November 18, 2023 • 37 mins
Dems panic over Biden's weakness. MSNBC's Mike Barnicle says average 45-year-old couldn't do Joe Biden's job. Dems know Biden's not really in charge, the apparatus runs the country. Montage of media comparing Trump to Hitler for using the word "vermin." Trump vermin comment in context. Comparing Trump to Hitler rings particular hollow after Hamas attack on Israel, and leftist support of it. Marvel movies. Denzel Washington to play Hannibal.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of the Klay, Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast. Oh welcome in appreciate all of you
hanging out with us.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Tuesday edition of the program.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
We have got a bevy of stories to dive in
with all of you. Panic continuing to grow around Joe
Biden and the idea that he is actually going to
be the nominee a year from now as he prepares
to turn eighty one years old, and we've got a
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clip of him. He can't even talk to the Vegas
Golden Knights I believe is the name of the NHL
franchise out in Las Vegas. Without sounding like a buffoon,
will play that in a bit, but thesis for you
right off the top, Buck, I think much of the
discussion surrounding the Republican primary has shifted from who's the
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best bet to beat Biden to Biden is so bad?
We just need someone who is willing to be a
fighter against all of the rig job that we know
is going to be in effect and actual electability has
turned into a secondary storyline because Biden is so weak?
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Would you buy that?
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Like if we were talking in November of last year,
right after the midterms, I would have said at this point,
as we get ready for Iowa, the number one argument
that's going to be being made in the Republican primary
is who is the most electable. That is the argument
that Democrats had in twenty twenty as they tried to
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select their nominee to beat Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
It's who can beat Trump.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
I think Biden is so weak Buck that much of
the conversation now is less about who can beat Biden,
because I think a lot of you out there listening
think and agree with me that Trump dessands this. Nikki Hayley,
and I think even Vivak, all of the leading candidates
right now would beat Biden, and so the electability angle
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right now is not center stage as we approach Iowa.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
You buy it well. You can see how they're positioning
this already. There are a couple of different ways they're
approaching the Biden problem, which I think we can call
it the Biden They know it's a challenge. I look
your point about they would all they would all beat
Biden today. I think that that's well taken, but we
(02:37):
have to keep reminding ourselves. The election is almost a
year away, and a lot will change between now and
then the Democrat machine is ruthless, efficient, well oiled, and
sometimes it cheats. So there's going to be stuff going
on that we can't necessarily account for right now. That
all said, there are a couple of things that we've
(02:58):
seen flowed in the last few days. First of all, well,
the replaced Biden stuff is now down to a whimper.
I'm hearing very little of it, and that can change.
It goes in waves, but right now it seems there
was a little bit of a surge of Biden needs
to step down, and it has change for the Democrat
media too. Here's why Biden. Did you see this in
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the New York magazine? This is that big headline on
New York Magazine, President Biden too old, the campaign hard
but still able to govern. Claiming he can't do the
job is just false. That's the headline for this. Jonathan Chase.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Well, and this ties in with MSNBC this morning that
I wanted to make sure we could play because you
are seeing now a pivot from yes Biden is old,
and yes he's decrepit, but actually the truth of the
matter is now it's so funny.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Now.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
The argument is they tried to make this argument on
MSNBC this morning, Joe Biden is actually doing something that
your average forty five year old could not. And let
me just say, I'm forty four, so I am here buck.
Do you think that I could do Joe Biden's job
from a physical and mental perspective?
Speaker 2 (04:11):
I mean you would. You would love being president so
much that I think you would do this show, run
out kick and be president and think that that was fine.
You're you're plays the energizer bunny.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
But so you also do you think that you could
do the physical and mental job of being president of
United State?
Speaker 2 (04:31):
You are forty one? Is that right? I mean Trump
just said last week I'd be a great CIA director. Yeah,
I mean, let's be real. President.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
We are right around we are right around the age
at which this gentleman on MSNBC said, you know, the
forty five year old couldn't do the judge.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Just listen to this.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
This is now the new argument is actually all of
the physical and mental failures that you see on a
daily basis from Joe Biden, that's actually not representative. He's
doing things that the average forty five year old couldn't.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
Let' none of us can comprehend the weight of the
presidency every hour of every day. And as he would
tell you if he were here today, it's amazing how
every country in the world looks to the United States
for help for solutions for just almost anything you can
think of. Every sad day he read every newspaper in
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the country. Read every newspaper in the country about President Biden.
Within the first two paragraphs, they'll point out he's in
his eighties. No kidding, he knows how old he is.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
You couldn't do it. I couldn't do it.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Someone forty five years of age couldn't do what he
does every day, but he does it.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
This is just a liebuck.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
I feel one billion percent confident that I could do
the job that Joe Biden does every day. And I
would ask all of you out there, I would actually
flip this, how many people out there listening to us
right now that are working full time? Could Joe Biden
do your job? Joe Biden couldn't do my job. Joe
Biden couldn't do your job, Book Biden, I don't think
(06:01):
could could do the vast majority of the people listening
to us right now job on a daily basis.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
But you're assessing that based on his energy, cognition, ability
to focus and all that. What I think is so
interesting about the Jonathan Chait headline New York Magazine piece
is that it is I believe, in line with what
I've been saying. This is what scares me. This is
your argument. It is not Biden. It is the Democrat
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apparatus that reigns, and so everybody kind of knows that
the notion that he can still govern. I mean, let's
be honest. If Joe Biden didn't appear before the press,
didn't take what he doesn't do very often anyway, correct
and decided he was going to cut back on his speeches,
what would we really know about what he's doing and
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what decisions he's making versus what the advisors around him,
including very prominent former Obama advisors, include former President Obama himself.
What would we know about who's really calling the shots.
This starts to feel like one of these old medieval
kingdoms where the king is being kept sort of in
the living quarters and people just come out, like the
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mayor of the palace or the queen or whomever, comes
out with pronouncements with his signature on them. You're like, well,
who's actually in charge here? I think they realize Biden's
not really going to be in charge and certainly not
going to stay the full four years, and so that's
all baked in.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Yeah, this is where your argument is that the president
doesn't really matter that much, and that I think is
scary to a lot of people out there listening. That
the apparatus which props up the president allows the government
to effectively be run even if the president himself or
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herself for that matter, isn't physically up to the job.
And there're certainly buck as you've mentioned before, there have
been historical analogies where you could go back and look
and say, oh, someone else was clearly clearly running everything,
and we know that that was going on Woodrow Wilson
back in the day, for instance. But I think this
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is what scares a lot of people is the idea
that it just doesn't even matter who is actually in
charge at all, and that you could be in that situation.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
And I think you're right.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
I think basically implicitly, you're going to start to see
a lot of these arguments, Okay, Joe Biden can't do
the job, but he's still better than Donald Trump would be.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Yeah, because they're really going to be telling everybody that
essentially you're not voting for Biden, the person, you know,
I call it the apparatus around him, and so that
then makes everybody more you know, everyone who's a Democrat,
and more comfortable with the idea. And then you say, well, buck,
(08:56):
but that's only going to work for straight down ticket
Democrats voters. Sure, I think it will. They're going to
do the Trump and we have some of these cuts.
