January 18, 2024 • 40 mins
Devin and Carolina catch up after Carolina’s surgery and then discuss the most recent episodes of Southern Charm, Real Housewives of Salt Lake City, and Real Housewives of Beverly Hills!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Oh hello, and welcome to True Romance. This is Carolina Barlow.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
And this is Devin Leary.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
You guys, I come to you an injured woman. I
just had another hand surgery. I just plugged in all
of my podcast equipment with one hand, and that just
shows you this.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Is the year of girl boss energy.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
We come to you to discuss a couple reunions, a
couple of groups of people yelling at each other. I
think the one that Devin and I found most interesting, though,
was the reunion of one of my favorite television shows
of all time, which is Southern Charm.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Yeah, I mean salt Lake.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
I was actually supposed to have friends over to watch
salt Lake reunion, but then we all were like, actually,
the first reunion is just going to be boring, and
they're going to save everything to the part, which is
very true. The most exciting thing about the salt Lake
reunion was Whitney's choice in dress, which was it's so
bad that like she hasn't even really been posting pictures
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of it. She's like posting pictures of her jewelry. I
think she knows like that was a mistake and like
to go for something so bold for a reunion. It's
like a huge risk with not a huge reward. So
that was kind of the most interesting thing.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
I am shocked by Monica's like perseverance in self sabotaging,
Like when Andy was like, you reached out to casting
and what did you say?
Speaker 2 (01:40):
And Monica goes, I.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Said, your show sucks and your ratings are shit and
it's gonna get canceled, and it's like and then of
course they flash to the email where Monica's like, I
love your show so much, would love to be considered.
You need a feisty latina. I'm your girl, And I
was just like, why are you set on burning this down?
This is a job for you.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
But she can't control it.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
What we've come to learn, sorry, what I've come to
learn about Monica is that Apple Tree, Like we all
knew her mom was crazy. We're like, your mom is
so sick, abusive, awful, crazy. No one comes out of
a situation like that unscathed. Monica has a few screws loose, okay,
(02:26):
I know.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
And it's like she's kind of like.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Robert Durst, Like remember watching The Jinx and you're like, wait,
he's not really going to just like steal a sandwich
from that store, Like what that's sodam? Like you got
you got away with it, Like now the world is
your oyster. And she's kind of just like screaming squaring
is squaring, see screaming squaring, she's square dancing. No, but
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she's like calling Angie a benchwarming bitch, Like we're like,
all right, I don't know, like she didn't come to play.
But it's sort of like I mean, the Vanderbump Rules
reunion was sort of similar, where it's like, Okay, this
build up, this crazy season, oh my god, and then
the reunion was just like all right, well we already
know this fucking insane thing happened. Now we have to
talk about like how Whitney at one point said she
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was grossed out by Meredith's bath, Like I don't care
about it anymore.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Yeah, exactly, Like in actuality, this reunion should be one hour,
not three parts. You're just making us wait until yeah,
we get to like I think there was a way Jane.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Well, also with Atlanta, I think the season where Portia
accused Candy of having a sex dungeon and roofying her.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
So those are just some things that as viewers we
watch calmly nodding our heads, just going on with our day.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Personally, that is entertainment to me. But you know, the
Southern Charm reunion took me by surprise. I didn't even
think actually turned it on late at night, and I
was like just to have background noise, and then I realized, like, oh,
I'm gonna actually have to focus during this because this
is like already getting intense and dark right away. And
here's something I'll say, like I as we know on
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this podcast, like towards the end of the season, I
really sympathized with Taylor and I felt like, Okay, she's
been put through the ringer by this guy who keeps
stringing her.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Along and it's not all her fault and I had
compassion for her. And what did she do with that compassion.
It's like funny because the first right out of the gate.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Thing, I mean, first of all, right out of the gate,
JT getting his makeup done and he's wearing like the
top gun outfit.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
I was like, I just love this.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Person, like this person specific, he's so specific and he's
so weird, and I just I am so happy for
him to be there. And then Madison looking so fucking
unbelievably hot that it's incomprehensible and being.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Like Marilyn Monroe, Alyn Monroe, like I loved, but even
Andy was like, this is a top three reunion.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Look like she's by her.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Yeah, Like I think there's certain women that transcend sexual
orientation and she's one of them.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Obviously.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
I can't stop staring what I love when she's on screen,
simply to stare at her, because she is majestic.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
She's majestic totally, and that is not even a word
I use that often, but she she's majestic, not unlike
the Jim Carrey movie about the movie theater. And she
looked great. But then so then Taylor's wearing like this
red sort of strappy dress, and Andy's like, is this
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is this inspired by like the Revenge dress of Arianna?
And then she's like, no, this is my scarlet letter
and it's like, okay, you in no world have you
read that first of all?
Speaker 2 (06:01):
And like you don't know what that means and it
doesn't really apply here, like what?
Speaker 3 (06:06):
And so she already lost me off the bat because
I'm like, you don't even really know what you're talking about,
and like what revenge.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Do you have to get you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Like I get that they were It's just like she
already had a reunion post breakup, so that was the
revenge reunion where I've they've just broken up, she's crying,
and I remember even watching the reunion last year, I
kind of felt like, okay, So I still remain confused.
It's like neither of them really even know if he
cheated on her, like I guess because he just always
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would black out and like, yes, that's hard.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Then she was upset that.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
She's like, well, we broke up and then you immediately
hooked up with someone else, and it's like, well, that's
not the same thing as cheating.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Like, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
I remember last reunion being like, I feel really bad
for you, but I don't really understand the direction you're
taking this like narrative, and the fact that she's still
in that narrative. It is a full year later and
she's still being like, this is my revenge dress for
the Shepherd, And it's like, all right, hun, it's enough now.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
First of all, I identify with this satellite, but yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Second of all, she really lost me in the course
of the reunion.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Just part one alone. She really lost me.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
I heard there's only going to be part two, which
is sad and something that I will have to deal with.
But I actually think that this season only deserved a
part one and part two.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
And it makes sense though, because what we were just
saying about Salt Lake City too, it's like they don't
They're just like stretching it out. That's why this first
reunion Part one was so drama. Okay, so first of
all we learned that Craig.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Is into light bondage.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Well, first of all, that is so hot, and second
of all, he doesn't drink anymore, which is like, okay
hot and then hotter and.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Then actually crazy, how good Craig looked like, not just physically,
but just how well he came off this reunion.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
It was crazy.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
I was like, you're well spoken, you have employees who
have health insurance, like you are actually someone who has
a stable business from being a BRA celebrity.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
That's crazy.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
He turned things around because remember how coked out and
fucking like gross and loser issues. Yeah, like he was
so he'd failed the bar multiple times, not that I
could even stand in the room of the bar, I know,
you know, what I would do. I walk face first
into the bar and knock me right out. I hit
my head on that damn bar. But he like was
(08:34):
kind of such a fuck boy loser and he's really
turned things around, and like this is the thing. This
is interesting. I actually was talking about this with someone
last night, about like jealousy and relationships and like, we
all know I've been.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Betrayed, but we all know I've been betrayed.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
At the same time, it's interesting, Like, so I was
talking to someone about like this woman who like express
feelings for someone I was in a relationship with, and
it's like I kind of get that though, because it's
like when you see a man who and I mean
I don't get it in my case, because no one
I've ever been in a relationship with seems to recognize
how amazing I am. But like when you see someone
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like Craig and it's like he clearly sees that he
is in a relationship with such a fucking catch hot
woman who's funny and smart and successful, and he recognizes that,
yet he also has healthy boundaries. He's not like obsessed
with her, like freaking out like sick, oh freak, but
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he does light bondage with her, and he made a
room for her in his house and wants to start
a live with her.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
That's hot. He's doing everything right right now.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
A moment that transpired between Page and Craig, which I
thought revealed how healthy their relationship is was when they
were in his kitchen and he said, I realized that
it's not going to be the end of the world
if we don't end up together. And they used it
as clickbait, like Craig conover says that he can see
a life without Page, and you can tell it kind
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of freaks her out, as it would freak me out
if a guy said that to me. But he said,
like you brought me here, You've made me this healthier
version of myself where I wouldn't fall apart if you left,
which I thought was really profound. It's like, we should
be okay if relationships don't work out. I don't think
an okay is a relative term. I don't mean we
should be happy, or we should be immune, or we
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should be completely neutral. I think like when you lose
someone you love in any capacity, it's okay to fall apart.
