May 23, 2023 • 37 mins
Report: DeSantis to launch campaign in Twitter appearance with Elon Musk. Target holds emergency meeting over LGBT merchandise uproar, desperate to avoid Bud Light situation. OutKick's newest host Charly Arnolt joins Clay and Buck to discuss why she left ESPN to speak her mind freely and weigh in on how radical leftists are destroying women's sports. WSJ: Special counsel wraps Trump Mar-a-Lago probe, decision on charges pending. C&B take call to end the show.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of the Klay, Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast. Welcome back in our number three. A
lot of fun topics we've already dove into, We're going
to dive into a lot more. But breaking news. This
is according to NBC News, Buck literally just came down
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in the last five minutes. Ron DeSantis is going to
launch his presidential bid tomorrow Twitter on Twitter Wednesday evening.
In a conversation with Elon Musk, I'm reading from this
NBC report right now again, this news just breaking. Florida
(00:47):
Governor Ron DeSantis will announce he's running for president during
a discussion with Twitter CEO Elon Musk. Three sources familiar
with the plans told NBC News into Santis will host
an event on Twitter Spaces, the site's platform for audio chats,
on Wednesday at seven pm Eastern. It will be moderated
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by David Sachs, a tech entrepreneur who is a Musk
confidant and a DeSantis supporter. That same evening, the campaign
will release a launch video, and DeSantis will begin visiting
several early states after Memorial Day. So the launch and
(01:31):
I'm reading from NBC will closely tie together the billionaire
tech mogul with one of the Republican parties rising Stars,
and the announcement will coincide with a retreat for high
end fundraisers pledged to support Dasantis in Miami that will
be occurring there. So it's not clear if Musk will
(01:53):
formally endorse DeSantis, but another source said that the participation
is viewed as a clear sign of for the governor.
NBC News did not receive a response from Musk, Sacks,
or the DeSantis campaign. Buck your reaction when you hear
presuming again it's NBC News. This could be untrue, but
(02:16):
NBC News reporting this Wednesday evening announcement with Elon Musk,
assuming it's true, your reaction to this news is what
I think.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
What this shows you is Twitter is likely to be
a centerpiece in the effort to at least start to
equalize the advantage that Democrats have had from not just
control of the social media platforms, but the active active
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measures suppression and all the rest of what we've seen,
particularly in twenty twenty against Trump. So it makes a
lot of sense to me. It also goes to show
you that there this is really about taking it directly
to the people. It's not a favored show or you know,
(03:08):
a long standing legacy media outlet. And I think it's
very interesting that this is the choice. This makes perfect
sense to me. Wouldn't it be funny if Tucker just
like popped up alongside them, like, hey, guys, like I
just also want to say hi here and this is
the new home for a free speech. There's something really profound,
really important about what Elon Musk is doing with Twitter.
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It's not perfect clan I talk about this. There's a
lot of and I know very few of you are
on Twitter, but really Twitter is almost like the assignment
editor for the National Conversation. That's really how you know
on Facebook. On Facebook, you'll share things on Facebook, you know, you'll.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
See you know your neighbor's dog or whatever.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
But the news entities commentators shows everyone that you know,
everyone that you follow in that space. They're pretty much
active on Twitter, of course, with the exception of Donald Trump,
which is very interesting and I thought about that right away.
I thought, wait a second, so DeSantis is going to
leverage Twitter as a platform to take it directly to
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millions and millions of people. Trump is still not active
on Twitter. He is locked in with truth social I
don't know if that's I know it's contractually and the
business side of it and all the rest comes into play,
But I don't know if that's sustainable for him in
a primary against DeSantis because Trump used Twitter so effectively
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in twenty sixteen and in twenty twenty, which is why
they kicked him off.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Okay, so my big takeaway here is, Buck, can you
tell me if you disagree or think I'm reading this wrong.
If 'ro On DeSantis is announcing for president, as NBC
News is reporting on Twitter spaces with Elon Musk and
with David's who is a prominent DeSantis supporter, how is
(05:04):
that anything other than an endorsement by Elon Musk Ofvron DeSantis.
I mean personally, not Twitter, right, I mean the company
itself is not endorsing him. I think it's really smart
because DeSantis is going on this is kind of a
new generation way to announce, which if you're DeSantis, you
want to argue I'm a new generation of leader. Right.
(05:25):
DeSantis is forty four. A lot of the people he's
the youngest. He'll be the youngest other than Vivic Ramaswami.
I believe Buck the youngest person to announce for presidents
so far, got a young family, young wife, all of
those things. To me, if you could pick one person,
if you said to me, Klay Travis, you get to
draft one person in America right now to support your
(05:49):
presidential run. And I mean outside of your own family,
right because number one would be my wife hopefully kids.
I'm talking about a public figure. I think I would
take Elon Musk number one overall.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
I mentioned this yesterday and I didn't have the graphic
handy at the time, but there's a Harvard Harris poll
to me, yes, yeah, there's a Harvard Harris poll that
Elon Musk is the most politically positive or liked figure
in America right now, which is fascinating because he's not
even a politician as we know. But you know, this
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is something that I think we'll have a I think
this could have a really major, really major effect on
what happens in this twenty twenty four election. The fact
that we will have for the first time a true
now for anyone saying, oh, I'm not on Twitter. Yeah,
but the Hunter Biden laptop story, for example, could if
something like that were to happen. And let's all remind
(06:43):
everybody that the irs, from what we understand, fired the
people the team looking into Hunter and his finances. That
I mean, there is there's not just smoke, there's fire.
There's a conflagration, and they're just hoping you don't pay
any attention to it. But let's say something really damaging.
Where to break with regard to biding the Democrats. We
(07:05):
know there's at least one place where and this is
all relying on Elon continuing the mission and his new CEO,
not not you know, messing things up, but there's one
place where you could go where you know that people
would be able to We'd be able to share our opinions.
Other people on the right would be able to share
their opinions. And I think that's really that's really meaningful.
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Their ability to destroy stories before or to suppress stories
before they reach critical mass and therefore have a political
impact that is changed.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Now.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
It's not gone, it's just it's different than it would
have been. And I think that Elon Musk, Look, it's
great that he bought Twitter. How about you know, throwing
some money into some other things. The guy's got his
hands full I'm not I'm not you know, I'm not complaining,
but I'm just throwing out the idea we could use
(07:58):
a whole lot more to rebuild trust and institutions, both
on and offline, and he could be a real leader
in that. Yeah, I don't think there's any doubt.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
I see this as a pretty big coup, and I'm
curious how people will respond to it. Musk will get
eviscerated right by the usual suspects on the left in
this country, but I'm sure musk perspective at least if
I were him, what I would say is, Hey, I
want Twitter to be the place where people come to
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break news, and I don't want them to just break
news with tweets written. I want them to do video.
I want them to do audio. If Joe Biden wants
to sit down with me and have a Twitter spaces conversation,
This is me speaking as if I were Evel On Musk,
although we would say the same thing on this radio show. Hey,
if I'm sure we'll have Tim Scott and Ron DeSantis
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at some point, I would bet this week on the program.
