January 25, 2024 • 40 mins
Devin and Carolina briefly roast Shep’s middle aged male instagram behavior and then touch on the Southern Charm reunion before diving into the latest season of The Real Housewives of Miami from Julia’s opera career to Guerdy vs Larsa to Marysol and Alexia’s bromance and MORE!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Oh I want.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Hello, and welcome to true Romance. This is Carolina Barlow,
this is Devin Leary and unfortunately it's time to be
real your nightmare. Oh no, oh no, but here we
are been real in my life.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Well, you've been on mine many times when.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
We were like, it's important to be honest and truthful,
and like, do you live in society.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
No one really wants you.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
The thing about being honest and truthful is no one
really wants to hear it. Yeah, and you know where
I've learned that, Bravo, Although I well i've learned that
from Bravo, but I also have like in the past
year where I was.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Having a mental breakdown.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
At times, I did like confront one of my closest
friends and I was like, okay, so if everyone in
the group has annoyed me, you need to just tell me,
like you need to just.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Be honest, like honestly, you just have to tell me
because it's not fair.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
And she was like, I really don't think anyone's talking
about you or thinking about you that.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
I was like, oh, okay.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Okay, so your delusion all great? So I thought we
were being real here. No, I mean I'm fake when
the time calls. You got to know how to be
fake when you need to be fake. But speaking of
fake ass motherfuckers who I cannot stand, Okay, please go on,
(01:38):
Ron de Sant does not kidding. So imagine I just
like a politics person. I'm like the idea. We shifted
our focus, We shifted our focus, and I suddenly read
now y Republicans suck.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
They're actually out for twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
No, I was gonna say that this is something that
grinds my so much.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
I almost posted about it. Two things.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
I almost post about it on social media today, but
I knew that I would regret it.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
One.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
I believe that Greta Gerwig was snubbed. I do not
believe that Margot Robbie was snubbed. IM agree.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
I believe that.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Ryan Gosling gave an incredible performance. He became a different person,
he became a non person, he became a doll, he
became everything we needed him to be. I believe Greta
Gerwig did something totally different with the blockbuster film medium,
and that deserves recognition. I don't believe that Margot Robbie's
(02:38):
Barbie was groundbreaking. Sorry America, Frere totally deserving.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
But I, yeah, Margot, he has Barbie, not an oscar
worthy performance, a good performance, a great performance, a fun performance.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Yes, not mister oh not, mister Tuah.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
And when I was in those theaters watching Barbie once twice,
three times, I did think Ryan Gosling needs an Oscar
for this. I about the same thing. Is it going
to go to him? No, it will go to Robert
Downey Jr. And I will be happy for that as well,
because you know, as he's charming. He's charming reads.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Under twenty books a year.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
I still respect and loved Oppenheimer.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Well, I want to see that. I haven't seen it yet.
I want to see Oppenheimer when it comes on.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Whatever he's sam streaming, when it's streaming out Peacock. I
know it's like, Okay, I guess this is what you
know what At the end of the day, life is
meaningless and Oppenheimer's on Peacock. But I also will say
that I think Margot Robbie might know. She seems really cool,
but there's a chance that her discourse about this behind
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closed doors is similar to the discourse of that girl
Sam from Summerhouse in Winterhouse who was dating Corey Keefer and.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Just they she just broke up with him.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Because I listened to Sam's interview on the Not Skinny
but Not Fat podcast, which is a problematic podcast I hear.
I didn't know anything about it, but that person who
hosts that podcast like posted that they were going to
have the breakup interview with Sam whatever her name is
from Sam and Corey, So I was like, Okay, I
gotta listen. And the podcast started with Sam talking about
(04:29):
how everybody thinks that she got everything she has in
her career because her parents are wealthy, but that's not
actually why she got everything she has. And the interviewer
was like, why do you think they think that? And
she was like, well, when you're like pretty, people just
want to assume that you don't deserve success, Like they
want to find a problem for her and for Sam.
(04:50):
I can imagine Margot Robbie being like so just like
a really pretty hot girl playing Barbie and people are
threatened by that, so I don't get nominated, you know
what I mean, and like to a certain extent like yeah,
it's like, yeah, we were a Hawk girl who played
a Hawk girl. I don't know, And let me say this,
Sam Fahir Fair or whatever she did, she did turn
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me because in the beginning, I'm like, oh my God,
I can't fucking stand this girl. Just get to the drama.
I want to know what happened. But by the end
I was on her side when she's talking about listening
to Better Man by Taylor Swift and walking down the
street realizing I'm in love with Corey but he's not
in love with me, and so I have to break
up with him. And by the way, it was very
interesting to have the perspective. So she basically said that
(05:34):
when he would come visit her in New York because
he lives in North Carolina, that first of all, he
refused to make it official. The whole time, she said, like,
it was like Valentine's Day and she got him a present,
but he literally came to visit her and didn't say anything.
God didn't even mention Valentine's Day. So she just kept
the president and never gave it to him. I was like,
I can't relate to anything more.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
But basically, he.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Would come visit her and she would he would go
record his testimonials for Winterhouse at the like Bravo Studios
in New York, and so she was like, he would
be in my bed being all like lovey dove or whatever,
and then go record these testimonials where he was like, uh.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
I guess Sam wants me to shoot or get off
the pot. Guess we're shitting like that.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
So she was like, as soon as she saw the
season air, she was like, all right, I have to
break up with him.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
He doesn't give a fuck about me. And so I
was on her side. By the end.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
I understood completely too when she said we didn't break
up because I didn't love him. We broke up because
he didn't love me. And I know that feeling when
you want to put that out they are into the
universe to see if the person will turn around.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
And be like, no, I do love you. Yeah. And
I wanted to say, Sam, that'll never happen. That will
never happen.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
They just, you know, it's like they just don't care
about you at the end of the day. And the
thing that's interesting is it's possible. Everyone told me this
was possible. Everybody said it, and I didn't believe it.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
It is actually post to get to the point where
you think I cannot believe I ever loved him. Like
in the sense of like he did not deserve me
at all, Like, oh my god, what was I thinking?
It's possible to get to that point of thinking, And
I am currently checking in from I can't believe I
ever loved him headquarters is me. I'm still not there unfortunately,
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but I would love to you.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
I would love to visit. What are your hours? Come visit?
Speaker 2 (07:30):
I can't believe I ever loved him headquarters anytime between honestly,
only between four and seven pm, because before four pm
I'm tired and after seven pm I'm watching TV.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
So right, fair four TV.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
We've skipped around a little bit, but we've had the
fake ass motherfucker that you brought up earlier in the episode.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
It is a little man named Shepro. Oh.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
I literally was like, what was I talking at about
at the beginning of the what beginning of the episode?
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Are we recording? This is somebody?
Speaker 2 (08:02):
What?
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (08:03):
So Shep rose the last week? Check what was the
last we checked in on the pod about Shep? Do
we watch the reunion? Did you watch the final part
of the reunion? I watched the final part of the reunion.
I feel bad for Taylor, I feel bad for Olivia
I feel bad that this is the central conflict on
the show. I wish Madison was involved in drama because
she's more fun. She's, as you know, the inverse of
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what Kim said once about Courtney.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
She's the most interesting to look at.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
So I greatest wish that she sort of had something
going on besides a seemingly perfect marriage. And I'm curious
more for the bts on that.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
I know me too.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
I'm like, I wouldn't be surprised if they like get divorced,
because she's actually insane underneath at all.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
I just don't believe that you can be someone like
her and suddenly live like this kind of Martha Stewart life.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Yeah, I agree, but there's something about him that's very boring.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
He's very boring. He does show up whenever she needs
him to, but that can be boring.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
I guess, Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Maybe I'm I always believe something lies beneath something actually,
like something like beneath what lies beneath with Harrison Ford
and Michelle Pfeiffer, because something did was lying beneath.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
I agree, something something something usually does.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
It's like you and I we always talk about couples
that seem happy.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
We're like, what are they hiding? Bodies?
