October 11, 2023 • 30 mins
In this episode, Tudor expresses her support for Israel and condemns the recent terror attack by Hamas. She discusses the war crimes committed and questions the desensitization of those who support Hamas. Tudor is joined by Morgan Ortagus, who shares her emotional experience in the Middle East during the attacks and calls for action. They criticize politicians for not explicitly mentioning "Jewish" and "terrorism" in their statements. They also discuss the lack of response from the White House and criticize the Biden administration's foreign policy failures. The Tudor Dixon Podcast is part of the Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Podcast Network - new episodes debut every Monday, Wednesday, & Friday. For more information visit TudorDixonPodcast.com
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, this is Buck Sexton and you're listening to the
Tutor Dixon Podcast, part of the Clay Travers and Buck
Sexton podcast Network. Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. First
and foremost, we are praying for our brothers and sisters
in Israel. As you know, Hamas carried out the worst
terror attack on Israel in its history. These monsters kidnapped children,
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women and elderly, then posted pictures in videos of them
on social media. They are now threatening to broadcast the
brutal murders of innocent children. Israel is at war, and
yet there are no rules in a war with terrorists.
These are war crimes, and they are crimes against one
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of our greatest allies. I want to be clear, any
American siding with Hamas in this conflict is a traitor
to our country, to our way of life, and to
our freedom. Sit safely in our homes, unaware of how
many terrorists have slipped into our own country under this
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irresponsible administration. An open border puts US in as much
danger as Israel. These monsters are out there chanting gas
the Jews and death to America. There can be no
mercy for terrorists Americans who are confused about this put
all of us in danger. Elected officials who waiver should
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be voted out of office to discuss this in more detail.
I am pleased to welcome and have with me today
the former spokesperson for the US Department of State and
founder of Polaris National Security, also an intelligence officer in
the US Navy Reserves, Morgan Ortegas. Thank you, thank you
so much for talking to us about this in such
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a sad day here in the United States and in
the world.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Yeah, Tudor, thank you so much for having me on
and for highlighting this. It has been an incredibly emotional
a few days. I was actually supposed to be in
Israel right now. I landed in Katar, and I was
in the Middle East. I landed Saturday morning, didn't sleep
on the fly, got to my hotel and thought, okay,
I'm going to crash for a few hours and get
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some rest. And I looked down at my phone and
I thought, what am I seeing here? You know, you're
so used to Unfortunately, it's kind of easy to get desensitizer,
so used to Hammas, you know, doing some sort of
terror attack against Israel, but nothing of this scale. And
as it started to unfold and we saw how bad
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these attacks are. You know, every day it gets worse.
I think, first of all, you made such a great
point about you know, people who would try and side
with Hamas. Listen, there was no justification, there's no excusing this,
there's no well, let's talk about both sides of the issue.
None of that. There was a massive terrorist attack where
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the most Jews were killed since the Holocaust, and that
one's and that and those attacks on Saturday, that should
spur all of us to action. That should trouble all
of us to know that we have constantly said never again,
and unfortunately, never again happened over the weekend. Some of
the reports Tutor that I'm seeing this morning, and I think,
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you know, you're a mother, I'm a mother. I don't
want to I want to look away. I don't want
to talk about this, but we must. And I twenty four,
which is Israeli cable news channel, had firsthand reporting from
some idea of soldiers who went into to Rid kibbutz
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that Hamas militants had taken over the kibbutz and so
whenever they were finally to you know, to gain it back,
to take it away from the from the terrorists. They
found bodies of forty dead babies, not adults, not teenagers,
tutor baby. And I'm also sad to report that some
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of those babies were decapitated. That's who we're dealing with.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
I mean, how can when you say these things, when
we hear these stories, Like I said, this is not war.
These are war crimes. This is not a situation where
you have two countries battling over having a regular war
over land or a dispute. This is disgusting. They are
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going in that the paratroopers that came in and started
just massacring people who were at a music festival. I
know we've all heard the stories from that. We've heard
the stories of the young woman who ran for two
hours and then hid for six hours while they were
watching and listening to their friends be shot and murdered
in front of them, The children that have been taken,
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And I think that we need to point out that
this is different than anything we have ever seen before
because we are seeing it so up close and personal,
and are we this sensitized that there are people who
are okay with these rallies for Palestine, these rallies that
are praising Hamas in the United States, And do you
not fear the fact that these same people who are
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chanting death to America are sitting in your cities right now.
They are holding rallies right now in support of people
who are willing to decapitate babies. Let's just put that
out there. As gruesome and as horrifying as it is,
you need to know exactly who you're out there cheering for.
If this is what you're.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Doing, that's absolutely right. I don't know how you could
cheer for terrorism, you know, and that's what you're doing.
You're cheering for terrorists. You know. We have freedom of
speech in this country, so you're allowed to have these rallies,
but we should also be able to expose it, to
shine the light on it, as you were doing. And
let me first of all say that I felt an
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enormous support, enormous outpouring from the American people. People are horrified,
and I just want to thank you, know you and
your listeners for standing with the Jewish people in solidarity.
You know, last night, before I went to bed, which
I haven't really been sleeping, but last night, before I
went to bed, I thought to myself, I didn't think
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it would be possible to feel the way I did
after nine to eleven. For me, nine to eleven happened
when I was in college. It totally changed the trajectory
the course of my life. I obviously ended up going
into national security and intelligence and foreign policy positions over
the last twenty years since then, And I didn't think
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it would be possible to feel that way again. And
that's really, you know, for me and so many of
your Jewish friends and people who are listening, you know,
to know, you know, you know, theoretically that people want
to kill you or want to kill your family because
you're Jewish, right like we know that because we saw
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the Holocaust, and but to know that that type of
hate still exists today. You know, I said this yesterday
on air. You know, I'm lucky, so lucky to live
in the United States because if my almost three year
old daughter was in Israel today or other places in
the world, you know, terrorists would want to kill her,
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my little girl, simply because she is Jewish. That's hard
for me to stomach. And I I read this last night.
I forget who tweeted it because I've been reading so
much news. But Tudor, you know, a Jewish woman said,
I spent my whole life wondering how the world could
have watched the Holocaust happen, and they just stood by.
