November 18, 2023 • 36 mins
“The Marvels” flops at box office. Denzel Washington as Hannibal. Biden makes no sense during ceremony with Las Vegas Golden Knights. Piers Morgan asks Jeremy Corbyn 15 times whether the former labor leader thinks Hamas is a terror group. Corbyn refuses to answer. AOC says there's no military solution to Hamas-Israel conflict. Clay and Buck extend Nikki Haley invite to respond to Vivek Ramaswamy. Vivek vs. Chris Cuomo.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
All Right, second hour play in book Stark's right now,
and we were having a discussion that we can finish
up here. I think I can get back to some
Biden business and maybe even mentioned that the Governor of
New York has announced surveillance efforts in the state of
New York by government employees to collect data on hate
(00:28):
online to try to counter it. That is disconcerting. You
don't usually want to hear about government monitoring of speech
to make sure that they're there to counter the speech.
Not really the job of government, no matter what the
speech in terms of the content may be. But in
New York you have one of the least capable governors
(00:49):
in the entire country in Kathy Hokeel, and there she
is saying that that's what they are doing. We also
have some moments in the exchanges over the Israel Hamas war,
including Piers Morgan asking left wing British politician Jeremy Corbin
whether Hamas is a terror group. You'll want to hear
how that goes down, and AOC demanding a cease fire.
(01:11):
Of course, we're also going to have in the third
hour Congressman Tim Burchett, who says he got elbowed by
Kevin McCarthy in the back. Right. I mean, am I
saying this right? I mean, am I getting the details
right here? This is just coming in. We'll have him
(01:32):
join us to talk about Wait now we have congressmen
literally throwing elbows, not not just metaphorically speaking, So we
shall discuss that. But all right, so Clay got you know,
he wanted to finish up this discussion. I thought it
was interesting. Yeah, there's two things in the world, well
a few things in the world of entertainment that are
catching people's attention. One is that the Snow White Woke
(01:54):
remake is looking like it's going to cost three hundred
million dollars. Then is a total disaster, and they have
laid the release for a year. A three hundred million
dollar movie. Everybody that is almost certainly going to be cracked, right.
I mean I would put, well, you've got more from
me on this.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
No, no, no, I was just gonna say, yes, that
is that one is the Disney thing you mentioned, the Marvels.
I've got the data on that to give me that
data from this article.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Okay, So they have made. This is the thirty third.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Superhero movie, and I bet I have seen the Travis
family have seen all thirty three collectively, because my boys
go see all these superhero movies. This one, though, buck
is called The Marvels, and it's about a trio of
female superheroes whose powers become entangled. Yeah, Brie Larson, Tiona Parris,
(02:44):
and Emon Velani.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
It's a white woman, black woman, and like Asian woman.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
I mean it is the most clearly cloyingly diverse Leyden
for purposes of diversity and not story movie that Marvel
has made. It cost three hundred million dollars to make.
It made forty seven million dollars in ticket sales this
(03:11):
past weekend, the lowest ever opening for a Marvel release.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Uh. This guy, who is a.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Film consultant and ticket sales expert quoted here, says this
opening is an unprecedented Marvel box office collapse.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Until now.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
The Incredible Hulk, which was released in two thousand and eight,
was the studio's worst debut. It did almost double what
The Marvels did.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
And I think that Incredible Hulk movie was leaked online
if I remember before it actually hit the theaters. Do
you remember this is back when online piracy was this.
Oh yeah, I remember that yet, and I watched that movie.
I didn't think it was as bad as everybody said that.
Ed Norton played the incredible Hulk, right Norton When I'm
thinking the Eric Banna one that came out, maybe that
was maybe I screwed it up. I'm not sure which
one it was.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
But the point on this is to you're building snow
White is the disaster, worst Pixar movie opening ever.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
And now that they had to.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Stop doing Star Wars movies because they got so woke,
everybody was like, screw this. They just had the funny
south Park thing where Kathleen Kennedy, who was in charge
of all these movies, got ridiculed and they they did
a diverse version of south Park where all of the
south Park characters, many of whom are white, are replaced
(04:34):
by like transgender women like in the South Park Show,
which is really really a funny concept. But that's basically
what's going on. This woke reinvention of popular film has
now blown up in Disney Space.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Well, here's the thing. If if your primary, if your
primary mission is to entertain, that entertain people, that is
challenging to do really well. I mean, to write a
good story and execute on it and have you know,
otherwise there'd be nothing but successful TV shows. Most TV
shows bomb and once you don't even realize. For most folks,
(05:12):
I've been kind of involved in the very early stage
of one or two projects in my life, like scripted
TV shows. Most TV shows don't even get passed or
don't even get made into pilots right or if they
get made into a pilot, they don't get beyond the
pilot phase, or if they get beyond the pilot phase,
they don't get picked up after season one. I mean,
it's very difficult to get shows made. And yet when
you add on top of it a political mission, not
(05:35):
just what is going to entertain the largest audience possible
that we're seeking to entertain, when you decide that it's
going to be what will make other executives at my
company think that I'm a good person, because you know,
I want to cast the most diverse version of you know,
fill in the blank whatever the show is going to
be ever made and the remakes. Also, another thing you
(05:58):
see is there's a lot of you know, I know,
if you're gonna make these diverse films or diverse movie,
diverse movies. You would think that one way to do
it would just be create something new, but there's this
desire to always go back, I think, and make the diverse,
like the snow White things a perfect sample, make the
diverse version of snow white and and so then that
that that then brings up this I do. It's Antoine
(06:20):
Fuqua who is the director for the UH, and he's
done some good stuff. He did Training Day. I mean,
he's a good director. I think this will be a
good series. I think Denzel Washington is an ex Denzel
Washington is an excellent actorate with world class. Like Clay said,
top five, I would I would co sign that for
his generation UH. He's an amazing actor and I think
(06:42):
he'll do an excellent job as Hannibal. The Hannibal story
is absolutely incredible. He's one of the five greatest generals.
I think you could argue of all time based on
what he was able to do and just going around
in a hostile territory with an army and beating the
greatest military power of the time over and over again
until eventually Scipio Africanist comes and they have the Battle
(07:04):
of Zama and he loses. But anyway, Clay, you have
some people who are pointing out that there's I think
there are different takes on this, right because I'm of
the mind and you said this too, that you know,
you don't have to be paralyzed to play a paralyzed character,
right Like, let's not get crazy.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
You don't have to be fat to play a fat person.
You don't have to be to play a trans person.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Yes, that there have been there have been people who
have said it is ablest to have an actor who
you know is not paralyzed play a paralyzed person. Is
make believe, Okay, so we start from that premise. It
is make believe in it is entertainment. The only thing
that I would point out is I do think it's
worth people knowing, like if because there will be a
huge surgeon interest in the Second Punic War, I think,
(07:47):
and you know, you'll see more podcasts about it and
more interest in it. Uh, And it's a fascinating period
in ancient Roman history. You'll see a big surge of
interest in Hannibal, and I think Hannibal Barka will become
the most famous man of that name and not a
serial killer who like eats people's faces or whatever, because
that you know that that has been thanks to silence
of the Lambs, people thought Hannibal for a long time,
(08:08):
and that's what they've thought of instead of one of
the greatest uh, you know, Roman generals of all time.