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Bodies probably dead ex wives. One thing I have to
say is I don't.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Have to watch what lies beneath like later tonight. It's
so good.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
But I have to say I don't love like Hudson
her Son being shown like being bullied on the thing,
like I don't know.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
I thought you were just going to end it at Hudson,
Like I don't love Hudson.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
But but the Sun, the bullied Sun is not charismatic, no,
but like him coming in and like crying because he
was just bullied. It's like a little bit like did
that need to be like saved in historical footage or whatever?
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Right?
Speaker 3 (10:08):
But okay, but I will say it was I felt
bad for Taylor too, But I loved Olivia's boundary of
being like, well, I forgive you, but I'm not going
to be your friend, or like I feel sad for you,
but I'm not going to be your friend. And I
did at one point when they were cheersing, when they
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were cheersing with tinfoil hats on, and Shep was like
giving a weird speech about how you just have to
like be yourself and like I was like, honestly, like,
did my ancestors immigrate to the United States from a
different country so that I could be sitting on my
couch watching this and being watching this and my face
fully with a smile on, just like take like balloon face,
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taking it all in.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Thank you. I was like, this is tough for the
legacy of my family. Irish that this is what I do.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
More like, irish need apply to a ten Bravo Con
twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
No, but yeah, so but I will say, okay, so
we this is all right, this is what's making me angry.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Okay, So Andy does this whole rigormarole of like SHEP
has something to say. SHEP addresses the group, says he's
still drinking, and obviously everyone's like, so, then you haven't
changed it at all.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
Then SHEP does this weird speech at the end, and
I'm like, all right, he's been giving this platform. Hopefully
something is going to come out of this. Then he
posts on Instagram. First he posts this weird Instagram where
he's like, I can't share the full things.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
I don't know how to edit a video. And then
I'm reminded he's middle aged. This man that is hungover
twenty four to seven when he's not drunk and constantly
going after girls who are like twenty five years old.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
And like spanking their ass and yelling at them and
calling them stupid idiots who haven't who don't know the
history of Jamaica because they haven't traveled enough exactly.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
No, he's middle aged, and.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
He posts this video but it's like botched and you
can't really tell what it is. And then he finally
posted today the real thing or whatever. He's like, I
got some editing helps, so now I can finally post
my video, which is him in a T shirt that
says amateur, which, by.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
The way, I hate this.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
I hate this in wealthy white men who are like, dude,
I know nothing, Like if I know anything, it's that
I know nothing, and it's like, what does that mean?
Speaker 1 (12:35):
And it's him talking about how.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
He did ayahuasca for a week at a place that
he's sponsored by and you can use code relationship to
like go do ayahuasca at this place, and that's how
he's had a life changing journey. And he's talking about
how basically like his epitome in the ayahuasca trip was
that his upbringing was perfect compared to everyone else, and like,
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and I'm like, this is the problem, Like, yes, he's
very privileged, but they're.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Obviously meant an epiphany and I can't let it go.
What I say, epitome Listen, I'm amped up. It's just,
you know, words are coming out. I don't know. Maybe
that was God wanted me to say that for some reason.
That's true.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
No, but I hate that because it's like something dark obviously.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
Happened to him at some point.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
But I think it's a huge red flag when people
are like, my family's perfect.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
What do you mean my parents are perfect?
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Because it's like, well, something went wrong that you're blacking
out at bravocon and like, don't remember the whole weekend,
Like something happened there. That sentence blacking out at Bravocon
thing darker truly in Last Vegas, by the way, it's
the darkest scenario of all time.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
It's really bad. And it's like, I just I don't.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
It just made me angry because I'm like, so you
clearly haven't changed at all, but you think that we oh,
And he's like and I this is my notebook where
I've been journaling. That's another thing with men, it's like
I journal, actually, so I do think about my behavior.
It's like talking to a piece of paper and doing
drugs does not make an emotionally intelligent person. You have
therapy jokes from wet, hot American summer when Paul Rud's
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like just writing on my girnal.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
It's so stupid. But I completely agree.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
I know people who have done ayahuasca and guess what,
it does not change you. I'm sorry, it makes you
shit your pants. It just makes you shit your pants.
And I can do that with a little help from
smooth Move tea.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
Okay, yeah, I can drink some tea and shit my pants,
and I can get it out of Whole Foods. I
don't need to fly to Costa Rica.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Yeah, you don't need to like exploit indigenous people to
make them like watch you shit yourself and talk about
your mom and cry.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Rory Scoville has a bit where he's like, I don't
mind diarrhea.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Really so funny.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Why why would you not mind that? Like, what's the explanation.
I think it's just the idea that like it feels good.
Ew No, okay, I'm sorry to our listeners.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Okay, Well that's.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Just awful, and I wish you'd never say such dirty
things into the microphone.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
You know what, that's just horrible.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
My mom used to always, for some reason, tell this story.
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
If you think this is offensive, we can cut it out.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
But like my mom used to always say, for some reason,
which I feel like is just such a thing for
adults to say to kids.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
And it's like why and where did this come from?
Speaker 3 (15:30):
But she used to say, actually, like they asked people
who speak other languages what they think of English words,
and a lot of people think diarya is one of
the most beautiful words in the English language.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
I don't find that offensive all. Why would she say that.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
She would always say that, And I remember being a
kid and being like, oh my god that I remember
being like, now, this really.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Sparks the curiosity.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
So if they didn't know what diary is, they thought
it sounded beautiful. And she'd be like, like, they heard
the word roses, they heard the word this, that, and
they heard diarrhea, they thought it was beautiful. I'm like, okay,
you know, when you really.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Hear of it, you're really making the neurons fire.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
You're making the neurons fire with that one. It's hard
to root for someone who is like I had an
epitome or epiphany were I'll take either that.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
My upbringing was pretty nice.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Yeah, that's my problem, and it's like shocking, No, you've
been afforded every luxury and you're just kind of like
a narcissist and maybe uh, you know, alcoholic sex addict.
So totally, it's really that Seal could even be good
at sex. Like about that's that movie shame with Michael Fastbender.
Maybe you should have made it more interesting by making
(16:55):
it about a guy who can't fuck but constantly.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Feels the need to.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
That's so such a good point instead of like a
hot Michael Fastbender having crazy second comedy and comedy where
he's like, oh man, another girl I couldn't take.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Come my? What did he say?
Speaker 3 (17:13):
He was like, your tongue gets tired? Yeah, it's like,
oh my god, who's there an orgasm for you?
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Miss?
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Nope, it's no lam shut, it's actually no one behind
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Speaker 1 (17:34):
Correct me if I'm wrong. You've been watching The Traders.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
Yeah, so I do like to be a part of
culture in the sense that every single day when I
watch Miami Housewives and other things on Peacock, I get
it's like automatically turns on The Traders afterwards, like it
just auto plays, and I'm always like, Okay, I'm not
gonna watch this.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
I don't care. I don't care. I don't care.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
But finally enough people spoke its praises and I couldn't
get enough of Larsa, and I saw Phaedra's on the
new season, so I decided to turn on The Traders.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
And this what I'll say.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
It's not anything new because I know everyone's talking about
this show anyway. The Traders reminds me why.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
When I was a freshman in high school my life
was saved by a group of women in Coto Decaza,
Orange County, California.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Why Bravo changed my life.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
Why, you know, watching Joe Dela Rosa becoming a stepmom
at twenty three and then wanting to smoke cigarettes in
the club, and Slade getting angry at her, and Lori
having to move into a town home out of her mansion,
and Brianna getting mad at Vicky because Vicky said that
Brianna's prom was also about her herself, like Vicky saying, well,
(18:52):
your promide is also about me because I'm your mom.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Why did that save my life? Because this is why.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Reality TV is medicine. Because we are brought up with
a sickness of shame.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
In this society, we are told, I'm nodding, we don't
take ourselves seriously enough, we take ourselves too seriously. We're
over dramatic that you're crying, You're a faker. Hide your emotions,
hide your sexuality, don't talk about masturbating, don't be yourself.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
And to watch.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
People shamelessly take everything they do so seriously, To shamelessly
take seriously the fact that you wore a hat and
bracelets promoting a charity called kill hashtag Kill All Cancer,
and that charity turned out to be false in the
(19:52):
same year that your boyfriend openly lied about having cancer
for attention. To seriously go to a reunion having done
both of those things and face everyone with a straight
face and say, yeah, okay, and I'm sorry, and I'm
being my best self and I'm working out myself. And
to have a whole room of people treat that with
I mean sorry, the seriousness of cancer and say like
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this matters, like that's healing, and Trade is the epitome
of that because it's literally like I turn on.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
The first episode I.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
Watched was season two of episode episode one of season two.
