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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to the Tutor Dixon Podcast in the Clay
and Book podcast Network.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. We have a very
special guest with us today. I am excited to welcome
the forty fifth President of the United States of America,
Donald Trump, to the podcast. Mister President, welcome, Well, thank
you very much, Tudor.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
It's great to be with you.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Thank you. I'm so excited. I want to actually take
a little bit of a different approach to this conversation
because there's a special President Trump that I know, and
he is an incredibly caring guy. You were so wonderful
to my dad when he was sick. You took a
lot of time to talk to him. But we've also
had some other folks on that have said great things
about you. Major John Turnbull was on the podcast and
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he told us about leaving Walter Reed after losing his
eyesight in an explosion in Syria. He met you at
the hospital, but then he came home to his house
and you and the first lady had left him a gift.
It wasn't from the White House, it was especially from you.
It was new baby supplies for his baby. He said
he's never going to forget and you have no idea
what that meant to him. I also heard about a
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story years ago of a woman who lost a game show.
She was asked what she would do with the money.
She said, her young son was sick. She would pay
his medical bills. You decided to pick up the medical
bills and then help him through his first year of college.
Why don't we ever get to see this side of
Donald Trump in the public because it is such an
amazing part of who you are.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Well, I don't know. People aren't interested in I can
tell you the media is not interested in those things.
And you know I'll help people. I love to help people.
It's nice to be able to do it. And some
of the soldiers what they've given up. I used to
go to wal to Read a lot when I was president,
to just visit people, visit soldiers, and incredible, I mean
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to see first of all, how good wal to Read
is what they could do. But to see the damage
done to these people and the horrible damage done to them,
and especially when you view you know there, why were
we there? Why did we do this? And you know,
I believe in peace through strength, But you can you
can you don't have to do all of this stuff
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that we do. It ends up not solving problems. But
when you see the destruction that's done and the horrible
harm to the families, to the people that we're talking about,
but to the families and beyond, it's really terrible. So
I would spend a lot of time and you get
to be really, uh, really friendly about it. It's uh,
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you know, it's very interesting. I would never have been
a doctor because I'm not good at handling that stuff.
You understand that, right, And yet I've seen wounds that
are so bad and it's incredible. I have no problem
with it. I normally would have no problem with that.
I have such respect for these people. I just have
no problem with it.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Yeah, he said it was a moment when they said
no cameras allowed. He said, no one knew you were there,
No when you came to the hospital. He said. It
was just so amazing to think that he didn't want
anybody to know. He just came to see me and
it really meant something to him. And I just I've
heard so many stories that are so amazing, and we
see what you go through, we watch this. I've had
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people say to me before, I would never run for
office because who would run for office. I mean, we're
looking at fore indictments, now a mugshot you and your family.
You're very tough. I know you're very tough. I've talked
to you, I've seen you. But I have to ask you.
You have a son that's just a few years older
than my daughter in high school right now. How is
a father? Do you protect him and guide him through this?
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And how do you talk about the weaponization of government
that has scared other people away from running?
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Well, I've seen people where they don't like our government anymore,
and I say, you can't do that. We have to
love our government, but we have to change it. They
become very they become crazed there. And this has been
happening from before my time, but not that much before.
It's gotten it's gotten really big. And it started with
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the Obama administration. And you understand that it just was nasty,
and it's gotten to a point now where it's out
of control. It's the weaponization of government. They sue you,
not two and a half years ago when they could
have They sue you right in the middle of your
election and we're leading Biden and We're leading, everybody leading
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Biden by a lot, and they sue you. Right, if
I wasn't leading, or if I wasn't running, none of
the stuff would happen.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Oh, I mean, we are not surprised. This is the
most corrupt president we've ever had.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Yeah, these people are horrible. I mean, it's like incredible
that this could take place. Actually it's called you know, weaponization,
but it's also you know, there are many there are
many terms where it tries to affect the election. That's
what they're trying to do, affect the election. And I'm
way up on Biden in some of these balls, and
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they want to change it. You know, there's a term
called election interference, and that's exactly what they do. And
they do it for that reason. It's terrible. I think
they also do it as revenge for the Republicans going
after them for the first you know, for the first time.
Let's see what happens, because they have to act. If
they're going to do something, just either do it or
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don't do it. But you got they got to act
because there's so much corruption. This is the most corrupt
president in history and the most incompetent at the same time,
it's pretty incredible.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
I know. I try to explain this to my own kids,
But what's it like as a father, because we see
you as this amazingly strong man, but you're a dad.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Well, it's tough when you have children that you know.