I'm sorry, not Roman General's greatest generals of all time
obviously at Carthaginian general. But Denzel Washington is black and
he's playing he's playing someone a historical character who is
if you actually look at the history not black. Is
that an issue? I don't think it's an issue. But
(08:30):
I also think that people should one know the correct
I think it's we all should be on the same
page of what the correct history is. I don't think
you should change the history to sort of suit anyone's
political goals one way or the other. And then beyond
that these need to be the rules then right, And
this is the part of it that this is where
I think it all falls down. Like I think if
if somebody wanted to you know, well, I mean, you
(08:51):
even look at what's the show that ever? You know,
you look at Hamilton for example, Oh.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
I think the Hamilton and now so there's a great
line in succession, many great lines. But they're having a
meeting to try to pick a Republican presidential contender, and
one of the guys says, yeah, this is the meeting
where you don't have to pretend that you like Hamilton,
which I thought was really funny.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
So I have no question. Did you like Hamilton? I
thought it was okay. I thought I thought it was
honestly boring garbage. And I don't mean that because of
the politics, Like I just thought it wasn't enjoyable to watch.
I wasn't well.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
I've said before my big issue is I don't like musicals.
So I just every time I understand that you can say,
like I'm a cult you know, a lack of cultured
swine here, But every single time that people start to
sing in a musical, I just think to myself, nobody
would ever sing, like, just give me the story. I
(09:49):
like story. I don't like singing stories. I guess you're
an opera guy either. I would never go to the opera. Yeah,
if I were single, the girl would have to be
so incredibly good looking for me to be willing to
go to the opera. And my wife I don't even
think would be willing to try to get me to
go to the opera, because she'd be like, this is
(10:10):
just gonna be such a battle.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
He's gonna fight it the whole way. Yeah, I'm not
an opera guy. I'm not a music guy like you have.
If you have like four hours to kill, the opera
is a great way. So but what I thought almost
immediately was I do.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
I thought it was fine, Like I like the production
aspects of Broadway plays. I went and took my kids
to go see the new Harry Potter like cursing Child.
I thought that was pretty good. Not a musical, by
the way. But if you did a country and western
version of the Obama administration instead of a rap version
of Alexander Hamilton country and Western version of the Obama administration,
(10:49):
and like Garth Brooks played Barack Obama, people would lose
their mind. Now, I think it would actually be really
really funny to do a country in what version of
the Obama administration? And I don't know, you could have
like who is Taylor Swift play Michelle Obama? I don't know,
to the extent you want to count her as a
(11:10):
country artist? People would lose their mind if white people
played Barack and Michelle Obama in a country and Western
version of the Obama administration. If that is true, where
is the line on historical figures, for instance, like Frederick Douglas.
If they've made a bio pick of Frederick Douglas and
(11:32):
they put jo KEM Phoenix into play Frederick to Frederick Douglas,
people would lose their minds. Remember the great that the
movie's really funny Tropic Thunder? Is it Tropic Thunder? Or
Robert Downey Junior plays a black guy.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
I was surprised that they were able to do that,
and there wasn't even more of a pushback, but they
were able to do it.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
It's that's a hysterical movie, and Robert Downey Junior playing
the black guy is really really funny.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
I'm with you.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
I think if the standard, certainly for historical figures, I
think you know you Shakespeare as an example, all races
play Shakespeare because it is such a canonical element of
Western literature that it has been embraced worldwide.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
So you have Hamlet, Yeah, well but there's no there
is no Hamlet really right, like, so you know Hamilt,
but there are you know, like there are was from Denmark,
so we probably you know, he probably was a guy. Probably.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
It's such a member of the historical canon that you know,
all throughout Asia they're doing versions of Hamlet, right, and
so Asian actors everything else. So I think you can
go back far enough where it's such a part of
the canon. What I don't like is this is popular
now on Netflix. Bridgerton, which is clearly set in you know,
(12:50):
seventeen hundred's Jane Austen era. To my knowledge, I haven't
ever watched it England, and people are all of different races. Well,
it has a particular historical setting. When you have people
who are not of those races suddenly there, it takes
me in some way out of the story. I don't
think I was watching zell as Hannibal is going to
(13:11):
take me out of the story.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
I was watching because I find Viking history, the Vikings
are fascinating, and you know, there's been a big surge
in interest in Vikings over the last ten or fifteen years.
That show Travis Himmel was in, You know that that guy,
and there have been a few others. Last The Last Kingdom,
which is on Netflix as a phenomenal series. There have
(13:32):
been a number of but you know the Vikings, you're
going into the eight hundreds and nine hundreds, there was
a Netflix a Viking something or other. I even forget
what it was called. It was like Vikings at war
or Vikings you know, bloody fighting or something. I forget
what it was called. But whatever, But I mean I'm
watching it. In like one or two episodes. In one
of the Viking kings, is a is cast as a
(13:55):
like a king of basically Denmark in the eight hundreds
is a black female. Yeah, And I'm and it's and
it's not that I've like, it's not a problem with
it other than I see here and I say to myself, like,
I mean, we're everything else is historically accurate, right, We're
just gonna We're just gonna do this.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Yeah, they don't suddenly just have somebody driving a car
in the Viking series, right, Like if somebody suddenly it
was like element a motorcycle.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Yeah, well that wasn't authenticity, like like asking me to
suspend some degree disblig I mean, for example, Game of Thrones,
there's a lot of diversity they able they were able
to work in Game of Thrones, but it never actually
felt forced at all. It felt like they brought in
this character, brought in that character. There was nothing in game.
Now that's obviously all a fictional realm of fictional world,
but they were that was a very diverse show, and
they did it very well. I think it's one of
the greatest TV shows actually, you know, of all time
(14:42):
when you really add it all up, even though last
two seasons kind of went off the cliff. But you know,
if you're going to like if you're going to do
George Washington's spir Ring circa seventeen seventy six, and then
all of a sudden there's a character who is from like,
you know, Tokyo who shows up, who's just like, hey, guys,
(15:03):
like I'm just I just happened to be here because
we needed some diversity. Like it's problem.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Well, like if you were doing a movie on D
Day and Dwight Eisenhower was black, I think people would
be like, hey, you know, I think that this is
you know, again some point the historical cannon. Here's a
good way of putting it. What was the movie that
just came out about the African queen, like the tribe
the Fighters, about the Dahomie, the Yes the tribe, the
African tribe best known for enslaving other Africans. In fact, Yes,
(15:30):
the Woman King, Woman King. Yes, Okay, and there's a
you know, star black woman in The Woman King. If
you had done The Woman King and it was a
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Speaker 1 (16:41):
Back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Our esteemed President
was welcoming the Vegas Golden Knights, that is, the NHL
champion team to the White House yesterday, and Joe Biden
can't even represent a championship team in the White House
without managing to screw up and just say weird things.
