November 17, 2023 • 36 mins
No charges for Biden in classified documents case. Nashville police who stopped trans shooter honored at Fox News Patriots awards, authorities still withholding information on case. Memphis police chief admits repeat offenders are the big crime problem in America's cities. Big Cranberry marketing.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Second hour Playing Buck kicks off right now, and I'm
having a bit of a deja vu moment, whereas Yogi
Berra said, played deja vu all over again, because Yogi
Berra had some good stuff.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
I don't think there's anybody who says anywhere near as
interesting of things as Oja as Yogi Berra used to
stay back in the day, right.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Yeah, yeah, he was solid and Yogi Berra. Shakespeare's some
great great minds out there, Seneca. But you know, I
I remember when Sankta Coomy James Comme, I just call
him Sanctacomy on radio. Now I just realized there's somebody
else that gets called the sanctimony word out there, thanks
to President Trump. But sank To Comby James Comy, the
(00:48):
FBI director and the you know, partisan, inside uh inside
baseball bureaucratic infighter.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
He stood before the America people in the twenty.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Sixteen election cycle, you recall, and he said, no prosecutor
would bring charges against Hillary Clinton for her classified documents,
but she was very careless, I think, was something like that,
something like that, That's what he said, and everyone sort
of took the moment. It's a whold on a second,
you're not the attorney general.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
Oh, that's right.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
The Attorney general was Loretta Lynch, who had just had
a happenstance secret tarmac meeting with Bill Clinton, wife of
presidential candidate Hillary Clinton.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
Believe it was in Arizona.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
There's the Secret Service details stayed away where they talked
about their grandchildren right before James COMI came forward.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Instead this in front of the whole country.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
We all remember that, right, that was over classified documents,
and that was over the person that the Democrats thought
was definitely going to be the next president of the
United States. In fact, you recall Hillary shared a photo
of herself on her birthday, Happy birthday to this next
to this future president or whatever, one.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Of the all time Racio destroyed tweets in yeah, mayor
that's that's what the kids call an L online for
a loss.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Yeah, that's she took the L on that one.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
But now we have this is why I'm saying it's
deja vu.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Biden is going to face this is the Wall Street
Journal quote face a face harsh criticism in classified document probe.
So they're gonna put out this. This special Counsel, Robert Herr,
is putting out a report and it's.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
Going to be a naughty, naughty Biden.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Uh you know, don't you You shouldn't have left the
classified by the corvette with Colonel Mustard and the candlestick
in the garage or whatever. You know, you shouldn't have
just left it out. That's not how we do things
with classified. But no one's actually facing any trouble of
any kind. I mean, remember now, you know, it's not
like you get twenty years in federal prison for this
(02:54):
kind of thing. Well actually you could, depending on how
it went, but it's no one's even getting a suspension
of clear I mean, nothing's happened to anybody play involved
with this, certainly not Joe Biden in any capacity, And
it just sort of.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
Feels like, what was the point of this exactly?
Speaker 2 (03:09):
You know, remember when they appointed this special Council, I
think I said, I was like, well, nothing's going to happen,
and here we are.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
Nothing is happening.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Meanwhile, President Trump is facing a federal criminal case in
Florida over his clan that he's the president, he declassified,
he kept documents that he's allowed to keep because he's
president and they're.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
Still going forward with those charges. So what's going on?
Speaker 3 (03:33):
So I think, and I bet you agree with me,
and we've said this for a while, and I think
it's important. The biggest legal peril Trump faces is South
Florida classified document case. I think that the case in
New York City is total crap. The case in Atlanta
(03:55):
is mostly all BS and Jan six related charges from
Jack Smith are mostly trumped up garbage. But the case
on the classified documents front is more I would say,
open and shut in terms of what is and what
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is not and what was and what was not cap
Now there are defenses that can be made based on
presidential powers all those things. I'm not saying that those
aren't valid defenses. And I also think the jury is
far more likely in South Florida to be favorable to
Trump than certainly DC, Atlanta or New York City. And
I think he's got an Eileen Cannon, if I remember correctly,
(04:38):
a judge who was seeking to actually apply the law
fairly and impartially as opposed to a left wing activist
in judicial robes, which I think it's fair to say
that we have in the other three cases Now, I thought,
as soon as Biden had his classified documents case of
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his own, and when all these facts came out, it
would be politically untenable to go after Trump for something
that Joe Biden did. They are not, it appears, going
to even worry about that. From a controversy perspective, they
don't care. I do think that the case in South
Florida is not going to be resolved before the twenty
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twenty four election. And I think if Trump wins, he's
going to be able to pardon himself. And no one
is really talking about this. If Biden won, I think
he might pardon Trump. And some of you are going
to say that's crazy. But once he's already beaten Trump twice,
then he can look like he's the magnanimous elder statesman.
And what does he really care if Trump is harmed
(05:43):
politically by these investigations. I don't think from I'm curious.
I think from a political perspective, Biden believes that Trump
would be harmed by these charges, and therefore he wanted
them to occur in twenty twenty four, during an election year.
But if Biden one and were able to stay in
office until twenty twenty eight. Let's leave aside the health
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and everything else. Do you think he really cares that
much about Trump going to prison? I know the Democrat
base does. But Biden himself, if he were to win
the presidency again and be able to stay in office,
I don't get the sense that he is going to
be fire in Brimstone. Oh Trump walking about the key.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
I man, I can't even really go like, I don't
know if I can't go there intellectually or emotionally. But
I think that if Biden won four more years, is
a chance and Trump was still facing these federal charges, Yeah,
there's a chance that he would let the trials play out.
And I don't think he would pardon him. I think
he would commute any sentence, any punishment.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
So you kind of.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Agree what he would do. He's more focused. He would say,
for the good of the country and for his legacy.
And you know Trump's face the judgment, Yeah, the judgment
of the people has been cast down. Trump is a
convicted felon. I'm not erasing that, but you know, he's
not like under house arrest or anything. I mean, if
it came to that, which I don't think it will
come to that, But I'm just saying I think Biden
would probably commute any I think he'd let the conviction stand.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
Well. So what's interesting about all of that is these Alley.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
First of all, I think we're probably going to get
a written report from Robert Hurr, who is the independent
special counsel investigating the classified documents from Biden, that will
say that Biden, like you said, behaved rashly, he behaved inappropriately,
but he did it rise to the level of criminality
because there was no intent. That's what I suspect ultimately
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this independent council is going to do, and then he'll
try to clean it up and put a bow on it.
And then the Democrat political allies will use that written
report and the evidence that came out, and they will
try to make Trump's behavior look very different and egregious
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in comparison to what Biden did.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Well. The big challenge for that's what they're going to
try to do. The big challenge that they face is
the difference between presidential authority as it pertains to classified
and even the vice president, which is where Biden was
when some of these documents. I think maybe even was
a senator during some of the documents it depends, that'll
(08:23):
be a major difference. And also I can just say
for people who have ever worked in the national security
side and held the clearance as I have, it's just
remarkable to see how politicians get away with all this stuff.
