September 16, 2023 • 36 mins
Texas Governor Greg Abbott joins Clay and Buck to discuss his battle with the Biden administration over securing the border and to unload on NYC Mayor Eric Adams' complaints about illegals sent from Texas. Fetterman mocks Biden impeachment. Democrat candidate for Virginia General Assembly posted sex videos with her husband on porn site. C&B take a call on normalization of porn.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and buck
Sexton Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show, Hour number two,
Tuesday edition. We're headed down to the great state of
Texas right now, and we are joined by the governor
of that state, Greg Abbott. And I understand last year
at about this time, buck Sexton myself we met and
shook hands talked with the governor in the governor's mansion
(00:26):
as the Alabama Texas game was about to take place
in Austin. Tough loss for the Longhorns there, but I understand, Governor,
you were on the field for the big win by
the Texas Longhorns over Alabama on Saturday.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
What was that experience?
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Like?
Speaker 4 (00:44):
It was unparalleled. It was just remarkable. Listen, that Alabama
Stadium is very loud, and it's a daunting place for
players to go into and play. And you know, this
game this year lack last year, was a nip and tuck,
back and forth, close game. It's just exciting football with
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two great college football titans and going after each other. Obviously,
as a Longhorn myself, I was pleased to see Texas
come out on top of this one, but it's just
kind of what college football is all about and what
sports is all about. It was a tremendous atmosphere and
a great victory for the Longhorse.
Speaker 5 (01:24):
Governor Rabbit, thanks so much for being here. While I
do enjoy college football, I also want to ask you
about what's going on with the border, which affects your
state as much, if not more, than any other state
out there. New York City's Mayor Eric Adams seems to
be blaming you for the problems of New York City
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when it comes to what's called the migrant crisis. I
just wanted to ask you before we can talk about
the barrier and the Rio Grande and all the rest.
What's your response to the mayor of New York City
saying that his migrant problems in his town are your fault.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
The truth of the matter is the migrant problems they're
having in New York and Chicago and LA and DC, etc.
They're all the faults of Joe Biden. Remember this. Just
four years ago, we had the lowest number of illegal
crossings in four decades, and that was because of the
policies put in place by President Trump. Under Joe Biden.
(02:20):
We have an all time record number of people coming
across the border illegally because Biden has abandoned the policies
put in place by Trump, and Biden has implemented open
border policies. Open border policies affect not just the state
of Texas. Every state in the United States is now
a border state, and for no other reason, because of
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the fencinel that is pouring across the border. And also
because you have these sanctuary cities like New York, where
they have self declared that they will accept into anybody
of any background, from wherever they may come from, and
they will take care of them. You know, is typical
liberalism when they put out these talking points in these
position papers whatever, saying that, oh, yeah, we're gonna have
(03:05):
a sanctuary city here, and it's big talk until they
actually have to put up with it. And it just
astonishes me to hear Mayor Adams because New York has
dealt with a tiny fraction of what Texas has dealt with,
and it just shows that Mayor Adams, he would not
be able to make it a week in the state
of Texas.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
So we're talking to Texas Governor Greg Abbott, and you
just laid out. Everybody responding to what's going on now.
New York City, Chicago, Washington, d C, LA, other places
are seeing what Texas is dealing with. I saw the
most recent numbers over seventy two hundred people coming across
the border. What is in the last twenty four hours?
(03:45):
That was Bill Malugin's number that I saw him tweet
out early this morning. What is your response directly to
Joe Biden when you hear that he may be trying
to put in place a remain in Texas policy as
opposed to a remain in Mexico policy. Legitimately, he wants
to try to force the state of Texas, it sounds like,
(04:06):
potentially to handle all of this and not allow anyone
to leave the state.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
Well, there's multiple levels of response to that. First of all,
it shows the idiocy of the Biden administration where they
want to hold people in Texas remain in Texas as
opposed to the Trump administration policy which remain in Mexico,
which is the correct position to take. And so what
Biden needs to do is recalibrate and make sure that
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he imposes remain in Mexico. It is the remain in
Mexico policy. That was a leading reason why under President
Trump we were able to have such a low number
of people crossing the border illegally. Second, and that is
that if the Biden administration dares to go down this pathway,
the legal process here has already been tried, and that
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is that it is completely unconstitutional, completely illegal for Biden
to even attempt this. All that said, in addition to
us fighting back in we will win legally, we will
do two other things. One is, we will increase the
bussing of migrants even more because we're not going to
have those people staying in Texas because we don't have
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the ability. You know, if you think of New York
City with its size and population, they cannot handle these
What about Del Rio and Ingle Pass and the other
small towns along the border, They are incapable of dealing
with this large influx coming in. That said, the last
thing I'll say that we will do, and that is
we will escalate even more what we're doing by using
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our National Guard to build these border barriers where y'all
have seen on TV. We are repelling migrants who are
attempting to come across the border, and that's because of
the National Guard and the Texas Department of Public Safety
using guns and barriers to send these people back to Mexico.
And we will escalate that more to make sure that
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we are securing the state of Texas. Last point here,
and that is you said you talked about the numbers
of malution talked about. I will tell you what I
was informed of yesterday by the Texas Borders are who,
by the way, lives on the border, and he said
that California and Arizona sectors now have more people going
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into those sectors than into the Texas sectors. And that's
because of the efforts that Texas has put up to
try to sonish the flow of people coming across the
border illegally into our state.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
You've got a law degree from Vanderbilt Law School, by
the way, fabulous place to go get a law degree,
because I also happened to have one from there. And
what you just said raises so many interesting questions. And
I know you're dealing with a fifth circuit case, I
believe if I'm not mistaken right now, But what happens
if the State of Texas has a divergent border policy
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compared to the one trying to be put in place
by the Biden administration. I'm sure you've seen that they're
opening an impeachment inquiry into Joe Biden. How is there
not a direct impeachment inquery opened for Joe Biden not
protecting the sanctity of the southern border. And what happens
in your mind as the governor of Texas when the
State of Texas is doing a better job protecting the
(07:18):
United States border than the United States border is, how
does that state federal government interplay work in your mind
as it pertains to the state of the border at Texas.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
Normally, the way that it would play out is that
state and federal governments would find some way to work
collaboratively on an effort like what we did with the
Trump administry, right. But when you have the Biden administration
just completely ignoring the laws of the United States of
America where they're supposed to detain these people who are
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coming across the border, and when there's no one at
the federal level who's compelling Joe Biden to follow the law,
Texas has to go down its own pathway. If the
Bidy administration is going to abandon the rule of wal
Texas has to take matters into our own hands, which
is exactly why we are, you know, putting up the
booy barriers, putting up the razor wire barriers, while we're
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doing everything we possibly can to try to repel people
from coming into the country illegally. Last thing on this
and that is, if ever there were a reason why
a president should be impeached, this is it, you know,
putting aside what happened with Bill Clinton, putting aside what
happened and Joe next, and all the kind of stuff.
