November 24, 2022 • 34 mins
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Happy Thanksgiving, Weird. Thankful for you on this Thanksgiving Day
for being a listener here on the Clay Travis and
Buck Sexton Show. You're listening to the best of Clay
Travis and Buck Sexton. One thing that is a constant,
as you all know that the Democrat corporate media lies
to you all the time, constantly pushing an agenda. Journalism
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as a profession is something that people don't view the
same way they used to. And that's a good thing
because it really is worrying propaganda machines out there. They're
pushing agendas, they aren't bringing you just facts. You all
know that. And I actually saw today that the most
regretted above even gender studies and sociology and communications. There
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was some up poll that was circulating some data out
there this morning that the most regretted major was journalism,
because you know what journalism is, reading and writing and communicating.
You're not getting a leg up on everybody else by
studying journalism in school. In fact, I even know people
who have taught at top J schools journalism schools, and
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they will tell people quietly it's a waste of time
and money. Don't do it. But the journals, Clay are relentless,
they are true believers in their First of all, they're
this really noxious combination of incredibly arrogant and condescending but
also deeply insecure and aware of the fact that they're
all very replaceable. So it's a difficult personality type to handle,
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to manage. But we have yet another instance of the
fake news, great term that President Trump gave us, the
fake news, showing us what they're really all about. NBC
News reporter Miguel al McGuire, I think that's right, was
suspended over his now retract did Paul Pelosi story? So
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he reported, if we all remember, remember the Paul Pelosi
story that got so much attention, God was attacked. It
was a vicious attack. But people were asking some questions,
as I said, Clay, just on a security basis, how
does this guy just walk into the home of I mean,
I would assume the Capitol police had cameras, they were there,
they were asleep at the wheel. No, not ask any
questions though it was a right wing Trump supporter. They
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said that it's I mean, which this guy's just clearly
completely out of his mind. But so Miguel almaguerre reported
that Nancy Pelosi's husband Paul didn't let on that he
was in danger when the police were at his home
right away. And so there were some questions about this,
and Clay, this is early stage reporting. I mean, think
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about all the reporting on something far more serious and
horrific than this, like this shooting at Uvalde. Clearly so
much reporting that was completely wrong. Now in this case,
al McGuire, it's not believe he didn't fabricate it. This
is just what was reported to him by law enforcement sources,
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I would assume at the time. And they are suspending it.
I mean, he is getting and this is now public,
he's getting an official punishment for this. Ely, I'll sit
here and go Okay. So you upset the Libs, you
upset the Democrat narrative in some way, Clay, or make
things even more difficult for a news cycle for them,
and there are professional consequences. But you lie about Russia
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collusion for four years, you get a pulitzer. That's where
we are, Okay, And I would just point out they
could easily have eliminated all of this uncertainty by releasing
some of the bodycam footage the police officers have bodycams
on them. If they wanted to get the full story
out there, they have the charges that they have brought
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against this guy. At some point they could have just
released the bodycam footage. How often do you see bodycam
footage out there from police in tumultuous, controversial cases all
the time. And your point on Uvalde is a great one.
Everything that we were told initially on the Uval Day
School shooting ended up being a lie. Everything just about
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and so every reporter got it wrong because they were
lied to. It's really really amazing. I mean, this was
a Today Show report that they pulled off of the
NBC website that they took completely down, and now they
are castigating and chastising this reporter because he said something.
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We still don't know one hundred percent what the story
is here because we haven't seen the full footage or
the full details come out. They just he said something
that upset the Democrat Party and as a result, NBC
News the same. We can't have this. Have you heard?
It's just a good question for everybody out there. Have
you heard of any journalist at NBCCBS, ABC, Washington Post,
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New York Times, MSNBCCNN, have any journalist been suspended for
any Russia collusion report at all. You mentioned this, but
I mean just one. I haven't seen it publicly that
anybody has been suspended themselves awards for fake legitimate fake news.
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I mean, and I think this is instructive. I mean,
it's all about the area, the purpose of the narrative.
We all know it. It's very obvious. We have to
keep hammering it though, because you should not ever lull
yourself into thinking or allow yourself to think, well, maybe
the journals are going back towards the center, and you
know they've realized the error of their ways. Are you
kidding me? I mean, President Trump is likely announcing his
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run for the presidency tonight. Right to be president for
four more years. I've been saying this is you know,
Clay and every listening for quite some time. The media
is just waiting for this, and then all the anti
Trump machinery kicks right back into place. CNN's talking about
the insurrection twenty four to seven. I mean, this is
what many of them think they need really for for ratings.
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So it's not like they've actually decided that what they
did in the past was partisan, dishonest and wrong. But
I will say, on the upside of things, you do
have this Elon Musk takeover of Twitter still playing out.
There's a couple of bugs, you know, there's a couple
of little issues here and there, just as the site goes,
because Clay and I are both very active on it,
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and this may mean that we will have a site
that has true free speech and real free speech implications
going into the next election cycle that we really didn't
in this last one. And everyone I know, I'm sure
you've seen the same thing, Clay, all of a sudden,
all these conservatives, you know, your engagements up fifty percent,
your follow accounts going up more than it has. Everything
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that we said about how they were throttling, and it's
all true. They were doing all kinds of shenanigans behind
the scenes of Twitter. The psycho woke libs were playing
every game they could to help their side and make
it all seem like it was on the up and up.
It's a free exchange of idea site. But this is
pretty amazing. Elon tweeted out, this is actually on November thirteenth.
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I'd like to apologize for Twitter being super slow in
many countries. App is doing over a thousand poorly batch
rpcs just to render a home timeline. Now, to be fair,
I have no idea what that means. Yeah, I mean
like I'm not pretending at all about any of this stuff.
I mean I sometimes Kerry has to help me, like
switch from the smart TV to the old TV. You know,
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I'm not great at this stuff. People like you were
in the CIA. I'm like, yeah, we had smart people
who did that stuff in the CIA too. This guy, though,
Eric Fraunoffer, responds to Elon Musk, who is his boss,
apparently a Twitter I have spent six years working on
Twitter for Android and can say this is wrong, gets
one hundred and two thousand likes. And then some guy
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who goes by the moniker money nerd tech, well, I
think probably does know about this stuff. I have been
a developer for twenty years, and I can tell you,
as the domain expert here, you should inform your boss privately.
Trying to one up him in public while he's trying
to learn and be helpful makes you look like a spiteful,
self serving dev For developer, mister Eric Frohnifer writes, maybe
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he should ask questions privately, maybe using slacker email, and
then Elon just tweets in he's fired, and he is.
It turns out, messing with the richest man in the
world who is also your boss and the new CEO
of your company is a bad idea. Wokesters, I love this.
