February 1, 2024 • 41 mins
Devin and Carolina discuss the stunning most perfect dating show of all time Love on the Spectrum US and all the love lessons contained with in it then discuss some updates in their own dating lives!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Oh, hello, and welcome to true Romance. This is Carolina Barlow,
this is Devin Leary. Congrats to womankind on a Taylor
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sweat super Bowl about to.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Be happening, about to be happening. We are happening to
go to the super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
I think, you know what's so funny is that I don't.
I've kind of the travist and Taylor thing has grown
old for me. But I do get excited every time
I see her at a game saying what she wears
popular girl. It's it's how I was in high school,
which was a voyeur and in middle school, like I
would stare at my friends when they would make out
with their boyfriends, like I was just it sounds creepy,
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but I was just like enthralled by like the majesty
of it all and the glamour of it all.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
I remember my friend Heartbreak Prince. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
I remember after a school dance, my friend being like,
you watched me and Jerry Tula make out for so long,
and I was like, I know, wow, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Interesting.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
So I am excited for the super Bowl for that reason.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
I'm excited to see like her. I guess there's a
video of them. Actually, I'm like, why did you care
about watching them make out? Well, I guess there's a
video of Taylor and Travis kissing after he won, so
can't wait to watch that. So I'm excited and it'll
be something normally I only care about the halftime show.
Now I'll have some other little tidbits to look at.
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This is true, yeah, but it's depressing on Vegas. Oh
my god, that is really depressing. Today we're talking about
love on the spectrum. But I just want to jump
to the exciting part, which is that tonight I'm going
on a date.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
You have to day?
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Yes, Oh my god, I didn't know. I literally in
my New Year's resolutions, I put like, Okay, I want
to read this many scripts. I want to work out
this many times, I want to watch this many movies.
Da da, And I was like, go on one date,
just going one day, just going wow.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
So what's their deal?
Speaker 1 (02:17):
This guy? I found him on Hinge Standouts.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Oh yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Forgot to follow up on that because you said you
love the standouts.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
You gotta go for the standouts. You got to buy
a bunch of roses. You just gotta do it. Bite
the bullet, unsubscribe from Riyah and buy roses and Hinge
standouts and let's just say I've given away more than
seventy four roses. And let's just say I matched with
one person so far from the standouts. Oh, and let's
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just say that I'm going to call that a win.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
I think that's all. I'm gonna call that a win.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
And I really liked his attitude where he was just
kind of like, great, let's get together. I'll find and
find out my schedule. He has a dog. I don't
know if he's funny yet, but I'm I'm really going
into this as someone who needs to get some reps in.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
That's amazing. So where are you guys gonna go?
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Oh, this is all because of you. We're going to
get magpies. Because he was sort of intimating to get that.
It's like ice cream pie.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
That place we went there.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
We sure did. I think that you inspired me because
we were going to go to dinner and I was like,
what if twenty minutes in, I'm like this is hell
And I'm like I can just finish my pie and
say this was so nice, thank you for coming, goodbye.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
That's so exciting.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Yeah, I feel I feel excited to go against my
everything that I'm all instinct I have because my instinct
is my hand's not healed yet. He's gonna get freaked
by up by that I'm like fifteen pounds at least
fifteen pounds heavier than when the photos I have on
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my hinge profile. I don't really like driving right now.
And how will he feel when he finds out that
he is talking to a girl in LA who doesn't
like to drive. I live with my mom and my sister.
Will he be turned off by that? All of the
things are telling me that, like, I am not supposed
to go on a date right now, and I'm just
gonna say no to all of those and just do
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it anyway totally.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
And did you not find love on the spectrum? Inspiring
for that when they have that conversation about like, Okay,
the worst that could happen is you get out of
the house and you meet someone and you share an experience.
That's the worst that can happen. And sometimes that the
experience is really bad.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
And I've had that, but I've always learned from it.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
And I also think that something that's been really helping
me this year is thinking of like everything that I've
been through and was completely fine.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
You know what I mean, think about.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Like the stuff that has actually happened, and it was
worst case scenario, and then it was completely fine. So
who cares first of all? And at the end of
the day, like, well, okay, let me say this. I've
had some horrible date experiences. I've had my heart broken,
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I've had someone say something completely judgmental and offensive about
my appearance or my lifestyle and on a date and
here I still stand in front of you happy.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Don't even think twice about those people. They suck. I'm great.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
No, I'm kidding, but like, no, that's true.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
And also.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
I just think like doing it anyway is the coolest
thing anyone can do.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Well.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
I learned a lot from love on the Spectrum, and
I guess what I learned was, you're on the spectrum.
No I am a little bit. I literally watching you know,
Connor's mom like try to get get him down from
like a ten of emotion. I was like, oh, everyone
in my life has had to do this for me,
my entire life, and be like, okay, you're a little
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ahead of yourself.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Da da da.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
But what I really learned was that bravery is key
to love. Yes, to finding love, you have to be brave.
And it's easy to complain about how there's no one
in your life. I've done it all, like my whole life.
But one thing I really admire about you is that
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you've put like the legwork in to meet people and
watching these people who are on the spectrum, who've had
the world show them incredible cruelty, and still they're so
they're braver than I could ever be, because I think
that just knowing myself, I would shut down and I
would just be like, the world's not a safe place
and I'm not going to join and fuck anyone who
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tries to get me out of my shell. And instead
they're really willing to go out there and take a
risk and get to know someone and being honest with
someone on a first date and like letting those feelings
of discomfort come and facing them. And I was texting
with this guy and he was like, do you want
to meet up Wednesday or Thursday? Where I could also
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meet up tonight, And I, of course, I'm like, let's
meet up Thursday, because in my head, I'm like, I can't,
this is way too overwhelming, Like tonight, what are you
talking about? And then thinking about the show, I was like,
you know what, let's meet up tonight, Like I'm gonna
be brave. I'm not gonna wait a week and just
be like building this up into my head as like
the scariest thing of all time. I was going to
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go on a date tonight and make it really fun
and relaxing and optimistic. And I don't think that bravery
equals things working out, but I do believe it. It
means something will have been totally What is this quote
I have.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
On my fridge that I'm trying to read because I
have been had it there for a year and it's
so helpful.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
And you're still trying to read it because my New
York's resolution so so that with.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Me unrelated you tell your vulnerable.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
So I'm like, well, I'm going to read this year.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
So I've been trying something too, and it's trying to read. No,
it's the moment we.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
The moment we decide to love, we begin to move
towards freedom. It's bell Hooks, okay, and it means the
moment we decide. I read it every day thinking the
moment we decide to love ourselves the moment we look
in the mirror and say you're beautiful and perfect and
if someone like that's another thing. Okay, I know exactly
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what you mean. All the stuff that comes up, what
if this, what if that? What if I'm not? And
sometimes it comes up all at once and like such
an overwhelming way where you're like, wait a second. Like
my experience is like it's one slight thing goes wrong,
like I said something awkward or embarrassing, or like I
I'm like texting with someone and then they don't respond
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for like five hours or so, and I'm like, okay,
so actually I am mentally unstable and everyone knows it,
and everyone thinks I'm weird and everyone thinks that like
I am whatever, and this is happening and I'm not
good enough and by the way, like I don't even
know about this and what my future is and then
I don't even have like a.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Job that that I don't know what I did visit
out and then it just all happens.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
While Devin's saying this, her cat is literally wrestling her.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
I know, why is he doing this? This is what
he decides to do.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
I mean, I love my child so much but he
does decide to attack me every time I'm recording the podcast.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
No, it just overwhelmed me. Look at him.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
He's literally biting me. But at the same time, that
feeling passes. And what I really tell myself is like, Okay,
if someone meets me now, they're not okay with any
certain thing about me. I've actually been you want to
talk about Brave Carolina. I've been opting out of getting
eyelash extensions for financial reasons. Yeah, I've been having to
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choose not to do something like that. So I think
I can understand Love on the Spectrum because I've actually
had a really difficult time recently too.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
No, but I tell myself, this is what I look
like right now.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
If I meet someone they think that I'm not pretty enough,
I don't want to be with them because I want
to look like shit whenever I.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Feel like it and they like me anyway, So was
that helpful? It was?