Trump is Hitler. They're already saying this stuff. They're already
making the hilarian comparisons for what Donald Trump says is
does and beyond that in the swing states, I really
(09:17):
just believe they're going to focus on a couple of issues,
threats to democracy, abortion, and then use early voting in
their turnout mechanisms to try to just grind it out
and effectively replay twenty twenty. I think that's the strategy.
I think they're moving toward that clay at some level
because the we're just going to indict this guy and
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tie him up in knots that way, and that will
destroy him. I could be wrong, and the polling suggests
you and I are both wrong on this the current polling,
But I just I don't believe it that's gonna work.
I don't think that's gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
I think a good sign that they're panicked on this
is that they don't want cameras in the courtroom. If
they really thought that Trump on trial was going to
be beneficial, they have no moral compass here. They insisted
on primetime January sixth political hearings and brought in Hollywood
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producers to try to make them as fantastically gripping from
a narrative perspective as they could. If they truly thought
that Trump was going to suffer from being on camera
inside of the courtroom beginning in March, in theory for
those jan six related charges, they would roll in the
(10:30):
most sophisticated camera operation in a courtroom that you have
ever seen. I think implicitly, when you see Jack Smith
and company arguing against their being cameras in the courtroom,
that's because they're recognizing that Trump is winning here. And
I think the bigger the spotlight on the charges that
are being brought against Trump, the more significant he wins.
(10:53):
And I think the calculus on that is clear.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
When the Trump. People are saying, we want cameras.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
And if you really believe that democracy is at stake,
why wouldn't you want as much possible media attention on
this court proceeding as you can possibly get. I think
because the Jack Smith crew recognizes this is going to
look Banana republic esque and Trump is going to become
(11:18):
a martyr for many people out there, and it's a
super negative and that you know. I started off Bucks saying,
I think the storyline has shifted to Biden so weak,
we're not focused on electability. I still think the number
one pivot change in the Republican primary. If the Biden
administration never charges Trump, what does the Republican race look
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like right now? I think Trump is far weaker if
he has never been charged by Biden. And I don't know,
maybe Misu is Asantus or Haley are you know, within
shouting distance right now?
Speaker 2 (11:55):
This is what I was talking about yesterday a little bit,
which is if you look between if you look at
the polls from today and stretch back to the first indictment,
So going back whatever it is, six seven months, I
forget when the first indictment was. Where has Trump lost
a lot of where has he lost a lot of ground?
Where have Trump supported? Where have people that were saying
(12:16):
in June of twenty twenty three, I'm for Trump. What
has the moment been since then, where they've said in
large numbers, Okay, I don't need one person, but where
you can see it in terms of data, they've gone
away from him. Yeah. I just think it has solidified,
the indictments have solidified. Is supported. Is that a controversial
statement to anybody? I think even the Democrats recognize that.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
No.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
I don't think that's controversial at all. I think, look,
there are people out there listening to us right now. Again,
I've said, you know, fifty to fifty electorate in the
Republican primary right now, fifty percent Trump, fifty percent others.
There are many of you out there listening to us
right now who voted Trump in sixteen and in twenty
and prefer NICKI Haley or Rondasantis or Vivek or some
other candidate right now. But the number of people who
(13:03):
since the indictments have happened in June or July in
the summer of twenty twenty three, that have since said
I'm off the Trump train, that we're on the Trump
train before I think is low. Now are some of
those people lobbly?
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Maybe?
Speaker 1 (13:19):
And that's the argument that the DeSantis and the Nikki
Haley camp would make, and they're saying, and we're going
to prove it to you with what happens in the
Iowa caucus where I think they believe Trump is vulnerable,
Is he Well, we're two months out and so far
as I have seen, no poll has shown that Trump
is actually in danger of losing in Iowa. Maybe he is,
(13:41):
and that would certainly be a seismic alteration to the
calculus right now of the race. But so far, those numbers,
if they are there, have not been revealed in any
public poll that I have seen, where Trump has maintained
pretty much consistently a twenty plus point lead in Iowa
from the moment they first started to poll. Take some
of your calls eight hundred and two A two two
eight A two h A lot to discuss as as
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votes start to be cast in the Iowa caucus.
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Speaker 5 (15:25):
To call your opponents and vermin to dehumanize them.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
That's a horrifying clip. That's a fascist clip frequently.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
Used by Nazis to dehumanize Jewish people during the Holocaust.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
The kind of language she was using vermin here echoing autocrafts.
Speaker 5 (15:42):
Echoing Hitler's words, parenting Adolf Hitler and Benito Mussolini.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
It does.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
This is minutop. We were just going full on Hitler talking
about vermin. Look around you, those are the people that
are the vermin, and that is dangerous.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
We're going to have another January sixth if you've got
a bunch of vermin that stole the election.
Speaker 5 (16:04):
This is some truly scary, authoritarian banana republic type stuff.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
I don't know if there's enough hysteria for me right
now from the media about Trump. We need to take
the dial beyond ten. It needs to go to eleven.
We need to add eleven on the dial because I mean,
that's not enough. Trump is Hitler talk for the last
twenty four hours. They need to kick it up a notch.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
I thought that their difficulty of the Hitler Buck would
after we had an actual Holocaust like attack, and many
Democrats defended the people who did it. I thought that
the idea of calling Trump Hitler would be passe.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Evidently I'm wrong. They're just going to go back to
the same playbook. This is going to be what they
do in the and we can get into some of
the specific analyzes of this as well as we'll play
for you when we come back. The Trump used the
word vermin, and they're like, oh my gosh, you know,
and acceptable clay they call us meaning the right, Nazis,
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white supremacists, threats to democracy, and of the republic, domestic terrorists.
I can't even I can't even think of all the
things they say. And Trump refers to communists in our
midst as as vermin, and they're like, he's the Hitler.
He's not. We just hung out with him. I promise
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he's not Hitler. Libs, calm down, you know, he just
got off the golf course. He's a nice guy.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Did Hitler have a lot of Jewish grandchildren? I may
have missed that part of Hitler's biography. Did Hitler have
a Jewish daughter?
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Again? I definitely did not move the embassy to Jerusalem.
I mean there are a few. Hitler did not have
his senior advisors making deals for the State of Israel
that previous administrations couldn't try to perpetuate peace.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Yeah, did Hitler say that the enemies of Israel should
be wiped off the map? I just I'm sorry. I
maybe I've missed that. I have not studied Hitler that well.