What Joe Biden is doing is abandoning his fundamental authority
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as being commander in chief to protect the security of
the United States of America. There have been more people
come across the border who were on the terrorist watch
list and be apprehended than under any president in the
history of the United States. And those are the ones
that we know about, not counting the ones we do
not know about. So Joe Biden and his policies are
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causing a direct threat to national security. I consider that
to be an impeachable offense.
Speaker 5 (09:03):
Speaking a Governor Abbott of Texas, Governor, you may have
a different administration, God willing, you may have a different
administration in charge starting in about what fifteen months from now?
What would the right I mean, what is the optimum
collaboration between the State of Texas and a Republican White
(09:24):
House on the border issue, Like what would have to
change in order to truly secure the border so we
did not have the rampant lawless list, the exploitation by
the cartels, everything that we see going on.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
It's really very simple. You can do one or two things.
You all may remember about a year ago or so
when Joe Biden came to Olpaso and I handed him
the note. I met him of the airport and handed
him a note and d that note. I listed five
things that he could immediately do under existing law to
stop the inflow of people coming across the border illegally.
(10:00):
But separate from that, thank you, just go back and
use what President Trump did that led to the lowest
number of illegal border crossings in four decades. So here's
my point. It is clear and it's been proven that
a president who is committed to securing the border can
secure the border. And we expect Americans to elect a
(10:21):
president who will step up and fulfill that obligation of
the President of the United States.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Texas Governor Greg Abbott with US. I want to circle
back around on something you said. You said you potentially
accelerate the amount of buses that you were sending to
places like New York City if this influx continues and
the Biden administration continues to work against you. What would
that look like compared to what it's looked like so far.
When you talk about acceleration, we.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
Well, first the reason for it, and that is there's
just no way and there's no room on the border
for people to be you know, you know, locked up,
stocked up, whatever you want to call it in those
border towns like Eagle Pass in Del Rio. So we
have to be able to move them. And so we're
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putting together even more buses than what we have now
to make sure that we're going to be able to
move outside of the state of Texas to other parts
across the entire country, to make sure that Texas is
not going to be overrun by the reckless border policies
of Joe Biden.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Texas Governor Greg Abbott, we appreciate the time congratulations to
Longhorns everywhere on the big win over Alabama and good
luck against Wyoming.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
This weekend.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
By the way, are you excited as the governor for
Texas and Texas A and M to be playing again
starting next year?
Speaker 4 (11:43):
So something that I placed early on in my administration
that I would reunite the Texas, Texas A and M
football rivalry and it's going to happen next year.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Awesome, appreciate it, sir, Thank you.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
Take care.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
That is Texas Governor Greg Abbott, Raggies and Longhorns united there. Actually,
I think pretty excited about that game next year. Since
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Speaker 1 (13:05):
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Speaker 5 (13:11):
He is a man of precise words. John Fetterman, he
is a Senator from Pennsylvania, and sure enough he was asked,
I think this is by town Hall media. He was
asked about the impeachment. Have you seen this yet, Clay
or I always liked like the Spring Yet.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
No, I'm reacting in real time. Whatever you play, Fetterman,
it means not exactly.
Speaker 5 (13:39):
The funeral oration of Pericles during the Peloponnesian War. He did, however,
weigh in on the impeachment inquiry into Joe Biden and
this is what he said.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Ask you about this news that Speaker McCarthy has formally
launched an impeachment and has said he's going, oh my.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Gosh, you know, oh, it's devastating.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Don't do it, Please, don't do it. Oh no, no.
Speaker 5 (14:08):
No, Now, first, I mean, you get it said he's
he's he's completely ridiculing the whole thing. What if Democrats
start to go in this direction. What if they decide,
Now I'm not saying that Fetterman is some strategic genius
here or anything.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
I'm not saying he's a genius. That's that's for sure.
Speaker 5 (14:26):
But what if they just decide that they're gonna they're
gonna mock and undermine the whole process while they're simultaneously
doing lawfare against Trump. It just hadn't occurred to me.
I think it's an interesting, uh approach. You know, because
Pelosi when she did I think it was the second
impeachment of Trump.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Clay she was, you know, abs upset.
Speaker 5 (14:43):
That saddens my heart. You know, she did the whole
and no one, no one actually believed her, but she
did the whole like this is a grave moment. And
then Clay doesn't realize I can be Nancy Pelosi too,
But uh, Fetterman saying that this is like a joke
and silly and dumb. Do you you think some Democrats
may take that approach to this to try to make
(15:03):
it because it's interesting to me, it's the opposite of that.
This is actually an entirely legitimate impeachment inquiry. This is
what impeachment is made for, high crimes and misdemeanors like
taking bribes.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
That's crazily the most eloquent I've heard from the Fetterman
in like in like a year. So the bar is
obviously set very low for John Fetterman in terms of
being able to speak in public in any way. I
had not heard that he also, now Fetterman has gotten
a makeover. He looks like a nineteen eighties porn star now,
(15:38):
which I don't know if that'll help or hurt his
political leanings in Pennsylvania, but I think it's very hard.
So let's begin with this analysis right in terms of
how Democrats are going to respond. The Democrat base is
going to see this as illegitimate.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Will they ridicule it? That's really what this is. I
don't think they'll do that.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
I don't think that the left has a sense of humor.
So what I mean by that is, when's the last
time that somebody on the left Dogmatism is the opposite
of humor.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Propaganda is the opposite of humor.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
It's very hard when you believe that you are everything
that's good in the world and your opponents are everything
that's evil. It's very hard to have a sense of humor.
I used to ask this question, Buck, and you actually
interacted more with the terrorists back in the day than
I ever did. Do you think a lot of Muslim
fundamentalists are funny? Like if you were hanging around in
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a terror camp, like, are there funny terrorists?
Speaker 5 (16:42):
Like would you be like? Did not make a lot
of did not make a lot of jokes.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Like Osama bin Lauden. Doesn't seem to me like a
guy who's got a great sense of humor, right, And
and my point on this is.
Speaker 5 (16:52):
The radicals did have a lot of pornography on their
computers and their phones and stuff.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
As an aside, but that's a whole other conversation.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
But humor typically requires nuance, and it requires the ability
to be self reflective. It's the opposite of absolutism in general.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
And so when you.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Ask that question, my immediate response is Democrats have convinced
themselves that they are the moral paragons of virtue, and
so I don't think they can respond with humor. I
think that they are likely to respond by saying, oh,
this is a complete affront to American democracy.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
But ridicule is not.
Speaker 5 (17:30):
It's not necessarily funny. Right to ridicule something is not
necessarily to try to make people laugh with it.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
They may just say this is this is preposterous, right.