And I no longer wonder that. And I, while I
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didn't say that originally, someone else did. That's exactly how
I feel today. When you see these rallies that you're
talking about, you when you see people excusing and sort
of all sides ng you know, acts blatant acts of
some of the worst terrorism. I mean, this is this
is stuff that makes Isis look like it cake walk, right.
I mean they look they make Isis look humane. And
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when you see that and when you are able to
excuse it just because you simply hate somebody for their
religion or their ethnicity, it makes sense how the Holocaust
happen to be.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Frank, I think there's also a naivete in the United States.
We do feel safe. We are ignorant to the fact
that this kind of stuff goes on around the world
and the dangers of people who are they've become you know, indoctrinated,
or they've become you know, they're embedded in these terrorist cells.
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I think we are ignorant to the fact that this exists.
But when you have elected officials who are ignorant to
the fact that this exists. And I think some of
our elected officials that have come out on the side
of Hamas are obviously that they've made it clear where
they stand and they are dangerous and they should be
voted out. Others who have wavered like Gretchen Whitmer who
came out and said that she has talked to people
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who are in affected communities. We don't know what communities
those are, and that she hopes that peace can come
to the region. Just the amount of ignorance that that
statement put out to me, it totally disqualifies her to
even be in office, That she has no idea that
she is even giving way a little bit to terrorism.
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And I think that people really are confused by the
fact that this is truly a terrorist organization that is
willing to do anything. And I do think that people
have forgotten about the Holocaust. We've been talking about this
for years. The fact that schools do not even want
to educate young people on what happened, on how horrible
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the crimes were during World War Two. And remember a
few years ago we went and interviewed some survivors in Florida,
and you know, these folks had survived through these concentration camps,
the most horrific things you can imagine. And as I
walked out, this woman who was sitting in her chair
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in her apartment in Florida, who was an elderly woman,
grabbed my arm as I walked out the door. And
I'll never forget her doing this, because she looked at
me with so much anger in her eyes and she said,
they'll do it again because they hate the Jews. And
even then, having grown up in this country, I thought, oh,
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it'll never happen again. Here we are. You know.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
The thing about the governor from your state, I happened
to be you know, I'm reading so much news and
I happened to scroll past right after she posted that
statement before it kind of blew up and she had
got criticism, and I thought, wow, there's two big words
missing from your statement, governor, Jews and terrorism. She couldn't
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call it terrorism, like, what's an affected community? Say what
we are, Governor, we're Jews. You can say the word
like that is the effect of.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Ca Well, she was including two different communities in that,
just to.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Be Yeah, we know exactly what she was doing. Yeah,
totally I agree. But you know what, these are the
moments when politicians show us who they really are, and
it is the it is this statements. Like you know, listen,
I was a spokesperson for Secretary of Mike Pompeo. I
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get how much you know politicians or a principal's staff
will go through and edit what you're going to say, right,
like everybody goes back and forth. But the statement should
what the statement should be. So you think that not
only was her, that was her top team that thought
it was okay not to say the word Jewish and
not to say the word terrorism. You know, I don't
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know who they were trying to appeal to politically, but
at a moment whenever the American people in the world
need clarion calls of truth and need crystal clear truth,
she chose to be a vague And the Jewish people
will remember in these moments who stood by them and
who did we will remember.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on
a Tutor Dixon podcast. And it's not just the Israeli community.
We have eleven Americans over there who have been absolutely
We don't know if there are other Americans amongst these hostages.
We just don't know. This is an attack against America
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as well.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Absolutely, yes, thank you for bringing that up to my knowledge. Lestie.
It's Tuesday, Is it tuesday? Yes, it's Tuesday. Yes, I
have been traveling from the Middle East, so apologies to
your listeners. We haven't heard from the Vice president since
Friday night. Yesterday it was confirmed that first nine Americans
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and then it went up to eleven Americans. The White
House called a lid. What that means and not people
who are not impressed. That means that we weren't going
to see the president for the rest of the day.
So we found out. You know, we should we should look.
Eleven Americans killed in a terrorist attack, you know that
is I'm trying to think we had the Boston bombing.
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I don't. I'm just gonna have to look to compare
stats and numbers. That's that's an enormous amount of people
to lose in a terrorist attack. And we didn't see
from the We didn't see the president. Now he's reportedly
coming out today, but these are moments when you have
Americans killed by terrorists. We don't know yet if there
are Americans, we think that there could be Americans held
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hostage by Hamas, but we don't know yet. So it's
possible to have American hostages. We know we have at
least eleven that the State Department has come firm killed.
And don't forget Tutor, we have probably two hundred thousand
Americans that live in Israel or are visiting Israel right now.
I know of church groups that are there that can't
get out, people that are there on you know, we're
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there on holiday visiting. So what about all of those
Americans that could be trapped there. We have a pretty
poor record in this administration on leaving Americans behind. Last
I checked, there's still Americans left behind in Afghanistan. So
after the disastrous withdrawal from Afghanistan, when we had thirteen
dead Americans, and as I said, americans that are still
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left behind, I would think that this administration would say,
you know, this is a moment whenever the American people
need to really hear from our president. But he went
underground yesterday.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
What is the hesitation? I mean, what is the fear
of him coming out? Really? I think that the American
people are wondering why are you not here? I mean,
he didn't really, He's never talked to the families of
the thirteen that were lost in Afghanistan. He has now
not come out and discussed this. And to me, we go, man,
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he's fearful, and I don't want the President of the
United States to be fearful. And I don't think the
rest of America feels comfortable knowing that he's fearful and
hiding behind the walls of the White House.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
You know, I don't know exactly why he can't rise
to the moment. I don't know if it's a product
of just his age and his and his mental capacity
and his ability to do so. He's given some pretty
divisive speeches. I don't really know why he can't rise
to the moment. He's certainly a shell of the politician
that he used to be. I feel like the Biden
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of twenty years ago wouldn't be, you know, hiding in
the White House after eleven Americans were killed. So I
don't I don't know why I do. I do have
a sneaking suspicion that there's a little bit of a
guilty conscience in this administration. And what do I mean
by that they know that there are Ron policy has
been an abject failure, and they have had a couple,
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you know, several really big foreign policy failures they've had.