I need to spend more time in history class. This
is also We'll talk about it when we come back.
But it is their roadmap, it is their game plan.
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hanging out with us. Fuck, I'm so fired up about this.
(19:10):
Trump is Hitler's names, I really thought, and you can say, Clay,
you're an imbecile, You're an idiot, you should have known better,
you moron, All those things would be very valid. I
really thought. When Hamas attacked twelve hundred and thirteen hundred
whatever the number ends up being innocent, Israeli's murdered them,
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and then a bunch of Democrat congressmen and women came
out and defended Hamas. They're still doing it, demanding a
cease fire. There's no way that they can support Israel's response.
I thought to myself, there's no way they can call
Trump Hitler. In fact, a Wednesday of last week, six
days ago, we were at mar A Lago, and many
(19:53):
of you out there listening right now will remember I
specifically asked Trump about his response to October seventh and
what he thought, not as the former president of the
United States and potentially the future president of the United States,
but as a grandfather of Jewish grandchildren and someone with
a Jewish daughter. Now, Avanka Trumps has converted changed her
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religious affiliation. So because the bloodline for people out there
who don't know, tens runs in the Jewish faith through
the woman, and so her kids are all being raised Jewish,
she's now Jewish as well.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
She's converted. The idea twenty three and meter. By the way,
I am fifteen percent Afghanizing Jewish. Oh is that true? Yes?
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Now is it on your mother's side or your father's side?
Do you know, so you're Jewish partially?
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (20:43):
No, no, for purposes of the Jewish faith that runs
through the mother's bloodline. I became an expert on this
when I went to GW which back in the day
was like, you know, my.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Great grandmother on one side was Jewish, that I am Jewish.
I think that would be the case.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Right.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Well, then Mazeltov.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Okay, well, I mean right, I mean there are many
people you can call us and if you are an
expert in how the Jewish faith has passed. But I
believe if you have a woman in your background who
would have been Jewish, that it would have kept passing
through the female line and you would be able to
consider yourself to be Jewish as we are speaking today.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
I think that's true.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Somebody can call in and tell me if I'm wrong.
And the reason why I knew this buck is because
I was. I'm not Jewish, but I may have dated
Jewish girls at GW and the many people out there
who want to. Jewish guys are held to sometimes a
different standard about who they marry because the question is, okay,
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are the kids going to be Jewish or not? And
if the girl is Jewish, then the kids are Jewish anyway.
So that's my understanding. But the idea that you would
be and obviously people convert all the time, and there
are lots of different ways that also people can become
members of the Jewish faith all those things. But and
unlike Democrats, we're actually defending Israel's right to defend its people.
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The idea that you could while many Democrats are still
out there defending Hamas, while there are protests all around
the world arguing that Palestine should be free from the
river to the sea, when there are university campuses where
Jewish students don't feel comfortable, when there are many places
in the United States where Jewish people feel very uncomfortable
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right now, when they're going to synagogue or when they're
just going about their day to day existence. The idea
that you could accuse Trump of being Hitler like is
so foreign to any realm of rational thought. I would
actually love to hear from our Jewish listeners right now,
when you hear an attack like that, you may have
(22:58):
even been willing to at some point accept it in
the past. Doesn't it ring particularly hollow in this universe
in which we are living right now, when the biggest
attack upon Jews since the Holocaust just happened, and when
many Democrats have lined up to support Palestine and Hamas
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and argue that Israel does not have the right.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
To defend itself.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Of all the times to attack Trump and say he
is Hitler like, I'm not sure there has ever been
a less apropos moment. Given the historical context than right now.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Can we play this is what has gotten the media
into their Trump is Hitler news cycle. It's there in
the midst of right now, and it is where he
made the vermin. He made a comment about vermin. Can
we play this guy's play it?
Speaker 4 (23:49):
With your help, your love, and your vote, we will
put America first, and today, especially in honor of our
great veterans, on Veterans' Day, we pledged to you that
we will root out the communists, Marxist fascists, and the
radical left thugs that live like vermin within the confines
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of our country, that lie and steal and cheat on
elections and will do anything possible. They'll do anything, whether
legally or illegally, to destroy America and to destroy the
American dream.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
The real threat.
Speaker 4 (24:27):
Is not from the radical right. The real threat is
from the radical left, and it's growing every day, every
single day. The threat from outside forces is far less sinister, dangerous,
and grave than the threat from within.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
I just also don't know if I really want to
get lectured about overheated political rhetoric from a Democrat party
that I remember under this president, and this president was
saying it was accusing you of being a murderer if
you wouldn't get a shot that was entirely worthless for
stopping the spread of a virus that we now know
was actually at that point not a big deal.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
I agree with everything Trump just said in that statement.
I think it was actually very well said. I mean,
the biggest threat to America right now is internal. There
are people trying to destroy actively on the left in
this country, trying to destroy the very fabric of American life.
I don't even like sometimes there are things that people
(25:23):
say and I'm like, hmm, that could be a little
bit controversial. I can see why people would react in
that manner or method to it. There's nothing that Trump
said that I disagree with in that statement. I don't
even think most of you out there listening, regardless of
who you are supporting in the twenty twenty four primary,
would listen to that and say, Okay, that's like particularly inflammatory.
(25:44):
And again I would just point out, and I would
love to hear from our Jewish listeners about how this
registers with them. How in the world do you accuse
someone of being hitler like when there are legitimate elements
of the left in this country calling for the extermination
of Jews.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
It is the Democrat Party, I mean to the point
you're making, It is the Democrat Party that provides safe harbor,
including in the United States Congress, for people who are
supportive of and make common calls with Hamas. That is
what is going on right now. That is what we
have seen. It is the Democrat Party. It is young
Democrats on college campuses who are marching around in solidarity
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with Hamas after the worst terrorist attack the world has
seen since nine to eleven. That is what just occurred.
It is the worst single terror attack since nine to eleven,
conducted by barbarians as part of this Hamas terrorist entity.
And you have college kids marching around acting like their
freedom fighters. You know, it's like George Washington, just a
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little different. They're idiots.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
At my university, they'd said support for the martyrs on
the campus library wall.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
They've done that in a few places, which was built.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
By Holocaust survivors. That's who gave the money. And can
you even point there's a challenge to everybody out there.
Can you even point to a Republican officeholder who has
in any way endorsed Hamas or suggested that Israel doesn't
have the right to defend itself. I haven't seen a
single Republican. We just had the debate on Wednesday uniformly.
