September 14, 2023 • 36 mins
Biden plans another big speech on "threats to democracy." Pelosi refuses to say Kamala Harris is the best running mate for Biden, pushes back on replacing Joe. Flashback to Biden using his son's death to deny involvement in Hunter's business. Nicholas Kristof writes NYT editorial admitting breakdown of marriage has a negative impact. Hunter Biden indicted on gun charges, C&B react.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of the Klay, Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
The Washington Post, one of their premier columnists, said, yesterday,
as we discussed, Hey Joe Biden, you shouldn't run in
twenty twenty four.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
You need to make the decision in the next thirty days.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
CNN, by the way, Buck is reporting that Joe Biden
is planning a big address on what do you think.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
Threats to democracy?
Speaker 2 (00:22):
He's planning another big speech on threats to democracy.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
It's Joe Biden.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
There are a lot of ways that could have gone,
you know, the threat of pickles falling from the sky
or you know, finding a chicken and a fox on
top of the roof at the same time.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
You never know what Joe Biden's going to say.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Well, just for everybody out there who thinks they probably
have already, you know, like squeezed every possible bit of
political benefit out of January sixth, CNN is reporting Biden
planning speech on threats to democracy in coming weeks, sources say.
(01:01):
And the opening paragraph of this from CNN just so
you know, because we were talking about this last hour
and I was like, oh, this is you know, crazy,
President Joe Biden plans.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
This is the opening of the article.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
President Joe Biden plans to deliver a speech focused on
threats to democracy. Democratic donors gathered in Chicago for a
fundraising retreat learned of the plans Wednesday. Biden plans to
deliver the speech following the second Republican primary debate. One
venue under consideration for the speech is the McCain Institute,
(01:31):
and he is going to remember he went to Independence Hall,
which I think is the one you talked about in
Philadelphia where it was backlit all the red. I think
that was Independence Hall, and he also did one in
d C. He also traveled down to Georgia and said
that basically the Civil War was still going on and
that the change in the voting bill in Georgia was
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the equivalent of Jim Eagle, far worse than Jim Crow.
So I just think it's important for everybody out there
to under stand that the Biden Harris regime is not
going to do anything different. They're going to continue the
same message that they tried to sell in twenty twenty two,
which is Trump is a dictator and American democracy will
(02:14):
end if he ends up in power.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
You know, it's I feel like there's no upside maybe
and saying this, but the Trump team, some of whom
listen to this show, they need to be prepared for
the fact that I already know what the ads are
going to be against Trump from Biden. Yeah, and there's
a lot of exuberance right now among the Trump I'm
(02:37):
talking about faithful from the campaign that they have and
I think everybody would admit this. I mean, they have
absolutely so far completely crushed the Republican primary competition in
a way that you know, it's just, you.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Know, no one foresaw happening. I don't even think.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Nobody was saying this would like I think people thought
Trump would be up fifteen points. Trump might maybe be
up twenty. I mean, Trump up forty fifty, sixty points.
Whatever it is. No one saw this coming. Okay, that's
the Republican primary. He's a former president. People stay with him,
people want to see him back in power. On the right,
how does all this play on the Democrat side of things.
(03:13):
The ads they are going to run against Trump are
very apparent, they are very easy, and they are made
for a media saturation environment. It's going to be jan six,
It's going to be Trump's statements. It's going to be
you know, I think they're going to make ads of
people who got prison sentences for January sixth who say
that Trump abandoned them for example. I mean you've already
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started to see the media pick up on those stories,
meaning jan six defendants. So that's there. You know, the
re election campaign for Biden is going to be all
that you know as well as you know it's your point, Claiy.
It'll be you know, different states. They'll tailor it a
bit of abortion rights here, you know, a little class
warfare there. There'll be some variations on this, but the
(03:55):
primary theme will be Joe Biden is a steady custodian
of democracy against a lunatic, unreliable, dictatorial, dictatorial blah blah.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Trump is hitler.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
But those ads, we need to have a response, or
at least need to have an effective enough line of
attack against Biden that it neutralizes the effect that they're
going to hope those ads have, not on me, not
on you, not on this audience, but on people in
six swing states. That's the whole that's the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Okay, So Biden, I just want to give you the background.
What he's planning a court According to CNN yesterday, we
talked about the column saying he shouldn't run as also
an attack on Kamala, because if you really thought that
Joe Biden had done a great job and Kamala Harris
(04:49):
had worked alongside of him and done a good job too,
Democrats wouldn't be that panics. They would say, okay, we're
just because I think buck Would you agree with me?
No one expected that in the fall of twenty twenty three,
and I'm counting at his fall, even though we're not
quite officially to fall right that in the fall of
twenty twenty three, we would be sitting here expecting Joe
Biden to run again. I think if you had been
(05:11):
in you know, like January of twenty twenty, if we've
been doing the show, we would have said he's going
to hand the baton to Kamala at twenty twenty four,
will be all about Kamala.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Think about how seamless that would be, That would make
that makes perfect sense. That's actually the situation that I
think the Democrats were prepared for the whole time. The
problem that they've run into is that just like you know,
we were talking about No one expected Trump was gonna
be able to blow out his competition this much, this
(05:39):
quickly in the primary. I don't think anyone on the
Democrats side expected that Kamala Harris would with Democrats have
such a deficit that that she would.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
She's a vice president, Clay, it's a ceremony.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
And by way, can we do some of the Pelosi
let's get into same We've got the audio, so let's
get some of this going here, because she's pushed on
this a little bit. For this is Anderson Cooper is
apparently still doing a show. Anderson Cooper is talking to
Kamala Harris here I'm sorry, talking to Nancy Pelosi and
asks her about whether Kamala Harris is the best choice
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play twelve.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
Harris is the best running mate for this president, he
thinks so, And that's what matters.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Do you think she is the best running mate?
Speaker 3 (06:23):
Though she's the vice president of the United States?
Speaker 2 (06:25):
So people say to me, why isn't she doing this
or that?
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Is because she's the vice president? That's the job description.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
You don't do that much.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Can I just point just point out that is like
very nasty from Nancy Pelosi.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Well, but it is somewhat true. But think about that.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Right.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
They thought that Kamala would be perfect because they elevated
her for diversity and inclusion politics purposes beyond the rest
of the field.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
There were more popular other.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
Democrats, right, I'm now speaking if if I'm putting my
Democrat strategist hat on, so to speak. They thought Kamala
brings youth, she brings females, she brings minority all.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
To the ticket, youth relatively speaking for a politician, and.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
They thought that would be good enough because she doesn't
really have to do anything. What's remarkable is that even
in a role where she was expected to not do
very much, she has been a failure among her own party.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
You know what I mean? This is like.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
But but buck I mean, this seems like pretty nasty
by Nancy Pelosi.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
We played this audio again. That's a very easy question
to answer. Oh, you mean the first part of it,
because I'm like the last part of it. John Adams agreed,
like the vice presidents. Yeah, but it's worth a bucket,
a spit or whatever. But listen to this again. I mean,
this isn't this is Nancy Pelosi. Whatever you think is not.
