trust the federal
health agency, who can you trust?
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (10:17):
And you know when you can't trust the the FBI.
You know, recently, did you see that video where they
were looking for a pro life activist. I shared this
and I'm I'm I don't remember all the details. I'll
look it up in a second, but as a pro
life activist. People were joking around that they thought these
two FBI agents were like, you know Pilate's instructors.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
There were you know, youngish.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Women, and they were like, hey, like, we're just here
to talk to you and chat. We're looking for you know,
your daughter who's a pro life but we're just we
just want to have a conversation. Trying to be very
nonchalant about it. The FBI is showing up looking for
some pro life active Like, what's really going on here?
What is the Merrick Garland DOJ willing to do to
pro life activists? We all know we've started to see that. Meanwhile,
(11:02):
the Epstein thing, So you know, Clay, I told you
about this. I did the Sean Ryan Show recently, which
was a phenomenal podcast. We talked about Epstein. People didn't
believe until they checked, Like they were writing like I
didn't know that was true, but Epstein, do you know
that when the FBI in twenty nineteen went to Epstein's home,
and we just heard the Bill Gates. Epstein was blackmailing
(11:24):
Bill Gates, not for an underage sexual you know, it
was for cheating on his wife, so that it is
a very different legal thing. But he was blackmailing him.
That's what came out in the Wall Street Journal. The
FBI went to epste for the whole thing, right, institutions,
can we trust them? They go to Epstein's eighty million
dollar townhouse in twenty nineteen, which he was given. Right,
(11:46):
I mean, you're a generous guy, but you're not giving
me an eighty million dollars townhouse any soon.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
I don't think like that's that's a lot, right, That's
it was a Victorian secret founder, Wexner who gave him
that townhouse, basically, right, that's right. And the f shows
up there, and what do they find? Everybody? What is
the big missing.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Piece and all the Epstein stuff? Who's being blackmailed? Who
are the targets of these blackmail operations? Who is he
recording in all of these massage parlors he had set
up in his homes with the cameras and everything else.
Somehow we've never heard of any of this, right, I
should say we've never seen any of this. The FBI
shows up in twenty nineteen, finds tapes, video tapes with
(12:30):
things like you know, girl, so and so like names
on them.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
You know what the FBI does everybody?
Speaker 2 (12:37):
They call into headquarters and they say, hey, yeah, we
don't have a warrant to take this stuff.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
We can't.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Actually we have a search warrant, but we can't take
the things that we're searching for. The FBI leaves. This
is a matter of public record. This came out in
court during Giele and Maxwell's trial. The FBI leaves, and
they leave behind the tapes. Guess what happens a couple
of days later. Three days later, not in a big rush,
apparently the FBI, the FBI that goes to check on
(13:06):
pro life activists, they come back and they say the
tapes are gone. Oh, the tapes are gone. And then
they reach out to Epstein's estate he obviously was dead
at this point, attorney, and they say, hey, what happened
to those tapes. The attorney goes, oh, I have them,
(13:27):
and the FBI says, hey, could you bring those over
to us? Just make sure you bring all of them, okay,
and that is how that went down.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Do you trust the FBI? Everybody?
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Does anyone out there? Does any law enforcement officer want
to try to explain to.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Me how that one went down? Oh? I think and
this has been my theory for a while. I think
Epstein the reason why he was able to avoid jail
for so long was he was an asset, Yes, either
our government, maybe also foreign government. I think he was
a foreign government asset working inside the US institutions that
he could, but yes, and then he had all of
(14:04):
this blackmailable data. Right. You know, you're showing up and
you're getting a massage from a sixteen year old and
you're in It wasn't a massage as we know, right yeah, right,
massage in quotation marks, but it's videoed. You are in
a position of incredible prominence. And my theory is that
he was blackmailing many of the super powerful individuals and
(14:27):
also sharing some of that blackmail information with some of
these governments. They had the goods on a lot of
different people, and that's that, to me, explains much of
what happened with Epstein. That's my theory. Obviously, we don't
know for sure, but that what you're laying out would
tie in that would help to make sense of it.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
I one hundred percent agree with your theory. I would
just add to this though, or remind everybody Clay I
laid out for you, and I'm pretty precise on the
facts here. I mean, there might be one ering, but
FBI shows up, finds the tapes and leaves without the
tapes because it wasn't in the search what were they
searching for And they couldn't leave somebody there to figure
(15:05):
out whether or not the tapes are at you know,
they couldn't like monitor the house to make sure somebody
to the lawyer gets them.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
The FBI has to call the lawyer and say, hey,
can you bring us the blackmail tapes that you have?
And what was on those tapes? No answers, And how
does Maxwell end up the only person that's charged alongside
of Epstein who conveniently commits suicide, right, I mean, I'm
just saying none of it adds up, And honestly, this
is a great example of where the media doesn't follow up.