Here's about a fifteen second cut where he randomly starts
(17:03):
asking the hockey team not to take away the Philadelphia Eagles.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
Just one promise. I don't get the filled up Eagles
to leave and go because I'll get divorce to find them.
I married a Philly girl and it's a long story.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
I don't know why people are laughing Buck. Vegas has
its own NFL team now, the Vegas Raiders, So I
don't know if Joe Biden's not aware of that. Maybe
this was supposed to be like a relocation joke, but
nobody's trying to get the Philadelphia Eagles to move to
Las Vegas.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Like This is really just kind of weird.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Biden can't even do normal things now to me just
kind of stands out.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
But does he have to do normal things? Well, that's
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playing some different audio for you over the last few
weeks of people who really tend to get it. I mean,
we've been giving Doug Murray some high fives for excellent
analysis of the Israel Hamas war, for example, and and
(19:14):
just seeing through a lot of the nonsense, a lot
of the absurd things that people are saying to try
to create a moral equivalency that is just not it's
not rooted in reality. And you know, I think it's
I think it's important that we also show when there
(19:35):
are people who are aligned with the other side and
won't give straight answers, and we'll engage in some kind
of prevarication, maybe even a little bit of cowardice when
they're pushed. Listen to this. This is so Jeremy Corbyn
is like the far left, most famous far left politician
(19:55):
I think in the UK right now. I mean, he
is like the is he a social I don't follow
UK politics that well, but I know he's the guy's
basically a comedy. I'm trying to pull up his specific
designation right now. He's a member of Parliament, the UK
Leader of the Opposition, leader of the Labor Party from
two twenty fifteen to twenty twenty. So he's he's like
(20:17):
the Nancy Pelosi of the United Kingdom, except an even
bigger communists. And there you have it. Here is Piers
Morgan pushing this guy on. This is such a straightforward question.
Is hamas a terrorist group? Play it?
Speaker 4 (20:34):
Can I have a discussion? Can you call them a terrorists?
Can we have Can you call them a terrorists? Is
it possible to have a rational? Are you prepared to
call Is it possible of a rational? Can you is
it possible?
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Come on? Answer that? Can you answer it? No, it's
my show. You answer my question. Moha masa terra group? Listen?
Speaker 4 (20:53):
Can I are they a terror group? Can I answer
the question? Can I speak? Are they a terror group?
Speaker 2 (21:00):
People?
Speaker 4 (21:01):
If you let me speak, He'll let me speak.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
I'll say something.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
Then a ceasefire means both sides?
Speaker 2 (21:07):
And are they a terror group? Listen? I said that?
Speaker 4 (21:10):
Are the terror group of the process. Are the terri well,
can we why can't you say it?
Speaker 3 (21:16):
Peers?
Speaker 4 (21:17):
Can we go through what ought to be?
Speaker 2 (21:20):
Just answer my question?
Speaker 4 (21:21):
Why do you think are Harmasa terrifers in the world
are calling for a CEASAR terror group? Come a me,
No your show.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
You've got so many opinions. Why should I answer yours
when you want answer mine? It is he is a
yes or no question, and that guy wasn't going to
answer it because if he says yes, he knows that
the far left labor support the thing. When you think
of labor, think of like, you know, the AOC wing
of of the US, I mean, the the most left
(21:51):
wing stuff in the UK. He won't answer because he'll
make them all angry at him. But if he doesn't
say Hamas is a terror group, it's like, oh so
you're okay with them? Awesome what it just did. That's
perfect Appere's Morgan.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
I mean, even though there's obviously conflict is good sometimes
because it is enlightening to reveal what people actually believe.
And I don't think there's anything that you can point
to on the right that would be akin to that right.
I was thinking about this when I watched the clipbuck
In other words, if I went on a television show,
(22:28):
I don't think there's any question I could be asked
that is basic, like that that we all know is
true that someone on the right wouldn't answer. But I
think there are a lot of things that the left
knows are untrue that because of their identity, politics, coalition,
and how corrupt it is, they won't answer. And I'll
(22:50):
give you a good example. There isn't a single person
on the left in this country who can explain why
it is heroic to change your gender, but it's racist
to change your race.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
They can't answer that.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
You could sit down with anybody if Joe Biden would
ever come on this show. I don't think Joe Biden
could even answer. Joe Biden, you've said many times it
is very courageous. Some of the bravest people you know,
even Joe Biden, you said, are kids who decide that
they're a different sex than what they were born.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
You said, that's brave, You said, that's courageous. Why would it.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Be racist for them to decide that they're a different
race than what they were born? To me, you could
ask certain questions that go to the very heart of
what the left claims to stand for in America today
and around the world in many respects in Western democracies,
and they can't speak truthfully.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
This is like at ESPN, buck.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
If most people at ESPN won't say that men shouldn't
compete against women in athletics, they won't say it. They
all know that shouldn't happen. They won't answer it. And
that to me is very illuminating. When you get asked
a question that is very much the essence of what
(24:12):
you believe and you won't answer it.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Honestly, it's a sign of the failure of the party.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
And I think of what it represents is that identity
politics destroys everything that it touches because eventually logic corrupts it.
And I think that clip is fantastic for that reason. Yes,
and if you can't, if you can't answer the most
straightforward questions about a belief that you have that is
(24:38):
passionately held, I think it's worth asking why. And then
we have I mentioned the AOC wing. Here's aoc at
a quote Rabbis for ceasefire rally.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
This is fifteen play it.
Speaker 5 (24:51):
Ceasefire means there is no military solution, only a diplomatic
and cultural solution, national solution, a reckoning with ourselves in
our history.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
That is what cease fire now means. No, there's a
military solution. You're gonna have to kill every member of
Hamas that was involved in this attack and every part
of the leadership. You either imprison them or kill them,
or else you're gonna get hit again. So she's just wrong.
I mean this. I imagine saying, guys, we don't need
to get bin Laden and the al Qaedeze in your leadership,
and we don't need to shut down the training camps.
(25:26):
We need a cultural solution, and we should have a
ceasefire after nine to eleven.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Not only nine to eleven. Imagine right after the we
got bombed at Pearl Harbor. I almost said to Germans
like it was a a great movie back in the
day Animal House. After we got bombed at Pearl Harbor
by Japan. Can you imagine if Franklin Roosevelt had said,
you know, instead of today is a day that will
(25:52):
live in infamy and announced that we will go to
war with Germany and Japan and everybody else. What if
he had just said, hey, you know, yes they just
blew up all of our Pacific fleet and it was
a completely dastardly, unprecedented attack.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
But we just have to turn the other cheek. Japan
isn't our enemy.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
Going to war with the Nazis and the imperialist powers
in Japan is not going to solve anything.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
We should just pretend this never happened.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
I mean, can you imagine where we would be historically?
