September 16, 2023 • 36 mins
22nd Anniversary of 9/11, Biden first president not to mark day in New York or Washington. Novak Djokovic, who was banned from last year's tournament for refusing covid shot, ironically wins the U.S. Open with the "Moderna Shot of the Day." Newsom admits covid mistakes, but doesn't take responsibility. Fauci lies about the Cochrane study on masks. "Fauci is a Liar" sign at Alabama game goes viral. RFK, Jr. complains about media. Will he go third party?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and buck
Sexton Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Welcome in Monday edition Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. We
have got a loaded program for you. On what is
the twenty second anniversary of nine to eleven.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Frank Seller will join us.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
I know it is a day of somber reflection for
many all over the country, particularly those of us who
are listening in the wor a listening area who were
directly impacted on that day twenty two years ago. We
will talk with Frank Seller, who has done incredible work
to ensure that no one ever forgets this day. We
(00:39):
will also be talking about a big win that came
out on Friday evening from the Fifth Circuit determining that
your federal government, the Biden administration in particular, had been
acting to censor the opinions of many of you out
there and the larger American population as it pertain to COVID.
(01:01):
This is potentially the most transformative First Amendment case in
the twenty first century.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Big ruling.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
There, we'll talk with the Attorney General of Missouri who
has been involved in bringing this case that could hold
Joe Biden and his administration responsible for what is actually
a direct attack on democracy, because if you cannot share
your opinions, we do not have in any way a
representative marketplace of ideas and a democratic process in place
(01:30):
at all.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
We will discuss that also.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Gavin Newsom, my boy, put down the line and said
maybe we got a few things wrong with COVID in
California in his Big Meat the Press interview, Buck, I'm
interested to hear all of this. President Biden not being
available to appear at nine to eleven. Instead, they've got
Kamala Harris doing the ceremonies this morning. But I wanted
(01:54):
to start. Oh what I think is one of the
most entertaining clips to potentially ever air during a tennis match,
Novak Djokovic wins his twenty fourth major and his championship
shot was brought to you by Maderna. If you have
not heard this, the one man who did not get
the COVID shot winning the championship Maderna's shot of today.
(02:18):
You're gonna love it. But I wanted to start, Buck.
First of all, do you have a good weekend? Exciting
times down in South Florida.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
I did, thank you.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
I watched the tennis which and I played some tennis,
so you know that's the thing. You watch it and
I want to get out there yourself. Yeah, right on
the good side of things. Everybody listening. They actually made
mention of this as well in the championship award ceremony.
Tennis more than any other activity. There's some study that
just came out, extends your life if you were a
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tennis player, more so than.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Jogging, swimming.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
Those are good, don't get me wrong, But tennis extends longevity.
This was what they were talking about in the winner
circle at the very end. But I have to say
it's it's frustrating to see how tennis is going.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Very woke too.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
I think if it was less heavily international, it's a
little bit diluted because it's such an international sport. Novak
djokeviches from Serbia and people from all over the world.
But the fifty years of equal pay signs on the court,
and there's just a lot. Also, I think it's none
of the commentators noted why isn't he at made?
Speaker 3 (03:23):
He probably would have.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
Won last summer too, Why isn't he at you at
Major win number twenty five? Because the bid administration had
a rule as we all know that if you weren't vaccinateed,
you could not legally enter the United States, even though
at that point by the by last summer it couldn't
have been more clear. You give people the value, you
give people the vACC and they still give people the virus.
(03:44):
It doesn't make any difference whatsoever. And we had millions
of illegals pouring over the border without any testing whatsoever,
and they're allowed to go to school with your kids.
Your kids, by the way, in New York City, must
be vaccinated. Illegals kids don't have to be vaccinated. I mean,
you're watching the degradation of law and of basic government
(04:05):
fairness in real time here. And I know we're talking
tennis and that may seem kind of extreme, but think
about what they did. It is moronic, beyond words. It
is incomprehensibly stupid. But it was vindictive. It was vindictive
because he would not bend the knee and do what
they wanted. Yeah, so they just said, screw it, you're
not allowed to play.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
It wasn't just the United States. I mean he lost
probably the Australian Open. I mean, he's going to set
for those of you out there are not tennis fans,
he's going to set the all time major record. Novak
Djokovic has and will continue to add to that. But
he lost what would have been several tournaments that he
would have been favored to win that would have allowed
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him to set the record even more majestically, even more
likely to not be ever challenged if he had been
allowed to play in them.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
Granted tennis player of all time by the numbers and avoids,
COVID show, nuts and gluten I will have you know,
does a lot to that.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Yeah, oh yeah, very very fastidious about his gluten free nature.
We'll talk about this a little bit more.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
He also wore a Kobe Bryant shirt and I was
watching this last night when he won with my wife,
and I said, I bet Kobe would.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
Have refused to get the COVID shot.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
And also, did you I mean that also, did you
see Matthew McConaughey in the in the box when Novak won?
Evidently he's big buds with Novak. I wonder whether McConaughey
refused to get the COVID shot. Nobody to my knowledge
has really asked him. But you know, there's that overlap
between sort of the Woody Harrelson hippie like world that
(05:39):
was very anti COVID shot, and then also the Trump
supporters that were very like There's that interesting overlap of
people who were just pro freedom and might be coming
at it from a different perspective. And I wonder if
McConaughey is actually in that camp too, just because he's
such good friends with Novak. It would seem like something
that they would talk about point in time.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
I'm still waiting for the mass apologies, and I will say,
I think, do we have Fauci? Do we have Fauci?
This clip of him from over the weekend, I'm calling
I'm calling an audible on this one because I just
was reminded of this.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Maybe maybe we have to load it up.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
He's now saying that the Cochrane study isn't definitive because
there are other studies. The Cochrane study is truly a
study of all the studies, correct, And Fauci's response is.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
But there are other studies that say other things.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
And you sit there and you look at him, You're like,
this man was left in charge of our pandemic. If
we had been in the if we had been in
the teeth of a much more dangerous virus like the
Spanish influenza, which was orders of magnitude more lethal.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
Can you imagine these far younger people, which is far scarier.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
Specifically targeted people twenty to forty by the numbers, more
than the very young or the very old. And if
these people had been in charge, I mean we might
have it might have turned into like mad Max.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
Out there on the streets.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
I mean, there are public health experts, are third rate
intellectuals and fourth rate politicians, and none of them have
been held to account. None from the Trump administration era,
none from the Biden administration era. And even Gavin Newsom,
who's out there, you know, being a communist, but a
well dressed and very smooth communist, likable communist. He's a
(07:27):
likable communist, I have to say here here he is
finally starting to and I think it's in anticipation of
some of the left wing California loons.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
They're gonna be like, we need a double mask.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
And I don't think I don't even think California is
going to go along with that fully. Remember they tried
to reinstitute a mask man that at one point, I
think it was in Philly and Philly.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
You know, I responded with saying, I don't think they
finally stood up for it. Yes, thank you Philadelphia. They
were like, get get that out of my face.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
Here's Gavin Newsom though when he's when he's it's been
what three years, Well, I'm trying to think going on
four years Chuck Todd sitting down with Gavin Newsom and
they're having a discussion about this, where Gavin all of
a sudden.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
It's like, yeah, man, I mean, it was just like
complicated fog of war bro playing.
Speaker 5 (08:15):
It was an interesting piece in Harper's that sort of
was critical of your decisions. From this perspective. You found
a way to allow the motion picture industry and the
sort of the movie industry to get back to work,
but she didn't allow people to grieve together at funerals
or at churches. And then this may be why there's
such a polarized disconnect. Would you prioritize right, this is
this anger between the.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Populace and the elite.