Speaker 5 (17:41):
They may get indignant and huffy about how silly these
proceedings are. Yeah, well that's that I'm trying to find
it out on the merits.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
I'm just saying, I think that this will be such
a good test of how much commitment there actually is
to Joe Biden, because there's going to be a lot
of body blows being landed, and many of them, I
think are going to resonate because there's a lot of credible,
legitimate under oath allegations of impropriety against Joe Biden. My
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the front lines of truth. We got a crazy story
out of Virginia. I know politics can have crazy stories.
This is a legitimately crazy story. So let me give
you the background of why this is a potentially blockbuster
story in the state of Virginia. First all, we talked
what Monday about the right decision that Glenn Youngkin had
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made to provide a pardon to the father who showed
up at the Louden County school Board, if I remember correctly,
and said his daughter had been sexually assaulted by a
boy who was dressed up as a girl and went
into the girl's bathroom, and that turned into a huge story.
It was a big part of the twenty twenty one election.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
They charged to him.
Speaker 5 (19:40):
They charged that dad with assault because he was unruly
at the school board meeting and the prosecutor was really
trying to get him.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Yes, so here is a crazy story that's going on.
So we had Glenn Youngkin on the program what like
a couple of months ago. Glenn Youngkin is trying to
flip the House of Delegates in virgin I believe somebody
can correct me on this, staff look it up. The
Senate I think has a small Republican majority, and I
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think they're trying to flip the House either way. I
know the House is not Andy have a small Democrat majority,
and there's basically seven seats that are in dispute that
are battleground districts. One of the battleground districts is a
woman named and again this is I'm reading this is everywhere. Okay,
(20:30):
this is not just you know, me going into the
into the scandal rags. I'm reading the New York Times,
major story on Washington Post.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
It's everywhere.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
A Democrat candidate for the Virginia General Assembly in a
crucial race, according to The New York Times. On Monday,
the AP and the Washington Post reported that she and
her husband had been live streaming sex acts through a
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web site called Chatterbait, where she was a hot wife
experience was her name, and if you paid them, she
and her husband they would engage in sex acts on
camera for you. Buck off air. I was saying, I
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don't know how anybody found out about this, because somebody
was watching a lot of different porn and they were like, hey,
this looks like the woman who's right for the Virginia
General Assembly. I have so many questions about this on
so many different levels. One, if you were making sex
tapes with your husband on a website called Chatterbait, did
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you really think that this was not going to go
public if you decided to run for office. I mean
there's all these stories about OnlyFans models who are like moms,
and then the.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
PTA finds out.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
I mean, like, if you make porn videos just an
idea or the public it's going to get out. There
are very many people who are like, yeah, you know,
I used to be in porn. Nobody found out, and
I do if you do porn, like it's gonna get out.
But the crazy thing about this Buck is she's trying
to make herself the victim here, and I just take it.
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Outside of Buck, the fact that she's involved in porn
acts with her husband for money, which I would imagine
most people don't do. But if that's your thing, whatever,
I'm very confident that most people who are in politics
don't do this. But they went after Glenn Youngkin for
wearing like a sweater vest and being involved with the
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Carlisle group. His job is a huge part of why
he was attacked. They said, you know, he's he's a
corporate raider. He's totally untrustworthy. And now this woman is
saying that she's a victim, and she says the FBI
needs to investigate, and the whole thing is very strange.
Speaker 5 (23:00):
Here's the claim for a lawyer for miss Gibson. This
is from The New York Times said it was unlawful
in the state to record someone in a state of
undress and distribute it to a third party. Without that
person's consent. But if you record yourself in a state
of undress and post that in a public forum, even
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if you have to pay for that public forum, is
then the distribution of that under that statute? You see,
you know what I mean that. I don't understand how that? Uh,
how that?
Speaker 1 (23:34):
I don't know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
It could be it could be a copyright infringement. Yeah,
I could see that. And again this is me putting
my lawyer hat on here. And let me be clear,
I'm not an expert on chatterbay dot com.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Maybe some of you are, uh.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
But uh, I don't know exactly how this website is constructed.
The way that they may be making this argument is
that this was like like a private sex act that
only one person is able to see. I don't know
how this thing is designed, and therefore you are not
able to make a copy of it and then disseminate,
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which is an interesting word, of course, disseminate that copy
as a result.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
But the bigger picture here is.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
She ran as one of the democrats top candidates despite
recently being a sex act performer on the internet, and
she's trying to argue that it's unfair that this would
come out.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
I mean that seems to be fair.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Look if she were twenty or eighteen and she was
in college and she was like, you know, working at
Hooters or a you know, like a boob bar or
something like that, I'd be like, well, that was twenty
years ago. People change. It probably still is a story,
but it's a lot different than Hey, my husband and
I did sex tapes for paying customers, and now it's
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unfair for that evidence to come out.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
And for those of you out there like this is
a crazy story.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
This might decide who has control of the Virginia House.
And there has been suggestions that if Glenn Youngkin and
the Republicans take back control of Virginia House, he might
decide to enter the presidential race. I mean, this is
so this woman's sex tapes might in some way implicate
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who winds up running for president in the Republican primary.
Speaker 5 (25:29):
It won't intimidate me, and it won't silence me, she
said in a statement. This is the woman who's running
for the state, you know, state House. My political opponents
and the Republican allies have proven they're willing to commit
a sex crime to attack me and my family because
there's no line they won't cross to silence women when
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they speak up. Wow, I just I mean, first of all,
the audacity to make yourself the victim when you and
your husband have been allegedly being paid to engage in
sex acts on camera.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
By the way, they have two kids. I think the
husband is a lawyer.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
The husband didn't say, hey, honey, you know, I understand
you've got this political itch, but you know, we did
make a lot of sex tape videos on chatterbay dot com.
Speaker 5 (26:22):
I think they may maybe we should do it. Who
found this video? You think they may actually try to
press charges? I mean, I didn't even know that this
was a statue. I mean it's I don't live in Virginia,
but I think a lot of Virginians probably don't even
know it's It's really it's a what do you call it,
like a revenge porn or what's the I think that's.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
The term that a lot of people use. But that's different, Buck,
because there's a dot.
Speaker 5 (26:45):
Like a private conduct between two people that is recorded
and then shared without consent to a third party. And
there are a lot of states that have passed laws
against that, and I think there are even criminal statutes
now against that because of how common it is.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
But if you're engaged, this is the part of it
is that this is the key part of it legally, right, Yeah, if.
Speaker 5 (27:04):
You're engaged in commercial online sexual activity, it's commerce now,
I mean this is now you're down. It's a business transaction.
Is that also protected as though it's you know, private
consenting adults?