So I don't even think it's just using nine to eleven.
I think anytime you are the victim of an unprovoked attack,
you have an obligation, a moral responsibility to respond when
evil infringes itself upon the health and safety of your population.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
I mean, you think that these Democrat politicians and pundits
and professors in this country, do you think that they'd
be able to look face to face the families of
the fourteen hundred, including women, children, the elderly babies who
are brutally murdered, and say, you know what we really
(27:10):
need right now a ceasefire. You know, I think that
this is just they're posturing for political reasons here out
of a combination of a few things, a lot of them.
It's under the surface anti semitism, it's a misunderstanding of
this conflict, which is about civilization versus barbarism. It is
not about some dispute over land anymore. And I think
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beyond that, they are virtue signaling on the graves of
fourteen hundred dead Israelis. It's appalling what they're doing, pretending
that somehow Israel is not allowed to defend itself. A
cease fire is something that is very short, it is
very temporary usually, and what they want is actually an
(27:57):
immediate cessation of hostilities, effectively a truce. So what they
want is after a mass casualty, terror attack, a sneak attack,
then the fighting stops. I mean, imagine if someone walked
up to you in the bar, punched you in the face,
knocked out your teeth, and broke your nose, and then said,
hold on, let's give piece a chance. That's what they want.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Think about it too from this perspective, Buck, If you're wondering, okay,
some people are just their piece snicks, right Quakers, Quakers
are going to be pretty consistent. They're going to say, hey,
you know what, I don't believe in war. I don't
want to be involved. Do you think any of the
AOC contingent Jamal Bowman, all of that universe that is
(28:38):
defending Hamas and defending Palestine. Do you think if Israel
had invaded the Gaza region and kidnapped hundreds of people
and murdered intentionally over one thousand people, and then the
Israeli soldiers had gone back to Israel and Hamas had
(29:01):
decided that they wanted to respond, do you think that
the aocs of the world and the Rashida ta Leaves
of the world would say, no, we need an immediate
cease fire. A response is not going to solve anything.
The problem they have buck is and this is what
identity politics creates. They can't conceive in their minds of
how brown people because that's how they see it, how
(29:24):
the Palestinians could be the bad guy because they bought
or anti white component of the left wing thinking on
this that overrides everything else that's right. They can't even
concept conceptualize, conceptualize the idea that a minority, a brown
person in this situation could have been the aggressor and
(29:47):
be evil. They can't conceive of basically bought into the
idea that whiteness equals evil.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
And they don't understand all these anti Semites don't understand
that the Jews are Semitic people, yes, meaning from the
area and have been for a long time. And many
of them come from actually what are now Muslim dominated
Arab countries because they were kicked out. It is not
a country full of guys who are you know, full
(30:14):
of people who are all like Jerry Seinfeld. That's what
they don't understand.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
Yeah, and by the way, there are a lot of
Jews out there that don't understand how they're seen, right.
They see themselves as the oppressed, right, the minority, because
historically no one has been more oppressed probably than the
Jewish people throughout the history of humanity. And yet because
many of them are white in appearance, they're the bad guy.
(30:41):
And I think there's a lot of Jewish people out
there listening to the show right now, and certainly a
lot of Jews on the left who are saying, hey,
we were there for you with Black Lives Matter, we
were there for you with trans awareness and LGBTQ and
everything else. We thought we were a part of the team.
And what you're seeing is the team on itself pretty quickly,
and there's an awful lot of people who believe the
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Speaker 1 (33:13):
We'll welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show. We
got fights breaking out everywhere, evidently on Capitol Hill Today
we're going to talk with Tim Burchett, who is a
Congressman from Tennessee. He says that Kevin McCarthy's one of
the eight I believe who voted against Kevin McCarthy and
removed him from the speakership. He says that Kevin McCarthy
walked by and elbowed him in the kidney while he
(33:35):
was doing an interview with a news media member. This
is now starting to go viral. We'll find out what
the story is there. Also in the Senate, Mark Wayne
Mullen from Oklahoma challenged a union member to a fight.
We'll play that audio for you in the next hour,
but in the meantime, yesterday Vivek Ramaswami was on the
(33:56):
show with us went after Nicki Haley pretty aggressive. We have,
by the way, extended and offered to Nicky Haley to
come on the show, as we always do.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
I just drop in really quickly here. I have been
kind of thinking that Nikki Haley has been ducking this show,
so I've been making some jokes to that end, and
the team finally pointed out to me randomly she has
been on when I was on honeymoon and when I
was on vacation in Europe with Carrie and Scotland. That
is when she has come on that. Maybe there was
one other time, but like she.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
Really had her on three times. But yeah, to your
point when you said I don't think she's been ducking
the show, I was like, I think I remember her
being on the show several times.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
So I've been on two of the three. I might
have even missed three of the three. I don't remember
talking to her on this show.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
But Nicky Haley on the show might be the equivalent
for you of the fact that Trump gets indicted every
time I go on vacation, Like.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
Oh, yeah, it's so funny. Clay's like, nothing's gonna happen
this Friday, Buck, You've got you got the reins, We'll
be fine, right, And then I get a text at
like one thirty pm Friday, He's like, I'm on the road.
I'm gonna call in. Trump's Kennon indicted. I'm like, I know,
I know.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
Yeah, So that's happened to every I think I've been
out every single time that Trump has been indicted. Just
so you know, maybe the Trump team needs to be
aware of this too. Thursday, they're doing the Patriot Awards
for Fox in Nashville, and I'm going to be doing
events all day with them, so I'm out in the
event that that happens, But I wanted to play. Vivek
went on Chris Cuomo's show yesterday after he went on
(35:19):
with us and really brought the two by four to
Cuomo as well.
Speaker 4 (35:22):
Listen, Nikki Haley keeps kicking your ass in these debates.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
Why going into the left wing media? Give me a
freaking break. You turn on social media. You understand people
watching that debate. I went to New Hampshire.
Speaker 7 (35:36):
People were laughing at the idea of the mainstream media's
coverage of the New York Times columnists and people like
you who belong there with one narrative because you have
some identity politic vision of what you think the leader
of this country jam.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
This country.
Speaker 7 (35:51):
Well, the fact of the matter is you guys have
made a career out of deciding that the America First
Agenda is not the future of this country.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
Kick that out of the Republican Party.
Speaker 7 (36:00):
Put a genteel version that you can control as your
little puppet.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
So American politics looks the way you want it to.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
WHOA and then he also accused him of covering up his.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
Brothers to foremost credit, he said, of course I covered
up for my brother. I gotta say loyalty to family,
can't I can't hate on anybody for that. You stay loyal.
You stay loyal to your family, no doubt.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
And we will talk with Tim Burchett when we come back.
