June 18, 2022 • 37 mins
Dems abandon Biden ship, push Trump prosecution. AOC won't say if she'll back Biden in 2024. YouTube star Jake Paul tweets against Biden. Larry Summers says a recession is coming. Biden killed your 401(k). Would AG Merrick Garland really file charges against Trump? NYC to require masks at public pools. Buck gets stuck at the airport.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast. Welcome back in. By welcome back in,
I mean welcome in. It's the Monday edition Clay Travis
Buck Sexton Show. We appreciate all of you hanging out
with us. We hope you had fantastic weekends, and we
hope that you are not checking your four oh one
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k as. The bidas touch everything that could be touched
by Joe Biden is leading to a route stock market
just so you know, down nearly seven hundred points. It
is now below where it was when Joe Biden took office.
And virtually every company out there is in the red
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disaster afoot everywhere in the economy and beyond, and it's
gotten so bad. There's a lot of different stories that
we're going to talk about. The January six hearings we're
rolling on. Those continue not in primetime thankfully this time,
but during the day. We have got the basic decision
by the media not to cover the Brett Kavanaugh assassination attempt.
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I was with a good friend of mine over the weekend,
fairly plugged in guy. He didn't even know there had
been an assassination attempt against Brett Kavanaugh because he's not
watching the media every single day, and even if he was,
it barely got a blip of attention. We'll talk about that,
but Buck, what I thought stood out the most over
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this weekend. Democrats have stepped all over themselves in this
January sixth, which is the default third impeachment trial for
Donald Trump, but they are now coming for Joe Biden.
And there were stories in the Washington Post, there were
stories in Politico, there were stories in the New York Times.
It felt very organized, It felt very intentional to basically
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let it be known that there are a lot of
Democrats that are jumping off the Joe Biden express to
the extent and expressed to anywhere other than disaster and
saying he cannot be the nominee in twenty twenty four.
And I think that is only going to grow as
we are now five months away from what is going
to be an all time midterm shellacking. Are you surprised
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that it's suddenly happening, I mean, you know, it's uh.
It to me is interesting because it's going on right
in the middle of jan six and most of the
discussion over the weekend was about Biden trying to get
pushed out of the presidency. It's remarkable when you hear
how open they are, I guess about it at this point.
It's also fascinating that that we're supposed to be completely
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enthralled with this. January sixth, I watched the whole first one,
right it's still going on right now as we're on
air of the second episode, so we'll be, as Clay said,
rolling on are picking up important parts of it for you,
But I've learned nothing new from any of it. And
in the background of this there, let's be clear, they're
making a case that Donald Trump should be indicted for
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conspiracy to overthrow the United States government, and there's even
been some more open discussion of that. You mentioned the
case of people are talking about. The House Committee on
Sunday had a few of its members saying Clay that
they had enough evidence for the Justice Department. This is
separate from Congress to consider a criminal indictment against Donald
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Trump for a seeking to overturn his twenty twenty election defeat.
I find that utterly fascinating. First of all, I don't
think that they have the gall to do it, but
I think that they certainly are dishonest enough that they
would do it right. So it's a question whether they're
willing to deal with the political consequences they're pushing. On
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the one hand, the prospect of maybe prosecuting a former
president for nonsense, as we know. And on the other hand,
your point about Joe Biden and all the undermining and
all the behind the scenes cloak and dagger in the
you know, in the smoke filled the rooms among Democrats,
probably vague filled rooms these days. Here is AOC when
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she was asked, now, I think AOC is the spiritual
leader of the Democratic Party, right. I think that she's
a a figurehead for the Democrat left that has more
power and sway in the party than anyone else, even
though she's just a member of Congress. Here she is,
and whether she would support Biden, you know, if the
president chooses to run again in twenty twenty four. I mean,
first of all, I'm focused on winning this majority right
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now and preserving a majority this year in twenty twenty two,
So we'll cross that bridge when we get to it.
But but I think if if the president has a vision,
and that's something certainly we're all willing to entertain an
examine when the when the time comes, that's not a yes, yeah,
you know, I think we should endorse when we get
to it. But I believe that the president has been
doing a very good job so far, and you know,
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should he run again? I think that I you know,
I think it's it's we'll take a look at it.
Can I just look at it? This is something she
says of the incumbent president of her party running again,
is quote something we would entertain. I mean, and by
the way, we are still relatively early in his term,
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which is why when this onslaught happens, when this red
storm arises, and we're about five less than five months
away from this occurring. I don't think there's any way.
I'm increasingly of the opinion I don't think there's any
way that they are going to put Joe Biden back
on the ticket. Buck and certainly listen to this from
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Brett Bayer. He says Biden's recent media blitz, remember the argument,
and this is not good for Biden. The argument was, Hey,
the reason why he has such low approval ratings is
because we haven't gotten out enough and let Biden be Biden.
That was the argument. That they were trying to make. Hey,
it's not all the disastrous decisions. It's not inflation, it's
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not the rate surging, the border being a collapse, stock
market collapsing all of a sudden, interest rates soaring, And
it's just that Joe Biden hasn't gotten to get out
and share his common touch with Americans. Listen to Brett
Bayer say, actually, the more Biden gets out and talks,
the less likely Democrats are to want to support him.
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Listen to this. The whisper is now much louder in
just the past few weeks, and the president's public efforts,
including that Jimmy Kimmel appearance, have not helped anything. In fact,
they've only increased what has been happening in Democratic circles.
This is not These are not, you know, Republicans, These
are not conservatives like lobbing grenades. Rhetorically, they are Democrats
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saying we have a real issue, a major issue, in
the words of David Axelrod So I expect that to increase,
and depending what happens in the midterms, and if the
election were held tomorrow, it would be a massive red way.
There's a lot of time to before November but there's
not a lot of time to steer the ship of
state at the aircraft carrier away from inflation and the
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problems that they're facing. So this buck is to me. Initially,
when you and I and other people would come on
and we'd say, man, this guy looks incompetent. He can't
answer questions, he has thoroughly past his prime. Democrats would
come out and they would say, that's really unfair to
even question Joe Biden's cognitive ability in any sense of
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the word. And then he goes out and does a
few interviews, even soft lay up interviews like Jimmy Kimmel
Late Night where they had to go to commercial break
because he wasn't making any sense where he's wearing that
mask as they pull back the curtain, and now Democrats
themselves are effectively saying, you know what, these guys are right,
He's got nothing left. If Joe Biden were the person
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that Democrats pretended he was to get him elected, not
only would he have taken an entirely different approach to
his presidency, but you would think, at least at this point,
his approach would be Guys, things were crazy with COVID.