(27:24):
I thought that the responses to questions relating to Israel
were phenomenal from every Republican candidate on the stage. I
can't point to someone who's run for statewide office or
holds a prominent elected office in the United States right
now who's a Republican that has said anything other than
Israel has the right to defend itself and should wipe
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Hamas off the face of the earth based on the
terror attack that they were just.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
A victim of.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
I haven't seen anybody so all of the time, I
thought that Trump as Hitler comparisons were absurd and didn't
really land of all the times to make them. I
would think again, open phone lines eight hundred and two
A two two eight A two. If you are Jewish
and you are listening to us right now, what does
it say that the left in the media right now
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is not calling anyone who is defending Hamas modern day
versions of Hitler. They're calling Donald Trump modern day version
of Hitler because he wants to root out people trying
to destroy America from the inside.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Here, this is cut this is cut nine. In his
CNN's Caitlin Collins sounding the alarm over Trump's hitlary and verbiage,
play nine.
Speaker 5 (28:35):
It's language that echoes that of Hitler and Mussolini. But tonight,
Donald Trump's campaign is defending how he called his political
opponent's vermin. Trump appears to be breeding from the prompter,
not ad libbing those remarks where he vowed to root
out his political opponents like Vermin. He also posted the
same language on social media, making it clear he meant it, Oh.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
No, oh gosh, we ever do at it. We're gonna
go through. This is gonna be a whole thing, a
whole thing.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
But I don't think I don't think it registers, buck,
this is my thing. Like, I don't think this at
this particular point in time. I don't think there's anyone
with a functional brain that buys into this.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
It doesn't register. Now, wait till all the networks and
all the late night shows and you know, everybody, all
of a sudden, and the Democrat apparatus is running January
six footage constantly, and Trump walking in and out of
jev of Court constantly. And I don't know. I just
I hope you're right. I mean, right now. To me,
it just seems it seems pathetic. But is that enough?
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Speaker 2 (31:04):
Welcome back into Clay and Bach. We were talking about
Biden at the top here and top of the hour.
We'll get into some more politics in the next hour,
including a few things Clay one is I don't think
we got into how the Marvel movie has a Marvel's
has bombed, which we should discuss a little bit. Yes,
worst opening for a Marvel movie ever, and this one
(31:27):
was particularly woke. I think a lot of like women
leads or something in it. How many Marvel movies have
you seen, oh like less than three? I think, I
mean very few I grew I mean I grew up
reading comic books. Yeah, I just think most of the
Marvel Universe movies are just CGI headaches. I'll just be honest.
I just think there's no there's no story, there's no writing.
(31:47):
It's all just like like Aliens flying around New York
City going into buildings while Hulk is like smash and
you know, I don't know, it's nothing. I've seen almost all.
We'll get into this.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
I have.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
I have pissed off like half the planet. That's okay.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
The boys, I mean when you have young kids, kid,
I probably like them. Ye, yes, I've seen every pretty
much Marvel movie. I like some superhero movies. Well, so
to be fair, if you're talking about iron Man, like
the original Iron Man movie, I thought it was a
good movie.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
Like I enjoyed that. I like the Dark Knight and
the Christian Bale. I like the original Batman. I'm a
superhero guy. I just think the Marvel Universe turned into it.
It's just too many and there's like no story and
it's too much CGI. I'm just saying, as you know,
crumpy old man Buck is on his lawn and he's
telling Hulk and four to get off his lawn. That's
(32:36):
all I'm saying. They probably will not listen to me.
Then there's something else too. You see that they've cast
Denzel Washington as Hannibal in a Netflix movie. Now, I've
been wondering when somebody the Second Punic War is one
of the most amazing stories in all of military history. Okay,
(32:58):
Hannibal Barka with a blood oath from childhood, leads this army,
starts in Spain, goes up through the Alps, comes down.
People are talking about the elephants. Basically all the elephants died.
But you have to read Livy's history of Hannibal's War
in order to know this stuff. But they comes down
and just kicks the Romans butts at Lake Trasimani and
(33:19):
Kenny and all these other player Kenna people say different ways,
and is arguably the greatest general of all time. I
mean it's him Napoleon, who also has a movie coming
out of Ridley Scott which looks really good, looks amazing.
I will I will actually sit in a theater with
other people to see that movie, which is very rare
for me. What does that movie come out? Is it Thanksgiving?
(33:42):
I don't know. I think soon ish. I've seen a
lot of press for it. I'm actually excited to watch
that movie. I think Riley Phoenix is Phoenix is going
to be clearly a weirdo, but a very very talented actor.
A lot of very talented actors are so Hannibal is
one of the greatest generals of all time. They've cast
Denzel Washington to play Hannibal. Now now people are getting
into this little bit. Denzel Washington, for me, is one
(34:05):
of the best actors of his generation to five actor
of his generation period, full stop, one of the best
actors living today. So it's not that Denzel Washington would
not do a phenomenal job. He's a phenomenal actor. Fine,
but people are getting into Okay, does it matter as
a matter of historical accuratey if you're looking at historical
accuracy that while the city of Carthage was in North Africa,
(34:29):
they are descendants. It was essentially a colony of Phoenicians.
Phoenicians come from what is currently the Levant, which would
be Israel, Lebanon, Syria, that area. So it was a
Phoenician city even founded before ancient Rome was It is
not because people think of North Africa, and I think
they think, oh Africa, it's it's not sub Saharan Africa.
(34:50):
So basically Hannibal, white guy. Hannibal would have looked like
a Mediterranean Eastern Mediterranean perhaps white guy. Yes, that that
is what that is the same. By the way, people
talked about this with Cleopatra when the Cleopatra movie came
out as well, Yeah, they said, all, well, she lives
in Egypt. No, she wouldn't have even an Arab at
that time. It was a Greek colony. The Greek said,
(35:12):
people have no knowledge of the Mediterranean and its history whatsoever.
I actually find it a fascinating period.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
So I need to re I'm fascinated by it too.
Your knowledge. I'm not like a Civil War history nerd.
I need to study more on on this. So I
don't have a problem with actors playing people that if
they are incredibly talented actors, that they may not represent
perfectly from a racial dynamic, right, But I think it
(35:42):
has to be consistent. And you can well imagine who's
a famous.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
Uh you had a Okay, Washington played Malcolm X phenomenally.
It was he was probably should have gotten the oscar
for that. But anyway, he was phenomenal in Malcolm. Yes,
if you had not, even if you had like an
a super talented you know, Asian American guy play Malcolm X,
people would completely lose their minds. Correct, Now that's a
(36:10):
more recent history. This is such a good conversation. I think.
Let me say this.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
I went and saw Denzel Washington on a Broadway play
and it was I don't even remember what the play was.
I'm such a Denzel fan that my wife just was like,
I think you're gonna think this is badass, Like, let's
go see this play. I can't believe how talented he
is in a Broadway play.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Just I mean, he's amazing. But here's the thing. I'm
fine if the rules are we don't care, and anyone
can play anyone because it's all make believe anyway. Fine, yes,
those have to be the rules. It can't be historical
accuracy doesn't matter for wokeness purposes. But well, and other things.