And there are several other stories out there too that
we're going to dive into during the course of the
third hour, including Buck. If you've seen this story out
of Nashville, it's got me fired up. Another story from
my hometown. A Nashville DA led a man free after
he shot into a car full of children.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
Guess what happened.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
Guy out on the street fires again, kills an eighteen
year old college freshman out for job.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
Crazy
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
All Right, second hour play in book Stark's right now,
and we were having a discussion that we can finish
up here. I think I can get back to some
Biden business and maybe even mentioned that the Governor of
New York has announced surveillance efforts in the state of
New York by government employees to collect data on hate
(00:28):
online to try to counter it. That is disconcerting. You
don't usually want to hear about government monitoring of speech
to make sure that they're there to counter the speech.
Not really the job of government, no matter what the
speech in terms of the content may be. But in
New York you have one of the least capable governors
(00:49):
in the entire country in Kathy Hokeel, and there she
is saying that that's what they are doing. We also
have some moments in the exchanges over the Israel Hamas war,
including Piers Morgan asking left wing British politician Jeremy Corbin
whether Hamas is a terror group. You'll want to hear
how that goes down, and AOC demanding a cease fire.
(01:11):
Of course, we're also going to have in the third
hour Congressman Tim Burchett, who says he got elbowed by
Kevin McCarthy in the back. Right. I mean, am I
saying this right? I mean, am I getting the details
right here? This is just coming in. We'll have him
(01:32):
join us to talk about Wait now we have congressmen
literally throwing elbows, not not just metaphorically speaking, So we
shall discuss that. But all right, so Clay got you know,
he wanted to finish up this discussion. I thought it
was interesting. Yeah, there's two things in the world, well
a few things in the world of entertainment that are
catching people's attention. One is that the Snow White Woke
(01:54):
remake is looking like it's going to cost three hundred
million dollars. Then is a total disaster, and they have
laid the release for a year. A three hundred million
dollar movie. Everybody that is almost certainly going to be cracked, right.
I mean I would put, well, you've got more from
me on this.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
No, no, no, I was just gonna say, yes, that
is that one is the Disney thing you mentioned, the Marvels.
I've got the data on that to give me that
data from this article.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Okay, So they have made. This is the thirty third.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Superhero movie, and I bet I have seen the Travis
family have seen all thirty three collectively, because my boys
go see all these superhero movies. This one, though, buck
is called The Marvels, and it's about a trio of
female superheroes whose powers become entangled. Yeah, Brie Larson, Tiona Parris,
(02:44):
and Emon Velani.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
It's a white woman, black woman, and like Asian woman.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
I mean it is the most clearly cloyingly diverse Leyden
for purposes of diversity and not story movie that Marvel
has made. It cost three hundred million dollars to make.
It made forty seven million dollars in ticket sales this
(03:11):
past weekend, the lowest ever opening for a Marvel release.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Uh. This guy, who is a.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Film consultant and ticket sales expert quoted here, says this
opening is an unprecedented Marvel box office collapse.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Until now.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
The Incredible Hulk, which was released in two thousand and eight,
was the studio's worst debut. It did almost double what
The Marvels did.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
And I think that Incredible Hulk movie was leaked online
if I remember before it actually hit the theaters. Do
you remember this is back when online piracy was this.
Oh yeah, I remember that yet, and I watched that movie.
I didn't think it was as bad as everybody said that.
Ed Norton played the incredible Hulk, right Norton When I'm
thinking the Eric Banna one that came out, maybe that
was maybe I screwed it up. I'm not sure which
one it was.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
But the point on this is to you're building snow
White is the disaster, worst Pixar movie opening ever.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
And now that they had to.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Stop doing Star Wars movies because they got so woke,
everybody was like, screw this. They just had the funny
south Park thing where Kathleen Kennedy, who was in charge
of all these movies, got ridiculed and they they did
a diverse version of south Park where all of the
south Park characters, many of whom are white, are replaced
(04:34):
by like transgender women like in the South Park Show,
which is really really a funny concept. But that's basically
what's going on. This woke reinvention of popular film has
now blown up in Disney Space.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Well, here's the thing. If if your primary, if your
primary mission is to entertain, that entertain people, that is
challenging to do really well. I mean, to write a
good story and execute on it and have you know,
otherwise there'd be nothing but successful TV shows. Most TV
shows bomb and once you don't even realize. For most folks,
(05:12):
I've been kind of involved in the very early stage
of one or two projects in my life, like scripted
TV shows. Most TV shows don't even get passed or
don't even get made into pilots right or if they
get made into a pilot, they don't get beyond the
pilot phase, or if they get beyond the pilot phase,
they don't get picked up after season one. I mean,
it's very difficult to get shows made. And yet when
you add on top of it a political mission, not
(05:35):
just what is going to entertain the largest audience possible
that we're seeking to entertain, when you decide that it's
going to be what will make other executives at my
company think that I'm a good person, because you know,
I want to cast the most diverse version of you know,
fill in the blank whatever the show is going to
be ever made and the remakes. Also, another thing you
(05:58):
see is there's a lot of you know, I know,
if you're gonna make these diverse films or diverse movie,
diverse movies. You would think that one way to do
it would just be create something new, but there's this
desire to always go back, I think, and make the diverse,
like the snow White things a perfect sample, make the
diverse version of snow white and and so then that
that that then brings up this I do. It's Antoine
(06:20):
Fuqua who is the director for the UH, and he's
done some good stuff. He did Training Day. I mean,
he's a good director. I think this will be a
good series. I think Denzel Washington is an ex Denzel
Washington is an excellent actorate with world class. Like Clay said,
top five, I would I would co sign that for
his generation UH. He's an amazing actor and I think
(06:42):
he'll do an excellent job as Hannibal. The Hannibal story
is absolutely incredible. He's one of the five greatest generals.
I think you could argue of all time based on
what he was able to do and just going around
in a hostile territory with an army and beating the
greatest military power of the time over and over again
until eventually Scipio Africanist comes and they have the Battle
(07:04):
of Zama and he loses. But anyway, Clay, you have
some people who are pointing out that there's I think
there are different takes on this, right because I'm of
the mind and you said this too, that you know,
you don't have to be paralyzed to play a paralyzed character,
right Like, let's not get crazy.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
You don't have to be fat to play a fat person.
You don't have to be to play a trans person.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Yes, that there have been there have been people who
have said it is ablest to have an actor who
you know is not paralyzed play a paralyzed person. Is
make believe, Okay, so we start from that premise. It
is make believe in it is entertainment. The only thing
that I would point out is I do think it's
worth people knowing, like if because there will be a
huge surgeon interest in the Second Punic War, I think,
(07:47):
and you know, you'll see more podcasts about it and
more interest in it. Uh, And it's a fascinating period
in ancient Roman history. You'll see a big surge of
interest in Hannibal, and I think Hannibal Barka will become
the most famous man of that name and not a
serial killer who like eats people's faces or whatever, because
that you know that that has been thanks to silence
of the Lambs, people thought Hannibal for a long time,
(08:08):
and that's what they've thought of instead of one of
the greatest uh, you know, Roman generals of all time.