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Let me also just I said this on Fox News
earlier today because we were talking about this story a
little bit. You cannot believe that Elon Musk is going
to have success at Twitter. But there are a lot
of blue checks running around like, oh, Elon Musk doesn't
understand Twitter, he has no hope. This guy is better
at spending at sending rocket ships to space than NASA is,
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and he totally remade the way that we power cars,
both of those things. If you told me right now, Buck,
like twenty years ago, Hey, I think I can send
rockets to space better than NASA, cheaper, more efficiently, and
I can return them, most people would say that's a
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that's a really tall order. And if you also said simultaneously,
and while I'm doing that, I'm going to redesign cars
so that we don't have to rely on gas, and
I'm going to electric power them and all these other things,
a lot of people would say that's really difficult to
do figuring out a social media app and configuring it
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and analyzing it. And compared to that, compared to sending
rocket ships to space better than NASA and designing cars
without the combustion engine, this is not very complicated. So
I'm not sure whether the big business of Twitter is
going to be a success, because I think there's certainly
bet you can place on that. But the idea that
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Elon Musk is not going to be able to understand
the mechanics of Twitter, which this little software engineer, developer,
whoever he was, was sniping at Elon Musk. This is
one of the most brilliant people on the planet, and
he's already succeeded in literal rocket ship making and also
now in the car business by redesigning combustion engine. I
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think he's probably gonna be able to handle Twitter. I'm
just placing my bet down on this guy can figure
it out. I'm just also, you know, I don't do
the hero worship thing, but I do live in reality,
and I think when someone is the richest man on
the planet because they've done the things that you've laid
out there, like maybe show a little respect you know
what I mean, maybe I'll be like, oh, mister idiot,
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Elon doesn't know anything about the back end machinations of
the I can't. I don't even know what you call
this thing the software. Once you start getting the computer side,
I mean, it is a totally might as well be
speaking Mandarin. I have no idea what's going on. I'm
like you in terms of tech. I mean, I run
a media company, and we've got a lot of tech
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obviously involved in that media company. I mean, when I
want to watch Thursday night football on Amazon, I have
to call in my wife or my kids to figure
out how to get on Amazon streaming as opposed to
a traditional cable, Like I hate trying to find sporting
events now on my television because they're streamed so many
different ways. But you know, I still think I'm gonna
tell you this now. I think I'm gonna be able
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to beat my kids one day in video games. I
feel like old school Nintendo got us very primed for this.
I see everything sorely mistaken. I think like FIFA twenty
thirty five is going to come out on PlayStation nineteen
or whatever, and I'm gonna I'm gonna be schooling my kids.
I think that, you know, the gap is not as
big as people I will say. They have gotten me
to play Fortnite against them, They've gotten me to try
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to do the Minecraft building. And I grew up on
the h I grew up on video games. Now, you
may have played video games longer than me, right, because
when I started having kids, like, they got years of
advantage on me. Like they used something called the pinball machine.
That was the that was the state of the art,
you know, when Clay was coming up the rigs. I'm
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really I could beat them in tech Mobowl. You know,
you want to play tech Mobowl, you want to play
RBI Baseball, you want to play uh, you want to
play the old school Nintendo eight bit games. I'll wreck
these kids. But but when it comes to the modern
day Madden, uh, they let dad have it pretty bad. Yeah,
well there you have. So I'm just I'm just saying
that your prediction may may actually be if somebody somebody,
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if somebody gun to your head says greatest for you
at the time, greatest video game that you ever played?
What would it be, Techmo super Bowl, greatest video game
ever created? Um first one with eleven players like it's
the best game ever. What about jib Meyer's Original Civilization
for me, even though that is not a computer game. Yes,
very nerve are best game ever was a computer game.
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It was amazing. Yeah. I used to play as Montezuma
and then just end up knuking everybody. It was phenomenal.
Blades of Steel, Baseball Stars, RBI Baseball, um, the original Techmobowl,
all of those would be in my contra back in
the day. Remember I loved the Contributeo game. I also
on N sixty four, I remember the Golden Eye video
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game multiplayer. Oh, everybody played. That was revolutionary in its time.
And Mario Card. There were some people who would imbube
illegal substances and play the Mario card. You say Mario,
isn't it Mario? You say Mario Mario? Just you might
have just caught me be doing the weird I might
have just pulled the clay there with my pronunciation. Just
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isn't it super Mario Brothers? You would say super Mario Brothers?
Is that the way I think it's I think you're right.
I think it's Mario, like it's Mario and Luigi. Right,
Is it Mario or Mario Lopez, for example, Mario Lopez. Yeah,
so it's it's Mario. I think I don't know now.
You guys called me mister Nevada. You just caught me
right there, you go, Nevada, I got it right, ted
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it up. People have noticed too. Our Nevada listeners are like,
thank you. Clay didn't help though, And although I guess
Lombardo got the win, I would have liked to have
been able to celebrate two wins. Laxalt is officially conceded,
by the way. Unfortunately, Welcome back in, Clay, Travis buck Sexton,
show Buck, you mentioned this in the open. I want
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to make sure I remember to hit it so there.
Yesterday was a front page story in the New York
Times about the dangers of transgender surgeries for miners and
also puberty blockers. And it's a fascinating story that they
finally acknowledged is a real issue. And it's a, you know,
several thousand words story. But what I thought was intriguing was,
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and we made these analogies before, and I wonder whether
there's somebody like who's kind of a mole inside of
the New York Times that thought to do this in
the print edition. Yes, I'm an old man. I read
the print newspaper. When you finished that article about the
transgender the surgeries, and also the puberty blockers. There was
an article about a ten year old who got a tattoo.
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And in that article about a ten year old who
got a tattoo, they quoted several experts as saying, how
in the world could any parent let their ten year
old get a tattoo. Kids who are that young don't
have the ability to make life altering decisions. I'm paraphrasing.
Yet there were many experts in the article about the
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puberty blockers saying, well, if a twelve year old decides
they don't want to go into puberty, we should definitely
do it. And the overriding story year Buck was that
when you get puberty blockers, your bones don't develop like
they normally would, and many of these kids are facing
osteoporosis issues where their bones are brittle because puberty is
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when many kids I didn't know this, but your bones
strengthened to a large degree to support you being able
to handle an adult body, and many of these kids
getting puberty blockers are having issues with their bone strength.
In addition to all the issues that might arise obviously
from changing your gender while you're still under eighteen years old.
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So there's something you know called body integrity identity disorder,
which is when somebody wants to amputate a healthy limb.
This is a real psychological condition. I believe it is
still in the DSM. I think it is still something
that the medical community, psychiatric medical community, will will talk about.