Speaker 1 (10:40):
It reminds me of something that was said on Love
on the Spectrum where one of the guys says, there's
eight billion people in the world. Someone has to be
a match. I know, and I really feel that way.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
I completely feel that way, and I love how like
you said, Okay, so let me put it this way,
which is that we should have watched Love on the
Spectrum years ago. Ye I never did because I guess
I was afraid of how wholesome it is. But my
boss was like, you have to watch the show. And
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I lost two days of my life to this show.
I literally went from knowing nothing about Love on the
Spectrum to commenting on Instagram lives of the people on
the show, watching like hours of them talking about their
life since the show and what happened, finding out on Reddit,
like if any of the people stayed together, finding out
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that Connor and Tanner are going to hang out on
February tenth, and they are my friends. I love this
show so much, and like you said, one of the
most helpful things about it is that they have autism therapists,
like specialist who also is on the Spectrum, who teaches
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them about dating, and those sessions are really helpful to
because of scenes like where Tanner goes on a date
and he's talking most of the time because he's so excited,
like he just starts asking a bunch of questions and
the date isn't super talkative, so she just gives like
one word responses. So then Tanner has a session with
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Jennifer the therapist, and he's like, sometimes I feel like
I forget exactly what he says. But he's basically like,
sometimes I feel like I have to be in a
good mood all the time, where I have to be
talking all the time otherwise people will think I'm in
a bad mood.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
And she was like, okay, so I'm hearing.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
That you feel a lot of pressure to always be
smiling and feeling good. And he was like yes, and
I thought that was like something everyone can relate to.
And then basically she's like, you can be on a
date and not have anything to say. She says it's
not your job to ask all the questions and keep
the conversation going the whole time, which I think is
also helpful as like women going on dates, because it's
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like there is sometimes it can feel like so stressful.
You're like, oh my god, blank silence blanks, but it's
like okay, and see if they I've literally done that,
and it's been like a test for people. I'm like, Okay,
I'm not going on another date with that person because
I leave the silence to try to see if they'll
ask me a question, and they don't, and I'm like,
all right, so it doesn't seem like you're interested in me.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Bye.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Well, yeah, I actually learned a lot from that woman
who is the therapist, because I thought she gave like
a perfect line for Tanna to say, which she uses
on his date another date that he has, where she
says I don't really have anything else to say, but
I'm having a great time. Yes, and he says it.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
There's a lot to say too about the honesty on
the show and how honest they are with each other
on first dates.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Yes, you're like.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Famously, there's the first date where the guy finds out
the girl he's on a date with wants kids, and
he's like, oh, I don't want kids. I'm sorry, yeah,
and he just immediately lets her know and his parents
are kind of like, well, how did that come up?
And he was like, well, she brought it up, and
to me, it makes perfect sense. Why would you waste
someone's time? Yeah, when you know that you're not aligned.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Well.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
Also, I think that guy was named James, but I'm
not positive. But he also does something that I think
I wish everyone did, which is he'll be like, is
it okay if I tell you more about that? Right,
He's like, is it okay if I tell you like that?
Or I actually have a story about that? Is it
okay if I tell you? Or like do you want
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to hear it? Like just like so like conscientious of
the other person's time, and like obviously, like if I
was in that scenario, I don't know if I'd be
willing to like be honest with someone and actually say like, no,
I don't want to hear about like your golf trip
in Palm Springs. That's not one of his stories. But
I'm just using an example.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
But I think I don't want to hear about yeah things, I.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
Would be like, no, I would not like to hear
about that, thank you, But also okay, speaking.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Of the honesty too. Danny is so iconic and both isanic.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
She's like it has an animation studio and like is
really into animation, And on basically every single date, she'll
be like, so are you interested in animation? And going
to events like San Diego Comic Con, and then if
they say no, she's like's not gonna work.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
One of my favorite reactions was on her first date.
In the first episode of the second season where her
and this guy are hitting it off and he was like, well,
I would love to do this again, and she goes.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Maybe we'll see yeah, but.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Existent and he's like he says again, like well it
was so nice and I'd love to do this again.
She's like, well, we'll see maybe, and I just love
that energy so much and being like yeah, I'm not
going to give you everything. I'm not not going to lie. Yeah,
I'm not really into this.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
I know. She also on another date, said that she
loved the guy or she's like, I'm in love with you.
Did she say on like the first date.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
She did say to this guy Jake that like she
had given her heart to him.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
Oh okay, and then she was like I think you're
really hot and then he's like, okay, I need a second, which,
by the way, I actually thought that is something.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
And it happened on obviously now I'm on.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
Love is Blind, I mean sorry, Love on the spectrum
of Australia and this happened there where someone's like, I
actually need to take a second and step away, and
in Danny's case, on Danny's date, then she's like, oh,
I think I might have like overstepped, like he had
to step away, what happened? And then he actually stepped
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away to write her a love poem and readed to her,
which was incredible on Love's Blind Australia. This girl had
to step away and she's like, I'm actually having a
panic attack, so I'm gonna go home.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
But it was really nice to meet you.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
And the guy was like very respectful about it. And
then Danny broke up with that guy who wrote her
the love poem because he.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Wasn't on her left.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Well let's be real, he wasn't on her level, and
then she ended up finding someone because he wasn't sure
what he wanted to do. I mean, it was a
little judgmental. She was like based on like the degree
program he was in. Like she's like, okay, so you're
still getting your degree. Like I want someone who has
their own animation studio so that we could be a
power couple. And like her aunt and uncle who she
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lives with, are constantly being like, you know, not everyone's perfect,
and she's like, right, and they're not good enough for me.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
But then she finds her true match.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
A down and I forget what he does for work,
but he's successful and she likes that, and he welds
her a piece of brass jewelry, brass and silver, and
I think they're great.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
I think they're still together by the way I follow
her on Instagram. She is also.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Just someone who is I would say that confidence can
be more of a choice than I think. I think
we're always waiting for it, and she's someone who just
kind of makes the choice to be confident.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
It seems like in the sense that like and that
like when she's on.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Dates and they say something that she likes, she goes yes,
which I love. And I think that she talks about
her body and her sexuality in a way that we
often don't expect from people on the spectrum, which is
of course, like in hindsight, belittling and you know, not inclusive.
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But there's just something about her that's really brave and
confident to me. And again, like I can't I keep
using that word, but I can't say enough about how
inspiring the show is to me and about how it's
really brought to light something that I've been missing in
my life, which is just the bravery to like join
people in a human in the human experience, like I've
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just been hiding from that.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
I think that there are so many conversations as opposed
to other dating shows, Like there's so many conversations about
feelings on this one, Like the conversation we were just talking
about where Tanner talks about like not knowing how to
make conversation, and then there's like a conversation with Connor
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where he talks to his mom about like being afraid
to go on dates because he's afraid of change and
he's afraid like things like she's just trying to positively
say like, oh, well, what if you meet someone I
really like them, and then he's like, yeah, that scares
me too, Like I don't know, like I don't know
what to do next then, and like it is it's
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like a lot. It's like okay, so then you do
like someone, then you're signing up for possible heartbreak. But
at the same time, as his mom said, people do
their best growing when things change, and when things don't change,
you don't really grow. It kind of reminds me of
being in relationship with a thirty year old when I
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was twenty two and three years later being like, wow,
I really have completely changed and I feel my views
and perspective have been completely molding like putty this whole time,
as my brain is still forming, and this person seems
to still be the exact same right and doesn't want
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to seem to like do anything different, And like I
remember feeling like like maybe he'll, like.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Like he lost his job.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
At one point, I was like, maybe he'll like go
back to school, like basically like maybe he'll like become
totally different for some reason, and then realizing like he's
not going to and you can't really or it's not
really helpful to be with someone who you want to
be different than they are. And I want to love
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someone in a way where I don't want anything to
be different about that, right, And I want them to
love me in a way where they don't want anything
to be different about me.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Which is not easy.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
It's not easy to not want to change anything about someone,
and I think that also can limit me. I'll speak
for myself when I'm going out there to date, because
I think, a there's things I want to change about myself,
and be what if this guy isn't doesn't fill.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
This quota or whatever.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Why I identified with Connor's journey so much was because
he kept on playing the tape forward too quickly, like
how he was like, what if so many people are
going to see this? I didn't sign up for a
life for the autographs and photographers? What would happen to
princess die?