But I think what he meant was I can still
like live a healthy, happy life even if you don't
move to Charleston, which is the will there won't they
question with Paige and Craig. I'm sorry, I would move
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to Charleston for Craig in a heartbeat. I know I
love life there. Maybe not, well, it's hard.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
I really don't think I would like living there at all.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
I mean, the Southern charm cast is not convinced me.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
I know, it just seems like so party culture and
like not interesting people and like racism and I don't know.
But at the same time, I mean, I'm just like,
why can't they just like be by coastal I guess, yeah,
that's true, but I guess who knows and whatever. But
so that was interesting to see how much he's excelled
(11:27):
when Shep is so unwell and like sickly and bloated
looking in his weird green velvet talks.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
And same with Austin.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Just Austin just has a better spray tand but also
just like looks like he's wasting away. So this is
something interesting that I saw, uh somewhere in my one
of my algorithms. So remember in the finale, JT gets
on a stool to confront.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Oh yes, I do remember at eye level.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Amazing, and then Austin gets really agitated and Whitney is
like whispering to Austin and saying, baby, calm down, calm down, baby.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Did you notice that? I noticed that a little bit. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
I have close captains on always, so I saw like
he's saying baby, and I'm like, that's interesting. And then
someone on Instagram was pointing out like that they I mean,
who cares like they just get drunk, but like they
like kissed multiple times in on the show, like I
guess quote and unquote as a joke. So some people
(12:35):
are like, are Whitney and Austin in love? And that's like,
what's really the underlying thing here?
Speaker 1 (12:43):
I can definitely me too, because JT when he flipped
out at Austin at one dinner, Whitney, who barely was
in the season, kind of sticks up for Austin and
he's like, JT, what are you doing? And I that
kind of stood out to me because I was like, oh,
Whitney's still here and conscious he barely is doing anything
on the.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Showy Cosby of the show totally.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
That is so true. His mom literally is more active
on the show than he is.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
I know, but I'm just like that's like so sickening
that scene where she was like, well, I really want
Whitney to like find a partner, and it's like he's gay.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Hun. I know, it's hard.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
It's hard because you're truly watching a man be forced
into the closet by his mother.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
I know, and he I'm sure he's just waiting till
she dies to be like all right now I'm sixty
and I'm gonna come out with it.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Well, also, we are going, I swear to god, the funeral.
Patricia's funeral is going to be on like season seventeen
of Southern Charm, Like she's getting older.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
How old is she? I don't know.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
But she's in a wheelchair because of like an injured back,
and she's still talking about like Madison's boobs and stuff.
But I'm like, do you want can you retire? Like
don't you want to?
Speaker 3 (13:59):
I know, it's just doesn't she lives a retired life
even before the show, Like they're so rich they don't
need to do anything. Okay, so let's get to this thing.
So basically I wasn't aware of this. I guess I'm
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sure I probably saw some random like Reddit things about it.
But so I didn't realize that shep was blacked out
for all of Bravo Con.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
So this was a really dark conversation, like a dark
thing to me. It's a funny it's a.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
Funny like sentence to say out loud, but it's actually
so dark to think about.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
And I guess, like it's Oh.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
It started because someone brought up that he like greeted
Taylor by grabbing her ass or something, and he's like,
I don't greet Taylor that way, and they're like and
they're like, well you did at Bravo Con. He's like,
I was like blacked out all of Bravo Con. And
then Andy is like, well, you told me you had
something to say to the group. And so this was
interesting because on the one hand, when a man like
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him gives like a crumb of vulnerability, it's very intoxicating.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
I could see Taylor getting like a moh yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
And but Madison made the perfect point, like, and I
love when Madison called him out for telling her to
shut up. First of all, he tells whim to shut up,
Like that's so egregious.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
I think we cannot we cannot overstate on this podcast enough.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
How disgusting that is.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
But she calls him out for that, and then she
says like she says she was about to cry based on.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Him like opening up like that.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
And then Andy's like, so what have you even, Like
what have you actually done?
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Have you stopped drinking?
Speaker 3 (15:44):
And He's like, I only drink beer now, and then
Madison's like, are you kidding? I was about to cry
and that now he says that like basically like he's
not actually willing to do anything, and yeah, he.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Was, like I thought he was just about to tell
us that he's going to rehab or he's getting sober.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Yeah, so that was really interesting.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
The funny thing is is that in the early seasons
of this show, Shep is constantly going after Craig for lying.
You're a liar, your life's a mess, You're not an adult,
Like he names his dog Craig, which is its own
weird like focus I just don't understand.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
But at the same time.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
It's like Craig grew up poor than literally everyone on
the show, and he is the only one who seems
to have a work ethic. All of a sudden, like, listen,
am I going to be ordering any pillows from so
and down South. No, but I appreciate that he actually
made a business and he actually seems pretty active in it,
and Shep just seems lost and confused. And I was
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listening to Craig as if I was like listening to
a motivational speaker, like Craig came off with so much clarity.
He was like, I was in your shoes and I
and basically Shep invited a bunch of his friends to
hear him out, and Craig and Austin were like, we're
not coming because we've heard this so many times. Wow, Yeah,
which I thought was chilling to imagine your friend, if
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you can imagine your friend calling you, like being like,
I need to talk to you. I have to get
my life together. How can you not show up unless
it's been like the fifth time of them doing that exactly.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
That's such a good point. Yeah, that's really true.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
It's really true, and I think it was really It's
like I feel like I've seen this on the Reunion before,
like Craig and Austin being like, we love you, but
it's just too much. And it just like there was
one episode this like season where it's like they just
showed like sheep waking up and like drinking a fucking
blue Gatorade and I was like, I don't want to
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be like.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
Fifty drinking blue gatorade in the morning.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
It's just like you know what I mean, Like because
it's like the reason I see kids because he's hung over.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
It's like, so when do you grow out of this?
Speaker 3 (17:59):
Like you live in this huge house alone and like
nurse your hangover all day and like, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
I'll never forget an episode of a Southern Charm where
they go to La and Chef's at a party and
he's hitting on girls and all of them are saying no,
And at one point he looks to Whitney and he says,
I want to have sex with every single person in
the world. And I was like, there's no other way
to say I'm an addict than that, Like yeah, it's
a crazy thing to say.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
And it's like weird that he's like bad at sex, Like.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
Okay, this is the crazy one of the crazier things
I've ever seen at a reunion, just someone being completely
open about the fact that they are too tired to
give women orgasms. We find out that Taylor is kind
of open about how she can count on less than
one hand how many times she's had an orgasm with Shep,
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which I'm like, are we this is crazy like that
we're just talking about this openly. And we find out
that Craig and Austin are both really good in bed.
Austin I like almost refused to believe because he looks
like an overgrown child to me. But Greg, I was like,
this is very good news. This is this makes me happy.