Speaker 5 (08:36):
Supposed here you prioritize this industry, but you know you
were tougher on those that just wanted to go worship.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
So what do you say to that Christias. I think
there's a lot of humility.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
And we didn't know.
Speaker 6 (08:45):
We didn't know, and it was hardly I it was
we collectively, and I think all of us in terms
of our collective wisdom.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
We've evolved. We didn't know, we didn't know. We're experts
in hindsight.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
Whether it's Lenin's Soviet Union or you know, go down
the list. No one is ever responsible for the horrible
things that happen, including the leadership Clay, because it's a
collective decision. Everybody agreed together. That is a lie and
a flaggered one. Gavin Newsom, the buck stops with him
in California and what he did to that state, among
(09:17):
other governors, what they did to their states is inexcusable
and it was wrong top to bottom, and it showed favoritism.
It was not only was it wrong, it was unprincipled.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
I think we're being very fair if we say, okay,
let's take March and April off the table, and March
and April of twenty twenty, I mean, if you say, okay,
I'm not going to directly judge anyone in March and
April of twenty twenty because it was so new that
the analysis was so early. By May of twenty twenty,
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and certainly by June of twenty twenty, all of the
data that you needed to make rational decisions about COVID
were readily available, And it was inexcusable in my mind
to be making most of the decisions that were being
made from May of twenty twenty on. Now some of
you out there listening are saying, Clay, you're being too kind,
(10:10):
that we shouldn't have done with and look you, and
I argued again, you famously got got absolutely flambayed on
social media buck for saying open everything up by Easter
of twenty twenty. But and that was a very reasonable opinion,
and I was arguing it by then too, like, hey,
let's get everything back to normal. We can't have non
essential But I'm trying to be generous and just say
(10:33):
March and April. Let's take March and April off the table.
Every decision from May of twenty twenty, everyone who had
a functional brain had every information they needed by May
of twenty twenty.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
I was broadly treated on the Internet as though I
was advocating for nuclear annihilation. Yes, because I said, guys,
protect the protect the elderly, everybody else get back to life. Yeah,
that was one the right thing, correct. Anyone who says
otherwise is a liar or a moron. That was one
hundred percent the right approach. We know this from the data,
(11:03):
We know this from reality, we know this from history.
And yet, and yet, who was held accountable for any
of this. The COVID task Force. COVID task Force under
Trump was horrible. Okay, the task force was horrible. I
don't think any does anyone to call on and disagree
with that.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
It was. It was awful.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
You could say, those are the experts, that's what we had. Fine,
but you know, we went to COVID War with the
with the army we had, and it was a disaster.
And then and with Biden, they just they up the ante.
I was telling people in the summer of twenty twenty.
They kept saying there was people forget this. There was
a theory out there. Biden's gonna pull all the restrictions.
Biden's gonna open everything up as soon as and I
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kept look at everybody, so what are you talking about.
They love this, they love this, They want to do
more of this. They want to tell you what to
do where you can go your what businesses stay open
and stay closed? How many shocks you can get, how
many masks to wear? This was like, this was the
ultimate dream of the Democrat Party in this country. It's
basically because they're socialists and they're collectivists, and this is
what they want it. It's authoritarianism under the guys of
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health measures. And yet who has.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Really been helped.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
Fauci still feels comfortable going, can we come back and
do the Fauci?
Speaker 2 (12:09):
We go back here to can we do Fauci? Because
this is yeah, And then we'll play. We'll play at
the thirty. We'll have some fun with Djokovic as well.
But this is important, and I do think the consequential
nature of this is so important. We hoped in twenty
twenty two everybody who failed on COVID it would be
held accountable. Virtually no one lost their jobs over ever
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getting everything wrong on COVID. And this is why Buck
we're in football season. This is why I keep using
this analogy, and I think it's striking home with a
lot of people. We hold high school football coaches to
higher standards of job performance than we do most of
our elected officials.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
The people that are in charge of stocking the shelves
at grocery stores. We hold to a higher standard because
they actually have to show them to the jobs.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
They have to do their job.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
The people that we're supposed to protect us from COVID
utterly fail top to bottom.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
The store shows are empty, so to speak. They utterly failed.
We'll come back.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
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Speaker 1 (14:08):
The voices of sanity in an insane world, Claye Travis said,
Buck Sexton.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
We told you that Fouch was out there making the
rounds on television. I mean, he's not even governed anymore.
Why does he Why does he feel the need grat
You know, he can't time for us. Yeah, for years
he couldn't find time to come on with us. But
why yeah, why is he still doing interviews everywhere? Fauci
is like the evil lab lab coat clad totalitarian smurf
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of our nightmares.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
He will not go away.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
I'm back to tell you it's time to consider putting
another mitigation measure on your face. It's horrible here he is.
I mean, you've got to hear his justification because the
Conchrane study.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Is within the medical field.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
If you work at the CDC, if you work at
the NIH, if you work at you know, the World organization.
Cochrane study is the gold standard. Okay, this is supposed
to be the best data analysis you get in the
medical field. The Cochrane study says masks have zero, zero
discernible benefit based on the numbers. So what does Fauci say?
(15:17):
There are other studies play it.
Speaker 7 (15:19):
Some of the studies that they're confusing. The study that
recently has been now quoted a lot and causing a
lot of confusion is this Cochrane study, which even the
people who run the Corcran studies say that that study
can be misleading because people have commented on that study
saying absolutely masks don't work, which is absolutely not the case,
because there are a number of studies that show that
(15:41):
masks actually do work. And there's a lot of confusion
when you take a series of studies and you look
at them in a meta analysis.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
Only a couple of those studies.
Speaker 7 (15:50):
Who are specifically looking at COVID. So I think we
better be careful that that study that people keep talking
about can be very, very misleading. There's a lot of
good data that mass work.
Speaker 4 (16:01):
This is a BS magic show he's trying to pull here, Clay.
The numbers are clear that there could be some other
numbers that aren't included. Is always true of anything, but
I mean masking is the foundational sacrament of Fauciism. He's
never gonna, never gonna walk away from it.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
The way to bring this home, I think for a
lot of people is the idea of the Cochrane study
is we look at all of these studies combined and
then weight them totally so that any one individual study
is not used as the one size fits all method.
In other words, if you're out there and you invest,
and you invest like I do, you buy s and
P five hundred stocks for instance, any one of those
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five hundred stocks may be up massively or down massively
on a day to day basis, but the overall weighted
average of the five hundred moves in concert, that is
the market. What Fauci is saying is, oh, there's individual
It's like if there's a bull or bear market. Right
for everybody out there listening, bull market things are going up,
bear market things are going down. What Fauci is saying is, oh,
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the market might have one direction or the other, but
there are individual stocks that are doing well. And so
that means that you have to look at the individual stocks,
not the market as a whole. Well, no, that's the
exact opposite of what we should be doing. We should
be looking at the totality of information, not one small
segment of it. He's a liar, and a part of
(17:23):
me wonders buck to what extent he did? You see
the Fauci is a liar. At game day, congratulations the
Alabama fans right there? Who got that sign in that
went super viral at the Alabama Texas game. I loved
it because he is a liar. That's the essence of
all of this.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
I didn't see it, but of course I'm happy to
know that my beloved Crimson Tide is flowing and doing
such a great right.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
That's the yes, yeah, yeahah, thank you.
Speaker 4 (17:49):
Well they lost this weekend tex well, right, but at
least they're holding Fauci to account.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
So yes, Roll Tide, Mike. Crimson Tide.