(15:32):
And I would just say it's probably because a lot
of the people that are in positions of power associated
with the media are either caught up in this thing
or their friends are caught up in this thing. It
is a sordid, nasty mess. But by the way, on
the NAACP thing, what about buck the fact that it
comes out a couple of days before Desantus is announcing
(15:54):
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Speaker 2 (17:23):
All right, welcome back to Clay and Buck. We've got
a lot that's coming your way here. In a moment, Clay,
I think we should talk a little bit about how
upset the left has become in recent days over DeSantis
stopping the trans surgeries on kids in Florida. You cannot
(17:44):
do this in Florida anymore. The left is absolutely apoplectic
over that. They're freaking out over it. And we have
more on bud Light and I'll talk to you about
Mayor Eric Adams in the third hour and what he's
saying about how to down crime and also what do
about the migrant flow. So that's all coming up.
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I shared this link yesterday. I'd encourage you guys to
go read it, especially if you work in a business
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that is bon woke because there's a front page article
in the Monday edition of the Wall Street Journal that
dives in great detail into the collapse of bud Light
in the wake of their decision to put a trans
influencer on a beer can as a part of a
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March Madness promotion. And initially when people said, hey, we're
going to fight back against this, there was ridicule. There
was the belief nothing would happen. And in the chart
that is included in the bud Light article in the
Wall Street Journal, Buck, you can see that in the
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first week of May, bud light consumption in this country
is down twenty eight percent, and every week it keeps
getting worse. And you remember first weekend in May. This
is when I did my experiment, and you were here
with me in the Nashville area. We were at a
musical event and no one would take a bud light.
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And what I am seeing when I am out and
about when I am in a bar, when I'm in
a restaurant, I'll ask, I'll say, hey, how's bud light selling,
And by and large the servers will say nobody's ordering it. Now.
I live in the Nashville area Red state of Tennessee,
so I'm not saying that everything that I'm experiencing is representative,
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but when it's down twenty eight percent nationwide, and now
it's starting to filter over to Mick Ultra and to
Budweiser itself, and Budweiser is deciding that they're going to
have red, white, and blue cans, and they're going to
have a Harley Davidson edition, and they're going to have
a camouflage edition. They are desperately backpedaling over the fact
(21:01):
that they insulted the consumer base by and large of
bud Light, not just with that ad buck, but also
with their director of marketing saying, yeah, we didn't really
like the people who were drinking bud Light. It was
too frauty, There was out of touch humor, and people
are saying, well, wait a minute. You know, relatively speaking,
there's not that much difference between bud Light Coors Light,
(21:23):
and let's say Miller Lte And I understand some of
our audience fervently disagrees with me on this buck, but
I will go to the grave that if you were
having nachos or you're having a hot dog at a
ball game, that you just drinking out of a cup
cannot distinguish between the taste of those three and so
this is now the most success successful pushback we have
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ever seen on any brand for going woke and directly
undercutting their business. And I believe we have audio. It's
important for you to realize, and you mentioned this in
the first hour of the show. I think Buck, a
lot of employees' way he's out there, are not in
support of what bud Light did, and a lot of
distributors are not in support because the way that Budweiser
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is distributed is with different regional outposts all over the
country and one of the distributors down in Alabama, he
was fed up. Buck. Listen to the ad that he
took out directly to attack what his company did.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
Listen, There's been a lot of discussion, frustration, and even
anger across the country regarding just one single can made
a bud Light that was produced for a social media influencer.
We too, at VAMA Budwiser, said about it and have
made our feelings known to the top leadership at ANHUSE. Course,
we do not, and as I said before, did not
support this issue involving Dylan mulvaney. There was one single
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can made, was not for sale and wasn't properly approved.
As a result, the bud Light brand has new leadership.
Dylan mulvaney is not under contract with bud Light. The
videos you may have seen are Mulvaney's own social media
posts that went viral, and many web based news outlets
have distorted the story. You deserve to know the truth.
And life is too short to let a couple of
them individuals decide of which you can eat or drink
or spend your hard earned money on.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
So this guy has done a better job I think
of trying to deal with the situations obviously affecting him,
affecting his business. And as I was saying, I know
people who know so by you know, second order removed
from me, bud bud Light delivery guys, distributors, things like that,
and they're getting hurt by this. Your business is down
thirty percent. You got to think in terms of margins
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and not just gross sales. If your business is down
thirty percent, you may be out of business in a
matter of time. It's not like you can sustain that.
And and so that's that's obviously something that hurts. But
I would just say this Anheuser Busch in BEV, which
owns the bud Light brand, and the marketing people involved
with this. They didn't even after a couple of weeks.