I'm sorry, not Roman General's greatest generals of all time
obviously at Carthaginian general. But Denzel Washington is black and
he's playing he's playing someone a historical character who is
if you actually look at the history not black. Is
that an issue? I don't think it's an issue. But
(08:30):
I also think that people should one know the correct
I think it's we all should be on the same
page of what the correct history is. I don't think
you should change the history to sort of suit anyone's
political goals one way or the other. And then beyond
that these need to be the rules then right, And
this is the part of it that this is where
I think it all falls down. Like I think if
if somebody wanted to you know, well, I mean, you
(08:51):
even look at what's the show that ever? You know,
you look at Hamilton for example, Oh.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
I think the Hamilton and now so there's a great
line in succession, many great lines. But they're having a
meeting to try to pick a Republican presidential contender, and
one of the guys says, yeah, this is the meeting
where you don't have to pretend that you like Hamilton,
which I thought was really funny.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
So I have no question. Did you like Hamilton? I
thought it was okay. I thought I thought it was
honestly boring garbage. And I don't mean that because of
the politics, Like I just thought it wasn't enjoyable to watch.
I wasn't well.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
I've said before my big issue is I don't like musicals.
So I just every time I understand that you can say,
like I'm a cult you know, a lack of cultured
swine here, But every single time that people start to
sing in a musical, I just think to myself, nobody
would ever sing, like, just give me the story. I
(09:49):
like story. I don't like singing stories. I guess you're
an opera guy either. I would never go to the opera. Yeah,
if I were single, the girl would have to be
so incredibly good looking for me to be willing to
go to the opera. And my wife I don't even
think would be willing to try to get me to
go to the opera, because she'd be like, this is
(10:10):
just gonna be such a battle.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
He's gonna fight it the whole way. Yeah, I'm not
an opera guy. I'm not a music guy like you have.
If you have like four hours to kill, the opera
is a great way. So but what I thought almost
immediately was I do.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
I thought it was fine, Like I like the production
aspects of Broadway plays. I went and took my kids
to go see the new Harry Potter like cursing Child.
I thought that was pretty good. Not a musical, by
the way. But if you did a country and western
version of the Obama administration instead of a rap version
of Alexander Hamilton country and Western version of the Obama administration,
(10:49):
and like Garth Brooks played Barack Obama, people would lose
their mind. Now, I think it would actually be really
really funny to do a country in what version of
the Obama administration? And I don't know, you could have
like who is Taylor Swift play Michelle Obama? I don't know,
to the extent you want to count her as a
(11:10):
country artist? People would lose their mind if white people
played Barack and Michelle Obama in a country and Western
version of the Obama administration. If that is true, where
is the line on historical figures, for instance, like Frederick Douglas.
If they've made a bio pick of Frederick Douglas and
(11:32):
they put jo KEM Phoenix into play Frederick to Frederick Douglas,
people would lose their minds. Remember the great that the
movie's really funny Tropic Thunder? Is it Tropic Thunder? Or
Robert Downey Junior plays a black guy.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
I was surprised that they were able to do that,
and there wasn't even more of a pushback, but they
were able to do it.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
It's that's a hysterical movie, and Robert Downey Junior playing
the black guy is really really funny.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
I'm with you.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
I think if the standard, certainly for historical figures, I
think you know you Shakespeare as an example, all races
play Shakespeare because it is such a canonical element of
Western literature that it has been embraced worldwide.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
So you have Hamlet, Yeah, well but there's no there
is no Hamlet really right, like, so you know Hamilt,
but there are you know, like there are was from Denmark,
so we probably you know, he probably was a guy. Probably.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
It's such a member of the historical canon that you know,
all throughout Asia they're doing versions of Hamlet, right, and
so Asian actors everything else. So I think you can
go back far enough where it's such a part of
the canon. What I don't like is this is popular
now on Netflix. Bridgerton, which is clearly set in you know,
(12:50):
seventeen hundred's Jane Austen era. To my knowledge, I haven't
ever watched it England, and people are all of different races. Well,
it has a particular historical setting. When you have people
who are not of those races suddenly there, it takes
me in some way out of the story. I don't
think I was watching zell as Hannibal is going to
(13:11):
take me out of the story.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
I was watching because I find Viking history, the Vikings
are fascinating, and you know, there's been a big surge
in interest in Vikings over the last ten or fifteen years.
That show Travis Himmel was in, You know that that guy,
and there have been a few others. Last The Last Kingdom,
which is on Netflix as a phenomenal series. There have
(13:32):
been a number of but you know the Vikings, you're
going into the eight hundreds and nine hundreds, there was
a Netflix a Viking something or other. I even forget
what it was called. It was like Vikings at war
or Vikings you know, bloody fighting or something. I forget
what it was called. But whatever, But I mean I'm
watching it. In like one or two episodes. In one
of the Viking kings, is a is cast as a
(13:55):
like a king of basically Denmark in the eight hundreds
is a black female. Yeah, And I'm and it's and
it's not that I've like, it's not a problem with
it other than I see here and I say to myself, like,
I mean, we're everything else is historically accurate, right, We're
just gonna We're just gonna do this.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Yeah, they don't suddenly just have somebody driving a car
in the Viking series, right, Like if somebody suddenly it
was like element a motorcycle.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Yeah, well that wasn't authenticity, like like asking me to
suspend some degree disblig I mean, for example, Game of Thrones,
there's a lot of diversity they able they were able
to work in Game of Thrones, but it never actually
felt forced at all. It felt like they brought in
this character, brought in that character. There was nothing in game.
Now that's obviously all a fictional realm of fictional world,
but they were that was a very diverse show, and
they did it very well. I think it's one of
the greatest TV shows actually, you know, of all time
(14:42):
when you really add it all up, even though last
two seasons kind of went off the cliff. But you know,
if you're going to like if you're going to do
George Washington's spir Ring circa seventeen seventy six, and then
all of a sudden there's a character who is from like,
you know, Tokyo who shows up, who's just like, hey, guys,
(15:03):
like I'm just I just happened to be here because
we needed some diversity. Like it's problem.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Well, like if you were doing a movie on D
Day and Dwight Eisenhower was black, I think people would
be like, hey, you know, I think that this is
you know, again some point the historical cannon. Here's a
good way of putting it. What was the movie that
just came out about the African queen, like the tribe
the Fighters, about the Dahomie, the Yes the tribe, the
African tribe best known for enslaving other Africans. In fact, Yes,
(15:30):
the Woman King, Woman King. Yes, Okay, and there's a
you know, star black woman in The Woman King. If
you had done The Woman King and it was a
white chick, like they put Scarlett Johansson in the role
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Back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Our esteemed President
was welcoming the Vegas Golden Knights, that is, the NHL
champion team to the White House yesterday, and Joe Biden
can't even represent a championship team in the White House
without managing to screw up and just say weird things.