Speaker 2 (21:42):
You know?
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Like I understand that train of thinking. I understand like, O, hey,
what if the state goes well? That's really scary too.
What if the state goes terribly that's really scary too.
I don't know how I feel. That's a really scary feeling. Probably,
like the scariest is like I don't know how I feel,
and I'm waiting to like feel something or you know
how sort of the journey he goes on with Sasha
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where he asks his friend out on a date. He's
terrified the whole time, and then he's terrified to tell
her that he just wants to be friends. And he
does that, which is like a very brave thing to do,
and his mom is super proud of him because he
showed really good character. But I guess I'm just bringing
that up to say that, like I play the tape
forward way too quickly, Like I'm like, do I like
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this guy's job? Do I like what he does? For
a living do I would am I interested in talking
about that?
Speaker 2 (22:29):
Does he like?
Speaker 1 (22:31):
How what will it look like to combine our incomes?
And instead of just being like, I'm going on a
first date with someone I.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Know, I also was like, Okay, there's so much speed
dating on these shows like season one and season two,
there's like Kaylen, I forget what season she's on.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Kaylen goes on one, Connor goes on one, And I'm like,
is speed dating the answer?
Speaker 3 (22:52):
Like maybe that's the new Like but then I was
like looking up speed dating in Brooklyn and I like
saw nothing, Like I don't think people do that.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Maybe that's something.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
We should do, create a speed dating company. I'm in
because it was interesting. I mean, Caln was someone who
I think was a little bit too not to say
she should be one way or the other, but she
did open every single conversation in a negative like I
felt like she was kind of like negative on the
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idea of men and dating in general, which I've totally
been there, but I don't know that she had like
a totally open mind. And then it sucked because the
first guy that she did like and went on a
date with, he after the first date, he ghosted her
and that sucks too, because it's like hard when someone
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when you know someone like doesn't even necessarily want to
put themselves out there that much, and.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Then they do and then like they get hurt. But
that's also part of it.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
Yeah, That's what I've been trying to keep in mind,
is that, like, there could be some guys I meet
who will prove my narrative true, and I have to
not let them define. I have to make sure that
I'm not trying to that I'm trying to like uphold
other narratives besides my own. Yeah, if that makes sense,
with other different experiences, Like, it'll be very It'll be
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easier for me in a way if like the guy
I go on a date with tonight is just like, oh,
your hand's weird, it's sad that you live with your
mom and sister, and I'm you're fat. Like that would
be so easy because I would just be like, Okay,
you give me permission. She never go on a date.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
You're like mine one and one.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
Because this man has been just walked out of a
mental institution.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
This is Michael.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
Myers actually, and this is the holl they said the
Halloween franchise was done, but they're actually doing another one.
Then Kyler Acrews shows up. She's like, baby, what's what's happening?
Speaker 2 (24:52):
What's happening.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
But I think it's easier in a way for people
to prove you right about your fears, because you're like,
thank God, I don't have to make myself even more
uncomfortable and put myself out there even more. Thank yes,
the world has proven me right. Yes, And instead I
even if this date doesn't work out tonight or I
don't think this is the love of my life, it's
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so refreshing. I'm sorry, I'm like on a high about
going on the state. It's so refreshing to not expect
this to be the love of my life, right And.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
Also, by the way, multiple things, But one thing I
want to say is Connor's experience is also helpful in
that sense where he went to the speed dating event,
he's filling out the thing where you like say yes
or no on someone and eventually directly in front of
them where they could see.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
And he by the way, I just.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
Love him so much, Like I just he's so like
he's so entertaining one and so honest and kind and like, yes,
I just love watching him.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
He makes me so happy.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
I love his relationship with Chewy, his dog.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
And anyway, so he had.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
This girl Emily marked no and then he like the
whole time since the speededaning event was kind of like,
well I wish I marked her yes, but I didn't,
and like I don't know why. And basically his mom again,
who I'm also obsessed with, granite countertop saleswoman.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Who I love.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
She is like, oh, okay, well what if there's like
another option, Like it doesn't have to be that you
can't go out with her, like now, maybe you could
just call them and see.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
And it's like that's a reminder too. It's like nothing
is permanent.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
It's not like because sometimes with the apps and stuff too,
I feel like it's like becomes like yes or no, no, okay,
now I'll never meet this person because like when Caylen
accidentally swiped left on someone, it's like, okay, never mind,
love is over, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
It's like none of this stuff is permanent. It's just
an experience. And and then Connor, I.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
Don't know if he's still with Emily, but he's still
posts with her on Instagram. So either their friends or
they're dating, and I loved when they went on a
date and he brings Chewy because he has a dog name.
I love his mom too, because he's telling his mom
that like the girl Emily that he likes. It turns
out she has a dog named ben after Ben Kenobi,
(27:22):
and he's like, and I have a dog, Chewy, And
the mom's like.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Oh my god. And then you have a dog from start,
Oh my god, sorry, wait can we meet her?
Speaker 3 (27:28):
Am I getting ahead of myself, But it's like kind
of cute because they both have dogs named after Star
Wars characters. And then when they go to meet up
on the date, he's talking to Chewy, like when Emily's
approaching and he's like, Okay, so be cool, Chewy, just
be yourself, and it was like he was talking to
himself and it was so sweet.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Jo is so sweet.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
There's a sweetness that I think like the world needs,
and it definitely comes from people on the spectrum. And
there's a vulnerara that I keep. You know, one thing
my therapist said to me about like my scars, was
she was like, you're gonna have to be vulnerable faster
than a lot of other people are vulnerable, and watching
(28:13):
Love on the Spectrum, like all these people are so
vulnerable so quickly because they have a diagnosis that they're
sharing with someone just by being themselves. And I think
that's like an incredibly vulnerable, incredibly brave thing to do,
and it's made me feel more willing to be vulnerable.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
Love that.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
And you have inspired me by going on like so
many dates and just being open to, like you said,
the experience of it all and not being like every
day like I think this might be my boyfriend, Like
You've just always been like, Okay, I'm gonna go meet
this person.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
I will say I have been extremely open minded in
terms of types of people I go out. I've never
been someone who's like, wait this small detail.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
No, I'm always like, yeah, whatever, I'll go out with whoever.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
But I will say that I did meet someone that
I like a few weeks ago, but I nervous to
talk about it because I don't have to want to
screw it up. But I but one thing I want
to say about it is that something that I was saying,
and I'm not sure if I said at one point
on the podcast for a while was like I was
(29:31):
like I'm not gonna just go on app dates with
anyone anymore, it has to be like an amazing back
and forth conversation and like the like I just had
had so many awkward first dates with people who just
immediately were like, let's go out whatever, and I was like, Okay, no,
I have to have like a long, really funny back
and forth with someone to go on a date. But
this date a few weeks ago was not that. And
(29:54):
it was Rian, by the way, which I hate. Ryan
always talks shit about it, but it was like not
that much of a back and forth, and I thought
his opening message was really lame and weird, and I
made fun of it, and then we like went back
and forth, and then my plans canceled and I was like,
I'm free tonight, like if you like, I.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Just kind of wasn't.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
I didn't expect anything of it because I was like, okay,
I don't even know and who cares. Like I thought
he was attractive, but I was like, it wasn't like
we were like messaging flirting so much like oh my god.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
We're gonna meet and it's gonna whatever.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
And I did the thing that you're doing tonight, which
is that we went and got I think it was
actually his idea though, But we just got coffee and
walked around the park. But then it went so well
that then we decided to get dinner. So it was
like really good because if it hadn't been going well,
there would have been many easy points to be like,
I actually am like really cold. I think I'm gonna go,
(30:45):
but it wasn't like that, so but we'll see.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
Okay, Well, that's really exciting and I can't wait to
hear more about that, and I know our listeners can't
wait to hear more too, But no pressure. I think it's.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
Ronda Shandisky.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
Actually his idea. He says we're presidential race. That's all
I'm gonna say.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
His schedule is freeing up ladies, sir. Let's just say
I want to share traders Thursdays.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
He's going to be right on the couch with me.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
He wears the cues of Cowboy Boostine does a little
dance where he kicks his heels together.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
Ron Ron, Ron, imagine imagine speaking of Ariana Grande, which
we're not, but her song where it's like amad in
the world like that, it's like a mad a world
like that.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
Me and Ron are sank just dancing in cowboy boots.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
It's both like incredible and so depressing at the same time.