I have a son who's seventeen, just turned seventeen, but
you know, regardless of age, when they see this kind
of stuff happening, and it plays out in the media,
and much of the media doesn't cover it accurately, but
a lot of people, you know, it's very interesting. The
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poll numbers went way up. That means that people understand it.
The phone numbers are the highest probably they've ever been.
And every time I get indicted they go up. But
you know, I get indicted. I never was indicted before.
All of a sudden, they do this stuff. And I
will say this, that's true. I know a lot of
successful people that said, oh boy, they'd like to do
what I did, and now they say, no, it's really
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something they wouldn't want to do. It's a nasty, very
nasty business. You meet very dishonest people like Adam Schiff
and people that you just don't really I don't know.
You meet some pretty bad business people. But these are
really sleeves. These are really bad people, the shifts of
the world and so many others. It's incredible actually, and
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they know the facts, you know, they knew that there
was no Russia, Russia Russia, and yet they talk about it.
They made it up. They knew the story was phony,
but they'll talk about it like, oh, it's this great
constitutional crisis, and yet they know it's phony.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
When you're back in office, will you go after Hillary
Clinton for that fake dossier?
Speaker 1 (07:04):
Well, that's that's the thing. It was a fake Dosier. Yeah, that'speak.
All of that stuff is now part of what's going
on and what's being looked at. Fake Dosier, who is
paid for by the Democrat Party and Hillary all of
this stuff, it was fake. It's just fake. Everything the
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current stuff is fake, all fake.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
And yet we have some really real stuff about Hunter Biden,
pretty terrible. It's incredible when we look at what we're
seeing right now with Ukraine and Hunter Biden, Russia and
Hunter Biden, China and Hunter Biden, and yet they're getting
away with what they're doing. But now we see them
distracting again. So I want to talk to you about
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this because we had a booming economy with you before COVID.
It's COVID stole so much from us. We lost our
loved ones, We suffered major learning loss, our kids really
suffered mental health strain. Costs have gone through the roof.
And now we're hearing that Kentucky is shutting down two
school systems because of COVID again. So people are panicked
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that these shutdowns are going to return. What happens in
a Trump administration when COVID comes back.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Well, we don't do shutdowns for one thing. And it
sounds to me like, you know, if something's coming back.
You know, they blame everything. They say it's COVID because
they love using the word COVID. If you have a
flu season, you know, they call it COVID. We had
that then too, by the way, you had a lot
of flu. You had a lot of this. And you
know they like to say everything COVID. But let's see
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what happens. I mean, there could be something happening. And
you know I always said Biden did a lousy job
with COVID, and he did do a lousy job. We
handed him over a great situation and a lot of
stupid decisions were made, especially with the spending of money
and what they were doing. But we'll have to see
what happens. There is something that seems to be don't
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you think there's something that seems to be happening right
now now and nobody knows quite what it is.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Yeah, I've seen I mean, we have a lot of
people that have been close to us that have been
getting COVID again. I mean, they're not in the point
where they're hospitalized, but I don't know if that may
be happening across the country. But I want to talk
to you about this because Joe Biden just announced that
he's going to be funding a new vaccine. He wants
everyone to get this vaccine. And we're hearing about a
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lot of complaints from vaccine injury. To say a lot,
it's like an understatement. Numerous the pharmaceutical companies have refused
to release their data on vaccine side effects. But we've
seen cases of myocarditis, blood costs, heart attacks, they're all increasing.
The research has never been released. So will you demand
that the vaccine companies, that the pharmaceutical companies release their
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vaccine data to the public so that we can see
what they're actually seeing. About the side effects of this vaccine.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Well, they should do that. You know, we're all in
this together, and they should be doing that. And frankly,
anything new and I hadn't heard what he said yet,
but anything new is going to be looked at very carefully.
But they should be doing that. If they have facts,
I mean, the facts are public, they should be made
public immediately. People should understand that, and they should they
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should know what research is showing and what fact finding is.