Now I've seen every single episode. I binged it all
in like a day a season one and two. But
the season two, episode one opens and it's like Alan
coming walking around in a circle of all these adults
with their eyes closed. They literally like duck duck goose,
their eyes are closed, and he's talking saying things like
(20:48):
I can't do his accent, so I won't even try,
but he's saying things.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Like you might all think that you've had your shining moment,
Well your light's about to go out if you get murdered.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
And they're all like and like they're all taking it
so seriously.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
They're like doing challenges and they're trying to guess, like
who is the secret murderer. And for some reason, there's
a guy. So season one was normal people mixed with
reality stars. Season two is reality stars and for some reason,
a professional boxer and a man from the UK House
of Commons with some government agency named John, and he's
like old and everyone thinks that John They're dead serious.
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Not a laugh or smile is broken in these conversations
talking about how they think John is the trader the
murderer because they heard him take a deep breath when
Alan coming was walking around choosing the murderer, and they're like, oh,
he must have been tapped on the shoulder as the
trader and then he took a deep breath. So Tamar
confronts John, and John says, I have asthma.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Then they cut to them in a challenge and John
is sprinting like really fast, this old man with this
big pot belly sprinting and Tamra's like, everybody knows that
if you had as you would need an inhaler to
run that fast, So okay, so you have asthma. Like
this is how seriously they take everything. Deonte, the professional boxer,
like starts crying because he gives this speech about who
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he thinks is the trader, and he's like, this man
has become a clown and he.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Has fooled me. And I put my trust in this
man and he is working his magic on me.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
And everyone's like and then Max is like the guy
he's talking and he's like and the man I'm talking
about is Max, and then Max is like, I'm not
a trader, I'm a faithful and Deontay cries and.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
He's like, I can't do this anymore. I just can't
do this ruining people's life. It's just all it's so amazing.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
They take it all so seriously, Like again, not a
smile or laugh is broken, not once, like not once.
Even at one point Kate in season one, they're like,
She's like, I think Rachel's the trader because I can't
trust someone who would ever address and outfits like that,
and she's betraying herself dressing like that, and Rachel dead
serious is like really, wow really, and it's like that's
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why we love the Housewise, that's why we love all
this because they're not for the most part, they're not
laughing at themselves.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
They're just like, yeah, now this is my life, Like
this is dead serious.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
And I think that's freeing for all of us who've
been forced to become like commentators on our own lives
on social media as a way to like bury down
our own shame instead of dealing with it.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Yeah, I completely agree. I think that it's freeing.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
I mean, I went into wait deep anxious spiral last night,
having almost interrupted someone when they were in an important conversation.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
I was so upset with myself.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
It was it was you shouldn't interrupt people when they
look with the having a private to their girlfriend.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Yeah exactly, and asking them if they're single.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
But I my, my, my reaction to a small mistake
was unwarranted. And we watch people, as you said, have
partners that faked cancer, have uh screamed at people on
(24:23):
the phone who are watching themselves in a blackout, saying
that Haitians will never go to college. You know, we
are watching that, and and these women are watching that
over again, and they do not seem to be having
(24:45):
the internal anything like I went through last night. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
Well it's also like it's you know, the journey to
self forgiveness and love for me has been like looking
back on moments that were so painfully like shameful to
me that I like would flinch and feel so overwhelmed
with like disgust when I thought about like being black
out at a party, or like embarrassing myself or like whatever.
(25:11):
And the other thing about these shows is like these people, yeah,
they're like I did that. That's I own it. Like
there is something healing about that. It's like they're like,
I own it, and I might be back for another season.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
I mean, listen. Phaedra was fired for.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
Claiming that Candy Buris dragged Portcha to her sex dungeon
and roofed her.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
And now she's back and literally no one cares. We're
like pay.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
Draga and she's like, She's like, okay, yes, like I
did run a funeral business, Like I know a lot
about murder because I literally worked at a few.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
It's like, Okay, you worked at a funeral business. Okay,
that's a new era, got it?
Speaker 3 (25:48):
Like you're you can be whoever you want to be
in this world and people will forget about your biggest
mistakes and only remember your victories.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
That is such an important reminder. And I love that
she said don't come for the Housewives. She immediately shut
down anything about them faking storylines or acting or anything
like that.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
They were just and Larsa was like, we just love
our lives.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
I mean, Larsa is one of my least favorite well,
she's one of my favorite villains, I will say in
Housewives history, because I just hate being lied to by
someone who says this is all my natural appearance and
then they do a flashback.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
They literally did a flashback.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
On Miami this season of Larsa talking to a medium
and I didn't know who it was. I was like, wait,
who's that random woman? And I google it and realized
that was what Larsa used to look like.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
I've never actually seen someone undergo such a intent and
I'm not. I was thinking this today while watching Miami.
I thought, I've never seen someone grow their nose with
plastic surgery, Like it's.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
Yeah, she's so yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
It just like he just did look so beautiful before,
Like I don't. I'm just like, you were hot enough
to be like an NBA wife. That wasn't enough, I
guess not. I mean it's just Adrianna said. You can
see her ask from Planet Moon.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Okay, So we have to.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
Talk about Real House Eves in Miami because we have
been sleeping on it, and I do think it is,
besides Salt Lake City, the best franchise we have.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
I think also visually, like the Miami girls have style
that's incomparable. They are literally dressed as if they're going
to a theme party every day, and every day is
Miami every day, Like they're so hyped up on Miami.
They also call each other bro, which is my favorite thing,
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like fuck off Bro, no really fuck off bro, or
like bro.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
And they all have insane backstories. I mean, and Alsatia
was like a proper mob wife.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
I know, well a friend of the pod who I
won't name in case she doesn't want to be named,
but that I'm in a group chat with. It was
like listening off like she was basically like the reason
why because I was saying, like, Miami is the best
franchise because it's everything that is Housewives at its best,
Delusional people who have endless amounts of money to spend
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on their weird little hobbies and who get really activated
when they get in an argument, and who at the
end of the day will support each other no matter what,
like yes, yes, yes, what you need, and then you
need a villain like Larsa that's just like kind of
doesn't care about anyone but.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Herself, telling people that Gertie has cancer when Gertie asked
her specifically not too.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Yes, and when she by the way, when Gertie tells her,
and then she's like, okay, well I didn't know that,
Like well I did not know that, Well, you're gonna
tell them anyways. It's like, do you realize what you're
talking about right now?
Speaker 1 (29:01):
Well, so no.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
The thing that my friend sent to the group chat
was like basically she was like, I just think they
all have the most interesting storylines and starts listening them off,
and it's like so many things that I even forget,
Like basically Alexia, first of all, Marrisol's mom was like
this woman who had the most insane plastic surgery of
all time and passed away rip. And then Alexia was
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married to a drug kingpin that there's literally a documentary
about on Netflix because of how insane his life was.
Then she was married to a gay man who she
knew was gay, but she loved him anyway. She has
like these two sons, one with a traumatic brain injury.
Now she's married to Todd. Like everything is dramatic. Julia
had like someone stalking her and trying to steal her
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baby from her.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
This is true, you know, I say, as if I'm
a friend, I'm like, no, this is true. Dirty, Like
her family is home burned down or something, or she
lost both her brothers or something like it just ever,
everyone has like trauma. Everyone has a crazy backstory and
they're all like coming there with this.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Then oh, by the way, Then the Lenny situation, which
is like Lisa and Lennie, Yeah, Lisa and.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
Lenny, and the fact that they're constantly like all right,
shut up about that, and I'm like, wait, this is
actually crazy what she's going through though, Like I understand,
but it's kind of funny how they like write her
off and are just like all right, that's enough hearing
about that.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
It's like, Lisa is fascinating to me.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
I love that she set a reminder to check in
on her boyfriend's feelings and told him, Okay, I'm just
setting a reminder on my phone. I just want to
call and see how are your feelings and he's literally going,
my feelings are good. It's giving like a sociopath who's
like trying to practice how to be human. And she says, Okay,
I'll check in with you at eight thirty. I mean,
(30:48):
I should be so lucky to find like a boyfriend
who will like check in with me about my feelings regularly.