All right, imagine a world like that.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
Okay, but sorry, just one quick side note, what are
your thoughts on? Yes, and it is kind of controversial
because she's like who she who cares?
Speaker 2 (32:00):
That's what I did.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
I broke up a marriage, I broke up a family. Yeah,
and yes, And I'm also just like okay, so she's
kind of going to her R and B persona and
she's like, like, who gives a shit? What dick I
ride or something. It's like, okay, you're talking about SpongeBob,
(32:21):
Like I just can't those two don't meet.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
It's also like, well, people give a shit who's dick
you ride? When the dick is connected to a full
family that it's responsible for, you know what I mean, Like,
people do give a shit about that. And it's like
kind of reminds me of like when she came out
with break up with your girlfriend because I'm bored, and like,
I get so I find her charming, I love her music,
(32:45):
so I do get like bewitched by her, where I'm like, oh,
I love Arianna. And then she comes out with a
song like that where I'm like, wait, what the fuck?
Like she's basically being like, yeah, I did make whoever
she was with at the time break up with their
girlfriend because I was bored so and it's like, that's it.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
That hurts our feelings, that got hurt okay.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
And like I don't care that it's SpongeBob. I think
that's weird, but anyone can be attracted to whoever. I
care that, like there was a relationship involved, and by
the way, it who knows, we don't know the details.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
Maybe he was already broken up with his wife.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
Fine, then don't come out with a song that's like
who cares? Like have the compassion to be like, I
understand that this might be hard for a woman with
a child and my ex husband if I immediately come
out with a song about me and this guy saying
I don't give a fuck and I say that shit
with my chest. Yes, And but that being said, I
love the song and I listen.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
To it every day.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
Oh okay, the song to me, it feels a little
bit like someone played like dance mix on garage band
and then sang over it. That makes sense, But totally
I'm happy for you know the Ariana fans out there.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
What are her fans called Orientators? Arienators?
Speaker 3 (34:02):
And by the way, I do think like talking and
singing is never for me.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
It's never a talk. Break is never something I look for.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
Taylor swifts, we yeah, never getting back together.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
So he calls me, but he's like, hey, I still
love you, and I'm like, oh my god, Like this
is exhaustic. I don't whenever I love that song so much,
and I'm always like, fucking I'm always like imagining myself,
like maybe I should sing this at karaoke, Like I
would be so amazing sing this karaoke. And then it
gets to the talking part and I'm like, oh, I
would have to stop and say so he calls me up,
(34:40):
but he's like and I'm like, well, I can't do that.
I can't fucking whatever.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
So yeah, our stance is no to talking during songs.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
No talking during songs, no talking during movies, no talking during.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
It doesn't feel natural, okay, And then.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
Yeah, at anytime I don't want to basically, how about that.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
Yeah, I thought, if you're not good at it, don't
do it.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
No, that's so true. It's like, you know, what is
my biggest pet peeve. It's not my biggest pet peeve.
I actually think it's the most fascinating thing is people
who converse by doing like icebreakers, like like that's how
they naturally talk. It's like horrible, So, by the way,
what was your favorite album of the year?
Speaker 2 (35:22):
Really? Oh so, by the way, like what's your favorite
chain restaurant?
Speaker 3 (35:26):
Like people actually talk like that because they don't know
how to be like, hey, this is something real and
authentic about me, so instead they're like, oh, you go
to Blue Bottle, Oh what do you get? Like it's
like I don't give a shit.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
I mean, we've shipped on so many people's Hinge prompts,
but one of them that I hate is like, tell
me about the last best concert you've been to.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
I know, no, I don't want to.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
Just ask me about my last relationship and why it
didn't work out, and then we'll like at least like
have a conversation to get into Well.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
Hannah Cottson, who is a friend of the pod, sent
me a TikTok where basically this guy found Lucas Gage
on hinge.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
Have you seen this?
Speaker 3 (36:07):
No, Apparently Lucas Gauge is on hinge and that's the
really hot guy from White Lotus if you're wondering, and
he has a voice prompt on his profile, but it's
clearly Meg Stalter recording it, and it's basically her. It's
like best travel story and it's like her being like, hey, yeah,
I went to Disney World with my daughter, like it
was amazing.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
And then like, wouldn't you know it? When I was
packing up to go, I was like, where is that
little girl? And I didn't know where she was?
Speaker 3 (36:33):
And it's so funny, and I'm like, oh my god,
that's genius. So I think when people can use how
stupid the app is to their advantage, I love that.
But then also sometimes when people are really funny, they're hiding,
So I don't.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
Know, Yes, okay, when people are really funny, they're hiding.
When people are like fuck this app, that's when I'm like, no,
I know, I'm here, we're here together, we've met here.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
I know.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
I also just can't handle like, Okay, one stupid picture
is great, forced stupid pictures. You're making a mockery of
my stupid.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
Pictures, like who are you?
Speaker 3 (37:04):
And like I don't trust you, and like maybe you
shouldn't be here like, yeah, I do think you have
to have at one at least one like genuine thing
where you're like and and by the way, you have
to give someone something they can like respond to. And
when your whole profile is like I don't give a
fuck about this stupid bullshit, then like what am I
supposed to say?
Speaker 2 (37:24):
Like how is your Sunday? You know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (37:27):
It's like you have to have like whatever I like
to watch Survivor or something someone can be like, oh,
do me too.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
Right now, precisely getting a little nervous. At least it's
not New York where I would literally actually act done
in La too, I would show up to a date
and then leave before they could get a chance to
meet me. I once drove to Venice, California, texted the guy,
called him. He was like where are you? And then
I left that just a long drive to just leave.
(37:58):
But you know what, even if you do do that,
that's fine. If you do that tonight, I definitely am
going to show up tonight because I'm doing this as
like a way of showing up for myself and not
hiding from the world. And again, love on the spectrum
has made me brave, but I'm nervous and I'm going
to I'm just gonna go with that feeling and not
(38:19):
try to make it disappear.
Speaker 3 (38:21):
Oh and by the way, I just forgot to mention
my other favorite couple on the show.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
I mean, they're all my favorite couple.
Speaker 3 (38:26):
I love Sue bad and Rachel I think was his
girlfriend in season one and now he has a different girlfriend.
I don't know why I'm so involved in all these
people's lives on Instagram, but Abby and David the couple
the one couple that lasted from season one to season two.
They're so sweat and perfect. And by the way, Abby's
(38:46):
mom is like my favorite person who's ever lived. I
also follow her her TikTok I think literally is Abby's mom,
Like that's what her handle is. But I love the
conversation when she's like, I feel nervous and her mom said, well,
it's normal to feel nervous, and something you could say
is I'm feeling kind of nervous right now, David, and
he might say I'm feeling kind of nervous too, And
(39:07):
I was like, that's so true. Like I love when
someone says they're nervous. If you are vulnerable. That's the
other thing if I think something that we saw on
this show too, is like, if you are vulnerable and
talk about your feelings, then someone else can have the
opportunity to do that too, like say, I'm not sure
what else to say, but I'm having a really good time.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
Me too, Yeah, okay, we're both in the same boat.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
I think this is a really good point. And I
think also you can't ruin things that aren't supposed to
be like I just I'm a big believer in like
you can say all of the wrong things and leave
too early and be flustered. And if this is someone
who wants to get to know you, they will make
it their position to get to know you.
Speaker 3 (39:52):
Yes, that's completely true. I agree the stars are aligned
for you tonight.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
Well, I can't wait to tell everyone next week how
it goes. And hopefully it won't be my only date.
That I'll go on more and I'll make this more
of a habit and I can start telling the listeners
my experiences and like Connor's mom said, I get to
grow out of making this change. And I'm grateful to
everyone who's listened and been on my journey thus far.
Speaker 2 (40:18):
I can't wait to hear about it.
Speaker 3 (40:20):
Love you, Devin, love you, Caroled Sid. I want you
TU soon, so romantic.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
Love me, baby, don't leave me, haggin.