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Well, and this is again so interesting. I mean, honestly
from a legal perspective, how this website is created, I'm
not familiar with it. If this is the equivalent of
like a private show, like people may remember, may have heard,
may have have heard that such things could occur, there
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are like lab dances, and then there are private lab dances,
or there are peep shows, and then there are private
peep shows in a digital context, is there a difference
in terms of the way that those are constructed? I
think legally that could be an interesting argument. But to
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your point, once you are engaged in the commercial selling
of sex, right, which it seems quite clear that she was,
people would pay for her and evidently she and her
husband to engage in sex acts on camera. Once you're
engaged in that, I can see a copyright claim where
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you can say, hey, uh this, you weren't allowed to
make a copy of this and then distribute it to
other people, and therefore it's a copyright violation.
Speaker 5 (28:31):
Yeah, but they're calling a study. Now they're saying it's
sex crime. Yeah, they're saying it's a sex crime and
a criminal statute has been violated by the person who
I mean and this is.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
And also Buck, I would just say, in the interests
of elections, wouldn't you want to know if you're congress
person or your House of Burgess's member or whatever it's
called in in Virginia, wouldn't you want.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
To know if that was what they had done in
their past?
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Like I would want to know, Oh, this person, they
worked as a lawyer and they worked as a UPS
delivery person and like, oh she was a sex worker,
well okay recently. Like that seems like something that would
be hard. Got to be careful with all the word
choices here, hard to justify in many different aspects, and
(29:25):
to make yourself the victim when you voluntarily engaged in
public at sex acts for money, I just I don't
buy it.
Speaker 5 (29:32):
Let me just put this out there. This is my
my gut instinct on this, and maybe I'm completely way off.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
He may still win. Does that seem crazy to you?
I so this is such a big topic of conversation.
I think we're moving towards the era and some of
you are going to be like, my god, Clay, you're crazy.
I think we're moving towards the era where naked photos,
sex tapes, all of that stuff is so commonplace. If
(30:03):
you are right now listening to us and you are
twenty five years old, I bet sixty or seventy percent
of twenty five year olds today, at some point in
time there's a video or pictures or something that is
of a scandalous nature. Because everybody's got phones in their hands.
So I think the younger generation is desensitized in some
(30:26):
way to this. I think that it's very generational. I
think if you're listening to us right now and you're sixty,
I think you're like, my god, there's no way this
woman can be a representative.
Speaker 5 (30:36):
I just I was just thinking in terms of the
narrative that she's a victim, and if under state law
there is some interpretation of that that a crime has
been committed here, then it's she's a victim, and I'm
just saying it doesn't seem to me like this is
necessarily I wouldn't bet money on this, but it doesn't
seem to me like this is necessarily the end of
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this woman's aspirations to represent the state of of Virginia.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
Here's an easy answer, right, So you not crazy? You
agree that's not crazy. No, I don't know what the
district looks like. I don't know what percentage is a
Republican versus Democrat. Buck they elected Fetterman. If I had
to say, like, would you rather you mean Jenny, I
just mean the district in general, like Democrats elected Fetterman.
If you told me right now, hey, you have an option.
(31:22):
It's a woman who did sex acts with her husband,
but her brain works and she can actually answer questions
and represent the state of Pennsylvania or John Fetterman. And
I had to choose between the two, I would pick
that woman if Fetterman's not disqualifying, and heck, if Joe
Biden's not disqualifying. If the woman believes the right things
(31:43):
in terms of Democrat orthodoxy, I think a lot of
people will show up.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
And vote for it no matter what.
Speaker 5 (31:49):
Eight hundred two two eight eight two Any of you
in Virginia who have some insight on this race or
the situation, the politics of the situation.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Please you're sorry. Sorry.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
Phones that lit up everybody's got opinions on chatterbay dot com.
You work expects the phone, the phonet, that the phone
screening is going to be at a different level for
this to use.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
I wanted to talk about guns in New Mexico. Claim
wanted to do this one. I'm just kidding.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
That story is fascinating and it is interesting, and it's
everywhere right now.
Speaker 5 (32:20):
But also when you are getting this phase where when
the interpretation of law truly requires someone to be a lawyer,
and even lawyers might be able to differ on a
criminal statute and its applications, Like, there's something going on
here with with the complexities of the statutes that.
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Speaker 5 (33:37):
Welcome back, tem thanks for being here with us. We're
going to be in the next hour talking to you
about this thirty day gunban in New Mexico, well really
just in Santa Fe. I believe that Governor Luhan Grisham
has tried and I think is getting enormous pushback on
We also have a info Wars host who just got
(34:03):
sixty days in federal prison for being present in a
restricted area on January sixth, not inside the Capitol building,
on the grounds, the general grounds of the capitol. So
I guess I mean, effectively, Clay, it must have been
that he went past the police do not cross line.
(34:23):
You didn't go in a building, didn't attack anyone, didn't
destroy any property. There are no allegations that he did
those things. Six days, sixty days in prison, Yeah, I
mean that's I got. I mean the maximum was a year,
but still sixty days in prison. A first time offender,
first time entirely non violent offender. Well, we'll get into
some of that.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (34:42):
Mark from Montana wants to weigh in on the mess
in the situation that has played out that we're just
talking about a second ago.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
What's going on? Mark?
Speaker 3 (34:53):
Yeah, Hi, thanks for taking my call. What I was
going to tell you, so maybe a couple of months ago,
I was that we have a little hot springs here.
I was in the hot springs and there was three
twenty somethings, like twenty twenty one year old women.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
I've heard stories like this before. By the way, I
don't know where it's going okay.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
No, No, I was.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
A fireman and I just showed up and yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
Sorry, continue, No, it wasn't it wasn't anything Devia. But
they were all sitting around the pools, three of them,
and they were discussing their experiences on Only Fans.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
They were all three You were to hot tub with
three OnlyFans models?
Speaker 3 (35:35):
Well, no, well I was at a hot springs pool
with so it was like, you know, like, wait.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
Let his story.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
I'm sorry, I'm just I'm trying to get a better paid,
a better mental picture here.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
Yeah, there were other people around.
Speaker 4 (35:49):
It was a public pool.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
I just happened to be in there and there was
three yeah, OnlyFans models, And I'll be honest with you,
one of them really wasn't all that attractive. But they
were all sitting around talking about their experiences on OnlyFans,
and so I just kind of overheard him and I started.
I had a conversation with him about it. And one
thing I realized, because one had made of all the
(36:12):
funny things, had made a lot of money off of
her feet, but there were but the other two. They
all talked about how much money they may None of
them made a whole lot of money. But I realized
having this conversation with them, how comfortable that generation, like
the twenty young twenty somethings, the nineteen year olds really
(36:34):
are with.
Speaker 5 (36:37):
Yeah, this stuff has been normalized. Mark from Monteta, Thanks
thanks for calling in. Here's a totally PG story, mister
Claike Travis, totally. I just thought it was gonna be
a plumber, He's gonna be a fireman.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
Foot fetish pictures like all this stuff is just crazy
to me, but evidently there's lots of money in it.