But well, let me say this too, Like Lisa, it
is interesting when something bad happens to someone who's not necessarily.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
Good, you know what I mean, Like IM like a
hard to empathize so her poor the poor children. I'm sorry,
Like that's so hard, the poor children.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
She's like bringing the kid to the fucking bank to
get a bank account, and she's like telling him I
used to work at dairy queen.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
It's like, everything's not about you.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
Everything is about her and her world though, And it
is kind of this thing where it's like, okay, listen,
Lenny is evil, but you were happily.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
Connected to him exactly.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
Sorry to say, there's something that is super cold about her.
I just think that she I don't know if it's
calling the police on her in front of her kids
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and then leaving to go to a party afterwards.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
I don't know what it is.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
It probably is that, but there's something that doesn't generate sympathy.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
There's something that doesn't generate sympathy. That's very true.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
But she's also siding with Larsa, which isn't a great
side to stand on.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
They remind me of girls in like seventh grade who
are like, Okay, let's decide that you're my best friend. Okay,
you're my best friend too, and it's like we have
no connection, but we both need a best friend totally.
This is a classic Housewives scenario playing out before us,
where we have two classic housewife scenarios happening. One delusional
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music career which is actually happening in two cases with it, Adriana,
which she's been doing it for two seasons now, her
music career where she actually goes to her recording studio
just to lip sync, which I've never seen.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
Before, and I've thought about that.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
Much as Alexia hates Adriana, she's always like, I gotta
say that song is dope.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
It's still ritting for her music for her, I love
that song.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
And then Julia singing opera. So Julia is perfect because
she does not ever She's like very free spirited but
takes everything she does very seriously, which is perfect.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
It's perfect farm that has the lifestyle that I would
actually like aspire to have.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
She's like posing off her dog but looking beautiful and
like overall it's naturally like hair falling into place and
she's like, oh hi, Martina.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
Yeah with don Sevan goats all things that I want.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
So there's that. And then the other classic housewive storyline
is when a when a villain. You know, the villains
usually are not very socially adept outside of like Brandy
or there's some who are. But a villain like Larsa
doesn't know who the fans will love, you know what
I mean, Like she doesn't know who to latch onto
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because she's not able to like naturally connect with people.
She doesn't know that Gerty is obviously a fan favorite
that everybody will stand behind no matter what. So she
decides to pick a fight with Gerty over nothing, which
it's like that kind of thing where you're watching and
you're like, wait, why is Larsa doing this to herself?
Like everybody's obviously going to be on Gerty's side, and
(34:17):
then cancer comes into the picture. But I will say
I have cried a few times watching Gerty's journey and
watching other friends who do stand by her and support
her is really sweet.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
And Gerty's perfect husband who said that he wanted he
wished it was him that he could take this on
for her.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
Listen her Mary Firefighters is so cute.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
I do think the husband is a little bit like
emotionally like smothering his feelings, but he might just be
comfortable on camera like he's he's he seems kind of
too stoic, but listen, in a world the camera, in
a world of men, too stoic is the least of
our problems.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
So it's true.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
Nicole and her husband are probably my favorite because her
husband is really hot. To me, he is hot and
so is she. I know, they're kind of just like
the really hot couple. And she sort of feigns sanity,
but I think she's really just as toxic as all
the women, just mainly because she knows how to engage.
She does know how to like stay a part of
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the storyline without being too dragged in in a way.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
She maintains her mental health somehow while also getting in
screaming fights at a mother's day brunch.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
Which is what I need. That's what I when I'm
seeing that, I'll read for you. I mean, it's very
Kyle Richards.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
What about Kiki and what did she do that?
Speaker 2 (35:54):
Keik is funny that it's interesting, Like I don't know
why she is a full housewife and she has her mohido,
So why don't we get to see her personal life
by herself?
Speaker 1 (36:05):
More?
Speaker 2 (36:05):
Right?
Speaker 3 (36:06):
We only see her in relation to the other women
coming in and like telling a crazy sex story and
then everyone's like, oh my god, don't talk about having
a uti what.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
But it's like, can we see more about her life?
Speaker 2 (36:18):
Although I do relate to her in the sense that
she's like pissed off that Larsa and Lisa have boyfriends
and all they were do is out with their boyfriends.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
Well, I do want to talk about Larsa and Marcus
Jordan for a second, please, because I am so confused
by their relationship dynamic. They're obsessed with each other, positively
like addicted to each other. Marcus Jordan comes off really nerdy,
like a real big dork, and I feel like, I
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I like, is.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
It mommy issues? I don't know what it is that
attracts him to Larsa. No her, it's like the most
meanest that you can say.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
No, she doesn't look well. She does not look well.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
You can see her aspa plan the moon and I
don't know and how much of it is for show
or just for like loving the spotlight. But I'm also like,
maybe they are really just in love, And also why
are we gonna pretend it's not weird that she's Scottie
Pippens E's wife, and he's Michael Jordan's son, Like, stop
pretending that that is just normal and fine, and we
(37:28):
were friends at first, and that's not a very huge
flag that, like the mom doesn't have primary custody of
her own kids, Like sorry.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
But yeah, no, that's tough, but I will say that.
I wait, I'm sorry, Larsa doesn't have Remember she was
like saying that her daughter comes to visit her, like
just for the summer or something that is so stressful.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
And then she was being to her daughter. She was
being like, don't you think Marcus is fun? Like if
I had to date someone, don't, aren't you glad it's Marcus.
I'm like, oh god, the damage happening in front of
her eyes?
Speaker 1 (38:00):
Yes, but is bravo the damage happening in front of
our eyes? That should be their tagline.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
That should like like TBS characters welcome and Bravo the
damage happening in front of our eyes.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
But let me say this.
Speaker 3 (38:13):
On the Traders, Marcus Jordan, every single word he says
is like, well, you know, I'm a Jordan, so I'm
never gonna face last. Well, so yeah, I'm gonna be winning,
and you know I'm a Jordans, so I will not.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
Stop until my opponent.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
And it's like, but I will say on the Traders,
they do seem to all kind of have to narrate
that way where they're like, well, I'm a housewife, so
I know about backstabbing.
Speaker 1 (38:39):
Well, so I know that people are watching. It's like,
all right, can you guys that's my one.
Speaker 2 (38:45):
No, I'm like, can you guys just talk about like
the weather or something that's not related to the game
for one second and like maybe flirt with each other.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
Like they're getting drunk every night. It's like, could something happen,
maybe some romance.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
But isn't it crazy how good Brandy Glanville is in
the first season.
Speaker 1 (39:02):
She's really say what you want about her.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
She's crazy, toxic, probably has a variety of.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
Substance abuse problems, but she's good.
Speaker 3 (39:13):
At reading people. Well, Santa, she's not good at reading people.
Same with Kate from Below Deck. She was very She
wasn't as good at reading people, but she was good
at like staying in the game.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
And that's what we're trying to do. We're just trying
to stay in the game.
Speaker 3 (39:29):
True romance is actually really trying hard to stay in
the game right now.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
It's true. Carolina is trying hard to stay in the game.
Speaker 3 (39:36):
I'm trying hard to stay in the game. I'm trying
hard to have my last dance moment.
Speaker 1 (39:43):
Oh, I would love it.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
Well, we will keep you updated on Miami and all
of the housewives, and we'll let you know what we
think of the finale for Salt Lake City.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
And until then, I love you, Devin, love you, Carol.
Involunted was a little love. I want true. It's true, true,
(40:18):
It's so romantic. Love me, baby, don't leave me, haggin.