Speaker 3 (40:51):
I want truth
Oh, hello, and welcome to true Romance. This is Carolina Barlow,
this is Devin Leary. Congrats to womankind on a Taylor
(00:24):
sweat super Bowl about to.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Be happening, about to be happening. We are happening to
go to the super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
I think, you know what's so funny is that I don't.
I've kind of the travist and Taylor thing has grown
old for me. But I do get excited every time
I see her at a game saying what she wears
popular girl. It's it's how I was in high school,
which was a voyeur and in middle school, like I
would stare at my friends when they would make out
with their boyfriends, like I was just it sounds creepy,
(00:54):
but I was just like enthralled by like the majesty
of it all and the glamour of it all.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
I remember my friend Heartbreak Prince. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
I remember after a school dance, my friend being like,
you watched me and Jerry Tula make out for so long,
and I was like, I know, wow, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Interesting.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
So I am excited for the super Bowl for that reason.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
I'm excited to see like her. I guess there's a
video of them. Actually, I'm like, why did you care
about watching them make out? Well, I guess there's a
video of Taylor and Travis kissing after he won, so
can't wait to watch that. So I'm excited and it'll
be something normally I only care about the halftime show.
Now I'll have some other little tidbits to look at.
(01:40):
This is true, yeah, but it's depressing on Vegas. Oh
my god, that is really depressing. Today we're talking about
love on the spectrum. But I just want to jump
to the exciting part, which is that tonight I'm going
on a date.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
You have to day?
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Yes, Oh my god, I didn't know. I literally in
my New Year's resolutions, I put like, Okay, I want
to read this many scripts. I want to work out
this many times, I want to watch this many movies.
Da da, And I was like, go on one date,
just going one day, just going wow.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
So what's their deal?
Speaker 1 (02:17):
This guy? I found him on Hinge Standouts.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Oh yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Forgot to follow up on that because you said you
love the standouts.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
You gotta go for the standouts. You got to buy
a bunch of roses. You just gotta do it. Bite
the bullet, unsubscribe from Riyah and buy roses and Hinge
standouts and let's just say I've given away more than
seventy four roses. And let's just say I matched with
one person so far from the standouts. Oh, and let's
(02:45):
just say that I'm going to call that a win.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
I think that's all. I'm gonna call that a win.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
And I really liked his attitude where he was just
kind of like, great, let's get together. I'll find and
find out my schedule. He has a dog. I don't
know if he's funny yet, but I'm I'm really going
into this as someone who needs to get some reps in.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
That's amazing. So where are you guys gonna go?
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Oh, this is all because of you. We're going to
get magpies. Because he was sort of intimating to get that.
It's like ice cream pie.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
That place we went there.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
We sure did. I think that you inspired me because
we were going to go to dinner and I was like,
what if twenty minutes in, I'm like this is hell
And I'm like I can just finish my pie and
say this was so nice, thank you for coming, goodbye.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
That's so exciting.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Yeah, I feel I feel excited to go against my
everything that I'm all instinct I have because my instinct
is my hand's not healed yet. He's gonna get freaked
by up by that I'm like fifteen pounds at least
fifteen pounds heavier than when the photos I have on
(03:56):
my hinge profile. I don't really like driving right now.
And how will he feel when he finds out that
he is talking to a girl in LA who doesn't
like to drive. I live with my mom and my sister.
Will he be turned off by that? All of the
things are telling me that, like, I am not supposed
to go on a date right now, and I'm just
gonna say no to all of those and just do
(04:17):
it anyway totally.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
And did you not find love on the spectrum? Inspiring
for that when they have that conversation about like, Okay,
the worst that could happen is you get out of
the house and you meet someone and you share an experience.
That's the worst that can happen. And sometimes that the
experience is really bad.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
And I've had that, but I've always learned from it.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
And I also think that something that's been really helping
me this year is thinking of like everything that I've
been through and was completely fine.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
You know what I mean, think about.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Like the stuff that has actually happened, and it was
worst case scenario, and then it was completely fine. So
who cares first of all? And at the end of
the day, like, well, okay, let me say this. I've
had some horrible date experiences. I've had my heart broken,
(05:22):
I've had someone say something completely judgmental and offensive about
my appearance or my lifestyle and on a date and
here I still stand in front of you happy.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Don't even think twice about those people. They suck. I'm great.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
No, I'm kidding, but like, no, that's true.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
And also.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
I just think like doing it anyway is the coolest
thing anyone can do.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Well.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
I learned a lot from love on the Spectrum, and
I guess what I learned was, you're on the spectrum.
No I am a little bit. I literally watching you know,
Connor's mom like try to get get him down from
like a ten of emotion. I was like, oh, everyone
in my life has had to do this for me,
my entire life, and be like, okay, you're a little
(06:16):
ahead of yourself.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Da da da.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
But what I really learned was that bravery is key
to love. Yes, to finding love, you have to be brave.
And it's easy to complain about how there's no one
in your life. I've done it all, like my whole life.
But one thing I really admire about you is that
(06:38):
you've put like the legwork in to meet people and
watching these people who are on the spectrum, who've had
the world show them incredible cruelty, and still they're so
they're braver than I could ever be, because I think
that just knowing myself, I would shut down and I
would just be like, the world's not a safe place
and I'm not going to join and fuck anyone who
(07:02):
tries to get me out of my shell. And instead
they're really willing to go out there and take a
risk and get to know someone and being honest with
someone on a first date and like letting those feelings
of discomfort come and facing them. And I was texting
with this guy and he was like, do you want
to meet up Wednesday or Thursday? Where I could also
(07:24):
meet up tonight, And I, of course, I'm like, let's
meet up Thursday, because in my head, I'm like, I can't,
this is way too overwhelming, Like tonight, what are you
talking about? And then thinking about the show, I was like,
you know what, let's meet up tonight, Like I'm gonna
be brave. I'm not gonna wait a week and just
be like building this up into my head as like
the scariest thing of all time. I was going to
(07:45):
go on a date tonight and make it really fun
and relaxing and optimistic. And I don't think that bravery
equals things working out, but I do believe it. It
means something will have been totally What is this quote
I have.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
On my fridge that I'm trying to read because I
have been had it there for a year and it's
so helpful.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
And you're still trying to read it because my New
York's resolution so so that with.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Me unrelated you tell your vulnerable.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
So I'm like, well, I'm going to read this year.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
So I've been trying something too, and it's trying to read. No,
it's the moment we.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
The moment we decide to love, we begin to move
towards freedom. It's bell Hooks, okay, and it means the
moment we decide. I read it every day thinking the
moment we decide to love ourselves the moment we look
in the mirror and say you're beautiful and perfect and
if someone like that's another thing. Okay, I know exactly
(08:52):
what you mean. All the stuff that comes up, what
if this, what if that? What if I'm not? And
sometimes it comes up all at once and like such
an overwhelming way where you're like, wait a second. Like
my experience is like it's one slight thing goes wrong,
like I said something awkward or embarrassing, or like I
I'm like texting with someone and then they don't respond
(09:15):
for like five hours or so, and I'm like, okay,
so actually I am mentally unstable and everyone knows it,
and everyone thinks I'm weird and everyone thinks that like
I am whatever, and this is happening and I'm not
good enough and by the way, like I don't even
know about this and what my future is and then
I don't even have like a.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Job that that I don't know what I did visit
out and then it just all happens.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
While Devin's saying this, her cat is literally wrestling her.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
I know, why is he doing this? This is what
he decides to do.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
I mean, I love my child so much but he
does decide to attack me every time I'm recording the podcast.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
No, it just overwhelmed me. Look at him.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
He's literally biting me. But at the same time, that
feeling passes. And what I really tell myself is like, Okay,
if someone meets me now, they're not okay with any
certain thing about me. I've actually been you want to
talk about Brave Carolina. I've been opting out of getting
eyelash extensions for financial reasons. Yeah, I've been having to
(10:18):
choose not to do something like that. So I think
I can understand Love on the Spectrum because I've actually
had a really difficult time recently too.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
No, but I tell myself, this is what I look
like right now.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
If I meet someone they think that I'm not pretty enough,
I don't want to be with them because I want
to look like shit whenever I.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Feel like it and they like me anyway, So was
that helpful? It was?