They've had two big foreign policy failures. Now they've had
a third. So what was the first one? Obviously the
disasters to withdraw from kabble, in which you know, the
Taliban took over in a number of days and weeks.
We were caught by surprise. We all remember, you know,
just how shocked we were to see that the president
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just clearly was not in control of the situation and
what happened. That was a huge blow to Biden. I
don't think he's ever recovered from that, and it was
and it's something that was just enormously shameful, enormously shameful
that we left in the way we did. And then
you look at the administration's failure to deter Putin from
invading Ukraine. You know, we have the worst war on
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European soil since World War Two, and that was another
massive deterrence failure by the administration. You know, their Biden's goal,
their stated policy goal, was to deter Putin from invading Ukraine,
and they failed at that. So you have the failure
of Afghanistan, the failure to deter Putin from invading Ukraine.
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And now listen, I am by no means saying or
implying that these terrorists, uh, you know, attacked Israel because
of Biden. That's that's that's silly. I'm not saying that.
But when you look at these administration's failure towards Iran,
how does that impact what happened on Saturday. Well, first
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of all, they chose to appease Iran for the past
three years, So what does that mean. That means that
they're not enforcing the legal sanctions that are on the books.
So there's US sanctions on Iran right now that the
Biden administration refuses to enforce. Ergo, they are able to
sell their oil again and they're getting billions of dollars
of revenue lining their pockets. And what do they do
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with that money? We know that multiple Republican and democratic
administrations have certified that Iran is the world's leading state
sponsor of terrorism. So they take that money that they
have gleaned from US not enforcing the sanctions and they
give it to Hamas, they fund himas they train jimas
they equip himas they provide them with all the military weaponry.
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So the attacks that we saw on Saturday could not
have happened without the Islamic Republic of Iran. Hamas is
one of their many proxies. This is, by the way,
this is the policy they pursue out the Middle East.
So the Biden team has chased around Iran for the
past three years in this appeasement policy, not enforcing sanctions,
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begging them to get back into the JCPOA which is
the Iran Deal, begging and cajoling them they didn't get
back in, and not being firm with them. So under
the Trump administration, under Secretary Mike Pompeo, we had a
very clear policy with Iran. We said, you touched the
hair of any American, if any of your proxies do this,
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then we hold you responsible. Because what was happening at
the time Tudor is Shea and milicias in Iraq had
tried to attack our embassy, They had tried to overrun
our embassy. They were trying to kill American service members
in Iraq. And so we told the Iranians, if the
she and militias that you fund, train and equip in
Iraq similar to what they do for to Jmas for Jimas.
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If these she and militias touched the head, touch the
hair of an American, we are holding you responsible. And
so we set a clear line. And because this administration
hasn't done that, Iran's terrorist proxies throughout the region feel
emboldened to behave in the manner that they did and
do this. So I think that listen, you you know
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they're running for cover. They just gave six billion dollars
of what less than two weeks ago and a ransom
payment that they paid Aron and they immediately came out
tutor and said, oh, well, the six billion dollars is
sitting in a bank account and Cuttar, it hasn't gone
to them yet. Okay. Number one, somebody should google the
word fungible in the administration and understand that money is fungible.
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Number two, you've already given them sanctions relief essentially by
not enforcing it. Number three, maybe, just maybe this was
not a good time to give them six billion dollars.
And you know what, if that money is sitting and
a bank account and Cutter still, then take the freaking
money back.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Well, and I don't think that this was a surprise
that they just suddenly called Iran and said, hey, guess what,
We're going to actually give this money to you. I'm
sure this has been a negotiation that they're going on
since the Biden administration took over, and they have known
for quite a long time that they were going to
negotiate this money back to them. And I mean, this
attack it has taken months, if not years to plan.
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And Iran is the one who says go or no go.
So we know that this came from them feeling comfortable
that they were ready to launch this attack, and that
has to be It has to be taken into account
that this money was there. Now, We've talked a lot
about the Democrats, but I want to talk a little
bit about the Republicans because obviously we have a bunch
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of candidates that are running for president right now. This
is a big deal. Who is ready for the foreign policy,
for what's going on in Ukraine, for what's going on
with China, for what's going on with Israel. Who is
actually ready to handle this? And we saw Nikki Haley
come out and she said, and hamas Vi viik Ramaswami
is he's criticizing her for this response. He's saying, she
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sounds ridiculous saying this, but she was yelling and that
this was silly. I mean, do you want a candidate
who is going to say, hey, let's let's just stay
calm and really think about this, or do you want
someone who knows exactly where they stand on foreign policy
and who they stand with.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
Yeah, Vivegue needs to have a seat. He is you know,
it's borderline offensive. Uh you know what he is saying,
You know, Nikki Haley and listen. I have not endorsed
Nicki Haley, but just looking at the two of them
in this in this fight, and there's listen, There's some
things that Vivek does that I think are great, right, Like,
he goes into media that no other Republican will go into.
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I was just listening to him on the is it
the uh not the shade Room? I forget, I forget
the name of it. But I listened to a you know,
definitely left of center podcast where he went in and
took bullets and answered all their questions. So I appreciate
that he does this, but in this particular instance, this
is not the moment to play politics and try to
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get one up on one of your primary competitors, especially
whenever she her words about ending Hamas resonated so much
with the Jewish people and the victims of terror attacks.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
So yes, she.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Said in Hamas, which is what we said after nine
to eleven after al Qaeda attacked us, and we wanted
to and we wanted to end al Qaeda and end
the terrorist threat from al Qaeda. So yes, that's how
the victims of terrorism feel in the moment. And I
just think this was a cheap political stunt by somebody
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who probably just really doesn't understand the situation. And I'd
be happy to brief him and talk to him and
explain it, but he needs to understand that there is
a difference between disagreeing on policy, which is fine, and
the emotions of the moment that so many people felt
after a terrorist attack. And that's the same emotions that
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we as Americans felt after nine to eleven and how
we wanted to end al Qaeda and end the terrorist
threat from coming to the United States from Afghanistan. Ever again,
so it is perfectly perfectly reasonable that Israel should want
to end the Hamas terrorist threat that is emanating from Gaza,
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the same way that we wanted to end the al
Qaeda terrist threat that was emanating from Afghanistan. It's the
same thing.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
So let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next
on the Tutor Dixon Podcast. Do you think that this
is a moment for Nikki Haley that other candidates won't have.