If Joe Biden buck wanted to come on and talk
to us for an hour. I would roll out the
red carpet in a heartbeat for Joe Biden, because I
think that would be important for our audience, but also
for everybody else out there who would consume it to
hear what Joe Biden sounds like when he actually gets
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asked questions for an hour. We've had Trump on for
an hour at a time. So the way that I
would respond, I'm already thinking ahead for Elon is I
would say, look, Joe Biden wants to sit down and
talk with me for an hour on Twitter spaces, we'll
have him too. But Elon, I believe, and our staff
can correct me if I'm wrong, has already said on
Twitter that he's a desantist guy. So to me, this
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feels like a personal sort of, you know, stamp of
approval from Elon. And again, can you think of a
guide buck if you are running for president right now?
Take it outside of your friend's family. You know that
you obviously want to support you, but a public figure.
Can you think of a more compelling public figure to
have endorse effectively your campaign than Elon?
Speaker 2 (09:56):
I mean, he's he's the richest man in the world,
he's a genius, and and he is single handily doing
more for free speech on the Internet than any other
person of the last I don't know, twenty years. So yeah,
it's pretty it's pretty big, pretty big, pretty helpful.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Yeah, and we'd have Elon on the show too, by
the way, Yeah, Elon, where are you?
Speaker 3 (10:17):
Elonly needs to come hang out with us sometimes. We
sad you mentioned before.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
But anyway, the news that is out there now, DeSantis
for those of you just getting in your car. Supposedly,
according to NBC News, going to announce on Twitter with
Elon Musk tomorrow evening. And can we say DeSantis is
scheduled to be on this program Thursday, after he has
already announced. We're trying to get Tim Scott with Ted
(10:42):
Nicky Hayley. The President Trump has a direct dial to
the program. We want this to be a forum where
everybody who's running for president can talk directly to you guys.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
The Trump phone has been set up. The Trump Phone
has been delivered, so to speak. He can call in
any time. Wait, we've told this team you gave it
to him in person. I did, so we're you know,
we're like, this is the same.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
You know.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Elon wants Twitter to be a forum on the right,
for conservatives, for Republicans. This is an audio forum, so
we will have all the different candidates on. We're going
to have the different individuals make their case to you.
We'll hear from people, you know, we had people calling yesterday.
I think Tim Scott's going to go all the way. Great,
you know Whoever, I get the occasional email that someone
says they're all in for VIVEC, which I do too.
(11:28):
It's surprising to me, but great, you know, Okay, I'm
glad someone's all in for VIVEC, you know. But we
will maintain the rush rule here. We do not endorse,
so everyone knows exactly where we're coming from. But I
think it's going to be a really fascinating conversation. And
also that those the first polls, what it would be
next week, it might might be a little bit of
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a lag. I mean, you got to kind of let
things settle in. But the next two weeks or so,
we'll see a first set of real polls on where
this primary stands.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
I think that will be really interesting.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
I think it'll be also super interesting to see buck
how does DeSantis raise money coming out of the gate,
how much enthusiasm is there for him. We know that
he's raised a lot of money already, and this way
of announcing with the elon, I'm genuinely curious to see
because Trump has not raised Trumpian amounts of money, right
(12:23):
if you look at at least his disclosures, he has
not raised hundreds of millions of dollars. Did he raise
a billion dollars to run in twenty twenty before Alway says.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
A ton of money?
Speaker 2 (12:33):
I can't even remember now, But yes, his fundraising has
been paltry so far in the first uh first period
of this year. That's that's by Trump numbers, you know,
by his own standards.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
So that will give you an early read because again,
the amount of money you spend can adjust your poll
numbers fairly substantially. So to your point, yes, the early
poll numbers will be interesting, but also what do they spend?
Do they go ahead and like die full in? Because
Trump is spending money against DeSantis in a big way
right now? Does DeSantis just say screw it, we're gonna
spend twenty million dollars in this first month? I have
(13:04):
no idea. I'm fascinated to see.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
I believe Trump has spent more on OPO ads at
this point against DeSantis than the Trump aligned pack spent
on all the twenty twenty two elections. I think, I
think that's the uh.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
That's a big number. I saw that headline to repeat
that because I think it's a little bit hard to
the understand if you're not prepared. Let me, I want to.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Make sure that I'm that I'm squared away with with
reading the data properly in the numbers. But my understanding
is that Trump affiliated pack or whatever. I have to
find out the name of it, but essentially MAGA World
has spent more money against DeSantis so far than it's
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spent in favor of twenty twenty two Republican candidates.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
That's wild to me. Wit that stat I mean that
is that is wild how much he's already spent.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
And and this is where you start to say, well,
here you go, Donald trum Trump. Maga Inc. Super Pac
intensifies its attacks on Ron DeSantis ahead of likely entry
in the presidential race, dropping two point eight million on
attack ads, bringing their anti Desantists spend to fifteen point
three million, blowing past the fifteen million dollars that MAGA Inc.
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Spent on all twenty twenty two midterm races. From Rob
Pyres on Twitter. I've seen many others referring to this.
So Trump has spent more attacking DeSantis than the Trump
MAGA packs spent on all the mid terms for Republicans.
I think that's interesting. So we'll see where all this goes.
And want to hear from you. What are you excited?
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Do you think it's going to be a big change
in the race or do you think it's going to
go down like a lead balloon?
Speaker 1 (14:45):
You know?
Speaker 2 (14:46):
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Speaker 2 (16:05):
Like Target may be trying to learn the lessons of
bud Light. Here Fox News reporting the Target holding an
emergency meeting over LGBTQ merchandise in some stores to avoid
a bud Light situation.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
And you know, Clay, this is uh. There have been
a few people.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Actually, I spoke last night on a podcast with Alison Steinberg,
who's a One America news host, about her viral video
on this. She just went around to these different stores
and pointed out like the bathing suits that have the
you know that hide the man stuff Jenet penis. I
think I say it hides your penis. That's the point
(16:49):
of the bathing female a female. Target is selling female
bathing suits that hide your penis if you're a transgender person.
So yeah, and then also a whole bunch of other
you know, pride themed stuff.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Target does one hundred billion in sales.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Target getting ahead of this, I think goes to show
everybody why the bud light effect is so powerful.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Yeah. Look, this is the ultimate goal. Buck. For people
out there who said, oh, you know, I don't really
care about beer. I don't know why I should be
doing anything associated with bud light in general, the answer
is because forever businesses have become come to believe that
there's no consequences for being too far left wing, and
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now suddenly there is a consequence right the meeting that
they would have to have to say, we don't want
to get bud lighted. That's something that everybody out there
needs to contemplate and think about every business, because I
think that's really the only way we ever get back
to complete normalcy in this country. Buck, is if people
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in Clay, Travis, Buck Sexton show. We are joined now
(19:02):
by the newest employee at OutKick, Charlie Arnault. She is
absolutely killing it. You may have seen her all over
Fox News certainly she is working on a new morning
show which we'll debut with OutKick. Excited to have Charlie
with us. Now, Charlie, what's been the biggest surprise for
you about leaving ESPN and coming to OutKick and starting
(19:26):
to work for Fox as well. What has that experience
been like, what's the biggest surprise?