I want true
Oh I want.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Hello, and welcome to true Romance. This is Carolina Barlow,
this is Devin Leary and unfortunately it's time to be
real your nightmare. Oh no, oh no, but here we
are been real in my life.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Well, you've been on mine many times when.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
We were like, it's important to be honest and truthful,
and like, do you live in society.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
No one really wants you.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
The thing about being honest and truthful is no one
really wants to hear it. Yeah, and you know where
I've learned that, Bravo, Although I well i've learned that
from Bravo, but I also have like in the past
year where I was.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Having a mental breakdown.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
At times, I did like confront one of my closest
friends and I was like, okay, so if everyone in
the group has annoyed me, you need to just tell me,
like you need to just.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Be honest, like honestly, you just have to tell me
because it's not fair.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
And she was like, I really don't think anyone's talking
about you or thinking about you that.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
I was like, oh, okay.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Okay, so your delusion all great? So I thought we
were being real here. No, I mean I'm fake when
the time calls. You got to know how to be
fake when you need to be fake. But speaking of
fake ass motherfuckers who I cannot stand, Okay, please go on,
(01:38):
Ron de Sant does not kidding. So imagine I just
like a politics person. I'm like the idea. We shifted
our focus, We shifted our focus, and I suddenly read
now y Republicans suck.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
They're actually out for twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
No, I was gonna say that this is something that
grinds my so much.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
I almost posted about it. Two things.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
I almost post about it on social media today, but
I knew that I would regret it.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
One.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
I believe that Greta Gerwig was snubbed. I do not
believe that Margot Robbie was snubbed. IM agree.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
I believe that.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Ryan Gosling gave an incredible performance. He became a different person,
he became a non person, he became a doll, he
became everything we needed him to be. I believe Greta
Gerwig did something totally different with the blockbuster film medium,
and that deserves recognition. I don't believe that Margot Robbie's
(02:38):
Barbie was groundbreaking. Sorry America, Frere totally deserving.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
But I, yeah, Margot, he has Barbie, not an oscar
worthy performance, a good performance, a great performance, a fun performance.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Yes, not mister oh not, mister Tuah.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
And when I was in those theaters watching Barbie once twice,
three times, I did think Ryan Gosling needs an Oscar
for this. I about the same thing. Is it going
to go to him? No, it will go to Robert
Downey Jr. And I will be happy for that as well,
because you know, as he's charming. He's charming reads.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Under twenty books a year.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
I still respect and loved Oppenheimer.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Well, I want to see that. I haven't seen it yet.
I want to see Oppenheimer when it comes on.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Whatever he's sam streaming, when it's streaming out Peacock. I
know it's like, Okay, I guess this is what you
know what At the end of the day, life is
meaningless and Oppenheimer's on Peacock. But I also will say
that I think Margot Robbie might know. She seems really cool,
but there's a chance that her discourse about this behind
(03:56):
closed doors is similar to the discourse of that girl
Sam from Summerhouse in Winterhouse who was dating Corey Keefer and.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Just they she just broke up with him.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Because I listened to Sam's interview on the Not Skinny
but Not Fat podcast, which is a problematic podcast I hear.
I didn't know anything about it, but that person who
hosts that podcast like posted that they were going to
have the breakup interview with Sam whatever her name is
from Sam and Corey, So I was like, Okay, I
gotta listen. And the podcast started with Sam talking about
(04:29):
how everybody thinks that she got everything she has in
her career because her parents are wealthy, but that's not
actually why she got everything she has. And the interviewer
was like, why do you think they think that? And
she was like, well, when you're like pretty, people just
want to assume that you don't deserve success, Like they
want to find a problem for her and for Sam.
(04:50):
I can imagine Margot Robbie being like so just like
a really pretty hot girl playing Barbie and people are
threatened by that, so I don't get nominated, you know
what I mean, and like to a certain extent like yeah,
it's like, yeah, we were a Hawk girl who played
a Hawk girl. I don't know, And let me say this,
Sam Fahir Fair or whatever she did, she did turn
(05:12):
me because in the beginning, I'm like, oh my God,
I can't fucking stand this girl. Just get to the drama.
I want to know what happened. But by the end
I was on her side when she's talking about listening
to Better Man by Taylor Swift and walking down the
street realizing I'm in love with Corey but he's not
in love with me, and so I have to break
up with him. And by the way, it was very
interesting to have the perspective. So she basically said that
(05:34):
when he would come visit her in New York because
he lives in North Carolina, that first of all, he
refused to make it official. The whole time, she said, like,
it was like Valentine's Day and she got him a present,
but he literally came to visit her and didn't say anything.
God didn't even mention Valentine's Day. So she just kept
the president and never gave it to him. I was like,
I can't relate to anything more.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
But basically, he.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Would come visit her and she would he would go
record his testimonials for Winterhouse at the like Bravo Studios
in New York, and so she was like, he would
be in my bed being all like lovey dove or whatever,
and then go record these testimonials where he was like, uh.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
I guess Sam wants me to shoot or get off
the pot. Guess we're shitting like that.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
So she was like, as soon as she saw the
season air, she was like, all right, I have to
break up with him.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
He doesn't give a fuck about me. And so I
was on her side. By the end.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
I understood completely too when she said we didn't break
up because I didn't love him. We broke up because
he didn't love me. And I know that feeling when
you want to put that out they are into the
universe to see if the person will turn around.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
And be like, no, I do love you. Yeah. And
I wanted to say, Sam, that'll never happen. That will
never happen.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
They just, you know, it's like they just don't care
about you at the end of the day. And the
thing that's interesting is it's possible. Everyone told me this
was possible. Everybody said it, and I didn't believe it.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
It is actually post to get to the point where
you think I cannot believe I ever loved him. Like
in the sense of like he did not deserve me
at all, Like, oh my god, what was I thinking?
It's possible to get to that point of thinking, And
I am currently checking in from I can't believe I
ever loved him headquarters is me. I'm still not there unfortunately,
(07:24):
but I would love to you.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
I would love to visit. What are your hours? Come visit?
Speaker 2 (07:30):
I can't believe I ever loved him headquarters anytime between honestly,
only between four and seven pm, because before four pm
I'm tired and after seven pm I'm watching TV.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
So right, fair four TV.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
We've skipped around a little bit, but we've had the
fake ass motherfucker that you brought up earlier in the episode.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
It is a little man named Shepro. Oh.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
I literally was like, what was I talking at about
at the beginning of the what beginning of the episode?
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Are we recording? This is somebody?
Speaker 2 (08:02):
What?
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (08:03):
So Shep rose the last week? Check what was the
last we checked in on the pod about Shep? Do
we watch the reunion? Did you watch the final part
of the reunion? I watched the final part of the reunion.
I feel bad for Taylor, I feel bad for Olivia
I feel bad that this is the central conflict on
the show. I wish Madison was involved in drama because
she's more fun. She's, as you know, the inverse of
(08:29):
what Kim said once about Courtney.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
She's the most interesting to look at.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
So I greatest wish that she sort of had something
going on besides a seemingly perfect marriage. And I'm curious
more for the bts on that.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
I know me too.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
I'm like, I wouldn't be surprised if they like get divorced,
because she's actually insane underneath at all.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
I just don't believe that you can be someone like
her and suddenly live like this kind of Martha Stewart life.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Yeah, I agree, but there's something about him that's very boring.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
He's very boring. He does show up whenever she needs
him to, but that can be boring.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
I guess, Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Maybe I'm I always believe something lies beneath something actually,
like something like beneath what lies beneath with Harrison Ford
and Michelle Pfeiffer, because something did was lying beneath.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
I agree, something something something usually does.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
It's like you and I we always talk about couples
that seem happy.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
We're like, what are they hiding? Bodies?
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Bodies probably dead ex wives. One thing I have to
say is I don't.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Have to watch what lies beneath like later tonight. It's
so good.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
But I have to say I don't love like Hudson
her Son being shown like being bullied on the thing,
like I don't know.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
I thought you were just going to end it at Hudson,
Like I don't love Hudson.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
But but the Sun, the bullied Sun is not charismatic, no,
but like him coming in and like crying because he
was just bullied. It's like a little bit like did
that need to be like saved in historical footage or whatever?