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Let's go ahead and have a little bit of fun
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with this. I was watching Novak Djokovic win the US
Open last night.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
I am a big fan of Novak.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
We've talked about him on this show a lot because
he refused to get the COVID shot and Buck he
wins his twenty fourth US Open, sorry, twenty fourth major,
which is I don't know the several of you, several
of them are US Opens. But he wasn't allowed to
play in the Australian Open or the US Open because
he refused to get the COVID shot. Now he had
(19:28):
COVID a couple of times. He's obviously in.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
What ninety nine point ninety nine.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Percentile health If you saw the guy take his shirt
off and he's probably four or five percent body fat.
If that the greatest tennis player in the world of
all time, Yes, he's and the greatest tennis player of
all time thirty six years old. I believe clearly did
not need a shot for COVID. It made the choice
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not to get it, and that meant that he was
not allowed to play in the US Open last year.
Although interestingly, but they let him play in twenty twenty one.
Then they wouldn't let him play in twenty twenty two.
Then he comes back and he wins. Maderna is spending
money like crazy? Honest question for you, Buck, and this
is a big picture question. I think that it's rare
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that we allow drug companies to advertise as much as
they're allowed to advertise in the United States.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
Right.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
I mean, you watch any sporting event, you watch any
television program, A huge percentage of the advertising dollars that
are spent are drug company advertisements.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
Right.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
I mean I'm talking about you have to get a
prescription to get this. I'm not talking about over the
counter like tailanol or aspirin or something like that.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
We allowed drug companies. I mean for a long time before.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
Prescription thing was yeah, exactly from prescription drug companies. So
that means you can only get this by law from
a physician who says you need it, which then, of
course raises the question why do people in the general
public have to be inundated with image of things that
they're only legally allowed to get if an expert professional
says you need this thing?
Speaker 3 (21:06):
Correct?
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Because what happens is, and I guarantee you there are
lots of doctors out there listening to us right now
who are nodding along. The reason why they're advertising is
they want people to walk into a doctor's office and say, hey,
I need X or Y, and then the doctor writes it.
I mean, the branding of the drug makes the drug
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far more popular and valuable and for all of you
out there listening, I just would ask you to think
about it. Wait a minute, If you really need medical treatment,
why would you be the one who recognizes that you
need that medical treatment and be walking in to get it.
So the reason why I bring this up is Maderna
sponsors the US Open and by the way, Maderna, I'm told,
(21:51):
also tries to buy up ads during our podcast show.
People have sent me messages and been like, hey, Clay,
Maderna Advisor are buying up ads during your your Clay
and Buck show, which is funny in and of itself.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
Yeah, hopefully we're not gonna be flying around in Pfizer
Force one anytime soon here. But you know, nonetheless, well yeah, right,
the Clay and Buck brought to you by Maderna would
be a tough sell, I think, but we don't. So
just for everybody out there, no, because I'm sure you
get some of these messages every now and then, like
you like we, Buck and I don't sell advertising on
the podcast network, right, like, we are not in charge
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of the ads that you hear. Just FYI, well a
lot of that is programmatic as well. It's a whole
lot of conversation. But look, the drug companies do do
obviously a lot of people listening to this. No, I
mean drugs are keeping people alive. I mean the pharma companies.
It's more complicated than just.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
Big pharma is bad.
Speaker 4 (22:44):
Well, you know, if you need statins, if you need
different medications, if you need things out there, you're very
happy that we have the drug companies producing this stuff, clearly,
But when you're looking at the vaccines and what happened
with COVID, I mean, it turned into nobody was really
responsible for the decision was made for the decision that
was made to make everybody get the shot, or to
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try to make everybody get this shot.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
Because the drug company's point.
Speaker 4 (23:08):
At the administration at that time, it was the Trump
administration and then Member Biden was the mandates, to be clear, obviously,
but then it was a Biden administration that was ramming
those shots into everyone's arms. But the drug companies say, look,
we just did what the federal government told us to
in a moment of crisis, right, so you know, that's
why they got indemnified.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
That's why they're not you can't be sued about this.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
And then the administration both of them just say we're
in a crisis, and we told the drug companies go
as fast as you can, and we thought that they
knew what they were doing. You know, It's a little
bit like if you got a big tax problem, you go,
it wasn't my fault, that was my accountant in your
accountant goes ah.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
I just used the numbers he gave me. I don't
know any better.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
Like that's kind of the situation we're all in here
with the COVID vackshot in terms of accountability, And I mean,
I wonder, what do you think the numbers are going
to be for a Mayrior fans who get another round
now of that of COVID.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
Vaccine, what do you think?
Speaker 2 (24:05):
According Marty McCarey, who came on with us and wrote
this in the Wall Street Journal, I think only twenty
percent of Americans got the most recent round of COVID booster.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
Do you think it'll be less than that? Yes?
Speaker 2 (24:19):
So?
Speaker 3 (24:19):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (24:20):
Isn't that interesting that it effectively tracks political ideology? Because
if you ask me how many people in this country
are a hard left climate change, you know, all that stuff,
I would say it's about twenty percent of the country.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
That is just completely.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
You know, women can have male genitals like they don't
believe anything, and they'll go along with anything that the
authoritarian left demands.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
It's about the same as what you're seeing with the
COVID shot at this point. Yeah, it's about the same.
I think.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
I think there's a huge crossover, is my point. Oh yeah,
I think you're one hundred percent right. I think even
those people are starting to dwindle, so I think it
fits at twenty percent most recently. Now, what they're trying
to do, and I'm not an expert in this, but
I think they're trying to sink the flush with the
COVID shot, right, isn't that the new goal? So you
can have your yearly flu shot in your yearly COVID
(25:07):
shot and they're somehow intertwined. I think that's what they're
trying to do. I don't know what the latest is. Yeah,
the best model they can get. And this is true, Nay,
who's starting a business or whatever, This is always important.
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Speaker 4 (25:20):
Yeah, it's basically because your cost per acquisition is very high.
So if you can get a subscriber who's getting the
product every month. Now, this also if you want the product.
That's great because you're getting delivered every month or on
the schedule you need, and so it's a win win
for everybody. But from the perspective of the covid vaccine manufacturers,
they've got to slip in the updated covid vaccine with
(25:45):
the flu shot so that they increase the perceived value
proposition so that it becomes a normalized and repeated part
of standard healthcare. You just get this shot every year,
and they don't have to get huge capacity or rather
huge adoption of this across the country for it to
still be a very successful business model for them, right right,
(26:06):
because they're just kind of updating the formula year in
and year out. So yeah, I mean you can see
exactly what they're doing. I mean, I'll never forget reading
about I think it was moderna specifically, people who all
these executives who during the pandemic were buying like ten
million dollars townhouses in Boston and in the Hamptons, and
it was just a total total spending spree because they
(26:29):
knew that was as good as it was going to
get with your tax dollars. And they're also spending because
they got guaranteed tax dollars from you and me and
everybody out there for COVID shots that didn't work and
to a large extent, were worthless, you know, two or
three months after they went into everybody's arms. So they're
sponsoring a US Open, and Novak Djokovic famously said, screw
(26:51):
you to the idea that you should have to get
the COVID shot.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
This is what aired. I swear you couldn't even make
this up. This is what aired on ESPN. And right
after Novak Djokovic won, they have a segment called the
Maderna Shot of the Day that is honoring Novak Djokovic,
the only guy who didn't get the shot winning the
US Open.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
Listen to this audience, Well.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
It'll take you to the Madernist Shot of the day
and it was.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
Saving the point, that's point to get to number twenty four.
There were a lot of shots that were highly impactful.
I mean, that's amazing. It's amazing, isn't it. Were you
watching that? Did you see that happen in real time?