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I am a happier person knowing that Craig is uh
a ventures if he was famous, it's good to know.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
But I do think it was one of the more
vulnerable things I've seen in a reunion is Chef basically
being like, I need to this.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Is crazy, but it was. He was so depressing, being
like Bravocan was insane. I was completely blacked out of Bravocan.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
You're like like, by the time we got to watch
What Happens Live, then I drank more and it's like,
oh my god, this is like, imagine that's his AA qualification.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
He's like, then we're in Vegas.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
Then I saw I brought to Bravocon garcel In the
hallway and I was blackout and whatever.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Yeah, I mean no.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
And also like the stuff he said about the sex too,
He's like, well, I just want a barrel to the finish,
and it's like, wait, so then it's horrible. Like think
about sex you've had where you can tell like the
man is just barreling to the finish.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
It's like that's like so awful.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
It's so like bad at best, like uncomfortable at worst.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
But I don't think it's good for them either, like
they're if you're not enjoying it, they're not enjoying it.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Like I don't know. I'm just like, so that must not.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
Even be enjoyable sex, so you must only care about
the validation, which I relate to in a really depressing way.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
But like that's so sad.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
Yeah, it reminds me of the only five minutes I
watched of Killers of the Flower Moon. I turned on
Killers of the Flower Moon, and I'm like, first of all,
I see three hours and thirty six minutes or whatever
on the thing, like I don't know, and then like
the first five minutes is just like Robert de Niro
and Leonardo DiCaprio in Old Timey outfits. How many times
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have I seen this? Eight million fucking times? And old
timey outfits like oh, which war is this one? Oh,
somebody's just back home for more? Off the train. I've
seen this a million times. And then he's like he's
talking to Robert Genio about god knows what, and he's like.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Ah, do you lock me some women? And I'm like,
all right, fuck off, I have to turn this off.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
It's just like uugh, Like it's like, I don't know, like,
you don't like your You don't like you some women
like you don't like you some women. That's what I
want to say this Shep, if I ever see him,
You don't like you some women. You like attention to
validation because you have a hole in your soul that
can't be filled.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
I'm so interested to how everyone grew up. I wish
there could be prequels to all Bravo shows where we
could see their parents raising them.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
I know it's interesting with Shep because for someone to
come from so much privilege and to be sort of
a golden boy in his family, but there's so much
alcoholism in his family.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
Like I remember one time.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
And that it's so classic, like these waspy old money
people like just the addiction and not having no purpose
and you know what's interesting. Okay, So first of all,
there was one episode with his parents where his mom
opened the fridge and like the amount of wine in
the fridge that was open even you know what I mean,
It's like, that's not even all the wine they have.
That's just like how many bottles they happen to have
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open at this moment.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
It's like, so something's going on there.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
And first of all, and second of all, he said
at the reunion, like I feel like I have no.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Purpose basically, and it's like that was really dark.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
Yeah, and it's like I think that's so it's like
that weird documentary that people started to watch after the
election that Avanka Trump was in that was basically about
like rich kids and they all were just like depressed
and aimless and like had no reason to live because
it's like, well, you have all the privilege in the world,
so you have no reason to really work, so you
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have no really reason to find a passion, and there's
no reason to settle down because there's this feeling of
like anything is possible. Why given to something?
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Right? You know, it's just weird.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
But you know what else is weird though, Like, so
then he starts doing that thing with Taylor, which he
was like, well, I have been thinking about how like
I if it was another life or something, I would
have settled down with you. If it wasn't for the show,
I would have set And I'm like, that's so fucked.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Up, because there's no way.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
He has feelings for her, like the way that he
was taught, the way you're right, the way that he's
talked now multiple times about like if she did have
sex with Austin, he basically doesn't care. That's fine, but
you then you don't have feelings for her, right, I
can't tell.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
With him, like I think that it's it's so depressing
for Stoff to be like, if it weren't for Southern charm,
we would be married. It's like Southern charm is keeping
you from being married. Right, It's not like you're saying like,
if it weren't for my you know, career as a
doctor and just tending to patience all day, I would
be able to, you know, move faster in a relationship.
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He's literally like, if it weren't for the fact that
I am a famous Bravo star and I get married.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
To go to Jamaica and drink giant drinks with Tiki Straws.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Yeah, like okay for six months out of the year.
I I think that he's a truly angry person. Like
I think that he was really angry at Austin. I
think that he's happy that JT punched Austin or whatever
transpired on the stool fight.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
I mean, I just to talk to me Austin. Sure
it was ripped, so something happened.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Not is like the biggest loser of all time, And
I couldn't be happier that he's on my TV screen.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
Like him and Rod like hyping each other up is
like what I'm tuting in for.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
That's what I'm tooting in for next season.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Honestly, how he literally told Taylor, I love you and
I would marry you tomorrow. You're like you are obviously
new to television, Like he is just putting it all
out there. He knows that he needs to become a
part of this cat like he you know, there's sometimes
there's a housewife on a new season who doesn't really
know what her job is, and then there's the dam
McSweeney's who come on, they're like, I have to lose
(25:08):
my mind to get another season, Like I have to
really go for it. And JT is like one of
those crazy housewives where he's like I every dinner he
started a fight, he stood up and said like.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
You're not a man. You're not a real man, Like
you're not a gentleman.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
Yeah, he did the lord's work, and you know what
it's like, And what does he say? I think I'm
about to do a fuck boy exorcism tonight. I was
like okay, and.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
It's like he was like, calm down.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
It's been like ten men, it's the seconds I know,
well I know, and.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
It's like, you know what. Well. Two things.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
One, this season on all the shows aside from Beverly
Hills has been amazing for freshman cats coming in like
as the kids say, Rent was due to like give
an insane performance. But number two, I did speak of
Andy's saying that to JT. I thought it was really
(26:04):
sweet that Andy was like you like he was like
sweet with shep.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
I like when it shows that Andy's like, these have
actually been my colleagues for many rights and I care
about them.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
I am on the Bravo side of you know, a
Bethany versus Bravo obviously, yeah, and so I was glad
they included him telling Shep like, yeah, you really need
to get a control over your drinking.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
I know, like he was like kind, but he also
was like, you need to do something about that.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
And that's the thing. He will ask the tough questions.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
He will say, well have you quit drinking, but he
will let you say your piece.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Now let me say this. Then we moved to the
female friendship part of.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
The evening and oh, it's also funny, like, by the way,
let me say this. Southern Hospitality is one of the
worst things that Bravo has ever tried to make happen.
I like tuned in almost involuntarily because season two, episode one,
like came on right after the finale of Southern Charm,
and I watched all of season one and I thought,
this is not good, but I think it could get better.
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Grace Lily is definitely like a star true fan that way,
I'm like, I think it could get better.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
Grace Lily is great.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
Like Grace Lily is literally like this insanely hot, like
influencer girl who like farts in her confessionals and is like,
did I fart anyway?
Speaker 2 (27:34):
So I think.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
Maddie and like she's like yeah, Like she like she
is the one that I'm like, this is actually worth watching,
where like she like lives with her mom and like
she's like, so, I live with my mom and it's
because I don't want to spend money on rent and
I don't care. So and I love hula hooping, okay. So,
and you're just like who are you? Like you are
(27:55):
not real? And I will say in season two, episode
one or two, she's like, I'm like, I will not
be watching this. In season two episodes seventeen, second, thirty eight,
but she's like she's talking to her boyfriend. He's like, well,
it's just been really hard for me that you like
talk to other guys, and she's like message with them
on Instagram, like it's not that bad. So, and she
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also her friend is like thinks her boyfriend's cheating on her,
and she's like, so Maddie's upset because she thinks Trevor's
cheating And on the one hand, like that's like upsetting,
but on the other hand, like for me, it's really
fun when I have a boyfriend that my friends also
have a boyfriend, so I don't really want her to
break up with her boyfriend because then we can't.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
All hang out as couples. So she's amazed love that
kind of a maturity.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
Everything else on the show is so boring, so lame,
I don't care and whatever. But it's like the restaurant
is called Republic, and I was watching the Reunion part
one with someone who like doesn't normally watch the show,
and so Andy's like, Leva, who's watching Republic while you're away?
And she's like, the kids are watching Republic And the
person I was watching with was like, is always Republic
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their son's name?
Speaker 2 (29:04):
And I'm like, the thing that's fucked up.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
Is like that could easily be true because we're we're
in a world where people's kids are named Cruise.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Cash, Like you know what I mean. So I eat Hudson.
I mean, Hudson's like relatively normal, pretty name.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
Yeah, but it is like, yeah, Republic is actually a place.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
So the female friendship portion of the evening is where
this thing gets brought up.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
So Taylor says, I just think you should forget. She
says to Olivia, forgive as you would like to be forgiven.
And Olivia's eyes light up and she's like, this is
like the energy I love. Or she's like say it,
come on, you've been holding it over my head, just
say it. Yep, And she knew Taylor kind of and
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and this is great. This was great TV. I was
upset that it was sprawled from me on Instagram. This
is great TV because you look around and nobody knows
what she's talking about. And Olivia admits to hooking up
with the worst villain on any Bravo show. I believe
because he's an actual rapist, Thomas Ravenel. She was twenty
(30:07):
years old, had a crazy night in homes up with
Thomas Ravenel, and she's like, of course, I want to
take that to my grave. You see Austin looking like horrified,
Like everyone is looking so horrified. As Andy once said,
like can't they like people hook up outside of the show.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
It's such a weird little you know.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
I mean, the things I did at twenty don't even
you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Like she was twenty, so to me, I'm like, who
even cares? No?