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and buck
Sexton Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show, Hour number two,
Tuesday edition. We're headed down to the great state of
Texas right now, and we are joined by the governor
of that state, Greg Abbott. And I understand last year
at about this time, buck Sexton myself we met and
shook hands talked with the governor in the governor's mansion
(00:26):
as the Alabama Texas game was about to take place
in Austin. Tough loss for the Longhorns there, but I understand, Governor,
you were on the field for the big win by
the Texas Longhorns over Alabama on Saturday.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
What was that experience?
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Like?
Speaker 4 (00:44):
It was unparalleled. It was just remarkable. Listen, that Alabama
Stadium is very loud, and it's a daunting place for
players to go into and play. And you know, this
game this year lack last year, was a nip and tuck,
back and forth, close game. It's just exciting football with
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two great college football titans and going after each other. Obviously,
as a Longhorn myself, I was pleased to see Texas
come out on top of this one, but it's just
kind of what college football is all about and what
sports is all about. It was a tremendous atmosphere and
a great victory for the Longhorse.
Speaker 5 (01:24):
Governor Rabbit, thanks so much for being here. While I
do enjoy college football, I also want to ask you
about what's going on with the border, which affects your
state as much, if not more, than any other state
out there. New York City's Mayor Eric Adams seems to
be blaming you for the problems of New York City
(01:44):
when it comes to what's called the migrant crisis. I
just wanted to ask you before we can talk about
the barrier and the Rio Grande and all the rest.
What's your response to the mayor of New York City
saying that his migrant problems in his town are your fault.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
The truth of the matter is the migrant problems they're
having in New York and Chicago and LA and DC, etc.
They're all the faults of Joe Biden. Remember this. Just
four years ago, we had the lowest number of illegal
crossings in four decades, and that was because of the
policies put in place by President Trump. Under Joe Biden.
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We have an all time record number of people coming
across the border illegally because Biden has abandoned the policies
put in place by Trump, and Biden has implemented open
border policies. Open border policies affect not just the state
of Texas. Every state in the United States is now
a border state, and for no other reason, because of
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the fencinel that is pouring across the border. And also
because you have these sanctuary cities like New York, where
they have self declared that they will accept into anybody
of any background, from wherever they may come from, and
they will take care of them. You know, is typical
liberalism when they put out these talking points in these
position papers whatever, saying that, oh, yeah, we're gonna have
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a sanctuary city here, and it's big talk until they
actually have to put up with it. And it just
astonishes me to hear Mayor Adams because New York has
dealt with a tiny fraction of what Texas has dealt with,
and it just shows that Mayor Adams, he would not
be able to make it a week in the state
of Texas.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
So we're talking to Texas Governor Greg Abbott, and you
just laid out. Everybody responding to what's going on now.
New York City, Chicago, Washington, d C, LA, other places
are seeing what Texas is dealing with. I saw the
most recent numbers over seventy two hundred people coming across
the border. What is in the last twenty four hours?
(03:45):
That was Bill Malugin's number that I saw him tweet
out early this morning. What is your response directly to
Joe Biden when you hear that he may be trying
to put in place a remain in Texas policy as
opposed to a remain in Mexico policy. Legitimately, he wants
to try to force the state of Texas, it sounds like,
(04:06):
potentially to handle all of this and not allow anyone
to leave the state.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
Well, there's multiple levels of response to that. First of all,
it shows the idiocy of the Biden administration where they
want to hold people in Texas remain in Texas as
opposed to the Trump administration policy which remain in Mexico,
which is the correct position to take. And so what
Biden needs to do is recalibrate and make sure that
(04:34):
he imposes remain in Mexico. It is the remain in
Mexico policy. That was a leading reason why under President
Trump we were able to have such a low number
of people crossing the border illegally. Second, and that is
that if the Biden administration dares to go down this pathway,
the legal process here has already been tried, and that
(04:57):
is that it is completely unconstitutional, completely illegal for Biden
to even attempt this. All that said, in addition to
us fighting back in we will win legally, we will
do two other things. One is, we will increase the
bussing of migrants even more because we're not going to
have those people staying in Texas because we don't have
(05:19):
the ability. You know, if you think of New York
City with its size and population, they cannot handle these
What about Del Rio and Ingle Pass and the other
small towns along the border, They are incapable of dealing
with this large influx coming in. That said, the last
thing I'll say that we will do, and that is
we will escalate even more what we're doing by using
(05:39):
our National Guard to build these border barriers where y'all
have seen on TV. We are repelling migrants who are
attempting to come across the border, and that's because of
the National Guard and the Texas Department of Public Safety
using guns and barriers to send these people back to Mexico.
And we will escalate that more to make sure that
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we are securing the state of Texas. Last point here,
and that is you said you talked about the numbers
of malution talked about. I will tell you what I
was informed of yesterday by the Texas Borders are who,
by the way, lives on the border, and he said
that California and Arizona sectors now have more people going
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into those sectors than into the Texas sectors. And that's
because of the efforts that Texas has put up to
try to sonish the flow of people coming across the
border illegally into our state.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
You've got a law degree from Vanderbilt Law School, by
the way, fabulous place to go get a law degree,
because I also happened to have one from there. And
what you just said raises so many interesting questions. And
I know you're dealing with a fifth circuit case, I
believe if I'm not mistaken right now, But what happens
if the State of Texas has a divergent border policy
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compared to the one trying to be put in place
by the Biden administration. I'm sure you've seen that they're
opening an impeachment inquiry into Joe Biden. How is there
not a direct impeachment inquery opened for Joe Biden not
protecting the sanctity of the southern border. And what happens
in your mind as the governor of Texas when the
State of Texas is doing a better job protecting the
(07:18):
United States border than the United States border is, how
does that state federal government interplay work in your mind
as it pertains to the state of the border at Texas.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
Normally, the way that it would play out is that
state and federal governments would find some way to work
collaboratively on an effort like what we did with the
Trump administry, right. But when you have the Biden administration
just completely ignoring the laws of the United States of
America where they're supposed to detain these people who are
(07:53):
coming across the border, and when there's no one at
the federal level who's compelling Joe Biden to follow the law,
Texas has to go down its own pathway. If the
Bidy administration is going to abandon the rule of wal
Texas has to take matters into our own hands, which
is exactly why we are, you know, putting up the
booy barriers, putting up the razor wire barriers, while we're
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doing everything we possibly can to try to repel people
from coming into the country illegally. Last thing on this
and that is, if ever there were a reason why
a president should be impeached, this is it, you know,
putting aside what happened with Bill Clinton, putting aside what
happened and Joe next, and all the kind of stuff.