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There was a story place as we discussing this yesterday
in on Vice, which is a very left wing so
called news organizations like a left wing blog. Trans people
are seeking non binary bottom surgeries. Let's talk about that
when we come back. What does that even mean? Everybody.
We'll talk about this in just a moment. While there
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was much discussion before the midterm election about issues like
transcender indoctrination in schools, which they still want to do,
and Drag Queen, not just Drag Queen Story Hour, but
these kind of drag Queen strip shows in front of
small children, you know, the dancing up on the polls
or whatever. All this stuff that goes on. It's weird,
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it's inappropriate. We all know this, well, not everybody, but
everyone listening to this knows that and this was new.
I had never heard of this before. And now I
want to point out this is reported on in Vice,
which is it's essentially like the place for very far
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left wing hipsters with you know, this is like a
very far left wing website. I'll put it you that way.
A lot of a lot of nose rings and blue
hair and you know, Black Lives Matter and announcing pronouns
and get your six vac shots. That's kind of the
Vice vibe. So it's they're reporting on this. Trans people
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are seeking non binary bottom surgeries. Is the story here
across the gender spectrum. I'm quoting everybody. Some patients are
looking for mixed sets of genitals or none at all,
and actually receiving this affirming care isn't easy. Okay, a
couple things here, Clay, before I let you let you
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get into this situation. First of all, you can tell
by the subhead here, the subheadline that the problem here is,
oh my gosh, we're not letting people easily get mixed
genital sets or no genital sets. I want to be clear.
In this article they go into there are now transgender
self identified individuals who want surgery to have both a
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penis and a vaginas simultaneously because that is their gender
identity journey or I'm not even sure which is I
mean this. I think this is probably the more strange
one to have all genitalia removed entirely and have only
you know, a urinary tract effectively in that area. This
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is a thing that is happening, and some doctors are
being told by their patients that this is the surgery
that they want. Would I would wonder within the trans
left wing activist community, on what basis this is their truth?
On what basis will they tell them they can't do this? Yeah,
this is all crazy. And my general belief is if
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you're over eighteen years old and you want to make
crazy choices for yourself, you can do it. I think
it's unlikely to lead to you being happier. I think
many of these people are psychologically broken and they feel
like they need to take gray the action in order
to make themselves happy. And I respect very often after
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all these surgeries, they think, oh, if I just did this,
I would be happy if I just felt and then
they aren't right. But this is next level crazy. This
is just at some point there is a difference between.
I mean the analogy on Halloween, which is, if your
kid dresses up like a cowboys and Indians, then it's
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totally unacceptable. But if an adult decides that they want
to change their gender and they demand that you use
the pronouns of their choice, it's permissible. The line I
think Matt Walsh added in his in his what is
a Woman piece, which I thought was really good, is
you don't get to pick your adjectives, right, so take
away the pronoun thing like I'm gonna share my pronouns
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with you or whatever else, But I don't get to say.
You can only refer to me as handsome, you can
only refer to me as brilliant, you can only refer
to me as a genius. Like you. Everybody out there
can make their own determinations about how you see me,
or you or anyone else. This idea that you can
demand your pronouns is crazy, and I don't know where
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the trans agenda goes, but it feels like many people
increasingly are saying, Hey, you wanted to change your gender
or whatever, but you've You've gone off the crazy train.
So what would be fascinating to me? And remember, we
can call this and I do think this is mental illness.
I'm not a doctor, but I would I would make
the argument as a layperson that that's what's going on here,
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that Clay what we It keeps getting crazier and they
don't stop. I think we need to be very cognizant
of that, meaning that the more you know, it was oh,
just use my pronouns, and now it's oh, I get
to compete against the opposite gender and use their locker
rooms or else you're a bigot and the bid. The administration,
by the way, may go back to giving Title nine
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protection to transgender athletes, which means the whole thing then
is just a free for all for anybody who wants
to compete against the other gender. You have people demanding
that they are put in a woman's prison, even if
they're a man with a penis. They just say, I'm
a woman, so put me in the woman's prison. It
keeps getting crazier. This is the nature of this movement,
of this situation. It never stops. And this is oh.
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And I would say the most recent manifestation we have
seen is the we got to get the kids to
do this. We gotta get twelve year olds to take
the Cubert you know, that's the that's and now a
level beyond that is individuals who are saying, I want
to have no genitalia. I have a right to have
a medical profession. Remember, this is a serious surgery with
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all kinds of calm. I mean, you're not you know
this is this is not growing your hair out and
putting on lipstick. I mean this is something you got
to be put on general anesthesia, you got to have
a surgeon, all this stuff. They want doctors to remove
all genitals. So sort of like you know kenn and
Barbie Doll situation here, that is what they are demanding.
And what's fascinating is that they're getting pushed back from
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within the trans community, according to this article, for making
it seem too crazy. That's what's so interesting. So finally
wokeness has now turned on wokeness and they're trying to
figure out can we make this next step happen. I'm
gonna tell you something. They're gonna keep pushing this. You
know what they tried for a little there are a
couple of articles. One thing they tried for a little
while is you are a bigot. If you're a man
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who is not attracted to a trans female because trans
women or women, you're a biggot. They actually, like Huffington
Post had some articles about this that didn't work. I
think they're gonna try this one next, which is that, hey,
if you want to have both sets, so to speak,
it's fine. It's fine. And by the way, Joe Biden
will have some influencer to the White House and they'll say, oh, God,
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bless you. You know you got the two sets. He's
fine with this. The White House goes along with all
of this. I just don't know where we go from here.
I almost, by the way, Clay almost flabbergasted with this one,
which I've almost never seen. I can barely I just
when you told me about this, Like basically, the way
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to think of it is like if you've ever seen
a Barbie doll or a kin doll. People are just
wiping their entire genitals out. I don't even know. Like
this is clearly psychological, like they are like clearly like
mentally ill. Right. Body identity integrity disorder is something that
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people that are critical of the trans agenda and activism
have been bringing up for years because people realize that
you're asking a surgeon too. I don't like my left arm.
Remove my left arm. That is essentially, you know, boiled
down what we're talking about here, This is that now
basically remove everything down there. This is body integrity identity disorder,
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which the transactivist community was always saying, well, we would,
that's totally different. This is about living your truth. It's
actually not that different. It's just crazy. And I don't
know how we get back to not being crazy, honestly.
It's spend a lot of time thinking about that. On
the one hand, I'm encouraged when people of the left
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start to speak out about reality. On the other hand,
I also remember that they pushed the culture and the
media to the point where now unreality is fashionable and
actually mandatory in so many ways. You see in the
Atlantic they're saying, you know, there's really not clearer evidence
that men are stronger and faster than women. I saw that.
I couldn't believe that. I mean, they folks, they're they're crazy.