Speaker 1 (30:31):
If anything, You're like, Thomas Rabinell is so disgusting, like
he she was like a family friend of his, and
you're like.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
And he's he was like sixty at the time, what
it was like three different families by then, exactly, I know.
But also it's like I thought it was really it
shows her character that she was like, so that happened.
Madison mentioned it in the reunion. Taylor defended me, and so,
as Taylor's friend, I told her you should know the
truth is that did happen.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
Which I was like, oh, so you're like a very honest,
stand up person.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
And she's like, and so, who's the one person who
knew Taylor and who's using it against me at the
first opportunity they have. And I was like, so this
was actually perfect, perfect work on Olivia's part to turn
it around, turn it around on Taylor. Like that's why
she was so excited to be like say it, because
she's like, I know, I'm about to fucking slam you
in the dust.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
And she said you're a shitty friend, and now I
know you're a shitty human being, which I was like,
oh my god, because the least Taylor can do is
just not like betray her friend even more, I know.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
And that's the thing too, where she lost me because
it's like in the finale, she has that conversation with Shep.
It brings us back to this place of like this
narrative place of Okay, she's acting like a total asshole
right now to everyone she comes into contact with, but
she's clearly in a lot of pain from this guy.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
Who fucked her up. Okay, I am.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
But then at the reunion it's like, no, you're actually
just like being a fucked up person at this point,
it's like there's no justification of this of like you
know what I mean, Like she left that place of
like I.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
Know I fucked up.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, And instead she was like,
I am gonna try to make you look bad now,
and I will say something something that happened this week
that was important for me. In the Bravo Verse is
a focus on female friendship, and I saw on Instagram
Catherine Dennis posted a picture of her highly facetune picture,
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highly facetoon picture of her with Olivia and the caption says,
we have never been closer. You did nothing wrong and
you didn't and you don't need to worry about being
judged by me.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
How beautiful is that?
Speaker 4 (32:39):
It?
Speaker 3 (32:39):
Was very, very tender, and then Olivia commented, love you,
my girl, thank you for always looking out.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
I just thought that was gorgeous. Yes, we need.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
Lack of judgment to maintain female friendships.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
And then I felt like on Beverly Hills, I loved
how I felt like this episode showed.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
A lot of like.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
Fun, like the girls having fun with each other and
then supporting each other, like they went to Kyle's little like.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
Celebration of life slash charity. I was crying during this episode.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
That was so it was beautiful and you know what
I put into perspective too, like it is kind of
like everyone was being like, well, she really changed her life,
like she stopped drinking, she's working out, Like yeah, she
went through like the most traumatic thing I can imagine,
and she lost her best friend and she of course
like went through this huge shift and now she's like,
I just want to be around people who make me
(33:37):
feel good because life's too short.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
Wow, that makes sense. And who's not there next to her?
Fucking Mo? Fucking Mo?
Speaker 1 (33:44):
Who is flag Morgan Wade? My my nice ship goals?
I would I will be disappointed if it turns out
then nothing's going on between Kyle and Morgan. I will
be upset, just like I was happy when Craig I
found out Craig Conover was adventurous, And I will be
sad if I find out that Morgan Wade and Kyle
Richards are just friends. I don't see a universe where
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they're just friends, but.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
But it would be sad if that's the case.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
Yeah, I do feel like Kyle might be doing some
queer baiting, like how out of nowhere?
Speaker 2 (34:15):
She's like, would you guys ever date a woman? I know,
but it's a little jacob Elordius, but uh yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
I was emotional this episode of Real House Hours to
Beverly Hills. I also thought it was telling that someone
brought up like, oh, would you be okay if your
partner communicate with women on the internet?
Speaker 2 (34:38):
And Kyle's like, I hate that. I hate that.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
Like Mauricio, like me and Maurice, you have gotten into
it about that, Like I hate like, don't you don't
have to like everyone's pictures? You don't have to follow people?
And I'm like, oh my god, Mauricio is a cheater.
Like I know it takes a few leaps to get there,
but you're like, oh, Mauricio is probably like dming with women, right,
and that's not okay, no, no, no, no, no, not
in my book.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
Can I also just say that I one hundred percent
believe PK and Derry doing quote unquote couples therapy by
their pool at the fire pit with a woman they
greeted as sweetie and my love. Yeah, is fake and
they're just looking for a storyline. I can tell when
people are in love, they are completely in love. I
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don't think that they are on the verge of divorce,
but they just need something to talk about so they
don't go bankrupt.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
I completely agree. And I think that PK is like
a housewife in his own right where he can get
to tears really quickly if you just give him a
sec And I think those tears were crocodiles tears, but
I'm fine with them. Like I told you, I have
like a weird sexual attraction, a peak really and I
feel that way too, where I'm just like, even though
you're broke, even though you're like just like the old
(35:50):
man with like two kids named Phoenix and Jagger, I
don't know, I can just see myself happily married to
you with like.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
His sweats on and like just walking around eating pizza
and fucking being.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
Slap getting the shit out of his own pictures.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
I just love it. Does he do that?
Speaker 1 (36:06):
Yeah, it's so funny. He like glosses over his pictures.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
Did you see Gypsy Rose found face tune this week? Oh?
Speaker 3 (36:15):
No, So what's in the news Gypsy Rose found face
tune this week? No?
Speaker 2 (36:22):
Yeah, it's it's a beautiful world to be in.
Speaker 3 (36:28):
This this couple's therapy by the pool aside world is
it's a good place to be. And I will say
I when Sutton was kind of like glowing talking about
her date that went well, I was like, you're like beautiful, actually.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
Sutton is I hate tid Oh sorry, I hate is
a strong word. I really didn't like Sutton when she
started on the show, and she has grown on me.
She's just one of those people who I think really
belongs on the show. She's an eccentric weirdo who wears
like sweaters with cats on them, but she also happens
to be like a multi millionaire and says she has
(37:02):
a small esophagus, which is.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
Anne Marie is already like not for me. I just
don't care. She's so boring. She's so boring.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
And did you catch that thing where she was talking
about her husband and she was like, my husband, he
said that I'm an eight and a half at everything, and.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
That's why you married me. I didn't. She was like,
oh my god.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
She was like in her confessional being like my husband said,
I'm I'm not the prettiest, I'm not the smartest, but
I'm yes, I mud have been on my phone for this,
but I'm an eight and a half at everything. Oh
and he said my looks were a nine. And you're like,
what if my husband told me that, I would say,
are you high?
Speaker 3 (37:42):
You're not the prettiest, you're not the smartest, but you're
like fine.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
You're not the best chef, you're not the but you're
eight and a half at everything. And she was like
so proud and thought that was so charming, and I
was like, uh, yeah, I don't think that I would
be smiling if someone said that to me.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
That's actually really sad. But yeah, she doesn't really bring
anything to offer. I'm like, it's just a stretch.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
It's a stretch. They could do so much better in
Beverly Hills, you know, they sure could well. I will
let you guys know how my body heals from this
last surgery. We will keep you guys posted as more
reunions come out. God bless Andy Cohen for bringing us
this bomb.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
In these sorry one were time. Thank God for Andy Cohen.
We love him so much. And you know, I never
asked to be in the middle of a fight between
Bethany and Andy, but I will have to choose Andy's side.
And yes, it was probably because Bethany dressed up as
(38:47):
a cop with her daughter for Halloween one year and
that was the final straw for me.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
That was tough.
Speaker 3 (38:55):
Yeah, I just give thanks sometimes like these, like when
the when ill Yvontie was happening, a girl from my
high school and I DMed about it and she said,
we're so lucky to be alive right now, and I
was like, I genuinely feel that way, Like I do
genuinely feel that way.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
And the Summer House trailer, like we're gonna get to
see Carl and lindsay break up.
Speaker 3 (39:15):
Okay, don't even get me started on that though, because
I have so many theories about that.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
Okay, well we'll get into it on another episode, but
for now, I love you, Devin, love you.
Speaker 4 (39:25):
Caroled slid. I want you.
Speaker 3 (39:46):
Sits so romantic.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
Love me, baby, don't leave me, haggin.