What Joe Biden is doing is abandoning his fundamental authority
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as being commander in chief to protect the security of
the United States of America. There have been more people
come across the border who were on the terrorist watch
list and be apprehended than under any president in the
history of the United States. And those are the ones
that we know about, not counting the ones we do
not know about. So Joe Biden and his policies are
(08:57):
causing a direct threat to national security. I consider that
to be an impeachable offense.
Speaker 5 (09:03):
Speaking a Governor Abbott of Texas, Governor, you may have
a different administration, God willing, you may have a different
administration in charge starting in about what fifteen months from now?
What would the right I mean, what is the optimum
collaboration between the State of Texas and a Republican White
(09:24):
House on the border issue, Like what would have to
change in order to truly secure the border so we
did not have the rampant lawless list, the exploitation by
the cartels, everything that we see going on.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
It's really very simple. You can do one or two things.
You all may remember about a year ago or so
when Joe Biden came to Olpaso and I handed him
the note. I met him of the airport and handed
him a note and d that note. I listed five
things that he could immediately do under existing law to
stop the inflow of people coming across the border illegally.
(10:00):
But separate from that, thank you, just go back and
use what President Trump did that led to the lowest
number of illegal border crossings in four decades. So here's
my point. It is clear and it's been proven that
a president who is committed to securing the border can
secure the border. And we expect Americans to elect a
(10:21):
president who will step up and fulfill that obligation of
the President of the United States.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Texas Governor Greg Abbott with US. I want to circle
back around on something you said. You said you potentially
accelerate the amount of buses that you were sending to
places like New York City if this influx continues and
the Biden administration continues to work against you. What would
that look like compared to what it's looked like so far.
When you talk about acceleration, we.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
Well, first the reason for it, and that is there's
just no way and there's no room on the border
for people to be you know, you know, locked up,
stocked up, whatever you want to call it in those
border towns like Eagle Pass in Del Rio. So we
have to be able to move them. And so we're
(11:11):
putting together even more buses than what we have now
to make sure that we're going to be able to
move outside of the state of Texas to other parts
across the entire country, to make sure that Texas is
not going to be overrun by the reckless border policies
of Joe Biden.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Texas Governor Greg Abbott, we appreciate the time congratulations to
Longhorns everywhere on the big win over Alabama and good
luck against Wyoming.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
This weekend.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
By the way, are you excited as the governor for
Texas and Texas A and M to be playing again
starting next year?
Speaker 4 (11:43):
So something that I placed early on in my administration
that I would reunite the Texas, Texas A and M
football rivalry and it's going to happen next year.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Awesome, appreciate it, sir, Thank you.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
Take care.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
That is Texas Governor Greg Abbott, Raggies and Longhorns united there. Actually,
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Speaker 5 (13:11):
He is a man of precise words. John Fetterman, he
is a Senator from Pennsylvania, and sure enough he was asked,
I think this is by town Hall media. He was
asked about the impeachment. Have you seen this yet, Clay
or I always liked like the Spring Yet.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
No, I'm reacting in real time. Whatever you play, Fetterman,
it means not exactly.
Speaker 5 (13:39):
The funeral oration of Pericles during the Peloponnesian War. He did, however,
weigh in on the impeachment inquiry into Joe Biden and
this is what he said.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Ask you about this news that Speaker McCarthy has formally
launched an impeachment and has said he's going, oh my.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Gosh, you know, oh, it's devastating.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Don't do it, Please, don't do it. Oh no, no.
Speaker 5 (14:08):
No, Now, first, I mean, you get it said he's
he's he's completely ridiculing the whole thing. What if Democrats
start to go in this direction. What if they decide,
Now I'm not saying that Fetterman is some strategic genius
here or anything.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
I'm not saying he's a genius. That's that's for sure.
Speaker 5 (14:26):
But what if they just decide that they're gonna they're
gonna mock and undermine the whole process while they're simultaneously
doing lawfare against Trump. It just hadn't occurred to me.
I think it's an interesting, uh approach. You know, because
Pelosi when she did I think it was the second
impeachment of Trump.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Clay she was, you know, abs upset.
Speaker 5 (14:43):
That saddens my heart. You know, she did the whole
and no one, no one actually believed her, but she
did the whole like this is a grave moment. And
then Clay doesn't realize I can be Nancy Pelosi too,
But uh, Fetterman saying that this is like a joke
and silly and dumb. Do you you think some Democrats
may take that approach to this to try to make
(15:03):
it because it's interesting to me, it's the opposite of that.
This is actually an entirely legitimate impeachment inquiry. This is
what impeachment is made for, high crimes and misdemeanors like
taking bribes.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
That's crazily the most eloquent I've heard from the Fetterman
in like in like a year. So the bar is
obviously set very low for John Fetterman in terms of
being able to speak in public in any way. I
had not heard that he also, now Fetterman has gotten
a makeover. He looks like a nineteen eighties porn star now,
(15:38):
which I don't know if that'll help or hurt his
political leanings in Pennsylvania, but I think it's very hard.
So let's begin with this analysis right in terms of
how Democrats are going to respond. The Democrat base is
going to see this as illegitimate.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Will they ridicule it? That's really what this is. I
don't think they'll do that.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
I don't think that the left has a sense of humor.
So what I mean by that is, when's the last
time that somebody on the left Dogmatism is the opposite
of humor.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Propaganda is the opposite of humor.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
It's very hard when you believe that you are everything
that's good in the world and your opponents are everything
that's evil. It's very hard to have a sense of humor.
I used to ask this question, Buck, and you actually
interacted more with the terrorists back in the day than
I ever did. Do you think a lot of Muslim
fundamentalists are funny? Like if you were hanging around in
(16:40):
a terror camp, like, are there funny terrorists?
Speaker 5 (16:42):
Like would you be like? Did not make a lot
of did not make a lot of jokes.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Like Osama bin Lauden. Doesn't seem to me like a
guy who's got a great sense of humor, right, And
and my point on this is.
Speaker 5 (16:52):
The radicals did have a lot of pornography on their
computers and their phones and stuff.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
As an aside, but that's a whole other conversation.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
But humor typically requires nuance, and it requires the ability
to be self reflective. It's the opposite of absolutism in general.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
And so when you.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Ask that question, my immediate response is Democrats have convinced
themselves that they are the moral paragons of virtue, and
so I don't think they can respond with humor. I
think that they are likely to respond by saying, oh,
this is a complete affront to American democracy.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
But ridicule is not.
Speaker 5 (17:30):
It's not necessarily funny. Right to ridicule something is not
necessarily to try to make people laugh with it.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
They may just say this is this is preposterous, right.
Speaker 5 (17:41):
They may get indignant and huffy about how silly these
proceedings are. Yeah, well that's that I'm trying to find
it out on the merits.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
I'm just saying, I think that this will be such
a good test of how much commitment there actually is
to Joe Biden, because there's going to be a lot
of body blows being landed, and many of them, I
think are going to resonate because there's a lot of credible,
legitimate under oath allegations of impropriety against Joe Biden. My
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the front lines of truth. We got a crazy story
out of Virginia. I know politics can have crazy stories.