Speaker 4 (19:31):
Well, first of all, Hi, guys, I'm so excited to
be here, glad to bea happened. I would say the
best thing that I've experienced so far, the most refreshing
thing is I haven't been confined to talking about one
thing in particular. My opinions have been deemed to be
important in a lot of different discussions, which I wasn't
used to experiencing at ESPN. At ESPN, I was pretty
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much pigeonholed into more so just reading highlights and sports
copy off a prompter and little to know of my
opinions inserted in whatever we were talking about. Whereas at talks,
I mean I have run the gamut clay, as you know,
of the things that I've been asked to discuss and
talk about, things that are so prevalent, not just in sports,
but in our society as a whole and a lot
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of them that are tremendously affecting women right now. And
I'm really honored that my opinion is deemed to be
so important that broadcast wants to use me in so many,
so many different areas.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
All Right, we'll get to serious things with Buck here
in a moment.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
But it's serious things with Buck. That's like the segment,
Serious things with Buck.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
But it occurs to me that you are on the
program and you are a part of a major controversy
that we discussed on the program because you were the
fourth person sitting at a table when Jesse Kelly ordered
seventy five dollars Tekuila shots out of nowhere. Some people
will remember this you the first time we met. I
(20:55):
actually took Buck out with me to meet you when
we were recruiting to get try to get you to
come to OutKick. But I want to go back to
that moment when Jesse Kelly ordered seventy five dollars shots.
You live in New York City. Did that strike you
as an aggressive move by Jesse to just order seventy
five dollars shots for the table since I was paying?
Speaker 4 (21:16):
Yeah, I'm super aggressive. I was I was talking to.
I didn't even know seventy five dollars tequila shots existed.
Of course, you know, as as the new person to
the group, I wasn't allowed to speak up. Otherwise I
totally would have given him hell for that. But you know,
I guess if you're not paying, why not throw it
on someone else's cab.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
There we go, spoken like a single woman in New
York City. By the way, I will mention.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
Yes, absolutely, but also remember that I wasn't a huge
fan of the seventy five dollars shot. I actually didn't
like it too much, and looking back, I feel like
maybe I didn't give it enough of an opportunity to
satisfy my taste. But so maybe another time in the future,
I'll let Jesse bring up some more seventy five dollars
shots on you or tab we'll see.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
We are speaking to rising Fox News and OutKick superstar
Charlie Arnold and Charlie to that end, I wanted to
ask you about hught. We talked about our friend Jesse Kelly,
who also is a syndicated radio host with Premier.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
A great guy.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
We're all friends with him. He has gotten attention to
the past for being very honest about his feelings when
it comes to the WNBA and the ratings. Explain this
to me, the Phoenix Mercury coach here is doing this
whole thing where she's saying she doesn't understand how it's
possible that the attendance at the Brittaney Griner return game
(22:37):
was so low. Let's play twenty two and I have
Charlie react to it. Let's play clip twenty two.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
It was great, but like, honestly, come on, La, like
we didn't sell the arena.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Fir beg like I expected more, you know, to be.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Honest right, Like it was great, it was loud, But.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
How was How was it not a sellout? How was
it not a sellout? How often is it a sellout?
Charlie for the WNBA, I'm really I'm curious.
Speaker 4 (23:08):
How often is zero percent of the time it's a sellout?
I mean, here's the thing. Is not that many people
are shutting down all of their weekend plans to tune
in to what's going on in the NBA, or let
alone to attend a game in person. I think the
fact is most people in our country didn't even know
who Britney Grinder was until she went abroad and committed
(23:29):
a crime, and you know, she thankfully was gotten taken
out of a very sticky situation by the Biden administration.
But it doesn't mean that people are now obligated to
care about what she does in her professional career. I mean,
I just think it's crazy how people feel an obligation
or people say, oh, you don't respect people if you
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don't pay attention to this, and you don't care about this.
We all have a lot going on in our lives.
No offense to Britney Griner, but Britney Griner is not
a priority for most people.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
Charlie, You've been in sports for a while now, and
when I came in, I told Buck, hey, sports, whatever
you think of the political media, sports media has gone
so far left wing. I think it's even way more
left wing than the regular political media. And I'll just
ask you, and I'm curious if you would agree. But
a second part of that question, would you ever believe
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we've been in a position where it would be considered
by controversial by some members of the sports media to
say men should compete against men and women should compete
against women.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
Never never in my life. After especially we spent so
many years talking about how women deserve equal opportunity. You know,
they deserve to be on the same playing field and
level of competition as men. They deserve their own space,
They should have everything that men have. And now you know,
all the same people who are shouting, oh, women are
oppressed are now the ones who are going out of
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their way to oppress women. It makes absolutely no sense.
And I especially was looking at the story that recently
just came out about the transgendered team that finished second
in the California track meet, and that just completely blew
my mind, not just because the transgender athlete was able
to enter the competition and place second, putting another girl
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out of qualification to go onto a further meet down
the road, but also because of the fact that then
afterwards there was the girl that finished fourth and didn't
get to stand on the podium who did the thumbs downsign. Now,
I don't really know whether or not that was geared
towards the situation at hand, or she was just talking
about her own individual performance. I think that's still being debated,
but the fact that she was getting blowbacks for giving
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a thumbs downsign is so beyond me. Because she said
up every right to voice or disappointment, regardless of what
it's about, without people jumping down her throat. I think
it's crazy the world we're living in. And I feel
bad for the girls on the track team, or any
team for that matter, who feel uncomfortable about speaking up
because of the negative feedback they're bound to get from
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other people.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Charlie, does anyone that you used to work with the
ESPN who would publicly on air say that they think
that men should be able to compete in women's sports?
Obviously there's a tremendous amount of corporate pressure and you know,
jobs on the line, all that, I get it. Do
you think any of them really believe that?
Speaker 1 (26:15):
Though any of them, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
There's a lot of brainwashing going on at different networks.
I think we all are aware of that. I think
there are some people who truly have their minds. Their
minds have been absolutely warped. But I think you also
just look at ESPN as a whole. I mean, they're
following they're going down the same road that our government
is going down. I mean it's getting more extreme by
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the day because recall back in what was it, two
thousand and fifteen, maybe twenty sixteen, Caitlin Jenner was awarded
the Arthur ash Purge Award at the SPEs by ESPN
because they were seen as a celebrated individual for speaking
up for themselves being an athlete, you know, becoming transgender.
Kitlyn Jenner guaranteed would not be welcome on ESPN's air
(27:04):
because the talking points that Caitlyn Jenner is now preaching,
which are the ones that I am in line with,
no longer fit within the ESPN narrative. So it's kind
of crazy to think about the flipping back and forth
at ESPN, even just themselves have gone through in the
past few years.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Charlie, going back to what you just said about ESPN
and Buck asked a good question about how many people
privately would say something different than what they say publicly.
How much fear did you get the sense there was
in sports from so many people who were afraid of
saying what they really thought for what the reaction might be,
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either in the corporate suite or on social media. In
other words, how much dishonesty is there even in the
world of sports now?