Dianne Feinstein. She's not Joe Biden. She is able to
answer questions candidly. Her brain works. It's an easy question.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
But if you got asked and you were speaking for
Nancy Pelosi, like Anderson Cooper asked that question, Joe Biden
believes she's the right choice, and I do too, It's done.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
Imagine if Anderson Cooper asked you or me, it said,
do you think that Donald Trump could win again and
be a good president?
Speaker 1 (08:15):
We're like, I mean I've heard other people say that.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Or he thinks so, you know, I mean if that
if our answer was he thinks so.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
You would be like, well that's okay.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
And then he follows up and says, no, no, no, do
you think listen to this again?
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Because and also remember a lot of these questions.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Well he pushes her again, do you want to That's
what I'm saying, Oh yeah, yeah, I want to hear
the whole thing to me. But you know this, a
lot of these questions that Anderson Cooper decides to ask,
there's some sort of budding idea that Nancy Pelosi doesn't
like Kamala Harris.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
I have a theory about all of this. But let's
play thirteen one more next one where Cooper pushes.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
Would stood out to me though certainly was her answer
about Kamala Harris. She didn't say yes, she didn't. Well,
she said was Biden's decision. And more importantly, she actually
offered like a nugget of defense of Vice President Harris,
which is like, she is politically astute. And if there's
one thing about Nancy Pelosi, she respects wins. That's what
(09:14):
she always brought to the caucus. That's the energy she
brings to things. And she very much said, look, this
person can do it. Okay, don't underestimate them.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Okay, now sorry, that was actually clean up by Is
that that's that's Maggie Haberman, right, that's what that's I
think I recognized that voice. That was Anderson Cooper speaking
to Haberman about the Pelosi sit down with Cooper. We
don't actually have this on the sheet right now, but
Cooper went back to Pelosi again in the same exchange
and said, you're like not talking about this?
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Is that really? How you know?
Speaker 3 (09:46):
I'm paraphrasing here, but it's clear she didn't want to
get into a clay this this is my theory. I
just want to throw this out there. I remember we
can get the second part of the Pelosi because the
longer it's like a two thirty exchange, and we've got
like eighteen seconds of it there. But this is what
I said yesterday or the day before. They know the
ignacious column. This is the Democrats who were like, guys Biden,
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it can't be. They're the the apparatus, the Pelosis, the
top of the of the DNC hierarchy are saying, shut up,
this is what we've got. Don't try to start some
internal you know, Democrat palace coup. I think that's really
what you're seeing playout meeting. They're they're trying to hold
it from breaking through the it can't be Joe, We
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got to do something else, which is what Ignatius was saying.
They don't want that to break through.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Yeah, and I think we've got Pelosi responding directly to
that column that we talked about yesterday as well. Pelosi
is asked, you saw what Ignatius said in his column
in the Washington Post. Here's what she said about Biden,
whether he should run.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Do you think there's any chance he does not continue running?
Speaker 4 (10:52):
I hope not. I hope not. I mean this president David.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Ignacious recently came out of saying he thinks the former
president should not run.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Yeah, that's one. That's a good answer, right again.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
I you can dislike Nancy Pelosi and her politics. I
think her politics are very wrong. She's a very good
advocate for her positions. Oh, she's ruthless and has wielded
power for Democrats very effective and you know, gathered and
wielded power very effectively from the left and done a
lot of damage to the country in the process for
(11:25):
a long time. But Clay, this is what I mean.
If Nancy Pelosi, if they were going to replace Joe
or if there was some plan here, if Nancy Pelosi
had gone to Anderson Cooper's show and said, you know,
we do have a process in place, and we're thinking,
you know, if she had left it open, yeah, there'd
be more momentum. There'd be more momentum. Pelosi is laughing
at it. One guy's opinion, shut it down. And I
(11:50):
do think Nancy Pelosi not answering on Kamala Harris really
because that's an easy question for her. This is not like, hey,
what do you thinks going on in some tiny subset
of Ukraine Russia, where you're like, well, I might not
be that informed on it.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Do you think he thinks so? There? Doen?
Speaker 2 (12:08):
You just asked a question about yourself and you say
somebody else's opinion, that's telling.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
Didn't you also raise whether Pelosi and Kamla I don't
think Pelosi likes Kamala Harris.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
I don't think so either. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
I think you alluded to this a few moments ago,
and I was thinking about it. I don't think Pelosi
likes Kamala Harris.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Harris?
Speaker 3 (12:27):
Is there a competition between that they're both California politicians?
Speaker 1 (12:32):
I don't think that Kamala Harris is.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Let's just be honest. Nancy Pelosi is from San Francisco.
How did Kamala Harris get her start in politics by
being the mistress of the mayor of San Francisco, Willie Brown. So,
if you are Nancy Pelosi, you have known Kamala Harris
for a long time, and the first time you probably
would have been acquainted with her is by finding out
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that she's the mistress of the mayor of San Francisco.
I bet Nancy Pelosi doesn't respect that. I'm gonna be
honest with you I think I think you are correct.
Most married women, generally speaking, do not respect the mistress
of a married man. Just tossing that out there, the
side chick is not typically favorably disposed by the married women.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
And Nancy Pelosi would have known Kamala.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Harris for decades before she ever became a national political figure,
and I would suspect that Nancy Pelosi is not very
well disposed towards Kamala Harrison. Plus she called the president
a racist, like the fact that Joe Biden even put
her on the ticket.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
To me, is this is what I was gonna go,
where I was going to go. I think we can
always get into this mindset. We did a whole bunch
of like an analytic training about this back in the
CIA days of assuming that your opponent always has some
plan that was well thought out and maybe there was
some problem in the execution. Sometimes people just do stupid things. Yeah,
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Sometimes even really smart to really astute people do stupid things.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
The choice of.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
Kamala Harris as VP in retrospect now by Biden and
his handlers, it just seems it just seems like it
was a blunder. I mean, you know, I don't think
I don't think it was well thought out, but then
she didn't execute very well. Nobody should have thought she
was going to execute well in the role, even if
it's a role that's very limited in terms of the
obligations and responsibilities. I think what happened is and again,
(14:28):
this would be easy if Biden really liked Kamala Harris,
you see this happen all the time with coaches. You
retire when they can't name somebody else, so your number
two guy gets automatically elevated. If Biden really liked Kamala,
he would announce in like June, Hey, I'm not gonna
run in twenty twenty four.
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It's like the the Biden crime Family nemesis by doing
you know, reporting. But this is a flashback to December
of twenty nineteen when Biden was pushed on the conflicts
of interest of Hunter.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Just just listen to just.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
The acid tone he uses here, the venom and then
falling back on personal tragedy play ten. You know, it
didn't look good for Hunter Biden to be on that board,
even if you did nothing wrong.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
The optics weren't good.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
But there were.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Former White House aids of yours who tried to warn
you about the potential conflicts of interest. Nobody warned me
about a potential conflict of interest. Nobody warned me about that.
