June 7, 2023 • 37 mins
Florida Congresswoman Anna Paulina Luna joined Buck to blast the FBI for hiding credible Biden bribe allegations, says we won't get real accountability until we elect a GOP president. Former VP Mike Pence presidential announcement joined in progress. CNN dumps CEO Chris Licht. Trump broke CNN not once, but twice. Are UFOs out there? Buck doesn't think so. Smog from Canadian wildfires makes NYC look apocalyptic. Buck takes calls on Mike Pence.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast.
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Speaker 3 (00:11):
It's The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. We're taking
off the second hour of Playing Buck right now, and
we're about to talk about the allegations against Joe Biden,
Hunter Biden, the Biden family, an FBI source, an FBI whistleblower,
and more. Representative Annapolina Luna of Florida is with us. Congresswoman,
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appreciate you being here and thanks for making the time.
Tell us we haven't talked about this yet on the show,
so I need you to set this up for everybody
a little bit. What is going on with the House
looking into bribery allegations, the whistleblower and Biden.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
Oh my gosh, it's I don't know if we have
enough time but to kind of chalk it up in
a nutshell long story show or the House Oversight Committee
has been working to collect evidence to prove that this administration,
this family, and Joe Biden specifically has indeed been guilty
of public corruption. And we've found that we had recently
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just a couple of weeks ago, subpoenaed bank records from
four different banks of about twenty that we suspect, where
we found that the Biden family was receiving money from
foreign nationals, basically using and selling the Biden name in
order to personally enrich themselves, and they moved these funds
between twenty companies. So that comes a couple of weeks ago,
and then this week, Representative Comber had requested a document
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from the FBI that basically outlined and proved that Biden,
as Vice president in the Obama administration, had received a
five million dollar transfer from a foreign national and an
effort to sway American policy. And ultimately what ended up
happening is the SBI not only refused to hand over
this document it's not a classic document, but then they
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also too said that their own source, who has been
a human source with the FBI for over ten years,
very credible. They've even paid this source over six figures
for the information that they have that they were and
they had credible fears that if this individual was unmasked
to Representative Comer and Oversight, that they had credible fears
that this person would be killed.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
So the allegation. I mean, do we know any of
the specifics, Congresswoman, about what was there, what the quid
pro quo was. I mean, we you know, what level
of detail have we been able to get about what
this FBI source was alleging.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
What we do know is that this individual has proof
that there's a five million dollar bank transaction that at
the time Vice President Biden received for his word to
influence American foreign policy. And what I can tell you
is that we've been trying very hard to get this
document and that the SBI has own wall dust. That's
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actually part of the reason why we are now tomorrow
meeting to work on the markup for the bill to
actually hold the director of the FBI in content of Congress.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Now, holding the FBI director and contempt wouldn't result in
any actual legal action against him because the DOJ is Biden, right,
So that's not really going to change anything. Why isn't
the FBI sharing information with Congress on an overside committee.
I mean, I remember from back in the CIA days,
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what the overside committee wants the overside committee is supposed
to get.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
That's a question that we're all asking and in my opinion,
Buck just based on what I've witnessed, what I've heard,
and what I've personally seen over the last couple of
months as being in office, the SBI has some serious issues.
I mean, they have a goal right now that's currently
leaking information to Hunter Biden about his own case that
the FBI is investigating. So I think that we're at
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the point now where, you know, the Republican Party, although
we don't control Senate or the White House, we do
control the House, and you know, there has to be
some peece behind a lot of what's happening, because exactly
like you had mentioned, you know, these three letter agencies
seem to think that they're not held accountable to anyone,
and really the last line of defense for the American
people is Congress, and so they need to be held accountable.
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We need to be subpoenaing all this information, and so
Representative Comer has been doing a good job on with
the help of Representative Jim Jordan, who's head of House Judiciary.
But right now, I mean, the more information that we
put out buck even just on those bank transactions that
I had outlined earlier. I mean, MSNBC, CNN, and ABC
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refused to even cover it. It was only Fox News
that was covering it, so they're really trying to suppress
this information. In my opinion, the corporate establishment media is
working with the DNC and some of these three letter
agencies to runcover for Biden.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Speaking to Congressoman Ana Paulina Luna of Florida and Congressoman
Hunter Biden, Clay and I talked about this a lot.
He still thinks that they may drop real charges, not
some deferred prosecution, pays a fine, make the whole thing
go away, but that there'll be a real charge against
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Hunter Biden based on what you're seeing, the information that
you've seen already. Do you think that's possible? And also,
how could there not be unless the system is corrupt?
I think that's the question A lot of people are
asking him. If you get paid millions of dollars you
don't declare you don't pay taxes on it. I thought
that was kind of a big problem.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
It is a big problem, and I don't think that
we will have any charges brought until you know, we
have a new Republican president. And unfortunately, that's what it's
coming down to. Because many of these people that are
appointed are indeed appointed because of their political leanings and
support of that administration. And right now, exactly like you
had stated, I mean, there's so much information on Hunter Biden,
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and yet they're refusing to act. Just like the SBI
had this information about Joe Biden, and they've had had
it since twenty sixteen previously, and they chose to sad
on that they had it in twenty twenty. They chose
to stad on it and they're not doing anything with it.
So they have the evidence, they have the testimony of
people that are bringing it forward of not just the
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human source, but there's multiple whistleblowers that have come forward
about the Biden family and about Joe Biden specifically. And
it's really interesting because one of our best whistle blowers
that actually had proof that Joe Biden and his family
was receiving illegal basically pay for play schemes, the dj
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is now trying to charge as an illegal arms trafficker,
even though he's never sold or tried to broker any
deals with any for organizations for arms. So they are,
in my opinion, using their position to not just intimidate,
but to prevent people from coming forward with the threat
of ruining their lives.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
How do we get any accountability in the FBI? If
people ask me this question, Congresswoman, and they'll ask, usually
in the context of the Intel community CIA, and I say, look,
you'd have to have leadership that would understand the institution
well enough that they would know how to change the culture.