Let's come together as a country. Let's bring this one
down the middle. Let's let's let's all unify, let's, you know,
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to try to pose as Americans Grandpa essentially right, because
that was what we were offered whenever were scared during
during COVID. He's gonna be it's gonna be normalcy, right,
So instead what you have, and we've been saying this
for a long time here, Joe Biden's actually a nasty fellow.
He takes really unfair not just pot shots at Trump
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and other people on the Republican side in all you know,
in politics, but the whole pandemic of the unvaccinate. I mean,
he's been really a vicious, nasty old man his entire presidency,
and I would argue his entire political career. He just
does the grinning and shaking hands thing for the cameras,
but it's gone beyond even people like you and me
who do this for a living figuring out how, and
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of course the American people are paying attention. I'm vaguely
familiar with this guy. I know, he's super famous among
everyone under thirty. Jake Paul, you probably know more he does, Yeah,
he does. You know, he's like a YouTube star and
for people listening Clay as kids. He always talks about this.
The longest line I ever saw in New York City
in person, and I am not kidding. The longest line
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I ever saw, including the opening of Star Wars movies
everything else, was actually to see a YouTube star who
did makeup tutorials, blocks and blocks and blocks. So these
people have a lot of influence. Jake Paul has four
million Twitter followers, is a young guy. I don't know
much about him. Here is his tweet from over the weekend.
Biden accomplishments highest gas prices, worst inflation, plummeting crypto prices,
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highest rent prices, ever created new incomprehensible language. If you're
reading this and voted for Biden and you still don't
regret it, then you are the American problem. By the way,
A plus ten out of ten for Jake Paul. He
sees it, he gets it. I will tell you this,
My kids get almost all of their information from YouTube.
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So if you are out there listening right now and
you've got grandkids or you've got kids, the odds that
they look up to a YouTube personality. This is somebody
who's not on CNN or MSNBC or Fox News or
ESPN or Fox Sports or anything. They watch and trust
these YouTube personalities, Like fifty years ago, people watched and
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trust Walter Cronkite. And so it sounds funny when you're
pointing out this Jake Paul thing, but the Jake Paul audience.
If Joe Biden is losing Instagram influencers and he's losing
the YouTube generation, which he is, I mean, this is
reflective of the overall numbers. Young people are abandoning Joe
Biden at rates far faster than older people. And this
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is emblematic to me. I don't even know, but I mean, basically,
Joe Biden's only base at this point buck is Black people,
who are right sixty five percent approving rate, which is
way low for the black approval rate of a Democrat
president usually, and woke white people. That's basically super highly educated,
woke white people. That's the only people that Joe Biden
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has a positive approval rating on right now. That's it
in the entire country. They've lost everybody else. Now we
get into how do they play all of this. I mean,
the truth, the obvious truth of the catastrophic Biden presidency
so far is that as as really obvious and weak
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and JV as these hearings are on Capitol Hill, it
is now the case. I don't think anybody would really
argue otherwise that the American people focusing on anything other
than when it comes to politics, the price of gas,
the price of food, the price of rent, the economy,
the stock market, crime in cities, etc. Is better for Democrats.
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Your day to day reality is something that is going
to drag down the Democrat Party into the depths of
the biggest election loss that they have seen. Would I
would assume now, or I should say I would guess
in decades, maybe ever? It could maybe ever. I mean,
I think we're looking at potentially a historic It may
not be as we've talked about Buck. You may not
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get the total numbers because the Democrats lost seats in
the twenty twenty election, so you don't necessarily have the
same swing, But in terms of number of votes that
could go to Republicans versus Democrats, I think it's possible
that twenty twenty two is the biggest loss in the
history of the Democrat Party. I do think that there's
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a desperation, a quiet desperation among the Democrats who are
really calling the shots. And and Clay, I just I
wonder I haven't asked you this yet. Do you think
that the Democrats would actually consider Now, when I see
the Democrats, it would obviously come from Merrick Garlands DOJ.
But let's be honest. Merrick Garlands DOJ is the same
one that one won't clear the protesters even after an
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assassination attempt on a Supreme Court justice's lawn. Yeah, won't
clear them had parents as domestic terrorist because they didn't
like what was going on in you know, in their
school districts. Do you think that they may actually try
to bring up Donald Trump on charges? Do you think
they have the golf in the radio business. We'll call
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this a tease and we will discuss whether we think
Merrick Garland has the testicular fortitude to potentially pursue such.
It would be a it would be a clear decision
of politics. And everyone knows that they're so It seems insane, right,
they are so desperate, though I know that this is
something that they're at least considering. We'll get into that.
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that quote, there is nothing to suggest a recession is
in the works. Do you agree with that? No? I
don't you think a recession isn't the way I think
that when I think when inflation is as high as
it is right now and unemployment is as low as
it is right now, it's almost always been followed within
two years by inflation, by recession. I look at what's
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happening in the stock and bond markets, I look at
where consumer sentiment is. I think there's certainly a risk
of recession in the next year, and I think given
where we've gotten to, it's more likely than not that
we'll have a recession within the next two years. Yeah,
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we are headed to recession, folks, maybe they're already welcome
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negative growth even even this quarter, which would tech which
would officially formally put us into a recession. And this
is I've always thought that the that the risk with Biden,
just to give us a sense of how far this
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has really fallen. Clay I thought the risk with Biden
from the beginning was that he comes into office and
does really bad things for the economy, but it would
be masked by the huge springboard effect of now we're
not in COVID the same way we were. People have
realized we've reopened. He's tried that with the ohh, I've
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created you know, eight million jobs or whatever the third
number is. But because they spent and spent, because they
put that two trillion dollar package out there, that a
single Republican vote. Nope, They've actually got the other problem
which you can have with an economy which is overheated
through monetary policy. Inflation now running rampant. Everything's down, and
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I mean, I hate to mention it because I know
there's so many people out there who don't want to
even look at their four oh one k's. It's now,
you know, the joke, unfortunately is it's rapidly advancing towards
a two oh one k. Right, And we came back
out of COVID and COVID still not over by the way,
which was the other springboard effect. And we come back
here in a sec. Let's talk about this January sixth situation.
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We were just discussing buck and whether or not we
think Merrick Garland is willing to charge Donald Trump with
any crimes and if that occurred, what would the actual
political impact be. Because I would argue that there's an
element right now of Trump and Biden that I want
you to just think about this image. They are both
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like heavyweight fighters who are in the fifteenth round of
a fight and the only reason they're both still standing
up is because they're leaning on each other. They're not
even really throwing punches right now, They're just both leaning
on each other out of breath. That's where I think
we are right now, and that might be twenty twenty
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we've kind of been talking about Biden under the microscope
all of a sudden, Democrats running from him. It's the
storyline of the weekend. But January sixth, the hearings are ongoing,
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and effectively it's a third impeachment trial for Donald Trump
and Buck. I think you probably would agree with me
that the more I watch and pay attention to the
way that these are playing out, it seems that the
House Democrats are trying to buoy Merrick Garland into charging
Donald Trump with some sort of crime. Right there, They're
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just beating the drum over and over and over again.