You know, this is now after the case. Don't forget
when we started, nobody ever had any idea the word
even the word pandemic. It was one hundred years ago,
nineteen seventeen. That was the last time, and it was
you know, it was a horrible thing. One hundred million
people perhaps died, but you know, nobody thought that could
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happen again. It seemed like an ancient kind of a thing,
you know, the plague. They talked about the plague, but
we had our own plague. It was called COVID, it
was called the chinavirus, and frankly, it was not It
was what it did to the world, what that wuhan
lamb and what came out of there, because it came
out of the Wuhan Lamb. What that did to the
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world was unbelievable. Sixty trillion in damages, so many he
did people millions and millions all over the world. What
happened there was just incredible, horrible.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on
the Tutor Dixon podcast. President Brighten, just a couple of
days ago he said he is going to release a
new vaccine that works. Those are his exact words, that works.
I don't know if that's to indicate that he thinks
the last vaccine didn't work. But the vaccine the pharmaceutical
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companies have been protected by the PREP Act, and that
protects them until I think it's December twenty fourth when
that sunsets. So once that sunsets, and then they can
be held liable for any type of vaccine injuries. Will
you tell the vaxer these companies that they must be
honest about what has happened with this vaccine and do
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you believe that we should be starting a new vaccine
at this point?
Speaker 1 (11:55):
They have to. Let look, they have to be honest
with the numbers of the fact. You know, they have
an obligation to be honest and if they are going
to hold back, that means they're holding back something that's
not good. So it's good for them to be honest
and people are going to understand it too.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
That's exactly what they have to be.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
Honest with THEE and they have to any information, they
have to release it.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
And that is not what we're hearing from this current administration.
And mister President, I'm telling you there are people out
there that are desperate to have you stand for them.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
In that case, well we'll stand for them in many ways.
Look at what's happening to the border, millions and millions
of people. Look at what's happening to our cities. They're
being overrun. But even before they were being overrun, the
crime was overrunning the cities. I mean, there's never been
anything like it. And I look at numbers from Chicago,
from Detroit, from look at New York with all the
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thousands and thousands of people piling into the city that
nobody even knows where they come from. Nobody knows where
they come from. It is not as a society. It
is not sustainable. Even as a society, it is not sustainable,
and it's not even affordable. You get no country could
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afford the cost of what's going on right now. There's
no country ever that could have afforded this.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
You know, sir, In twenty sixteen, you talked to us
in such a unique way because as moms, we really
needed to hear that the economy was going to get
back on track. And as business people, especially in the
state of Michigan, we had to know that manufacturing would
come back. Michigan is really dying. Manufacturing has left. The
automotive industry has destroyed us. They are now talking about
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going on strike. What is your message to workers and
suburban moms in states like Michigan.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Well, I did great with Michigan, and we wanted you know,
I think we did better the second time than we
did the first. But we had great success in Michigan,
and I stopped the cars from moving out, you know,
the car manufacturing from moving to Mexico. Michigan was thirty
two percent before I got there, thirty two percent of
its car production. A lot of it went to Mexico,
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and actually thirty two percent went to Mexico to be sacked.
That's a tremendous thing to think, and now I understand
it's that they're at it again. And now we're the concept,
which is ridiculous, of all electric cars. They're going to
be made in China. They're not going to be made here.
So who's ever representing the United Auto Workers better get
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to work because and they better not support a Democrat
because China is going to be making all of our
cars very soon because of this all electric concept, which
is ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
By the way, I mean the electric concept, it really
it kills jobs regardless even if they don't leave. Even
if you have a manufacturing facility here, it's much less
manufacturing to put together an electric vehicle. And there's no engine.
You have Tier one and Tier two suppliers across the
state of Michigan that will just close. This is ridiculous.
There's no proof that these electric vehicles will actually do
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anything good for the environment, and they're impossible to drive
across the country. How do you battle this when the
federal government currently tells us we have to have a
electric vehicles.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Well, if you had all electric right now, you have
virtually no change in your atmospheric gauge, So you think
of it, if you had all electric. The problem with
the electric they don't go long enough. They don't drive
long enough, and you have to recharge. The recharging kicks forever.
It's so ridiculous what they do. They're trying to hurt people.
They want to take away your water. They want to
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restrict your sinks, they want to restrict your dish washers
and your washing machines.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Your fans, your ceiling fan oh.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Yeah, everything, ceiling fans. Now, you're right. I heard that
the other day. And your heaters, your heaters in the
your house. If you have a great heater that really
works well, you have to change it into a heater
that's environmentally sound, that doesn't give you heat. You know,
the whole thing is crazy. These people are crazy, and
we're going to stop it. We are going to stop it.
We're going to win, and we're going to turn it
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all around, and our country is going to be great again.