Speaker 4 (27:50):
Well, you can see when you watch ESPN there's little
to no debate as it pertains to these issues. In fact,
most of the time they're not even addressed because they're
not allowed to be a debate about them. So I
think that if anyone has a different opinion, they just
keep it to themselves because they know better. I mean,
no one wants to lose their job over voicing an opinion.
It's it's not worth it, which is why for me example.
For me as an example, I just didn't even really
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get on Twitter for the past couple of years because
I knew no matter what I said about anything, there
was going to be someone that was overly sensitive and
it would be blown out of proportion and I would
probably get a talking to by one of my bosses.
So I just let that go, even despite the fact
that I had a podcast first take her take that
I was one of the three co hosts on where
we did broach subjects that would be on sports. But
(28:35):
even still in that atmosphere, I didn't feel comfortable talking
about a lot of things. And I still to this
day when I look back and say, you know, should
I have maybe pushed the boundaries a little bit more?
I still say no, because even if my bosses wouldn't
have maybe said anything to me. I think my two
co hosts would have felt a certain type of way
(28:55):
towards me for voicing certain opinions that I may have had,
and that would have just lead led to have time
on the show. So yeah, there was absolutely no atmosphere
in which differing opinions were welcome. And I think even
when you talk about the whole COVID era that we
experienced and you saw people from ESPN losing their jobs
to refuse to get the vaccine, I mean, there was
just no space for any type of differing opinion on
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any field.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Charlie Arnold with US. Now, Charlie, where should folks go
to follow your work and see what you're off to
over at Outkicking on Fox.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
Yes, well right now, that would be all over the
place you can find me. Of course, on OutKick it'll
be starting in August, I'll be hosting a morning show
seven to nine am Monday through Friday. But until then
you can catch me on Outkicks social media pages. I'm
going to be starting to do more segments for them,
as well as having a regular guest spot on Hot
(29:47):
Mic and also Dan Dokt's show Don't At Me. And
then as far as Fox is concerned, all over the place.
I'll be on Sean Hannity's show tonight, and I will
be on the bottom Line on Fox Business on Thursday,
and then if you happen to be a fan of
Power Slap, UFT's newest venture, I will be live reporting
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during that event on Rumble on Wednesday.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
Is that where the men slap each other as hard
as they get in the face.
Speaker 4 (30:16):
Yes, yes it is. Are you interested because I know something.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
We've talked about it on the We've talked about it
on the program. Bluck was blown away that it existed,
like we came on and talked about it.
Speaker 4 (30:26):
Oh yeah, not only does it exist, it's doing really,
really well. Dana White is so big on power Slap
that he is just blowing it up in every which
way that he possibly can.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
Thank you, Charlie Arnold, everybody. Charlie, You're awesome. Thanks for
coming to hang with us.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
And Clay has already told me I have to get
up early in the morning one day so I can
do the OutKick Morning Show.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
But the first time I've been up before eight am
in a long time.
Speaker 4 (30:47):
But thank you, it's a much Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Absolutely thanks for being with us, Clay when they look
at the the end of Western civilization, you know, in
like five hundred years hence, when there's the decline and
fall of American Empire, I think the Special Slap in
the Face League is going to be a chapter in
the book about how it all came crumbling down. I'm
just gonna say it, Special Slap League or are you?
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Are you going to defend special Slap in the Face.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
I'm just gonna say I am so convinced that everybody
has lost their minds that this is like the apex
of masculinity almost right. You just stare across somebody and
hit them in the face as hard as you can.
A part of me feels like we need more gladiatorial
style combat. I was watching Gladiator my wife, my wife's
favorite movie of all time. She introduced it to all
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the boys last week. Very solid, top five for me,
maybe top three, very solid. It's a great movie. And
she actually said, I feel like every year on my
birthday we should all sit around and watch Gladiator. So
my wife obviously is is tougher probably than me for sure,
But I was watching it and I was thinking modern
(31:59):
day gladiator, real combat. It's certainly on some level, I think,
like maybe the NFL, but it's such a raw, violent
masculine act that I feel like, in many ways we
need more masculinity in the country. And so I'll tie
it in with the power slap there, And now your
mind is blocked. The part of you is like, I
(32:20):
kind of I'm gonna go.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
Get I'm sitting here.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
I cannot I cannot believe we're pretending like power slap
is not, you know, degenerously.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
But anyway, it's okay.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
That's all right to each his own, you know, just
with some guy's tooth goes flying out of his mouth.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
I mean, you can die while boxing, right, that's not uncommon.
So I mean I feel like we kind of a
a UFC is pretty pretty uh pretty rough at times.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Right, you know what's next, like who can take the
most paddling on their behind or something?
Speaker 3 (32:49):
Thank you sir.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
I having a lot of people pay for that. That's
democrats in particular. You know, some people do need a
lot more testosterone, that is for sure. In fact, a
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Speaker 2 (34:35):
Welcome back Clay and Buck here closing up shop today,
and uh just congrats to uh klays Hire over at
OutKick Charlie Arnold for doing great work over there already.
And look, she's gonna be for a lot of you
who are uh you know, Fox and OutKick fans. She's
gonna be a name that you see and and you know,
someone you see more and more of. So appreciate her
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Speaker 3 (35:01):
We're gonna try to get to a couple of calls here.
But Clay, do you.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
Want to just give us a quick like the thirty
second version of what We're gonna probably spend a full
hour of the show on tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
Yeah, Especial Council.
Speaker 5 (35:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
According to the Wall Street Journal is basically wrapping up
the mar A Lago probe and they have interviewed everyone
and decisions on charges are coming very soon. I guarantee
you we'll be talking about that tomorrow. That's a Wall
Street Journal take analysis of the Jack Smith investigation.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
Jordan in North Carolina, you've been holding what's going on?
Speaker 1 (35:38):
Jordan?
Speaker 5 (35:40):
What's up? Guys? Amazon driver? Jordan here yo. I could
not be more pumped about the Santists announcing with Elon.
For the biggest reason is because all the Trump people
they just want to put their heads in the sand
and act like he's the greatest candidate we can have.
That are saying old DeSantis is like with the Bushes,
Oh Soros, all that crap. This is the kind of
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people that Destantus associates with. Elon freaking muck like he's
intelligent with shows the Santas level of intelligence, Like it
could not have been a better move on his part,
Like I cannot wait to see it.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
Jordan thank you for the call and eyes on the road.
Stay safe, our friend. Thanks for being with us. All right,
look for all because we have a lot of Trump
calls in right now of people call back tomorrow. I
promise we're gonna have a lot of days to get
into this. The announcement from DeSantis is going to be
tomorrow the next day. So to make your case for
why Trump is your guy, We're gonna give you airtime
(36:41):
to where we are though you know the radio stations
are going to go to other shows soon here, so.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
Let me tell you this. By the way, Jesse Kelly
has already fired back at Charlie's comments about the seventy
five dollars tequila shots. I'm sad to say Clay Travis
and Buck Sexton have both obfuscated the truth. No, no, no,
he's wire
Welcome to today's edition of the Klay, Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast. Welcome back in our number three. A
lot of fun topics we've already dove into, We're going
to dive into a lot more. But breaking news. This
is according to NBC News, Buck literally just came down
(00:24):
in the last five minutes. Ron DeSantis is going to
launch his presidential bid tomorrow Twitter on Twitter Wednesday evening.