Trump committed a crime. Trump committed a crime with January
six and so the question is will Merrick Garland charge
Donald Trump with a crime? And if so, what is
the impact of that charging. So I think, because I
was thinking about this a lot this week Yeah, they're
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talking about how our entire republic is at stake and
democracies under threatened, all the rest of it. Why wouldn't
they Why wouldn't they given what they claim is clear
evidence that Donald Trump himself. Now I'm not hoping they
do this. I think it's insane, but I'm just trying
to get in the Democrat mindset. He should be based
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on what they say, based on their claims, their evidentiary claims,
seeing some criminal liability. But then that's fascinating, isn't it,
Because if they push this, I will say, I don't
think it would be hard for them to get a
jury in DC to indict that would be willing to indict,
a grand jury would indict, and then a jury that
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might even convict Donald Trump on some kind of conspiracy charge.
But they talk about threats to the republic, They talk
about a breakdown of our system. Such an obvious and
grotesque criminalization of politics would be truly the biggest threat
to our political system, to our entire government since the
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Civil War. Honestly, they use that comparison a lot. You
start locking up former presidents for I mean, if you
one thing, if there was a clear criminal charge. You
know if Donald Trump for some reason was you know,
trafficking fentinel over the southern border or something. Right, but
you're gonna you're gonna lock up a former president based
on an election dispute on charge of conspiracy. I mean,
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if you really play this out, you can see how
really dangerous. I mean, this is facile material they are
handling here. And I do think though the real play
Clay is exactly what we saw with the Muller probe,
where I remember, after all was said and done, it
wasn't we're bringing charges or we recommend charges against Donald
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Trump for the Russia collusion lie. It was, hey, here
are ten possible here ten possible obstruction. Do what this
what you will? You know, Democrats in the Congress, do
what this what you will? We could charge him, but
we're not going to. Is effectively what the Muller probe said.
It was a slander. That was the whole purpose. I
think a lot of people if he wore charged, and look,
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I don't think that Mark Garland is going to do it,
So put me down in the I don't think he
will do it. I agree with you, by the way,
I don't see that happening, but what is clearly being
they're trying to intimidate him and browbeat him into a
position where he has to do it. But to your point,
I think it would actually work to Republicans favor, because
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what you would have is a forum Washington, DC that
has a very slanted jury against Republicans, and if there
were charges brought, I think most people would immediately see it.
I really think this, especially independence and Republicans for sure,
as a sign of Democrat party weakness. And I think
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this is immediately what Donald Trump's response would be, They're
trying to charge me with crimes because they can't beat
me in the twenty twenty four election, and so they
are trying to take me out to prevent me from
being elected president, he would say, again, elect him president
in twenty twenty four. Now, where I think this is
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so interesting in January sixth, Buck to me, is I
wonder how many Republicans out there that are listening to
us now are kind of casually paying attention to the
January six hearings. Agree with us that it's all a
bunch of bs, right, that you've got Democrats who are
showing up outside of Supreme Court Justice's homes, protesting, you
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got a Democrat who tried to assassinate Brett Kavanaugh, which
would be a legitimate insurrection attempt, and all of these things.
I think they're right now. Are protesters outside of the
Senate buildings and the House buildings that have shut down
streets over abortion related issues. We've got fences up around
the Supreme Court. Democrats are fine with protests and trying
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to shut down government as long as they agree with
the reason that people are doing it right. We saw
that with the BLM protests that we're going on forever.
But to me, I wonder how many Republicans are out
there saying I love Trump. I think he did a
fantastic job as president. But twenty twenty two, obviously, let's
have a red wave in the midterms. But it is
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so incredibly important that whoever the Republican nominee wins in
twenty twenty four, that we need to have a real
battle royale to pick the best possible candidate. I really
think that's a thought process that's going on in a
lot of people's heads right now. I also think that
the Democrats recognize, because I understand we're talking sometimes here
we'll discuss a little bit of the twenty twenty four
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presidential election already, which you know it's a couple of
years out. We understand that that's people are going to
start announcing by I was gonna say, it's gonna come
up much faster than it seems. And there's already discussion
from the other side about this, because one leads to
the other, not just in terms of the time cycles
of this, but the realities of the mid term election
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are going to play an enormous role in what that
next presidential cycle looks like, and that will be kicking
off pretty soon. That The problem I think that Biden
faces is he has he really has no political capital
to deploy anywhere. The far left base is disappointed in him,
believe it or not, everybody because he hasn't been able
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to deliver for them in meaningful ways. Independence and and
Hispanics and you know, persuadable voters are they're running for
the exits as fast as they can. The mainstream, you know,
center of the Democrat Party. They don't think that Joe
Biden has the ability to pivot and unite the country
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or do a kind of triangulation or a third way,
So what happens after a disastrous mid term election? I
think the problem the Democrats face right now, Clay is
they really don't have an answer. They don't even know
what the response. Let's assume the election is what everyone
thinks that's going to be, which is a massive slapdown
and repudiation of the bad Democrat ideas that have annoyed
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the crap out of everybody listening to this for the
last eighteen months and have made you, you know, less
economically free, less personally free. You know, I've just been
a disaster. What is that? What is the hiot? What
is the Democrat move? I think they don't know, which
is why they're leaning in so hard on this jan six,
then trumpic You're right, because this is the only play,
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This is the only play in the play. Is evil
is all they have? Trump is evil is all they have.
And by the way, by January, you know what, all
over six months from now, people are going to be
announcing for twenty twenty four and starting their campaigns in earnest.
And when I look, let's say, clearly, Biden's at the
top of Democrat platform right now. Clearly I think it's
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fair to say Trump's at the top of the Republican platform.