But you'd also have to get rid of a lot
of people, a lot of programs, and cut a lot
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of funding. Do you think there's stomach for that in
the next in the next Republican administration? You think that
from what you're hearing from some of your fellow members
of Congress on the Republican side, at least there would
be a willingness to do something about that. I mean,
I remember when Eric Holder was held in contempt when
he was Attorney General, right, I mean, you know, we
do what we can, but that's not going to change
that much.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
Christ I think that it really depends on who the
president is. You know, in my opinion, we need a
fire breathing dragon who is really aggressive on foreign policy
and wants to actually, you know, do the right thing
and help end some of this corruption. I exactly like
you'd stated, you know, I think people in general, I'm
I'm frustrated. I know people are as well, because it's like, well,
we know this is happening, but like, what's going to change?
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And it's kind of, you know, it feels like sometimes
a defeated perspective because it's just agreed tous what they're doing.
But you know, I think it's gonna really depends on
what happens next administration. I'm sure you saw what happened
with the debt negotiations, and I think and I voted
no against raising the debt ceiling for trillion because again,
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like you had stated, cutting funding is a huge deal,
and yet it didn't seem like there was as aggressive
action towards some of these three letter agencies that could
have been there. And so I think that it is
people one holding your representatives accountable because it does matter.
You do have a voice, and your representatives will respond,
especially if people are calling in, you know, But also too,
it does depend on leadership, and that's why I think
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twenty twenty four is gonna be so important.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
What do you think is the most important issue or too,
that the Republican Congress under Speaker McCarthy's leadership can realistically
achieve between now and election day.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
Well, I thought the first one was everything with the
debt ceiling, and that's kind of gone to pass. But
I think it's really going to be using these hearings
to hold people accountable. I would love to see an
impeachment of my orcists and some of these bureaucrauts have
their positions completely defunded, which is something that we can
do under the Wholden Rule. So I think that that's
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really going to be something that you know, we're a
very slim majority, and it's projected. I think just kind
of with everything happening with members stepping down and whatnot,
that we'll probably have like a three person majority by September,
and so every single Republican in this conference is really
going to have to work together and have their voices
be heard, otherwise we won't get anything done. But it
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is going to be interesting to kind of see, you know,
we are. I've never been so happy to have the
founding fathers engineer our country the way that they did
with the checks and balances, But I am so happy
that we're at least in the majority right now because
we can stop a lot of the bad legislation that
this administration is trying to push through.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Florida Representative Anna Paulina Luda, Congresswoman, thanks for being with us. Appreciated.
I always want to call her Anna, but you know, Congresswoman,
thank you, thank you very much. So here here we go.
We have more information about the Biden crime family, but
we keep running into this roadblock. I feel the frustration
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that a lot of you have. And as I said,
when I was seeing some of our listeners out in
Saint Louis last night and they were asking me questions
on stage, and then, you know, after after we did
our our live event, and I look at them and
they ask these questions, and I say, I hope we
can change it. I don't know, because I'm not going
(10:40):
to say, oh, yeah, everything's gonna be fine. You know,
the three letter agencies there, they've learned their lesson. They
haven't learned their lesson, they haven't changed. All they thought
they had to do was waited out under Trump. It's
one of the most true things that I ever heard
about the State Department specifically. It's a it's a joke,
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but I think it's really more a mission statement than
a joke, which is that presidents come and go, but
the State Department is forever. It's what the bureaucrats there say.
I don't know, I don't know what jokes they make
about the CIA. They're probably very funny too. But point
here is nothing changed, nothing changed in those institutions, not really,
not at all. And these are areas of our civic
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life where there has to be some degree of good
faith in operation. This is why prosecutors and the Soros
backed prosecutors, and the concerted effort by Democrats to undo
the rule of law in these cities is so destructive
because there's not a lot you can do. When a
prosecutor decides that he's not going to or she's not
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going to enforce the law, you can vote them out.
And this is really what we're talking about here. Well, okay,
you can achieve political power to try some reforms, but
in the case of a three letter agency, it's more
than one individual that's the problem. It's not just one
Sorow's prosecutor. It's an army of them, so to speak,
that are embedded in these places, and not just not
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just the you know, the famous or the most famous
of these three letter agencies, c I, A, FBI. You know,
they're in the EPA, they're in DHS, they're they're all
over the place. They're in a whole range of these institutions,
and how do we clean things up? How do we
make things better in them? And I get asked this question,
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I say, you would have to have a Congress and
an executive that was willing to do things that would
be unpopular with some folks in the moment. Oh my gosh,
look what you're doing. There's a there's a old again,
another old joke, but the fireman first strategy. You might
have heard of this before. It's whether you're gonna cut
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municipal funding. You see variations of this all over the country.
The second you say, hey, can we can we cut
this program of that program says, oh no, you're you're
that's gonna result. You're gonna you're cutting the fire department,
You're cutting the police department. Right, Oh no, you can't
do that. None of us are gonna be safe. You
see this with the budget negotiations too. Every dollar of
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additional spending beyond the preset spending is sacred. That's the
approach the Democrats take. It's it's maniacal, but it's effective.
So you would have to come in and say we
are going to We're gonna cut FBI funding, cut IRS funding. Democrats,
as you've noticed, they want to massively increase IRS funding.
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That is not an accident, that's not incidental because the
funding of the IRS, to make it the tax stazi
serves multiple purposes for them. They use it as a
weapon against their enemies all of a sudden, you know,
people are gonna get audited, who are I don't know,
talk radio hosts, stuff like that. And also pushing for
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even more revenue for an over tax population, and pushing
even more revenue out of the fifty percent of the
population that pays all of the taxes. That's the plant.
That's what they're doing right now. Eight hundred two eight
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Speaker 3 (17:24):
Okay, you get the idea. Is kind of the basic
stump speech stuff. I am curious. I mean, I really
mean this. I am curious. Do any of you listening
entertain in your mind the possibility that you would vote
for Mike Pence or president in this Republican primary. I'm
not saying up against Biden. I'm saying, is Pence your guy?
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If so, why? And I just want to know. We've
had VIVEK people call in, who are all in on Vivek.
I don't think we've had any Nikki Haley all in
team me. If that's wrong. I don't think she's going
to be joining us on Tuesday. But there's got to
be some right I think it. He's got some poll numbers.
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I've got to check those. We'll take a dive into this.