Speaker 6 (27:32):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (27:32):
I did, Yes, it's amazing. There was like this wasn't
is that real? I was like, oh, well, let's a
rewind that make sure. I'm pretty sure we just heard
the Maderna's shot of the day, the championship shot from
Novak Djokovic. The only thing that could have been better
is if you had said, I'd like to thank Maderna
for their worthless shot keeping me out, Like I mean,
that would.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
Have been amazing in the in the thank you speech.
Speaker 4 (27:52):
Well, you have to also, uh, if you go back
and you listen to what the commentators were saying.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
You know, it's like Macenroe and Brad Gilbert and a
couple of others.
Speaker 4 (28:03):
If you listen to them, they make reference to Novak
not in the tournament last year. But no one ever,
no one ever, you think they're commentators, right, no one
ever says, well that was moronic.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
Yeah they kept him out.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
Why, Like, there's no it's just kind of like, yeah,
he just missed it, you know, it's like he took
a sick day. But no, actually it was a very
clear bind administration decision. And look there at some level
too that the leftist democrat mechanistic ideology of control in
their control freaks. I mean, they just want to be
(28:38):
in charge of people and when you and everything that
you're doing, and if you push back against that. They
think that you are a threat to the established order,
or rather the order that they are trying to establish.
And that's that's the whole thing. You're not allowed to
non comply. And Novak non complied, and now he's got
twenty four championships.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Yeah, and then he wore the Kobe Bryant because Kobe
Bryant wore twenty four for the Lakers out there. I
actually when I was watching that and I turned to
my wife because we were watching this together. When he won,
I said, I bet, if Kobe Bryant this is a prediction. Obviously,
we don't know, because Kobe died tragically like a couple
of weeks before the whole COVID craziness started in the
helicopter crash in LA. I think Kobe, being as good
(29:22):
a friends with Novak as he was, and as willing
to challenge conventional authority, I think if he were still
in alive, I think he might have been another one
of those athletes, along with Aaron Rodgers, Kyrie, Irving, Novak, Djokovic,
who was willing to challenge conventional wisdom and smart enough
(29:42):
to have looked at all the data and said, yeah,
this doesn't add up right. It takes somebody who is
a rare thinker to be willing to stand up in
that situation.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
And very rich and have the ability to maneuver around
the You know, this is the thing. There were people
who were able to avoid getting the shot because it
was feasible for them.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
They are other people who it was.
Speaker 4 (30:02):
You know, if you're a nurse, you're working at a
hospital in New York, it was get the shot or
lose your job. Now, some lost their jobs, and some
people in the military, as we know think about we
haven't even had a full accounting of all of that.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
No people lost their jobs over this, lost their jobs
over what exactly. Refusing to bend the knee. Practice makes perfect.
You know the phrase.
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Speaker 4 (31:30):
It's going to dive into politics here in a moment,
but this is both political and COVID related to nature,
or at least the willingness to question some of what
went on there. RFK Junior we had him on the
show numerous times, and there are a lot of people
who were calling in at one point or at least,
(31:51):
we were getting a fair number of callers who fervently
believed that we should take a look at RFK Junior.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
I was highly skeptical. And he's still in the race. Here.
Speaker 4 (32:01):
He is telling everybody that he thinks he's not getting
a fair he's not getting a fair shake from the media.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
That much I think is certainly true. Play it.
Speaker 6 (32:09):
My polling numbers are better than ron De Santis and
or any other candidate except for Biden Trump. But I'm
you know, even when they talk about me on the
on the d NC channels, on CNN and ms NBC,
they always refer to me. My first name is long
shot candidate. I'm not allowed on CNN or MSNBC at all,
(32:31):
and all of the Republican candidates I can go on there.
Jake Tapper has said publicly that he will not do
a town hall for me, even though he's done them
with Nikki Hally and with Ronda Santis.
Speaker 4 (32:42):
It's syal now, Clay RFK Junior, You've you saw early
on that you've you've had some I mean, I agree
with him on COVID. I just think that him running
against the Democrat as a Democrat is a waste of everybody's.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
Time because it's not going to happen.
Speaker 4 (32:56):
But he's down sixty points in the latest polling, so
it's more than anyone is even behind Trump on the
Republican side. He is complaining, however, about his treatment in
the media. I feel like he should be expecting this.
What do you think about? All this is is the
RFK moment as a Democrat, which I have to pick.
I had to keep reminding everybody, no Democrats that I
knew we're talking about this guy.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
Is it passed or is it gonna come up again?
Speaker 4 (33:19):
Now that the numbers on Biden's age and infirmity and
the speech he gave over the weekend, you know what
I mean?
Speaker 3 (33:25):
Is it done or are we in the early stages.
It's a good question.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
I think he's one hundred percent right that the fix
is in, and it's a great point that he's making.
Like all of the Republicans running are getting town halls
on CNN.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
I've seen a lot.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
Of the Republicans who were willing to go on MSNBC.
I've certainly seen RFK Junior on Fox News a bunch.
I think we've had him on once on this show.
I can't remember it was once or twice. I think
him on this show, okay, a couple times, and uh,
I think we be willing to have him on again.
The fix is in now. The question I think Buck
(34:02):
that is interesting about this is does he get upset
enough that he contemplates running as a third party?
Speaker 3 (34:11):
And that gets very interesting?
Speaker 2 (34:14):
And what is the impact of an RFK junior on
a third party race if if he draws fifteen or
twenty percent, that might otherwise vote for Biden. So I mean,
I'll tell you, I think that's interesting.
Speaker 4 (34:30):
I think the history of third party candidates is essentially
a candidate who will give the eventual Democrat or Republican
loser an excuse for why they lost. Because to this day,
people still argue over over Ross Perrot, who did he count,
who did he take more votes from?
Speaker 2 (34:49):
I know there's analysis jill Stein and the Libertarians to
what they did to Trump in twenty because that's the
difference in Trump winning or not in twenty If the Libertarians, folks,
if Jill, if Jill Stein doesn't run, I'm pretty sure
it certainly is a lot closer for Hillary and Hillary
actually Hillary would have won. So for all the like,
oh my gosh, the Trump, you know, magic and it
(35:09):
was magical, was amazing.
Speaker 4 (35:10):
I'm not saying it wasn't a great moment. In twenty sixteen,
I was actually in happiness shock for a day. I
was like, what, let's walking around New York City in
the Flatiron District where I lived at the time, and
Clay it was like it and the honestly, the only
thing it reminded me of because I was in college
during nine to eleven. Obviously, today's are remembrance of nine eleven.
We'll talk more about that with Frank Ziller Tunnel the towers
(35:31):
in the next hour. But it really reminded me of
the aftermath of Hurricane Sandy, because people were walking around
in this daze. They weren't really you know, after nine
eleven people were terrified. It was a whole other level, right,
But after Sandy, most people I saw walking on the
streets a lot of mid lost power. They and they
were just sort of confused and trying to find a
place and where to go, and they couldn't use the
(35:52):
elevators and you know, to get up to the fortieth
story where they live and all this kind of stuff.
When Trump won in twenty sixteen, that that's what it
was like in Manhattan walking around.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
People were just total shock.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
Yeah, yeah, and look, we'll see because I still feel
like twenty twenty four, if it's Trump Biden is going
to be so close that on the margins, you know
what the No Labels Party decides to do.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
Does Robert F.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
Kennedy Junior get so frustrated at the way that he's
being blocked by the DNC that he decides he wants
to run as a third party? Does Trump flirt with
RFK Junior? Could you see Buck just tossing it out there?
Could you see a world where RFK Junior says Trump
is the better candidate than Joe Biden?
Speaker 3 (36:36):
Just I don't think it out there. I don't think so.
Speaker 4 (36:39):
But if the Democrats continue to give him the stiff
arm and not let him get a fair say, he
may decide, you know, he's just gonna take the DNC
and take a sledgehammer to it.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
I don't know.