And if you're just somebody who is trying to serve
your country working for the bureaucracy, working at the CIA
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or the NSA or I don't know wherever FBI, where
you need a clearance, and you make even the most
minor mistake, it's like your career is over and they're
going to tell you you're a bad person.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
This is something that you would have nightmares about when
you were at the CIA, Like accidentally, Yes, if if
I had, if I thought, if I when I was
a CI officer, if you told me that they were
going to find multiple top secret documents like strewn about
my home and investigators wouldn't find those, I would have
a straight up panic attack and would be like, I
(09:19):
need a really good attorney, right like.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
That would be my I don't know, I'd be freaking
out because it's not even rightfully so yeah, I wouldn't.
I wouldn't be getting the kid glove treatment here I'd
be treated like some kind of national security threat, as
any other low level government employee would.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Because most people, if you screw up at work, most people,
you don't face criminal charges.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
You you have to actively you have to actively do
something illegal to usually face criminal charges in your job.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
As opposed to just minor negligence, which I would look
at much of this as representing right, like negligence with
negligence with classified is still treated. I mean, if you're
intentionally violeting classified, they're gonna send you to prison for sure.
But even if you're negligent with classified, you can get
suspension of clearance, you can get fired, you could. And
(10:08):
there is reck This was the big thing with Hillary.
There is a recklessness component to the statue. So Congress said, look,
it's okay even if you don't mean to.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
If you're carrying a briefcase home every day and you
happen to have like five classified documents in it because
you didn't check before he went home, and we find
all that stuff in your home, like, we may still
send you to prison. Yeah, that's that's what's actually in
the statue. That's why when Comy came, I'm sorry, Yeah,
Comy came forward and said nobody would charge Hillary. People
were like, she had one hundred classified emails on a
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private server that she set up and had to know
that this was going on. He said, no reasonable prosecutor
would bring charges on this, right, And then there were
federal prosecutors all across the country or former federal prosecutors
who could speak out about this, saying I would have
brought charges. Yeah, And again she would have taken she
would take a plea deal probably, and I'm not even
sure there'd be any you know, prison time attached to it.
And people get mad, we want to say that, but
that's the way it probably would have gone. But to
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get nothing, I mean no, no, not even like a
deferred prosecution agreement or anything. It's like, no big deal,
one hundred instances of classified I mean, it was a fix.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
The fix was in.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
And I still think even though the in theory, the
peril that Trump would face most significantly from a legal
perspective is South Florida, I still think the jury, the judge,
and the timing of that case is not going to
impact in a substantial way the presidential election. And I
(11:34):
also think in that one, in particular, Buck the partisans
are going to line up. However, the partisans line up.
I think the fact that Biden had classified docs too,
most people aren't going to go into the nitty gritty
and try to define which classified documents one guy had.
It's just kind of a pox on both their houses.
I think in the general sense, I don't think this
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one has the staying power as a result of what
Biden did.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
I also don't think there's any world in which the
judge in Florida. I agree with you, I don't think
that case is even going to happen before the election.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
I don't think the.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Judge in Florida would even you know, I don't know
the punishment. You know, she's not gonna lock Trump up. Okay,
that's not over the over the document stuff over over
effectively a paperwork dispute. That's not happening the judge in DC.
I think home confinement actually becomes a possibility, right.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
I mean these are the this.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Is I mean the legal system we have, when you
really break it down, just comes down to decisions people make.
You know, we like to think of it as this
you know, the justice system, but there are people making decisions.
They can decide to prosecute or not. They can decide
to lock you up or not. You know, it's a
lot of it's luck.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
Of the draw.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
I was buck out at Miami with a group of
donors to different Republican candidates, and one of those donors
said to me, and he's a super smart guy. He
looked around and he was like, with the way the
Department of Justice is going, I think they could come
after almost any Republican donor in the country. And this
(13:00):
I to try to charge him with a crime. It's like,
it's crazy.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
And that's the.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
World we've created where if you have the wrong political opinions,
you become a target the likes of which we've never
seen in the history of this country, certainly not in
any living memory of anyone out there.
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From the front lines of Truth. Clay Travis and Buck Sexton.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us. We roll through the
Friday edition of the program, so many different people out there,
moving in so many different directions, and with the holiday
season up on us in the near future here and
(15:13):
I wanted to mention Buck yesterday thanks for taking off
and run in with the show when I was doing
the Patriot Awards here in Nashville. Best moment of the
Awards show. I had not ever met these guys before.
The Nashville police officers who stormed into that school and
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killed the trans shooter and saved many lives in the
process were honored on the stage, justifiably so for their
bravery on that day. But I just want to keep
hammering this occasionally on this program because the fact that
we still have not seen the transhooter manifesto, and that
(15:55):
all of the anger seems to be coming down on
the fact that some of those pages of the trans
shooter manifesto were leaked. How in the world can we
have a legitimate conversation about how to protect schools.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
When they won't tell us the full.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
Motivation of the transshooter. I've been told by people that
I trust Buck that the reason she went to that
school was because she had surveilled multiple places and found
there to be less security there. That's what I've been
told by people I would trust. If that's true, wouldn't
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that be incredibly important to know that armed security at
schools directly dissuade even mentally ill people who are trying
to do harm to children from taking action to try
to do that, Because that's what I've been told. And
until we have the full fruition of understanding why she
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acted and why she attacked there, how in the world
can we make roundational decisions going forward. And look, I
give tremendous praise to those police officers who put their
lives on the line and took out this crazy transhooter.
But until we know her full motivation and why she
chose that location in particular to attack, I don't think
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we can make a rational response. And that's important for
public policy reasons and also for everyone else out there
who worries about what might happen to their kids while
they're at school, and the fact that's still not public
I think is frankly indefensible. Whether you're a Democrat, Republican
or an independent, this should all be out there and
we should all be discussing.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
It purely, purely political, purely political. Yeah, it's true, it's
really it's really upsetting.
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(18:07):
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Speaker 1 (18:43):
Clet Travis and Buck Sexton on the front lines of truth.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
Welcome back everybody.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
As you know, they have clean things up a bit
in San Francisco, which makes everyone ask the obvious question,
why didn't they just do this before? If cleaning things
up and making things nice and safe and getting rid
of the encampments and everything was something that could be
done quickly, why.
Speaker 4 (19:08):
Not just let that happen or do that right away?
Speaker 2 (19:11):
But they did it for Biden's meeting with Shi Jinping
the premiere. It's a nice way of saying the communist
dictator of China. But the continued deterioration in cities and
clay yesterday, you know that guy got found guilty who
attacked Pelosi's husband with the hammer, Yes, which was quite
(19:34):
a lapse in security at the Speaker's house, right, I mean,
there's like supposed to be a Capitol Hill police protection
and this guy just got into the house. And anyway,
but it goes to there are people that are a
danger to the public who are roaming the streets in cities,
and larger numbers than what we had seen pre COVID era.