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about the continued collapse, the ongoing freefall, because it's freefall.
CNN having a rough time as it deserves to. It
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really disgraced itself during the Trump administration. The egos over there,
starting with Zucker the ousted head of CNN, who was
conducting a long time affair with his number two at CNN.
Sure got you the job. There was no favoritism there
at all. But you will recall they never could get
(19:55):
over being called fake news. They never could get past
the ego blow of Trump saying what was just true.
I always also like to remind everybody that the usage
of fake news as a term by Trump was response
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a response to what the Democrats were doing. Democrats were
to undermine the MAGA voters of twenty sixteen saying they
believe fake news online, as in, you know, stories about
you know, Hillary is actually a lizard person from outer space. Oh. Also,
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do we want to talk UFOs today or later this week?
I'm just putting that out. I'm sitting here and I'm
open to anything. I'm open to anything that has evidence.
And some people I really like and trust and I
think are very smart, are big UFO believers, and I
need someone we need to we need to get somebody
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on here who could you just may be so where
are we with this? Exactly? The UFO thing? Anyway, We'll
talk more about that, but back to I'm just putting
that out there because I'm with you, solo for the
next couple of days. Clay's on a couple's retreat. He's
with the missus and some friends, and he's taken some
days off to rest recoup, and they'll be back in
(21:21):
action with us on Monday. So I'm gonna be with
you a few days. I think we should talk about
UFOs a little bit. It's getting all this attention. I
sit here as a Hey, team, was it Molder or Scully?
Who was the skeptic? I never watched enough of the
X Files. I should probably go back Scully. So I'm
is that the Is that the lady? I'm apparently you know,
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breaking news? I'm the lady here. Yeah, I'm Scully. I'm
Scully in this one. I don't see the UFO thing.
I don't know. I will tell you this. I don't
know if my family's listening to this at all. My
family is split on this one. My immediate family were
split on this one. There are a couple of skeptics,
and there are some there are some Molders, there are
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some true believers about the UFO thing. And I sit
here and I go, what am I missing? You know?
If it make the Little Flying Saucer appear somewhere, and
I don't even care if little green men get out
or if it's even just like Amiba's under a microscope.
But just show me the show me the UFO. And
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some of you are probably thinking I'm crazy because there's
all the dots on the screens and stuff, and others
you think, yeah, of course, Buck, It's amazing, isn't it.
This debate that we're having over a UFOs. Because right
there's a guy who came forward, Oh yeah, producer Rally
telling me, in New York City, the sky because of
the fires in forest fires in Canada, the air quality
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in New York City is the worst in the whole country.
Right now, I'll tell you when I was in China
back in twenty nineteen, so right before the I was
in I was in China right before the pandemic, and
I was there for I don't know a week. We
can change and you'd see the the pollution. I was
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in Shanghai, and the whole sky and everything from just
the pollution gathered. It was really dystopian, unsettling, and I
thought a lot about China was very dystopian. I'll just
add that I thought this is not gonna this is
not heading to a happy place everybody. But that's not
a surprise. But New York City's what's up?
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (23:31):
Oh Pence? So what I'm pretty sure Mike is saying,
all hell's breaking loose because Pence Pence has announced. So
now you know the skies. It is a little bit
like in Ghostbusters, right when the skies turned like was
it purple or something? And because the key Master and
Gozer and all that, So Pence is Pence has announced.
We played some of that announcement for you see it.
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Oh we do. If you're a Pence. We have some
Pence people who have called in. Please stay with me.
I will get you. I just want to talk about
the CNN thing for a second, because I know there
have to be some Pence people out there. I also
note that there are a fair amount of they are
a fair amount of people that seem really really anti Pence.
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I would like to hear from them too. I'm Republicans,
so I know, I know there are people that think
Mike Pence is great and he's their candidate, and some
of them have already called in. So we've we've got
we've got proof of life on that one. Right, we
know they exist. And I also I am curious to
hear for anyone who feels very strongly against Mike Pence
because I would guess that for a lot of the
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GOP base right now and for a lot of you.
This is my guest. I could I could be off.
Pence is just not the guy for the moment, and
so him running, you know, you think it's going to
be a little bit like Nikky Haley running or you know,
you're not deeply anti and you're not pro you're just
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kinda meh whatever about it. That's my guess. I could
be wrong. So that's why I put it out to you,
and I want to know. But back to CNN in
the fake news controversy from the very beginning, so they
were saying fake news. Trump turned it around on them,
and he really forced a journalistic self immolation over at CNN.
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I mean, they just did they They lit their own
building on fire. They destroyed it as a as a temple,
as a monolith of supposed journalism. CNN was gone. It
turned into remember Jim Acosta and although oh he wasn't.
He lost his White House hard pass. Oh, the First
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Amendment is dead. Jim Acosta has to show an ID
and check in before he gets access to the West Wing,
which a lot of people don't have access to. But
you know the whole thing, right, And and you saw
all these different hosts who were supposedly giving you the news,
who were really just boring opinion hosts reading off a
prompter who don't have much to say other than Trump
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is Hitler. Well that in the post Trump era predictably
resulted in the professional defenestration of a number of senior
CNN figures. No most don't bleek Jeff Zucker and then
Chris Cuomo. Bro Cuomo was like, hey, like, what do
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you mean I can't advise my brother. No, not when
you're going to be reporting on your brother and doing
interviews with him at night. That's and not telling the
audience about it. That that could be kind of an issue.
Thank you. Defenestration want to go with that as word
of the day, crazy historical fact defenestration of Prague. You
know those guys lived. I'm pretty sure it was because
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there was a manure cart under the window something like that.
Someone could fact check me on that one. But the
guys who were defenestrated, which then led to massive warfare
throughout Europe. But they lived that even though they were
thrown out the window. So CNN had this whole problem,
and it was because Trump broke them. I mean, he
just spiritually emotionally defeated CNN as an entity that is
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I think beyond dispute at this point, because to go
against him, they decided that there were no rules and
they exposed to every They exposed themselves for everyone to
see as abject partisan hacks. Okay, that is CNN destruction
number one. CNN then tried to limp along and do
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a redo with this guy, Chris licked the big piece
in The Atlantic, which if you want to know what
b minus students from northeastern lib schools and coastal coastal universities.