You know, you can't have some other guy, you know,
(36:53):
you have to do this.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
It's a good let's have a conversation about this when
it comes back. Does it matter how old it is
as a part of the analysis, because I could get
good
Welcome to today's edition of the Klay, Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast. Oh welcome in appreciate all of you
hanging out with us.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Tuesday edition of the program.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
We have got a bevy of stories to dive in
with all of you. Panic continuing to grow around Joe
Biden and the idea that he is actually going to
be the nominee a year from now as he prepares
to turn eighty one years old, and we've got a
(00:33):
clip of him. He can't even talk to the Vegas
Golden Knights I believe is the name of the NHL
franchise out in Las Vegas. Without sounding like a buffoon,
will play that in a bit, but thesis for you
right off the top, Buck, I think much of the
discussion surrounding the Republican primary has shifted from who's the
(00:56):
best bet to beat Biden to Biden is so bad?
We just need someone who is willing to be a
fighter against all of the rig job that we know
is going to be in effect and actual electability has
turned into a secondary storyline because Biden is so weak?
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Would you buy that?
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Like if we were talking in November of last year,
right after the midterms, I would have said at this point,
as we get ready for Iowa, the number one argument
that's going to be being made in the Republican primary
is who is the most electable. That is the argument
that Democrats had in twenty twenty as they tried to
(01:41):
select their nominee to beat Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
It's who can beat Trump.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
I think Biden is so weak Buck that much of
the conversation now is less about who can beat Biden,
because I think a lot of you out there listening
think and agree with me that Trump dessands this. Nikki Hayley,
and I think even Vivak, all of the leading candidates
right now would beat Biden, and so the electability angle
(02:09):
right now is not center stage as we approach Iowa.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
You buy it well. You can see how they're positioning
this already. There are a couple of different ways they're
approaching the Biden problem, which I think we can call
it the Biden They know it's a challenge. I look
your point about they would all they would all beat
Biden today. I think that that's well taken, but we
(02:37):
have to keep reminding ourselves. The election is almost a
year away, and a lot will change between now and
then the Democrat machine is ruthless, efficient, well oiled, and
sometimes it cheats. So there's going to be stuff going
on that we can't necessarily account for right now. That
all said, there are a couple of things that we've
(02:58):
seen flowed in the last few days. First of all, well,
the replaced Biden stuff is now down to a whimper.
I'm hearing very little of it, and that can change.
It goes in waves, but right now it seems there
was a little bit of a surge of Biden needs
to step down, and it has change for the Democrat
media too. Here's why Biden. Did you see this in
(03:20):
the New York magazine? This is that big headline on
New York Magazine, President Biden too old, the campaign hard
but still able to govern. Claiming he can't do the
job is just false. That's the headline for this. Jonathan Chase.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Well, and this ties in with MSNBC this morning that
I wanted to make sure we could play because you
are seeing now a pivot from yes Biden is old,
and yes he's decrepit, but actually the truth of the
matter is now it's so funny.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Now.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
The argument is they tried to make this argument on
MSNBC this morning, Joe Biden is actually doing something that
your average forty five year old could not. And let
me just say, I'm forty four, so I am here buck.
Do you think that I could do Joe Biden's job
from a physical and mental perspective?
Speaker 2 (04:11):
I mean you would. You would love being president so
much that I think you would do this show, run
out kick and be president and think that that was fine.
You're you're plays the energizer bunny.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
But so you also do you think that you could
do the physical and mental job of being president of
United State?
Speaker 2 (04:31):
You are forty one? Is that right? I mean Trump
just said last week I'd be a great CIA director. Yeah,
I mean, let's be real. President.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
We are right around we are right around the age
at which this gentleman on MSNBC said, you know, the
forty five year old couldn't do the judge.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Just listen to this.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
This is now the new argument is actually all of
the physical and mental failures that you see on a
daily basis from Joe Biden, that's actually not representative. He's
doing things that the average forty five year old couldn't.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
Let' none of us can comprehend the weight of the
presidency every hour of every day. And as he would
tell you if he were here today, it's amazing how
every country in the world looks to the United States
for help for solutions for just almost anything you can
think of. Every sad day he read every newspaper in
(05:21):
the country. Read every newspaper in the country about President Biden.
Within the first two paragraphs, they'll point out he's in
his eighties. No kidding, he knows how old he is.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
You couldn't do it. I couldn't do it.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Someone forty five years of age couldn't do what he
does every day, but he does it.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
This is just a liebuck.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
I feel one billion percent confident that I could do
the job that Joe Biden does every day. And I
would ask all of you out there, I would actually
flip this, how many people out there listening to us
right now that are working full time? Could Joe Biden
do your job? Joe Biden couldn't do my job. Joe
Biden couldn't do your job, Book Biden, I don't think
(06:01):
could could do the vast majority of the people listening
to us right now job on a daily basis.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
But you're assessing that based on his energy, cognition, ability
to focus and all that. What I think is so
interesting about the Jonathan Chait headline New York Magazine piece
is that it is I believe, in line with what
I've been saying. This is what scares me. This is
your argument. It is not Biden. It is the Democrat
(06:30):
apparatus that reigns, and so everybody kind of knows that
the notion that he can still govern. I mean, let's
be honest. If Joe Biden didn't appear before the press,
didn't take what he doesn't do very often anyway, correct
and decided he was going to cut back on his speeches,
what would we really know about what he's doing and
(06:51):
what decisions he's making versus what the advisors around him,
including very prominent former Obama advisors, include former President Obama himself.
What would we know about who's really calling the shots.
This starts to feel like one of these old medieval
kingdoms where the king is being kept sort of in
the living quarters and people just come out, like the
(07:14):
mayor of the palace or the queen or whomever, comes
out with pronouncements with his signature on them. You're like, well,
who's actually in charge here? I think they realize Biden's
not really going to be in charge and certainly not
going to stay the full four years, and so that's
all baked in.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Yeah, this is where your argument is that the president
doesn't really matter that much, and that I think is
scary to a lot of people out there listening. That
the apparatus which props up the president allows the government
to effectively be run even if the president himself or
(07:51):
herself for that matter, isn't physically up to the job.
And there're certainly buck as you've mentioned before, there have
been historical analogies where you could go back and look
and say, oh, someone else was clearly clearly running everything,
and we know that that was going on Woodrow Wilson
back in the day, for instance. But I think this
(08:13):
is what scares a lot of people is the idea
that it just doesn't even matter who is actually in
charge at all, and that you could be in that situation.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
And I think you're right.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
I think basically implicitly, you're going to start to see
a lot of these arguments, Okay, Joe Biden can't do
the job, but he's still better than Donald Trump would be.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Yeah, because they're really going to be telling everybody that
essentially you're not voting for Biden, the person, you know,
I call it the apparatus around him, and so that
then makes everybody more you know, everyone who's a Democrat,
and more comfortable with the idea. And then you say, well, buck,
(08:56):
but that's only going to work for straight down ticket
Democrats voters. Sure, I think it will. They're going to
do the Trump and we have some of these cuts.