And at the same time, George Kent, the State Department official,
testified that he raised it to you by yourself, to yourself,
he did not your staff never never heard that once
to your staff, and their staff told him he has
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no bandwidth. Well, my son guine. I guess that's why
he said it, because my son was on his deathbed.
Look at that.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
You know, because I say that, then it's a serious
allegation to say about somebody that they will use personal
tragedy in such a brute force political way, such a
manipulative way. Joe Biden's been doing clay his whole political life.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
That's that, by the way, is from you said it,
I think twenty nineteen nineteen, right, Yeah, for Joe Biden
to immediately pivot from I didn't know anything about the
Barisma conflicts too.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Well, my son was dying.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
I mean that's just gross. Yeah, I mean it's just gross.
And and by the way, take away what he's talking about.
Listen to how much better Biden sounds, even if you
disagree with what he's saying. Interacting in twenty nineteen compared
to interacting in twenty twenty three, he has deteriorated in
a big way.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
That's true, that's true. You can hear it in his voice.
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As I've said for some time, I read the Washington
Post and the New York Times every day so you
do not have to do it yourself.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
And the interesting evolution that I.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Am seeing, Buck, is the New York Times opinion page
is suddenly starting to occasionally have actually interesting opinions rooted
in fact that might make the people who read the
New York Times a bit uncomfortable. And Buck, I saw this,
I wanted to hit you with it because I couldn't
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believe where I.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Was reading it.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
This is a Nicholas Christoff editorial in the New York
Times today. The one privileged liberals ignore is the headline
and the subheading here is we can't talk about poverty
without addressing the breakdown of marriage and family. And I've
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read this whole thing, and I would actually encourage all
of you out there to read this too, because here's
a couple of stats that he starts off the column
with families headed by single mothers are five times as
likely to live in poverty as married couple families. Children
in single mother home are less likely to graduate from
high school or earn a college degree, more likely to
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become single parents themselves, perpetuating the cycle. Thirty percent of
American children now live with a single parent or with
no parent at all. One reason for the sensitivity that
he's talking about. People won't talk about it racial disparities.
Single parenting less common in white and Asian households.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
Only This stat blew me away.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Only thirty eight percent of Black kids live with married
parents thirty eight percent.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
A couple of other stats here, Yeah, this has been
known for decades. The amount of research, sociological research that
has gone into this, it is ironclad. Does he go
into the crime stats on this too? I didn't read
this article. You did, but that's another one where and
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actually hat tip and culter on this one. She brought
this forward back in I think it was her book
of her book Mugged, when she looked at the stat
numbers for people of single parent homes and the violent
crime crossover, as in, if you not that someone from
a single parent home is going to be violent. But
if you look at people guilty of violent crimes, the
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number that come from single parent homes or no parent
homes is astronomical.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Doesn't surprise me at all. Here's where the crux. I'd
never seen this data before. Buck, listen to this. Ninety
one percent of college educated conservatives agree children are better
off if they have married parents. Ninety one percent of
college educated conservatives. Only thirty percent of college educated liberals agree.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
They're out of their minds. They're wrong on based on
all the data. They are destroying the lives of people
who are less fortunate by refusing to look at the
obvious reality here. And you know, Nicholas Christoff, he likes
he's throwing off right like an article like that, as
you know, and then we're all supposed to say, he's
not going to actually carry the torch on this, he's
not going to push this when there's pushback against him.
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It's once a year he'll write something like this, and
then the cowardice will set in. Sorry, I've just I
was on Bill Maher with this guy before I know
his whole routine. He's a he's among the anyway, keep going,
I'm sorry, I get the argument.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
I mean he was going to run for governor of
Oregon as a Democrat, right, wasn't he the guy at
the New York Times, And they found out that he
wasn't eligible because he hadn't lived in Oregon long enough.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Am I He's a dishonest, cringing lib my fun.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
But the point here is this is really emblematic. What
he points out is thirty percent of college educated liberals
are willing to say children are better off if they
have married parents, only thirty percent. Yet those college educated
liberals overwhelmingly get married and have kids.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
That's what they're destroying.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
They're destroying the lives they know, the people who go
to who go to you know, Oberlin and Brown University
and Berkeley and really any college these days, like for
the most part, AMers is just as bad. I'm not
taking shots at those schools that don't apply to the
place where I went. I think Vanderbilts maybe a little
more conservative.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
I can't speak to vanderbil I don't know what it's
like now. But have you heard this phrase? This is
what the University of Virginia, A sociologist family expert at
the University of Virginia named Brad Wilcox. I thought this
summed it up really well. He calls those people.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
The liberals who claim that they believe things that are
you know, like the thirty percent who would say, oh,
there's no need to have two parent households. He says,
they talk left walk right, so they send out all
the messaging to the left wing. That's a really good phrase, right, well,
talk left walk right. This is the this is the
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foundational sin in so many ways of the modern liberal
in America today is to espouse policies that they then
try to make themselves or are immune from. This was
I mean, yes, best evidence by Democrats pushing for Obamacare
and making in Congress and making sure that they wouldn't
(24:14):
have to have Obamacare plans. Or find me a rich
a rich Democrat, you know, a Democrat with millions of dollars,
which there are far too many of in Congress that
have where the income come from? You know, that's a
whole other question, right, But find me a rich Democrat.
I'll find you one who sends their kids to private
school while pushing everyone else's kids to public schools, including
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failing public schools, who live in not diverse neighborhoods. While
they want to defund police and talk about how it's
so important, but they live in a neighborhood where there's
very little diversity and very little crime. What's going on
with that, Clay, They're frauds because to live under left
wing policies is to a miserate yourself. But to live
under policies of the you know, to live your life
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as somebody on the right while making others sacrifice for
the left.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
Stalin would be proud.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
That's okay, here's a Christoph doesn't hit this in his piece,
but I love that phrase.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
I want all of you to think about it.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Think about the number of people you know who talk
left but walk right. They will spout left wing propaganda,
but in their own lives they make conservative decisions. They
get married, they have kids inside of families. Okay, why
would they do that? Part of it is virtue signaling.
But I think the biggest reason here, Buck is that
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what's the biggest fear of a left winger in America today?
Speaker 3 (25:39):
Well, I would you would probably say being called racist,
but I actually think being called anti an anti trans
bigot scares them more these days.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
But sure more.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
Okay, so I would still say it's being called racist.