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Right?
Speaker 3 (10:08):
But okay, but I will say it was I felt
bad for Taylor too, But I loved Olivia's boundary of
being like, well, I forgive you, but I'm not going
to be your friend, or like I feel sad for you,
but I'm not going to be your friend. And I
did at one point when they were cheersing, when they
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were cheersing with tinfoil hats on, and Shep was like
giving a weird speech about how you just have to
like be yourself and like I was like, honestly, like,
did my ancestors immigrate to the United States from a
different country so that I could be sitting on my
couch watching this and being watching this and my face
fully with a smile on, just like take like balloon face,
(10:55):
taking it all in.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Thank you. I was like, this is tough for the
legacy of my family. Irish that this is what I do.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
More like, irish need apply to a ten Bravo Con
twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
No, but yeah, so but I will say, okay, so
we this is all right, this is what's making me angry.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Okay, So Andy does this whole rigormarole of like SHEP
has something to say. SHEP addresses the group, says he's
still drinking, and obviously everyone's like, so, then you haven't
changed it at all.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
Then SHEP does this weird speech at the end, and
I'm like, all right, he's been giving this platform. Hopefully
something is going to come out of this. Then he
posts on Instagram. First he posts this weird Instagram where
he's like, I can't share the full things.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
I don't know how to edit a video. And then
I'm reminded he's middle aged. This man that is hungover
twenty four to seven when he's not drunk and constantly
going after girls who are like twenty five years old.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
And like spanking their ass and yelling at them and
calling them stupid idiots who haven't who don't know the
history of Jamaica because they haven't traveled enough exactly.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
No, he's middle aged, and.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
He posts this video but it's like botched and you
can't really tell what it is. And then he finally
posted today the real thing or whatever. He's like, I
got some editing helps, so now I can finally post
my video, which is him in a T shirt that
says amateur, which, by.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
The way, I hate this.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
I hate this in wealthy white men who are like, dude,
I know nothing, Like if I know anything, it's that
I know nothing, and it's like, what does that mean?
Speaker 1 (12:35):
And it's him talking about how.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
He did ayahuasca for a week at a place that
he's sponsored by and you can use code relationship to
like go do ayahuasca at this place, and that's how
he's had a life changing journey. And he's talking about
how basically like his epitome in the ayahuasca trip was
that his upbringing was perfect compared to everyone else, and like,
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and I'm like, this is the problem, Like, yes, he's
very privileged, but they're.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Obviously meant an epiphany and I can't let it go.
What I say, epitome Listen, I'm amped up. It's just,
you know, words are coming out. I don't know. Maybe
that was God wanted me to say that for some reason.
That's true.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
No, but I hate that because it's like something dark obviously.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
Happened to him at some point.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
But I think it's a huge red flag when people
are like, my family's perfect.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
What do you mean my parents are perfect?
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Because it's like, well, something went wrong that you're blacking
out at bravocon and like, don't remember the whole weekend,
Like something happened there. That sentence blacking out at Bravocon
thing darker truly in Last Vegas, by the way, it's
the darkest scenario of all time.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
It's really bad. And it's like, I just I don't.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
It just made me angry because I'm like, so you
clearly haven't changed at all, but you think that we oh,
And he's like and I this is my notebook where
I've been journaling. That's another thing with men, it's like
I journal, actually, so I do think about my behavior.
It's like talking to a piece of paper and doing
drugs does not make an emotionally intelligent person. You have
therapy jokes from wet, hot American summer when Paul Rud's
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like just writing on my girnal.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
It's so stupid. But I completely agree.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
I know people who have done ayahuasca and guess what,
it does not change you. I'm sorry, it makes you
shit your pants. It just makes you shit your pants.
And I can do that with a little help from
smooth Move tea.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
Okay, yeah, I can drink some tea and shit my pants,
and I can get it out of Whole Foods. I
don't need to fly to Costa Rica.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Yeah, you don't need to like exploit indigenous people to
make them like watch you shit yourself and talk about
your mom and cry.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Rory Scoville has a bit where he's like, I don't
mind diarrhea.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Really so funny.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Why why would you not mind that? Like, what's the explanation.
I think it's just the idea that like it feels good.
Ew No, okay, I'm sorry to our listeners.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Okay, Well that's.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Just awful, and I wish you'd never say such dirty
things into the microphone.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
You know what, that's just horrible.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
My mom used to always, for some reason, tell this story.
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
If you think this is offensive, we can cut it out.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
But like my mom used to always say, for some reason,
which I feel like is just such a thing for
adults to say to kids.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
And it's like why and where did this come from?
Speaker 3 (15:30):
But she used to say, actually, like they asked people
who speak other languages what they think of English words,
and a lot of people think diarya is one of
the most beautiful words in the English language.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
I don't find that offensive all. Why would she say that.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
She would always say that, And I remember being a
kid and being like, oh my god that I remember
being like, now, this really.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Sparks the curiosity.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
So if they didn't know what diary is, they thought
it sounded beautiful. And she'd be like, like, they heard
the word roses, they heard the word this, that, and
they heard diarrhea, they thought it was beautiful. I'm like, okay,
you know, when you really.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Hear of it, you're really making the neurons fire.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
You're making the neurons fire with that one. It's hard
to root for someone who is like I had an
epitome or epiphany were I'll take either that.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
My upbringing was pretty nice.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Yeah, that's my problem, and it's like shocking, No, you've
been afforded every luxury and you're just kind of like
a narcissist and maybe uh, you know, alcoholic sex addict.
So totally, it's really that Seal could even be good
at sex. Like about that's that movie shame with Michael Fastbender.
Maybe you should have made it more interesting by making
(16:55):
it about a guy who can't fuck but constantly.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Feels the need to.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
That's so such a good point instead of like a
hot Michael Fastbender having crazy second comedy and comedy where
he's like, oh man, another girl I couldn't take.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Come my? What did he say?
Speaker 3 (17:13):
He was like, your tongue gets tired? Yeah, it's like,
oh my god, who's there an orgasm for you?
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Miss?
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Nope, it's no lam shut, it's actually no one behind
the door. That's the that's our pitch lions Gate Summit
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Speaker 1 (17:34):
Correct me if I'm wrong. You've been watching The Traders.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
Yeah, so I do like to be a part of
culture in the sense that every single day when I
watch Miami Housewives and other things on Peacock, I get
it's like automatically turns on The Traders afterwards, like it
just auto plays, and I'm always like, Okay, I'm not
gonna watch this.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
I don't care. I don't care. I don't care.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
But finally enough people spoke its praises and I couldn't
get enough of Larsa, and I saw Phaedra's on the
new season, so I decided to turn on The Traders.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
And this what I'll say.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
It's not anything new because I know everyone's talking about
this show anyway. The Traders reminds me why.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
When I was a freshman in high school my life
was saved by a group of women in Coto Decaza,
Orange County, California.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Why Bravo changed my life.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
Why, you know, watching Joe Dela Rosa becoming a stepmom
at twenty three and then wanting to smoke cigarettes in
the club, and Slade getting angry at her, and Lori
having to move into a town home out of her mansion,
and Brianna getting mad at Vicky because Vicky said that
Brianna's prom was also about her herself, like Vicky saying, well,
(18:52):
your promide is also about me because I'm your mom.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Why did that save my life? Because this is why.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Reality TV is medicine. Because we are brought up with
a sickness of shame.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
In this society, we are told, I'm nodding, we don't
take ourselves seriously enough, we take ourselves too seriously. We're
over dramatic that you're crying, You're a faker. Hide your emotions,
hide your sexuality, don't talk about masturbating, don't be yourself.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
And to watch.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
People shamelessly take everything they do so seriously, To shamelessly
take seriously the fact that you wore a hat and
bracelets promoting a charity called kill hashtag Kill All Cancer,
and that charity turned out to be false in the
(19:52):
same year that your boyfriend openly lied about having cancer
for attention. To seriously go to a reunion having done
both of those things and face everyone with a straight
face and say, yeah, okay, and I'm sorry, and I'm
being my best self and I'm working out myself. And
to have a whole room of people treat that with
I mean sorry, the seriousness of cancer and say like
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this matters, like that's healing, and Trade is the epitome
of that because it's literally like I turn on.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
The first episode I.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
Watched was season two of episode episode one of season two.