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I mean, they are zealots of lunacy. And this is
what is mandatory now on the left. But anyway, Bill
maher over on his show, and I think at some
level this is driven by he's frustrated that he's not
allowed to really be a comedian anymore, at least not
a not really right. I mean, he can make certain
jokes and haha, you know Donald Trump, haha, but you
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can't really push boundaries very much. And on the historical
stuff we're just talking. I was talking about the Guns
of August and the funeral of King Edward the Seventh
in nineteen ten. And I'm sure we could go through
all the assembled monarchs of Europe who were there and
find that a lot of them were insufficiently devoted to
LGBTQ plus rights, a lot of them were insufficiently woken
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when we were another. But that would be a bizarre exercise, really,
Like what's the point of it? Presentism is what Bill
Moore calls, this phenomenon of judging everything in history by
the standards of today. Here's how we teach our kids.
History has become a big controversy these days, with liberals
accusing conservatives of wanting to whitewash the past. And sometimes
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that's true. Sometimes they do, but plenty of liberals also
want to abuse history to control the present, and last month,
a scholar named James Sweet called hell for calling them
out for doing just that. He criticized the phenomenon known
as present ism, which means judging everyone in the past
by the standards of the present. It's the belief that
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people that lived a hundred or five hundred or a
thousand years ago really should have known better. On the
one hand, Clay, we can talk about just the way
that this is. It's absurd and makes no sense because
what are the outer limits of it? But I think
it's really more to the point for everyone to know
this is just about power, and it's actually about controlling
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the present. It is effectively creating narratives meant to destroy
so much of what our society is built on historically
and our understandings of how we got to where we are,
and replace it with something else. If you can destroy
the moral legitimacy of the men who created the Constitution
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and the Declaration of Independence, then you can say that
Constitution doesn't speak for America today, and you can demand
that all of the foundational elements of American democracy are legitimate.
And it's wild to me that Mayor Muriel Bowser, who
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will talk about in a minute in Washington, d C.
She endorsed the idea of renaming I believe Washington, DC,
and the idea of tearing down the Jefferson Memorial as
well as potentially the Washington Monument over the fact that
both of those Virginians owned slaves in their era. And
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maybe we can grab the part of Bill Maher's monologue
which I thought was really good. We have created this
world in America today which is founded through the sixteen
nineteen project, which New York Times has put all their
power behind, as if America was the only place that
ever had slaves and that slavery didn't exist anywhere else
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in the history of the world, when the reality is,
every single person listening to us right now, at some
point in time had ancestors who wore slaves. That is
one hundred percent true. Now I'm not saying that they
were slaves in the United States or in the United
States colonies, but every single person listening to us right now,
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if you go far enough back, has ancestors who wore
slaves at some point in world history. Because slavery was everywhere,
every single society practiced it. I mean, read the Bible.
The Bible, as Bill Maher points out, discusses slavery all
the time, it was commonplace that if your tribe defeated
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another tribe, you killed most of the men or made
them slaves and took the women and children into your
own tribe. That existed everywhere, that existed in Native American culture,
where everybody wants to pretend was like this Bucolic without
flaw country here at land Mass before Europeans arrived. The
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term slave, we believe it comes from Eastern Europe and
Slavs because of the Muslim slave trade, which involved a
lot of white Christian Europeans enslaved over a period of centuries,
which is often not talked about today. The Muslim the
Barbary coursers of North Africa went as far as Ireland
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and actually Iceland, believe it or not, on slave raiding
missions and they took people. They took the women for harems,
and the men. Not to keep them for long periods
of time. It was to have them run or the
ships of galleys where they would die essentially at the
or they'd put them in minds where the conditions were
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so horrific that they would die. And they just kept
a steady stream of people to come in and die.
In North Africa a few million people over a few centuries.
No one talks in even in the sixteen nineteen project,
about the fact that the African slaves were being initially enslaved,
saved by other Africans who were then taking the people
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that they had enslaved and selling them into the Transatlantic
slave trade. But it's as if those people don't exist.
Maybe we'll grab that short period because you're exactly right.
But Bill Maher basically talks about that in his monologue
The Legacy of Slavery. We've descended it to the point
where the United States, according to left wingers, is the
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only place that has ever had slavery, and that that
original sin is such a stain upon this society that
there is no legitimacy in rooted anywhere in our historical past.
It's a lie, but it's a powerful lie, and it's
one that needs to be refuted on the historical record.
And one of the things that has become paramount is
the idea of the United States is a horrible racist
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country and therefore has no legitimacy behind its government. Buck
and I talked about this, I believe to finish off
the Hour to Day about the history of slavery and
the fact that it existed everywhere. Bill Maher did a
good job in his monologue Listen to this. Everybody who
could afford one had a slave, including people of color.
The way people talk about slavery these days, you'd think
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it was a uniquely American thing that we invented in
sixteen nineteen. But slavery throughout history has been the rule,
not the exception. The Sumerians, the Egyptians, the Greeks, Romans,
the Arabs, British, the early Americans. The Holy Bible is
practically an owner's manual for slaveholders. The word slave comes
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from slav because so many Slavic people were enslaved, and
they're as white as the Hallmark Channel. Who do you
think gathered the slaves from the interior of Africa to
sell to slave traders Africans who also kept their own slaves.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. Humans
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are not good people, all right. So that's a pretty
good history of I didn't know about it went into
the etymology of the word slave there, but yes, that
that is. You know, you left out the Aztec Empire,
which was when Cortez arrived build not only upon mass slavery,
but also mass human sacrifice, including the human sacrifice of
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children who were slaves by taking as slaves and then
sacrifice in the most gruesome ways. But you know, indigenous
people were told they're all in harmony with the environment,
and you know, it's everyone thinks that that this is
like that they were living in some Disney cartoon before
we arrived. There are other native tribes, by the way,
in this country who also enslaved other native tribes. The
Vikings had a massive or I shouldn't say massive, wasn't
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that many of them, but had a longstanding practice of
slaves and slavery. This was the constant and human history
throughout all conquests and warfare. But we're only supposed to
talk about it in the context of America, yep. And
here's the context. We hardly even talk about buck. The
vast majority of slavery that took place in the United
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States was pre the United States, so from sixteen nineteen
to seventeen eighty three until we became an independent country.
Arguably England would be on the hook for that one
hundred and sixty years or so. We only had slavery
in the United States for eighty years. I remember when
I was in the museum in Charleston that was originally
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a slave market that they've turned down into museum. There's
a statistic that people, I think very people know three
percent of Southern as I believe, had ninety seven percent
of the slaves. Hardly any Southern soldiers on a per
capita basis in the Civil War actually had slaves. It's
a tiny, tiny percentage.