If you had to buy stock in Republican candidates versus
Democrat candidates, there are a ton of great potential Republican
candidates for president in twenty twenty four. Trump at the
top of the list. On down, whether it's de Santists,
whether it's what I mean, we can go through the
whole list. I don't want to even name them all
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because inevitably we'll forget somebody. But on the Democrat side, Buck,
who would you even say, is hey, this person really
excites me that is currently in office in the Democratic
I can't even name anybody where I'd be like, oh,
this person seems like they've got a lot of sizzle
to them. They can deliver in a big way. I mean,
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the reason why we kendd Bernie's two, the Joe Biden
twenty twenty four president presidential campaign is still viable is
to your point, not only Democrats not have any ideas,
they don't have anybody who can deliver ideas cogently. Elizabeth Warren,
Bernie Sanders, they're old as hell. And then you got
people like Amy Kloschar I mean, like you really see
Amy Klobaschar's president of the United States. I don't even
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know who they go to, may Or Pete Kamala. And
also as this plays out, I just keep thinking that
an increasingly desperate Democrat party is willing to do things
that a lot of us would have thought nobody nobody
would really. That's why even the notion of indicting Trump,
I think it won't happen. I don't think it's off
the table, because there they've got to do something here
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that's a hail Mary. They've got they've got to train.
I don't disagree whole political trajectory. And as we sit
here and with all of our all of our people,
we're talking to people all of the country, we're all
running through this in our mind strategizing what is their
move gonna be. It could get crazy, It's what I'm
It could be something that we're not even really thinking
about all that seriously right now, Indicting Trump is the
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is the ultimate distraction to your point earlier, Buck, where
you're like everything is a disaster. What Democrats are grabbing
onto is the distraction issues, and Trump is the ultimate distraction.
I'll just say this right now, if I if I
really believe that we had a clear cut case. Let's
say I thought we had a clear cut case, and
people can say, oh, Obama's guilty of Okay, he did
a lot of things politically, I don't like if I
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thought that he had committed a criminal act against the
United States government that was prosecutable, why why wouldn't I
want him to be charged for that? Right? If I,
let's say I really believe that Barack Obama had been
part of a massive conspiracy to defraud the United States
government through cheating in elections, and I had proof of it,
wouldn't I wouldn't I want that? I mean, what are
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presidents above the law? We actually get back to a
lot of the discussions that happened with the whole Russia
collusion lie. So I think it's interesting that Democrats are
doing this whole Oh but we know we've got him,
you know, we've nailed him on this. Well, then why
not why not charge him? You know, you put yourself
in their shoes trying to pressure You're right, one hundred percent,
that's what this is about. It seems seems like one
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That's how we do it. Eight a eight Uh. We
already actually have a whole lot of of calls on
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the phone, so we could take those in just a second. Here,
we'll get to that in just a moment. You just
told me this. I'm trying to find the story. So
i'd stuttered there first, stumbled there for a second, um,
trying to find the story about you're because you're telling
me now I have. I actually used to go to
public pools in DC with some regularity. YEA, when I
was in my twenties and a CIA officer. You know,
(32:30):
really pools in your twenties, show off whatever abs. When
I was at the time, when I was a kid,
I would go to all the public pools in the
Nashville area. I was in h you know, daycare. Both
my parents worked, and we'd have a daily trip to
Pleasant Green Swimming Pool, which is in the Nashville area,
and then we'd occasionally get to go to the wave
(32:51):
pool back in the day, you know, the one that
was owned by the City of Nashville that made the waves.
And so I was just scrolling through and I cannot
believe that. First of all, I'm coming to New York
City tomorrow, first time I have been in New York
City since I was trying to remember when they I know,
we did last summer I was in New York. Have
I been up in like a year? I don't think so.
And last year was supposed to be the hot vack
(33:12):
summer where everybody was super excited the COVID shot was
gonna save everyone, and now everybody's kind of getting used
to the fact that that's not happening. But so I
just saw it. Your city, buck, They're going to require
people at New York City public pools to wear masks
everywhere but in the water this summer. I'm just gonna
(33:33):
tell you, So you asked about public pools, I used
I lived in Georgetown when I was a young CIA officer,
and there was a public pool in Georgetown that's probably
a pretty nice pool, a little like Baywatch. I'm not
gonna lie. It was pretty fantastic. It was. It was
good time there at the public pool anyhow. But in
New York City they're going to make people mask up
(33:53):
for entry to the public pool, for sunbathing on the
deck of the pool. You have to wear them everywhere
sunbathing except in the water because I guess they realize
that maybe it's poses like a drowning hazard, or I
would think I would think it's probably pretty easy. But
this is this is why you can see this turned into,
(34:16):
as we've said so many times, an anxiety disorder. This
turned into a political mobilization tool. There is no scientific
basis for this, whatso I would say, the scientific basis
it's this is from This is idiotic. I mean, the
people that think this is a good idea are not smart.
The people making people do this are not intelligent human beings.
I'm just laughing. It's sad that this could ever occur.
(34:38):
But you know, if you go to a pool and
you lay out, or you go to the beach and
you lay out or whatever else, are you're gonna have
like a mask tan, you know, like because you're gonna
have your big mask that you have to wear. And
then otherwise you're laying out in your your bathing suit
and so when if you're not careful, when you're done
at the end of the day, you will have like
(34:59):
a tan forehead, a tan you know, like and then
you'll have a huge mask tan line. How I mean,
how ridiculous. I cannot even imagine being at a pool
and having to wear a mask outdoors, laying out in
the sun. There were people crazy. So I got stuck
at uh. I'm just I was supposed to go visit
(35:21):
our fantastic affiliate in Saint Louis. We had mentioned that
I spent six hours at the airport yesterday. We did
the whole We did the the we hit the limit,
you know when you wait on the tarmac and wait
and wait and it's hours, and then we had a
We had delays before that, so I was basically the
airport all night. Did you have something to read? Did
you have enough to read on the airplane? A little
(35:43):
book called Undaunted Courage. My man, there you gom to fifty. Baby.
I'm I'm flying through Undaunted Courage. And I'm always terrified
of getting stuck on an airplane, your phone dies and
you have nothing to read. I think I would. I
would lose mine. It's never happened to me, but I
would lose my mind, I think. But I'm just gonna
tell you it's about ten to twenty percent of people
(36:05):
in the LaGuardia New York City airport walking around massed up.
And when I think it's so interesting, is the the
holdout maskers. A lot of N ninety fives, a lot
of like medical you know, they're they're the true believers.
You know. It's like the person that was on my flight,
true stories, hand to God, triple masker, double mask with
a face shield. For the whole three hours that you
(36:26):
were sitting there on the tarmac, they had their mask on,
like face shield everything. That's so, that's what's so interesting.
No one on the plane to Saint Louis not a
single person that I saw how a mask on. But
as We're going to Saint Louis, you know. Yeah, But
a lot of people in the LGA terminal were masked
up because it's a mental illness, folks. It really is
really a mental illness at this point. But imagine being
(36:48):
at the swimming pool and you have to wear a
mask to lay out while you're sunbathing. This just gets
crazier and crazier. Sleet Travis and Buck Sexton on the
front lines.