Speaker 4 (39:57):
I want true oh in my arms.
Oh hello, and welcome to True Romance. This is Carolina Barlow.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
And this is Devin Leary.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
You guys, I come to you an injured woman. I
just had another hand surgery. I just plugged in all
of my podcast equipment with one hand, and that just
shows you this.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Is the year of girl boss energy.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
We come to you to discuss a couple reunions, a
couple of groups of people yelling at each other. I
think the one that Devin and I found most interesting, though,
was the reunion of one of my favorite television shows
of all time, which is Southern Charm.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Yeah, I mean salt Lake.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
I was actually supposed to have friends over to watch
salt Lake reunion, but then we all were like, actually,
the first reunion is just going to be boring, and
they're going to save everything to the part, which is
very true. The most exciting thing about the salt Lake
reunion was Whitney's choice in dress, which was it's so
bad that like she hasn't even really been posting pictures
(01:12):
of it. She's like posting pictures of her jewelry. I
think she knows like that was a mistake and like
to go for something so bold for a reunion. It's
like a huge risk with not a huge reward. So
that was kind of the most interesting thing.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
I am shocked by Monica's like perseverance in self sabotaging,
Like when Andy was like, you reached out to casting
and what did you say?
Speaker 2 (01:40):
And Monica goes, I.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Said, your show sucks and your ratings are shit and
it's gonna get canceled, and it's like and then of
course they flash to the email where Monica's like, I
love your show so much, would love to be considered.
You need a feisty latina. I'm your girl, And I
was just like, why are you set on burning this down?
This is a job for you.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
But she can't control it.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
What we've come to learn, sorry, what I've come to
learn about Monica is that Apple Tree, Like we all
knew her mom was crazy. We're like, your mom is
so sick, abusive, awful, crazy. No one comes out of
a situation like that unscathed. Monica has a few screws loose, okay,
(02:26):
I know.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
And it's like she's kind of like.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Robert Durst, Like remember watching The Jinx and you're like, wait,
he's not really going to just like steal a sandwich
from that store, Like what that's sodam? Like you got
you got away with it, Like now the world is
your oyster. And she's kind of just like screaming squaring
is squaring, see screaming squaring, she's square dancing. No, but
(02:52):
she's like calling Angie a benchwarming bitch, Like we're like,
all right, I don't know, like she didn't come to play.
But it's sort of like I mean, the Vanderbump Rules
reunion was sort of similar, where it's like, Okay, this
build up, this crazy season, oh my god, and then
the reunion was just like all right, well we already
know this fucking insane thing happened. Now we have to
talk about like how Whitney at one point said she
(03:15):
was grossed out by Meredith's bath, Like I don't care
about it anymore.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Yeah, exactly, Like in actuality, this reunion should be one hour,
not three parts. You're just making us wait until yeah,
we get to like I think there was a way Jane.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Well, also with Atlanta, I think the season where Portia
accused Candy of having a sex dungeon and roofying her.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
So those are just some things that as viewers we
watch calmly nodding our heads, just going on with our day.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Personally, that is entertainment to me. But you know, the
Southern Charm reunion took me by surprise. I didn't even
think actually turned it on late at night, and I
was like just to have background noise, and then I realized, like, oh,
I'm gonna actually have to focus during this because this
is like already getting intense and dark right away. And
here's something I'll say, like I as we know on
(04:13):
this podcast, like towards the end of the season, I
really sympathized with Taylor and I felt like, Okay, she's
been put through the ringer by this guy who keeps
stringing her.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Along and it's not all her fault and I had
compassion for her. And what did she do with that compassion.
It's like funny because the first right out of the gate.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Thing, I mean, first of all, right out of the gate,
JT getting his makeup done and he's wearing like the
top gun outfit.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
I was like, I just love this.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Person, like this person specific, he's so specific and he's
so weird, and I just I am so happy for
him to be there. And then Madison looking so fucking
unbelievably hot that it's incomprehensible and being.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Like Marilyn Monroe, Alyn Monroe, like I loved, but even
Andy was like, this is a top three reunion.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Look like she's by her.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Yeah, Like I think there's certain women that transcend sexual
orientation and she's one of them.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Obviously.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
I can't stop staring what I love when she's on screen,
simply to stare at her, because she is majestic.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
She's majestic totally, and that is not even a word
I use that often, but she she's majestic, not unlike
the Jim Carrey movie about the movie theater. And she
looked great. But then so then Taylor's wearing like this
red sort of strappy dress, and Andy's like, is this
(05:42):
is this inspired by like the Revenge dress of Arianna?
And then she's like, no, this is my scarlet letter
and it's like, okay, you in no world have you
read that first of all?
Speaker 2 (06:01):
And like you don't know what that means and it
doesn't really apply here, like what?
Speaker 3 (06:06):
And so she already lost me off the bat because
I'm like, you don't even really know what you're talking about,
and like what revenge.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Do you have to get you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Like I get that they were It's just like she
already had a reunion post breakup, so that was the
revenge reunion where I've they've just broken up, she's crying,
and I remember even watching the reunion last year, I
kind of felt like, okay, So I still remain confused.
It's like neither of them really even know if he
cheated on her, like I guess because he just always
(06:36):
would black out and like, yes, that's hard.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Then she was upset that.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
She's like, well, we broke up and then you immediately
hooked up with someone else, and it's like, well, that's
not the same thing as cheating.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Like, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
I remember last reunion being like, I feel really bad
for you, but I don't really understand the direction you're
taking this like narrative, and the fact that she's still
in that narrative. It is a full year later and
she's still being like, this is my revenge dress for
the Shepherd, And it's like, all right, hun, it's enough now.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
First of all, I identify with this satellite, but yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Second of all, she really lost me in the course
of the reunion.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Just part one alone. She really lost me.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
I heard there's only going to be part two, which
is sad and something that I will have to deal with.
But I actually think that this season only deserved a
part one and part two.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
And it makes sense though, because what we were just
saying about Salt Lake City too, it's like they don't
They're just like stretching it out. That's why this first
reunion Part one was so drama. Okay, so first of
all we learned that Craig.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Is into light bondage.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Well, first of all, that is so hot, and second
of all, he doesn't drink anymore, which is like, okay
hot and then hotter and.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Then actually crazy, how good Craig looked like, not just physically,
but just how well he came off this reunion.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
It was crazy.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
I was like, you're well spoken, you have employees who
have health insurance, like you are actually someone who has
a stable business from being a BRA celebrity.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
That's crazy.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
He turned things around because remember how coked out and
fucking like gross and loser issues. Yeah, like he was
so he'd failed the bar multiple times, not that I
could even stand in the room of the bar, I know,
you know, what I would do. I walk face first
into the bar and knock me right out. I hit
my head on that damn bar. But he like was
(08:34):
kind of such a fuck boy loser and he's really
turned things around, and like this is the thing. This
is interesting. I actually was talking about this with someone
last night, about like jealousy and relationships and like, we
all know I've been.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Betrayed, but we all know I've been betrayed.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
At the same time, it's interesting, Like, so I was
talking to someone about like this woman who like express
feelings for someone I was in a relationship with, and
it's like I kind of get that though, because it's
like when you see a man who and I mean
I don't get it in my case, because no one
I've ever been in a relationship with seems to recognize
how amazing I am. But like when you see someone
(09:17):
like Craig and it's like he clearly sees that he
is in a relationship with such a fucking catch hot
woman who's funny and smart and successful, and he recognizes that,
yet he also has healthy boundaries. He's not like obsessed
with her, like freaking out like sick, oh freak, but
(09:37):
he does light bondage with her, and he made a
room for her in his house and wants to start
a live with her.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
That's hot. He's doing everything right right now.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
A moment that transpired between Page and Craig, which I
thought revealed how healthy their relationship is was when they
were in his kitchen and he said, I realized that
it's not going to be the end of the world
if we don't end up together. And they used it
as clickbait, like Craig conover says that he can see
a life without Page, and you can tell it kind
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of freaks her out, as it would freak me out
if a guy said that to me. But he said,
like you brought me here, You've made me this healthier
version of myself where I wouldn't fall apart if you left,
which I thought was really profound. It's like, we should
be okay if relationships don't work out. I don't think
an okay is a relative term. I don't mean we
should be happy, or we should be immune, or we
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should be completely neutral. I think like when you lose
someone you love in any capacity, it's okay to fall apart.