If you want to know what they read or pretend
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to read, it's The Atlantic. They read one article from
it once a month, maybe second and say, I read
the Atlantic. But I did read the Atlantic, so I'm
admitting that to all of you. So I could read
this article and it was a big profile with a
lot of access to the head of CNN. And what
was interesting was that, first off, it makes clear CNN
destruction two point zero was you guessed it, Trump's town hall,
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the Trump town Hall. They just lost their minds over there,
all the different anchors, they're all crying about it and
how could we have platformed them, and the fact that
you had all these pro Trump people in the audience
and Caitlyn Collins get steamrolled the whole thing, and so
much so that he Chris licked this guy who came
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over from he was at Morning Joe, and then he
was at the Cold No, not the Colbert what's the
Late Show with Colbert?
Speaker 5 (28:50):
Whatever?
Speaker 3 (28:50):
That is, right, Stephen Colbert Show. And then he moved
over to take over CNN. It didn't last much more
than a year. This is why he didn't last though
this I don't know. I don't know this guy never.
I never talked to him. I talked to Jeff Zucker
a bunch of times when I was over as a
contributor at CNN before I realized they had all completely
lost their minds and hated Republicans and any Republican in
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the Trump era who still was going on CNN. I
was like, you're just getting You're just getting punched in
the face. There's no point. The audience hates you. They're
not listening. The anchors hate you, they all despise you.
So that's I turned down a job at CNN without
a job in TV because Trump had just won the election.
They wanted me to stay around, and I said no,
I'd rather just do my own thing, thank you. Because
(29:35):
I was pro Trump. I voted for him. I was
so psyched that he had won. And I was like,
I don't I don't want to go on CNN so
they can be like, so like explain to us, like
why you think that, like voting for Hitler is not
voting for Hitler. You know, I just didn't really need
that in my day to day. But Chris Slick, this
guy ended up sounding not that crazy. Here's from the article.
(29:58):
I think he's a lib, but he's not to saying.
He said, apparently to CNN staff, do not virtue signal,
tell the truth, ask questions, getting at the truth, not
collecting facts for one side or collecting facts for another side.
Ask the tough questions. It's an incredibly sensitive, divisive issue
of when there's a ven diagram the country can agree
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on if we get there with the facts. Yeah, this
guy is gone because he showed up at CNN, and
he was like, everybody knows. Did this place turn into
a laughing stock and a partisan, you know, clown show?
Can we at least get back to some basic reality?
And CNN, with its collective Biden voting Hillary and Obama
(30:43):
loving voice, shouted out, no, we shall not return to
the facts, sir, you shall be fired. So that's what
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Terry in Texas, Terry, you like Pence? Tell me about it,
hy bug.
Speaker 7 (33:20):
I love Mike Pence. I think he's a great stand
up Christian man with good morals. But I have a
lot of Republican friends that are leading Democrat because of
the whole abortion thing, and I truly think he would
be a wasted vote.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
So you you like Pence a lot, but you think
because he's too pro life effectively, he's politically not not
able to win. Is that? Is that what you're what
you're feeling?
Speaker 7 (33:49):
I think right now because all this just happened and
just came down recently. Yeah, it's not a good time, gotcha.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
Yeah, thank you? You know, Terry, I would tell you
to listen to. I spoke to Lyla Rose, who is
a pro life activist and she joined on the podcast stream.
So if you subscribe the claim BUK podcast, it's right
there you could listen because she is very She is
vociferous in her defense of the idea that the pro
(34:18):
life position can win nationally and is more popular than
the media wants you to believe. I do think it's
you got to go place by place, state by state,
look at the numbers, and it's on the issue of
on the issue of the Thank you for calling in terry.
On the issue of morality, I don't think it's complicated
at all. I think it's clear that you want to
save as many babies as as possible on the issue
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of what can win, just the pure politics of it.
I hear smart people on both sides that have differing
differing views. On the right I'm talking at obviously on
the left, it's abortion, all nine months of a pregnancy abortion.
You know they they take it to the absolute extreme.
And that's a position of the Democrat Party, is it.
(35:01):
Nyla in San Antonio? Did I get that right?
Speaker 7 (35:05):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (35:05):
You did, Nila. What have you got for us about
mister Pence.
Speaker 5 (35:10):
Well, I would vote for him simply because of what
your previous color had said, because of his morality. But
morality isn't just whether you're pro abortion or not. It's
whether you lie, whether your word is good. And as
good as Trump was for the country, he's got the
(35:31):
morals of a gutter snip. I just which we had
more morality in general?
Speaker 3 (35:38):
In Nyla, thank you so much for sharing that. I
appreciate you calling in. I would say this, everything I've
interviewed Pence, I don't know a couple of times I
don't know him. Beyond that, I mean, I've spent time
with Frump, like talk to him and around him. You know,
I spent a fair amount of time with him over
the years. I really haven't spent my time with Pence
(36:01):
everything that he has done, though in my personal interactions
with him would support that he seems to be a
very decent man. So now does that mean that he's
the guy for this moment? I think a lot of
people would argue that you need you know, you need
a brawler for this moment given what the other side
(36:23):
has arrayed against us. And then there are others who
would say, well, you need somebody who's more precise. You know,
you don't want someone who's swinging a sledgehammer. You want
somebody who's taking a scalpel to the problem. And this
is why we have a primary. Isn't it great We
all get to see how this plays out. We can
talk about it. But I'm happy to hear or I
appreciate I should say that people called in and had
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thoughts about Mike Pence right away, and it seems like
we've got a lot of people feel very positively about
him in the audience, and I can understand. I understand
why we had mentioned the I always say weak because
even if it plays out for the day, it still
feels like it's a week. The crime situation in New York,
suing over cars being too easy to steal, suing the
(37:05):
car maker. Let's talk about that on some other criminal
justice news and more coming up in a third hour
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It's The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. We're taking
off the second hour of Playing Buck right now, and
we're about to talk about the allegations against Joe Biden,
Hunter Biden, the Biden family, an FBI source, an FBI whistleblower,
and more. Representative Annapolina Luna of Florida is with us. Congresswoman,
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appreciate you being here and thanks for making the time.