So what they're doing here with all of this commentary
is they're trying to protect themselves from accusations of racism.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
And this goes to the root.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
I think fundamental issue that is caused is the use
of identity politics and everything else. The fear of being
called racist has spread to such an extent that even
discussing factual accuracies like this one buck, sixty two percent
of white kids in low poverty areas they still have
(26:20):
fathers present in the homes. What percentage of black kids
in low poverty areas have dads in the house low
income areas? Yeah, yeah, yeah, right, I didn't read this article,
so I'm guessing the percentage of white last.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
Sixty two percent.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
If you're a poor white kid there's live in a
poor neighborhood, there's still a sixty two percent chance that
there is a father figure in your home.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
Says that scenario for black half four percent.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
Wow, So even if you think about what is the difference, Okay,
a poor white kid and a poor black kid living
in a low income neighborhood. If you're a poor white kid,
there's still a sixty two percent chance that there is
a father figure in your home. There's a four percent
chance if you're a poor black kid. Okay, that's a
(27:09):
factual data. The people who are being victimized by this
are and then the evidence you well know this. He
talks about this, but as well, when you grow up
in poverty, you tend to replicate the same kind of
situations you have kids young.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
This is why the four.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Things that I've been hammering for a long time, graduate
high school, get a job, get married, don't have a
kid till you're twenty five. Your poverty rate is zero,
regardless of your race. People won't talk about these facts,
Buck because they're afraid of the facts leading to them
being called racist. Which is why these white people say, oh,
you don't need extra parent household.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
What you're saying is true. I do think it's more
than that though, as well. The modern democrat left of
the last six I'm trying to do the math here,
let's call it last sixty years or so contribution. I'm sorry, Well,
he's no, I'm gonna cut you off. We got major
breaking news. Hunter Biden indicted on gun charges. Wow, Sexton,
(28:11):
major blockbuster news. Sorry to cut you off, mid mid Uh,
I'm about to philosophical about the last seventy years of
the American welfare state and family dissolution, Hunter Biden.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
So they did indict Okay, all right, all right for this,
let's go to break. Do I get a stake over
the indictment? No? Not over the know if he goes
to prison, Uh, we'll read. We'll give you the appslce.
I'm sorry to cut you off.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
I know you were gonna wax philosophical there, but I
was so excited when my new when I got the
news alert on.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
My phone to pop up. Here it's this You're you're
celebrating so early. They're gonna do a plea deal here
or Joe's gonna step in.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Hunter is not going to prison. You're here, is all
I want to say.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
This judge in Delaware, Noriyeika, if she doesn't uh ask questions,
I know the hero in the history of the jurispemics.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
And I love her again.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
I love her. I wanted her autograph. I'd like to
meet her at some point. I like the judge that
got rid of the mask mandate more. But we'll we'll
like her too.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
Her look at the details of my two favorite and
let's see what actually happens. An indictment does not mean
that there is a trial. That does not mean anyone
goes to prison. It does not mean that anything bad
happens to them. There are four indictments against Trump, which
we talk about a lot, as we know, so we'll
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All right, The big breaking news play is over there
doing some backflips. I don't even know he could do backflips.
He's very simple, fellow Hunter Biden indicted on federal gun charges.
The indictment this is from NBC News. The indictment against
the president's son comes after a plea agreement on tax
(31:11):
and gun charges fell apart in July, amid a probe
of his finances by House Republicans. The two counts are
tied to I guess they wait, they say it's let
me see, is it two counts or three? K Well,
they say, here, two counts are tied to Biden allegedly
filing a form that he was not an I legal
drug user when he purchased a Colt Cobra in October
(31:32):
of twenty eighteen. Third count is that he possessed a
firearm while using a narcotic. The problem with trying to
fight that charge is, I think he basically has like
video or photos of him with mounds of cocaine waving
a gun around with prostitutes.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
Its gonna be tough to convince people that.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
He also admitted it in his book that he was
drug at I mean, like he is basically admitted that
he violated these these laws.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
Now, now here's where.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
Here's where where this is gonna really where the rubber
is really going to meet the road, Hunter Biden is,
You've got a lot of things coming together here. We
talked about earlier in the week. I said this with
the ignacious piece, You're gonna have to see the snowball effect.
It's gonna have to be an avalanche. It's gonna have
(32:21):
to be the movement of many simultaneous pieces. Nancy Pelosi
kind of said, no, no, no, no, no, we're not
We're not doing it. She kind of slapped that down
and the last time she was on air, you know,
speaking to CNN. But here we have a moment that
creates considerable weakness for the president politically if this should
(32:42):
go forward and be our problem. Here's how I see
this though playing out.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
Clay.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
I'm just gonna put this out there because right right now,
I understand there's there's a lot riding on this one.
Because if Hunter actually gets prosecuted, taken into court and
it is facing prison time, we'd go back. You know,
you extended your bet. It didn't happen last year. You
said you thought it would happen this year. I said
it didn't definitely happen last year, but you know I
thought it wasn't gonna happen this year. Again, here's what
(33:09):
I think they're gonna do. They're gonna go into negotiations
over this. They're gonna push the trial back, and Joe
Biden's going to say, see, the justice system is working.
Even my own son faces justice They're going to turn
up the pressure even more on and Donald Trump is
not only going to be tried, he should go to prison,
(33:32):
and they are going to stay with Biden. That is
how I think this still plays out. What are you
seeing here right now on this one? Meaning, I don't
think Hunter Biden sees the inside of a prison cell
because Dad's gonna pardon him one way or another before
that could ever happen. So my initial read on this
(33:55):
was that Merrick Garland would need to charge Hunter Biden
in order to charge Donald Trump, and that he would
argue and doing so that people can go back and listen,
we said this years ago that he would say, you're
not above the law, whether you're the former president of
the United States or the current president's son.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
The law there are consequences.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
Merrick Garland tried to sweetheart deal this thing, totally totally
tried to sweetheart deal this thing. They worked it through
and here's what happened. Judge nor Yaika.
Speaker 3 (34:28):
Wait, I know a you're gonna get the Judge nor
Yaka high five. Can I just throw this to the clay.
Think about this. If you're a hundred is team they
were yes inches. I mean this was diving into the
end zone with the football to win the game for them,
and they came up two inches short.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
So a couple of things. One the House, let's give
credit here.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
People say, okay, what does it matter if you win
the House or you win the Senate. The House developed
all of this evidence, including the public testimony of the
IRS agents. I think if Shapley and the other guy's
name who I'm forgetting, if they don't come forward and
tell the story of the rig job of this investigation,
(35:09):
then the Department of Justice would not have been humiliated
and called out in what is clearly a sweetheart deal
that they had put together. So the evidence that was
developed by the House allowed this story to get out.
And then Judge Noriyeika read all this, knew all this,
saw it, and said, I'm not rubber stamping this deal.
(35:30):
To your point, Buck, they expected when they walked into
that courtroom that they were free and clear and that
Hunter Biden was going to have no consequences. And I said,
this is what I argued should happen. If Noriaeika stood
up and said no, that they would need to a
point of special counsel, which is what happened. And now
there are charges being fault.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
And this is.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
Important, Buck, because the charges being filed, it ends any
concern at least on these charges for this running out right,
for the statute of limitations passing yes, and for their not.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
Being able to be any charges brought. I will throw
this out there. I am not convinced that the fix
is not still in. They have filed the indictment. What
happens now, what's the negotiation over this? How long does
it take? When would the trial be? If I'm Hunter Biden,
I either take a plea that is no jail time. Oh,
(36:24):
and then I can have my dad pardon me so
I can keep my law license, et cetera, et cetera,
or I extend it out so that I don't see
the courtroom in time for Dad to pardon me.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
From the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
Anyway, Yeah, we got a lot that we need to discuss.