Now I've seen every single episode. I binged it all
in like a day a season one and two. But
the season two, episode one opens and it's like Alan
coming walking around in a circle of all these adults
with their eyes closed. They literally like duck duck goose,
their eyes are closed, and he's talking saying things like
(20:48):
I can't do his accent, so I won't even try,
but he's saying things.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Like you might all think that you've had your shining moment,
Well your light's about to go out if you get murdered.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
And they're all like and like they're all taking it
so seriously.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
They're like doing challenges and they're trying to guess, like
who is the secret murderer. And for some reason, there's
a guy. So season one was normal people mixed with
reality stars. Season two is reality stars and for some reason,
a professional boxer and a man from the UK House
of Commons with some government agency named John, and he's
like old and everyone thinks that John They're dead serious.
(21:29):
Not a laugh or smile is broken in these conversations
talking about how they think John is the trader the
murderer because they heard him take a deep breath when
Alan coming was walking around choosing the murderer, and they're like, oh,
he must have been tapped on the shoulder as the
trader and then he took a deep breath. So Tamar
confronts John, and John says, I have asthma.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Then they cut to them in a challenge and John
is sprinting like really fast, this old man with this
big pot belly sprinting and Tamra's like, everybody knows that
if you had as you would need an inhaler to
run that fast, So okay, so you have asthma. Like
this is how seriously they take everything. Deonte, the professional boxer,
like starts crying because he gives this speech about who
(22:12):
he thinks is the trader, and he's like, this man
has become a clown and he.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Has fooled me. And I put my trust in this
man and he is working his magic on me.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
And everyone's like and then Max is like the guy
he's talking and he's like and the man I'm talking
about is Max, and then Max is like, I'm not
a trader, I'm a faithful and Deontay cries and.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
He's like, I can't do this anymore. I just can't
do this ruining people's life. It's just all it's so amazing.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
They take it all so seriously, Like again, not a
smile or laugh is broken, not once, like not once.
Even at one point Kate in season one, they're like,
She's like, I think Rachel's the trader because I can't
trust someone who would ever address and outfits like that,
and she's betraying herself dressing like that, and Rachel dead
serious is like really, wow really, and it's like that's
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why we love the Housewise, that's why we love all
this because they're not for the most part, they're not
laughing at themselves.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
They're just like, yeah, now this is my life, Like
this is dead serious.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
And I think that's freeing for all of us who've
been forced to become like commentators on our own lives
on social media as a way to like bury down
our own shame instead of dealing with it.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Yeah, I completely agree. I think that it's freeing.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
I mean, I went into wait deep anxious spiral last night,
having almost interrupted someone when they were in an important conversation.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
I was so upset with myself.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
It was it was you shouldn't interrupt people when they
look with the having a private to their girlfriend.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Yeah exactly, and asking them if they're single.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
But I my, my, my reaction to a small mistake
was unwarranted. And we watch people, as you said, have
partners that faked cancer, have uh screamed at people on
(24:23):
the phone who are watching themselves in a blackout, saying
that Haitians will never go to college. You know, we
are watching that, and and these women are watching that
over again, and they do not seem to be having
(24:45):
the internal anything like I went through last night. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
Well it's also like it's you know, the journey to
self forgiveness and love for me has been like looking
back on moments that were so painfully like shameful to
me that I like would flinch and feel so overwhelmed
with like disgust when I thought about like being black
out at a party, or like embarrassing myself or like whatever.
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And the other thing about these shows is like these people, yeah,
they're like I did that. That's I own it. Like
there is something healing about that. It's like they're like,
I own it, and I might be back for another season.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
I mean, listen. Phaedra was fired for.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
Claiming that Candy Buris dragged Portcha to her sex dungeon
and roofed her.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
And now she's back and literally no one cares. We're
like pay.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
Draga and she's like, She's like, okay, yes, like I
did run a funeral business, Like I know a lot
about murder because I literally worked at a few.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
It's like, Okay, you worked at a funeral business. Okay,
that's a new era, got it?
Speaker 3 (25:48):
Like you're you can be whoever you want to be
in this world and people will forget about your biggest
mistakes and only remember your victories.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
That is such an important reminder. And I love that
she said don't come for the Housewives. She immediately shut
down anything about them faking storylines or acting or anything
like that.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
They were just and Larsa was like, we just love
our lives.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
I mean, Larsa is one of my least favorite well,
she's one of my favorite villains, I will say in
Housewives history, because I just hate being lied to by
someone who says this is all my natural appearance and
then they do a flashback.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
They literally did a flashback.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
On Miami this season of Larsa talking to a medium
and I didn't know who it was. I was like, wait,
who's that random woman? And I google it and realized
that was what Larsa used to look like.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
I've never actually seen someone undergo such a intent and
I'm not. I was thinking this today while watching Miami.
I thought, I've never seen someone grow their nose with
plastic surgery, Like it's.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
Yeah, she's so yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
It just like he just did look so beautiful before,
Like I don't. I'm just like, you were hot enough
to be like an NBA wife. That wasn't enough, I
guess not. I mean it's just Adrianna said. You can
see her ask from Planet Moon.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Okay, So we have to.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
Talk about Real House Eves in Miami because we have
been sleeping on it, and I do think it is,
besides Salt Lake City, the best franchise we have.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
I think also visually, like the Miami girls have style
that's incomparable. They are literally dressed as if they're going
to a theme party every day, and every day is
Miami every day, Like they're so hyped up on Miami.
They also call each other bro, which is my favorite thing,
(27:49):
like fuck off Bro, no really fuck off bro, or
like bro.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
And they all have insane backstories. I mean, and Alsatia
was like a proper mob wife.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
I know, well a friend of the pod who I
won't name in case she doesn't want to be named,
but that I'm in a group chat with. It was
like listening off like she was basically like the reason
why because I was saying, like, Miami is the best
franchise because it's everything that is Housewives at its best,
Delusional people who have endless amounts of money to spend
(28:26):
on their weird little hobbies and who get really activated
when they get in an argument, and who at the
end of the day will support each other no matter what,
like yes, yes, yes, what you need, and then you
need a villain like Larsa that's just like kind of
doesn't care about anyone but.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Herself, telling people that Gertie has cancer when Gertie asked
her specifically not too.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Yes, and when she by the way, when Gertie tells her,
and then she's like, okay, well I didn't know that,
Like well I did not know that, Well, you're gonna
tell them anyways. It's like, do you realize what you're
talking about right now?
Speaker 1 (29:01):
Well, so no.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
The thing that my friend sent to the group chat
was like basically she was like, I just think they
all have the most interesting storylines and starts listening them off,
and it's like so many things that I even forget,
Like basically Alexia, first of all, Marrisol's mom was like
this woman who had the most insane plastic surgery of
all time and passed away rip. And then Alexia was
(29:23):
married to a drug kingpin that there's literally a documentary
about on Netflix because of how insane his life was.
Then she was married to a gay man who she
knew was gay, but she loved him anyway. She has
like these two sons, one with a traumatic brain injury.
Now she's married to Todd. Like everything is dramatic. Julia
had like someone stalking her and trying to steal her
(29:46):
baby from her.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
This is true, you know, I say, as if I'm
a friend, I'm like, no, this is true. Dirty, Like
her family is home burned down or something, or she
lost both her brothers or something like it just ever,
everyone has like trauma. Everyone has a crazy backstory and
they're all like coming there with this.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Then oh, by the way, Then the Lenny situation, which
is like Lisa and Lennie, Yeah, Lisa and.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
Lenny, and the fact that they're constantly like all right,
shut up about that, and I'm like, wait, this is
actually crazy what she's going through though, Like I understand,
but it's kind of funny how they like write her
off and are just like all right, that's enough hearing
about that.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
It's like, Lisa is fascinating to me.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
I love that she set a reminder to check in
on her boyfriend's feelings and told him, Okay, I'm just
setting a reminder on my phone. I just want to
call and see how are your feelings and he's literally going,
my feelings are good. It's giving like a sociopath who's
like trying to practice how to be human. And she says, Okay,
I'll check in with you at eight thirty. I mean,
(30:48):
I should be so lucky to find like a boyfriend
who will like check in with me about my feelings regularly.