Happy Thanksgiving, Weird. Thankful for you on this Thanksgiving Day
for being a listener here on the Clay Travis and
Buck Sexton Show. You're listening to the best of Clay
Travis and Buck Sexton. One thing that is a constant,
as you all know that the Democrat corporate media lies
to you all the time, constantly pushing an agenda. Journalism
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as a profession is something that people don't view the
same way they used to. And that's a good thing
because it really is worrying propaganda machines out there. They're
pushing agendas, they aren't bringing you just facts. You all
know that. And I actually saw today that the most
regretted above even gender studies and sociology and communications. There
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was some up poll that was circulating some data out
there this morning that the most regretted major was journalism,
because you know what journalism is, reading and writing and communicating.
You're not getting a leg up on everybody else by
studying journalism in school. In fact, I even know people
who have taught at top J schools journalism schools, and
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they will tell people quietly it's a waste of time
and money. Don't do it. But the journals, Clay are relentless,
they are true believers in their First of all, they're
this really noxious combination of incredibly arrogant and condescending but
also deeply insecure and aware of the fact that they're
all very replaceable. So it's a difficult personality type to handle,
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to manage. But we have yet another instance of the
fake news, great term that President Trump gave us, the
fake news, showing us what they're really all about. NBC
News reporter Miguel al McGuire, I think that's right, was
suspended over his now retract did Paul Pelosi story? So
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he reported, if we all remember, remember the Paul Pelosi
story that got so much attention, God was attacked. It
was a vicious attack. But people were asking some questions,
as I said, Clay, just on a security basis, how
does this guy just walk into the home of I mean,
I would assume the Capitol police had cameras, they were there,
they were asleep at the wheel. No, not ask any
questions though it was a right wing Trump supporter. They
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said that it's I mean, which this guy's just clearly
completely out of his mind. But so Miguel almaguerre reported
that Nancy Pelosi's husband Paul didn't let on that he
was in danger when the police were at his home
right away. And so there were some questions about this,
and Clay, this is early stage reporting. I mean, think
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about all the reporting on something far more serious and
horrific than this, like this shooting at Uvalde. Clearly so
much reporting that was completely wrong. Now in this case,
al McGuire, it's not believe he didn't fabricate it. This
is just what was reported to him by law enforcement sources,
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I would assume at the time. And they are suspending it.
I mean, he is getting and this is now public,
he's getting an official punishment for this. Ely, I'll sit
here and go Okay. So you upset the Libs, you
upset the Democrat narrative in some way, Clay, or make
things even more difficult for a news cycle for them,
and there are professional consequences. But you lie about Russia
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collusion for four years, you get a pulitzer. That's where
we are, Okay, And I would just point out they
could easily have eliminated all of this uncertainty by releasing
some of the bodycam footage the police officers have bodycams
on them. If they wanted to get the full story
out there, they have the charges that they have brought
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against this guy. At some point they could have just
released the bodycam footage. How often do you see bodycam
footage out there from police in tumultuous, controversial cases all
the time. And your point on Uvalde is a great one.
Everything that we were told initially on the Uval Day
School shooting ended up being a lie. Everything just about
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and so every reporter got it wrong because they were
lied to. It's really really amazing. I mean, this was
a Today Show report that they pulled off of the
NBC website that they took completely down, and now they
are castigating and chastising this reporter because he said something.
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We still don't know one hundred percent what the story
is here because we haven't seen the full footage or
the full details come out. They just he said something
that upset the Democrat Party and as a result, NBC
News the same. We can't have this. Have you heard?
It's just a good question for everybody out there. Have
you heard of any journalist at NBCCBS, ABC, Washington Post,
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New York Times, MSNBCCNN, have any journalist been suspended for
any Russia collusion report at all. You mentioned this, but
I mean just one. I haven't seen it publicly that
anybody has been suspended themselves awards for fake legitimate fake news.
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I mean, and I think this is instructive. I mean,
it's all about the area, the purpose of the narrative.
We all know it. It's very obvious. We have to
keep hammering it though, because you should not ever lull
yourself into thinking or allow yourself to think, well, maybe
the journals are going back towards the center, and you
know they've realized the error of their ways. Are you
kidding me? I mean, President Trump is likely announcing his
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run for the presidency tonight. Right to be president for
four more years. I've been saying this is you know,
Clay and every listening for quite some time. The media
is just waiting for this, and then all the anti
Trump machinery kicks right back into place. CNN's talking about
the insurrection twenty four to seven. I mean, this is
what many of them think they need really for for ratings.
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So it's not like they've actually decided that what they
did in the past was partisan, dishonest and wrong. But
I will say, on the upside of things, you do
have this Elon Musk takeover of Twitter still playing out.
There's a couple of bugs, you know, there's a couple
of little issues here and there, just as the site goes,
because Clay and I are both very active on it,
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and this may mean that we will have a site
that has true free speech and real free speech implications
going into the next election cycle that we really didn't
in this last one. And everyone I know, I'm sure
you've seen the same thing, Clay, all of a sudden,
all these conservatives, you know, your engagements up fifty percent,
your follow accounts going up more than it has. Everything
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that we said about how they were throttling, and it's
all true. They were doing all kinds of shenanigans behind
the scenes of Twitter. The psycho woke libs were playing
every game they could to help their side and make
it all seem like it was on the up and up.
It's a free exchange of idea site. But this is
pretty amazing. Elon tweeted out, this is actually on November thirteenth.
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I'd like to apologize for Twitter being super slow in
many countries. App is doing over a thousand poorly batch
rpcs just to render a home timeline. Now, to be fair,
I have no idea what that means. Yeah, I mean
like I'm not pretending at all about any of this stuff.
I mean I sometimes Kerry has to help me, like
switch from the smart TV to the old TV. You know,
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I'm not great at this stuff. People like you were
in the CIA. I'm like, yeah, we had smart people
who did that stuff in the CIA too. This guy, though,
Eric Fraunoffer, responds to Elon Musk, who is his boss,
apparently a Twitter I have spent six years working on
Twitter for Android and can say this is wrong, gets
one hundred and two thousand likes. And then some guy
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who goes by the moniker money nerd tech, well, I
think probably does know about this stuff. I have been
a developer for twenty years, and I can tell you,
as the domain expert here, you should inform your boss privately.
Trying to one up him in public while he's trying
to learn and be helpful makes you look like a spiteful,
self serving dev For developer, mister Eric Frohnifer writes, maybe
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he should ask questions privately, maybe using slacker email, and
then Elon just tweets in he's fired, and he is.
It turns out, messing with the richest man in the
world who is also your boss and the new CEO
of your company is a bad idea. Wokesters, I love this.