Tell us we haven't talked about this yet on the show,
so I need you to set this up for everybody
a little bit. What is going on with the House
looking into bribery allegations, the whistleblower and Biden.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
Oh my gosh, it's I don't know if we have
enough time but to kind of chalk it up in
a nutshell long story show or the House Oversight Committee
has been working to collect evidence to prove that this administration,
this family, and Joe Biden specifically has indeed been guilty
of public corruption. And we've found that we had recently
(01:14):
just a couple of weeks ago, subpoenaed bank records from
four different banks of about twenty that we suspect, where
we found that the Biden family was receiving money from
foreign nationals, basically using and selling the Biden name in
order to personally enrich themselves, and they moved these funds
between twenty companies. So that comes a couple of weeks ago,
and then this week, Representative Comber had requested a document
(01:38):
from the FBI that basically outlined and proved that Biden,
as Vice president in the Obama administration, had received a
five million dollar transfer from a foreign national and an
effort to sway American policy. And ultimately what ended up
happening is the SBI not only refused to hand over
this document it's not a classic document, but then they
(02:01):
also too said that their own source, who has been
a human source with the FBI for over ten years,
very credible. They've even paid this source over six figures
for the information that they have that they were and
they had credible fears that if this individual was unmasked
to Representative Comer and Oversight, that they had credible fears
that this person would be killed.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
So the allegation. I mean, do we know any of
the specifics, Congresswoman, about what was there, what the quid
pro quo was. I mean, we you know, what level
of detail have we been able to get about what
this FBI source was alleging.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
What we do know is that this individual has proof
that there's a five million dollar bank transaction that at
the time Vice President Biden received for his word to
influence American foreign policy. And what I can tell you
is that we've been trying very hard to get this
document and that the SBI has own wall dust. That's
(03:01):
actually part of the reason why we are now tomorrow
meeting to work on the markup for the bill to
actually hold the director of the FBI in content of Congress.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Now, holding the FBI director and contempt wouldn't result in
any actual legal action against him because the DOJ is Biden, right,
So that's not really going to change anything. Why isn't
the FBI sharing information with Congress on an overside committee.
I mean, I remember from back in the CIA days,
(03:33):
what the overside committee wants the overside committee is supposed
to get.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
That's a question that we're all asking and in my opinion,
Buck just based on what I've witnessed, what I've heard,
and what I've personally seen over the last couple of
months as being in office, the SBI has some serious issues.
I mean, they have a goal right now that's currently
leaking information to Hunter Biden about his own case that
the FBI is investigating. So I think that we're at
(03:58):
the point now where, you know, the Republican Party, although
we don't control Senate or the White House, we do
control the House, and you know, there has to be
some peece behind a lot of what's happening, because exactly
like you had mentioned, you know, these three letter agencies
seem to think that they're not held accountable to anyone,
and really the last line of defense for the American
people is Congress, and so they need to be held accountable.
(04:20):
We need to be subpoenaing all this information, and so
Representative Comer has been doing a good job on with
the help of Representative Jim Jordan, who's head of House Judiciary.
But right now, I mean, the more information that we
put out buck even just on those bank transactions that
I had outlined earlier. I mean, MSNBC, CNN, and ABC
(04:40):
refused to even cover it. It was only Fox News
that was covering it, so they're really trying to suppress
this information. In my opinion, the corporate establishment media is
working with the DNC and some of these three letter
agencies to runcover for Biden.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Speaking to Congressoman Ana Paulina Luna of Florida and Congressoman
Hunter Biden, Clay and I talked about this a lot.
He still thinks that they may drop real charges, not
some deferred prosecution, pays a fine, make the whole thing
go away, but that there'll be a real charge against
(05:15):
Hunter Biden based on what you're seeing, the information that
you've seen already. Do you think that's possible? And also,
how could there not be unless the system is corrupt?
I think that's the question A lot of people are
asking him. If you get paid millions of dollars you
don't declare you don't pay taxes on it. I thought
that was kind of a big problem.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
It is a big problem, and I don't think that
we will have any charges brought until you know, we
have a new Republican president. And unfortunately, that's what it's
coming down to. Because many of these people that are
appointed are indeed appointed because of their political leanings and
support of that administration. And right now, exactly like you
had stated, I mean, there's so much information on Hunter Biden,
(05:54):
and yet they're refusing to act. Just like the SBI
had this information about Joe Biden, and they've had had
it since twenty sixteen previously, and they chose to sad
on that they had it in twenty twenty. They chose
to stad on it and they're not doing anything with it.
So they have the evidence, they have the testimony of
people that are bringing it forward of not just the
(06:15):
human source, but there's multiple whistleblowers that have come forward
about the Biden family and about Joe Biden specifically. And
it's really interesting because one of our best whistle blowers
that actually had proof that Joe Biden and his family
was receiving illegal basically pay for play schemes, the dj
(06:35):
is now trying to charge as an illegal arms trafficker,
even though he's never sold or tried to broker any
deals with any for organizations for arms. So they are,
in my opinion, using their position to not just intimidate,
but to prevent people from coming forward with the threat
of ruining their lives.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
How do we get any accountability in the FBI? If
people ask me this question, Congresswoman, and they'll ask, usually
in the context of the Intel community CIA, and I say, look,
you'd have to have leadership that would understand the institution
well enough that they would know how to change the culture.
But you'd also have to get rid of a lot
of people, a lot of programs, and cut a lot
(07:15):
of funding. Do you think there's stomach for that in
the next in the next Republican administration? You think that
from what you're hearing from some of your fellow members
of Congress on the Republican side, at least there would
be a willingness to do something about that. I mean,
I remember when Eric Holder was held in contempt when
he was Attorney General, right, I mean, you know, we
do what we can, but that's not going to change
that much.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
Christ I think that it really depends on who the
president is. You know, in my opinion, we need a
fire breathing dragon who is really aggressive on foreign policy
and wants to actually, you know, do the right thing
and help end some of this corruption. I exactly like
you'd stated, you know, I think people in general, I'm
I'm frustrated. I know people are as well, because it's like, well,
we know this is happening, but like, what's going to change?
(07:58):
And it's kind of, you know, it feels like sometimes
a defeated perspective because it's just agreed tous what they're doing.