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast. Welcome back in. By welcome back in,
I mean welcome in. It's the Monday edition Clay Travis
Buck Sexton Show. We appreciate all of you hanging out
with us. We hope you had fantastic weekends, and we
hope that you are not checking your four oh one
(00:20):
k as. The bidas touch everything that could be touched
by Joe Biden is leading to a route stock market
just so you know, down nearly seven hundred points. It
is now below where it was when Joe Biden took office.
And virtually every company out there is in the red
(00:41):
disaster afoot everywhere in the economy and beyond, and it's
gotten so bad. There's a lot of different stories that
we're going to talk about. The January six hearings we're
rolling on. Those continue not in primetime thankfully this time,
but during the day. We have got the basic decision
by the media not to cover the Brett Kavanaugh assassination attempt.
(01:04):
I was with a good friend of mine over the weekend,
fairly plugged in guy. He didn't even know there had
been an assassination attempt against Brett Kavanaugh because he's not
watching the media every single day, and even if he was,
it barely got a blip of attention. We'll talk about that,
but Buck, what I thought stood out the most over
(01:26):
this weekend. Democrats have stepped all over themselves in this
January sixth, which is the default third impeachment trial for
Donald Trump, but they are now coming for Joe Biden.
And there were stories in the Washington Post, there were
stories in Politico, there were stories in the New York Times.
It felt very organized, It felt very intentional to basically
(01:50):
let it be known that there are a lot of
Democrats that are jumping off the Joe Biden express to
the extent and expressed to anywhere other than disaster and
saying he cannot be the nominee in twenty twenty four.
And I think that is only going to grow as
we are now five months away from what is going
to be an all time midterm shellacking. Are you surprised
(02:14):
that it's suddenly happening, I mean, you know, it's uh.
It to me is interesting because it's going on right
in the middle of jan six and most of the
discussion over the weekend was about Biden trying to get
pushed out of the presidency. It's remarkable when you hear
how open they are, I guess about it at this point.
It's also fascinating that that we're supposed to be completely
(02:37):
enthralled with this. January sixth, I watched the whole first one,
right it's still going on right now as we're on
air of the second episode, so we'll be, as Clay said,
rolling on are picking up important parts of it for you,
But I've learned nothing new from any of it. And
in the background of this there, let's be clear, they're
making a case that Donald Trump should be indicted for
(03:01):
conspiracy to overthrow the United States government, and there's even
been some more open discussion of that. You mentioned the
case of people are talking about. The House Committee on
Sunday had a few of its members saying Clay that
they had enough evidence for the Justice Department. This is
separate from Congress to consider a criminal indictment against Donald
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Trump for a seeking to overturn his twenty twenty election defeat.
I find that utterly fascinating. First of all, I don't
think that they have the gall to do it, but
I think that they certainly are dishonest enough that they
would do it right. So it's a question whether they're
willing to deal with the political consequences they're pushing. On
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the one hand, the prospect of maybe prosecuting a former
president for nonsense, as we know. And on the other hand,
your point about Joe Biden and all the undermining and
all the behind the scenes cloak and dagger in the
you know, in the smoke filled the rooms among Democrats,
probably vague filled rooms these days. Here is AOC when
(04:06):
she was asked, now, I think AOC is the spiritual
leader of the Democratic Party, right. I think that she's
a a figurehead for the Democrat left that has more
power and sway in the party than anyone else, even
though she's just a member of Congress. Here she is,
and whether she would support Biden, you know, if the
president chooses to run again in twenty twenty four. I mean,
first of all, I'm focused on winning this majority right
(04:29):
now and preserving a majority this year in twenty twenty two,
So we'll cross that bridge when we get to it.
But but I think if if the president has a vision,
and that's something certainly we're all willing to entertain an
examine when the when the time comes, that's not a yes, yeah,
you know, I think we should endorse when we get
to it. But I believe that the president has been
doing a very good job so far, and you know,
(04:51):
should he run again? I think that I you know,
I think it's it's we'll take a look at it.
Can I just look at it? This is something she
says of the incumbent president of her party running again,
is quote something we would entertain. I mean, and by
the way, we are still relatively early in his term,
(05:15):
which is why when this onslaught happens, when this red
storm arises, and we're about five less than five months
away from this occurring. I don't think there's any way.
I'm increasingly of the opinion I don't think there's any
way that they are going to put Joe Biden back
on the ticket. Buck and certainly listen to this from
(05:37):
Brett Bayer. He says Biden's recent media blitz, remember the argument,
and this is not good for Biden. The argument was, Hey,
the reason why he has such low approval ratings is
because we haven't gotten out enough and let Biden be Biden.
That was the argument. That they were trying to make. Hey,
it's not all the disastrous decisions. It's not inflation, it's
(05:59):
not the rate surging, the border being a collapse, stock
market collapsing all of a sudden, interest rates soaring, And
it's just that Joe Biden hasn't gotten to get out
and share his common touch with Americans. Listen to Brett
Bayer say, actually, the more Biden gets out and talks,
the less likely Democrats are to want to support him.
(06:21):
Listen to this. The whisper is now much louder in
just the past few weeks, and the president's public efforts,
including that Jimmy Kimmel appearance, have not helped anything. In fact,
they've only increased what has been happening in Democratic circles.
This is not These are not, you know, Republicans, These
are not conservatives like lobbing grenades. Rhetorically, they are Democrats
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saying we have a real issue, a major issue, in
the words of David Axelrod So I expect that to increase,
and depending what happens in the midterms, and if the
election were held tomorrow, it would be a massive red way.
There's a lot of time to before November but there's
not a lot of time to steer the ship of
state at the aircraft carrier away from inflation and the
(07:08):
problems that they're facing. So this buck is to me. Initially,
when you and I and other people would come on
and we'd say, man, this guy looks incompetent. He can't
answer questions, he has thoroughly past his prime. Democrats would
come out and they would say, that's really unfair to
even question Joe Biden's cognitive ability in any sense of
(07:30):
the word. And then he goes out and does a
few interviews, even soft lay up interviews like Jimmy Kimmel
Late Night where they had to go to commercial break
because he wasn't making any sense where he's wearing that
mask as they pull back the curtain, and now Democrats
themselves are effectively saying, you know what, these guys are right,
He's got nothing left. If Joe Biden were the person
(07:51):
that Democrats pretended he was to get him elected, not
only would he have taken an entirely different approach to
his presidency, but you would think, at least at this point,
his approach would be Guys, things were crazy with COVID.
Let's come together as a country. Let's bring this one
down the middle. Let's let's let's all unify, let's, you know,
(08:12):
to try to pose as Americans Grandpa essentially right, because
that was what we were offered whenever were scared during
during COVID. He's gonna be it's gonna be normalcy, right,
So instead what you have, and we've been saying this
for a long time here, Joe Biden's actually a nasty fellow.