I think we're coming off of a pandemic where people
started to go, Wow, this world health organization that we trusted,
that we believed in. We're starting to see that you
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can kind of be bought and paid for in that organization,
and that organization can lean politically rather than for truly
the health of the people. And now people are looking
at the United Nations and going, what do we not
know about the United Nations? And as to the ambassador
to the United Nations, she's coming out and saying, hey, look,
they're saying they want a ceasefire. This is why I
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can tell you this group needs to be reformed in
some way. This is not a good group that has
come together. They're not fighting for the best things in
the world right now. Is she in a unique position
where the other candidates can't speak to this in the
way she can well, I think.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Listen, she certainly, as you an ambassador, can talk about this,
as you said firsthand experience, there can be a ceasefire
after the Hamas threat is eliminated. Sure, then we can
talk about a ceasefire. But I think we're a long
way from that. You know that I worked for President Trump,
and one of the things that has been so hard
about the past three years is whenever, you know, we
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were talking about kabble in Afghanistan and that disaster withdraw
it was so hard in that moment. It's been so
hard to watch the Russian you know, war in Ukraine
because these are things that you know wouldn't have happened
and didn't happen under President Trump and under his leadership.
And you know, when I look at at the end
of the Trump administration and those final months leading up
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to the election, what did we do. Well, We signed
the inc on the Abraham Accords, the first peace deals
between Israel and Arab States in twenty six years. So
Trump handed Biden peace in the Middle East, right, he
handed him historic peace deals.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
And what did you see?
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Within three months Hamas had started attacking Israel. And now
you see three years into Biden's presidency. You see the
worst attack on the Jewish people since the Holocaust that
never ever would have happened under President Trump.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
And so well, that's he's come out. He's come out,
and he said that he's been very bold about saying, Look,
Ukraine didn't wouldn't have happened under my administration, and this
attack from Hamas would not have happened under my administration.
And I think a lot of people, obviously folks on
the on the right side of the aisle, are going, yeah,
we want that back. Look, we didn't have war, we
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didn't have any of our service members dying, we didn't
have this disastrous pull out from from Afghanistan, We did
not have all of these embarrassing catastrophes under the Trump administration.
Is it possible that a Trump administration comes back in
and these things really do start to get cleaned up.
I mean, he has said he has the ability to
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go in and negotiate and stop some of this, and
I think you've made it clear that this happens not
only through negotiation, but sanction and being tough. And the
Biden administration has been very weak, very wobbly on the
world stage. What does it look like if a Trump
administration goes back in there, how does this get cleaned
up quickly?
Speaker 2 (26:47):
You know? The analysis paralysis is what you really see
coming out of this National Security Council and out of
this White House. And if you look tutor at all
the articles when you read about you know, why why
does did Biden slow walk the aid to Ukraine? For example?
You know, I'm one of the people that are old
enough to remember when Trump, President Trump gave military and
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lethal aid to the Ukrainians and then Joe Biden and
his team stopped that aid and they said, well, we
will only give lethal aid to the Ukrainians if Putin invades.
And so when you look at every article, they always
say things like, well we would do X, but we
don't want to provoke Putin, right, And it's the same thing.
You can go through any theater. Well, why do we
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have the current appeasement policy towards China where every major
US official cabinet goes to China, goes to Beijing uninvited
to kiss the ring to the of the emperor. You know,
So we're doing this in every theater, right, not just
you know, not just with Russia, not just in the
Middle East, and so they're always worried about, well, if
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we do X, then putin or Shijingping or Hamas or whomever,
or Ron, they will overreact if we do this. You
know that just a fundamentally different worldview than what we
had under Mike Pompeo, under President Trump. Listen, when Nikki
Hayley was at the UN when Pence was the vice president,
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we all took our leadership. Of course, we were able
to be tough because we had a president that was tough,
and we said, you know what, we're going to do
the right thing and we'll see what the consequences are
when we moved the US. When President Trump moved the
US Embassy to Jerusalem, he said, wait a minute. The
law of the land states that the US Embassy must
be in Jerusalem, and Congress has to sign a waiver.
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I think it was every six months, at least once
a year, Congress had to pass a waiver to keep
the US Embassy in Tel Aviv, as opposed to putting
it in Jerusalem, where the law of the Land said
it was supposed to be. Trump said, that makes no
sense to me. Everybody said you would start World War
three by putting the US embassy in Jerusalem. Spoiler alert
to your audience, tutor, we didn't start World War three.
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They said the same thing whenever we stood for Israel
and their and sovereignty over the Goal on Heights, when
we stood by them, you know, over their settlements, all
of these issues and all these things. We said, we
are going to stand firm and strong with our allies
and friends. We're going to defend our allies and friends,
and we're going to punish our enemies. And when we
took out Kasum Sulimani, who was head of the Iranian
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Coulds Force i RGC, Coulds Force, who's head of IERGC,
one of the world's leading terrorists, probably the world's leading
terrorist at the time, they definitely said we were going
to start World War three. Then right, we did not
because people knew, Wait a minute, this is a president,
this is a secretary of state, this is an administration
that actually means what they say. They're actually going to
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follow through when they have a threat. And that's where
we need to get back to in our presence on
the world stage. In my opinion, you may not like it,
you may not agree with it, but you know where
we stand.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
Well. I think that, like I said when we started
this podcast, if you don't agree with taking care of
our allies, then maybe are in the wrong country. This
is not the place for you. We have allies, we
take care of them, and we certainly do not support terrorists. Sadly,
Iran as the number one sponsor of terror in the world,
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and we need to be aware of that. We need
to be aware of what they're willing to do to
their own people, let alone people outside of their country,
and it is a concern for the entire United States
of America. Morgan or Tegis, thank you so much for
taking time to talk to us about this today. As
I said, we are praying for the people of Israel.