We're a laughing stock all over the world. Our country
is going to be great again. And you were really
something you were to a friend of mine, and we
worked hard together, and you really you put your heart
into it and you did a good job and you
respected a very respected person. Tutor.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Well, sir, I thank you, and I just want you
to know that and I'll tell my viewers that you
came to me and you said you got to talk
differently about abortion, and we could not pivot, We could
not pivot in time, and it really you were absolutely right, sir,
and I hope that you are able to navigate that
issue in twenty four and that we can win those
women back because they are already putting out attack ads
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and it is not a fair issue for them to
attack on.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Yep, that's what happened to you, and that's what happened
to a lot of other people and didn't happen to me,
because you know, there is a way of talking about it.
You know, they're the radicals. They're the radicals, and you
have to explain it. And I think exceptions are very
important that I think you need the exceptions. You and
I talked about.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
That absolutely, and I think it's important for people to
know that that's where you are. And I've heard a
lot of folks talking about the idea of changing over
policies to make it more family friendly. I know this
is something that when you were in the administration, Ivanka
worked very hard on federally allowing family leave and things
like that. But what are your views on making it
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easier for adoption, trying to bring together some policies that
help families, especially right now when it's so expensive to
have a child.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Well, we're all for that. I think it's a great thing.
It's one of the many things that we should be doing.
We could be doing many many things having to do
with that issue and having to do with other issues.
We could be doing many many things, Toodor. And we're
going to do them. And you know, they're common sense things.
Actually they're not conservative, but they're not liberal, they're not anything.
They're common sense. Like we have to close up the border,
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like we have to become energy and dependent. There's so
many things, Tudor. And they're going against everything. They open borders,
no energy, poverty, high interest rates. Look at the interest
rates they hit seven and a half percent today. Nobody
can buy a house anymore.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Absolutely so, really quick, sir, before I let Before I
let you go, I will say that I have four children.
It cost me five hundred dollars to get school supplies
this year. The number one concern of moms right now
is the grocery bills, school supplies, and gas. How do
we get that economy back? What is your message about this, Well,
we're going to drill.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
You know the expression drill, baby, drill, and we're going
to drill, and we're going to have so much energy
the prices are going to be tumbling down. That's going
to bring down inflation. Energy is what caused the inflation.
And we'll bring the energy down now. Right now, energy
is going up ver as I've said, I see it's
at five dollars a gallon now in many places.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Again, is that why we had the best economy under
President Trump?
Speaker 1 (18:51):
We had the strongest economy that in the history of
the world has never been an economy like we had
pre COVID. Then we brought it back, you know, we
brought it back from the drag of COVID or the
China virus, depending on what you want to call it.
But we brought it back. But we had the greatest
economy in history. There's never been anything like we had.
Everybody African American, Hispanic American, Asian American, everybody, women, men,
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and what they're doing now is just a shame. They're
destroying this country. They're letting millions and millions and people
come in from prisons, from mental institutions. Nobody has any
idea who they are, where they're from. Last week, one
hundred and twenty nine countries were represented. One hundred and
twenty nine people just pouring into our country. We have
no idea who they are, but we'll change it all
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very quickly, and we'll make it great. We will make
America great again. We're going to do it. I said
it once, and I did it, and now I'll do
it again.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Sir. We appreciate it. I look forward to having a
great economy again. We are so glad that you're still watching.
I think it's important for the people listening to know
that you're citing these facts because you watch every single day.
You really love this kind When I started this interview
saying that there's a side of you that is genuine
and loving. That's the reason you can continue doing this.
And I know you don't love talking about that side
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of you publicly because you think it doesn't matter, but
it totally matters. That's who you are. That's why we
have loved you so much as a president, and we
wish you the best of luck in twenty twenty four.
Thank you so much for being on here with me today.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Well, thank you very much. Tudor, and you're doing a
great job, and the whole country appreciate it. Really. I
mean I've been really appreciate it too, So I want
to thank you very much. And you had a great father.
By the way, I have to say, I got to
know your father. He was a great man. He was
a great gentleman.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
That's the thing. I mean, you keep you remember these things.
That's the thing that people say to me all the time.
They're like, he remembered something about me. And I know
that it's not because somebody prepped you for this. I
know you genuinely remember these things about people. So thank you.
Thank you for saying that.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
I don't have prep. There's no prep. I just know
you had a great father. You take care of yourself.
Douder and thank you. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Have a good day.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Thank you bye.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
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