But I think what he meant was I can still
like live a healthy, happy life even if you don't
move to Charleston, which is the will there won't they
question with Paige and Craig. I'm sorry, I would move
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to Charleston for Craig in a heartbeat. I know I
love life there. Maybe not, well, it's hard.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
I really don't think I would like living there at all.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
I mean, the Southern charm cast is not convinced me.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
I know, it just seems like so party culture and
like not interesting people and like racism and I don't know.
But at the same time, I mean, I'm just like,
why can't they just like be by coastal I guess, yeah,
that's true, but I guess who knows and whatever. But
so that was interesting to see how much he's excelled
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when Shep is so unwell and like sickly and bloated
looking in his weird green velvet talks.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
And same with Austin.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Just Austin just has a better spray tand but also
just like looks like he's wasting away. So this is
something interesting that I saw, uh somewhere in my one
of my algorithms. So remember in the finale, JT gets
on a stool to confront.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Oh yes, I do remember at eye level.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Amazing, and then Austin gets really agitated and Whitney is
like whispering to Austin and saying, baby, calm down, calm down, baby.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Did you notice that? I noticed that a little bit. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
I have close captains on always, so I saw like
he's saying baby, and I'm like, that's interesting. And then
someone on Instagram was pointing out like that they I mean,
who cares like they just get drunk, but like they
like kissed multiple times in on the show, like I
guess quote and unquote as a joke. So some people
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are like, are Whitney and Austin in love? And that's like,
what's really the underlying thing here?
Speaker 1 (12:43):
I can definitely me too, because JT when he flipped
out at Austin at one dinner, Whitney, who barely was
in the season, kind of sticks up for Austin and
he's like, JT, what are you doing? And I that
kind of stood out to me because I was like, oh,
Whitney's still here and conscious he barely is doing anything
on the.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Showy Cosby of the show totally.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
That is so true. His mom literally is more active
on the show than he is.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
I know, but I'm just like that's like so sickening
that scene where she was like, well, I really want
Whitney to like find a partner, and it's like he's gay.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Hun. I know, it's hard.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
It's hard because you're truly watching a man be forced
into the closet by his mother.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
I know, and he I'm sure he's just waiting till
she dies to be like all right now I'm sixty
and I'm gonna come out with it.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Well, also, we are going, I swear to god, the funeral.
Patricia's funeral is going to be on like season seventeen
of Southern Charm, Like she's getting older.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
How old is she? I don't know.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
But she's in a wheelchair because of like an injured back,
and she's still talking about like Madison's boobs and stuff.
But I'm like, do you want can you retire? Like
don't you want to?
Speaker 3 (13:59):
I know, it's just doesn't she lives a retired life
even before the show, Like they're so rich they don't
need to do anything. Okay, so let's get to this thing.
So basically I wasn't aware of this. I guess I'm
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sure I probably saw some random like Reddit things about it.
But so I didn't realize that shep was blacked out
for all of Bravo Con.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
So this was a really dark conversation, like a dark
thing to me. It's a funny it's a.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
Funny like sentence to say out loud, but it's actually
so dark to think about.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
And I guess, like it's Oh.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
It started because someone brought up that he like greeted
Taylor by grabbing her ass or something, and he's like,
I don't greet Taylor that way, and they're like and
they're like, well you did at Bravo Con. He's like,
I was like blacked out all of Bravo Con. And
then Andy is like, well, you told me you had
something to say to the group. And so this was
interesting because on the one hand, when a man like
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him gives like a crumb of vulnerability, it's very intoxicating.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
I could see Taylor getting like a moh yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
And but Madison made the perfect point, like, and I
love when Madison called him out for telling her to
shut up. First of all, he tells whim to shut up,
Like that's so egregious.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
I think we cannot we cannot overstate on this podcast enough.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
How disgusting that is.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
But she calls him out for that, and then she
says like she says she was about to cry based on.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Him like opening up like that.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
And then Andy's like, so what have you even, Like
what have you actually done?
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Have you stopped drinking?
Speaker 3 (15:44):
And He's like, I only drink beer now, and then
Madison's like, are you kidding? I was about to cry
and that now he says that like basically like he's
not actually willing to do anything, and yeah, he.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Was, like I thought he was just about to tell
us that he's going to rehab or he's getting sober.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Yeah, so that was really interesting.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
The funny thing is is that in the early seasons
of this show, Shep is constantly going after Craig for lying.
You're a liar, your life's a mess, You're not an adult,
Like he names his dog Craig, which is its own
weird like focus I just don't understand.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
But at the same time.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
It's like Craig grew up poor than literally everyone on
the show, and he is the only one who seems
to have a work ethic. All of a sudden, like, listen,
am I going to be ordering any pillows from so
and down South. No, but I appreciate that he actually
made a business and he actually seems pretty active in it,
and Shep just seems lost and confused. And I was
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listening to Craig as if I was like listening to
a motivational speaker, like Craig came off with so much clarity.
He was like, I was in your shoes and I
and basically Shep invited a bunch of his friends to
hear him out, and Craig and Austin were like, we're
not coming because we've heard this so many times. Wow, Yeah,
which I thought was chilling to imagine your friend, if
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you can imagine your friend calling you, like being like,
I need to talk to you. I have to get
my life together. How can you not show up unless
it's been like the fifth time of them doing that exactly.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
That's such a good point. Yeah, that's really true.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
It's really true, and I think it was really It's
like I feel like I've seen this on the Reunion before,
like Craig and Austin being like, we love you, but
it's just too much. And it just like there was
one episode this like season where it's like they just
showed like sheep waking up and like drinking a fucking
blue Gatorade and I was like, I don't want to
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be like.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
Fifty drinking blue gatorade in the morning.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
It's just like you know what I mean, Like because
it's like the reason I see kids because he's hung over.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
It's like, so when do you grow out of this?
Speaker 3 (17:59):
Like you live in this huge house alone and like
nurse your hangover all day and like, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
I'll never forget an episode of a Southern Charm where
they go to La and Chef's at a party and
he's hitting on girls and all of them are saying no,
And at one point he looks to Whitney and he says,
I want to have sex with every single person in
the world. And I was like, there's no other way
to say I'm an addict than that, Like yeah, it's
a crazy thing to say.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
And it's like weird that he's like bad at sex, Like.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
Okay, this is the crazy one of the crazier things
I've ever seen at a reunion, just someone being completely
open about the fact that they are too tired to
give women orgasms. We find out that Taylor is kind
of open about how she can count on less than
one hand how many times she's had an orgasm with Shep,
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which I'm like, are we this is crazy like that
we're just talking about this openly. And we find out
that Craig and Austin are both really good in bed.
Austin I like almost refused to believe because he looks
like an overgrown child to me. But Greg, I was like,
this is very good news. This is this makes me happy.
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I am a happier person knowing that Craig is uh
a ventures if he was famous, it's good to know.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
But I do think it was one of the more
vulnerable things I've seen in a reunion is Chef basically
being like, I need to this.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Is crazy, but it was. He was so depressing, being
like Bravocan was insane. I was completely blacked out of Bravocan.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
You're like like, by the time we got to watch
What Happens Live, then I drank more and it's like,
oh my god, this is like, imagine that's his AA qualification.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
He's like, then we're in Vegas.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
Then I saw I brought to Bravocon garcel In the
hallway and I was blackout and whatever.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Yeah, I mean no.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
And also like the stuff he said about the sex too,
He's like, well, I just want a barrel to the finish,
and it's like, wait, so then it's horrible. Like think
about sex you've had where you can tell like the
man is just barreling to the finish.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
It's like that's like so awful.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
It's so like bad at best, like uncomfortable at worst.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
But I don't think it's good for them either, like
they're if you're not enjoying it, they're not enjoying it.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Like I don't know. I'm just like, so that must not.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
Even be enjoyable sex, so you must only care about
the validation, which I relate to in a really depressing way.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
But like that's so sad.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
Yeah, it reminds me of the only five minutes I
watched of Killers of the Flower Moon. I turned on
Killers of the Flower Moon, and I'm like, first of all,
I see three hours and thirty six minutes or whatever
on the thing, like I don't know, and then like
the first five minutes is just like Robert de Niro
and Leonardo DiCaprio in Old Timey outfits. How many times
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have I seen this? Eight million fucking times? And old
timey outfits like oh, which war is this one? Oh,
somebody's just back home for more? Off the train. I've
seen this a million times. And then he's like he's
talking to Robert Genio about god knows what, and he's like.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Ah, do you lock me some women? And I'm like,
all right, fuck off, I have to turn this off.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
It's just like uugh, Like it's like, I don't know, like,
you don't like your You don't like you some women
like you don't like you some women. That's what I
want to say this Shep, if I ever see him,
You don't like you some women. You like attention to
validation because you have a hole in your soul that
can't be filled.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
I'm so interested to how everyone grew up. I wish
there could be prequels to all Bravo shows where we
could see their parents raising them.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
I know it's interesting with Shep because for someone to
come from so much privilege and to be sort of
a golden boy in his family, but there's so much
alcoholism in his family.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
Like I remember one time.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
And that it's so classic, like these waspy old money
people like just the addiction and not having no purpose
and you know what's interesting. Okay, So first of all,
there was one episode with his parents where his mom
opened the fridge and like the amount of wine in
the fridge that was open even you know what I mean,
It's like, that's not even all the wine they have.