We will continue and we'll continue to follow this and
love to have you back as we get more in
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detail as to what's happening over there in the Middle East.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Happy too, Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Tutor, Yes, thank you, and thank you all for joining
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Hey, this is Buck Sexton and you're listening to the
Tutor Dixon Podcast, part of the Clay Travers and Buck
Sexton podcast Network. Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. First
and foremost, we are praying for our brothers and sisters
in Israel. As you know, Hamas carried out the worst
terror attack on Israel in its history. These monsters kidnapped children,
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women and elderly, then posted pictures in videos of them
on social media. They are now threatening to broadcast the
brutal murders of innocent children. Israel is at war, and
yet there are no rules in a war with terrorists.
These are war crimes, and they are crimes against one
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of our greatest allies. I want to be clear, any
American siding with Hamas in this conflict is a traitor
to our country, to our way of life, and to
our freedom. Sit safely in our homes, unaware of how
many terrorists have slipped into our own country under this
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irresponsible administration. An open border puts US in as much
danger as Israel. These monsters are out there chanting gas
the Jews and death to America. There can be no
mercy for terrorists Americans who are confused about this put
all of us in danger. Elected officials who waiver should
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be voted out of office to discuss this in more detail.
I am pleased to welcome and have with me today
the former spokesperson for the US Department of State and
founder of Polaris National Security, also an intelligence officer in
the US Navy Reserves, Morgan Ortegas. Thank you, thank you
so much for talking to us about this in such
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a sad day here in the United States and in
the world.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Yeah, Tudor, thank you so much for having me on
and for highlighting this. It has been an incredibly emotional
a few days. I was actually supposed to be in
Israel right now. I landed in Katar, and I was
in the Middle East. I landed Saturday morning, didn't sleep
on the fly, got to my hotel and thought, okay,
I'm going to crash for a few hours and get
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some rest. And I looked down at my phone and
I thought, what am I seeing here? You know, you're
so used to Unfortunately, it's kind of easy to get desensitizer,
so used to Hammas, you know, doing some sort of
terror attack against Israel, but nothing of this scale. And
as it started to unfold and we saw how bad
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these attacks are. You know, every day it gets worse.
I think, first of all, you made such a great
point about you know, people who would try and side
with Hamas. Listen, there was no justification, there's no excusing this,
there's no well, let's talk about both sides of the issue.
None of that. There was a massive terrorist attack where
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the most Jews were killed since the Holocaust, and that
one's and that and those attacks on Saturday, that should
spur all of us to action. That should trouble all
of us to know that we have constantly said never again,
and unfortunately, never again happened over the weekend. Some of
the reports Tutor that I'm seeing this morning, and I think,
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you know, you're a mother, I'm a mother. I don't
want to I want to look away. I don't want
to talk about this, but we must. And I twenty four,
which is Israeli cable news channel, had firsthand reporting from
some idea of soldiers who went into to Rid kibbutz
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that Hamas militants had taken over the kibbutz and so
whenever they were finally to you know, to gain it back,
to take it away from the from the terrorists. They
found bodies of forty dead babies, not adults, not teenagers,
tutor baby. And I'm also sad to report that some
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of those babies were decapitated. That's who we're dealing with.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
I mean, how can when you say these things, when
we hear these stories, Like I said, this is not war.
These are war crimes. This is not a situation where
you have two countries battling over having a regular war
over land or a dispute. This is disgusting. They are
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going in that the paratroopers that came in and started
just massacring people who were at a music festival. I
know we've all heard the stories from that. We've heard
the stories of the young woman who ran for two
hours and then hid for six hours while they were
watching and listening to their friends be shot and murdered
in front of them, The children that have been taken,
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And I think that we need to point out that
this is different than anything we have ever seen before
because we are seeing it so up close and personal,
and are we this sensitized that there are people who
are okay with these rallies for Palestine, these rallies that
are praising Hamas in the United States, And do you
not fear the fact that these same people who are
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chanting death to America are sitting in your cities right now.
They are holding rallies right now in support of people
who are willing to decapitate babies. Let's just put that
out there. As gruesome and as horrifying as it is,
you need to know exactly who you're out there cheering for.
If this is what you're.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Doing, that's absolutely right. I don't know how you could
cheer for terrorism, you know, and that's what you're doing.
You're cheering for terrorists. You know. We have freedom of
speech in this country, so you're allowed to have these rallies,
but we should also be able to expose it, to
shine the light on it, as you were doing. And
let me first of all say that I felt an
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enormous support, enormous outpouring from the American people. People are horrified,
and I just want to thank you, know you and
your listeners for standing with the Jewish people in solidarity.
You know, last night, before I went to bed, which
I haven't really been sleeping, but last night, before I
went to bed, I thought to myself, I didn't think
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it would be possible to feel the way I did
after nine to eleven. For me, nine to eleven happened
when I was in college. It totally changed the trajectory
the course of my life. I obviously ended up going
into national security and intelligence and foreign policy positions over
the last twenty years since then, And I didn't think
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it would be possible to feel that way again. And
that's really, you know, for me and so many of
your Jewish friends and people who are listening, you know,
to know, you know, you know, theoretically that people want
to kill you or want to kill your family because
you're Jewish, right like we know that because we saw
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the Holocaust, and but to know that that type of
hate still exists today. You know, I said this yesterday
on air. You know, I'm lucky, so lucky to live
in the United States because if my almost three year
old daughter was in Israel today or other places in
the world, you know, terrorists would want to kill her,
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my little girl, simply because she is Jewish. That's hard
for me to stomach. And I I read this last night.
I forget who tweeted it because I've been reading so
much news. But Tudor, you know, a Jewish woman said,
I spent my whole life wondering how the world could
have watched the Holocaust happen, and they just stood by.
And I no longer wonder that. And I, while I
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didn't say that originally, someone else did. That's exactly how
I feel today. When you see these rallies that you're
talking about, you when you see people excusing and sort
of all sides ng you know, acts blatant acts of
some of the worst terrorism. I mean, this is this
is stuff that makes Isis look like it cake walk, right.
I mean they look they make Isis look humane. And
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when you see that and when you are able to
excuse it just because you simply hate somebody for their
religion or their ethnicity, it makes sense how the Holocaust
happen to be.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Frank, I think there's also a naivete in the United States.