Speaker 1 (10:40):
It reminds me of something that was said on Love
on the Spectrum where one of the guys says, there's
eight billion people in the world. Someone has to be
a match. I know, and I really feel that way.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
I completely feel that way, and I love how like
you said, Okay, so let me put it this way,
which is that we should have watched Love on the
Spectrum years ago. Ye I never did because I guess
I was afraid of how wholesome it is. But my
boss was like, you have to watch the show. And
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I lost two days of my life to this show.
I literally went from knowing nothing about Love on the
Spectrum to commenting on Instagram lives of the people on
the show, watching like hours of them talking about their
life since the show and what happened, finding out on Reddit,
like if any of the people stayed together, finding out
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that Connor and Tanner are going to hang out on
February tenth, and they are my friends. I love this
show so much, and like you said, one of the
most helpful things about it is that they have autism therapists,
like specialist who also is on the Spectrum, who teaches
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them about dating, and those sessions are really helpful to
because of scenes like where Tanner goes on a date
and he's talking most of the time because he's so excited,
like he just starts asking a bunch of questions and
the date isn't super talkative, so she just gives like
one word responses. So then Tanner has a session with
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Jennifer the therapist, and he's like, sometimes I feel like
I forget exactly what he says. But he's basically like,
sometimes I feel like I have to be in a
good mood all the time, where I have to be
talking all the time otherwise people will think I'm in
a bad mood.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
And she was like, okay, so I'm hearing.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
That you feel a lot of pressure to always be
smiling and feeling good. And he was like yes, and
I thought that was like something everyone can relate to.
And then basically she's like, you can be on a
date and not have anything to say. She says it's
not your job to ask all the questions and keep
the conversation going the whole time, which I think is
also helpful as like women going on dates, because it's
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like there is sometimes it can feel like so stressful.
You're like, oh my god, blank silence blanks, but it's
like okay, and see if they I've literally done that,
and it's been like a test for people. I'm like, Okay,
I'm not going on another date with that person because
I leave the silence to try to see if they'll
ask me a question, and they don't, and I'm like,
all right, so it doesn't seem like you're interested in me.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Bye.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Well, yeah, I actually learned a lot from that woman
who is the therapist, because I thought she gave like
a perfect line for Tanna to say, which she uses
on his date another date that he has, where she
says I don't really have anything else to say, but
I'm having a great time. Yes, and he says it.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
There's a lot to say too about the honesty on
the show and how honest they are with each other
on first dates.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Yes, you're like.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Famously, there's the first date where the guy finds out
the girl he's on a date with wants kids, and
he's like, oh, I don't want kids. I'm sorry, yeah,
and he just immediately lets her know and his parents
are kind of like, well, how did that come up?
And he was like, well, she brought it up, and
to me, it makes perfect sense. Why would you waste
someone's time? Yeah, when you know that you're not aligned.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Well.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
Also, I think that guy was named James, but I'm
not positive. But he also does something that I think
I wish everyone did, which is he'll be like, is
it okay if I tell you more about that? Right,
He's like, is it okay if I tell you like that?
Or I actually have a story about that? Is it
okay if I tell you? Or like do you want
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to hear it? Like just like so like conscientious of
the other person's time, and like obviously, like if I
was in that scenario, I don't know if I'd be
willing to like be honest with someone and actually say like, no,
I don't want to hear about like your golf trip
in Palm Springs. That's not one of his stories. But
I'm just using an example.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
But I think I don't want to hear about yeah things, I.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
Would be like, no, I would not like to hear
about that, thank you, But also okay, speaking.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Of the honesty too. Danny is so iconic and both isanic.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
She's like it has an animation studio and like is
really into animation, And on basically every single date, she'll
be like, so are you interested in animation? And going
to events like San Diego Comic Con, and then if
they say no, she's like's not gonna work.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
One of my favorite reactions was on her first date.
In the first episode of the second season where her
and this guy are hitting it off and he was like, well,
I would love to do this again, and she goes.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Maybe we'll see yeah, but.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Existent and he's like he says again, like well it
was so nice and I'd love to do this again.
She's like, well, we'll see maybe, and I just love
that energy so much and being like yeah, I'm not
going to give you everything. I'm not not going to lie. Yeah,
I'm not really into this.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
I know. She also on another date, said that she
loved the guy or she's like, I'm in love with you.
Did she say on like the first date.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
She did say to this guy Jake that like she
had given her heart to him.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
Oh okay, and then she was like I think you're
really hot and then he's like, okay, I need a second, which,
by the way, I actually thought that is something.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
And it happened on obviously now I'm on.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
Love is Blind, I mean sorry, Love on the spectrum
of Australia and this happened there where someone's like, I
actually need to take a second and step away, and
in Danny's case, on Danny's date, then she's like, oh,
I think I might have like overstepped, like he had
to step away, what happened? And then he actually stepped
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away to write her a love poem and readed to her,
which was incredible on Love's Blind Australia. This girl had
to step away and she's like, I'm actually having a
panic attack, so I'm gonna go home.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
But it was really nice to meet you.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
And the guy was like very respectful about it. And
then Danny broke up with that guy who wrote her
the love poem because he.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Wasn't on her left.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Well let's be real, he wasn't on her level, and
then she ended up finding someone because he wasn't sure
what he wanted to do. I mean, it was a
little judgmental. She was like based on like the degree
program he was in. Like she's like, okay, so you're
still getting your degree. Like I want someone who has
their own animation studio so that we could be a
power couple. And like her aunt and uncle who she
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lives with, are constantly being like, you know, not everyone's perfect,
and she's like, right, and they're not good enough for me.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
But then she finds her true match.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
A down and I forget what he does for work,
but he's successful and she likes that, and he welds
her a piece of brass jewelry, brass and silver, and
I think they're great.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
I think they're still together by the way I follow
her on Instagram. She is also.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Just someone who is I would say that confidence can
be more of a choice than I think. I think
we're always waiting for it, and she's someone who just
kind of makes the choice to be confident.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
It seems like in the sense that like and that
like when she's on.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Dates and they say something that she likes, she goes yes,
which I love. And I think that she talks about
her body and her sexuality in a way that we
often don't expect from people on the spectrum, which is
of course, like in hindsight, belittling and you know, not inclusive.
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But there's just something about her that's really brave and
confident to me. And again, like I can't I keep
using that word, but I can't say enough about how
inspiring the show is to me and about how it's
really brought to light something that I've been missing in
my life, which is just the bravery to like join
people in a human in the human experience, like I've
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just been hiding from that.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
I think that there are so many conversations as opposed
to other dating shows, Like there's so many conversations about
feelings on this one, Like the conversation we were just talking
about where Tanner talks about like not knowing how to
make conversation, and then there's like a conversation with Connor
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where he talks to his mom about like being afraid
to go on dates because he's afraid of change and
he's afraid like things like she's just trying to positively
say like, oh, well, what if you meet someone I
really like them, and then he's like, yeah, that scares
me too, Like I don't know, like I don't know
what to do next then, and like it is it's
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like a lot. It's like okay, so then you do
like someone, then you're signing up for possible heartbreak. But
at the same time, as his mom said, people do
their best growing when things change, and when things don't change,
you don't really grow. It kind of reminds me of
being in relationship with a thirty year old when I
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was twenty two and three years later being like, wow,
I really have completely changed and I feel my views
and perspective have been completely molding like putty this whole time,
as my brain is still forming, and this person seems
to still be the exact same right and doesn't want
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to seem to like do anything different, And like I
remember feeling like like maybe he'll, like.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Like he lost his job.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
At one point, I was like, maybe he'll like go
back to school, like basically like maybe he'll like become
totally different for some reason, and then realizing like he's
not going to and you can't really or it's not
really helpful to be with someone who you want to
be different than they are. And I want to love
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someone in a way where I don't want anything to
be different about that, right, And I want them to
love me in a way where they don't want anything
to be different about me.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Which is not easy.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
It's not easy to not want to change anything about someone,
and I think that also can limit me. I'll speak
for myself when I'm going out there to date, because
I think, a there's things I want to change about myself,
and be what if this guy isn't doesn't fill.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
This quota or whatever.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Why I identified with Connor's journey so much was because
he kept on playing the tape forward too quickly, like
how he was like, what if so many people are
going to see this? I didn't sign up for a
life for the autographs and photographers? What would happen to
princess die?