I should I shouldn't say pre COVID ever, I'm sorry
(19:55):
about that PREVLM era because that's actually what the It
had nothing to do with COVID. Really, the change in
crime in the cities that had everything to do with BLM,
which just happened to be in the same era or
same year as COVID in twenty twenty. But you're seeing
this in a lot of cities. You're seeing the problems
play out. And this was interesting because one thing that
(20:16):
I think people need to be disabused of is the
notion play that it's a function of resources. If only
we had more resources in these cities. Now, resources matter.
I'm not going to pretun they don't. Of course, you
need policing. That's why defund police was so bad.
Speaker 4 (20:31):
But there's also a political will component to all of this.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
You see that in San Francisco, right they've decided we're
going to clean up the streets and get rid of
the encampments, and they do it. So there must be resources,
they just don't usually want to do it or don't
want to use them in that way. In Memphis, Tennessee,
Memphis has a very high violent crime rate.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
Unfortunately as a city.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
The police chief here said, well, i'll let you hear
what he had to say and why this is getting
some attention.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
Play eighteen.
Speaker 5 (21:00):
We had the entire United States Army here in the
city of Memphis. If we continue to see the same
individuals coming in crimes, you know, arresting a way out
of this is not possible.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Okay, Clai, this is the key. This is true in Memphis.
It's true in every city that's having a crime problem.
You speak to anyone in law enforcement, and the biggest
public safety issue that could be solved right away is
repeat offenders. Okay, that's or are that they are the
biggest threat. Repeat offenders meaning people who have been arrested.
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I'm not talking once or twice. That's the stuff that
we were all pollds that we could get into the
defund police era and BLM and all this stuff. Oh
somebody stole like a pair of socks and the three
strike law sent them away for twenty years, or they
had one you know, marijuana joint on them and they
you know, now their life is ruined. So we were
told to go, Okay, look, we want to be people
should get second chances, and people shouldn't be overly punished
(21:56):
for minor things where there's no We're talking about people
that have been arrested.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
For violent crimes dozens of times.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
We're talking about people that are clearly a menace to
public safety. And there's just been this decision that has
been embraced by the Democrat Party and Soros backed prosecutors
that we all have to just deal with this and
live with this. And I think people are starting to
slowly wake up, even in some of the Democrat cities.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
Yeah, there was an awful story out of Memphis that
did not get a lot of national attention. A doctor
who had recently moved to sat to Memphis to work
at the Saint Jude Hospital, and a lot of you
out there are familiar with the incredible work that Saint
Jude does for patients all over the country who are
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not able kids to get the cancer treatment or the
healthcare that they would otherwise be able and need to
be able to survive. They raised tens of millions of dollars.
I'm fortunate to have been a part of some of
the events that Sat Jude is involved in. A couple
of years ago, I was down for their big event
in Memphis, trying to help out a small amount that
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I could, and this doctor just I think moved to
Memphis six months ago. He was out with his baby,
newly born baby, and his wife for a walk in
a park and he was murdered. And this is emblematic.
We talked about the Gillian Ludwig I believe was her name,
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the Belmont University freshman in Nashville, who was just in
a park and she was shot by a serial felon
who should have never been on the streets, a random
act of violence. He wasn't even aiming at her, he
was just firing his gun and she ended up being
struck by a bullet. And these stories wherever you are
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listening to us right now, there is a story that
occurred in your hometown of someone who was one hundred
percent innocent, never did anything wrong at all, and they
were the victim of a violent crime, and almost with
one hundred percent certainty, the person who killed them should
have never been on the streets. Buck we talked about
(24:08):
was that last summer. I think Eliza Fletcher, the mother
who went for an early morning job and was murdered
on that early morning job. You have innocent people out
there being killed, and it's because instead of being behind bars,
all of these violent criminals who should have never been
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on the streets in the name of retributive social justice
and the idea that it's racist because too many criminals
are black. They're putting them right back out on the streets.
And overwhelmingly the people who bear the cost for that
are black, right, I mean, and there's huge percentages now
of people out there, white, Black, Asian, Hispanic. I did
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a deep dive on this. Everybody wants more cops and
less crime in their communities. But what this chief of
police in Memphis is saying, buck is even if you
had the whole army out there, if you arrest people
and immediately put him back on the streets, doesn't matter.
It's not a numbers game that could be helped.
Speaker 4 (25:09):
Right.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Well, this is I heard this when I was working
at the NYPD Intelligence Division. I would talk to some
of the cops who had been, you know, turning out
of various precincts for decades in some cases, and they
would talk about the battle days in New York in
the early nineties.
Speaker 4 (25:27):
That's actually when New York was that it's worst.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
People think of New York in the seventies and it
was kind of this dystopian urban healthscape of decay. But
actually nineteen ninety ninety one was really the worst that
ever was. And they would say that they would arrest people,
and they would it would be the you know, one
hundredth arrest, and like, what do we do. We're supposed
to get this guy a cake. I me, he's supposed
to celebrate that he hit you know, one hundred. This
is insane, And think about how demoralizing that is, because
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what it means is that the cops have got somebody.
They've arrested him. He's been arrested so many times. He's
clearly not changing his way, clearly does not care about law,
you know, it does not fear the consequences of law enforcement.
The prosecutors who are supposed to be processing this individual
and and you know, defending public safety are just like
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a you know, like a turnstile in the subway which.
Speaker 4 (26:17):
Nobody was paying for back in the day.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
And it's just the whole thing starts to collapse, and
ever starts to say, what am I really doing? When
you add to that that cops can be prosecuted and
and even you know, lose their freedom for doing their
jobs in good faith because there's a video that's taken
that shows them. You know, sometimes cops are going to
wrestle somebody to the concrete and like, that doesn't look
that doesn't look pretty.
Speaker 4 (26:40):
That's that's rough stuff. But that is part of law.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
Enforcement, especially when Buckett can be a thirty second video
that's part of a four minute, five minute interaction, and
they take the thirty seconds and try to make look
make it look like it is not in the larger
context in which it was occurring. And look, remember, was
it awful story? The guy who was murdered by Memphis
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police officers story vanished by the way, the guy who
if you were comparing the story of what was that
guy's name in Memphis, who who was clearly a victim
of police violence, beaten up by four or five different
black police officers in Memphis, you compare him to George Floyd,
and you were looking for someone who is actually the
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victim of police violence, and you wanted somebody to be
the face of it, it would have actually been him. The
problem was it was black police officers doing it to him.
So the story almost completely vanished. I think the trials
are coming up, but nobody's really covering it.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
Yeah, and meanwhile that not not only is Derek Schauvin's
trying to fight his his conviction on federal civil rights charges.
And you know, there's I had never seen this wory.
You know, there's a training his defense unless I'm unless
I'm misreading this. I saw this online. Found a training
slide of officers putting a knee on the sort of
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the shoulder neck area in that way to hold somebody down,
and that basically the department, Minneapolis department, at least, this
is part of the defense claim. Now that Minneapolis Department's like, oh, no,
we didn't teach that.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
Actually they did. Yeah, actually they were teaching.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
This as a restraint, and they just decided that that
wasn't that it was you know, misapplied in this case
or whatever the whatever it may be. And that George
Floyd died of heart failure, not of based on the
coroner's report, heart failure, not asphyxiation, yes, and had no
damage to his neck that would have been consistent with asphyxiation,
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and had a lethal amount offense FIEL in his system,
you know, And you talk about this and people started
to get very oh, they started to get very tense
and very uh oh I don't know. If you just
go online, you can read this yourself. And and Derek
Chauvin's get got twenty years in prison, his life, his life.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
I mean, Derek Chauvin was convicted because the jury was
afraid of what would.