In a conversation with Elon Musk, I'm reading from this
NBC report right now again, this news just breaking. Florida
(00:47):
Governor Ron DeSantis will announce he's running for president during
a discussion with Twitter CEO Elon Musk. Three sources familiar
with the plans told NBC News into Santis will host
an event on Twitter Spaces, the site's platform for audio chats,
on Wednesday at seven pm Eastern. It will be moderated
(01:11):
by David Sachs, a tech entrepreneur who is a Musk
confidant and a DeSantis supporter. That same evening, the campaign
will release a launch video, and DeSantis will begin visiting
several early states after Memorial Day. So the launch and
(01:31):
I'm reading from NBC will closely tie together the billionaire
tech mogul with one of the Republican parties rising Stars,
and the announcement will coincide with a retreat for high
end fundraisers pledged to support Dasantis in Miami that will
be occurring there. So it's not clear if Musk will
(01:53):
formally endorse DeSantis, but another source said that the participation
is viewed as a clear sign of for the governor.
NBC News did not receive a response from Musk, Sacks,
or the DeSantis campaign. Buck your reaction when you hear
presuming again it's NBC News. This could be untrue, but
(02:16):
NBC News reporting this Wednesday evening announcement with Elon Musk,
assuming it's true, your reaction to this news is what
I think.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
What this shows you is Twitter is likely to be
a centerpiece in the effort to at least start to
equalize the advantage that Democrats have had from not just
control of the social media platforms, but the active active
(02:48):
measures suppression and all the rest of what we've seen,
particularly in twenty twenty against Trump. So it makes a
lot of sense to me. It also goes to show
you that there this is really about taking it directly
to the people. It's not a favored show or you know,
(03:08):
a long standing legacy media outlet. And I think it's
very interesting that this is the choice. This makes perfect
sense to me. Wouldn't it be funny if Tucker just
like popped up alongside them, like, hey, guys, like I
just also want to say hi here and this is
the new home for a free speech. There's something really profound,
really important about what Elon Musk is doing with Twitter.
(03:32):
It's not perfect clan I talk about this. There's a
lot of and I know very few of you are
on Twitter, but really Twitter is almost like the assignment
editor for the National Conversation. That's really how you know
on Facebook. On Facebook, you'll share things on Facebook, you know, you'll.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
See you know your neighbor's dog or whatever.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
But the news entities commentators shows everyone that you know,
everyone that you follow in that space. They're pretty much
active on Twitter, of course, with the exception of Donald Trump,
which is very interesting and I thought about that right away.
I thought, wait a second, so DeSantis is going to
leverage Twitter as a platform to take it directly to
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millions and millions of people. Trump is still not active
on Twitter. He is locked in with truth social I
don't know if that's I know it's contractually and the
business side of it and all the rest comes into play,
But I don't know if that's sustainable for him in
a primary against DeSantis because Trump used Twitter so effectively
(04:38):
in twenty sixteen and in twenty twenty, which is why
they kicked him off.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Okay, so my big takeaway here is, Buck, can you
tell me if you disagree or think I'm reading this wrong.
If 'ro On DeSantis is announcing for president, as NBC
News is reporting on Twitter spaces with Elon Musk and
with David's who is a prominent DeSantis supporter, how is
(05:04):
that anything other than an endorsement by Elon Musk Ofvron DeSantis.
I mean personally, not Twitter, right, I mean the company
itself is not endorsing him. I think it's really smart
because DeSantis is going on this is kind of a
new generation way to announce, which if you're DeSantis, you
want to argue I'm a new generation of leader. Right.
(05:25):
DeSantis is forty four. A lot of the people he's
the youngest. He'll be the youngest other than Vivic Ramaswami.
I believe Buck the youngest person to announce for presidents
so far, got a young family, young wife, all of
those things. To me, if you could pick one person,
if you said to me, Klay Travis, you get to
draft one person in America right now to support your
(05:49):
presidential run. And I mean outside of your own family,
right because number one would be my wife hopefully kids.
I'm talking about a public figure. I think I would
take Elon Musk number one overall.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
I mentioned this yesterday and I didn't have the graphic
handy at the time, but there's a Harvard Harris poll
to me, yes, yeah, there's a Harvard Harris poll that
Elon Musk is the most politically positive or liked figure
in America right now, which is fascinating because he's not
even a politician as we know. But you know, this
(06:21):
is something that I think we'll have a I think
this could have a really major, really major effect on
what happens in this twenty twenty four election. The fact
that we will have for the first time a true
now for anyone saying, oh, I'm not on Twitter. Yeah,
but the Hunter Biden laptop story, for example, could if
something like that were to happen. And let's all remind
(06:43):
everybody that the irs, from what we understand, fired the
people the team looking into Hunter and his finances. That
I mean, there is there's not just smoke, there's fire.
There's a conflagration, and they're just hoping you don't pay
any attention to it. But let's say something really damaging.
Where to break with regard to biding the Democrats. We
(07:05):
know there's at least one place where and this is
all relying on Elon continuing the mission and his new CEO,
not not you know, messing things up, but there's one
place where you could go where you know that people
would be able to We'd be able to share our opinions.
Other people on the right would be able to share
their opinions. And I think that's really that's really meaningful.
(07:26):
Their ability to destroy stories before or to suppress stories
before they reach critical mass and therefore have a political
impact that is changed.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Now.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
It's not gone, it's just it's different than it would
have been. And I think that Elon Musk, Look, it's
great that he bought Twitter. How about you know, throwing
some money into some other things. The guy's got his
hands full I'm not I'm not you know, I'm not complaining,
but I'm just throwing out the idea we could use
(07:58):
a whole lot more to rebuild trust and institutions, both
on and offline, and he could be a real leader
in that. Yeah, I don't think there's any doubt.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
I see this as a pretty big coup, and I'm
curious how people will respond to it. Musk will get
eviscerated right by the usual suspects on the left in
this country, but I'm sure musk perspective at least if
I were him, what I would say is, Hey, I
want Twitter to be the place where people come to
(08:28):
break news, and I don't want them to just break
news with tweets written. I want them to do video.
I want them to do audio. If Joe Biden wants
to sit down with me and have a Twitter spaces conversation,
This is me speaking as if I were Evel On Musk,
although we would say the same thing on this radio show. Hey,
if I'm sure we'll have Tim Scott and Ron DeSantis
(08:51):
at some point, I would bet this week on the program.