But you know, I think it's gonna really depends on
what happens next administration. I'm sure you saw what happened
with the debt negotiations, and I think and I voted
no against raising the debt ceiling for trillion because again,
(08:18):
like you had stated, cutting funding is a huge deal,
and yet it didn't seem like there was as aggressive
action towards some of these three letter agencies that could
have been there. And so I think that it is
people one holding your representatives accountable because it does matter.
You do have a voice, and your representatives will respond,
especially if people are calling in, you know, But also too,
it does depend on leadership, and that's why I think
(08:40):
twenty twenty four is gonna be so important.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
What do you think is the most important issue or too,
that the Republican Congress under Speaker McCarthy's leadership can realistically
achieve between now and election day.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
Well, I thought the first one was everything with the
debt ceiling, and that's kind of gone to pass. But
I think it's really going to be using these hearings
to hold people accountable. I would love to see an
impeachment of my orcists and some of these bureaucrauts have
their positions completely defunded, which is something that we can
do under the Wholden Rule. So I think that that's
(09:16):
really going to be something that you know, we're a
very slim majority, and it's projected. I think just kind
of with everything happening with members stepping down and whatnot,
that we'll probably have like a three person majority by September,
and so every single Republican in this conference is really
going to have to work together and have their voices
be heard, otherwise we won't get anything done. But it
(09:38):
is going to be interesting to kind of see, you know,
we are. I've never been so happy to have the
founding fathers engineer our country the way that they did
with the checks and balances, But I am so happy
that we're at least in the majority right now because
we can stop a lot of the bad legislation that
this administration is trying to push through.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Florida Representative Anna Paulina Luda, Congresswoman, thanks for being with us. Appreciated.
I always want to call her Anna, but you know, Congresswoman,
thank you, thank you very much. So here here we go.
We have more information about the Biden crime family, but
we keep running into this roadblock. I feel the frustration
(10:19):
that a lot of you have. And as I said,
when I was seeing some of our listeners out in
Saint Louis last night and they were asking me questions
on stage, and then, you know, after after we did
our our live event, and I look at them and
they ask these questions, and I say, I hope we
can change it. I don't know, because I'm not going
(10:40):
to say, oh, yeah, everything's gonna be fine. You know,
the three letter agencies there, they've learned their lesson. They
haven't learned their lesson, they haven't changed. All they thought
they had to do was waited out under Trump. It's
one of the most true things that I ever heard
about the State Department specifically. It's a it's a joke,
(11:00):
but I think it's really more a mission statement than
a joke, which is that presidents come and go, but
the State Department is forever. It's what the bureaucrats there say.
I don't know, I don't know what jokes they make
about the CIA. They're probably very funny too. But point
here is nothing changed, nothing changed in those institutions, not really,
not at all. And these are areas of our civic
(11:27):
life where there has to be some degree of good
faith in operation. This is why prosecutors and the Soros
backed prosecutors, and the concerted effort by Democrats to undo
the rule of law in these cities is so destructive
because there's not a lot you can do. When a
prosecutor decides that he's not going to or she's not
(11:49):
going to enforce the law, you can vote them out.
And this is really what we're talking about here. Well, okay,
you can achieve political power to try some reforms, but
in the case of a three letter agency, it's more
than one individual that's the problem. It's not just one
Sorow's prosecutor. It's an army of them, so to speak,
that are embedded in these places, and not just not
(12:11):
just the you know, the famous or the most famous
of these three letter agencies, c I, A, FBI. You know,
they're in the EPA, they're in DHS, they're they're all
over the place. They're in a whole range of these institutions,
and how do we clean things up? How do we
make things better in them? And I get asked this question,
(12:33):
I say, you would have to have a Congress and
an executive that was willing to do things that would
be unpopular with some folks in the moment. Oh my gosh,
look what you're doing. There's a there's a old again,
another old joke, but the fireman first strategy. You might
have heard of this before. It's whether you're gonna cut
(12:55):
municipal funding. You see variations of this all over the country.
The second you say, hey, can we can we cut
this program of that program says, oh no, you're you're
that's gonna result. You're gonna you're cutting the fire department,
You're cutting the police department. Right, Oh no, you can't
do that. None of us are gonna be safe. You
see this with the budget negotiations too. Every dollar of
(13:18):
additional spending beyond the preset spending is sacred. That's the
approach the Democrats take. It's it's maniacal, but it's effective.
So you would have to come in and say we
are going to We're gonna cut FBI funding, cut IRS funding. Democrats,
as you've noticed, they want to massively increase IRS funding.
(13:40):
That is not an accident, that's not incidental because the
funding of the IRS, to make it the tax stazi
serves multiple purposes for them. They use it as a
weapon against their enemies all of a sudden, you know,
people are gonna get audited, who are I don't know,
talk radio hosts, stuff like that. And also pushing for
(14:03):
even more revenue for an over tax population, and pushing
even more revenue out of the fifty percent of the
population that pays all of the taxes. That's the plant.
That's what they're doing right now. Eight hundred two eight
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second lady the United States of America has ever had.
Would you join me in thanking my amazing wife Karen Pence.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
Okay, you get the idea. Is kind of the basic
stump speech stuff. I am curious. I mean, I really
mean this. I am curious. Do any of you listening
entertain in your mind the possibility that you would vote
for Mike Pence or president in this Republican primary. I'm
not saying up against Biden. I'm saying, is Pence your guy?
(17:48):
If so, why? And I just want to know. We've
had VIVEK people call in, who are all in on Vivek.
I don't think we've had any Nikki Haley all in
team me. If that's wrong. I don't think she's going
to be joining us on Tuesday. But there's got to
be some right I think it. He's got some poll numbers.
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I've got to check those. We'll take a dive into this.
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CNN having a rough time as it deserves to. It
(19:32):
really disgraced itself during the Trump administration. The egos over there,
starting with Zucker the ousted head of CNN, who was
conducting a long time affair with his number two at CNN.
Sure got you the job. There was no favoritism there
at all. But you will recall they never could get
(19:55):
over being called fake news. They never could get past
the ego blow of Trump saying what was just true.