We do feel safe. We are ignorant to the fact
that this kind of stuff goes on around the world
and the dangers of people who are they've become you know, indoctrinated,
or they've become you know, they're embedded in these terrorist cells.
(08:34):
I think we are ignorant to the fact that this exists.
But when you have elected officials who are ignorant to
the fact that this exists. And I think some of
our elected officials that have come out on the side
of Hamas are obviously that they've made it clear where
they stand and they are dangerous and they should be
voted out. Others who have wavered like Gretchen Whitmer who
came out and said that she has talked to people
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who are in affected communities. We don't know what communities
those are, and that she hopes that peace can come
to the region. Just the amount of ignorance that that
statement put out to me, it totally disqualifies her to
even be in office, That she has no idea that
she is even giving way a little bit to terrorism.
(09:19):
And I think that people really are confused by the
fact that this is truly a terrorist organization that is
willing to do anything. And I do think that people
have forgotten about the Holocaust. We've been talking about this
for years. The fact that schools do not even want
to educate young people on what happened, on how horrible
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the crimes were during World War Two. And remember a
few years ago we went and interviewed some survivors in Florida,
and you know, these folks had survived through these concentration camps,
the most horrific things you can imagine. And as I
walked out, this woman who was sitting in her chair
(10:00):
in her apartment in Florida, who was an elderly woman,
grabbed my arm as I walked out the door. And
I'll never forget her doing this, because she looked at
me with so much anger in her eyes and she said,
they'll do it again because they hate the Jews. And
even then, having grown up in this country, I thought, oh,
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it'll never happen again. Here we are. You know.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
The thing about the governor from your state, I happened
to be you know, I'm reading so much news and
I happened to scroll past right after she posted that
statement before it kind of blew up and she had
got criticism, and I thought, wow, there's two big words
missing from your statement, governor, Jews and terrorism. She couldn't
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call it terrorism, like, what's an affected community? Say what
we are, Governor, we're Jews. You can say the word
like that is the effect of.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Ca Well, she was including two different communities in that,
just to.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Be Yeah, we know exactly what she was doing. Yeah,
totally I agree. But you know what, these are the
moments when politicians show us who they really are, and
it is the it is this statements. Like you know, listen,
I was a spokesperson for Secretary of Mike Pompeo. I
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get how much you know politicians or a principal's staff
will go through and edit what you're going to say, right,
like everybody goes back and forth. But the statement should
what the statement should be. So you think that not
only was her, that was her top team that thought
it was okay not to say the word Jewish and
not to say the word terrorism. You know, I don't
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know who they were trying to appeal to politically, but
at a moment whenever the American people in the world
need clarion calls of truth and need crystal clear truth,
she chose to be a vague And the Jewish people
will remember in these moments who stood by them and
who did we will remember.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on
a Tutor Dixon podcast. And it's not just the Israeli community.
We have eleven Americans over there who have been absolutely
We don't know if there are other Americans amongst these hostages.
We just don't know. This is an attack against America
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as well.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Absolutely, yes, thank you for bringing that up to my knowledge. Lestie.
It's Tuesday, Is it tuesday? Yes, it's Tuesday. Yes, I
have been traveling from the Middle East, so apologies to
your listeners. We haven't heard from the Vice president since
Friday night. Yesterday it was confirmed that first nine Americans
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and then it went up to eleven Americans. The White
House called a lid. What that means and not people
who are not impressed. That means that we weren't going
to see the president for the rest of the day.
So we found out. You know, we should we should look.
Eleven Americans killed in a terrorist attack, you know that
is I'm trying to think we had the Boston bombing.
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I don't. I'm just gonna have to look to compare
stats and numbers. That's that's an enormous amount of people
to lose in a terrorist attack. And we didn't see
from the We didn't see the president. Now he's reportedly
coming out today, but these are moments when you have
Americans killed by terrorists. We don't know yet if there
are Americans, we think that there could be Americans held
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hostage by Hamas, but we don't know yet. So it's
possible to have American hostages. We know we have at
least eleven that the State Department has come firm killed.
And don't forget Tutor, we have probably two hundred thousand
Americans that live in Israel or are visiting Israel right now.
I know of church groups that are there that can't
get out, people that are there on you know, we're
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there on holiday visiting. So what about all of those
Americans that could be trapped there. We have a pretty
poor record in this administration on leaving Americans behind. Last
I checked, there's still Americans left behind in Afghanistan. So
after the disastrous withdrawal from Afghanistan, when we had thirteen
dead Americans, and as I said, americans that are still
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left behind, I would think that this administration would say,
you know, this is a moment whenever the American people
need to really hear from our president. But he went
underground yesterday.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
What is the hesitation? I mean, what is the fear
of him coming out? Really? I think that the American
people are wondering why are you not here? I mean,
he didn't really, He's never talked to the families of
the thirteen that were lost in Afghanistan. He has now
not come out and discussed this. And to me, we go, man,
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he's fearful, and I don't want the President of the
United States to be fearful. And I don't think the
rest of America feels comfortable knowing that he's fearful and
hiding behind the walls of the White House.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
You know, I don't know exactly why he can't rise
to the moment. I don't know if it's a product
of just his age and his and his mental capacity
and his ability to do so. He's given some pretty
divisive speeches. I don't really know why he can't rise
to the moment. He's certainly a shell of the politician
that he used to be. I feel like the Biden
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of twenty years ago wouldn't be, you know, hiding in
the White House after eleven Americans were killed. So I
don't I don't know why I do. I do have
a sneaking suspicion that there's a little bit of a
guilty conscience in this administration. And what do I mean
by that they know that there are Ron policy has
been an abject failure, and they have had a couple,
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you know, several really big foreign policy failures they've had.
They've had two big foreign policy failures. Now they've had
a third. So what was the first one? Obviously the
disasters to withdraw from kabble, in which you know, the
Taliban took over in a number of days and weeks.