He takes really unfair not just pot shots at Trump
(08:33):
and other people on the Republican side in all you know,
in politics, but the whole pandemic of the unvaccinate. I mean,
he's been really a vicious, nasty old man his entire presidency,
and I would argue his entire political career. He just
does the grinning and shaking hands thing for the cameras,
but it's gone beyond even people like you and me
who do this for a living figuring out how, and
(08:56):
of course the American people are paying attention. I'm vaguely
familiar with this guy. I know, he's super famous among
everyone under thirty. Jake Paul, you probably know more he does, Yeah,
he does. You know, he's like a YouTube star and
for people listening Clay as kids. He always talks about this.
The longest line I ever saw in New York City
in person, and I am not kidding. The longest line
(09:18):
I ever saw, including the opening of Star Wars movies
everything else, was actually to see a YouTube star who
did makeup tutorials, blocks and blocks and blocks. So these
people have a lot of influence. Jake Paul has four
million Twitter followers, is a young guy. I don't know
much about him. Here is his tweet from over the weekend.
Biden accomplishments highest gas prices, worst inflation, plummeting crypto prices,
(09:44):
highest rent prices, ever created new incomprehensible language. If you're
reading this and voted for Biden and you still don't
regret it, then you are the American problem. By the way,
A plus ten out of ten for Jake Paul. He
sees it, he gets it. I will tell you this,
My kids get almost all of their information from YouTube.
(10:05):
So if you are out there listening right now and
you've got grandkids or you've got kids, the odds that
they look up to a YouTube personality. This is somebody
who's not on CNN or MSNBC or Fox News or
ESPN or Fox Sports or anything. They watch and trust
these YouTube personalities, Like fifty years ago, people watched and
(10:29):
trust Walter Cronkite. And so it sounds funny when you're
pointing out this Jake Paul thing, but the Jake Paul audience.
If Joe Biden is losing Instagram influencers and he's losing
the YouTube generation, which he is, I mean, this is
reflective of the overall numbers. Young people are abandoning Joe
Biden at rates far faster than older people. And this
(10:52):
is emblematic to me. I don't even know, but I mean, basically,
Joe Biden's only base at this point buck is Black people,
who are right sixty five percent approving rate, which is
way low for the black approval rate of a Democrat
president usually, and woke white people. That's basically super highly educated,
woke white people. That's the only people that Joe Biden
(11:14):
has a positive approval rating on right now. That's it
in the entire country. They've lost everybody else. Now we
get into how do they play all of this. I mean,
the truth, the obvious truth of the catastrophic Biden presidency
so far is that as as really obvious and weak
(11:34):
and JV as these hearings are on Capitol Hill, it
is now the case. I don't think anybody would really
argue otherwise that the American people focusing on anything other
than when it comes to politics, the price of gas,
the price of food, the price of rent, the economy,
the stock market, crime in cities, etc. Is better for Democrats.
(11:58):
Your day to day reality is something that is going
to drag down the Democrat Party into the depths of
the biggest election loss that they have seen. Would I
would assume now, or I should say I would guess
in decades, maybe ever? It could maybe ever. I mean,
I think we're looking at potentially a historic It may
not be as we've talked about Buck. You may not
(12:19):
get the total numbers because the Democrats lost seats in
the twenty twenty election, so you don't necessarily have the
same swing, But in terms of number of votes that
could go to Republicans versus Democrats, I think it's possible
that twenty twenty two is the biggest loss in the
history of the Democrat Party. I do think that there's
(12:41):
a desperation, a quiet desperation among the Democrats who are
really calling the shots. And and Clay, I just I
wonder I haven't asked you this yet. Do you think
that the Democrats would actually consider Now, when I see
the Democrats, it would obviously come from Merrick Garlands DOJ.
But let's be honest. Merrick Garlands DOJ is the same
one that one won't clear the protesters even after an
(13:04):
assassination attempt on a Supreme Court justice's lawn. Yeah, won't
clear them had parents as domestic terrorist because they didn't
like what was going on in you know, in their
school districts. Do you think that they may actually try
to bring up Donald Trump on charges? Do you think
they have the golf in the radio business. We'll call
(13:25):
this a tease and we will discuss whether we think
Merrick Garland has the testicular fortitude to potentially pursue such.
It would be a it would be a clear decision
of politics. And everyone knows that they're so It seems insane, right,
they are so desperate, though I know that this is
something that they're at least considering. We'll get into that.
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that quote, there is nothing to suggest a recession is
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don't you think a recession isn't the way I think
that when I think when inflation is as high as
it is right now and unemployment is as low as
it is right now, it's almost always been followed within
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(15:36):
happening in the stock and bond markets, I look at
where consumer sentiment is. I think there's certainly a risk
of recession in the next year, and I think given
where we've gotten to, it's more likely than not that
we'll have a recession within the next two years. Yeah,
(15:58):
we are headed to recession, folks, maybe they're already welcome
back to Clay n. Buck. I think you could see
negative growth even even this quarter, which would tech which
would officially formally put us into a recession. And this
is I've always thought that the that the risk with Biden,
just to give us a sense of how far this
(16:18):
has really fallen. Clay I thought the risk with Biden
from the beginning was that he comes into office and
does really bad things for the economy, but it would
be masked by the huge springboard effect of now we're
not in COVID the same way we were. People have
realized we've reopened. He's tried that with the ohh, I've
(16:39):
created you know, eight million jobs or whatever the third
number is. But because they spent and spent, because they
put that two trillion dollar package out there, that a
single Republican vote. Nope, They've actually got the other problem
which you can have with an economy which is overheated
through monetary policy. Inflation now running rampant. Everything's down, and
(17:00):
I mean, I hate to mention it because I know
there's so many people out there who don't want to
even look at their four oh one k's. It's now,
you know, the joke, unfortunately is it's rapidly advancing towards
a two oh one k. Right, And we came back
out of COVID and COVID still not over by the way,
which was the other springboard effect. And we come back
here in a sec. Let's talk about this January sixth situation.