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and buck
Sexton Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Welcome in Monday edition Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. We
have got a loaded program for you. On what is
the twenty second anniversary of nine to eleven.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Frank Seller will join us.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
I know it is a day of somber reflection for
many all over the country, particularly those of us who
are listening in the wor a listening area who were
directly impacted on that day twenty two years ago. We
will talk with Frank Seller, who has done incredible work
to ensure that no one ever forgets this day. We
(00:39):
will also be talking about a big win that came
out on Friday evening from the Fifth Circuit determining that
your federal government, the Biden administration in particular, had been
acting to censor the opinions of many of you out
there and the larger American population as it pertain to COVID.
(01:01):
This is potentially the most transformative First Amendment case in
the twenty first century.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Big ruling.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
There, we'll talk with the Attorney General of Missouri who
has been involved in bringing this case that could hold
Joe Biden and his administration responsible for what is actually
a direct attack on democracy, because if you cannot share
your opinions, we do not have in any way a
representative marketplace of ideas and a democratic process in place
(01:30):
at all.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
We will discuss that also.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Gavin Newsom, my boy, put down the line and said
maybe we got a few things wrong with COVID in
California in his Big Meat the Press interview, Buck, I'm
interested to hear all of this. President Biden not being
available to appear at nine to eleven. Instead, they've got
Kamala Harris doing the ceremonies this morning. But I wanted
(01:54):
to start. Oh what I think is one of the
most entertaining clips to potentially ever air during a tennis match,
Novak Djokovic wins his twenty fourth major and his championship
shot was brought to you by Maderna. If you have
not heard this, the one man who did not get
the COVID shot winning the championship Maderna's shot of today.
(02:18):
You're gonna love it. But I wanted to start, Buck.
First of all, do you have a good weekend? Exciting
times down in South Florida.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
I did, thank you.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
I watched the tennis which and I played some tennis,
so you know that's the thing. You watch it and
I want to get out there yourself. Yeah, right on
the good side of things. Everybody listening. They actually made
mention of this as well in the championship award ceremony.
Tennis more than any other activity. There's some study that
just came out, extends your life if you were a
(02:46):
tennis player, more so than.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Jogging, swimming.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
Those are good, don't get me wrong, But tennis extends longevity.
This was what they were talking about in the winner
circle at the very end. But I have to say
it's it's frustrating to see how tennis is going.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Very woke too.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
I think if it was less heavily international, it's a
little bit diluted because it's such an international sport. Novak
djokeviches from Serbia and people from all over the world.
But the fifty years of equal pay signs on the court,
and there's just a lot. Also, I think it's none
of the commentators noted why isn't he at made?
Speaker 3 (03:23):
He probably would have.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
Won last summer too, Why isn't he at you at
Major win number twenty five? Because the bid administration had
a rule as we all know that if you weren't vaccinateed,
you could not legally enter the United States, even though
at that point by the by last summer it couldn't
have been more clear. You give people the value, you
give people the vACC and they still give people the virus.
(03:44):
It doesn't make any difference whatsoever. And we had millions
of illegals pouring over the border without any testing whatsoever,
and they're allowed to go to school with your kids.
Your kids, by the way, in New York City, must
be vaccinated. Illegals kids don't have to be vaccinated. I mean,
you're watching the degradation of law and of basic government
(04:05):
fairness in real time here. And I know we're talking
tennis and that may seem kind of extreme, but think
about what they did. It is moronic, beyond words. It
is incomprehensibly stupid. But it was vindictive. It was vindictive
because he would not bend the knee and do what
they wanted. Yeah, so they just said, screw it, you're
not allowed to play.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
It wasn't just the United States. I mean he lost
probably the Australian Open. I mean, he's going to set
for those of you out there are not tennis fans,
he's going to set the all time major record. Novak
Djokovic has and will continue to add to that. But
he lost what would have been several tournaments that he
would have been favored to win that would have allowed
(04:45):
him to set the record even more majestically, even more
likely to not be ever challenged if he had been
allowed to play in them.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
Granted tennis player of all time by the numbers and avoids,
COVID show, nuts and gluten I will have you know,
does a lot to that.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Yeah, oh yeah, very very fastidious about his gluten free nature.
We'll talk about this a little bit more.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
He also wore a Kobe Bryant shirt and I was
watching this last night when he won with my wife,
and I said, I bet Kobe would.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
Have refused to get the COVID shot.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
And also, did you I mean that also, did you
see Matthew McConaughey in the in the box when Novak won?
Evidently he's big buds with Novak. I wonder whether McConaughey
refused to get the COVID shot. Nobody to my knowledge
has really asked him. But you know, there's that overlap
between sort of the Woody Harrelson hippie like world that
(05:39):
was very anti COVID shot, and then also the Trump
supporters that were very like There's that interesting overlap of
people who were just pro freedom and might be coming
at it from a different perspective. And I wonder if
McConaughey is actually in that camp too, just because he's
such good friends with Novak. It would seem like something
that they would talk about point in time.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
I'm still waiting for the mass apologies, and I will say,
I think, do we have Fauci? Do we have Fauci?
This clip of him from over the weekend, I'm calling
I'm calling an audible on this one because I just
was reminded of this.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Maybe maybe we have to load it up.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
He's now saying that the Cochrane study isn't definitive because
there are other studies. The Cochrane study is truly a
study of all the studies, correct, And Fauci's response is.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
But there are other studies that say other things.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
And you sit there and you look at him, You're like,
this man was left in charge of our pandemic. If
we had been in the if we had been in
the teeth of a much more dangerous virus like the
Spanish influenza, which was orders of magnitude more lethal.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
Can you imagine these far younger people, which is far scarier.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
Specifically targeted people twenty to forty by the numbers, more
than the very young or the very old. And if
these people had been in charge, I mean we might
have it might have turned into like mad Max.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
Out there on the streets.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
I mean, there are public health experts, are third rate
intellectuals and fourth rate politicians, and none of them have
been held to account. None from the Trump administration era,
none from the Biden administration era. And even Gavin Newsom,
who's out there, you know, being a communist, but a
well dressed and very smooth communist, likable communist. He's a
(07:27):
likable communist, I have to say here here he is
finally starting to and I think it's in anticipation of
some of the left wing California loons.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
They're gonna be like, we need a double mask.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
And I don't think I don't even think California is
going to go along with that fully. Remember they tried
to reinstitute a mask man that at one point, I
think it was in Philly and Philly.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
You know, I responded with saying, I don't think they
finally stood up for it. Yes, thank you Philadelphia. They
were like, get get that out of my face.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
Here's Gavin Newsom though when he's when he's it's been
what three years, Well, I'm trying to think going on
four years Chuck Todd sitting down with Gavin Newsom and
they're having a discussion about this, where Gavin all of
a sudden.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
It's like, yeah, man, I mean, it was just like
complicated fog of war bro playing.
Speaker 5 (08:15):
It was an interesting piece in Harper's that sort of
was critical of your decisions. From this perspective. You found
a way to allow the motion picture industry and the
sort of the movie industry to get back to work,
but she didn't allow people to grieve together at funerals
or at churches. And then this may be why there's
such a polarized disconnect. Would you prioritize right, this is
this anger between the.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Populace and the elite.
Speaker 5 (08:36):
Supposed here you prioritize this industry, but you know you
were tougher on those that just wanted to go worship.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
So what do you say to that Christias. I think
there's a lot of humility.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
And we didn't know.