This is a legitimately crazy story. So let me give
you the background of why this is a potentially blockbuster
story in the state of Virginia. First all, we talked
what Monday about the right decision that Glenn Youngkin had
(19:20):
made to provide a pardon to the father who showed
up at the Louden County school Board, if I remember correctly,
and said his daughter had been sexually assaulted by a
boy who was dressed up as a girl and went
into the girl's bathroom, and that turned into a huge story.
It was a big part of the twenty twenty one election.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
They charged to him.
Speaker 5 (19:40):
They charged that dad with assault because he was unruly
at the school board meeting and the prosecutor was really
trying to get him.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Yes, so here is a crazy story that's going on.
So we had Glenn Youngkin on the program what like
a couple of months ago. Glenn Youngkin is trying to
flip the House of Delegates in virgin I believe somebody
can correct me on this, staff look it up. The
Senate I think has a small Republican majority, and I
(20:07):
think they're trying to flip the House either way. I
know the House is not Andy have a small Democrat majority,
and there's basically seven seats that are in dispute that
are battleground districts. One of the battleground districts is a
woman named and again this is I'm reading this is everywhere. Okay,
(20:30):
this is not just you know, me going into the
into the scandal rags. I'm reading the New York Times,
major story on Washington Post.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
It's everywhere.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
A Democrat candidate for the Virginia General Assembly in a
crucial race, according to The New York Times. On Monday,
the AP and the Washington Post reported that she and
her husband had been live streaming sex acts through a
(20:59):
web site called Chatterbait, where she was a hot wife
experience was her name, and if you paid them, she
and her husband they would engage in sex acts on
camera for you. Buck off air. I was saying, I
(21:22):
don't know how anybody found out about this, because somebody
was watching a lot of different porn and they were like, hey,
this looks like the woman who's right for the Virginia
General Assembly. I have so many questions about this on
so many different levels. One, if you were making sex
tapes with your husband on a website called Chatterbait, did
(21:44):
you really think that this was not going to go
public if you decided to run for office. I mean
there's all these stories about OnlyFans models who are like moms,
and then the.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
PTA finds out.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
I mean, like, if you make porn videos just an
idea or the public it's going to get out. There
are very many people who are like, yeah, you know,
I used to be in porn. Nobody found out, and
I do if you do porn, like it's gonna get out.
But the crazy thing about this Buck is she's trying
to make herself the victim here, and I just take it.
(22:16):
Outside of Buck, the fact that she's involved in porn
acts with her husband for money, which I would imagine
most people don't do. But if that's your thing, whatever,
I'm very confident that most people who are in politics
don't do this. But they went after Glenn Youngkin for
wearing like a sweater vest and being involved with the
(22:39):
Carlisle group. His job is a huge part of why
he was attacked. They said, you know, he's he's a
corporate raider. He's totally untrustworthy. And now this woman is
saying that she's a victim, and she says the FBI
needs to investigate, and the whole thing is very strange.
Speaker 5 (23:00):
Here's the claim for a lawyer for miss Gibson. This
is from The New York Times said it was unlawful
in the state to record someone in a state of
undress and distribute it to a third party. Without that
person's consent. But if you record yourself in a state
of undress and post that in a public forum, even
(23:22):
if you have to pay for that public forum, is
then the distribution of that under that statute? You see,
you know what I mean that. I don't understand how that? Uh,
how that?
Speaker 1 (23:34):
I don't know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
It could be it could be a copyright infringement. Yeah,
I could see that. And again this is me putting
my lawyer hat on here. And let me be clear,
I'm not an expert on chatterbay dot com.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Maybe some of you are, uh.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
But uh, I don't know exactly how this website is constructed.
The way that they may be making this argument is
that this was like like a private sex act that
only one person is able to see. I don't know
how this thing is designed, and therefore you are not
able to make a copy of it and then disseminate,
(24:10):
which is an interesting word, of course, disseminate that copy
as a result.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
But the bigger picture here is.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
She ran as one of the democrats top candidates despite
recently being a sex act performer on the internet, and
she's trying to argue that it's unfair that this would
come out.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
I mean that seems to be fair.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Look if she were twenty or eighteen and she was
in college and she was like, you know, working at
Hooters or a you know, like a boob bar or
something like that, I'd be like, well, that was twenty
years ago. People change. It probably still is a story,
but it's a lot different than Hey, my husband and
I did sex tapes for paying customers, and now it's
(24:59):
unfair for that evidence to come out.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
And for those of you out there like this is
a crazy story.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
This might decide who has control of the Virginia House.
And there has been suggestions that if Glenn Youngkin and
the Republicans take back control of Virginia House, he might
decide to enter the presidential race. I mean, this is
so this woman's sex tapes might in some way implicate
(25:25):
who winds up running for president in the Republican primary.
Speaker 5 (25:29):
It won't intimidate me, and it won't silence me, she
said in a statement. This is the woman who's running
for the state, you know, state House. My political opponents
and the Republican allies have proven they're willing to commit
a sex crime to attack me and my family because
there's no line they won't cross to silence women when
(25:50):
they speak up. Wow, I just I mean, first of all,
the audacity to make yourself the victim when you and
your husband have been allegedly being paid to engage in
sex acts on camera.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
By the way, they have two kids. I think the
husband is a lawyer.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
The husband didn't say, hey, honey, you know, I understand
you've got this political itch, but you know, we did
make a lot of sex tape videos on chatterbay dot com.
Speaker 5 (26:22):
I think they may maybe we should do it. Who
found this video? You think they may actually try to
press charges? I mean, I didn't even know that this
was a statue. I mean it's I don't live in Virginia,
but I think a lot of Virginians probably don't even
know it's It's really it's a what do you call it,
like a revenge porn or what's the I think that's.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
The term that a lot of people use. But that's different, Buck,
because there's a dot.
Speaker 5 (26:45):
Like a private conduct between two people that is recorded
and then shared without consent to a third party. And
there are a lot of states that have passed laws
against that, and I think there are even criminal statutes
now against that because of how common it is.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
But if you're engaged, this is the part of it
is that this is the key part of it legally, right, Yeah, if.
Speaker 5 (27:04):
You're engaged in commercial online sexual activity, it's commerce now,
I mean this is now you're down. It's a business transaction.
Is that also protected as though it's you know, private
consenting adults?