I always also like to remind everybody that the usage
of fake news as a term by Trump was response
(20:17):
a response to what the Democrats were doing. Democrats were
to undermine the MAGA voters of twenty sixteen saying they
believe fake news online, as in, you know, stories about
you know, Hillary is actually a lizard person from outer space. Oh. Also,
(20:39):
do we want to talk UFOs today or later this week?
I'm just putting that out. I'm sitting here and I'm
open to anything. I'm open to anything that has evidence.
And some people I really like and trust and I
think are very smart, are big UFO believers, and I
need someone we need to we need to get somebody
(21:01):
on here who could you just may be so where
are we with this? Exactly? The UFO thing? Anyway, We'll
talk more about that, but back to I'm just putting
that out there because I'm with you, solo for the
next couple of days. Clay's on a couple's retreat. He's
with the missus and some friends, and he's taken some
days off to rest recoup, and they'll be back in
(21:21):
action with us on Monday. So I'm gonna be with
you a few days. I think we should talk about
UFOs a little bit. It's getting all this attention. I
sit here as a Hey, team, was it Molder or Scully?
Who was the skeptic? I never watched enough of the
X Files. I should probably go back Scully. So I'm
is that the Is that the lady? I'm apparently you know,
(21:43):
breaking news? I'm the lady here. Yeah, I'm Scully. I'm
Scully in this one. I don't see the UFO thing.
I don't know. I will tell you this. I don't
know if my family's listening to this at all. My
family is split on this one. My immediate family were
split on this one. There are a couple of skeptics,
and there are some there are some Molders, there are
(22:04):
some true believers about the UFO thing. And I sit
here and I go, what am I missing? You know?
If it make the Little Flying Saucer appear somewhere, and
I don't even care if little green men get out
or if it's even just like Amiba's under a microscope.
But just show me the show me the UFO. And
(22:25):
some of you are probably thinking I'm crazy because there's
all the dots on the screens and stuff, and others
you think, yeah, of course, Buck, It's amazing, isn't it.
This debate that we're having over a UFOs. Because right
there's a guy who came forward, Oh yeah, producer Rally
telling me, in New York City, the sky because of
the fires in forest fires in Canada, the air quality
(22:45):
in New York City is the worst in the whole country.
Right now, I'll tell you when I was in China
back in twenty nineteen, so right before the I was
in I was in China right before the pandemic, and
I was there for I don't know a week. We
can change and you'd see the the pollution. I was
(23:06):
in Shanghai, and the whole sky and everything from just
the pollution gathered. It was really dystopian, unsettling, and I
thought a lot about China was very dystopian. I'll just
add that I thought this is not gonna this is
not heading to a happy place everybody. But that's not
a surprise. But New York City's what's up?
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (23:31):
Oh Pence? So what I'm pretty sure Mike is saying,
all hell's breaking loose because Pence Pence has announced. So
now you know the skies. It is a little bit
like in Ghostbusters, right when the skies turned like was
it purple or something? And because the key Master and
Gozer and all that, So Pence is Pence has announced.
We played some of that announcement for you see it.
(23:54):
Oh we do. If you're a Pence. We have some
Pence people who have called in. Please stay with me.
I will get you. I just want to talk about
the CNN thing for a second, because I know there
have to be some Pence people out there. I also
note that there are a fair amount of they are
a fair amount of people that seem really really anti Pence.
(24:18):
I would like to hear from them too. I'm Republicans,
so I know, I know there are people that think
Mike Pence is great and he's their candidate, and some
of them have already called in. So we've we've got
we've got proof of life on that one. Right, we
know they exist. And I also I am curious to
hear for anyone who feels very strongly against Mike Pence
because I would guess that for a lot of the
(24:41):
GOP base right now and for a lot of you.
This is my guest. I could I could be off.
Pence is just not the guy for the moment, and
so him running, you know, you think it's going to
be a little bit like Nikky Haley running or you know,
you're not deeply anti and you're not pro you're just
(25:02):
kinda meh whatever about it. That's my guess. I could
be wrong. So that's why I put it out to you,
and I want to know. But back to CNN in
the fake news controversy from the very beginning, so they
were saying fake news. Trump turned it around on them,
and he really forced a journalistic self immolation over at CNN.
(25:22):
I mean, they just did they They lit their own
building on fire. They destroyed it as a as a temple,
as a monolith of supposed journalism. CNN was gone. It
turned into remember Jim Acosta and although oh he wasn't.
He lost his White House hard pass. Oh, the First
(25:43):
Amendment is dead. Jim Acosta has to show an ID
and check in before he gets access to the West Wing,
which a lot of people don't have access to. But
you know the whole thing, right, And and you saw
all these different hosts who were supposedly giving you the news,
who were really just boring opinion hosts reading off a
prompter who don't have much to say other than Trump
(26:04):
is Hitler. Well that in the post Trump era predictably
resulted in the professional defenestration of a number of senior
CNN figures. No most don't bleek Jeff Zucker and then
Chris Cuomo. Bro Cuomo was like, hey, like, what do
(26:26):
you mean I can't advise my brother. No, not when
you're going to be reporting on your brother and doing
interviews with him at night. That's and not telling the
audience about it. That that could be kind of an issue.
Thank you. Defenestration want to go with that as word
of the day, crazy historical fact defenestration of Prague. You
know those guys lived. I'm pretty sure it was because
(26:46):
there was a manure cart under the window something like that.
Someone could fact check me on that one. But the
guys who were defenestrated, which then led to massive warfare
throughout Europe. But they lived that even though they were
thrown out the window. So CNN had this whole problem,
and it was because Trump broke them. I mean, he
just spiritually emotionally defeated CNN as an entity that is
(27:09):
I think beyond dispute at this point, because to go
against him, they decided that there were no rules and
they exposed to every They exposed themselves for everyone to
see as abject partisan hacks. Okay, that is CNN destruction
number one. CNN then tried to limp along and do
(27:33):
a redo with this guy, Chris licked the big piece
in The Atlantic, which if you want to know what
b minus students from northeastern lib schools and coastal coastal universities.