They didn't say, we're so sorry that we did this
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and we're never going to do this again, and we're
not going to play this game. We just want to
bring you great beer and this was crap. Did they
even fire anyone?
Speaker 1 (23:58):
I should notice? Has it even been fired.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
No one's been fired, No apology has been given, nothing
has been done.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
They are hoping all of you just.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Forget and start drinking bud Light again. Now, part of
that I think could be just a delusion, because they're
in the you know, the fog of corporate war right now,
they're on what they're doing. But I also think like
at some level it's because even still these companies Anheuser
Busch in BEV, like the big umbrella corporation that own
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spun Light, I think they're more worried even at this stage,
about upsetting the LGBTQ I A plus activists than they
are the people who drink their products. Yeah, and that's
why they're not willing to do the obvious. You and
I could sit down with the CEO of in BEV
(24:51):
and strategize this in ten minutes, and they would They
wouldn't make this cool problem go away overnight, but you
would see the curve start to go in the other direction.
People say, are right, we did had come out with
a statement, and I think people have started to feel
comfortable like lesson learned. No one feels like lesson learned.
What's the lesson learned? That they think that we have
short attention spans, that they think that, you know, maybe
(25:11):
this time they got caught. Next time they'll do it again.
So this is why, you know, I think pedal to
the metal. The pressure has to stay on. And then
that brings me to Target. Now this is a tough one. Carrie,
my wife loves Target. It's gone there for so many years.
There's a Target very near us. I will tell you
that Carrie took me to a Target for the first time. Clay,
(25:33):
I had never been you'd been in a Target before,
not until the last twelve months. That's really fine. I
had never been to a Target before. I'm an Amazon
dot com guy. But uh, you know Target is selling
these bathing suits. Yeah, that have like a a How
do we even like a top touch, a tuck pouch.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
I think it's called women's bathing suits ostensibly that allow
and quotation mark women to hide their penises. I mean,
I I just I can't even believe that this is real,
that a place like Target that there would be First
of all, there can't be that much demand for this, right,
Like how many dudes with penises are really wearing women's
(26:17):
bathing suits on her? Like? What is the market cap? Like?
How much money can you possibly make selling women's bathing
suit with penis holes for them?
Speaker 2 (26:26):
So if Target is selling is selling weiener Hider bathing suits.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
We hider like a worst hot dog ever selling, they're
selling hot dog hammocks.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
I mean they're selling situations here that are not good,
uh for you know, we see what's going on, and
I wonder, okay, so are people going to take you know,
is it just a bud light?
Speaker 1 (26:53):
I just can't stop. I just can't stop thinking buck
that somehow we've gone from women buying their bathing suits
and worrying does this make me look fat? Is are
my boobs showing too much? Is my nipple gonna pop
out too? Are you gonna be able to see my penis?
Speaker 3 (27:13):
Like?
Speaker 1 (27:13):
This is what we're trying to say that women are thinking.
Now they've gone from do I look fat in this
bathing suit? To will my uh? I'm trying to use
the words this is. This is at some level, it's
a violation.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Of the The true ethos of transgenderism isn't that you
should have to hide the male penis. It's that when
you're transgender, the penis is actually a vagina, So why
hide it in.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
The first place.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
We're just supposed to believe this is a vagina because
it's a woman, and that's the way this goes. So
I feel like they're trying to have it both ways,
which I suppose is not surprising. You're talking about the
transgender situation, but are people going to take action against
target claus?
Speaker 1 (27:50):
Should you? Should? I think look, people say, okay, where
does this all leave? And I get it if you're frustrated,
You're like, man, I just want to have a beer.
I just want to go by a bathing suit. I
don't want to have to make calculated political decisions every
time I want to get a hamburger or you want
to go, like I said, just to go get a beer.
(28:10):
I think that the reason why this bud Light reaction
is important, buck Is. I think right now, for the
first time ever, there are marketing meetings at every big
brand in America and they are saying, hey, let's make
sure that we don't get bud lighted, that we don't
destroy our brand because we're too woke. And they've never
(28:31):
had that discussion before in the history of pretty much
any brand in America. You know, I have a friend
who works at a high level corporate comms firm, and
I remember I spoke to him, you know, off the record,
or you know, without attribution whatever, with different things. Without
attribution is you can talk about what you said, but
you can't say who said it. Just two friends talking though,
(28:52):
we'll put it that way. About how shocked some of
the corporate comms shops were over the willingness to fight
with Disney from Ron de Santis. Yeah, and how that.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
Was a little that was a warning shot. And now
with bud Light, this is the heavy artillery has come in.