Let me also mention this as we go to break,
to come back and talk about it. The other big
aspect here, what's going to happen with the tax charges next?
Welcome to today's edition of the Klay, Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
The Washington Post, one of their premier columnists, said, yesterday,
as we discussed, Hey Joe Biden, you shouldn't run in
twenty twenty four.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
You need to make the decision in the next thirty days.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
CNN, by the way, Buck is reporting that Joe Biden
is planning a big address on what do you think.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
Threats to democracy?
Speaker 2 (00:22):
He's planning another big speech on threats to democracy.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
It's Joe Biden.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
There are a lot of ways that could have gone,
you know, the threat of pickles falling from the sky
or you know, finding a chicken and a fox on
top of the roof at the same time.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
You never know what Joe Biden's going to say.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Well, just for everybody out there who thinks they probably
have already, you know, like squeezed every possible bit of
political benefit out of January sixth, CNN is reporting Biden
planning speech on threats to democracy in coming weeks, sources say.
(01:01):
And the opening paragraph of this from CNN just so
you know, because we were talking about this last hour
and I was like, oh, this is you know, crazy,
President Joe Biden plans.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
This is the opening of the article.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
President Joe Biden plans to deliver a speech focused on
threats to democracy. Democratic donors gathered in Chicago for a
fundraising retreat learned of the plans Wednesday. Biden plans to
deliver the speech following the second Republican primary debate. One
venue under consideration for the speech is the McCain Institute,
(01:31):
and he is going to remember he went to Independence Hall,
which I think is the one you talked about in
Philadelphia where it was backlit all the red. I think
that was Independence Hall, and he also did one in
d C. He also traveled down to Georgia and said
that basically the Civil War was still going on and
that the change in the voting bill in Georgia was
(01:53):
the equivalent of Jim Eagle, far worse than Jim Crow.
So I just think it's important for everybody out there
to under stand that the Biden Harris regime is not
going to do anything different. They're going to continue the
same message that they tried to sell in twenty twenty two,
which is Trump is a dictator and American democracy will
(02:14):
end if he ends up in power.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
You know, it's I feel like there's no upside maybe
and saying this, but the Trump team, some of whom
listen to this show, they need to be prepared for
the fact that I already know what the ads are
going to be against Trump from Biden. Yeah, and there's
a lot of exuberance right now among the Trump I'm
(02:37):
talking about faithful from the campaign that they have and
I think everybody would admit this. I mean, they have
absolutely so far completely crushed the Republican primary competition in
a way that you know, it's just, you.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Know, no one foresaw happening. I don't even think.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Nobody was saying this would like I think people thought
Trump would be up fifteen points. Trump might maybe be
up twenty. I mean, Trump up forty fifty, sixty points.
Whatever it is. No one saw this coming. Okay, that's
the Republican primary. He's a former president. People stay with him,
people want to see him back in power. On the right,
how does all this play on the Democrat side of things.
(03:13):
The ads they are going to run against Trump are
very apparent, they are very easy, and they are made
for a media saturation environment. It's going to be jan six,
It's going to be Trump's statements. It's going to be
you know, I think they're going to make ads of
people who got prison sentences for January sixth who say
that Trump abandoned them for example. I mean you've already
(03:34):
started to see the media pick up on those stories,
meaning jan six defendants. So that's there. You know, the
re election campaign for Biden is going to be all
that you know as well as you know it's your point, Claiy.
It'll be you know, different states. They'll tailor it a
bit of abortion rights here, you know, a little class
warfare there. There'll be some variations on this, but the
(03:55):
primary theme will be Joe Biden is a steady custodian
of democracy against a lunatic, unreliable, dictatorial, dictatorial blah blah.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Trump is hitler.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
But those ads, we need to have a response, or
at least need to have an effective enough line of
attack against Biden that it neutralizes the effect that they're
going to hope those ads have, not on me, not
on you, not on this audience, but on people in
six swing states. That's the whole that's the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Okay, So Biden, I just want to give you the background.
What he's planning a court According to CNN yesterday, we
talked about the column saying he shouldn't run as also
an attack on Kamala, because if you really thought that
Joe Biden had done a great job and Kamala Harris
(04:49):
had worked alongside of him and done a good job too,
Democrats wouldn't be that panics. They would say, okay, we're
just because I think buck Would you agree with me?
No one expected that in the fall of twenty twenty three,
and I'm counting at his fall, even though we're not
quite officially to fall right that in the fall of
twenty twenty three, we would be sitting here expecting Joe
Biden to run again. I think if you had been
(05:11):
in you know, like January of twenty twenty, if we've
been doing the show, we would have said he's going
to hand the baton to Kamala at twenty twenty four,
will be all about Kamala.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Think about how seamless that would be, That would make
that makes perfect sense. That's actually the situation that I
think the Democrats were prepared for the whole time. The
problem that they've run into is that just like you know,
we were talking about No one expected Trump was gonna
be able to blow out his competition this much, this
(05:39):
quickly in the primary. I don't think anyone on the
Democrats side expected that Kamala Harris would with Democrats have
such a deficit that that she would.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
She's a vice president, Clay, it's a ceremony.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
And by way, can we do some of the Pelosi
let's get into same We've got the audio, so let's
get some of this going here, because she's pushed on
this a little bit. For this is Anderson Cooper is
apparently still doing a show. Anderson Cooper is talking to
Kamala Harris here I'm sorry, talking to Nancy Pelosi and
asks her about whether Kamala Harris is the best choice
(06:14):
play twelve.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
Harris is the best running mate for this president, he
thinks so, And that's what matters.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Do you think she is the best running mate?
Speaker 3 (06:23):
Though she's the vice president of the United States?
Speaker 2 (06:25):
So people say to me, why isn't she doing this
or that?
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Is because she's the vice president? That's the job description.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
You don't do that much.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Can I just point just point out that is like
very nasty from Nancy Pelosi.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Well, but it is somewhat true. But think about that.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Right.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
They thought that Kamala would be perfect because they elevated
her for diversity and inclusion politics purposes beyond the rest
of the field.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
There were more popular other.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
Democrats, right, I'm now speaking if if I'm putting my
Democrat strategist hat on, so to speak. They thought Kamala
brings youth, she brings females, she brings minority all.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
To the ticket, youth relatively speaking for a politician, and.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
They thought that would be good enough because she doesn't
really have to do anything. What's remarkable is that even
in a role where she was expected to not do
very much, she has been a failure among her own party.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
You know what I mean? This is like.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
But but buck I mean, this seems like pretty nasty
by Nancy Pelosi.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
We played this audio again. That's a very easy question
to answer. Oh, you mean the first part of it,
because I'm like the last part of it. John Adams agreed,
like the vice presidents. Yeah, but it's worth a bucket,
a spit or whatever. But listen to this again. I mean,
this isn't this is Nancy Pelosi. Whatever you think is not.
Dianne Feinstein. She's not Joe Biden. She is able to
answer questions candidly. Her brain works. It's an easy question.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
But if you got asked and you were speaking for
Nancy Pelosi, like Anderson Cooper asked that question, Joe Biden
believes she's the right choice, and I do too, It's done.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
Imagine if Anderson Cooper asked you or me, it said,
do you think that Donald Trump could win again and
be a good president?