(17:24):
We were just discussing buck and whether or not we
think Merrick Garland is willing to charge Donald Trump with
any crimes and if that occurred, what would the actual
political impact be. Because I would argue that there's an
element right now of Trump and Biden that I want
you to just think about this image. They are both
(17:46):
like heavyweight fighters who are in the fifteenth round of
a fight and the only reason they're both still standing
up is because they're leaning on each other. They're not
even really throwing punches right now, They're just both leaning
on each other out of breath. That's where I think
we are right now, and that might be twenty twenty
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we've kind of been talking about Biden under the microscope
all of a sudden, Democrats running from him. It's the
storyline of the weekend. But January sixth, the hearings are ongoing,
(19:52):
and effectively it's a third impeachment trial for Donald Trump
and Buck. I think you probably would agree with me
that the more I watch and pay attention to the
way that these are playing out, it seems that the
House Democrats are trying to buoy Merrick Garland into charging
Donald Trump with some sort of crime. Right there, They're
(20:15):
just beating the drum over and over and over again.
Trump committed a crime. Trump committed a crime with January
six and so the question is will Merrick Garland charge
Donald Trump with a crime? And if so, what is
the impact of that charging. So I think, because I
was thinking about this a lot this week Yeah, they're
(20:35):
talking about how our entire republic is at stake and
democracies under threatened, all the rest of it. Why wouldn't
they Why wouldn't they given what they claim is clear
evidence that Donald Trump himself. Now I'm not hoping they
do this. I think it's insane, but I'm just trying
to get in the Democrat mindset. He should be based
(20:56):
on what they say, based on their claims, their evidentiary claims,
seeing some criminal liability. But then that's fascinating, isn't it,
Because if they push this, I will say, I don't
think it would be hard for them to get a
jury in DC to indict that would be willing to indict,
a grand jury would indict, and then a jury that
(21:18):
might even convict Donald Trump on some kind of conspiracy charge.
But they talk about threats to the republic, They talk
about a breakdown of our system. Such an obvious and
grotesque criminalization of politics would be truly the biggest threat
to our political system, to our entire government since the
(21:40):
Civil War. Honestly, they use that comparison a lot. You
start locking up former presidents for I mean, if you
one thing, if there was a clear criminal charge. You
know if Donald Trump for some reason was you know,
trafficking fentinel over the southern border or something. Right, but
you're gonna you're gonna lock up a former president based
on an election dispute on charge of conspiracy. I mean,
(22:01):
if you really play this out, you can see how
really dangerous. I mean, this is facile material they are
handling here. And I do think though the real play
Clay is exactly what we saw with the Muller probe,
where I remember, after all was said and done, it
wasn't we're bringing charges or we recommend charges against Donald
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Trump for the Russia collusion lie. It was, hey, here
are ten possible here ten possible obstruction. Do what this
what you will? You know, Democrats in the Congress, do
what this what you will? We could charge him, but
we're not going to. Is effectively what the Muller probe said.
It was a slander. That was the whole purpose. I
think a lot of people if he wore charged, and look,
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I don't think that Mark Garland is going to do it,
So put me down in the I don't think he
will do it. I agree with you, by the way,
I don't see that happening, but what is clearly being
they're trying to intimidate him and browbeat him into a
position where he has to do it. But to your point,
I think it would actually work to Republicans favor, because
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what you would have is a forum Washington, DC that
has a very slanted jury against Republicans, and if there
were charges brought, I think most people would immediately see it.
I really think this, especially independence and Republicans for sure,
as a sign of Democrat party weakness. And I think
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this is immediately what Donald Trump's response would be, They're
trying to charge me with crimes because they can't beat
me in the twenty twenty four election, and so they
are trying to take me out to prevent me from
being elected president, he would say, again, elect him president
in twenty twenty four. Now, where I think this is
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so interesting in January sixth, Buck to me, is I
wonder how many Republicans out there that are listening to
us now are kind of casually paying attention to the
January six hearings. Agree with us that it's all a
bunch of bs, right, that you've got Democrats who are
showing up outside of Supreme Court Justice's homes, protesting, you
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got a Democrat who tried to assassinate Brett Kavanaugh, which
would be a legitimate insurrection attempt, and all of these things.
I think they're right now. Are protesters outside of the
Senate buildings and the House buildings that have shut down
streets over abortion related issues. We've got fences up around
the Supreme Court. Democrats are fine with protests and trying
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to shut down government as long as they agree with
the reason that people are doing it right. We saw
that with the BLM protests that we're going on forever.
But to me, I wonder how many Republicans are out
there saying I love Trump. I think he did a
fantastic job as president. But twenty twenty two, obviously, let's
have a red wave in the midterms. But it is
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so incredibly important that whoever the Republican nominee wins in
twenty twenty four, that we need to have a real
battle royale to pick the best possible candidate. I really
think that's a thought process that's going on in a
lot of people's heads right now. I also think that
the Democrats recognize, because I understand we're talking sometimes here
we'll discuss a little bit of the twenty twenty four
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presidential election already, which you know it's a couple of
years out. We understand that that's people are going to
start announcing by I was gonna say, it's gonna come
up much faster than it seems. And there's already discussion
from the other side about this, because one leads to
the other, not just in terms of the time cycles
of this, but the realities of the mid term election
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are going to play an enormous role in what that
next presidential cycle looks like, and that will be kicking
off pretty soon. That The problem I think that Biden
faces is he has he really has no political capital
to deploy anywhere. The far left base is disappointed in him,
believe it or not, everybody because he hasn't been able
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to deliver for them in meaningful ways. Independence and and
Hispanics and you know, persuadable voters are they're running for
the exits as fast as they can. The mainstream, you know,
center of the Democrat Party. They don't think that Joe
Biden has the ability to pivot and unite the country
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or do a kind of triangulation or a third way,
So what happens after a disastrous mid term election? I
think the problem the Democrats face right now, Clay is
they really don't have an answer. They don't even know
what the response. Let's assume the election is what everyone
thinks that's going to be, which is a massive slapdown
and repudiation of the bad Democrat ideas that have annoyed
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the crap out of everybody listening to this for the
last eighteen months and have made you, you know, less
economically free, less personally free. You know, I've just been
a disaster. What is that? What is the hiot? What
is the Democrat move? I think they don't know, which
is why they're leaning in so hard on this jan six,
then trumpic You're right, because this is the only play,
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This is the only play in the play. Is evil
is all they have? Trump is evil is all they have.
And by the way, by January, you know what, all
over six months from now, people are going to be
announcing for twenty twenty four and starting their campaigns in earnest.
And when I look, let's say, clearly, Biden's at the
top of Democrat platform right now. Clearly I think it's
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fair to say Trump's at the top of the Republican platform.