Here's about a fifteen second cut where he randomly starts
(17:03):
asking the hockey team not to take away the Philadelphia Eagles.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
Just one promise. I don't get the filled up Eagles
to leave and go because I'll get divorce to find them.
I married a Philly girl and it's a long story.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
I don't know why people are laughing Buck. Vegas has
its own NFL team now, the Vegas Raiders, So I
don't know if Joe Biden's not aware of that. Maybe
this was supposed to be like a relocation joke, but
nobody's trying to get the Philadelphia Eagles to move to
Las Vegas.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Like This is really just kind of weird.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Biden can't even do normal things now to me just
kind of stands out.
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But does he have to do normal things? Well, that's
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playing some different audio for you over the last few
weeks of people who really tend to get it. I mean,
we've been giving Doug Murray some high fives for excellent
analysis of the Israel Hamas war, for example, and and
(19:14):
just seeing through a lot of the nonsense, a lot
of the absurd things that people are saying to try
to create a moral equivalency that is just not it's
not rooted in reality. And you know, I think it's
I think it's important that we also show when there
(19:35):
are people who are aligned with the other side and
won't give straight answers, and we'll engage in some kind
of prevarication, maybe even a little bit of cowardice when
they're pushed. Listen to this. This is so Jeremy Corbyn
is like the far left, most famous far left politician
(19:55):
I think in the UK right now. I mean, he
is like the is he a social I don't follow
UK politics that well, but I know he's the guy's
basically a comedy. I'm trying to pull up his specific
designation right now. He's a member of Parliament, the UK
Leader of the Opposition, leader of the Labor Party from
two twenty fifteen to twenty twenty. So he's he's like
(20:17):
the Nancy Pelosi of the United Kingdom, except an even
bigger communists. And there you have it. Here is Piers
Morgan pushing this guy on. This is such a straightforward question.
Is hamas a terrorist group? Play it?
Speaker 4 (20:34):
Can I have a discussion? Can you call them a terrorists?
Can we have Can you call them a terrorists? Is
it possible to have a rational? Are you prepared to
call Is it possible of a rational? Can you is
it possible?
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Come on? Answer that? Can you answer it? No, it's
my show. You answer my question. Moha masa terra group? Listen?
Speaker 4 (20:53):
Can I are they a terror group? Can I answer
the question? Can I speak? Are they a terror group?
Speaker 2 (21:00):
People?
Speaker 4 (21:01):
If you let me speak, He'll let me speak.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
I'll say something.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
Then a ceasefire means both sides?
Speaker 2 (21:07):
And are they a terror group? Listen? I said that?
Speaker 4 (21:10):
Are the terror group of the process. Are the terri well,
can we why can't you say it?
Speaker 3 (21:16):
Peers?
Speaker 4 (21:17):
Can we go through what ought to be?
Speaker 2 (21:20):
Just answer my question?
Speaker 4 (21:21):
Why do you think are Harmasa terrifers in the world
are calling for a CEASAR terror group? Come a me,
No your show.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
You've got so many opinions. Why should I answer yours
when you want answer mine? It is he is a
yes or no question, and that guy wasn't going to
answer it because if he says yes, he knows that
the far left labor support the thing. When you think
of labor, think of like, you know, the AOC wing
of of the US, I mean, the the most left
(21:51):
wing stuff in the UK. He won't answer because he'll
make them all angry at him. But if he doesn't
say Hamas is a terror group, it's like, oh so
you're okay with them? Awesome what it just did. That's
perfect Appere's Morgan.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
I mean, even though there's obviously conflict is good sometimes
because it is enlightening to reveal what people actually believe.
And I don't think there's anything that you can point
to on the right that would be akin to that right.
I was thinking about this when I watched the clipbuck
In other words, if I went on a television show,
(22:28):
I don't think there's any question I could be asked
that is basic, like that that we all know is
true that someone on the right wouldn't answer. But I
think there are a lot of things that the left
knows are untrue that because of their identity, politics, coalition,
and how corrupt it is, they won't answer. And I'll
(22:50):
give you a good example. There isn't a single person
on the left in this country who can explain why
it is heroic to change your gender, but it's racist
to change your race.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
They can't answer that.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
You could sit down with anybody if Joe Biden would
ever come on this show. I don't think Joe Biden
could even answer. Joe Biden, you've said many times it
is very courageous. Some of the bravest people you know,
even Joe Biden, you said, are kids who decide that
they're a different sex than what they were born.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
You said, that's brave, You said, that's courageous. Why would it.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Be racist for them to decide that they're a different
race than what they were born? To me, you could
ask certain questions that go to the very heart of
what the left claims to stand for in America today
and around the world in many respects in Western democracies,
and they can't speak truthfully.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
This is like at ESPN, buck.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
If most people at ESPN won't say that men shouldn't
compete against women in athletics, they won't say it. They
all know that shouldn't happen. They won't answer it. And
that to me is very illuminating. When you get asked
a question that is very much the essence of what
(24:12):
you believe and you won't answer it.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Honestly, it's a sign of the failure of the party.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
And I think of what it represents is that identity
politics destroys everything that it touches because eventually logic corrupts it.
And I think that clip is fantastic for that reason. Yes,
and if you can't, if you can't answer the most
straightforward questions about a belief that you have that is
(24:38):
passionately held, I think it's worth asking why. And then
we have I mentioned the AOC wing. Here's aoc at
a quote Rabbis for ceasefire rally.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
This is fifteen play it.
Speaker 5 (24:51):
Ceasefire means there is no military solution, only a diplomatic
and cultural solution, national solution, a reckoning with ourselves in
our history.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
That is what cease fire now means. No, there's a
military solution. You're gonna have to kill every member of
Hamas that was involved in this attack and every part
of the leadership. You either imprison them or kill them,
or else you're gonna get hit again. So she's just wrong.
I mean this. I imagine saying, guys, we don't need
to get bin Laden and the al Qaedeze in your leadership,
and we don't need to shut down the training camps.
(25:26):
We need a cultural solution, and we should have a
ceasefire after nine to eleven.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Not only nine to eleven. Imagine right after the we
got bombed at Pearl Harbor. I almost said to Germans
like it was a a great movie back in the
day Animal House. After we got bombed at Pearl Harbor
by Japan. Can you imagine if Franklin Roosevelt had said,
you know, instead of today is a day that will
(25:52):
live in infamy and announced that we will go to
war with Germany and Japan and everybody else. What if
he had just said, hey, you know, yes they just
blew up all of our Pacific fleet and it was
a completely dastardly, unprecedented attack.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
But we just have to turn the other cheek. Japan
isn't our enemy.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
Going to war with the Nazis and the imperialist powers
in Japan is not going to solve anything.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
We should just pretend this never happened.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
I mean, can you imagine where we would be historically?
So I don't even think it's just using nine to eleven.