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Let me also just I said this on Fox News
earlier today because we were talking about this story a
little bit. You cannot believe that Elon Musk is going
to have success at Twitter. But there are a lot
of blue checks running around like, oh, Elon Musk doesn't
understand Twitter, he has no hope. This guy is better
at spending at sending rocket ships to space than NASA is,
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and he totally remade the way that we power cars,
both of those things. If you told me right now, Buck,
like twenty years ago, Hey, I think I can send
rockets to space better than NASA, cheaper, more efficiently, and
I can return them, most people would say that's a
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that's a really tall order. And if you also said simultaneously,
and while I'm doing that, I'm going to redesign cars
so that we don't have to rely on gas, and
I'm going to electric power them and all these other things,
a lot of people would say that's really difficult to
do figuring out a social media app and configuring it
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and analyzing it. And compared to that, compared to sending
rocket ships to space better than NASA and designing cars
without the combustion engine, this is not very complicated. So
I'm not sure whether the big business of Twitter is
going to be a success, because I think there's certainly
bet you can place on that. But the idea that
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Elon Musk is not going to be able to understand
the mechanics of Twitter, which this little software engineer, developer,
whoever he was, was sniping at Elon Musk. This is
one of the most brilliant people on the planet, and
he's already succeeded in literal rocket ship making and also
now in the car business by redesigning combustion engine. I
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think he's probably gonna be able to handle Twitter. I'm
just placing my bet down on this guy can figure
it out. I'm just also, you know, I don't do
the hero worship thing, but I do live in reality,
and I think when someone is the richest man on
the planet because they've done the things that you've laid
out there, like maybe show a little respect you know
what I mean, maybe I'll be like, oh, mister idiot,
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Elon doesn't know anything about the back end machinations of
the I can't. I don't even know what you call
this thing the software. Once you start getting the computer side,
I mean, it is a totally might as well be
speaking Mandarin. I have no idea what's going on. I'm
like you in terms of tech. I mean, I run
a media company, and we've got a lot of tech
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obviously involved in that media company. I mean, when I
want to watch Thursday night football on Amazon, I have
to call in my wife or my kids to figure
out how to get on Amazon streaming as opposed to
a traditional cable, Like I hate trying to find sporting
events now on my television because they're streamed so many
different ways. But you know, I still think I'm gonna
tell you this now. I think I'm gonna be able
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to beat my kids one day in video games. I
feel like old school Nintendo got us very primed for this.
I see everything sorely mistaken. I think like FIFA twenty
thirty five is going to come out on PlayStation nineteen
or whatever, and I'm gonna I'm gonna be schooling my kids.
I think that, you know, the gap is not as
big as people I will say. They have gotten me
to play Fortnite against them, They've gotten me to try
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to do the Minecraft building. And I grew up on
the h I grew up on video games. Now, you
may have played video games longer than me, right, because
when I started having kids, like, they got years of
advantage on me. Like they used something called the pinball machine.
That was the that was the state of the art,
you know, when Clay was coming up the rigs. I'm
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really I could beat them in tech Mobowl. You know,
you want to play tech Mobowl, you want to play
RBI Baseball, you want to play uh, you want to
play the old school Nintendo eight bit games. I'll wreck
these kids. But but when it comes to the modern
day Madden, uh, they let dad have it pretty bad. Yeah,
well there you have. So I'm just I'm just saying
that your prediction may may actually be if somebody somebody,
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if somebody gun to your head says greatest for you
at the time, greatest video game that you ever played?
What would it be, Techmo super Bowl, greatest video game
ever created? Um first one with eleven players like it's
the best game ever. What about jib Meyer's Original Civilization
for me, even though that is not a computer game. Yes,
very nerve are best game ever was a computer game.
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It was amazing. Yeah. I used to play as Montezuma
and then just end up knuking everybody. It was phenomenal.
Blades of Steel, Baseball Stars, RBI Baseball, um, the original Techmobowl,
all of those would be in my contra back in
the day. Remember I loved the Contributeo game. I also
on N sixty four, I remember the Golden Eye video
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game multiplayer. Oh, everybody played. That was revolutionary in its time.
And Mario Card. There were some people who would imbube
illegal substances and play the Mario card. You say Mario,
isn't it Mario? You say Mario Mario? Just you might
have just caught me be doing the weird I might
have just pulled the clay there with my pronunciation. Just
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isn't it super Mario Brothers? You would say super Mario Brothers?
Is that the way I think it's I think you're right.
I think it's Mario, like it's Mario and Luigi. Right,
Is it Mario or Mario Lopez, for example, Mario Lopez. Yeah,
so it's it's Mario. I think I don't know now.
You guys called me mister Nevada. You just caught me
right there, you go, Nevada, I got it right, ted
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it up. People have noticed too. Our Nevada listeners are like,
thank you. Clay didn't help though, And although I guess
Lombardo got the win, I would have liked to have
been able to celebrate two wins. Laxalt is officially conceded,
by the way. Unfortunately, Welcome back in, Clay, Travis buck Sexton,
show Buck, you mentioned this in the open. I want
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to make sure I remember to hit it so there.
Yesterday was a front page story in the New York
Times about the dangers of transgender surgeries for miners and
also puberty blockers. And it's a fascinating story that they
finally acknowledged is a real issue. And it's a, you know,
several thousand words story. But what I thought was intriguing was,
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and we made these analogies before, and I wonder whether
there's somebody like who's kind of a mole inside of
the New York Times that thought to do this in
the print edition. Yes, I'm an old man. I read
the print newspaper. When you finished that article about the
transgender the surgeries, and also the puberty blockers. There was
an article about a ten year old who got a tattoo.
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And in that article about a ten year old who
got a tattoo, they quoted several experts as saying, how
in the world could any parent let their ten year
old get a tattoo. Kids who are that young don't
have the ability to make life altering decisions. I'm paraphrasing.
Yet there were many experts in the article about the
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puberty blockers saying, well, if a twelve year old decides
they don't want to go into puberty, we should definitely
do it. And the overriding story year Buck was that
when you get puberty blockers, your bones don't develop like
they normally would, and many of these kids are facing
osteoporosis issues where their bones are brittle because puberty is
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when many kids I didn't know this, but your bones
strengthened to a large degree to support you being able
to handle an adult body, and many of these kids
getting puberty blockers are having issues with their bone strength.
In addition to all the issues that might arise obviously
from changing your gender while you're still under eighteen years old.
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So there's something you know called body integrity identity disorder,
which is when somebody wants to amputate a healthy limb.
This is a real psychological condition. I believe it is
still in the DSM. I think it is still something
that the medical community, psychiatric medical community, will will talk about.