If Joe Biden buck wanted to come on and talk
to us for an hour. I would roll out the
red carpet in a heartbeat for Joe Biden, because I
think that would be important for our audience, but also
for everybody else out there who would consume it to
hear what Joe Biden sounds like when he actually gets
(09:11):
asked questions for an hour. We've had Trump on for
an hour at a time. So the way that I
would respond, I'm already thinking ahead for Elon is I
would say, look, Joe Biden wants to sit down and
talk with me for an hour on Twitter spaces, we'll
have him too. But Elon, I believe, and our staff
can correct me if I'm wrong, has already said on
Twitter that he's a desantist guy. So to me, this
(09:33):
feels like a personal sort of, you know, stamp of
approval from Elon. And again, can you think of a
guide buck if you are running for president right now?
Take it outside of your friend's family. You know that
you obviously want to support you, but a public figure.
Can you think of a more compelling public figure to
have endorse effectively your campaign than Elon?
Speaker 2 (09:56):
I mean, he's he's the richest man in the world,
he's a genius, and and he is single handily doing
more for free speech on the Internet than any other
person of the last I don't know, twenty years. So yeah,
it's pretty it's pretty big, pretty big, pretty helpful.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Yeah, and we'd have Elon on the show too, by
the way, Yeah, Elon, where are you?
Speaker 3 (10:17):
Elonly needs to come hang out with us sometimes. We
sad you mentioned before.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
But anyway, the news that is out there now, DeSantis
for those of you just getting in your car. Supposedly,
according to NBC News, going to announce on Twitter with
Elon Musk tomorrow evening. And can we say DeSantis is
scheduled to be on this program Thursday, after he has
already announced. We're trying to get Tim Scott with Ted
(10:42):
Nicky Hayley. The President Trump has a direct dial to
the program. We want this to be a forum where
everybody who's running for president can talk directly to you guys.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
The Trump phone has been set up. The Trump Phone
has been delivered, so to speak. He can call in
any time. Wait, we've told this team you gave it
to him in person. I did, so we're you know,
we're like, this is the same.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
You know.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Elon wants Twitter to be a forum on the right,
for conservatives, for Republicans. This is an audio forum, so
we will have all the different candidates on. We're going
to have the different individuals make their case to you.
We'll hear from people, you know, we had people calling yesterday.
I think Tim Scott's going to go all the way. Great,
you know Whoever, I get the occasional email that someone
says they're all in for VIVEC, which I do too.
(11:28):
It's surprising to me, but great, you know, Okay, I'm
glad someone's all in for VIVEC, you know. But we
will maintain the rush rule here. We do not endorse,
so everyone knows exactly where we're coming from. But I
think it's going to be a really fascinating conversation. And
also that those the first polls, what it would be
next week, it might might be a little bit of
(11:50):
a lag. I mean, you got to kind of let
things settle in. But the next two weeks or so,
we'll see a first set of real polls on where
this primary stands.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
I think that will be really interesting.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
I think it'll be also super interesting to see buck
how does DeSantis raise money coming out of the gate,
how much enthusiasm is there for him. We know that
he's raised a lot of money already, and this way
of announcing with the elon, I'm genuinely curious to see
because Trump has not raised Trumpian amounts of money, right
(12:23):
if you look at at least his disclosures, he has
not raised hundreds of millions of dollars. Did he raise
a billion dollars to run in twenty twenty before Alway says.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
A ton of money?
Speaker 2 (12:33):
I can't even remember now, But yes, his fundraising has
been paltry so far in the first uh first period
of this year. That's that's by Trump numbers, you know,
by his own standards.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
So that will give you an early read because again,
the amount of money you spend can adjust your poll
numbers fairly substantially. So to your point, yes, the early
poll numbers will be interesting, but also what do they spend?
Do they go ahead and like die full in? Because
Trump is spending money against DeSantis in a big way
right now? Does DeSantis just say screw it, we're gonna
spend twenty million dollars in this first month? I have
(13:04):
no idea. I'm fascinated to see.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
I believe Trump has spent more on OPO ads at
this point against DeSantis than the Trump aligned pack spent
on all the twenty twenty two elections. I think, I
think that's the uh.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
That's a big number. I saw that headline to repeat
that because I think it's a little bit hard to
the understand if you're not prepared. Let me, I want to.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Make sure that I'm that I'm squared away with with
reading the data properly in the numbers. But my understanding
is that Trump affiliated pack or whatever. I have to
find out the name of it, but essentially MAGA World
has spent more money against DeSantis so far than it's
(13:43):
spent in favor of twenty twenty two Republican candidates.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
That's wild to me. Wit that stat I mean that
is that is wild how much he's already spent.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
And and this is where you start to say, well,
here you go, Donald trum Trump. Maga Inc. Super Pac
intensifies its attacks on Ron DeSantis ahead of likely entry
in the presidential race, dropping two point eight million on
attack ads, bringing their anti Desantists spend to fifteen point
three million, blowing past the fifteen million dollars that MAGA Inc.
(14:18):
Spent on all twenty twenty two midterm races. From Rob
Pyres on Twitter. I've seen many others referring to this.
So Trump has spent more attacking DeSantis than the Trump
MAGA packs spent on all the mid terms for Republicans.
I think that's interesting. So we'll see where all this goes.
And want to hear from you. What are you excited?
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Do you think it's going to be a big change
in the race or do you think it's going to
go down like a lead balloon?
Speaker 1 (14:45):
You know?
Speaker 2 (14:46):
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Speaker 2 (16:05):
Like Target may be trying to learn the lessons of
bud Light. Here Fox News reporting the Target holding an
emergency meeting over LGBTQ merchandise in some stores to avoid
a bud Light situation.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
And you know, Clay, this is uh. There have been
a few people.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Actually, I spoke last night on a podcast with Alison Steinberg,
who's a One America news host, about her viral video
on this. She just went around to these different stores
and pointed out like the bathing suits that have the
you know that hide the man stuff Jenet penis. I
think I say it hides your penis. That's the point
(16:49):
of the bathing female a female. Target is selling female
bathing suits that hide your penis if you're a transgender person.
So yeah, and then also a whole bunch of other
you know, pride themed stuff.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Target does one hundred billion in sales.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Target getting ahead of this, I think goes to show
everybody why the bud light effect is so powerful.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Yeah. Look, this is the ultimate goal. Buck. For people
out there who said, oh, you know, I don't really
care about beer. I don't know why I should be
doing anything associated with bud light in general, the answer
is because forever businesses have become come to believe that
there's no consequences for being too far left wing, and
(17:36):
now suddenly there is a consequence right the meeting that
they would have to have to say, we don't want
to get bud lighted. That's something that everybody out there
needs to contemplate and think about every business, because I
think that's really the only way we ever get back
to complete normalcy in this country. Buck, is if people
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by the newest employee at OutKick, Charlie Arnault. She is
absolutely killing it. You may have seen her all over
Fox News certainly she is working on a new morning
show which we'll debut with OutKick. Excited to have Charlie
with us. Now, Charlie, what's been the biggest surprise for
you about leaving ESPN and coming to OutKick and starting
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to work for Fox as well. What has that experience
been like, what's the biggest surprise?