Speaker 1 (08:15):
We're like, I mean I've heard other people say that.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Or he thinks so, you know, I mean if that
if our answer was he thinks so.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
You would be like, well that's okay.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
And then he follows up and says, no, no, no, do
you think listen to this again?
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Because and also remember a lot of these questions.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Well he pushes her again, do you want to That's
what I'm saying, Oh yeah, yeah, I want to hear
the whole thing to me. But you know this, a
lot of these questions that Anderson Cooper decides to ask,
there's some sort of budding idea that Nancy Pelosi doesn't
like Kamala Harris.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
I have a theory about all of this. But let's
play thirteen one more next one where Cooper pushes.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
Would stood out to me though certainly was her answer
about Kamala Harris. She didn't say yes, she didn't. Well,
she said was Biden's decision. And more importantly, she actually
offered like a nugget of defense of Vice President Harris,
which is like, she is politically astute. And if there's
one thing about Nancy Pelosi, she respects wins. That's what
(09:14):
she always brought to the caucus. That's the energy she
brings to things. And she very much said, look, this
person can do it. Okay, don't underestimate them.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Okay, now sorry, that was actually clean up by Is
that that's that's Maggie Haberman, right, that's what that's I
think I recognized that voice. That was Anderson Cooper speaking
to Haberman about the Pelosi sit down with Cooper. We
don't actually have this on the sheet right now, but
Cooper went back to Pelosi again in the same exchange
and said, you're like not talking about this?
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Is that really? How you know?
Speaker 3 (09:46):
I'm paraphrasing here, but it's clear she didn't want to
get into a clay this this is my theory. I
just want to throw this out there. I remember we
can get the second part of the Pelosi because the
longer it's like a two thirty exchange, and we've got
like eighteen seconds of it there. But this is what
I said yesterday or the day before. They know the
ignacious column. This is the Democrats who were like, guys Biden,
(10:09):
it can't be. They're the the apparatus, the Pelosis, the
top of the of the DNC hierarchy are saying, shut up,
this is what we've got. Don't try to start some
internal you know, Democrat palace coup. I think that's really
what you're seeing playout meeting. They're they're trying to hold
it from breaking through the it can't be Joe, We
(10:31):
got to do something else, which is what Ignatius was saying.
They don't want that to break through.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Yeah, and I think we've got Pelosi responding directly to
that column that we talked about yesterday as well. Pelosi
is asked, you saw what Ignatius said in his column
in the Washington Post. Here's what she said about Biden,
whether he should run.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Do you think there's any chance he does not continue running?
Speaker 4 (10:52):
I hope not. I hope not. I mean this president David.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Ignacious recently came out of saying he thinks the former
president should not run.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Yeah, that's one. That's a good answer, right again.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
I you can dislike Nancy Pelosi and her politics. I
think her politics are very wrong. She's a very good
advocate for her positions. Oh, she's ruthless and has wielded
power for Democrats very effective and you know, gathered and
wielded power very effectively from the left and done a
lot of damage to the country in the process for
(11:25):
a long time. But Clay, this is what I mean.
If Nancy Pelosi, if they were going to replace Joe
or if there was some plan here, if Nancy Pelosi
had gone to Anderson Cooper's show and said, you know,
we do have a process in place, and we're thinking,
you know, if she had left it open, yeah, there'd
be more momentum. There'd be more momentum. Pelosi is laughing
at it. One guy's opinion, shut it down. And I
(11:50):
do think Nancy Pelosi not answering on Kamala Harris really
because that's an easy question for her. This is not like, hey,
what do you thinks going on in some tiny subset
of Ukraine Russia, where you're like, well, I might not
be that informed on it.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Do you think he thinks so? There? Doen?
Speaker 2 (12:08):
You just asked a question about yourself and you say
somebody else's opinion, that's telling.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
Didn't you also raise whether Pelosi and Kamla I don't
think Pelosi likes Kamala Harris.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
I don't think so either. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
I think you alluded to this a few moments ago,
and I was thinking about it. I don't think Pelosi
likes Kamala Harris.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Harris?
Speaker 3 (12:27):
Is there a competition between that they're both California politicians?
Speaker 1 (12:32):
I don't think that Kamala Harris is.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Let's just be honest. Nancy Pelosi is from San Francisco.
How did Kamala Harris get her start in politics by
being the mistress of the mayor of San Francisco, Willie Brown. So,
if you are Nancy Pelosi, you have known Kamala Harris
for a long time, and the first time you probably
would have been acquainted with her is by finding out
(12:56):
that she's the mistress of the mayor of San Francisco.
I bet Nancy Pelosi doesn't respect that. I'm gonna be
honest with you I think I think you are correct.
Most married women, generally speaking, do not respect the mistress
of a married man. Just tossing that out there, the
side chick is not typically favorably disposed by the married women.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
And Nancy Pelosi would have known Kamala.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Harris for decades before she ever became a national political figure,
and I would suspect that Nancy Pelosi is not very
well disposed towards Kamala Harrison. Plus she called the president
a racist, like the fact that Joe Biden even put
her on the ticket.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
To me, is this is what I was gonna go,
where I was going to go. I think we can
always get into this mindset. We did a whole bunch
of like an analytic training about this back in the
CIA days of assuming that your opponent always has some
plan that was well thought out and maybe there was
some problem in the execution. Sometimes people just do stupid things. Yeah,
(13:59):
Sometimes even really smart to really astute people do stupid things.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
The choice of.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
Kamala Harris as VP in retrospect now by Biden and
his handlers, it just seems it just seems like it
was a blunder. I mean, you know, I don't think
I don't think it was well thought out, but then
she didn't execute very well. Nobody should have thought she
was going to execute well in the role, even if
it's a role that's very limited in terms of the
obligations and responsibilities. I think what happened is and again,
(14:28):
this would be easy if Biden really liked Kamala Harris,
you see this happen all the time with coaches. You
retire when they can't name somebody else, so your number
two guy gets automatically elevated. If Biden really liked Kamala,
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Speaker 1 (15:48):
Let's take a little trip.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
Down Biden crime memory.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Lane, shall we just for a moment here?
Speaker 3 (15:53):
We're gonna be joined by Morna Devine in the third
hour of the program with the absolute latest on this one.
It's like the the Biden crime Family nemesis by doing
you know, reporting. But this is a flashback to December
of twenty nineteen when Biden was pushed on the conflicts
of interest of Hunter.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Just just listen to just.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
The acid tone he uses here, the venom and then
falling back on personal tragedy play ten. You know, it
didn't look good for Hunter Biden to be on that board,
even if you did nothing wrong.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
The optics weren't good.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
But there were.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Former White House aids of yours who tried to warn
you about the potential conflicts of interest. Nobody warned me
about a potential conflict of interest. Nobody warned me about that.
And at the same time, George Kent, the State Department official,
testified that he raised it to you by yourself, to yourself,
he did not your staff never never heard that once
to your staff, and their staff told him he has
(16:52):
no bandwidth. Well, my son guine. I guess that's why
he said it, because my son was on his deathbed.