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There was a story place as we discussing this yesterday
in on Vice, which is a very left wing so
called news organizations like a left wing blog. Trans people
are seeking non binary bottom surgeries. Let's talk about that
when we come back. What does that even mean? Everybody.
We'll talk about this in just a moment. While there
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was much discussion before the midterm election about issues like
transcender indoctrination in schools, which they still want to do,
and Drag Queen, not just Drag Queen Story Hour, but
these kind of drag Queen strip shows in front of
small children, you know, the dancing up on the polls
or whatever. All this stuff that goes on. It's weird,
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it's inappropriate. We all know this, well, not everybody, but
everyone listening to this knows that and this was new.
I had never heard of this before. And now I
want to point out this is reported on in Vice,
which is it's essentially like the place for very far
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left wing hipsters with you know, this is like a
very far left wing website. I'll put it you that way.
A lot of a lot of nose rings and blue
hair and you know, Black Lives Matter and announcing pronouns
and get your six vac shots. That's kind of the
Vice vibe. So it's they're reporting on this. Trans people
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are seeking non binary bottom surgeries. Is the story here
across the gender spectrum. I'm quoting everybody. Some patients are
looking for mixed sets of genitals or none at all,
and actually receiving this affirming care isn't easy. Okay, a
couple things here, Clay, before I let you let you
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get into this situation. First of all, you can tell
by the subhead here, the subheadline that the problem here is,
oh my gosh, we're not letting people easily get mixed
genital sets or no genital sets. I want to be clear.
In this article they go into there are now transgender
self identified individuals who want surgery to have both a
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penis and a vaginas simultaneously because that is their gender
identity journey or I'm not even sure which is I
mean this. I think this is probably the more strange
one to have all genitalia removed entirely and have only
you know, a urinary tract effectively in that area. This
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is a thing that is happening, and some doctors are
being told by their patients that this is the surgery
that they want. Would I would wonder within the trans
left wing activist community, on what basis this is their truth?
On what basis will they tell them they can't do this? Yeah,
this is all crazy. And my general belief is if
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you're over eighteen years old and you want to make
crazy choices for yourself, you can do it. I think
it's unlikely to lead to you being happier. I think
many of these people are psychologically broken and they feel
like they need to take gray the action in order
to make themselves happy. And I respect very often after
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all these surgeries, they think, oh, if I just did this,
I would be happy if I just felt and then
they aren't right. But this is next level crazy. This
is just at some point there is a difference between.
I mean the analogy on Halloween, which is, if your
kid dresses up like a cowboys and Indians, then it's
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totally unacceptable. But if an adult decides that they want
to change their gender and they demand that you use
the pronouns of their choice, it's permissible. The line I
think Matt Walsh added in his in his what is
a Woman piece, which I thought was really good, is
you don't get to pick your adjectives, right, so take
away the pronoun thing like I'm gonna share my pronouns
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with you or whatever else, But I don't get to say.
You can only refer to me as handsome, you can
only refer to me as brilliant, you can only refer
to me as a genius. Like you. Everybody out there
can make their own determinations about how you see me,
or you or anyone else. This idea that you can
demand your pronouns is crazy, and I don't know where
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the trans agenda goes, but it feels like many people
increasingly are saying, Hey, you wanted to change your gender
or whatever, but you've You've gone off the crazy train.
So what would be fascinating to me? And remember, we
can call this and I do think this is mental illness.
I'm not a doctor, but I would I would make
the argument as a layperson that that's what's going on here,
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that Clay what we It keeps getting crazier and they
don't stop. I think we need to be very cognizant
of that, meaning that the more you know, it was oh,
just use my pronouns, and now it's oh, I get
to compete against the opposite gender and use their locker
rooms or else you're a bigot and the bid. The administration,
by the way, may go back to giving Title nine
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protection to transgender athletes, which means the whole thing then
is just a free for all for anybody who wants
to compete against the other gender. You have people demanding
that they are put in a woman's prison, even if
they're a man with a penis. They just say, I'm
a woman, so put me in the woman's prison. It
keeps getting crazier. This is the nature of this movement,
of this situation. It never stops. And this is oh.
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And I would say the most recent manifestation we have
seen is the we got to get the kids to
do this. We gotta get twelve year olds to take
the Cubert you know, that's the that's and now a
level beyond that is individuals who are saying, I want
to have no genitalia. I have a right to have
a medical profession. Remember, this is a serious surgery with
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all kinds of calm. I mean, you're not you know
this is this is not growing your hair out and
putting on lipstick. I mean this is something you got
to be put on general anesthesia, you got to have
a surgeon, all this stuff. They want doctors to remove
all genitals. So sort of like you know kenn and
Barbie Doll situation here, that is what they are demanding.
And what's fascinating is that they're getting pushed back from
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within the trans community, according to this article, for making
it seem too crazy. That's what's so interesting. So finally
wokeness has now turned on wokeness and they're trying to
figure out can we make this next step happen. I'm
gonna tell you something. They're gonna keep pushing this. You
know what they tried for a little there are a
couple of articles. One thing they tried for a little
while is you are a bigot. If you're a man
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who is not attracted to a trans female because trans
women or women, you're a biggot. They actually, like Huffington
Post had some articles about this that didn't work. I
think they're gonna try this one next, which is that, hey,
if you want to have both sets, so to speak,
it's fine. It's fine. And by the way, Joe Biden
will have some influencer to the White House and they'll say, oh, God,
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bless you. You know you got the two sets. He's
fine with this. The White House goes along with all
of this. I just don't know where we go from here.
I almost, by the way, Clay almost flabbergasted with this one,
which I've almost never seen. I can barely I just
when you told me about this, Like basically, the way
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to think of it is like if you've ever seen
a Barbie doll or a kin doll. People are just
wiping their entire genitals out. I don't even know. Like
this is clearly psychological, like they are like clearly like
mentally ill. Right. Body identity integrity disorder is something that
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people that are critical of the trans agenda and activism
have been bringing up for years because people realize that
you're asking a surgeon too. I don't like my left arm.
Remove my left arm. That is essentially, you know, boiled
down what we're talking about here, This is that now
basically remove everything down there. This is body integrity identity disorder,
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which the transactivist community was always saying, well, we would,
that's totally different. This is about living your truth. It's
actually not that different. It's just crazy. And I don't
know how we get back to not being crazy, honestly.
It's spend a lot of time thinking about that. On
the one hand, I'm encouraged when people of the left
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start to speak out about reality. On the other hand,
I also remember that they pushed the culture and the
media to the point where now unreality is fashionable and
actually mandatory in so many ways. You see in the
Atlantic they're saying, you know, there's really not clearer evidence
that men are stronger and faster than women. I saw that.
I couldn't believe that. I mean, they folks, they're they're crazy.