Speaker 6 (08:45):
We didn't know, and it was hardly I it was
we collectively, and I think all of us in terms
of our collective wisdom.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
We've evolved. We didn't know, we didn't know. We're experts
in hindsight.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
Whether it's Lenin's Soviet Union or you know, go down
the list. No one is ever responsible for the horrible
things that happen, including the leadership Clay, because it's a
collective decision. Everybody agreed together. That is a lie and
a flaggered one. Gavin Newsom, the buck stops with him
in California and what he did to that state, among
(09:17):
other governors, what they did to their states is inexcusable
and it was wrong top to bottom, and it showed favoritism.
It was not only was it wrong, it was unprincipled.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
I think we're being very fair if we say, okay,
let's take March and April off the table, and March
and April of twenty twenty, I mean, if you say, okay,
I'm not going to directly judge anyone in March and
April of twenty twenty because it was so new that
the analysis was so early. By May of twenty twenty,
(09:50):
and certainly by June of twenty twenty, all of the
data that you needed to make rational decisions about COVID
were readily available, And it was inexcusable in my mind
to be making most of the decisions that were being
made from May of twenty twenty on. Now some of
you out there listening are saying, Clay, you're being too kind,
(10:10):
that we shouldn't have done with and look you, and
I argued again, you famously got got absolutely flambayed on
social media buck for saying open everything up by Easter
of twenty twenty. But and that was a very reasonable opinion,
and I was arguing it by then too, like, hey,
let's get everything back to normal. We can't have non
essential But I'm trying to be generous and just say
(10:33):
March and April. Let's take March and April off the table.
Every decision from May of twenty twenty, everyone who had
a functional brain had every information they needed by May
of twenty twenty.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
I was broadly treated on the Internet as though I
was advocating for nuclear annihilation. Yes, because I said, guys,
protect the protect the elderly, everybody else get back to life. Yeah,
that was one the right thing, correct. Anyone who says
otherwise is a liar or a moron. That was one
hundred percent the right approach. We know this from the data,
(11:03):
We know this from reality, we know this from history.
And yet, and yet, who was held accountable for any
of this. The COVID task Force. COVID task Force under
Trump was horrible. Okay, the task force was horrible. I
don't think any does anyone to call on and disagree
with that.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
It was. It was awful.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
You could say, those are the experts, that's what we had. Fine,
but you know, we went to COVID War with the
with the army we had, and it was a disaster.
And then and with Biden, they just they up the ante.
I was telling people in the summer of twenty twenty.
They kept saying there was people forget this. There was
a theory out there. Biden's gonna pull all the restrictions.
Biden's gonna open everything up as soon as and I
(11:40):
kept look at everybody, so what are you talking about.
They love this, they love this, They want to do
more of this. They want to tell you what to
do where you can go your what businesses stay open
and stay closed? How many shocks you can get, how
many masks to wear? This was like, this was the
ultimate dream of the Democrat Party in this country. It's
basically because they're socialists and they're collectivists, and this is
what they want it. It's authoritarianism under the guys of
(12:02):
health measures. And yet who has.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Really been helped.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
Fauci still feels comfortable going, can we come back and
do the Fauci?
Speaker 2 (12:09):
We go back here to can we do Fauci? Because
this is yeah, And then we'll play. We'll play at
the thirty. We'll have some fun with Djokovic as well.
But this is important, and I do think the consequential
nature of this is so important. We hoped in twenty
twenty two everybody who failed on COVID it would be
held accountable. Virtually no one lost their jobs over ever
(12:31):
getting everything wrong on COVID. And this is why Buck
we're in football season. This is why I keep using
this analogy, and I think it's striking home with a
lot of people. We hold high school football coaches to
higher standards of job performance than we do most of
our elected officials.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
The people that are in charge of stocking the shelves
at grocery stores. We hold to a higher standard because
they actually have to show them to the jobs.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
They have to do their job.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
The people that we're supposed to protect us from COVID
utterly fail top to bottom.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
The store shows are empty, so to speak. They utterly failed.
We'll come back.
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Speaker 1 (14:08):
The voices of sanity in an insane world, Claye Travis said,
Buck Sexton.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
We told you that Fouch was out there making the
rounds on television. I mean, he's not even governed anymore.
Why does he Why does he feel the need grat
You know, he can't time for us. Yeah, for years
he couldn't find time to come on with us. But
why yeah, why is he still doing interviews everywhere? Fauci
is like the evil lab lab coat clad totalitarian smurf
(14:38):
of our nightmares.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
He will not go away.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
I'm back to tell you it's time to consider putting
another mitigation measure on your face. It's horrible here he is.
I mean, you've got to hear his justification because the
Conchrane study.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Is within the medical field.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
If you work at the CDC, if you work at
the NIH, if you work at you know, the World organization.
Cochrane study is the gold standard. Okay, this is supposed
to be the best data analysis you get in the
medical field. The Cochrane study says masks have zero, zero
discernible benefit based on the numbers. So what does Fauci say?
(15:17):
There are other studies play it.
Speaker 7 (15:19):
Some of the studies that they're confusing. The study that
recently has been now quoted a lot and causing a
lot of confusion is this Cochrane study, which even the
people who run the Corcran studies say that that study
can be misleading because people have commented on that study
saying absolutely masks don't work, which is absolutely not the case,
because there are a number of studies that show that
(15:41):
masks actually do work. And there's a lot of confusion
when you take a series of studies and you look
at them in a meta analysis.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
Only a couple of those studies.
Speaker 7 (15:50):
Who are specifically looking at COVID. So I think we
better be careful that that study that people keep talking
about can be very, very misleading. There's a lot of
good data that mass work.
Speaker 4 (16:01):
This is a BS magic show he's trying to pull here, Clay.
The numbers are clear that there could be some other
numbers that aren't included. Is always true of anything, but
I mean masking is the foundational sacrament of Fauciism. He's
never gonna, never gonna walk away from it.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
The way to bring this home, I think for a
lot of people is the idea of the Cochrane study
is we look at all of these studies combined and
then weight them totally so that any one individual study
is not used as the one size fits all method.
In other words, if you're out there and you invest,
and you invest like I do, you buy s and
P five hundred stocks for instance, any one of those
(16:41):
five hundred stocks may be up massively or down massively
on a day to day basis, but the overall weighted
average of the five hundred moves in concert, that is
the market. What Fauci is saying is, oh, there's individual
It's like if there's a bull or bear market. Right
for everybody out there listening, bull market things are going up,
bear market things are going down. What Fauci is saying is, oh,
(17:02):
the market might have one direction or the other, but
there are individual stocks that are doing well. And so
that means that you have to look at the individual stocks,
not the market as a whole. Well, no, that's the
exact opposite of what we should be doing. We should
be looking at the totality of information, not one small
segment of it. He's a liar, and a part of
(17:23):
me wonders buck to what extent he did? You see
the Fauci is a liar. At game day, congratulations the
Alabama fans right there? Who got that sign in that
went super viral at the Alabama Texas game. I loved
it because he is a liar. That's the essence of
all of this.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
I didn't see it, but of course I'm happy to
know that my beloved Crimson Tide is flowing and doing
such a great right.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
That's the yes, yeah, yeahah, thank you.
Speaker 4 (17:49):
Well they lost this weekend tex well, right, but at
least they're holding Fauci to account.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
So yes, Roll Tide, Mike. Crimson Tide.
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Let's go ahead and have a little bit of fun
(18:59):
with this. I was watching Novak Djokovic win the US
Open last night.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
I am a big fan of Novak.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
We've talked about him on this show a lot because
he refused to get the COVID shot and Buck he
wins his twenty fourth US Open, sorry, twenty fourth major,
which is I don't know the several of you, several
of them are US Opens. But he wasn't allowed to
play in the Australian Open or the US Open because
he refused to get the COVID shot. Now he had
(19:28):
COVID a couple of times. He's obviously in.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
What ninety nine point ninety nine.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Percentile health If you saw the guy take his shirt
off and he's probably four or five percent body fat.