Speaker 4 (28:53):
Happen if they didn't convict Derek Chauvin.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
I don't I don't think there's any doubt at all
about that, because implicit in the trial itself was the
threat of what violence would ensue if Derek Chauvin were
not held responsible. By the way, the Memphis individual who,
based on all the evidence, appears to have been totally innocent,
Tyree Nichols is his name, and the black police officers
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have been charged and we'll see what happens in those trials.
I believe one of them has already pled guilty and
the video is horrific. But because he was a victim
of black police violence, story vanished. If that had been
five white Memphis cops beating the crap out of Tyree Nichols,
would there would be statues of Tyree Nichols everywhere instead
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of George Floyd. There would have been riots for probably
a month all over the country. But because he was
a victim of black violent police officer behavior apparently based
on the video, just totally vanishes. But this has led
to further lawlessness all throughout Memphis. An innocent peace people, white, Black,
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Asian and Hispanic are bearing the brunt of those crimes.
I know a lot of people who have moved out
of Memphis. A lot of people who live in my
area of Tennessee are Memphis natives. You talk to them,
they say, if you have the ability to leave, you
try to leave, because if you've got a young family,
the worst thing that could happen is they become an
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innocent victim of violence, and you sit around for the
rest of your life saying, why did I stay here
when I could have taken my family somewhere safer, Which
is just an awful situation to be in. I want
to tell you all about. We did a show yesterday
the Patriot Awards. I spent a lot of time with
Frank Siller, and they have named now at the Patriot
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Awards a.
Speaker 4 (30:45):
Steven Siller Award for.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
Everybody out there who is trying to do good, whether
you're a police officer, whether you're a member of first responders,
whether you're an officer, in the military, whether you are
serving your whatever you're doing to try to make it
better for people out there. Frank Siller's trying to make
things better for you. And now his new push is
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to try to get as many homeless veterans off the
streets as he possibly can. And I gotta tell you,
I am blown away by how phenomenal the work that
Frank Siller and Tunnel to Towers is doing. More important
than ever as you see viral awfulness like the response
to Osama bin Laden's letter spread throughout Young America. It's
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more important than ever before to remind people what happened
twenty two years ago and what true evil is. And
we've got to continue to honor people like Bristol, Connecticut
police Sergeant Dustin Demanti. After responding to a domestic violence incident,
he sustained fatal gunshot wounds. He left behind his expectant
wife and two kids. Thanks to the generosity of people
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like you, Tunnel of the Towers paid the mortgage on
the Demante family home, lifting a financial burden. I got
to give you an update. You probably heard about the
trad gloss of life in the Mediterranean. Five different military
members believe it was a helicopter crash, lost their lives.
I was talking to Frank Siller. They've already tracked down
one of those individuals and his family. They had three
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that family in the first couple of days as they
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Speaker 3 (32:54):
Get the Holes with Bub Welcome back in Clay Travis
bock Sexton Show. So this is and I saw him
last night at the Patriot Awards. Did you know Raymond
de Royo was a singer to Buck, he's on very
frequently with Laura Ingram, does nice comedic segments. Fun guy,
he's got a book out. We're gonna talk with him
(33:16):
in the next hour. Did you know he's saying, I
had no idea that. An addition, he's a man of
many talents. He also sang, I just.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
Learned that myself. Sounds like he's got a very nice voice.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
So we're gonna have him on in the third hour
of the program to hang out and have a have
a little bit of fun there. But Buck, we're going
into Friday, maybe we'll also talk about this. You told
me that I had no idea. You sat down, he said,
I'm fired up about Cranberry sauce right now.
Speaker 4 (33:44):
Oh yeah, big time.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Interesting article in the Wall Street Journal on Cranberry's first
of all Cranberry sauce very polarizing. I was it's a
once a year thing. Why is that? Like what turkey
and cranberry sauce for most people like a whole roast turkey.
People saying, oh slight, yeah, okay, But in general, and
Clay is a cold cutskuy so he's probably a fan
of turkey and cheese, but correct. Nonetheless, in general, you
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only do the big turkey once a year, and you
do the cranberry sauce once year. You don't see a
cranberry sauce is a very seasonal item. It's like pumpkin
spice lattes. And what this article in the Wallsteront Journal
talked about is that ocean spray, which you may know
is the thing that makes like cranberry juice that you
drink as well as well as cranberry sauce.
Speaker 4 (34:29):
Is a farmer collective.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
From the northeast of the United States that's responsible for
like a vast majority of the cranberries out there. And
this has just been sort of a campaign for a
long time to expand cranberry into a year long fruit
and not just a once a year thing.
Speaker 4 (34:52):
And I'm wondering how you feel about that.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
I mean, this should cranberry like, why don't people put
cranberry in their cranberries in their smoothies. Why aren't people
just on cranberry sauce on their you know, I don't know,
on their lamb chops or something.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
I am all in on big cranberry.
Speaker 4 (35:08):
I got made fun of this. I like all of it.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
I eat crazins all the time I order cranberry juice regularly,
I might have the best urinary tract on the planet
as a result, because I think that's supposed to be
a strong urinary health tract. My understanding, because I'm buying
into the big cranberry propaganda, may not even be true.
I would eat cranberries. I would eat them, you know,
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every week. I'm totally fine with that. I don't know why.
This is just something that and I like the canned cranberries,
like the jelly cranberry that may not be very healthy
for you, I don't know, but I love that too.
I'm all in on cranberry. So if we need it,
if we need an endorsement buck, I will be. I
will beat a cranberry emissary to America.
Speaker 4 (35:52):
I do.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
I think it should expand out, you know. I think
that there's more use for cranberry. I like the tart
sweetness of it too, you know. I think it's some
more complex flavor.
Speaker 4 (36:01):
So people are gonna think that.
Speaker 3 (36:02):
You and I just got paid so much money by
cranberries to to come here full throated endorsement of.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
Everyone listening to this, I bet ninety ninety five percent
are gonna have cranberry sauce on the Thanksgiving True, it's
like a requirement.
Speaker 4 (36:15):
And it just kind of came out of nowhere.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
And why does it is a great question. Why there
are occasional foods. I mean peeps for instance, for Easter, right,
the little the little peak things show up, So that's
really a food. But yeah, sure, well yeah, but they
don't exist year round. What's the corn, the candy corn
or whatever, it doesn't exist. You're gonna go the t
February eggs. Why don't we know that's your hazier round.
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They're not exactly a health food, but delicious last hour
of the week. Next we're gonna make the world better.
Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Second hour Playing Buck kicks off right now, and I'm
having a bit of a deja vu moment, whereas Yogi
Berra said, played deja vu all over again, because Yogi
Berra had some good stuff.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
I don't think there's anybody who says anywhere near as
interesting of things as Oja as Yogi Berra used to
stay back in the day, right.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Yeah, yeah, he was solid and Yogi Berra. Shakespeare's some
great great minds out there, Seneca. But you know, I
I remember when Sankta Coomy James Comme, I just call
him Sanctacomy on radio. Now I just realized there's somebody
else that gets called the sanctimony word out there, thanks
to President Trump. But sank To Comby James Comy, the
(00:48):
FBI director and the you know, partisan, inside uh inside
baseball bureaucratic infighter.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
He stood before the America people in the twenty.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Sixteen election cycle, you recall, and he said, no prosecutor
would bring charges against Hillary Clinton for her classified documents,
but she was very careless, I think, was something like that,
something like that, That's what he said, and everyone sort
of took the moment. It's a whold on a second,
you're not the attorney general.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
Oh, that's right.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
The Attorney general was Loretta Lynch, who had just had
a happenstance secret tarmac meeting with Bill Clinton, wife of
presidential candidate Hillary Clinton.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
Believe it was in Arizona.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
There's the Secret Service details stayed away where they talked
about their grandchildren right before James COMI came forward.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Instead this in front of the whole country.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
We all remember that, right, that was over classified documents,
and that was over the person that the Democrats thought
was definitely going to be the next president of the
United States. In fact, you recall Hillary shared a photo
of herself on her birthday, Happy birthday to this next
to this future president or whatever, one.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Of the all time Racio destroyed tweets in yeah, mayor
that's that's what the kids call an L online for
a loss.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Yeah, that's she took the L on that one.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
But now we have this is why I'm saying it's
deja vu.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Biden is going to face this is the Wall Street
Journal quote face a face harsh criticism in classified document probe.
So they're gonna put out this. This special Counsel, Robert Herr,
is putting out a report and it's.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
Going to be a naughty, naughty Biden.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Uh you know, don't you You shouldn't have left the
classified by the corvette with Colonel Mustard and the candlestick
in the garage or whatever. You know, you shouldn't have
just left it out. That's not how we do things
with classified. But no one's actually facing any trouble of
any kind. I mean, remember now, you know, it's not
like you get twenty years in federal prison for this
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kind of thing. Well actually you could, depending on how
it went, but it's no one's even getting a suspension
of clear I mean, nothing's happened to anybody play involved
with this, certainly not Joe Biden in any capacity, And
it just sort of.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
Feels like, what was the point of this exactly?
Speaker 2 (03:09):
You know, remember when they appointed this special Council, I
think I said, I was like, well, nothing's going to happen,
and here we are.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
Nothing is happening.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Meanwhile, President Trump is facing a federal criminal case in
Florida over his clan that he's the president, he declassified,
he kept documents that he's allowed to keep because he's
president and they're.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
Still going forward with those charges. So what's going on?
Speaker 3 (03:33):
So I think, and I bet you agree with me,
and we've said this for a while, and I think
it's important. The biggest legal peril Trump faces is South
Florida classified document case. I think that the case in
New York City is total crap. The case in Atlanta
(03:55):
is mostly all BS and Jan six related charges from
Jack Smith are mostly trumped up garbage. But the case
on the classified documents front is more I would say,
open and shut in terms of what is and what
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is not and what was and what was not cap
Now there are defenses that can be made based on
presidential powers all those things. I'm not saying that those
aren't valid defenses. And I also think the jury is
far more likely in South Florida to be favorable to
Trump than certainly DC, Atlanta or New York City. And
I think he's got an Eileen Cannon, if I remember correctly,
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a judge who was seeking to actually apply the law
fairly and impartially as opposed to a left wing activist
in judicial robes, which I think it's fair to say
that we have in the other three cases Now, I thought,
as soon as Biden had his classified documents case of
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his own, and when all these facts came out, it
would be politically untenable to go after Trump for something
that Joe Biden did. They are not, it appears, going
to even worry about that. From a controversy perspective, they
don't care. I do think that the case in South
Florida is not going to be resolved before the twenty
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twenty four election. And I think if Trump wins, he's
going to be able to pardon himself. And no one
is really talking about this. If Biden won, I think
he might pardon Trump. And some of you are going
to say that's crazy. But once he's already beaten Trump twice,
then he can look like he's the magnanimous elder statesman.
And what does he really care if Trump is harmed
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politically by these investigations. I don't think from I'm curious.
I think from a political perspective, Biden believes that Trump
would be harmed by these charges, and therefore he wanted
them to occur in twenty twenty four, during an election year.
But if Biden one and were able to stay in
office until twenty twenty eight. Let's leave aside the health
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and everything else. Do you think he really cares that
much about Trump going to prison? I know the Democrat
base does. But Biden himself, if he were to win
the presidency again and be able to stay in office,
I don't get the sense that he is going to
be fire in Brimstone. Oh Trump walking about the key.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
I man, I can't even really go like, I don't
know if I can't go there intellectually or emotionally. But
I think that if Biden won four more years, is
a chance and Trump was still facing these federal charges, Yeah,
there's a chance that he would let the trials play out.
And I don't think he would pardon him. I think
he would commute any sentence, any punishment.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
So you kind of.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Agree what he would do. He's more focused. He would say,
for the good of the country and for his legacy.
And you know Trump's face the judgment, Yeah, the judgment
of the people has been cast down. Trump is a
convicted felon. I'm not erasing that, but you know, he's
not like under house arrest or anything. I mean, if
it came to that, which I don't think it will
come to that, But I'm just saying I think Biden
would probably commute any I think he'd let the conviction stand.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
Well. So what's interesting about all of that is these Alley.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
First of all, I think we're probably going to get
a written report from Robert Hurr, who is the independent
special counsel investigating the classified documents from Biden, that will
say that Biden, like you said, behaved rashly, he behaved inappropriately,
but he did it rise to the level of criminality
because there was no intent. That's what I suspect ultimately
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this independent council is going to do, and then he'll
try to clean it up and put a bow on it.
And then the Democrat political allies will use that written
report and the evidence that came out, and they will
try to make Trump's behavior look very different and egregious
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in comparison to what Biden did.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Well. The big challenge for that's what they're going to
try to do. The big challenge that they face is
the difference between presidential authority as it pertains to classified
and even the vice president, which is where Biden was
when some of these documents. I think maybe even was
a senator during some of the documents it depends, that'll
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be a major difference. And also I can just say
for people who have ever worked in the national security
side and held the clearance as I have, it's just
remarkable to see how politicians get away with all this stuff.
And if you're just somebody who is trying to serve
your country working for the bureaucracy, working at the CIA
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or the NSA or I don't know wherever FBI, where
you need a clearance, and you make even the most
minor mistake, it's like your career is over and they're
going to tell you you're a bad person.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
This is something that you would have nightmares about when
you were at the CIA, Like accidentally, Yes, if if
I had, if I thought, if I when I was
a CI officer, if you told me that they were
going to find multiple top secret documents like strewn about
my home and investigators wouldn't find those, I would have
a straight up panic attack and would be like, I
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need a really good attorney, right like.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
That would be my I don't know, I'd be freaking
out because it's not even rightfully so yeah, I wouldn't.