Trump is Hitler. They're already saying this stuff. They're already
making the hilarian comparisons for what Donald Trump says is
does and beyond that in the swing states, I really
(09:17):
just believe they're going to focus on a couple of issues,
threats to democracy, abortion, and then use early voting in
their turnout mechanisms to try to just grind it out
and effectively replay twenty twenty. I think that's the strategy.
I think they're moving toward that clay at some level
because the we're just going to indict this guy and
(09:37):
tie him up in knots that way, and that will
destroy him. I could be wrong, and the polling suggests
you and I are both wrong on this the current polling,
But I just I don't believe it that's gonna work.
I don't think that's gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
I think a good sign that they're panicked on this
is that they don't want cameras in the courtroom. If
they really thought that Trump on trial was going to
be beneficial, they have no moral compass here. They insisted
on primetime January sixth political hearings and brought in Hollywood
(10:09):
producers to try to make them as fantastically gripping from
a narrative perspective as they could. If they truly thought
that Trump was going to suffer from being on camera
inside of the courtroom beginning in March, in theory for
those jan six related charges, they would roll in the
(10:30):
most sophisticated camera operation in a courtroom that you have
ever seen. I think implicitly, when you see Jack Smith
and company arguing against their being cameras in the courtroom,
that's because they're recognizing that Trump is winning here. And
I think the bigger the spotlight on the charges that
are being brought against Trump, the more significant he wins.
(10:53):
And I think the calculus on that is clear.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
When the Trump. People are saying, we want cameras.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
And if you really believe that democracy is at stake,
why wouldn't you want as much possible media attention on
this court proceeding as you can possibly get. I think
because the Jack Smith crew recognizes this is going to
look Banana republic esque and Trump is going to become
(11:18):
a martyr for many people out there, and it's a
super negative and that you know. I started off Bucks saying,
I think the storyline has shifted to Biden so weak,
we're not focused on electability. I still think the number
one pivot change in the Republican primary. If the Biden
administration never charges Trump, what does the Republican race look
(11:43):
like right now? I think Trump is far weaker if
he has never been charged by Biden. And I don't know,
maybe Misu is Asantus or Haley are you know, within
shouting distance right now?
Speaker 2 (11:55):
This is what I was talking about yesterday a little bit,
which is if you look between if you look at
the polls from today and stretch back to the first indictment,
So going back whatever it is, six seven months, I
forget when the first indictment was. Where has Trump lost
a lot of where has he lost a lot of ground?
Where have Trump supported? Where have people that were saying
(12:16):
in June of twenty twenty three, I'm for Trump. What
has the moment been since then, where they've said in
large numbers, Okay, I don't need one person, but where
you can see it in terms of data, they've gone
away from him. Yeah. I just think it has solidified,
the indictments have solidified. Is supported. Is that a controversial
statement to anybody? I think even the Democrats recognize that.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
No.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
I don't think that's controversial at all. I think, look,
there are people out there listening to us right now. Again,
I've said, you know, fifty to fifty electorate in the
Republican primary right now, fifty percent Trump, fifty percent others.
There are many of you out there listening to us
right now who voted Trump in sixteen and in twenty
and prefer NICKI Haley or Rondasantis or Vivek or some
other candidate right now. But the number of people who
(13:03):
since the indictments have happened in June or July in
the summer of twenty twenty three, that have since said
I'm off the Trump train, that we're on the Trump
train before I think is low. Now are some of
those people lobbly?
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Maybe?
Speaker 1 (13:19):
And that's the argument that the DeSantis and the Nikki
Haley camp would make, and they're saying, and we're going
to prove it to you with what happens in the
Iowa caucus where I think they believe Trump is vulnerable,
Is he Well, we're two months out and so far
as I have seen, no poll has shown that Trump
is actually in danger of losing in Iowa. Maybe he is,
(13:41):
and that would certainly be a seismic alteration to the
calculus right now of the race. But so far, those numbers,
if they are there, have not been revealed in any
public poll that I have seen, where Trump has maintained
pretty much consistently a twenty plus point lead in Iowa
from the moment they first started to poll. Take some
of your calls eight hundred and two A two two
eight A two h A lot to discuss as as
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To call your opponents and vermin to dehumanize them.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
That's a horrifying clip. That's a fascist clip frequently.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
Used by Nazis to dehumanize Jewish people during the Holocaust.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
The kind of language she was using vermin here echoing autocrafts.
Speaker 5 (15:42):
Echoing Hitler's words, parenting Adolf Hitler and Benito Mussolini.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
It does.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
This is minutop. We were just going full on Hitler talking
about vermin. Look around you, those are the people that
are the vermin, and that is dangerous.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
We're going to have another January sixth if you've got
a bunch of vermin that stole the election.
Speaker 5 (16:04):
This is some truly scary, authoritarian banana republic type stuff.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
I don't know if there's enough hysteria for me right
now from the media about Trump. We need to take
the dial beyond ten. It needs to go to eleven.
We need to add eleven on the dial because I mean,
that's not enough. Trump is Hitler talk for the last
twenty four hours. They need to kick it up a notch.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
I thought that their difficulty of the Hitler Buck would
after we had an actual Holocaust like attack, and many
Democrats defended the people who did it. I thought that
the idea of calling Trump Hitler would be passe.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Evidently I'm wrong. They're just going to go back to
the same playbook. This is going to be what they
do in the and we can get into some of
the specific analyzes of this as well as we'll play
for you when we come back. The Trump used the
word vermin, and they're like, oh my gosh, you know,
and acceptable clay they call us meaning the right, Nazis,
(17:01):
white supremacists, threats to democracy, and of the republic, domestic terrorists.
I can't even I can't even think of all the
things they say. And Trump refers to communists in our
midst as as vermin, and they're like, he's the Hitler.
He's not. We just hung out with him. I promise
(17:22):
he's not Hitler. Libs, calm down, you know, he just
got off the golf course. He's a nice guy.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Did Hitler have a lot of Jewish grandchildren? I may
have missed that part of Hitler's biography. Did Hitler have
a Jewish daughter?
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Again? I definitely did not move the embassy to Jerusalem.
I mean there are a few. Hitler did not have
his senior advisors making deals for the State of Israel
that previous administrations couldn't try to perpetuate peace.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Yeah, did Hitler say that the enemies of Israel should
be wiped off the map? I just I'm sorry. I
maybe I've missed that. I have not studied Hitler that well.