If that the greatest tennis player in the world of
all time, Yes, he's and the greatest tennis player of
all time thirty six years old. I believe clearly did
not need a shot for COVID. It made the choice
(19:54):
not to get it, and that meant that he was
not allowed to play in the US Open last year.
Although interestingly, but they let him play in twenty twenty one.
Then they wouldn't let him play in twenty twenty two.
Then he comes back and he wins. Maderna is spending
money like crazy? Honest question for you, Buck, and this
is a big picture question. I think that it's rare
(20:17):
that we allow drug companies to advertise as much as
they're allowed to advertise in the United States.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
Right.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
I mean, you watch any sporting event, you watch any
television program, A huge percentage of the advertising dollars that
are spent are drug company advertisements.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
Right.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
I mean I'm talking about you have to get a
prescription to get this. I'm not talking about over the
counter like tailanol or aspirin or something like that.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
We allowed drug companies. I mean for a long time before.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
Prescription thing was yeah, exactly from prescription drug companies. So
that means you can only get this by law from
a physician who says you need it, which then, of
course raises the question why do people in the general
public have to be inundated with image of things that
they're only legally allowed to get if an expert professional
says you need this thing?
Speaker 3 (21:06):
Correct?
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Because what happens is, and I guarantee you there are
lots of doctors out there listening to us right now
who are nodding along. The reason why they're advertising is
they want people to walk into a doctor's office and say, hey,
I need X or Y, and then the doctor writes it.
I mean, the branding of the drug makes the drug
(21:27):
far more popular and valuable and for all of you
out there listening, I just would ask you to think
about it. Wait a minute, If you really need medical treatment,
why would you be the one who recognizes that you
need that medical treatment and be walking in to get it.
So the reason why I bring this up is Maderna
sponsors the US Open and by the way, Maderna, I'm told,
(21:51):
also tries to buy up ads during our podcast show.
People have sent me messages and been like, hey, Clay,
Maderna Advisor are buying up ads during your your Clay
and Buck show, which is funny in and of itself.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
Yeah, hopefully we're not gonna be flying around in Pfizer
Force one anytime soon here. But you know, nonetheless, well yeah, right,
the Clay and Buck brought to you by Maderna would
be a tough sell, I think, but we don't. So
just for everybody out there, no, because I'm sure you
get some of these messages every now and then, like
you like we, Buck and I don't sell advertising on
the podcast network, right, like, we are not in charge
(22:25):
of the ads that you hear. Just FYI, well a
lot of that is programmatic as well. It's a whole
lot of conversation. But look, the drug companies do do
obviously a lot of people listening to this. No, I
mean drugs are keeping people alive. I mean the pharma companies.
It's more complicated than just.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
Big pharma is bad.
Speaker 4 (22:44):
Well, you know, if you need statins, if you need
different medications, if you need things out there, you're very
happy that we have the drug companies producing this stuff, clearly,
But when you're looking at the vaccines and what happened
with COVID, I mean, it turned into nobody was really
responsible for the decision was made for the decision that
was made to make everybody get the shot, or to
(23:05):
try to make everybody get this shot.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
Because the drug company's point.
Speaker 4 (23:08):
At the administration at that time, it was the Trump
administration and then Member Biden was the mandates, to be clear, obviously,
but then it was a Biden administration that was ramming
those shots into everyone's arms. But the drug companies say, look,
we just did what the federal government told us to
in a moment of crisis, right, so you know, that's
why they got indemnified.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
That's why they're not you can't be sued about this.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
And then the administration both of them just say we're
in a crisis, and we told the drug companies go
as fast as you can, and we thought that they
knew what they were doing. You know, It's a little
bit like if you got a big tax problem, you go,
it wasn't my fault, that was my accountant in your
accountant goes ah.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
I just used the numbers he gave me. I don't
know any better.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
Like that's kind of the situation we're all in here
with the COVID vackshot in terms of accountability, And I mean,
I wonder, what do you think the numbers are going
to be for a Mayrior fans who get another round
now of that of COVID.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
Vaccine, what do you think?
Speaker 2 (24:05):
According Marty McCarey, who came on with us and wrote
this in the Wall Street Journal, I think only twenty
percent of Americans got the most recent round of COVID booster.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
Do you think it'll be less than that? Yes?
Speaker 2 (24:19):
So?
Speaker 3 (24:19):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (24:20):
Isn't that interesting that it effectively tracks political ideology? Because
if you ask me how many people in this country
are a hard left climate change, you know, all that stuff,
I would say it's about twenty percent of the country.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
That is just completely.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
You know, women can have male genitals like they don't
believe anything, and they'll go along with anything that the
authoritarian left demands.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
It's about the same as what you're seeing with the
COVID shot at this point. Yeah, it's about the same.
I think.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
I think there's a huge crossover, is my point. Oh yeah,
I think you're one hundred percent right. I think even
those people are starting to dwindle, so I think it
fits at twenty percent most recently. Now, what they're trying
to do, and I'm not an expert in this, but
I think they're trying to sink the flush with the
COVID shot, right, isn't that the new goal? So you
can have your yearly flu shot in your yearly COVID
(25:07):
shot and they're somehow intertwined. I think that's what they're
trying to do. I don't know what the latest is. Yeah,
the best model they can get. And this is true, Nay,
who's starting a business or whatever, This is always important.
You want subscription if you can.
Speaker 4 (25:20):
Yeah, it's basically because your cost per acquisition is very high.
So if you can get a subscriber who's getting the
product every month. Now, this also if you want the product.
That's great because you're getting delivered every month or on
the schedule you need, and so it's a win win
for everybody. But from the perspective of the covid vaccine manufacturers,
they've got to slip in the updated covid vaccine with
(25:45):
the flu shot so that they increase the perceived value
proposition so that it becomes a normalized and repeated part
of standard healthcare. You just get this shot every year,
and they don't have to get huge capacity or rather
huge adoption of this across the country for it to
still be a very successful business model for them, right right,
(26:06):
because they're just kind of updating the formula year in
and year out. So yeah, I mean you can see
exactly what they're doing. I mean, I'll never forget reading
about I think it was moderna specifically, people who all
these executives who during the pandemic were buying like ten
million dollars townhouses in Boston and in the Hamptons, and
it was just a total total spending spree because they
(26:29):
knew that was as good as it was going to
get with your tax dollars. And they're also spending because
they got guaranteed tax dollars from you and me and
everybody out there for COVID shots that didn't work and
to a large extent, were worthless, you know, two or
three months after they went into everybody's arms. So they're
sponsoring a US Open, and Novak Djokovic famously said, screw
(26:51):
you to the idea that you should have to get
the COVID shot.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
This is what aired. I swear you couldn't even make
this up. This is what aired on ESPN. And right
after Novak Djokovic won, they have a segment called the
Maderna Shot of the Day that is honoring Novak Djokovic,
the only guy who didn't get the shot winning the
US Open.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
Listen to this audience, Well.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
It'll take you to the Madernist Shot of the day
and it was.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
Saving the point, that's point to get to number twenty four.
There were a lot of shots that were highly impactful.
I mean, that's amazing. It's amazing, isn't it. Were you
watching that? Did you see that happen in real time?
Speaker 6 (27:32):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (27:32):
I did, Yes, it's amazing. There was like this wasn't
is that real? I was like, oh, well, let's a
rewind that make sure. I'm pretty sure we just heard
the Maderna's shot of the day, the championship shot from
Novak Djokovic. The only thing that could have been better
is if you had said, I'd like to thank Maderna
for their worthless shot keeping me out, Like I mean,
that would.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
Have been amazing in the in the thank you speech.