I wouldn't be getting the kid glove treatment here I'd
be treated like some kind of national security threat, as
any other low level government employee would.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Because most people, if you screw up at work, most people,
you don't face criminal charges.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
You you have to actively you have to actively do
something illegal to usually face criminal charges in your job.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
As opposed to just minor negligence, which I would look
at much of this as representing right, like negligence with
negligence with classified is still treated. I mean, if you're
intentionally violeting classified, they're gonna send you to prison for sure.
But even if you're negligent with classified, you can get
suspension of clearance, you can get fired, you could. And
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there is reck This was the big thing with Hillary.
There is a recklessness component to the statue. So Congress said, look,
it's okay even if you don't mean to.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
If you're carrying a briefcase home every day and you
happen to have like five classified documents in it because
you didn't check before he went home, and we find
all that stuff in your home, like, we may still
send you to prison. Yeah, that's that's what's actually in
the statue. That's why when Comy came, I'm sorry, Yeah,
Comy came forward and said nobody would charge Hillary. People
were like, she had one hundred classified emails on a
(10:40):
private server that she set up and had to know
that this was going on. He said, no reasonable prosecutor
would bring charges on this, right, And then there were
federal prosecutors all across the country or former federal prosecutors
who could speak out about this, saying I would have
brought charges. Yeah, And again she would have taken she
would take a plea deal probably, and I'm not even
sure there'd be any you know, prison time attached to it.
And people get mad, we want to say that, but
that's the way it probably would have gone. But to
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get nothing, I mean no, no, not even like a
deferred prosecution agreement or anything. It's like, no big deal,
one hundred instances of classified I mean, it was a fix.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
The fix was in.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
And I still think even though the in theory, the
peril that Trump would face most significantly from a legal
perspective is South Florida, I still think the jury, the judge,
and the timing of that case is not going to
impact in a substantial way the presidential election. And I
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also think in that one, in particular, Buck the partisans
are going to line up. However, the partisans line up.
I think the fact that Biden had classified docs too,
most people aren't going to go into the nitty gritty
and try to define which classified documents one guy had.
It's just kind of a pox on both their houses.
I think in the general sense, I don't think this
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one has the staying power as a result of what
Biden did.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
I also don't think there's any world in which the
judge in Florida. I agree with you, I don't think
that case is even going to happen before the election.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
I don't think the.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Judge in Florida would even you know, I don't know
the punishment. You know, she's not gonna lock Trump up. Okay,
that's not over the over the document stuff over over
effectively a paperwork dispute. That's not happening the judge in DC.
I think home confinement actually becomes a possibility, right.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
I mean these are the this.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Is I mean the legal system we have, when you
really break it down, just comes down to decisions people make.
You know, we like to think of it as this
you know, the justice system, but there are people making decisions.
They can decide to prosecute or not. They can decide
to lock you up or not. You know, it's a
lot of it's luck.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
Of the draw.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
I was buck out at Miami with a group of
donors to different Republican candidates, and one of those donors
said to me, and he's a super smart guy. He
looked around and he was like, with the way the
Department of Justice is going, I think they could come
after almost any Republican donor in the country. And this
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I to try to charge him with a crime. It's like,
it's crazy.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
And that's the.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
World we've created where if you have the wrong political opinions,
you become a target the likes of which we've never
seen in the history of this country, certainly not in
any living memory of anyone out there.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
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From the front lines of Truth. Clay Travis and Buck Sexton.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us. We roll through the
Friday edition of the program, so many different people out there,
moving in so many different directions, and with the holiday
season up on us in the near future here and
(15:13):
I wanted to mention Buck yesterday thanks for taking off
and run in with the show when I was doing
the Patriot Awards here in Nashville. Best moment of the
Awards show. I had not ever met these guys before.
The Nashville police officers who stormed into that school and
(15:34):
killed the trans shooter and saved many lives in the
process were honored on the stage, justifiably so for their
bravery on that day. But I just want to keep
hammering this occasionally on this program because the fact that
we still have not seen the transhooter manifesto, and that
(15:55):
all of the anger seems to be coming down on
the fact that some of those pages of the trans
shooter manifesto were leaked. How in the world can we
have a legitimate conversation about how to protect schools.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
When they won't tell us the full.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
Motivation of the transshooter. I've been told by people that
I trust Buck that the reason she went to that
school was because she had surveilled multiple places and found
there to be less security there. That's what I've been
told by people I would trust. If that's true, wouldn't
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that be incredibly important to know that armed security at
schools directly dissuade even mentally ill people who are trying
to do harm to children from taking action to try
to do that, Because that's what I've been told. And
until we have the full fruition of understanding why she
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acted and why she attacked there, how in the world
can we make roundational decisions going forward. And look, I
give tremendous praise to those police officers who put their
lives on the line and took out this crazy transhooter.
But until we know her full motivation and why she
chose that location in particular to attack, I don't think
(17:15):
we can make a rational response. And that's important for
public policy reasons and also for everyone else out there
who worries about what might happen to their kids while
they're at school, and the fact that's still not public
I think is frankly indefensible. Whether you're a Democrat, Republican
or an independent, this should all be out there and
we should all be discussing.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
It purely, purely political, purely political. Yeah, it's true, it's
really it's really upsetting.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
Someday soon, it's likely the Biden administration could introduce the
idea of a digital dollar replacing our currency system as
we know it. We're into former Wall Street insider Tikachuwari.
The government could announce a mandatory national recall on the
US dollar, and it could happen sometime this year. Tika
has exposed this government plan in an online video, and
(18:07):
he is showing you three steps that he believes you
need to take to prepare for this possibility that would
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Speaker 4 (18:48):
Welcome back everybody.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
As you know, they have clean things up a bit
in San Francisco, which makes everyone ask the obvious question,
why didn't they just do this before? If cleaning things
up and making things nice and safe and getting rid
of the encampments and everything was something that could be
done quickly, why.
Speaker 4 (19:08):
Not just let that happen or do that right away?
Speaker 2 (19:11):
But they did it for Biden's meeting with Shi Jinping
the premiere. It's a nice way of saying the communist
dictator of China. But the continued deterioration in cities and
clay yesterday, you know that guy got found guilty who
attacked Pelosi's husband with the hammer, Yes, which was quite
(19:34):
a lapse in security at the Speaker's house, right, I mean,
there's like supposed to be a Capitol Hill police protection
and this guy just got into the house. And anyway,
but it goes to there are people that are a
danger to the public who are roaming the streets in cities,
and larger numbers than what we had seen pre COVID era.
I should I shouldn't say pre COVID ever, I'm sorry
(19:55):
about that PREVLM era because that's actually what the It
had nothing to do with COVID. Really, the change in
crime in the cities that had everything to do with BLM,
which just happened to be in the same era or
same year as COVID in twenty twenty. But you're seeing
this in a lot of cities. You're seeing the problems
play out. And this was interesting because one thing that
(20:16):
I think people need to be disabused of is the
notion play that it's a function of resources. If only
we had more resources in these cities. Now, resources matter.