Speaker 2 (21:42):
You know?
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Like I understand that train of thinking. I understand like, O, hey,
what if the state goes well? That's really scary too.
What if the state goes terribly that's really scary too.
I don't know how I feel. That's a really scary feeling. Probably,
like the scariest is like I don't know how I feel,
and I'm waiting to like feel something or you know
how sort of the journey he goes on with Sasha
(22:03):
where he asks his friend out on a date. He's
terrified the whole time, and then he's terrified to tell
her that he just wants to be friends. And he
does that, which is like a very brave thing to do,
and his mom is super proud of him because he
showed really good character. But I guess I'm just bringing
that up to say that, like I play the tape
forward way too quickly, Like I'm like, do I like
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this guy's job? Do I like what he does? For
a living do I would am I interested in talking
about that?
Speaker 2 (22:29):
Does he like?
Speaker 1 (22:31):
How what will it look like to combine our incomes?
And instead of just being like, I'm going on a
first date with someone I.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Know, I also was like, Okay, there's so much speed
dating on these shows like season one and season two,
there's like Kaylen, I forget what season she's on.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Kaylen goes on one, Connor goes on one, And I'm like,
is speed dating the answer?
Speaker 3 (22:52):
Like maybe that's the new Like but then I was
like looking up speed dating in Brooklyn and I like
saw nothing, Like I don't think people do that.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Maybe that's something.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
We should do, create a speed dating company. I'm in
because it was interesting. I mean, Caln was someone who
I think was a little bit too not to say
she should be one way or the other, but she
did open every single conversation in a negative like I
felt like she was kind of like negative on the
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idea of men and dating in general, which I've totally
been there, but I don't know that she had like
a totally open mind. And then it sucked because the
first guy that she did like and went on a
date with, he after the first date, he ghosted her
and that sucks too, because it's like hard when someone
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when you know someone like doesn't even necessarily want to
put themselves out there that much, and.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Then they do and then like they get hurt. But
that's also part of it.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
Yeah, That's what I've been trying to keep in mind,
is that, like, there could be some guys I meet
who will prove my narrative true, and I have to
not let them define. I have to make sure that
I'm not trying to that I'm trying to like uphold
other narratives besides my own. Yeah, if that makes sense,
with other different experiences, Like, it'll be very It'll be
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easier for me in a way if like the guy
I go on a date with tonight is just like, oh,
your hand's weird, it's sad that you live with your
mom and sister, and I'm you're fat. Like that would
be so easy because I would just be like, Okay,
you give me permission. She never go on a date.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
You're like mine one and one.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
Because this man has been just walked out of a
mental institution.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
This is Michael.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
Myers actually, and this is the holl they said the
Halloween franchise was done, but they're actually doing another one.
Then Kyler Acrews shows up. She's like, baby, what's what's happening?
Speaker 2 (24:52):
What's happening.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
But I think it's easier in a way for people
to prove you right about your fears, because you're like,
thank God, I don't have to make myself even more
uncomfortable and put myself out there even more. Thank yes,
the world has proven me right. Yes, And instead I
even if this date doesn't work out tonight or I
don't think this is the love of my life, it's
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so refreshing. I'm sorry, I'm like on a high about
going on the state. It's so refreshing to not expect
this to be the love of my life, right And.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
Also, by the way, multiple things, But one thing I
want to say is Connor's experience is also helpful in
that sense where he went to the speed dating event,
he's filling out the thing where you like say yes
or no on someone and eventually directly in front of
them where they could see.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
And he by the way, I just.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
Love him so much, Like I just he's so like
he's so entertaining one and so honest and kind and like, yes,
I just love watching him.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
He makes me so happy.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
I love his relationship with Chewy, his dog.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
And anyway, so he had.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
This girl Emily marked no and then he like the
whole time since the speededaning event was kind of like,
well I wish I marked her yes, but I didn't,
and like I don't know why. And basically his mom again,
who I'm also obsessed with, granite countertop saleswoman.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Who I love.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
She is like, oh, okay, well what if there's like
another option, Like it doesn't have to be that you
can't go out with her, like now, maybe you could
just call them and see.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
And it's like that's a reminder too. It's like nothing
is permanent.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
It's not like because sometimes with the apps and stuff too,
I feel like it's like becomes like yes or no, no, okay,
now I'll never meet this person because like when Caylen
accidentally swiped left on someone, it's like, okay, never mind,
love is over, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
It's like none of this stuff is permanent. It's just
an experience. And and then Connor, I.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
Don't know if he's still with Emily, but he's still
posts with her on Instagram. So either their friends or
they're dating, and I loved when they went on a
date and he brings Chewy because he has a dog name.
I love his mom too, because he's telling his mom
that like the girl Emily that he likes. It turns
out she has a dog named ben after Ben Kenobi,
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and he's like, and I have a dog, Chewy, And
the mom's like.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Oh my god. And then you have a dog from start,
Oh my god, sorry, wait can we meet her?
Speaker 3 (27:28):
Am I getting ahead of myself, But it's like kind
of cute because they both have dogs named after Star
Wars characters. And then when they go to meet up
on the date, he's talking to Chewy, like when Emily's
approaching and he's like, Okay, so be cool, Chewy, just
be yourself, and it was like he was talking to
himself and it was so sweet.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Jo is so sweet.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
There's a sweetness that I think like the world needs,
and it definitely comes from people on the spectrum. And
there's a vulnerara that I keep. You know, one thing
my therapist said to me about like my scars, was
she was like, you're gonna have to be vulnerable faster
than a lot of other people are vulnerable, and watching
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Love on the Spectrum, like all these people are so
vulnerable so quickly because they have a diagnosis that they're
sharing with someone just by being themselves. And I think
that's like an incredibly vulnerable, incredibly brave thing to do,
and it's made me feel more willing to be vulnerable.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
Love that.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
And you have inspired me by going on like so
many dates and just being open to, like you said,
the experience of it all and not being like every
day like I think this might be my boyfriend, Like
You've just always been like, Okay, I'm gonna go meet
this person.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
I will say I have been extremely open minded in
terms of types of people I go out. I've never
been someone who's like, wait this small detail.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
No, I'm always like, yeah, whatever, I'll go out with whoever.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
But I will say that I did meet someone that
I like a few weeks ago, but I nervous to
talk about it because I don't have to want to
screw it up. But I but one thing I want
to say about it is that something that I was saying,
and I'm not sure if I said at one point
on the podcast for a while was like I was
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like I'm not gonna just go on app dates with
anyone anymore, it has to be like an amazing back
and forth conversation and like the like I just had
had so many awkward first dates with people who just
immediately were like, let's go out whatever, and I was like, Okay, no,
I have to have like a long, really funny back
and forth with someone to go on a date. But
this date a few weeks ago was not that. And
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it was Rian, by the way, which I hate. Ryan
always talks shit about it, but it was like not
that much of a back and forth, and I thought
his opening message was really lame and weird, and I
made fun of it, and then we like went back
and forth, and then my plans canceled and I was like,
I'm free tonight, like if you like, I.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Just kind of wasn't.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
I didn't expect anything of it because I was like, okay,
I don't even know and who cares. Like I thought
he was attractive, but I was like, it wasn't like
we were like messaging flirting so much like oh my god.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
We're gonna meet and it's gonna whatever.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
And I did the thing that you're doing tonight, which
is that we went and got I think it was
actually his idea though, But we just got coffee and
walked around the park. But then it went so well
that then we decided to get dinner. So it was
like really good because if it hadn't been going well,
there would have been many easy points to be like,
I actually am like really cold. I think I'm gonna go,
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but it wasn't like that, so but we'll see.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
Okay, Well, that's really exciting and I can't wait to
hear more about that, and I know our listeners can't
wait to hear more too, But no pressure. I think it's.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
Ronda Shandisky.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
Actually his idea. He says we're presidential race. That's all
I'm gonna say.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
His schedule is freeing up ladies, sir. Let's just say
I want to share traders Thursdays.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
He's going to be right on the couch with me.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
He wears the cues of Cowboy Boostine does a little
dance where he kicks his heels together.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
Ron Ron, Ron, imagine imagine speaking of Ariana Grande, which
we're not, but her song where it's like amad in
the world like that, it's like a mad a world
like that.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
Me and Ron are sank just dancing in cowboy boots.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
It's both like incredible and so depressing at the same time.