I need to spend more time in history class. This
is also We'll talk about it when we come back.
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Trump is Hitler's names, I really thought, and you can say, Clay,
you're an imbecile, You're an idiot, you should have known better,
you moron, All those things would be very valid. I
really thought. When Hamas attacked twelve hundred and thirteen hundred
whatever the number ends up being innocent, Israeli's murdered them,
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and then a bunch of Democrat congressmen and women came
out and defended Hamas. They're still doing it, demanding a
cease fire. There's no way that they can support Israel's response.
I thought to myself, there's no way they can call
Trump Hitler. In fact, a Wednesday of last week, six
days ago, we were at mar A Lago, and many
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of you out there listening right now will remember I
specifically asked Trump about his response to October seventh and
what he thought, not as the former president of the
United States and potentially the future president of the United States,
but as a grandfather of Jewish grandchildren and someone with
a Jewish daughter. Now, Avanka Trumps has converted changed her
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religious affiliation. So because the bloodline for people out there
who don't know, tens runs in the Jewish faith through
the woman, and so her kids are all being raised Jewish,
she's now Jewish as well.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
She's converted. The idea twenty three and meter. By the way,
I am fifteen percent Afghanizing Jewish. Oh is that true? Yes?
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Now is it on your mother's side or your father's side?
Do you know, so you're Jewish partially?
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (20:43):
No, no, for purposes of the Jewish faith that runs
through the mother's bloodline. I became an expert on this
when I went to GW which back in the day
was like, you know, my.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Great grandmother on one side was Jewish, that I am Jewish.
I think that would be the case.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Right.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Well, then Mazeltov.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Okay, well, I mean right, I mean there are many
people you can call us and if you are an
expert in how the Jewish faith has passed. But I
believe if you have a woman in your background who
would have been Jewish, that it would have kept passing
through the female line and you would be able to
consider yourself to be Jewish as we are speaking today.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
I think that's true.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Somebody can call in and tell me if I'm wrong.
And the reason why I knew this buck is because
I was. I'm not Jewish, but I may have dated
Jewish girls at GW and the many people out there
who want to. Jewish guys are held to sometimes a
different standard about who they marry because the question is, okay,
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are the kids going to be Jewish or not? And
if the girl is Jewish, then the kids are Jewish anyway.
So that's my understanding. But the idea that you would
be and obviously people convert all the time, and there
are lots of different ways that also people can become
members of the Jewish faith all those things. But and
unlike Democrats, we're actually defending Israel's right to defend its people.
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The idea that you could while many Democrats are still
out there defending Hamas, while there are protests all around
the world arguing that Palestine should be free from the
river to the sea, when there are university campuses where
Jewish students don't feel comfortable, when there are many places
in the United States where Jewish people feel very uncomfortable
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right now, when they're going to synagogue or when they're
just going about their day to day existence. The idea
that you could accuse Trump of being Hitler like is
so foreign to any realm of rational thought. I would
actually love to hear from our Jewish listeners right now,
when you hear an attack like that, you may have
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even been willing to at some point accept it in
the past. Doesn't it ring particularly hollow in this universe
in which we are living right now, when the biggest
attack upon Jews since the Holocaust just happened, and when
many Democrats have lined up to support Palestine and Hamas
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and argue that Israel does not have the right.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
To defend itself.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Of all the times to attack Trump and say he
is Hitler like, I'm not sure there has ever been
a less apropos moment. Given the historical context than right now.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Can we play this is what has gotten the media
into their Trump is Hitler news cycle. It's there in
the midst of right now, and it is where he
made the vermin. He made a comment about vermin. Can
we play this guy's play it?
Speaker 4 (23:49):
With your help, your love, and your vote, we will
put America first, and today, especially in honor of our
great veterans, on Veterans' Day, we pledged to you that
we will root out the communists, Marxist fascists, and the
radical left thugs that live like vermin within the confines
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of our country, that lie and steal and cheat on
elections and will do anything possible. They'll do anything, whether
legally or illegally, to destroy America and to destroy the
American dream.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
The real threat.
Speaker 4 (24:27):
Is not from the radical right. The real threat is
from the radical left, and it's growing every day, every
single day. The threat from outside forces is far less sinister, dangerous,
and grave than the threat from within.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
I just also don't know if I really want to
get lectured about overheated political rhetoric from a Democrat party
that I remember under this president, and this president was
saying it was accusing you of being a murderer if
you wouldn't get a shot that was entirely worthless for
stopping the spread of a virus that we now know
was actually at that point not a big deal.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
I agree with everything Trump just said in that statement.
I think it was actually very well said. I mean,
the biggest threat to America right now is internal. There
are people trying to destroy actively on the left in
this country, trying to destroy the very fabric of American life.
I don't even like sometimes there are things that people
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say and I'm like, hmm, that could be a little
bit controversial. I can see why people would react in
that manner or method to it. There's nothing that Trump
said that I disagree with in that statement. I don't
even think most of you out there listening, regardless of
who you are supporting in the twenty twenty four primary,
would listen to that and say, Okay, that's like particularly inflammatory.
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And again I would just point out, and I would
love to hear from our Jewish listeners about how this
registers with them. How in the world do you accuse
someone of being hitler like when there are legitimate elements
of the left in this country calling for the extermination
of Jews.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
It is the Democrat Party, I mean to the point
you're making, It is the Democrat Party that provides safe harbor,
including in the United States Congress, for people who are
supportive of and make common calls with Hamas. That is
what is going on right now. That is what we
have seen. It is the Democrat Party. It is young
Democrats on college campuses who are marching around in solidarity
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with Hamas after the worst terrorist attack the world has
seen since nine to eleven. That is what just occurred.
It is the worst single terror attack since nine to eleven,
conducted by barbarians as part of this Hamas terrorist entity.
And you have college kids marching around acting like their
freedom fighters. You know, it's like George Washington, just a
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little different. They're idiots.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
At my university, they'd said support for the martyrs on
the campus library wall.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
They've done that in a few places, which was built.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
By Holocaust survivors. That's who gave the money. And can
you even point there's a challenge to everybody out there.
Can you even point to a Republican officeholder who has
in any way endorsed Hamas or suggested that Israel doesn't
have the right to defend itself. I haven't seen a
single Republican. We just had the debate on Wednesday uniformly.
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I thought that the responses to questions relating to Israel
were phenomenal from every Republican candidate on the stage. I
can't point to someone who's run for statewide office or
holds a prominent elected office in the United States right
now who's a Republican that has said anything other than
Israel has the right to defend itself and should wipe
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Hamas off the face of the earth based on the
terror attack that they were just.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
A victim of.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
I haven't seen anybody so all of the time, I
thought that Trump as Hitler comparisons were absurd and didn't
really land of all the times to make them. I
would think again, open phone lines eight hundred and two
A two two eight A two. If you are Jewish
and you are listening to us right now, what does
it say that the left in the media right now
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is not calling anyone who is defending Hamas modern day
versions of Hitler. They're calling Donald Trump modern day version
of Hitler because he wants to root out people trying
to destroy America from the inside.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Here, this is cut this is cut nine. In his
CNN's Caitlin Collins sounding the alarm over Trump's hitlary and verbiage,
play nine.