Look at that.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
You know, because I say that, then it's a serious
allegation to say about somebody that they will use personal
tragedy in such a brute force political way, such a
manipulative way. Joe Biden's been doing clay his whole political life.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
That's that, by the way, is from you said it,
I think twenty nineteen nineteen, right, Yeah, for Joe Biden
to immediately pivot from I didn't know anything about the
Barisma conflicts too.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Well, my son was dying.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
I mean that's just gross. Yeah, I mean it's just gross.
And and by the way, take away what he's talking about.
Listen to how much better Biden sounds, even if you
disagree with what he's saying. Interacting in twenty nineteen compared
to interacting in twenty twenty three, he has deteriorated in
a big way.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
That's true, that's true. You can hear it in his voice.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
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As I've said for some time, I read the Washington
Post and the New York Times every day so you
do not have to do it yourself.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
And the interesting evolution that I.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Am seeing, Buck, is the New York Times opinion page
is suddenly starting to occasionally have actually interesting opinions rooted
in fact that might make the people who read the
New York Times a bit uncomfortable. And Buck, I saw this,
I wanted to hit you with it because I couldn't
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believe where I.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Was reading it.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
This is a Nicholas Christoff editorial in the New York
Times today. The one privileged liberals ignore is the headline
and the subheading here is we can't talk about poverty
without addressing the breakdown of marriage and family. And I've
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read this whole thing, and I would actually encourage all
of you out there to read this too, because here's
a couple of stats that he starts off the column
with families headed by single mothers are five times as
likely to live in poverty as married couple families. Children
in single mother home are less likely to graduate from
high school or earn a college degree, more likely to
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become single parents themselves, perpetuating the cycle. Thirty percent of
American children now live with a single parent or with
no parent at all. One reason for the sensitivity that
he's talking about. People won't talk about it racial disparities.
Single parenting less common in white and Asian households.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
Only This stat blew me away.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Only thirty eight percent of Black kids live with married
parents thirty eight percent.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
A couple of other stats here, Yeah, this has been
known for decades. The amount of research, sociological research that
has gone into this, it is ironclad. Does he go
into the crime stats on this too? I didn't read
this article. You did, but that's another one where and
(20:52):
actually hat tip and culter on this one. She brought
this forward back in I think it was her book
of her book Mugged, when she looked at the stat
numbers for people of single parent homes and the violent
crime crossover, as in, if you not that someone from
a single parent home is going to be violent. But
if you look at people guilty of violent crimes, the
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number that come from single parent homes or no parent
homes is astronomical.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Doesn't surprise me at all. Here's where the crux. I'd
never seen this data before. Buck, listen to this. Ninety
one percent of college educated conservatives agree children are better
off if they have married parents. Ninety one percent of
college educated conservatives. Only thirty percent of college educated liberals agree.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
They're out of their minds. They're wrong on based on
all the data. They are destroying the lives of people
who are less fortunate by refusing to look at the
obvious reality here. And you know, Nicholas Christoff, he likes
he's throwing off right like an article like that, as
you know, and then we're all supposed to say, he's
not going to actually carry the torch on this, he's
not going to push this when there's pushback against him.
(22:08):
It's once a year he'll write something like this, and
then the cowardice will set in. Sorry, I've just I
was on Bill Maher with this guy before I know
his whole routine. He's a he's among the anyway, keep going,
I'm sorry, I get the argument.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
I mean he was going to run for governor of
Oregon as a Democrat, right, wasn't he the guy at
the New York Times, And they found out that he
wasn't eligible because he hadn't lived in Oregon long enough.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Am I He's a dishonest, cringing lib my fun.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
But the point here is this is really emblematic. What
he points out is thirty percent of college educated liberals
are willing to say children are better off if they
have married parents, only thirty percent. Yet those college educated
liberals overwhelmingly get married and have kids.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
That's what they're destroying.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
They're destroying the lives they know, the people who go
to who go to you know, Oberlin and Brown University
and Berkeley and really any college these days, like for
the most part, AMers is just as bad. I'm not
taking shots at those schools that don't apply to the
place where I went. I think Vanderbilts maybe a little
more conservative.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
I can't speak to vanderbil I don't know what it's
like now. But have you heard this phrase? This is
what the University of Virginia, A sociologist family expert at
the University of Virginia named Brad Wilcox. I thought this
summed it up really well. He calls those people.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
The liberals who claim that they believe things that are
you know, like the thirty percent who would say, oh,
there's no need to have two parent households. He says,
they talk left walk right, so they send out all
the messaging to the left wing. That's a really good phrase, right, well,
talk left walk right. This is the this is the
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foundational sin in so many ways of the modern liberal
in America today is to espouse policies that they then
try to make themselves or are immune from. This was
I mean, yes, best evidence by Democrats pushing for Obamacare
and making in Congress and making sure that they wouldn't
(24:14):
have to have Obamacare plans. Or find me a rich
a rich Democrat, you know, a Democrat with millions of dollars,
which there are far too many of in Congress that
have where the income come from? You know, that's a
whole other question, right, But find me a rich Democrat.
I'll find you one who sends their kids to private
school while pushing everyone else's kids to public schools, including
(24:35):
failing public schools, who live in not diverse neighborhoods. While
they want to defund police and talk about how it's
so important, but they live in a neighborhood where there's
very little diversity and very little crime. What's going on
with that, Clay, They're frauds because to live under left
wing policies is to a miserate yourself. But to live
under policies of the you know, to live your life
(24:57):
as somebody on the right while making others sacrifice for
the left.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
Stalin would be proud.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
That's okay, here's a Christoph doesn't hit this in his piece,
but I love that phrase.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
I want all of you to think about it.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Think about the number of people you know who talk
left but walk right. They will spout left wing propaganda,
but in their own lives they make conservative decisions. They
get married, they have kids inside of families. Okay, why
would they do that? Part of it is virtue signaling.
But I think the biggest reason here, Buck is that
(25:33):
what's the biggest fear of a left winger in America today?
Speaker 3 (25:39):
Well, I would you would probably say being called racist,
but I actually think being called anti an anti trans
bigot scares them more these days.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
But sure more.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
Okay, so I would still say it's being called racist.