Speaker 4 (19:31):
Well, first of all, Hi, guys, I'm so excited to
be here, glad to bea happened. I would say the
best thing that I've experienced so far, the most refreshing
thing is I haven't been confined to talking about one
thing in particular. My opinions have been deemed to be
important in a lot of different discussions, which I wasn't
used to experiencing at ESPN. At ESPN, I was pretty
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much pigeonholed into more so just reading highlights and sports
copy off a prompter and little to know of my
opinions inserted in whatever we were talking about. Whereas at talks,
I mean I have run the gamut clay, as you know,
of the things that I've been asked to discuss and
talk about, things that are so prevalent, not just in sports,
but in our society as a whole and a lot
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of them that are tremendously affecting women right now. And
I'm really honored that my opinion is deemed to be
so important that broadcast wants to use me in so many,
so many different areas.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
All Right, we'll get to serious things with Buck here
in a moment.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
But it's serious things with Buck. That's like the segment,
Serious things with Buck.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
But it occurs to me that you are on the
program and you are a part of a major controversy
that we discussed on the program because you were the
fourth person sitting at a table when Jesse Kelly ordered
seventy five dollars Tekuila shots out of nowhere. Some people
will remember this you the first time we met. I
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actually took Buck out with me to meet you when
we were recruiting to get try to get you to
come to OutKick. But I want to go back to
that moment when Jesse Kelly ordered seventy five dollars shots.
You live in New York City. Did that strike you
as an aggressive move by Jesse to just order seventy
five dollars shots for the table since I was paying?
Speaker 4 (21:16):
Yeah, I'm super aggressive. I was I was talking to.
I didn't even know seventy five dollars tequila shots existed.
Of course, you know, as as the new person to
the group, I wasn't allowed to speak up. Otherwise I
totally would have given him hell for that. But you know,
I guess if you're not paying, why not throw it
on someone else's cab.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
There we go, spoken like a single woman in New
York City. By the way, I will mention.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
Yes, absolutely, but also remember that I wasn't a huge
fan of the seventy five dollars shot. I actually didn't
like it too much, and looking back, I feel like
maybe I didn't give it enough of an opportunity to
satisfy my taste. But so maybe another time in the future,
I'll let Jesse bring up some more seventy five dollars
shots on you or tab we'll see.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
We are speaking to rising Fox News and OutKick superstar
Charlie Arnold and Charlie to that end, I wanted to
ask you about hught. We talked about our friend Jesse Kelly,
who also is a syndicated radio host with Premier.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
A great guy.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
We're all friends with him. He has gotten attention to
the past for being very honest about his feelings when
it comes to the WNBA and the ratings. Explain this
to me, the Phoenix Mercury coach here is doing this
whole thing where she's saying she doesn't understand how it's
possible that the attendance at the Brittaney Griner return game
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was so low. Let's play twenty two and I have
Charlie react to it. Let's play clip twenty two.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
It was great, but like, honestly, come on, La, like
we didn't sell the arena.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Fir beg like I expected more, you know, to be.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Honest right, Like it was great, it was loud, But.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
How was How was it not a sellout? How was
it not a sellout? How often is it a sellout?
Charlie for the WNBA, I'm really I'm curious.
Speaker 4 (23:08):
How often is zero percent of the time it's a sellout?
I mean, here's the thing. Is not that many people
are shutting down all of their weekend plans to tune
in to what's going on in the NBA, or let
alone to attend a game in person. I think the
fact is most people in our country didn't even know
who Britney Grinder was until she went abroad and committed
(23:29):
a crime, and you know, she thankfully was gotten taken
out of a very sticky situation by the Biden administration.
But it doesn't mean that people are now obligated to
care about what she does in her professional career. I mean,
I just think it's crazy how people feel an obligation
or people say, oh, you don't respect people if you
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don't pay attention to this, and you don't care about this.
We all have a lot going on in our lives.
No offense to Britney Griner, but Britney Griner is not
a priority for most people.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
Charlie, You've been in sports for a while now, and
when I came in, I told Buck, hey, sports, whatever
you think of the political media, sports media has gone
so far left wing. I think it's even way more
left wing than the regular political media. And I'll just
ask you, and I'm curious if you would agree. But
a second part of that question, would you ever believe
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we've been in a position where it would be considered
by controversial by some members of the sports media to
say men should compete against men and women should compete
against women.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
Never never in my life. After especially we spent so
many years talking about how women deserve equal opportunity. You know,
they deserve to be on the same playing field and
level of competition as men. They deserve their own space,
They should have everything that men have. And now you know,
all the same people who are shouting, oh, women are
oppressed are now the ones who are going out of
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their way to oppress women. It makes absolutely no sense.
And I especially was looking at the story that recently
just came out about the transgendered team that finished second
in the California track meet, and that just completely blew
my mind, not just because the transgender athlete was able
to enter the competition and place second, putting another girl
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out of qualification to go onto a further meet down
the road, but also because of the fact that then
afterwards there was the girl that finished fourth and didn't
get to stand on the podium who did the thumbs downsign. Now,
I don't really know whether or not that was geared
towards the situation at hand, or she was just talking
about her own individual performance. I think that's still being debated,
but the fact that she was getting blowbacks for giving
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a thumbs downsign is so beyond me. Because she said
up every right to voice or disappointment, regardless of what
it's about, without people jumping down her throat. I think
it's crazy the world we're living in. And I feel
bad for the girls on the track team, or any
team for that matter, who feel uncomfortable about speaking up
because of the negative feedback they're bound to get from
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other people.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Charlie, does anyone that you used to work with the
ESPN who would publicly on air say that they think
that men should be able to compete in women's sports?
Obviously there's a tremendous amount of corporate pressure and you know,
jobs on the line, all that, I get it. Do
you think any of them really believe that?
Speaker 1 (26:15):
Though any of them, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
There's a lot of brainwashing going on at different networks.
I think we all are aware of that. I think
there are some people who truly have their minds. Their
minds have been absolutely warped. But I think you also
just look at ESPN as a whole. I mean, they're
following they're going down the same road that our government
is going down. I mean it's getting more extreme by
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the day because recall back in what was it, two
thousand and fifteen, maybe twenty sixteen, Caitlin Jenner was awarded
the Arthur ash Purge Award at the SPEs by ESPN
because they were seen as a celebrated individual for speaking
up for themselves being an athlete, you know, becoming transgender.
Kitlyn Jenner guaranteed would not be welcome on ESPN's air
(27:04):
because the talking points that Caitlyn Jenner is now preaching,
which are the ones that I am in line with,
no longer fit within the ESPN narrative. So it's kind
of crazy to think about the flipping back and forth
at ESPN, even just themselves have gone through in the
past few years.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Charlie, going back to what you just said about ESPN
and Buck asked a good question about how many people
privately would say something different than what they say publicly.
How much fear did you get the sense there was
in sports from so many people who were afraid of
saying what they really thought for what the reaction might be,
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either in the corporate suite or on social media. In
other words, how much dishonesty is there even in the
world of sports now?
Speaker 4 (27:50):
Well, you can see when you watch ESPN there's little
to no debate as it pertains to these issues. In fact,
most of the time they're not even addressed because they're
not allowed to be a debate about them. So I
think that if anyone has a different opinion, they just
keep it to themselves because they know better. I mean,
no one wants to lose their job over voicing an opinion.