We were caught by surprise. We all remember, you know,
just how shocked we were to see that the president
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just clearly was not in control of the situation and
what happened. That was a huge blow to Biden. I
don't think he's ever recovered from that, and it was
and it's something that was just enormously shameful, enormously shameful
that we left in the way we did. And then
you look at the administration's failure to deter Putin from
invading Ukraine. You know, we have the worst war on
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European soil since World War Two, and that was another
massive deterrence failure by the administration. You know, their Biden's goal,
their stated policy goal, was to deter Putin from invading Ukraine,
and they failed at that. So you have the failure
of Afghanistan, the failure to deter Putin from invading Ukraine.
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And now listen, I am by no means saying or
implying that these terrorists, uh, you know, attacked Israel because
of Biden. That's that's that's silly. I'm not saying that.
But when you look at these administration's failure towards Iran,
how does that impact what happened on Saturday. Well, first
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of all, they chose to appease Iran for the past
three years, So what does that mean. That means that
they're not enforcing the legal sanctions that are on the books.
So there's US sanctions on Iran right now that the
Biden administration refuses to enforce. Ergo, they are able to
sell their oil again and they're getting billions of dollars
of revenue lining their pockets. And what do they do
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with that money? We know that multiple Republican and democratic
administrations have certified that Iran is the world's leading state
sponsor of terrorism. So they take that money that they
have gleaned from US not enforcing the sanctions and they
give it to Hamas, they fund himas they train jimas
they equip himas they provide them with all the military weaponry.
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So the attacks that we saw on Saturday could not
have happened without the Islamic Republic of Iran. Hamas is
one of their many proxies. This is, by the way,
this is the policy they pursue out the Middle East.
So the Biden team has chased around Iran for the
past three years in this appeasement policy, not enforcing sanctions,
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begging them to get back into the JCPOA which is
the Iran Deal, begging and cajoling them they didn't get
back in, and not being firm with them. So under
the Trump administration, under Secretary Mike Pompeo, we had a
very clear policy with Iran. We said, you touched the
hair of any American, if any of your proxies do this,
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then we hold you responsible. Because what was happening at
the time Tudor is Shea and milicias in Iraq had
tried to attack our embassy, They had tried to overrun
our embassy. They were trying to kill American service members
in Iraq. And so we told the Iranians, if the
she and militias that you fund, train and equip in
Iraq similar to what they do for to Jmas for Jimas.
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If these she and militias touched the head, touch the
hair of an American, we are holding you responsible. And
so we set a clear line. And because this administration
hasn't done that, Iran's terrorist proxies throughout the region feel
emboldened to behave in the manner that they did and
do this. So I think that listen, you you know
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they're running for cover. They just gave six billion dollars
of what less than two weeks ago and a ransom
payment that they paid Aron and they immediately came out
tutor and said, oh, well, the six billion dollars is
sitting in a bank account and Cuttar, it hasn't gone
to them yet. Okay. Number one, somebody should google the
word fungible in the administration and understand that money is fungible.
(19:37):
Number two, you've already given them sanctions relief essentially by
not enforcing it. Number three, maybe, just maybe this was
not a good time to give them six billion dollars.
And you know what, if that money is sitting and
a bank account and Cutter still, then take the freaking
money back.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Well, and I don't think that this was a surprise
that they just suddenly called Iran and said, hey, guess what,
We're going to actually give this money to you. I'm
sure this has been a negotiation that they're going on
since the Biden administration took over, and they have known
for quite a long time that they were going to
negotiate this money back to them. And I mean, this
attack it has taken months, if not years to plan.
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And Iran is the one who says go or no go.
So we know that this came from them feeling comfortable
that they were ready to launch this attack, and that
has to be It has to be taken into account
that this money was there. Now, We've talked a lot
about the Democrats, but I want to talk a little
bit about the Republicans because obviously we have a bunch
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of candidates that are running for president right now. This
is a big deal. Who is ready for the foreign policy,
for what's going on in Ukraine, for what's going on
with China, for what's going on with Israel. Who is
actually ready to handle this? And we saw Nikki Haley
come out and she said, and hamas Vi viik Ramaswami
is he's criticizing her for this response. He's saying, she
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sounds ridiculous saying this, but she was yelling and that
this was silly. I mean, do you want a candidate
who is going to say, hey, let's let's just stay
calm and really think about this, or do you want
someone who knows exactly where they stand on foreign policy
and who they stand with.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
Yeah, Vivegue needs to have a seat. He is you know,
it's borderline offensive. Uh you know what he is saying,
You know, Nikki Haley and listen. I have not endorsed
Nicki Haley, but just looking at the two of them
in this in this fight, and there's listen, There's some
things that Vivek does that I think are great, right, Like,
he goes into media that no other Republican will go into.
(21:42):
I was just listening to him on the is it
the uh not the shade Room? I forget, I forget
the name of it. But I listened to a you know,
definitely left of center podcast where he went in and
took bullets and answered all their questions. So I appreciate
that he does this, but in this particular instance, this
is not the moment to play politics and try to
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get one up on one of your primary competitors, especially
whenever she her words about ending Hamas resonated so much
with the Jewish people and the victims of terror attacks.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
So yes, she.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Said in Hamas, which is what we said after nine
to eleven after al Qaeda attacked us, and we wanted
to and we wanted to end al Qaeda and end
the terrorist threat from al Qaeda. So yes, that's how
the victims of terrorism feel in the moment. And I
just think this was a cheap political stunt by somebody
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who probably just really doesn't understand the situation. And I'd
be happy to brief him and talk to him and
explain it, but he needs to understand that there is
a difference between disagreeing on policy, which is fine, and
the emotions of the moment that so many people felt
after a terrorist attack. And that's the same emotions that
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we as Americans felt after nine to eleven and how
we wanted to end al Qaeda and end the terrorist
threat from coming to the United States from Afghanistan. Ever again,
so it is perfectly perfectly reasonable that Israel should want
to end the Hamas terrorist threat that is emanating from Gaza,
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the same way that we wanted to end the al
Qaeda terrist threat that was emanating from Afghanistan. It's the
same thing.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
So let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next
on the Tutor Dixon Podcast. Do you think that this
is a moment for Nikki Haley that other candidates won't have.