I'm not going to pretun they don't. Of course, you
need policing. That's why defund police was so bad.
Speaker 4 (20:31):
But there's also a political will component to all of this.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
You see that in San Francisco, right they've decided we're
going to clean up the streets and get rid of
the encampments, and they do it. So there must be resources,
they just don't usually want to do it or don't
want to use them in that way. In Memphis, Tennessee,
Memphis has a very high violent crime rate.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
Unfortunately as a city.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
The police chief here said, well, i'll let you hear
what he had to say and why this is getting
some attention.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
Play eighteen.
Speaker 5 (21:00):
We had the entire United States Army here in the
city of Memphis. If we continue to see the same
individuals coming in crimes, you know, arresting a way out
of this is not possible.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Okay, Clai, this is the key. This is true in Memphis.
It's true in every city that's having a crime problem.
You speak to anyone in law enforcement, and the biggest
public safety issue that could be solved right away is
repeat offenders. Okay, that's or are that they are the
biggest threat. Repeat offenders meaning people who have been arrested.
(21:35):
I'm not talking once or twice. That's the stuff that
we were all pollds that we could get into the
defund police era and BLM and all this stuff. Oh
somebody stole like a pair of socks and the three
strike law sent them away for twenty years, or they
had one you know, marijuana joint on them and they
you know, now their life is ruined. So we were
told to go, Okay, look, we want to be people
should get second chances, and people shouldn't be overly punished
(21:56):
for minor things where there's no We're talking about people
that have been arrested.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
For violent crimes dozens of times.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
We're talking about people that are clearly a menace to
public safety. And there's just been this decision that has
been embraced by the Democrat Party and Soros backed prosecutors
that we all have to just deal with this and
live with this. And I think people are starting to
slowly wake up, even in some of the Democrat cities.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
Yeah, there was an awful story out of Memphis that
did not get a lot of national attention. A doctor
who had recently moved to sat to Memphis to work
at the Saint Jude Hospital, and a lot of you
out there are familiar with the incredible work that Saint
Jude does for patients all over the country who are
(22:43):
not able kids to get the cancer treatment or the
healthcare that they would otherwise be able and need to
be able to survive. They raised tens of millions of dollars.
I'm fortunate to have been a part of some of
the events that Sat Jude is involved in. A couple
of years ago, I was down for their big event
in Memphis, trying to help out a small amount that
(23:05):
I could, and this doctor just I think moved to
Memphis six months ago. He was out with his baby,
newly born baby, and his wife for a walk in
a park and he was murdered. And this is emblematic.
We talked about the Gillian Ludwig I believe was her name,
(23:26):
the Belmont University freshman in Nashville, who was just in
a park and she was shot by a serial felon
who should have never been on the streets, a random
act of violence. He wasn't even aiming at her, he
was just firing his gun and she ended up being
struck by a bullet. And these stories wherever you are
(23:48):
listening to us right now, there is a story that
occurred in your hometown of someone who was one hundred
percent innocent, never did anything wrong at all, and they
were the victim of a violent crime, and almost with
one hundred percent certainty, the person who killed them should
have never been on the streets. Buck we talked about
(24:08):
was that last summer. I think Eliza Fletcher, the mother
who went for an early morning job and was murdered
on that early morning job. You have innocent people out
there being killed, and it's because instead of being behind bars,
all of these violent criminals who should have never been
(24:29):
on the streets in the name of retributive social justice
and the idea that it's racist because too many criminals
are black. They're putting them right back out on the streets.
And overwhelmingly the people who bear the cost for that
are black, right, I mean, and there's huge percentages now
of people out there, white, Black, Asian, Hispanic. I did
(24:51):
a deep dive on this. Everybody wants more cops and
less crime in their communities. But what this chief of
police in Memphis is saying, buck is even if you
had the whole army out there, if you arrest people
and immediately put him back on the streets, doesn't matter.
It's not a numbers game that could be helped.
Speaker 4 (25:09):
Right.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Well, this is I heard this when I was working
at the NYPD Intelligence Division. I would talk to some
of the cops who had been, you know, turning out
of various precincts for decades in some cases, and they
would talk about the battle days in New York in
the early nineties.
Speaker 4 (25:27):
That's actually when New York was that it's worst.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
People think of New York in the seventies and it
was kind of this dystopian urban healthscape of decay. But
actually nineteen ninety ninety one was really the worst that
ever was. And they would say that they would arrest people,
and they would it would be the you know, one
hundredth arrest, and like, what do we do. We're supposed
to get this guy a cake. I me, he's supposed
to celebrate that he hit you know, one hundred. This
is insane, And think about how demoralizing that is, because
(25:52):
what it means is that the cops have got somebody.
They've arrested him. He's been arrested so many times. He's
clearly not changing his way, clearly does not care about law,
you know, it does not fear the consequences of law enforcement.
The prosecutors who are supposed to be processing this individual
and and you know, defending public safety are just like
(26:15):
a you know, like a turnstile in the subway which.
Speaker 4 (26:17):
Nobody was paying for back in the day.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
And it's just the whole thing starts to collapse, and
ever starts to say, what am I really doing? When
you add to that that cops can be prosecuted and
and even you know, lose their freedom for doing their
jobs in good faith because there's a video that's taken
that shows them. You know, sometimes cops are going to
wrestle somebody to the concrete and like, that doesn't look
that doesn't look pretty.
Speaker 4 (26:40):
That's that's rough stuff. But that is part of law.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
Enforcement, especially when Buckett can be a thirty second video
that's part of a four minute, five minute interaction, and
they take the thirty seconds and try to make look
make it look like it is not in the larger
context in which it was occurring. And look, remember, was
it awful story? The guy who was murdered by Memphis
(27:03):
police officers story vanished by the way, the guy who
if you were comparing the story of what was that
guy's name in Memphis, who who was clearly a victim
of police violence, beaten up by four or five different
black police officers in Memphis, you compare him to George Floyd,
and you were looking for someone who is actually the
(27:27):
victim of police violence, and you wanted somebody to be
the face of it, it would have actually been him. The
problem was it was black police officers doing it to him.
So the story almost completely vanished. I think the trials
are coming up, but nobody's really covering it.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
Yeah, and meanwhile that not not only is Derek Schauvin's
trying to fight his his conviction on federal civil rights charges.
And you know, there's I had never seen this wory.
You know, there's a training his defense unless I'm unless
I'm misreading this. I saw this online. Found a training
slide of officers putting a knee on the sort of
(27:59):
the shoulder neck area in that way to hold somebody down,
and that basically the department, Minneapolis department, at least, this
is part of the defense claim. Now that Minneapolis Department's like, oh, no,
we didn't teach that.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
Actually they did. Yeah, actually they were teaching.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
This as a restraint, and they just decided that that
wasn't that it was you know, misapplied in this case
or whatever the whatever it may be. And that George
Floyd died of heart failure, not of based on the
coroner's report, heart failure, not asphyxiation, yes, and had no
damage to his neck that would have been consistent with asphyxiation,
(28:35):
and had a lethal amount offense FIEL in his system,
you know, And you talk about this and people started
to get very oh, they started to get very tense
and very uh oh I don't know. If you just
go online, you can read this yourself. And and Derek
Chauvin's get got twenty years in prison, his life, his life.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
I mean, Derek Chauvin was convicted because the jury was
afraid of what would.