It's a whole different level.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
I'm glad you mentioned that Disney thing, because Disney won't
acknowledge it. But for much of this year, the last
calendar year, and certainly the last fiscal year, Disney's been
losing subscribers to Disney Plus. And I don't think a
lot of people have recognized it because remember, the corporate
press doesn't want to acknowledge when a quote unquote conservative
(29:36):
boycott works because they don't want to give conservatives power
in the marketplace. I think Disney is losing a lot
right now in streaming. We'll talk about that a little
bit more as we close out hour two.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Oh, don't worry, the new Little Mermaid's gonna make billions of.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
No, it's not, No, it's not folks. We'll talk more.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
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(31:28):
uh the crackdown on shoplifting plan in NYC, which I
think when you hear it you will be reminded of
why these democrats can't turn around these different cities that
are having these crime issues. I did want to play
this this audio for all of you. This is the
(31:51):
naac president Derek Johnson Clay has a very interesting fact
to bring to bring to light about this to add
into this conversation. First I wanted to hear so the
president of the NAACP says, if you travel to Florida, Well,
I'll let him say, play five for the.
Speaker 5 (32:08):
Governor has perfected the art of doing stunts to gain
campaign contributions. Unfortunately, this will impact people lives. We should
not use race or othering as a too to weaponize
against people, and unfortunately, for a large percentage of the Pridians,
that's what he has done. Therefore, we are advising African
(32:30):
Americans and others that if you travel to Florida, beware
that your life is not value. That we have a
political landscape that could cause harm. As we prepare flour
twenty twenty four elections to right size the political landscape
in the state of Florida, I just.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
Want to point out for whenever someone says your life
is not value, that's meant to be ominous and threatening.
Right if someone doesn't value your life, you could be killed,
you could face violence. That's what that's supposed to imply.
It's a very it's intentionally vague, but it's also intentionally
ominous and threatening. Clay, what did we learn about the
head of the NAACP.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Yeah, Leon W. Russell, who's the chairman of the NAACP.
His Twitter account, according to many people sharing this on Twitter,
says that he lives in Tampa, Florida. So if you
want to know how much of BS this is, if
you truly thought that black people's lives were in danger
in the state of Florida, would you live in the
(33:29):
state of Florida. And it's just to me emblematic of
how much BS this all is. Look, here's the reality.
If the NAACP wants to warn black people about what
they should most be afraid of when it comes to
violent death, do you know what the answer is? Other
black people. It's like you're not allowed to point this out.
The biggest danger of violent death to black people throughout
(33:55):
all of America, according to the data, is other black people. Now,
to be fair, you are most likely white, Black, Asian,
or Hispanic. Despite all of this racial divisiveness, you are
far more likely to be a victim of a crime
by someone of your own race and to make it
even scarier. This is like the entire basis buck of
(34:16):
the Lifetime television network. If you're a woman listening to
us right now, do you know who's most likely to
do your harm? Your boyfriend or your husband? Right? That's
the entire basis of the Lifetime television network. The reality
is violent crime, if you are a victim, is most
likely going to be perpetrated by someone that you know,
(34:36):
and often by someone of your own race. But that
is not able to even be discussed because some people say,
oh my god, how dare you say that that's racist?
It's not racist to talk about facts. The fact that
we have defined racism to represent anything that makes people
pause or be a little bit uncomfortable based on what
the facts show is one reason why we never have
(34:57):
honest conversations.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
An any analysis racism that requires lies or the suppression
of truth, which is really just the same thing, isn't
analysis that anybody should be hearing, right, I mean, if
you have to lie to talk about something, what does
that say about whatever it is that you were saying.
If you're not allowed to share facts and figures that
are clear. Now, it's one thing to if people want
(35:18):
to argue about issues of criminal justice and say, well,
there's additional context, here's more figures. Okay, that's fine, that's
all part of the conversation. But the you can't share
these numbers. Remember when Elon Musk shared this is Elon
who I just saw pol is also the most He's
the most widely respected figure in American political life.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
Right, did you see that? Pole?
Speaker 2 (35:44):
I texted, I think I thought, I thought I said
this to you earlier before. Maybe I'm I forget what
I send Clay versus what I sent into the team. Anyway,
Elon Musk shared a while ago some data that showed
that ter interracial violence is overwhelmingly not what the media
(36:06):
tells you it is, and then you had all these
people shouting at him saying, well, what about intraracial violence
meeting like white people killing white people and black people
killing black people, to which response is, that's not what
the conversation's about, though, correct, And so if his numbers
are correct, and that is the conversation, we're having the
(36:26):
false belief that it is disproportionately likely that a black
person will be killed by a white person in this
country versus a black phos killing a white person in
this country. Why is Elon not allowed to share that
FBI data?
Speaker 1 (36:40):
Yeah, no, it's one hundred percent right. That's a fact
point that no one wants to discuss. If you're a
white person, you're far more likely to be killed by
a black person than a black person is to be
killed by a white person. Yet the media only covers
white people being involved in the death of black Why
is that
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