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Well, and this is again so interesting. I mean, honestly
from a legal perspective, how this website is created, I'm
not familiar with it. If this is the equivalent of
like a private show, like people may remember, may have heard,
may have have heard that such things could occur, there
(27:38):
are like lab dances, and then there are private lab dances,
or there are peep shows, and then there are private
peep shows in a digital context, is there a difference
in terms of the way that those are constructed? I
think legally that could be an interesting argument. But to
(27:59):
your point, once you are engaged in the commercial selling
of sex, right, which it seems quite clear that she was,
people would pay for her and evidently she and her
husband to engage in sex acts on camera. Once you're
engaged in that, I can see a copyright claim where
(28:20):
you can say, hey, uh this, you weren't allowed to
make a copy of this and then distribute it to
other people, and therefore it's a copyright violation.
Speaker 5 (28:31):
Yeah, but they're calling a study. Now they're saying it's
sex crime. Yeah, they're saying it's a sex crime and
a criminal statute has been violated by the person who
I mean and this is.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
And also Buck, I would just say, in the interests
of elections, wouldn't you want to know if you're congress
person or your House of Burgess's member or whatever it's
called in in Virginia, wouldn't you want.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
To know if that was what they had done in
their past?
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Like I would want to know, Oh, this person, they
worked as a lawyer and they worked as a UPS
delivery person and like, oh she was a sex worker,
well okay recently. Like that seems like something that would
be hard. Got to be careful with all the word
choices here, hard to justify in many different aspects, and
(29:25):
to make yourself the victim when you voluntarily engaged in
public at sex acts for money, I just I don't
buy it.
Speaker 5 (29:32):
Let me just put this out there. This is my
my gut instinct on this, and maybe I'm completely way off.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
He may still win. Does that seem crazy to you?
I so this is such a big topic of conversation.
I think we're moving towards the era and some of
you are going to be like, my god, Clay, you're crazy.
I think we're moving towards the era where naked photos,
sex tapes, all of that stuff is so commonplace. If
(30:03):
you are right now listening to us and you are
twenty five years old, I bet sixty or seventy percent
of twenty five year olds today, at some point in
time there's a video or pictures or something that is
of a scandalous nature. Because everybody's got phones in their hands.
So I think the younger generation is desensitized in some
(30:26):
way to this. I think that it's very generational. I
think if you're listening to us right now and you're sixty,
I think you're like, my god, there's no way this
woman can be a representative.
Speaker 5 (30:36):
I just I was just thinking in terms of the
narrative that she's a victim, and if under state law
there is some interpretation of that that a crime has
been committed here, then it's she's a victim, and I'm
just saying it doesn't seem to me like this is
necessarily I wouldn't bet money on this, but it doesn't
seem to me like this is necessarily the end of
(30:56):
this woman's aspirations to represent the state of of Virginia.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
Here's an easy answer, right, So you not crazy? You
agree that's not crazy. No, I don't know what the
district looks like. I don't know what percentage is a
Republican versus Democrat. Buck they elected Fetterman. If I had
to say, like, would you rather you mean Jenny, I
just mean the district in general, like Democrats elected Fetterman.
If you told me right now, hey, you have an option.
(31:22):
It's a woman who did sex acts with her husband,
but her brain works and she can actually answer questions
and represent the state of Pennsylvania or John Fetterman. And
I had to choose between the two, I would pick
that woman if Fetterman's not disqualifying, and heck, if Joe
Biden's not disqualifying. If the woman believes the right things
(31:43):
in terms of Democrat orthodoxy, I think a lot of
people will show up.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
And vote for it no matter what.
Speaker 5 (31:49):
Eight hundred two two eight eight two Any of you
in Virginia who have some insight on this race or
the situation, the politics of the situation.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Please you're sorry. Sorry.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
Phones that lit up everybody's got opinions on chatterbay dot com.
You work expects the phone, the phonet, that the phone
screening is going to be at a different level for
this to use.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
I wanted to talk about guns in New Mexico. Claim
wanted to do this one. I'm just kidding.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
That story is fascinating and it is interesting, and it's
everywhere right now.
Speaker 5 (32:20):
But also when you are getting this phase where when
the interpretation of law truly requires someone to be a lawyer,
and even lawyers might be able to differ on a
criminal statute and its applications, Like, there's something going on
here with with the complexities of the statutes that.
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Welcome back, tem thanks for being here with us. We're
going to be in the next hour talking to you
about this thirty day gunban in New Mexico, well really
just in Santa Fe. I believe that Governor Luhan Grisham
has tried and I think is getting enormous pushback on
We also have a info Wars host who just got
(34:03):
sixty days in federal prison for being present in a
restricted area on January sixth, not inside the Capitol building,
on the grounds, the general grounds of the capitol. So
I guess I mean, effectively, Clay, it must have been
that he went past the police do not cross line.
(34:23):
You didn't go in a building, didn't attack anyone, didn't
destroy any property. There are no allegations that he did
those things. Six days, sixty days in prison, Yeah, I
mean that's I got. I mean the maximum was a year,
but still sixty days in prison. A first time offender,
first time entirely non violent offender. Well, we'll get into
some of that.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (34:42):
Mark from Montana wants to weigh in on the mess
in the situation that has played out that we're just
talking about a second ago.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
What's going on? Mark?
Speaker 3 (34:53):
Yeah, Hi, thanks for taking my call. What I was
going to tell you, so maybe a couple of months ago,
I was that we have a little hot springs here.
I was in the hot springs and there was three
twenty somethings, like twenty twenty one year old women.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
I've heard stories like this before. By the way, I
don't know where it's going okay.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
No, No, I was.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
A fireman and I just showed up and yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
Sorry, continue, No, it wasn't it wasn't anything Devia. But
they were all sitting around the pools, three of them,
and they were discussing their experiences on Only Fans.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
They were all three You were to hot tub with
three OnlyFans models?
Speaker 3 (35:35):
Well, no, well I was at a hot springs pool
with so it was like, you know, like, wait.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
Let his story.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
I'm sorry, I'm just I'm trying to get a better paid,
a better mental picture here.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
Yeah, there were other people around.
Speaker 4 (35:49):
It was a public pool.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
I just happened to be in there and there was
three yeah, OnlyFans models, And I'll be honest with you,
one of them really wasn't all that attractive. But they
were all sitting around talking about their experiences on OnlyFans,
and so I just kind of overheard him and I started.
I had a conversation with him about it. And one
thing I realized, because one had made of all the
(36:12):
funny things, had made a lot of money off of
her feet, but there were but the other two. They
all talked about how much money they may None of
them made a whole lot of money. But I realized
having this conversation with them, how comfortable that generation, like
the twenty young twenty somethings, the nineteen year olds really
(36:34):
are with.
Speaker 5 (36:37):
Yeah, this stuff has been normalized. Mark from Monteta, Thanks
thanks for calling in. Here's a totally PG story, mister
Claike Travis, totally. I just thought it was gonna be
a plumber, He's gonna be a fireman.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
Foot fetish pictures like all this stuff is just crazy
to me, but evidently there's lots of money in it.
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