It's it's not worth it, which is why for me example.
For me as an example, I just didn't even really
(28:12):
get on Twitter for the past couple of years because
I knew no matter what I said about anything, there
was going to be someone that was overly sensitive and
it would be blown out of proportion and I would
probably get a talking to by one of my bosses.
So I just let that go, even despite the fact
that I had a podcast first take her take that
I was one of the three co hosts on where
we did broach subjects that would be on sports. But
(28:35):
even still in that atmosphere, I didn't feel comfortable talking
about a lot of things. And I still to this
day when I look back and say, you know, should
I have maybe pushed the boundaries a little bit more?
I still say no, because even if my bosses wouldn't
have maybe said anything to me. I think my two
co hosts would have felt a certain type of way
(28:55):
towards me for voicing certain opinions that I may have had,
and that would have just lead led to have time
on the show. So yeah, there was absolutely no atmosphere
in which differing opinions were welcome. And I think even
when you talk about the whole COVID era that we
experienced and you saw people from ESPN losing their jobs
to refuse to get the vaccine, I mean, there was
just no space for any type of differing opinion on
(29:17):
any field.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Charlie Arnold with US. Now, Charlie, where should folks go
to follow your work and see what you're off to
over at Outkicking on Fox.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
Yes, well right now, that would be all over the
place you can find me. Of course, on OutKick it'll
be starting in August, I'll be hosting a morning show
seven to nine am Monday through Friday. But until then
you can catch me on Outkicks social media pages. I'm
going to be starting to do more segments for them,
as well as having a regular guest spot on Hot
(29:47):
Mic and also Dan Dokt's show Don't At Me. And
then as far as Fox is concerned, all over the place.
I'll be on Sean Hannity's show tonight, and I will
be on the bottom Line on Fox Business on Thursday,
and then if you happen to be a fan of
Power Slap, UFT's newest venture, I will be live reporting
(30:09):
during that event on Rumble on Wednesday.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
Is that where the men slap each other as hard
as they get in the face.
Speaker 4 (30:16):
Yes, yes it is. Are you interested because I know something.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
We've talked about it on the We've talked about it
on the program. Bluck was blown away that it existed,
like we came on and talked about it.
Speaker 4 (30:26):
Oh yeah, not only does it exist, it's doing really,
really well. Dana White is so big on power Slap
that he is just blowing it up in every which
way that he possibly can.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
Thank you, Charlie Arnold, everybody. Charlie, You're awesome. Thanks for
coming to hang with us.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
And Clay has already told me I have to get
up early in the morning one day so I can
do the OutKick Morning Show.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
But the first time I've been up before eight am
in a long time.
Speaker 4 (30:47):
But thank you, it's a much Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Absolutely thanks for being with us, Clay when they look
at the the end of Western civilization, you know, in
like five hundred years hence, when there's the decline and
fall of American Empire, I think the Special Slap in
the Face League is going to be a chapter in
the book about how it all came crumbling down. I'm
just gonna say it, Special Slap League or are you?
(31:14):
Are you going to defend special Slap in the Face.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
I'm just gonna say I am so convinced that everybody
has lost their minds that this is like the apex
of masculinity almost right. You just stare across somebody and
hit them in the face as hard as you can.
A part of me feels like we need more gladiatorial
style combat. I was watching Gladiator my wife, my wife's
favorite movie of all time. She introduced it to all
(31:37):
the boys last week. Very solid, top five for me,
maybe top three, very solid. It's a great movie. And
she actually said, I feel like every year on my
birthday we should all sit around and watch Gladiator. So
my wife obviously is is tougher probably than me for sure,
But I was watching it and I was thinking modern
(31:59):
day gladiator, real combat. It's certainly on some level, I think,
like maybe the NFL, but it's such a raw, violent
masculine act that I feel like, in many ways we
need more masculinity in the country. And so I'll tie
it in with the power slap there, And now your
mind is blocked. The part of you is like, I
(32:20):
kind of I'm gonna go.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
Get I'm sitting here.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
I cannot I cannot believe we're pretending like power slap
is not, you know, degenerously.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
But anyway, it's okay.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
That's all right to each his own, you know, just
with some guy's tooth goes flying out of his mouth.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
I mean, you can die while boxing, right, that's not uncommon.
So I mean I feel like we kind of a
a UFC is pretty pretty uh pretty rough at times.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Right, you know what's next, like who can take the
most paddling on their behind or something?
Speaker 3 (32:49):
Thank you sir.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
I having a lot of people pay for that. That's
democrats in particular. You know, some people do need a
lot more testosterone, that is for sure. In fact, a
lot of people need more testoster or not so much
that you're trying to slap the teeth out of someone's
face on TV.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
But they could definitely use a little extra.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
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that's like. You get older, your t levels or something
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Speaker 1 (34:25):
Sunday hang with Clay and Bucking a new podcast. Find
it on the iHeart app or wherever you get your podcasts.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
Welcome back Clay and Buck here closing up shop today,
and uh just congrats to uh klays Hire over at
OutKick Charlie Arnold for doing great work over there already.
And look, she's gonna be for a lot of you
who are uh you know, Fox and OutKick fans. She's
gonna be a name that you see and and you know,
someone you see more and more of. So appreciate her
(34:56):
making time for us. If you missed any part of
our show today, please go check out the Clay and
Buck podcast.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
We're gonna try to get to a couple of calls here.
But Clay, do you.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
Want to just give us a quick like the thirty
second version of what We're gonna probably spend a full
hour of the show on tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
Yeah, Especial Council.
Speaker 5 (35:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
According to the Wall Street Journal is basically wrapping up
the mar A Lago probe and they have interviewed everyone
and decisions on charges are coming very soon. I guarantee
you we'll be talking about that tomorrow. That's a Wall
Street Journal take analysis of the Jack Smith investigation.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
Jordan in North Carolina, you've been holding what's going on?
Speaker 1 (35:38):
Jordan?
Speaker 5 (35:40):
What's up? Guys? Amazon driver? Jordan here yo. I could
not be more pumped about the Santists announcing with Elon.
For the biggest reason is because all the Trump people
they just want to put their heads in the sand
and act like he's the greatest candidate we can have.
That are saying old DeSantis is like with the Bushes,
Oh Soros, all that crap. This is the kind of
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people that Destantus associates with. Elon freaking muck like he's
intelligent with shows the Santas level of intelligence, Like it
could not have been a better move on his part,
Like I cannot wait to see it.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
Jordan thank you for the call and eyes on the road.
Stay safe, our friend. Thanks for being with us. All right,
look for all because we have a lot of Trump
calls in right now of people call back tomorrow. I
promise we're gonna have a lot of days to get
into this. The announcement from DeSantis is going to be
tomorrow the next day. So to make your case for
why Trump is your guy, We're gonna give you airtime
(36:41):
to where we are though you know the radio stations
are going to go to other shows soon here, so.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
Let me tell you this. By the way, Jesse Kelly
has already fired back at Charlie's comments about the seventy
five dollars tequila shots. I'm sad to say Clay Travis
and Buck Sexton have both obfuscated the truth. No, no, no,
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