So what they're doing here with all of this commentary
is they're trying to protect themselves from accusations of racism.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
And this goes to the root.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
I think fundamental issue that is caused is the use
of identity politics and everything else. The fear of being
called racist has spread to such an extent that even
discussing factual accuracies like this one buck, sixty two percent
of white kids in low poverty areas they still have
(26:20):
fathers present in the homes. What percentage of black kids
in low poverty areas have dads in the house low
income areas? Yeah, yeah, yeah, right, I didn't read this article,
so I'm guessing the percentage of white last.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
Sixty two percent.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
If you're a poor white kid there's live in a
poor neighborhood, there's still a sixty two percent chance that
there is a father figure in your home.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
Says that scenario for black half four percent.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
Wow, So even if you think about what is the difference, Okay,
a poor white kid and a poor black kid living
in a low income neighborhood. If you're a poor white kid,
there's still a sixty two percent chance that there is
a father figure in your home. There's a four percent
chance if you're a poor black kid. Okay, that's a
(27:09):
factual data. The people who are being victimized by this
are and then the evidence you well know this. He
talks about this, but as well, when you grow up
in poverty, you tend to replicate the same kind of
situations you have kids young.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
This is why the four.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Things that I've been hammering for a long time, graduate
high school, get a job, get married, don't have a
kid till you're twenty five. Your poverty rate is zero,
regardless of your race. People won't talk about these facts,
Buck because they're afraid of the facts leading to them
being called racist. Which is why these white people say, oh,
you don't need extra parent household.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
What you're saying is true. I do think it's more
than that though, as well. The modern democrat left of
the last six I'm trying to do the math here,
let's call it last sixty years or so contribution. I'm sorry, Well,
he's no, I'm gonna cut you off. We got major
breaking news. Hunter Biden indicted on gun charges. Wow, Sexton,
(28:11):
major blockbuster news. Sorry to cut you off, mid mid Uh,
I'm about to philosophical about the last seventy years of
the American welfare state and family dissolution, Hunter Biden.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
So they did indict Okay, all right, all right for this,
let's go to break. Do I get a stake over
the indictment? No? Not over the know if he goes
to prison, Uh, we'll read. We'll give you the appslce.
I'm sorry to cut you off.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
I know you were gonna wax philosophical there, but I
was so excited when my new when I got the
news alert on.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
My phone to pop up. Here it's this You're you're
celebrating so early. They're gonna do a plea deal here
or Joe's gonna step in.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Hunter is not going to prison. You're here, is all
I want to say.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
This judge in Delaware, Noriyeika, if she doesn't uh ask questions,
I know the hero in the history of the jurispemics.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
And I love her again.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
I love her. I wanted her autograph. I'd like to
meet her at some point. I like the judge that
got rid of the mask mandate more. But we'll we'll
like her too.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
Her look at the details of my two favorite and
let's see what actually happens. An indictment does not mean
that there is a trial. That does not mean anyone
goes to prison. It does not mean that anything bad
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All right, The big breaking news play is over there
doing some backflips. I don't even know he could do backflips.
He's very simple, fellow Hunter Biden indicted on federal gun charges.
The indictment this is from NBC News. The indictment against
the president's son comes after a plea agreement on tax
(31:11):
and gun charges fell apart in July, amid a probe
of his finances by House Republicans. The two counts are
tied to I guess they wait, they say it's let
me see, is it two counts or three? K Well,
they say, here, two counts are tied to Biden allegedly
filing a form that he was not an I legal
drug user when he purchased a Colt Cobra in October
(31:32):
of twenty eighteen. Third count is that he possessed a
firearm while using a narcotic. The problem with trying to
fight that charge is, I think he basically has like
video or photos of him with mounds of cocaine waving
a gun around with prostitutes.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
Its gonna be tough to convince people that.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
He also admitted it in his book that he was
drug at I mean, like he is basically admitted that
he violated these these laws.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
Now, now here's where.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
Here's where where this is gonna really where the rubber
is really going to meet the road, Hunter Biden is,
You've got a lot of things coming together here. We
talked about earlier in the week. I said this with
the ignacious piece, You're gonna have to see the snowball effect.
It's gonna have to be an avalanche. It's gonna have
(32:21):
to be the movement of many simultaneous pieces. Nancy Pelosi
kind of said, no, no, no, no, no, we're not
We're not doing it. She kind of slapped that down
and the last time she was on air, you know,
speaking to CNN. But here we have a moment that
creates considerable weakness for the president politically if this should
(32:42):
go forward and be our problem. Here's how I see
this though playing out.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
Clay.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
I'm just gonna put this out there because right right now,
I understand there's there's a lot riding on this one.
Because if Hunter actually gets prosecuted, taken into court and
it is facing prison time, we'd go back. You know,
you extended your bet. It didn't happen last year. You
said you thought it would happen this year. I said
it didn't definitely happen last year, but you know I
thought it wasn't gonna happen this year. Again, here's what
(33:09):
I think they're gonna do. They're gonna go into negotiations
over this. They're gonna push the trial back, and Joe
Biden's going to say, see, the justice system is working.
Even my own son faces justice They're going to turn
up the pressure even more on and Donald Trump is
not only going to be tried, he should go to prison,
(33:32):
and they are going to stay with Biden. That is
how I think this still plays out. What are you
seeing here right now on this one? Meaning, I don't
think Hunter Biden sees the inside of a prison cell
because Dad's gonna pardon him one way or another before
that could ever happen. So my initial read on this
(33:55):
was that Merrick Garland would need to charge Hunter Biden
in order to charge Donald Trump, and that he would
argue and doing so that people can go back and listen,
we said this years ago that he would say, you're
not above the law, whether you're the former president of
the United States or the current president's son.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
The law there are consequences.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
Merrick Garland tried to sweetheart deal this thing, totally totally
tried to sweetheart deal this thing. They worked it through
and here's what happened. Judge nor Yaika.
Speaker 3 (34:28):
Wait, I know a you're gonna get the Judge nor
Yaka high five. Can I just throw this to the clay.
Think about this. If you're a hundred is team they
were yes inches. I mean this was diving into the
end zone with the football to win the game for them,
and they came up two inches short.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
So a couple of things. One the House, let's give
credit here.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
People say, okay, what does it matter if you win
the House or you win the Senate. The House developed
all of this evidence, including the public testimony of the
IRS agents. I think if Shapley and the other guy's
name who I'm forgetting, if they don't come forward and
tell the story of the rig job of this investigation,
(35:09):
then the Department of Justice would not have been humiliated
and called out in what is clearly a sweetheart deal
that they had put together. So the evidence that was
developed by the House allowed this story to get out.
And then Judge Noriyeika read all this, knew all this,
saw it, and said, I'm not rubber stamping this deal.
(35:30):
To your point, Buck, they expected when they walked into
that courtroom that they were free and clear and that
Hunter Biden was going to have no consequences. And I said,
this is what I argued should happen. If Noriaeika stood
up and said no, that they would need to a
point of special counsel, which is what happened. And now
there are charges being fault.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
And this is.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
Important, Buck, because the charges being filed, it ends any
concern at least on these charges for this running out right,
for the statute of limitations passing yes, and for their not.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
Being able to be any charges brought. I will throw
this out there. I am not convinced that the fix
is not still in. They have filed the indictment. What
happens now, what's the negotiation over this? How long does
it take? When would the trial be? If I'm Hunter Biden,
I either take a plea that is no jail time. Oh,
(36:24):
and then I can have my dad pardon me so
I can keep my law license, et cetera, et cetera,
or I extend it out so that I don't see
the courtroom in time for Dad to pardon me.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
From the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
Anyway, Yeah, we got a lot that we need to discuss.
Let me also mention this as we go to break,
to come back and talk about it. The other big
aspect here, what's going to happen with the tax charges next?
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