If you had to buy stock in Republican candidates versus
Democrat candidates, there are a ton of great potential Republican
candidates for president in twenty twenty four. Trump at the
top of the list. On down, whether it's de Santists,
whether it's what I mean, we can go through the
whole list. I don't want to even name them all
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because inevitably we'll forget somebody. But on the Democrat side, Buck,
who would you even say, is hey, this person really
excites me that is currently in office in the Democratic
I can't even name anybody where I'd be like, oh,
this person seems like they've got a lot of sizzle
to them. They can deliver in a big way. I mean,
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the reason why we kendd Bernie's two, the Joe Biden
twenty twenty four president presidential campaign is still viable is
to your point, not only Democrats not have any ideas,
they don't have anybody who can deliver ideas cogently. Elizabeth Warren,
Bernie Sanders, they're old as hell. And then you got
people like Amy Kloschar I mean, like you really see
Amy Klobaschar's president of the United States. I don't even
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know who they go to, may Or Pete Kamala. And
also as this plays out, I just keep thinking that
an increasingly desperate Democrat party is willing to do things
that a lot of us would have thought nobody nobody
would really. That's why even the notion of indicting Trump,
I think it won't happen. I don't think it's off
the table, because there they've got to do something here
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that's a hail Mary. They've got they've got to train.
I don't disagree whole political trajectory. And as we sit
here and with all of our all of our people,
we're talking to people all of the country, we're all
running through this in our mind strategizing what is their
move gonna be. It could get crazy, It's what I'm
It could be something that we're not even really thinking
about all that seriously right now, Indicting Trump is the
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is the ultimate distraction to your point earlier, Buck, where
you're like everything is a disaster. What Democrats are grabbing
onto is the distraction issues, and Trump is the ultimate distraction.
I'll just say this right now, if I if I
really believe that we had a clear cut case. Let's
say I thought we had a clear cut case, and
people can say, oh, Obama's guilty of Okay, he did
a lot of things politically, I don't like if I
(29:38):
thought that he had committed a criminal act against the
United States government that was prosecutable, why why wouldn't I
want him to be charged for that? Right? If I,
let's say I really believe that Barack Obama had been
part of a massive conspiracy to defraud the United States
government through cheating in elections, and I had proof of it,
wouldn't I wouldn't I want that? I mean, what are
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presidents above the law? We actually get back to a
lot of the discussions that happened with the whole Russia
collusion lie. So I think it's interesting that Democrats are
doing this whole Oh but we know we've got him,
you know, we've nailed him on this. Well, then why
not why not charge him? You know, you put yourself
in their shoes trying to pressure You're right, one hundred percent,
that's what this is about. It seems seems like one
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That's how we do it. Eight a eight Uh. We
already actually have a whole lot of of calls on
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the phone, so we could take those in just a second. Here,
we'll get to that in just a moment. You just
told me this. I'm trying to find the story. So
i'd stuttered there first, stumbled there for a second, um,
trying to find the story about you're because you're telling
me now I have. I actually used to go to
public pools in DC with some regularity. YEA, when I
was in my twenties and a CIA officer. You know,
(32:30):
really pools in your twenties, show off whatever abs. When
I was at the time, when I was a kid,
I would go to all the public pools in the
Nashville area. I was in h you know, daycare. Both
my parents worked, and we'd have a daily trip to
Pleasant Green Swimming Pool, which is in the Nashville area,
and then we'd occasionally get to go to the wave
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pool back in the day, you know, the one that
was owned by the City of Nashville that made the waves.
And so I was just scrolling through and I cannot
believe that. First of all, I'm coming to New York
City tomorrow, first time I have been in New York
City since I was trying to remember when they I know,
we did last summer I was in New York. Have
I been up in like a year? I don't think so.
And last year was supposed to be the hot vack
(33:12):
summer where everybody was super excited the COVID shot was
gonna save everyone, and now everybody's kind of getting used
to the fact that that's not happening. But so I
just saw it. Your city, buck, They're going to require
people at New York City public pools to wear masks
everywhere but in the water this summer. I'm just gonna
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tell you, So you asked about public pools, I used
I lived in Georgetown when I was a young CIA officer,
and there was a public pool in Georgetown that's probably
a pretty nice pool, a little like Baywatch. I'm not
gonna lie. It was pretty fantastic. It was. It was
good time there at the public pool anyhow. But in
New York City they're going to make people mask up
(33:53):
for entry to the public pool, for sunbathing on the
deck of the pool. You have to wear them everywhere
sunbathing except in the water because I guess they realize
that maybe it's poses like a drowning hazard, or I
would think I would think it's probably pretty easy. But
this is this is why you can see this turned into,
(34:16):
as we've said so many times, an anxiety disorder. This
turned into a political mobilization tool. There is no scientific
basis for this, whatso I would say, the scientific basis
it's this is from This is idiotic. I mean, the
people that think this is a good idea are not smart.
The people making people do this are not intelligent human beings.
I'm just laughing. It's sad that this could ever occur.
(34:38):
But you know, if you go to a pool and
you lay out, or you go to the beach and
you lay out or whatever else, are you're gonna have
like a mask tan, you know, like because you're gonna
have your big mask that you have to wear. And
then otherwise you're laying out in your your bathing suit
and so when if you're not careful, when you're done
at the end of the day, you will have like
(34:59):
a tan forehead, a tan you know, like and then
you'll have a huge mask tan line. How I mean,
how ridiculous. I cannot even imagine being at a pool
and having to wear a mask outdoors, laying out in
the sun. There were people crazy. So I got stuck
at uh. I'm just I was supposed to go visit
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our fantastic affiliate in Saint Louis. We had mentioned that
I spent six hours at the airport yesterday. We did
the whole We did the the we hit the limit,
you know when you wait on the tarmac and wait
and wait and it's hours, and then we had a
We had delays before that, so I was basically the
airport all night. Did you have something to read? Did
you have enough to read on the airplane? A little
(35:43):
book called Undaunted Courage. My man, there you gom to fifty. Baby.
I'm I'm flying through Undaunted Courage. And I'm always terrified
of getting stuck on an airplane, your phone dies and
you have nothing to read. I think I would. I
would lose mine. It's never happened to me, but I
would lose my mind, I think. But I'm just gonna
tell you it's about ten to twenty percent of people
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in the LaGuardia New York City airport walking around massed up.
And when I think it's so interesting, is the the
holdout maskers. A lot of N ninety fives, a lot
of like medical you know, they're they're the true believers.
You know. It's like the person that was on my flight,
true stories, hand to God, triple masker, double mask with
a face shield. For the whole three hours that you
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were sitting there on the tarmac, they had their mask on,
like face shield everything. That's so, that's what's so interesting.
No one on the plane to Saint Louis not a
single person that I saw how a mask on. But
as We're going to Saint Louis, you know. Yeah, But
a lot of people in the LGA terminal were masked
up because it's a mental illness, folks. It really is
really a mental illness at this point. But imagine being
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at the swimming pool and you have to wear a
mask to lay out while you're sunbathing. This just gets
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