I think anytime you are the victim of an unprovoked attack,
you have an obligation, a moral responsibility to respond when
evil infringes itself upon the health and safety of your population.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
I mean, you think that these Democrat politicians and pundits
and professors in this country, do you think that they'd
be able to look face to face the families of
the fourteen hundred, including women, children, the elderly babies who
are brutally murdered, and say, you know what we really
(27:10):
need right now a ceasefire. You know, I think that
this is just they're posturing for political reasons here out
of a combination of a few things, a lot of them.
It's under the surface anti semitism, it's a misunderstanding of
this conflict, which is about civilization versus barbarism. It is
not about some dispute over land anymore. And I think
(27:32):
beyond that, they are virtue signaling on the graves of
fourteen hundred dead Israelis. It's appalling what they're doing, pretending
that somehow Israel is not allowed to defend itself. A
cease fire is something that is very short, it is
very temporary usually, and what they want is actually an
(27:57):
immediate cessation of hostilities, effectively a truce. So what they
want is after a mass casualty, terror attack, a sneak attack,
then the fighting stops. I mean, imagine if someone walked
up to you in the bar, punched you in the face,
knocked out your teeth, and broke your nose, and then said,
hold on, let's give piece a chance. That's what they want.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Think about it too from this perspective, Buck, If you're wondering, okay,
some people are just their piece snicks, right Quakers, Quakers
are going to be pretty consistent. They're going to say, hey,
you know what, I don't believe in war. I don't
want to be involved. Do you think any of the
AOC contingent Jamal Bowman, all of that universe that is
(28:38):
defending Hamas and defending Palestine. Do you think if Israel
had invaded the Gaza region and kidnapped hundreds of people
and murdered intentionally over one thousand people, and then the
Israeli soldiers had gone back to Israel and Hamas had
(29:01):
decided that they wanted to respond, do you think that
the aocs of the world and the Rashida ta Leaves
of the world would say, no, we need an immediate
cease fire. A response is not going to solve anything.
The problem they have buck is and this is what
identity politics creates. They can't conceive in their minds of
how brown people because that's how they see it, how
(29:24):
the Palestinians could be the bad guy because they bought
or anti white component of the left wing thinking on
this that overrides everything else that's right. They can't even
concept conceptualize, conceptualize the idea that a minority, a brown
person in this situation could have been the aggressor and
(29:47):
be evil. They can't conceive of basically bought into the
idea that whiteness equals evil.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
And they don't understand all these anti Semites don't understand
that the Jews are Semitic people, yes, meaning from the
area and have been for a long time. And many
of them come from actually what are now Muslim dominated
Arab countries because they were kicked out. It is not
a country full of guys who are you know, full
(30:14):
of people who are all like Jerry Seinfeld. That's what
they don't understand.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
Yeah, and by the way, there are a lot of
Jews out there that don't understand how they're seen, right.
They see themselves as the oppressed, right, the minority, because
historically no one has been more oppressed probably than the
Jewish people throughout the history of humanity. And yet because
many of them are white in appearance, they're the bad guy.
(30:41):
And I think there's a lot of Jewish people out
there listening to the show right now, and certainly a
lot of Jews on the left who are saying, hey,
we were there for you with Black Lives Matter, we
were there for you with trans awareness and LGBTQ and
everything else. We thought we were a part of the team.
And what you're seeing is the team on itself pretty quickly,
and there's an awful lot of people who believe the
(31:04):
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We'll welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show. We
got fights breaking out everywhere, evidently on Capitol Hill Today
we're going to talk with Tim Burchett, who is a
Congressman from Tennessee. He says that Kevin McCarthy's one of
the eight I believe who voted against Kevin McCarthy and
removed him from the speakership. He says that Kevin McCarthy
walked by and elbowed him in the kidney while he
(33:35):
was doing an interview with a news media member. This
is now starting to go viral. We'll find out what
the story is there. Also in the Senate, Mark Wayne
Mullen from Oklahoma challenged a union member to a fight.
We'll play that audio for you in the next hour,
but in the meantime, yesterday Vivek Ramaswami was on the
(33:56):
show with us went after Nicki Haley pretty aggressive. We have,
by the way, extended and offered to Nicky Haley to
come on the show, as we always do.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
I just drop in really quickly here. I have been
kind of thinking that Nikki Haley has been ducking this show,
so I've been making some jokes to that end, and
the team finally pointed out to me randomly she has
been on when I was on honeymoon and when I
was on vacation in Europe with Carrie and Scotland. That
is when she has come on that. Maybe there was
one other time, but like she.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
Really had her on three times. But yeah, to your
point when you said I don't think she's been ducking
the show, I was like, I think I remember her
being on the show several times.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
So I've been on two of the three. I might
have even missed three of the three. I don't remember
talking to her on this show.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
But Nicky Haley on the show might be the equivalent
for you of the fact that Trump gets indicted every
time I go on vacation, Like.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
Oh, yeah, it's so funny. Clay's like, nothing's gonna happen
this Friday, Buck, You've got you got the reins, We'll
be fine, right, And then I get a text at
like one thirty pm Friday, He's like, I'm on the road.
I'm gonna call in. Trump's Kennon indicted. I'm like, I know,
I know.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
Yeah, So that's happened to every I think I've been
out every single time that Trump has been indicted. Just
so you know, maybe the Trump team needs to be
aware of this too. Thursday, they're doing the Patriot Awards
for Fox in Nashville, and I'm going to be doing
events all day with them, so I'm out in the
event that that happens, But I wanted to play. Vivek
went on Chris Cuomo's show yesterday after he went on
(35:19):
with us and really brought the two by four to
Cuomo as well.
Speaker 4 (35:22):
Listen, Nikki Haley keeps kicking your ass in these debates.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
Why going into the left wing media? Give me a
freaking break. You turn on social media. You understand people
watching that debate. I went to New Hampshire.
Speaker 7 (35:36):
People were laughing at the idea of the mainstream media's
coverage of the New York Times columnists and people like
you who belong there with one narrative because you have
some identity politic vision of what you think the leader
of this country jam.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
This country.
Speaker 7 (35:51):
Well, the fact of the matter is you guys have
made a career out of deciding that the America First
Agenda is not the future of this country.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
Kick that out of the Republican Party.
Speaker 7 (36:00):
Put a genteel version that you can control as your
little puppet.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
So American politics looks the way you want it to.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
WHOA and then he also accused him of covering up his.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
Brothers to foremost credit, he said, of course I covered
up for my brother. I gotta say loyalty to family,
can't I can't hate on anybody for that. You stay loyal.
You stay loyal to your family, no doubt.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
And we will talk with Tim Burchett when we come back.
And there are several other stories out there too that
we're going to dive into during the course of the
third hour, including Buck. If you've seen this story out
of Nashville, it's got me fired up. Another story from
my hometown. A Nashville DA led a man free after
he shot into a car full of children.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
Guess what happened.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
Guy out on the street fires again, kills an eighteen
year old college freshman out for job.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
Crazy
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