Speaker 4 (27:52):
Well, you have to also, uh, if you go back
and you listen to what the commentators were saying.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
You know, it's like Macenroe and Brad Gilbert and a
couple of others.
Speaker 4 (28:03):
If you listen to them, they make reference to Novak
not in the tournament last year. But no one ever,
no one ever, you think they're commentators, right, no one
ever says, well that was moronic.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
Yeah they kept him out.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
Why, Like, there's no it's just kind of like, yeah,
he just missed it, you know, it's like he took
a sick day. But no, actually it was a very
clear bind administration decision. And look there at some level
too that the leftist democrat mechanistic ideology of control in
their control freaks. I mean, they just want to be
(28:38):
in charge of people and when you and everything that
you're doing, and if you push back against that. They
think that you are a threat to the established order,
or rather the order that they are trying to establish.
And that's that's the whole thing. You're not allowed to
non comply. And Novak non complied, and now he's got
twenty four championships.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Yeah, and then he wore the Kobe Bryant because Kobe
Bryant wore twenty four for the Lakers out there. I
actually when I was watching that and I turned to
my wife because we were watching this together. When he won,
I said, I bet, if Kobe Bryant this is a prediction. Obviously,
we don't know, because Kobe died tragically like a couple
of weeks before the whole COVID craziness started in the
helicopter crash in LA. I think Kobe, being as good
(29:22):
a friends with Novak as he was, and as willing
to challenge conventional authority, I think if he were still
in alive, I think he might have been another one
of those athletes, along with Aaron Rodgers, Kyrie, Irving, Novak, Djokovic,
who was willing to challenge conventional wisdom and smart enough
(29:42):
to have looked at all the data and said, yeah,
this doesn't add up right. It takes somebody who is
a rare thinker to be willing to stand up in
that situation.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
And very rich and have the ability to maneuver around
the You know, this is the thing. There were people
who were able to avoid getting the shot because it
was feasible for them.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
They are other people who it was.
Speaker 4 (30:02):
You know, if you're a nurse, you're working at a
hospital in New York, it was get the shot or
lose your job. Now, some lost their jobs, and some
people in the military, as we know think about we
haven't even had a full accounting of all of that.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
No people lost their jobs over this, lost their jobs
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Speaker 4 (31:30):
It's going to dive into politics here in a moment,
but this is both political and COVID related to nature,
or at least the willingness to question some of what
went on there. RFK Junior we had him on the
show numerous times, and there are a lot of people
who were calling in at one point or at least,
(31:51):
we were getting a fair number of callers who fervently
believed that we should take a look at RFK Junior.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
I was highly skeptical. And he's still in the race. Here.
Speaker 4 (32:01):
He is telling everybody that he thinks he's not getting
a fair he's not getting a fair shake from the media.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
That much I think is certainly true. Play it.
Speaker 6 (32:09):
My polling numbers are better than ron De Santis and
or any other candidate except for Biden Trump. But I'm
you know, even when they talk about me on the
on the d NC channels, on CNN and ms NBC,
they always refer to me. My first name is long
shot candidate. I'm not allowed on CNN or MSNBC at all,
(32:31):
and all of the Republican candidates I can go on there.
Jake Tapper has said publicly that he will not do
a town hall for me, even though he's done them
with Nikki Hally and with Ronda Santis.
Speaker 4 (32:42):
It's syal now, Clay RFK Junior, You've you saw early
on that you've you've had some I mean, I agree
with him on COVID. I just think that him running
against the Democrat as a Democrat is a waste of everybody's.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
Time because it's not going to happen.
Speaker 4 (32:56):
But he's down sixty points in the latest polling, so
it's more than anyone is even behind Trump on the
Republican side. He is complaining, however, about his treatment in
the media. I feel like he should be expecting this.
What do you think about? All this is is the
RFK moment as a Democrat, which I have to pick.
I had to keep reminding everybody, no Democrats that I
knew we're talking about this guy.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
Is it passed or is it gonna come up again?
Speaker 4 (33:19):
Now that the numbers on Biden's age and infirmity and
the speech he gave over the weekend, you know what
I mean?
Speaker 3 (33:25):
Is it done or are we in the early stages.
It's a good question.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
I think he's one hundred percent right that the fix
is in, and it's a great point that he's making.
Like all of the Republicans running are getting town halls
on CNN.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
I've seen a lot.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
Of the Republicans who were willing to go on MSNBC.
I've certainly seen RFK Junior on Fox News a bunch.
I think we've had him on once on this show.
I can't remember it was once or twice. I think
him on this show, okay, a couple times, and uh,
I think we be willing to have him on again.
The fix is in now. The question I think Buck
(34:02):
that is interesting about this is does he get upset
enough that he contemplates running as a third party?
Speaker 3 (34:11):
And that gets very interesting?
Speaker 2 (34:14):
And what is the impact of an RFK junior on
a third party race if if he draws fifteen or
twenty percent, that might otherwise vote for Biden. So I mean,
I'll tell you, I think that's interesting.
Speaker 4 (34:30):
I think the history of third party candidates is essentially
a candidate who will give the eventual Democrat or Republican
loser an excuse for why they lost. Because to this day,
people still argue over over Ross Perrot, who did he count,
who did he take more votes from?
Speaker 2 (34:49):
I know there's analysis jill Stein and the Libertarians to
what they did to Trump in twenty because that's the
difference in Trump winning or not in twenty If the Libertarians, folks,
if Jill, if Jill Stein doesn't run, I'm pretty sure
it certainly is a lot closer for Hillary and Hillary
actually Hillary would have won. So for all the like,
oh my gosh, the Trump, you know, magic and it
(35:09):
was magical, was amazing.
Speaker 4 (35:10):
I'm not saying it wasn't a great moment. In twenty sixteen,
I was actually in happiness shock for a day. I
was like, what, let's walking around New York City in
the Flatiron District where I lived at the time, and
Clay it was like it and the honestly, the only
thing it reminded me of because I was in college
during nine to eleven. Obviously, today's are remembrance of nine eleven.
We'll talk more about that with Frank Ziller Tunnel the towers
(35:31):
in the next hour. But it really reminded me of
the aftermath of Hurricane Sandy, because people were walking around
in this daze. They weren't really you know, after nine
eleven people were terrified. It was a whole other level, right,
But after Sandy, most people I saw walking on the
streets a lot of mid lost power. They and they
were just sort of confused and trying to find a
place and where to go, and they couldn't use the
(35:52):
elevators and you know, to get up to the fortieth
story where they live and all this kind of stuff.
When Trump won in twenty sixteen, that that's what it
was like in Manhattan walking around.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
People were just total shock.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
Yeah, yeah, and look, we'll see because I still feel
like twenty twenty four, if it's Trump Biden is going
to be so close that on the margins, you know
what the No Labels Party decides to do.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
Does Robert F.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
Kennedy Junior get so frustrated at the way that he's
being blocked by the DNC that he decides he wants
to run as a third party? Does Trump flirt with
RFK Junior? Could you see Buck just tossing it out there?
Could you see a world where RFK Junior says Trump
is the better candidate than Joe Biden?
Speaker 3 (36:36):
Just I don't think it out there. I don't think so.
Speaker 4 (36:39):
But if the Democrats continue to give him the stiff
arm and not let him get a fair say, he
may decide, you know, he's just gonna take the DNC
and take a sledgehammer to it.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
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United States of Kennedy is a podcast about our cultural fascination with the Kennedy dynasty. Every week, hosts Lyra Smith and George Civeris go into one aspect of the Kennedy story.
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