That's just like how many bottles they happen to have
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open at this moment.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
It's like, so something's going on there.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
And first of all, and second of all, he said
at the reunion, like I feel like I have no.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Purpose basically, and it's like that was really dark.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
Yeah, and it's like I think that's so it's like
that weird documentary that people started to watch after the
election that Avanka Trump was in that was basically about
like rich kids and they all were just like depressed
and aimless and like had no reason to live because
it's like, well, you have all the privilege in the world,
so you have no reason to really work, so you
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have no really reason to find a passion, and there's
no reason to settle down because there's this feeling of
like anything is possible. Why given to something?
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Right? You know, it's just weird.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
But you know what else is weird though, Like, so
then he starts doing that thing with Taylor, which he
was like, well, I have been thinking about how like
I if it was another life or something, I would
have settled down with you. If it wasn't for the show,
I would have set And I'm like, that's so fucked.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Up, because there's no way.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
He has feelings for her, like the way that he
was taught, the way you're right, the way that he's
talked now multiple times about like if she did have
sex with Austin, he basically doesn't care. That's fine, but
you then you don't have feelings for her, right, I
can't tell.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
With him, like I think that it's it's so depressing
for Stoff to be like, if it weren't for Southern charm,
we would be married. It's like Southern charm is keeping
you from being married. Right, It's not like you're saying like,
if it weren't for my you know, career as a
doctor and just tending to patience all day, I would
be able to, you know, move faster in a relationship.
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He's literally like, if it weren't for the fact that
I am a famous Bravo star and I get married.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
To go to Jamaica and drink giant drinks with Tiki Straws.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Yeah, like okay for six months out of the year.
I I think that he's a truly angry person. Like
I think that he was really angry at Austin. I
think that he's happy that JT punched Austin or whatever
transpired on the stool fight.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
I mean, I just to talk to me Austin. Sure
it was ripped, so something happened.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Not is like the biggest loser of all time, And
I couldn't be happier that he's on my TV screen.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
Like him and Rod like hyping each other up is
like what I'm tuting in for.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
That's what I'm tooting in for next season.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Honestly, how he literally told Taylor, I love you and
I would marry you tomorrow. You're like you are obviously
new to television, Like he is just putting it all
out there. He knows that he needs to become a
part of this cat like he you know, there's sometimes
there's a housewife on a new season who doesn't really
know what her job is, and then there's the dam
McSweeney's who come on, they're like, I have to lose
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my mind to get another season, Like I have to
really go for it. And JT is like one of
those crazy housewives where he's like I every dinner he
started a fight, he stood up and said like.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
You're not a man. You're not a real man, Like
you're not a gentleman.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
Yeah, he did the lord's work, and you know what
it's like, And what does he say? I think I'm
about to do a fuck boy exorcism tonight. I was
like okay, and.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
It's like he was like, calm down.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
It's been like ten men, it's the seconds I know,
well I know, and.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
It's like, you know what. Well. Two things.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
One, this season on all the shows aside from Beverly
Hills has been amazing for freshman cats coming in like
as the kids say, Rent was due to like give
an insane performance. But number two, I did speak of
Andy's saying that to JT. I thought it was really
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sweet that Andy was like you like he was like
sweet with shep.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
I like when it shows that Andy's like, these have
actually been my colleagues for many rights and I care
about them.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
I am on the Bravo side of you know, a
Bethany versus Bravo obviously, yeah, and so I was glad
they included him telling Shep like, yeah, you really need
to get a control over your drinking.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
I know, like he was like kind, but he also
was like, you need to do something about that.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
And that's the thing. He will ask the tough questions.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
He will say, well have you quit drinking, but he
will let you say your piece.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Now let me say this. Then we moved to the
female friendship part of.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
The evening and oh, it's also funny, like, by the way,
let me say this. Southern Hospitality is one of the
worst things that Bravo has ever tried to make happen.
I like tuned in almost involuntarily because season two, episode one,
like came on right after the finale of Southern Charm,
and I watched all of season one and I thought,
this is not good, but I think it could get better.
(27:20):
Grace Lily is definitely like a star true fan that way,
I'm like, I think it could get better.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
Grace Lily is great.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
Like Grace Lily is literally like this insanely hot, like
influencer girl who like farts in her confessionals and is like,
did I fart anyway?
Speaker 2 (27:34):
So I think.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
Maddie and like she's like yeah, Like she like she
is the one that I'm like, this is actually worth watching,
where like she like lives with her mom and like
she's like, so, I live with my mom and it's
because I don't want to spend money on rent and
I don't care. So and I love hula hooping, okay. So,
and you're just like who are you? Like you are
(27:55):
not real? And I will say in season two, episode
one or two, she's like, I'm like, I will not
be watching this. In season two episodes seventeen, second, thirty eight,
but she's like she's talking to her boyfriend. He's like, well,
it's just been really hard for me that you like
talk to other guys, and she's like message with them
on Instagram, like it's not that bad. So, and she
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also her friend is like thinks her boyfriend's cheating on her,
and she's like, so Maddie's upset because she thinks Trevor's
cheating And on the one hand, like that's like upsetting,
but on the other hand, like for me, it's really
fun when I have a boyfriend that my friends also
have a boyfriend, so I don't really want her to
break up with her boyfriend because then we can't.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
All hang out as couples. So she's amazed love that
kind of a maturity.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
Everything else on the show is so boring, so lame,
I don't care and whatever. But it's like the restaurant
is called Republic, and I was watching the Reunion part
one with someone who like doesn't normally watch the show,
and so Andy's like, Leva, who's watching Republic while you're away?
And she's like, the kids are watching Republic And the
person I was watching with was like, is always Republic
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their son's name?
Speaker 2 (29:04):
And I'm like, the thing that's fucked up.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
Is like that could easily be true because we're we're
in a world where people's kids are named Cruise.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Cash, Like you know what I mean. So I eat Hudson.
I mean, Hudson's like relatively normal, pretty name.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
Yeah, but it is like, yeah, Republic is actually a place.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
So the female friendship portion of the evening is where
this thing gets brought up.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
So Taylor says, I just think you should forget. She
says to Olivia, forgive as you would like to be forgiven.
And Olivia's eyes light up and she's like, this is
like the energy I love. Or she's like say it,
come on, you've been holding it over my head, just
say it. Yep, And she knew Taylor kind of and
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and this is great. This was great TV. I was
upset that it was sprawled from me on Instagram. This
is great TV because you look around and nobody knows
what she's talking about. And Olivia admits to hooking up
with the worst villain on any Bravo show. I believe
because he's an actual rapist, Thomas Ravenel. She was twenty
(30:07):
years old, had a crazy night in homes up with
Thomas Ravenel, and she's like, of course, I want to
take that to my grave. You see Austin looking like horrified,
Like everyone is looking so horrified. As Andy once said,
like can't they like people hook up outside of the show.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
It's such a weird little you know.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
I mean, the things I did at twenty don't even
you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Like she was twenty, so to me, I'm like, who
even cares? No?