Speaker 4 (28:53):
Happen if they didn't convict Derek Chauvin.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
I don't I don't think there's any doubt at all
about that, because implicit in the trial itself was the
threat of what violence would ensue if Derek Chauvin were
not held responsible. By the way, the Memphis individual who,
based on all the evidence, appears to have been totally innocent,
Tyree Nichols is his name, and the black police officers
(29:17):
have been charged and we'll see what happens in those trials.
I believe one of them has already pled guilty and
the video is horrific. But because he was a victim
of black police violence, story vanished. If that had been
five white Memphis cops beating the crap out of Tyree Nichols,
would there would be statues of Tyree Nichols everywhere instead
(29:39):
of George Floyd. There would have been riots for probably
a month all over the country. But because he was
a victim of black violent police officer behavior apparently based
on the video, just totally vanishes. But this has led
to further lawlessness all throughout Memphis. An innocent peace people, white, Black,
(30:00):
Asian and Hispanic are bearing the brunt of those crimes.
I know a lot of people who have moved out
of Memphis. A lot of people who live in my
area of Tennessee are Memphis natives. You talk to them,
they say, if you have the ability to leave, you
try to leave, because if you've got a young family,
the worst thing that could happen is they become an
(30:23):
innocent victim of violence, and you sit around for the
rest of your life saying, why did I stay here
when I could have taken my family somewhere safer, Which
is just an awful situation to be in. I want
to tell you all about. We did a show yesterday
the Patriot Awards. I spent a lot of time with
Frank Siller, and they have named now at the Patriot
(30:43):
Awards a.
Speaker 4 (30:45):
Steven Siller Award for.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
Everybody out there who is trying to do good, whether
you're a police officer, whether you're a member of first responders,
whether you're an officer, in the military, whether you are
serving your whatever you're doing to try to make it
better for people out there. Frank Siller's trying to make
things better for you. And now his new push is
(31:08):
to try to get as many homeless veterans off the
streets as he possibly can. And I gotta tell you,
I am blown away by how phenomenal the work that
Frank Siller and Tunnel to Towers is doing. More important
than ever as you see viral awfulness like the response
to Osama bin Laden's letter spread throughout Young America. It's
(31:32):
more important than ever before to remind people what happened
twenty two years ago and what true evil is. And
we've got to continue to honor people like Bristol, Connecticut
police Sergeant Dustin Demanti. After responding to a domestic violence incident,
he sustained fatal gunshot wounds. He left behind his expectant
wife and two kids. Thanks to the generosity of people
(31:52):
like you, Tunnel of the Towers paid the mortgage on
the Demante family home, lifting a financial burden. I got
to give you an update. You probably heard about the
trad gloss of life in the Mediterranean. Five different military
members believe it was a helicopter crash, lost their lives.
I was talking to Frank Siller. They've already tracked down
one of those individuals and his family. They had three
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young kids. Frank Siller's already paid the mortgage off for
that family in the first couple of days as they
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Speaker 3 (32:54):
Get the Holes with Bub Welcome back in Clay Travis
bock Sexton Show. So this is and I saw him
last night at the Patriot Awards. Did you know Raymond
de Royo was a singer to Buck, he's on very
frequently with Laura Ingram, does nice comedic segments. Fun guy,
he's got a book out. We're gonna talk with him
(33:16):
in the next hour. Did you know he's saying, I
had no idea that. An addition, he's a man of
many talents. He also sang, I just.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
Learned that myself. Sounds like he's got a very nice voice.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
So we're gonna have him on in the third hour
of the program to hang out and have a have
a little bit of fun there. But Buck, we're going
into Friday, maybe we'll also talk about this. You told
me that I had no idea. You sat down, he said,
I'm fired up about Cranberry sauce right now.
Speaker 4 (33:44):
Oh yeah, big time.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Interesting article in the Wall Street Journal on Cranberry's first
of all Cranberry sauce very polarizing. I was it's a
once a year thing. Why is that? Like what turkey
and cranberry sauce for most people like a whole roast turkey.
People saying, oh slight, yeah, okay, But in general, and
Clay is a cold cutskuy so he's probably a fan
of turkey and cheese, but correct. Nonetheless, in general, you
(34:08):
only do the big turkey once a year, and you
do the cranberry sauce once year. You don't see a
cranberry sauce is a very seasonal item. It's like pumpkin
spice lattes. And what this article in the Wallsteront Journal
talked about is that ocean spray, which you may know
is the thing that makes like cranberry juice that you
drink as well as well as cranberry sauce.
Speaker 4 (34:29):
Is a farmer collective.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
From the northeast of the United States that's responsible for
like a vast majority of the cranberries out there. And
this has just been sort of a campaign for a
long time to expand cranberry into a year long fruit
and not just a once a year thing.
Speaker 4 (34:52):
And I'm wondering how you feel about that.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
I mean, this should cranberry like, why don't people put
cranberry in their cranberries in their smoothies. Why aren't people
just on cranberry sauce on their you know, I don't know,
on their lamb chops or something.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
I am all in on big cranberry.
Speaker 4 (35:08):
I got made fun of this. I like all of it.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
I eat crazins all the time I order cranberry juice regularly,
I might have the best urinary tract on the planet
as a result, because I think that's supposed to be
a strong urinary health tract. My understanding, because I'm buying
into the big cranberry propaganda, may not even be true.
I would eat cranberries. I would eat them, you know,
(35:32):
every week. I'm totally fine with that. I don't know why.
This is just something that and I like the canned cranberries,
like the jelly cranberry that may not be very healthy
for you, I don't know, but I love that too.
I'm all in on cranberry. So if we need it,
if we need an endorsement buck, I will be. I
will beat a cranberry emissary to America.
Speaker 4 (35:52):
I do.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
I think it should expand out, you know. I think
that there's more use for cranberry. I like the tart
sweetness of it too, you know. I think it's some
more complex flavor.
Speaker 4 (36:01):
So people are gonna think that.
Speaker 3 (36:02):
You and I just got paid so much money by
cranberries to to come here full throated endorsement of.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
Everyone listening to this, I bet ninety ninety five percent
are gonna have cranberry sauce on the Thanksgiving True, it's
like a requirement.
Speaker 4 (36:15):
And it just kind of came out of nowhere.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
And why does it is a great question. Why there
are occasional foods. I mean peeps for instance, for Easter, right,
the little the little peak things show up, So that's
really a food. But yeah, sure, well yeah, but they
don't exist year round. What's the corn, the candy corn
or whatever, it doesn't exist. You're gonna go the t
February eggs. Why don't we know that's your hazier round.
(36:38):
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