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I mean, they are zealots of lunacy. And this is
what is mandatory now on the left. But anyway, Bill
maher over on his show, and I think at some
level this is driven by he's frustrated that he's not
allowed to really be a comedian anymore, at least not
a not really right. I mean, he can make certain
jokes and haha, you know Donald Trump, haha, but you
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can't really push boundaries very much. And on the historical
stuff we're just talking. I was talking about the Guns
of August and the funeral of King Edward the Seventh
in nineteen ten. And I'm sure we could go through
all the assembled monarchs of Europe who were there and
find that a lot of them were insufficiently devoted to
LGBTQ plus rights, a lot of them were insufficiently woken
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when we were another. But that would be a bizarre exercise, really,
Like what's the point of it? Presentism is what Bill
Moore calls, this phenomenon of judging everything in history by
the standards of today. Here's how we teach our kids.
History has become a big controversy these days, with liberals
accusing conservatives of wanting to whitewash the past. And sometimes
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that's true. Sometimes they do, but plenty of liberals also
want to abuse history to control the present, and last month,
a scholar named James Sweet called hell for calling them
out for doing just that. He criticized the phenomenon known
as present ism, which means judging everyone in the past
by the standards of the present. It's the belief that
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people that lived a hundred or five hundred or a
thousand years ago really should have known better. On the
one hand, Clay, we can talk about just the way
that this is. It's absurd and makes no sense because
what are the outer limits of it? But I think
it's really more to the point for everyone to know
this is just about power, and it's actually about controlling
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the present. It is effectively creating narratives meant to destroy
so much of what our society is built on historically
and our understandings of how we got to where we are,
and replace it with something else. If you can destroy
the moral legitimacy of the men who created the Constitution
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and the Declaration of Independence, then you can say that
Constitution doesn't speak for America today, and you can demand
that all of the foundational elements of American democracy are legitimate.
And it's wild to me that Mayor Muriel Bowser, who
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will talk about in a minute in Washington, d C.
She endorsed the idea of renaming I believe Washington, DC,
and the idea of tearing down the Jefferson Memorial as
well as potentially the Washington Monument over the fact that
both of those Virginians owned slaves in their era. And
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maybe we can grab the part of Bill Maher's monologue
which I thought was really good. We have created this
world in America today which is founded through the sixteen
nineteen project, which New York Times has put all their
power behind, as if America was the only place that
ever had slaves and that slavery didn't exist anywhere else
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in the history of the world, when the reality is,
every single person listening to us right now, at some
point in time had ancestors who wore slaves. That is
one hundred percent true. Now I'm not saying that they
were slaves in the United States or in the United
States colonies, but every single person listening to us right now,
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if you go far enough back, has ancestors who wore
slaves at some point in world history. Because slavery was everywhere,
every single society practiced it. I mean, read the Bible.
The Bible, as Bill Maher points out, discusses slavery all
the time, it was commonplace that if your tribe defeated
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another tribe, you killed most of the men or made
them slaves and took the women and children into your
own tribe. That existed everywhere, that existed in Native American culture,
where everybody wants to pretend was like this Bucolic without
flaw country here at land Mass before Europeans arrived. The
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term slave, we believe it comes from Eastern Europe and
Slavs because of the Muslim slave trade, which involved a
lot of white Christian Europeans enslaved over a period of centuries,
which is often not talked about today. The Muslim the
Barbary coursers of North Africa went as far as Ireland
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and actually Iceland, believe it or not, on slave raiding
missions and they took people. They took the women for harems,
and the men. Not to keep them for long periods
of time. It was to have them run or the
ships of galleys where they would die essentially at the
or they'd put them in minds where the conditions were
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so horrific that they would die. And they just kept
a steady stream of people to come in and die.
In North Africa a few million people over a few centuries.
No one talks in even in the sixteen nineteen project,
about the fact that the African slaves were being initially enslaved,
saved by other Africans who were then taking the people
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that they had enslaved and selling them into the Transatlantic
slave trade. But it's as if those people don't exist.
Maybe we'll grab that short period because you're exactly right.
But Bill Maher basically talks about that in his monologue
The Legacy of Slavery. We've descended it to the point
where the United States, according to left wingers, is the
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only place that has ever had slavery, and that that
original sin is such a stain upon this society that
there is no legitimacy in rooted anywhere in our historical past.
It's a lie, but it's a powerful lie, and it's
one that needs to be refuted on the historical record.
And one of the things that has become paramount is
the idea of the United States is a horrible racist
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country and therefore has no legitimacy behind its government. Buck
and I talked about this, I believe to finish off
the Hour to Day about the history of slavery and
the fact that it existed everywhere. Bill Maher did a
good job in his monologue Listen to this. Everybody who
could afford one had a slave, including people of color.
The way people talk about slavery these days, you'd think
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it was a uniquely American thing that we invented in
sixteen nineteen. But slavery throughout history has been the rule,
not the exception. The Sumerians, the Egyptians, the Greeks, Romans,
the Arabs, British, the early Americans. The Holy Bible is
practically an owner's manual for slaveholders. The word slave comes
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from slav because so many Slavic people were enslaved, and
they're as white as the Hallmark Channel. Who do you
think gathered the slaves from the interior of Africa to
sell to slave traders Africans who also kept their own slaves.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. Humans
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are not good people, all right. So that's a pretty
good history of I didn't know about it went into
the etymology of the word slave there, but yes, that
that is. You know, you left out the Aztec Empire,
which was when Cortez arrived build not only upon mass slavery,
but also mass human sacrifice, including the human sacrifice of
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children who were slaves by taking as slaves and then
sacrifice in the most gruesome ways. But you know, indigenous
people were told they're all in harmony with the environment,
and you know, it's everyone thinks that that this is
like that they were living in some Disney cartoon before
we arrived. There are other native tribes, by the way,
in this country who also enslaved other native tribes. The
Vikings had a massive or I shouldn't say massive, wasn't
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that many of them, but had a longstanding practice of
slaves and slavery. This was the constant and human history
throughout all conquests and warfare. But we're only supposed to
talk about it in the context of America, yep. And
here's the context. We hardly even talk about buck. The
vast majority of slavery that took place in the United
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States was pre the United States, so from sixteen nineteen
to seventeen eighty three until we became an independent country.
Arguably England would be on the hook for that one
hundred and sixty years or so. We only had slavery
in the United States for eighty years. I remember when
I was in the museum in Charleston that was originally
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a slave market that they've turned down into museum. There's
a statistic that people, I think very people know three
percent of Southern as I believe, had ninety seven percent
of the slaves. Hardly any Southern soldiers on a per
capita basis in the Civil War actually had slaves. It's
a tiny, tiny percentage.
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