Speaker 1 (30:31):
If anything, You're like, Thomas Rabinell is so disgusting, like
he she was like a family friend of his, and
you're like.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
And he's he was like sixty at the time, what
it was like three different families by then, exactly, I know.
But also it's like I thought it was really it
shows her character that she was like, so that happened.
Madison mentioned it in the reunion. Taylor defended me, and so,
as Taylor's friend, I told her you should know the
truth is that did happen.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
Which I was like, oh, so you're like a very honest,
stand up person.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
And she's like, and so, who's the one person who
knew Taylor and who's using it against me at the
first opportunity they have. And I was like, so this
was actually perfect, perfect work on Olivia's part to turn
it around, turn it around on Taylor. Like that's why
she was so excited to be like say it, because
she's like, I know, I'm about to fucking slam you
in the dust.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
And she said you're a shitty friend, and now I
know you're a shitty human being, which I was like,
oh my god, because the least Taylor can do is
just not like betray her friend even more, I know.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
And that's the thing too, where she lost me because
it's like in the finale, she has that conversation with Shep.
It brings us back to this place of like this
narrative place of Okay, she's acting like a total asshole
right now to everyone she comes into contact with, but
she's clearly in a lot of pain from this guy.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
Who fucked her up. Okay, I am.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
But then at the reunion it's like, no, you're actually
just like being a fucked up person at this point,
it's like there's no justification of this of like you
know what I mean, Like she left that place of
like I.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
Know I fucked up.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, And instead she was like,
I am gonna try to make you look bad now,
and I will say something something that happened this week
that was important for me. In the Bravo Verse is
a focus on female friendship, and I saw on Instagram
Catherine Dennis posted a picture of her highly facetune picture,
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highly facetoon picture of her with Olivia and the caption says,
we have never been closer. You did nothing wrong and
you didn't and you don't need to worry about being
judged by me.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
How beautiful is that?
Speaker 4 (32:39):
It?
Speaker 3 (32:39):
Was very, very tender, and then Olivia commented, love you,
my girl, thank you for always looking out.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
I just thought that was gorgeous. Yes, we need.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
Lack of judgment to maintain female friendships.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
And then I felt like on Beverly Hills, I loved
how I felt like this episode showed.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
A lot of like.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
Fun, like the girls having fun with each other and
then supporting each other, like they went to Kyle's little like.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
Celebration of life slash charity. I was crying during this episode.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
That was so it was beautiful and you know what
I put into perspective too, like it is kind of
like everyone was being like, well, she really changed her life,
like she stopped drinking, she's working out, Like yeah, she
went through like the most traumatic thing I can imagine,
and she lost her best friend and she of course
like went through this huge shift and now she's like,
I just want to be around people who make me
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feel good because life's too short.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
Wow, that makes sense. And who's not there next to her?
Fucking Mo? Fucking Mo?
Speaker 1 (33:44):
Who is flag Morgan Wade? My my nice ship goals?
I would I will be disappointed if it turns out
then nothing's going on between Kyle and Morgan. I will
be upset, just like I was happy when Craig I
found out Craig Conover was adventurous, And I will be
sad if I find out that Morgan Wade and Kyle
Richards are just friends. I don't see a universe where
(34:05):
they're just friends, but.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
But it would be sad if that's the case.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
Yeah, I do feel like Kyle might be doing some
queer baiting, like how out of nowhere?
Speaker 2 (34:15):
She's like, would you guys ever date a woman? I know,
but it's a little jacob Elordius, but uh yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
I was emotional this episode of Real House Hours to
Beverly Hills. I also thought it was telling that someone
brought up like, oh, would you be okay if your
partner communicate with women on the internet?
Speaker 2 (34:38):
And Kyle's like, I hate that. I hate that.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
Like Mauricio, like me and Maurice, you have gotten into
it about that, Like I hate like, don't you don't
have to like everyone's pictures? You don't have to follow people?
And I'm like, oh my god, Mauricio is a cheater.
Like I know it takes a few leaps to get there,
but you're like, oh, Mauricio is probably like dming with women, right,
and that's not okay, no, no, no, no, no, not
in my book.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
Can I also just say that I one hundred percent
believe PK and Derry doing quote unquote couples therapy by
their pool at the fire pit with a woman they
greeted as sweetie and my love. Yeah, is fake and
they're just looking for a storyline. I can tell when
people are in love, they are completely in love. I
(35:22):
don't think that they are on the verge of divorce,
but they just need something to talk about so they
don't go bankrupt.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
I completely agree. And I think that PK is like
a housewife in his own right where he can get
to tears really quickly if you just give him a
sec And I think those tears were crocodiles tears, but
I'm fine with them. Like I told you, I have
like a weird sexual attraction, a peak really and I
feel that way too, where I'm just like, even though
you're broke, even though you're like just like the old
(35:50):
man with like two kids named Phoenix and Jagger, I
don't know, I can just see myself happily married to
you with like.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
His sweats on and like just walking around eating pizza
and fucking being.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
Slap getting the shit out of his own pictures.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
I just love it. Does he do that?
Speaker 1 (36:06):
Yeah, it's so funny. He like glosses over his pictures.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
Did you see Gypsy Rose found face tune this week? Oh?
Speaker 3 (36:15):
No, So what's in the news Gypsy Rose found face
tune this week? No?
Speaker 2 (36:22):
Yeah, it's it's a beautiful world to be in.
Speaker 3 (36:28):
This this couple's therapy by the pool aside world is
it's a good place to be. And I will say
I when Sutton was kind of like glowing talking about
her date that went well, I was like, you're like beautiful, actually.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
Sutton is I hate tid Oh sorry, I hate is
a strong word. I really didn't like Sutton when she
started on the show, and she has grown on me.
She's just one of those people who I think really
belongs on the show. She's an eccentric weirdo who wears
like sweaters with cats on them, but she also happens
to be like a multi millionaire and says she has
(37:02):
a small esophagus, which is.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
Anne Marie is already like not for me. I just
don't care. She's so boring. She's so boring.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
And did you catch that thing where she was talking
about her husband and she was like, my husband, he
said that I'm an eight and a half at everything, and.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
That's why you married me. I didn't. She was like,
oh my god.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
She was like in her confessional being like my husband said,
I'm I'm not the prettiest, I'm not the smartest, but
I'm yes, I mud have been on my phone for this,
but I'm an eight and a half at everything. Oh
and he said my looks were a nine. And you're like,
what if my husband told me that, I would say,
are you high?
Speaker 3 (37:42):
You're not the prettiest, you're not the smartest, but you're
like fine.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
You're not the best chef, you're not the but you're
eight and a half at everything. And she was like
so proud and thought that was so charming, and I
was like, uh, yeah, I don't think that I would
be smiling if someone said that to me.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
That's actually really sad. But yeah, she doesn't really bring
anything to offer. I'm like, it's just a stretch.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
It's a stretch. They could do so much better in
Beverly Hills, you know, they sure could well. I will
let you guys know how my body heals from this
last surgery. We will keep you guys posted as more
reunions come out. God bless Andy Cohen for bringing us
this bomb.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
In these sorry one were time. Thank God for Andy Cohen.
We love him so much. And you know, I never
asked to be in the middle of a fight between
Bethany and Andy, but I will have to choose Andy's side.
And yes, it was probably because Bethany dressed up as
(38:47):
a cop with her daughter for Halloween one year and
that was the final straw for me.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
That was tough.
Speaker 3 (38:55):
Yeah, I just give thanks sometimes like these, like when
the when ill Yvontie was happening, a girl from my
high school and I DMed about it and she said,
we're so lucky to be alive right now, and I
was like, I genuinely feel that way, Like I do
genuinely feel that way.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
And the Summer House trailer, like we're gonna get to
see Carl and lindsay break up.
Speaker 3 (39:15):
Okay, don't even get me started on that though, because
I have so many theories about that.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
Okay, well we'll get into it on another episode, but
for now, I love you, Devin, love you.
Speaker 4 (39:25):
Caroled slid. I want you.
Speaker 3 (39:46):
Sits so romantic.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
Love me, baby, don't leave me, haggin.
Speaker 4 (39:57):
I want true oh in my arms.
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