I think we're coming off of a pandemic where people
started to go, Wow, this world health organization that we trusted,
that we believed in. We're starting to see that you
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can kind of be bought and paid for in that organization,
and that organization can lean politically rather than for truly
the health of the people. And now people are looking
at the United Nations and going, what do we not
know about the United Nations? And as to the ambassador
to the United Nations, she's coming out and saying, hey, look,
they're saying they want a ceasefire. This is why I
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can tell you this group needs to be reformed in
some way. This is not a good group that has
come together. They're not fighting for the best things in
the world right now. Is she in a unique position
where the other candidates can't speak to this in the
way she can well, I think.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Listen, she certainly, as you an ambassador, can talk about this,
as you said firsthand experience, there can be a ceasefire
after the Hamas threat is eliminated. Sure, then we can
talk about a ceasefire. But I think we're a long
way from that. You know that I worked for President Trump,
and one of the things that has been so hard
about the past three years is whenever, you know, we
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were talking about kabble in Afghanistan and that disaster withdraw
it was so hard in that moment. It's been so
hard to watch the Russian you know, war in Ukraine
because these are things that you know wouldn't have happened
and didn't happen under President Trump and under his leadership.
And you know, when I look at at the end
of the Trump administration and those final months leading up
(25:12):
to the election, what did we do. Well, We signed
the inc on the Abraham Accords, the first peace deals
between Israel and Arab States in twenty six years. So
Trump handed Biden peace in the Middle East, right, he
handed him historic peace deals.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
And what did you see?
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Within three months Hamas had started attacking Israel. And now
you see three years into Biden's presidency. You see the
worst attack on the Jewish people since the Holocaust that
never ever would have happened under President Trump.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
And so well, that's he's come out. He's come out,
and he said that he's been very bold about saying, Look,
Ukraine didn't wouldn't have happened under my administration, and this
attack from Hamas would not have happened under my administration.
And I think a lot of people, obviously folks on
the on the right side of the aisle, are going, yeah,
we want that back. Look, we didn't have war, we
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didn't have any of our service members dying, we didn't
have this disastrous pull out from from Afghanistan, We did
not have all of these embarrassing catastrophes under the Trump administration.
Is it possible that a Trump administration comes back in
and these things really do start to get cleaned up.
I mean, he has said he has the ability to
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go in and negotiate and stop some of this, and
I think you've made it clear that this happens not
only through negotiation, but sanction and being tough. And the
Biden administration has been very weak, very wobbly on the
world stage. What does it look like if a Trump
administration goes back in there, how does this get cleaned
up quickly?
Speaker 2 (26:47):
You know? The analysis paralysis is what you really see
coming out of this National Security Council and out of
this White House. And if you look tutor at all
the articles when you read about you know, why why
does did Biden slow walk the aid to Ukraine? For example?
You know, I'm one of the people that are old
enough to remember when Trump, President Trump gave military and
(27:09):
lethal aid to the Ukrainians and then Joe Biden and
his team stopped that aid and they said, well, we
will only give lethal aid to the Ukrainians if Putin invades.
And so when you look at every article, they always
say things like, well we would do X, but we
don't want to provoke Putin, right, And it's the same thing.
You can go through any theater. Well, why do we
(27:30):
have the current appeasement policy towards China where every major
US official cabinet goes to China, goes to Beijing uninvited
to kiss the ring to the of the emperor. You know,
So we're doing this in every theater, right, not just
you know, not just with Russia, not just in the
Middle East, and so they're always worried about, well, if
(27:51):
we do X, then putin or Shijingping or Hamas or whomever,
or Ron, they will overreact if we do this. You
know that just a fundamentally different worldview than what we
had under Mike Pompeo, under President Trump. Listen, when Nikki
Hayley was at the UN when Pence was the vice president,
(28:11):
we all took our leadership. Of course, we were able
to be tough because we had a president that was tough,
and we said, you know what, we're going to do
the right thing and we'll see what the consequences are
when we moved the US. When President Trump moved the
US Embassy to Jerusalem, he said, wait a minute. The
law of the land states that the US Embassy must
be in Jerusalem, and Congress has to sign a waiver.
(28:33):
I think it was every six months, at least once
a year, Congress had to pass a waiver to keep
the US Embassy in Tel Aviv, as opposed to putting
it in Jerusalem, where the law of the Land said
it was supposed to be. Trump said, that makes no
sense to me. Everybody said you would start World War
three by putting the US embassy in Jerusalem. Spoiler alert
to your audience, tutor, we didn't start World War three.
(28:55):
They said the same thing whenever we stood for Israel
and their and sovereignty over the Goal on Heights, when
we stood by them, you know, over their settlements, all
of these issues and all these things. We said, we
are going to stand firm and strong with our allies
and friends. We're going to defend our allies and friends,
and we're going to punish our enemies. And when we
took out Kasum Sulimani, who was head of the Iranian
(29:18):
Coulds Force i RGC, Coulds Force, who's head of IERGC,
one of the world's leading terrorists, probably the world's leading
terrorist at the time, they definitely said we were going
to start World War three. Then right, we did not
because people knew, Wait a minute, this is a president,
this is a secretary of state, this is an administration
that actually means what they say. They're actually going to
(29:40):
follow through when they have a threat. And that's where
we need to get back to in our presence on
the world stage. In my opinion, you may not like it,
you may not agree with it, but you know where
we stand.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
Well. I think that, like I said when we started
this podcast, if you don't agree with taking care of
our allies, then maybe are in the wrong country. This
is not the place for you. We have allies, we
take care of them, and we certainly do not support terrorists. Sadly,
Iran as the number one sponsor of terror in the world,
(30:12):
and we need to be aware of that. We need
to be aware of what they're willing to do to
their own people, let alone people outside of their country,
and it is a concern for the entire United States
of America. Morgan or Tegis, thank you so much for
taking time to talk to us about this today. As
I said, we are praying for the people of Israel.
We will continue and we'll continue to follow this and
love to have you back as we get more in
(30:34):
detail as to what's happening over there in the Middle East.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Happy too, Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Tutor, Yes, thank you, and thank you all for joining
us on this episode of the Tutor Dixon Podcast. You
can subscribe at the Tutor diisonpodcast dot com or head
over to the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you
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