All right, imagine a world like that.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
Okay, but sorry, just one quick side note, what are
your thoughts on? Yes, and it is kind of controversial
because she's like who she who cares?
Speaker 2 (32:00):
That's what I did.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
I broke up a marriage, I broke up a family. Yeah,
and yes, And I'm also just like okay, so she's
kind of going to her R and B persona and
she's like, like, who gives a shit? What dick I
ride or something. It's like, okay, you're talking about SpongeBob,
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Like I just can't those two don't meet.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
It's also like, well, people give a shit who's dick
you ride? When the dick is connected to a full
family that it's responsible for, you know what I mean, Like,
people do give a shit about that. And it's like
kind of reminds me of like when she came out
with break up with your girlfriend because I'm bored, and like,
I get so I find her charming, I love her music,
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so I do get like bewitched by her, where I'm like, oh,
I love Arianna. And then she comes out with a
song like that where I'm like, wait, what the fuck?
Like she's basically being like, yeah, I did make whoever
she was with at the time break up with their
girlfriend because I was bored so and it's like, that's it.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
That hurts our feelings, that got hurt okay.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
And like I don't care that it's SpongeBob. I think
that's weird, but anyone can be attracted to whoever. I
care that, like there was a relationship involved, and by
the way, it who knows, we don't know the details.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
Maybe he was already broken up with his wife.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
Fine, then don't come out with a song that's like
who cares? Like have the compassion to be like, I
understand that this might be hard for a woman with
a child and my ex husband if I immediately come
out with a song about me and this guy saying
I don't give a fuck and I say that shit
with my chest. Yes, And but that being said, I
love the song and I listen.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
To it every day.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
Oh okay, the song to me, it feels a little
bit like someone played like dance mix on garage band
and then sang over it. That makes sense, But totally
I'm happy for you know the Ariana fans out there.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
What are her fans called Orientators? Arienators?
Speaker 3 (34:02):
And by the way, I do think like talking and
singing is never for me.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
It's never a talk. Break is never something I look for.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
Taylor swifts, we yeah, never getting back together.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
So he calls me, but he's like, hey, I still
love you, and I'm like, oh my god, Like this
is exhaustic. I don't whenever I love that song so much,
and I'm always like, fucking I'm always like imagining myself,
like maybe I should sing this at karaoke, Like I
would be so amazing sing this karaoke. And then it
gets to the talking part and I'm like, oh, I
would have to stop and say so he calls me up,
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but he's like and I'm like, well, I can't do that.
I can't fucking whatever.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
So yeah, our stance is no to talking during songs.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
No talking during songs, no talking during movies, no talking during.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
It doesn't feel natural, okay, And then.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
Yeah, at anytime I don't want to basically, how about that.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
Yeah, I thought, if you're not good at it, don't
do it.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
No, that's so true. It's like, you know, what is
my biggest pet peeve. It's not my biggest pet peeve.
I actually think it's the most fascinating thing is people
who converse by doing like icebreakers, like like that's how
they naturally talk. It's like horrible, So, by the way,
what was your favorite album of the year?
Speaker 2 (35:22):
Really? Oh so, by the way, like what's your favorite
chain restaurant?
Speaker 3 (35:26):
Like people actually talk like that because they don't know
how to be like, hey, this is something real and
authentic about me, so instead they're like, oh, you go
to Blue Bottle, Oh what do you get? Like it's
like I don't give a shit.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
I mean, we've shipped on so many people's Hinge prompts,
but one of them that I hate is like, tell
me about the last best concert you've been to.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
I know, no, I don't want to.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
Just ask me about my last relationship and why it
didn't work out, and then we'll like at least like
have a conversation to get into Well.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
Hannah Cottson, who is a friend of the pod, sent
me a TikTok where basically this guy found Lucas Gage
on hinge.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
Have you seen this?
Speaker 3 (36:07):
No, Apparently Lucas Gauge is on hinge and that's the
really hot guy from White Lotus if you're wondering, and
he has a voice prompt on his profile, but it's
clearly Meg Stalter recording it, and it's basically her. It's
like best travel story and it's like her being like, hey, yeah,
I went to Disney World with my daughter, like it
was amazing.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
And then like, wouldn't you know it? When I was
packing up to go, I was like, where is that
little girl? And I didn't know where she was?
Speaker 3 (36:33):
And it's so funny, and I'm like, oh my god,
that's genius. So I think when people can use how
stupid the app is to their advantage, I love that.
But then also sometimes when people are really funny, they're hiding,
So I don't.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
Know, Yes, okay, when people are really funny, they're hiding.
When people are like fuck this app, that's when I'm like, no,
I know, I'm here, we're here together, we've met here.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
I know.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
I also just can't handle like, Okay, one stupid picture
is great, forced stupid pictures. You're making a mockery of
my stupid.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
Pictures, like who are you?
Speaker 3 (37:04):
And like I don't trust you, and like maybe you
shouldn't be here like, yeah, I do think you have
to have at one at least one like genuine thing
where you're like and and by the way, you have
to give someone something they can like respond to. And
when your whole profile is like I don't give a
fuck about this stupid bullshit, then like what am I
supposed to say?
Speaker 2 (37:24):
Like how is your Sunday? You know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (37:27):
It's like you have to have like whatever I like
to watch Survivor or something someone can be like, oh,
do me too.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
Right now, precisely getting a little nervous. At least it's
not New York where I would literally actually act done
in La too, I would show up to a date
and then leave before they could get a chance to
meet me. I once drove to Venice, California, texted the guy,
called him. He was like where are you? And then
I left that just a long drive to just leave.
(37:58):
But you know what, even if you do do that,
that's fine. If you do that tonight, I definitely am
going to show up tonight because I'm doing this as
like a way of showing up for myself and not
hiding from the world. And again, love on the spectrum
has made me brave, but I'm nervous and I'm going
to I'm just gonna go with that feeling and not
(38:19):
try to make it disappear.
Speaker 3 (38:21):
Oh and by the way, I just forgot to mention
my other favorite couple on the show.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
I mean, they're all my favorite couple.
Speaker 3 (38:26):
I love Sue bad and Rachel I think was his
girlfriend in season one and now he has a different girlfriend.
I don't know why I'm so involved in all these
people's lives on Instagram, but Abby and David the couple
the one couple that lasted from season one to season two.
They're so sweat and perfect. And by the way, Abby's
(38:46):
mom is like my favorite person who's ever lived. I
also follow her her TikTok I think literally is Abby's mom,
Like that's what her handle is. But I love the
conversation when she's like, I feel nervous and her mom said, well,
it's normal to feel nervous, and something you could say
is I'm feeling kind of nervous right now, David, and
he might say I'm feeling kind of nervous too, And
(39:07):
I was like, that's so true. Like I love when
someone says they're nervous. If you are vulnerable. That's the
other thing if I think something that we saw on
this show too, is like, if you are vulnerable and
talk about your feelings, then someone else can have the
opportunity to do that too, like say, I'm not sure
what else to say, but I'm having a really good time.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
Me too, Yeah, okay, we're both in the same boat.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
I think this is a really good point. And I
think also you can't ruin things that aren't supposed to
be like I just I'm a big believer in like
you can say all of the wrong things and leave
too early and be flustered. And if this is someone
who wants to get to know you, they will make
it their position to get to know you.
Speaker 3 (39:52):
Yes, that's completely true. I agree the stars are aligned
for you tonight.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
Well, I can't wait to tell everyone next week how
it goes. And hopefully it won't be my only date.
That I'll go on more and I'll make this more
of a habit and I can start telling the listeners
my experiences and like Connor's mom said, I get to
grow out of making this change. And I'm grateful to
everyone who's listened and been on my journey thus far.
Speaker 2 (40:18):
I can't wait to hear about it.
Speaker 3 (40:20):
Love you, Devin, love you, Caroled Sid. I want you
TU soon, so romantic.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
Love me, baby, don't leave me, haggin.
Speaker 3 (40:51):
I want truth
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