But well, let me say this too, Like Lisa, it
is interesting when something bad happens to someone who's not necessarily.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
Good, you know what I mean, Like IM like a
hard to empathize so her poor the poor children. I'm sorry,
Like that's so hard, the poor children.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
She's like bringing the kid to the fucking bank to
get a bank account, and she's like telling him I
used to work at dairy queen.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
It's like, everything's not about you.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
Everything is about her and her world though, And it
is kind of this thing where it's like, okay, listen,
Lenny is evil, but you were happily.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
Connected to him exactly.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
Sorry to say, there's something that is super cold about her.
I just think that she I don't know if it's
calling the police on her in front of her kids
(31:56):
and then leaving to go to a party afterwards.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
I don't know what it is.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
It probably is that, but there's something that doesn't generate sympathy.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
There's something that doesn't generate sympathy. That's very true.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
But she's also siding with Larsa, which isn't a great
side to stand on.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
They remind me of girls in like seventh grade who
are like, Okay, let's decide that you're my best friend. Okay,
you're my best friend too, and it's like we have
no connection, but we both need a best friend totally.
This is a classic Housewives scenario playing out before us,
where we have two classic housewife scenarios happening. One delusional
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music career which is actually happening in two cases with it, Adriana,
which she's been doing it for two seasons now, her
music career where she actually goes to her recording studio
just to lip sync, which I've never seen.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
Before, and I've thought about that.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
Much as Alexia hates Adriana, she's always like, I gotta
say that song is dope.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
It's still ritting for her music for her, I love
that song.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
And then Julia singing opera. So Julia is perfect because
she does not ever She's like very free spirited but
takes everything she does very seriously, which is perfect.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
It's perfect farm that has the lifestyle that I would
actually like aspire to have.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
She's like posing off her dog but looking beautiful and
like overall it's naturally like hair falling into place and
she's like, oh hi, Martina.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
Yeah with don Sevan goats all things that I want.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
So there's that. And then the other classic housewive storyline
is when a when a villain. You know, the villains
usually are not very socially adept outside of like Brandy
or there's some who are. But a villain like Larsa
doesn't know who the fans will love, you know what
I mean, Like she doesn't know who to latch onto
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because she's not able to like naturally connect with people.
She doesn't know that Gerty is obviously a fan favorite
that everybody will stand behind no matter what. So she
decides to pick a fight with Gerty over nothing, which
it's like that kind of thing where you're watching and
you're like, wait, why is Larsa doing this to herself?
Like everybody's obviously going to be on Gerty's side, and
(34:17):
then cancer comes into the picture. But I will say
I have cried a few times watching Gerty's journey and
watching other friends who do stand by her and support
her is really sweet.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
And Gerty's perfect husband who said that he wanted he
wished it was him that he could take this on
for her.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
Listen her Mary Firefighters is so cute.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
I do think the husband is a little bit like
emotionally like smothering his feelings, but he might just be
comfortable on camera like he's he's he seems kind of
too stoic, but listen, in a world the camera, in
a world of men, too stoic is the least of
our problems.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
So it's true.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
Nicole and her husband are probably my favorite because her
husband is really hot. To me, he is hot and
so is she. I know, they're kind of just like
the really hot couple. And she sort of feigns sanity,
but I think she's really just as toxic as all
the women, just mainly because she knows how to engage.
She does know how to like stay a part of
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the storyline without being too dragged in in a way.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
She maintains her mental health somehow while also getting in
screaming fights at a mother's day brunch.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
Which is what I need. That's what I when I'm
seeing that, I'll read for you. I mean, it's very
Kyle Richards.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
What about Kiki and what did she do that?
Speaker 2 (35:54):
Keik is funny that it's interesting, Like I don't know
why she is a full housewife and she has her mohido,
So why don't we get to see her personal life
by herself?
Speaker 1 (36:05):
More?
Speaker 2 (36:05):
Right?
Speaker 3 (36:06):
We only see her in relation to the other women
coming in and like telling a crazy sex story and
then everyone's like, oh my god, don't talk about having
a uti what.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
But it's like, can we see more about her life?
Speaker 2 (36:18):
Although I do relate to her in the sense that
she's like pissed off that Larsa and Lisa have boyfriends
and all they were do is out with their boyfriends.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
Well, I do want to talk about Larsa and Marcus
Jordan for a second, please, because I am so confused
by their relationship dynamic. They're obsessed with each other, positively
like addicted to each other. Marcus Jordan comes off really nerdy,
like a real big dork, and I feel like, I
(36:53):
I like, is.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
It mommy issues? I don't know what it is that
attracts him to Larsa. No her, it's like the most
meanest that you can say.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
No, she doesn't look well. She does not look well.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
You can see her aspa plan the moon and I
don't know and how much of it is for show
or just for like loving the spotlight. But I'm also like,
maybe they are really just in love, And also why
are we gonna pretend it's not weird that she's Scottie
Pippens E's wife, and he's Michael Jordan's son, Like, stop
pretending that that is just normal and fine, and we
(37:28):
were friends at first, and that's not a very huge
flag that, like the mom doesn't have primary custody of
her own kids, Like sorry.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
But yeah, no, that's tough, but I will say that.
I wait, I'm sorry, Larsa doesn't have Remember she was
like saying that her daughter comes to visit her, like
just for the summer or something that is so stressful.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
And then she was being to her daughter. She was
being like, don't you think Marcus is fun? Like if
I had to date someone, don't, aren't you glad it's Marcus.
I'm like, oh god, the damage happening in front of
her eyes?
Speaker 1 (38:00):
Yes, but is bravo the damage happening in front of
our eyes? That should be their tagline.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
That should like like TBS characters welcome and Bravo the
damage happening in front of our eyes.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
But let me say this.
Speaker 3 (38:13):
On the Traders, Marcus Jordan, every single word he says
is like, well, you know, I'm a Jordan, so I'm
never gonna face last. Well, so yeah, I'm gonna be winning,
and you know I'm a Jordans, so I will not.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
Stop until my opponent.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
And it's like, but I will say on the Traders,
they do seem to all kind of have to narrate
that way where they're like, well, I'm a housewife, so
I know about backstabbing.
Speaker 1 (38:39):
Well, so I know that people are watching. It's like,
all right, can you guys that's my one.
Speaker 2 (38:45):
No, I'm like, can you guys just talk about like
the weather or something that's not related to the game
for one second and like maybe flirt with each other.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
Like they're getting drunk every night. It's like, could something happen,
maybe some romance.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
But isn't it crazy how good Brandy Glanville is in
the first season.
Speaker 1 (39:02):
She's really say what you want about her.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
She's crazy, toxic, probably has a variety of.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
Substance abuse problems, but she's good.
Speaker 3 (39:13):
At reading people. Well, Santa, she's not good at reading people.
Same with Kate from Below Deck. She was very She
wasn't as good at reading people, but she was good
at like staying in the game.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
And that's what we're trying to do. We're just trying
to stay in the game.
Speaker 3 (39:29):
True romance is actually really trying hard to stay in
the game right now.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
It's true. Carolina is trying hard to stay in the game.
Speaker 3 (39:36):
I'm trying hard to stay in the game. I'm trying
hard to have my last dance moment.
Speaker 1 (39:43):
Oh, I would love it.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
Well, we will keep you updated on Miami and all
of the housewives, and we'll let you know what we
think of the finale for Salt Lake City.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
And until then, I love you, Devin, love you, Carol.
Involunted was a little love. I want true. It's true, true,
(40:18):
It's so romantic. Love me, baby, don't leave me, haggin.
I want true
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