If you want to know what they read or pretend
(27:55):
to read, it's The Atlantic. They read one article from
it once a month, maybe second and say, I read
the Atlantic. But I did read the Atlantic, so I'm
admitting that to all of you. So I could read
this article and it was a big profile with a
lot of access to the head of CNN. And what
was interesting was that, first off, it makes clear CNN
destruction two point zero was you guessed it, Trump's town hall,
(28:21):
the Trump town Hall. They just lost their minds over there,
all the different anchors, they're all crying about it and
how could we have platformed them, and the fact that
you had all these pro Trump people in the audience
and Caitlyn Collins get steamrolled the whole thing, and so
much so that he Chris licked this guy who came
(28:42):
over from he was at Morning Joe, and then he
was at the Cold No, not the Colbert what's the
Late Show with Colbert?
Speaker 5 (28:50):
Whatever?
Speaker 3 (28:50):
That is, right, Stephen Colbert Show. And then he moved
over to take over CNN. It didn't last much more
than a year. This is why he didn't last though
this I don't know. I don't know this guy never.
I never talked to him. I talked to Jeff Zucker
a bunch of times when I was over as a
contributor at CNN before I realized they had all completely
lost their minds and hated Republicans and any Republican in
(29:13):
the Trump era who still was going on CNN. I
was like, you're just getting You're just getting punched in
the face. There's no point. The audience hates you. They're
not listening. The anchors hate you, they all despise you.
So that's I turned down a job at CNN without
a job in TV because Trump had just won the election.
They wanted me to stay around, and I said no,
I'd rather just do my own thing, thank you. Because
(29:35):
I was pro Trump. I voted for him. I was
so psyched that he had won. And I was like,
I don't I don't want to go on CNN so
they can be like, so like explain to us, like
why you think that, like voting for Hitler is not
voting for Hitler. You know, I just didn't really need
that in my day to day. But Chris Slick, this
guy ended up sounding not that crazy. Here's from the article.
(29:58):
I think he's a lib, but he's not to saying.
He said, apparently to CNN staff, do not virtue signal,
tell the truth, ask questions, getting at the truth, not
collecting facts for one side or collecting facts for another side.
Ask the tough questions. It's an incredibly sensitive, divisive issue
of when there's a ven diagram the country can agree
(30:19):
on if we get there with the facts. Yeah, this
guy is gone because he showed up at CNN, and
he was like, everybody knows. Did this place turn into
a laughing stock and a partisan, you know, clown show?
Can we at least get back to some basic reality?
And CNN, with its collective Biden voting Hillary and Obama
(30:43):
loving voice, shouted out, no, we shall not return to
the facts, sir, you shall be fired. So that's what
CNN did, and it's because the Trump town hall. Two times,
two times, CNN has fallen victim to the Trump's So
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Speaker 3 (32:37):
Wow, I'm getting photos sent from New York City and
it really, it really does look like the key Master
and the Gatekeeper in Ghostbusters. It looks like the ghosts
are gonna start flying out of the tops of the buildings,
out of the subways. It is rough. So that's that's
not good. Apparently all from the Canadian wildfires. Uh, having
(33:02):
the you know, the the air quality really destroyed in
New York City because it's blown down from Canada. Thanks Canada. Gosh,
Terry in Texas, Terry, you like Pence? Tell me about it,
hy bug.
Speaker 7 (33:20):
I love Mike Pence. I think he's a great stand
up Christian man with good morals. But I have a
lot of Republican friends that are leading Democrat because of
the whole abortion thing, and I truly think he would
be a wasted vote.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
So you you like Pence a lot, but you think
because he's too pro life effectively, he's politically not not
able to win. Is that? Is that what you're what
you're feeling?
Speaker 7 (33:49):
I think right now because all this just happened and
just came down recently. Yeah, it's not a good time, gotcha.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
Yeah, thank you? You know, Terry, I would tell you
to listen to. I spoke to Lyla Rose, who is
a pro life activist and she joined on the podcast stream.
So if you subscribe the claim BUK podcast, it's right
there you could listen because she is very She is
vociferous in her defense of the idea that the pro
(34:18):
life position can win nationally and is more popular than
the media wants you to believe. I do think it's
you got to go place by place, state by state,
look at the numbers, and it's on the issue of
on the issue of the Thank you for calling in terry.
On the issue of morality, I don't think it's complicated
at all. I think it's clear that you want to
save as many babies as as possible on the issue
(34:40):
of what can win, just the pure politics of it.
I hear smart people on both sides that have differing
differing views. On the right I'm talking at obviously on
the left, it's abortion, all nine months of a pregnancy abortion.
You know they they take it to the absolute extreme.
And that's a position of the Democrat Party, is it.
(35:01):
Nyla in San Antonio? Did I get that right?
Speaker 7 (35:05):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (35:05):
You did, Nila. What have you got for us about
mister Pence.
Speaker 5 (35:10):
Well, I would vote for him simply because of what
your previous color had said, because of his morality. But
morality isn't just whether you're pro abortion or not. It's
whether you lie, whether your word is good. And as
good as Trump was for the country, he's got the
(35:31):
morals of a gutter snip. I just which we had
more morality in general?
Speaker 3 (35:38):
In Nyla, thank you so much for sharing that. I
appreciate you calling in. I would say this, everything I've
interviewed Pence, I don't know a couple of times I
don't know him. Beyond that, I mean, I've spent time
with Frump, like talk to him and around him. You know,
I spent a fair amount of time with him over
the years. I really haven't spent my time with Pence
(36:01):
everything that he has done, though in my personal interactions
with him would support that he seems to be a
very decent man. So now does that mean that he's
the guy for this moment? I think a lot of
people would argue that you need you know, you need
a brawler for this moment given what the other side
(36:23):
has arrayed against us. And then there are others who
would say, well, you need somebody who's more precise. You know,
you don't want someone who's swinging a sledgehammer. You want
somebody who's taking a scalpel to the problem. And this
is why we have a primary. Isn't it great We
all get to see how this plays out. We can
talk about it. But I'm happy to hear or I
appreciate I should say that people called in and had
(36:45):
thoughts about Mike Pence right away, and it seems like
we've got a lot of people feel very positively about
him in the audience, and I can understand. I understand
why we had mentioned the I always say weak because
even if it plays out for the day, it still
feels like it's a week. The crime situation in New York,
suing over cars being too easy to steal, suing the
(37:05):
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