Speaker 5 (28:35):
It's language that echoes that of Hitler and Mussolini. But tonight,
Donald Trump's campaign is defending how he called his political
opponent's vermin. Trump appears to be breeding from the prompter,
not ad libbing those remarks where he vowed to root
out his political opponents like Vermin. He also posted the
same language on social media, making it clear he meant it, Oh.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
No, oh gosh, we ever do at it. We're gonna
go through. This is gonna be a whole thing, a
whole thing.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
But I don't think I don't think it registers, buck,
this is my thing. Like, I don't think this at
this particular point in time. I don't think there's anyone
with a functional brain that buys into this.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
It doesn't register. Now, wait till all the networks and
all the late night shows and you know, everybody, all
of a sudden, and the Democrat apparatus is running January
six footage constantly, and Trump walking in and out of
jev of Court constantly. And I don't know. I just
I hope you're right. I mean, right now. To me,
it just seems it seems pathetic. But is that enough?
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Speaker 2 (31:04):
Welcome back into Clay and Bach. We were talking about
Biden at the top here and top of the hour.
We'll get into some more politics in the next hour,
including a few things Clay one is I don't think
we got into how the Marvel movie has a Marvel's
has bombed, which we should discuss a little bit. Yes,
worst opening for a Marvel movie ever, and this one
(31:27):
was particularly woke. I think a lot of like women
leads or something in it. How many Marvel movies have
you seen, oh like less than three? I think, I
mean very few I grew I mean I grew up
reading comic books. Yeah, I just think most of the
Marvel Universe movies are just CGI headaches. I'll just be honest.
I just think there's no there's no story, there's no writing.
(31:47):
It's all just like like Aliens flying around New York
City going into buildings while Hulk is like smash and
you know, I don't know, it's nothing. I've seen almost all.
We'll get into this.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
I have.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
I have pissed off like half the planet. That's okay.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
The boys, I mean when you have young kids, kid,
I probably like them. Ye, yes, I've seen every pretty
much Marvel movie. I like some superhero movies. Well, so
to be fair, if you're talking about iron Man, like
the original Iron Man movie, I thought it was a
good movie.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
Like I enjoyed that. I like the Dark Knight and
the Christian Bale. I like the original Batman. I'm a
superhero guy. I just think the Marvel Universe turned into it.
It's just too many and there's like no story and
it's too much CGI. I'm just saying, as you know,
crumpy old man Buck is on his lawn and he's
telling Hulk and four to get off his lawn. That's
(32:36):
all I'm saying. They probably will not listen to me.
Then there's something else too. You see that they've cast
Denzel Washington as Hannibal in a Netflix movie. Now, I've
been wondering when somebody the Second Punic War is one
of the most amazing stories in all of military history. Okay,
(32:58):
Hannibal Barka with a blood oath from childhood, leads this army,
starts in Spain, goes up through the Alps, comes down.
People are talking about the elephants. Basically all the elephants died.
But you have to read Livy's history of Hannibal's War
in order to know this stuff. But they comes down
and just kicks the Romans butts at Lake Trasimani and
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Kenny and all these other player Kenna people say different ways,
and is arguably the greatest general of all time. I
mean it's him Napoleon, who also has a movie coming
out of Ridley Scott which looks really good, looks amazing.
I will I will actually sit in a theater with
other people to see that movie, which is very rare
for me. What does that movie come out? Is it Thanksgiving?
(33:42):
I don't know. I think soon ish. I've seen a
lot of press for it. I'm actually excited to watch
that movie. I think Riley Phoenix is Phoenix is going
to be clearly a weirdo, but a very very talented actor.
A lot of very talented actors are so Hannibal is
one of the greatest generals of all time. They've cast
Denzel Washington to play Hannibal. Now now people are getting
into this little bit. Denzel Washington, for me, is one
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of the best actors of his generation to five actor
of his generation period, full stop, one of the best
actors living today. So it's not that Denzel Washington would
not do a phenomenal job. He's a phenomenal actor. Fine,
but people are getting into Okay, does it matter as
a matter of historical accuratey if you're looking at historical
accuracy that while the city of Carthage was in North Africa,
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they are descendants. It was essentially a colony of Phoenicians.
Phoenicians come from what is currently the Levant, which would
be Israel, Lebanon, Syria, that area. So it was a
Phoenician city even founded before ancient Rome was It is
not because people think of North Africa, and I think
they think, oh Africa, it's it's not sub Saharan Africa.
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So basically Hannibal, white guy. Hannibal would have looked like
a Mediterranean Eastern Mediterranean perhaps white guy. Yes, that that
is what that is the same. By the way, people
talked about this with Cleopatra when the Cleopatra movie came
out as well, Yeah, they said, all, well, she lives
in Egypt. No, she wouldn't have even an Arab at
that time. It was a Greek colony. The Greek said,
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people have no knowledge of the Mediterranean and its history whatsoever.
I actually find it a fascinating period.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
So I need to re I'm fascinated by it too.
Your knowledge. I'm not like a Civil War history nerd.
I need to study more on on this. So I
don't have a problem with actors playing people that if
they are incredibly talented actors, that they may not represent
perfectly from a racial dynamic, right, But I think it
(35:42):
has to be consistent. And you can well imagine who's
a famous.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
Uh you had a Okay, Washington played Malcolm X phenomenally.
It was he was probably should have gotten the oscar
for that. But anyway, he was phenomenal in Malcolm. Yes,
if you had not, even if you had like an
a super talented you know, Asian American guy play Malcolm X,
people would completely lose their minds. Correct, Now that's a
(36:10):
more recent history. This is such a good conversation. I think.
Let me say this.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
I went and saw Denzel Washington on a Broadway play
and it was I don't even remember what the play was.
I'm such a Denzel fan that my wife just was like,
I think you're gonna think this is badass, Like, let's
go see this play. I can't believe how talented he
is in a Broadway play.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Just I mean, he's amazing. But here's the thing. I'm
fine if the rules are we don't care, and anyone
can play anyone because it's all make believe anyway. Fine, yes,
those have to be the rules. It can't be historical
accuracy doesn't matter for wokeness purposes. But well, and other things.
You know, you can't have some other guy, you know,
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you have to do this.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
It's a good let's have a conversation about this when
it comes back. Does it matter how old it is
as a part of the analysis, because I could get
good
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