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June 28, 2022 59 mins

In the last episode of the season, Anna and Kyle’s Herculean investigation into the mysterious horror festival director, Beep Macrame, finally comes to a close. Will they make it to the sexy horror musical in time? Will the fear become too great? Will they make the biggest mistake of all… and fall in love?

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to Truth Hounds, a production of My Heart Radio.
I'm Anna and I've been unemployed for two years now,
so I really have nothing going on. And I'm Kyle,
and in middle school I received the ward most Enthusiastic
to learn. So that makes me pretty special. And that

(00:22):
is what makes us the perfect investigative duo. We are
two friends who love each other very much, but what
we love even more is getting to the bottom of mysteries.
All mysteries, sure, but small mysteries specifically. Trust me, No
mystery is too small? No, no, no, Why don't you
trust me when I tell you we are ready to

(00:44):
sniff around? We are the The Truth Hounds, Episode ten,
What is Fear and Why Can't I Look Away? Part seven? Yeah,

(01:05):
check this out. I don't wish them. I don't wish that. Oh.
I had just motioned to a semi truck driver to
honk his horn and he did, you see. To pass

(01:30):
the time and to honestly avoid our fears of what
was to come, we played childish road games. I'll admit it,
we did. But come on, who doesn't love Hong Kong?
And hey, don't lie to me. So there we were
on the road on our way to confront beat Macromay,

(01:55):
and yes, it was pretty fun to play Hong Kong.
The journey to Vegas seemed long, but nothing compared to
the bigger journey of us getting to the road to
Vegas in the first place. All this time in the
car gave us time to reflect on what we had

(02:18):
been through. I had found a website with a spell
binding man who we would later dub Beep macromy and
I showed it to Kyle just google film festival. How

(02:39):
I heard it. I saw the website, I saw the man,
and I got scared. Oh what is that so far?
What is that scary? Yeah? I wanted to make Kyle
less scared, so I proposed we confront beat back for me.

(03:01):
Head on, I think we should make a movie to
submit to this festival. Oh my god. All we knew
about this man was that he ran a horror film festival.
So we made a short horror film in the hopes
of getting into the festival. In turn, your Living Room nine.

(03:24):
Turns out what we've just seen is a horror and hey,
let's not gloss over making the film and all that
had entailed. You know what, We're going to make the
short in four hours. We sought out the perfect director. Okay,
let's make some hired a screenwriter with festival experience. I've

(03:44):
written lots of shorts before, one of all went through
the Sundancial festival. Worked meticulously with our acting coach. What
the intention behind the world brought on professional actors? Well,
she just had the it factor. Spread our resources thin
raising funds for the hundred fifty dollar submission fee. We

(04:05):
are seeking your how today because we want to make
a short. Found it nearly broke our backs trying to
stay awake and upright through the long are Jewish shooting hours.
It's really interesting. I don't really know what factors do
this hard and do not forget about the pizza and

(04:26):
the salad. The pizza and salad had arrived, but it
seemed like no one and the crew scared all of
this to make a movie that we hoped would get
into the festival. And here's the thing it did. Then

(04:51):
we had to raise funds again to attend the festival
and get over the fact that the festival was taking
place on line, virtual screen or sufficient deadline. We are
currently organizing our virtual festival this year. We wouldn't get
the chance to meet Beat mcramay face to face. We

(05:13):
got mad, get me, get that rap rap, so mad
that we decided to take a few weeks off. Where
did that leave us? Didn't that mean we were done?
That was it? And then we got COVID. I'll have COVID,

(05:38):
Nanna also have COVID? And then we got even We
staked out his house. We were just two girls on
a drive, definitely not psyching it. And then we decided
we were taking it too far, so we reeled it

(06:00):
in by organizing our very own film festival. Festival is
a direct portal to the universe of the unknown, and
turned the tables on beat Macromy, inviting him to take
a step into our world. We had to book a venue,

(06:21):
select real films, conduct a real horror panel. There's so
much for going out the very film Festival. Wow, they
don't tell you until you get up here. Help writing
him and he didn't show up. Well, he emailed us
and told us he was away from his desk. I
have been away from my death. And then he saw

(06:46):
that there was another way. Beat Macromy was holding another
film event, this time in person but out of state,
and I saw an event happening in a couple of
weeks in Las Vegas. So we packed our bags, took

(07:10):
a detour to a psychic's place to make sure we
would be safe, then hit the road and on the
way there we hit a revelation, something that the psychic
had not predicted. Did you see what I just saw?

(07:30):
I cannot even believe the event we were actually driving
to was a sexy horror musical. And then we hit
something else. Traffic stop. We're stuck in a How long

(08:02):
is this stuck in traffic? And it's just a huge
jam At this point, it's I mean, like, where the
chances It's just crazy because what if we have to
We're trying to get to Vegans We're trying to get
to Vegas. I mean, what if we have to go
straight from the car to the damn musical sexy horror musically. Wan,

(08:24):
I'm be able to drop off my bags and slash
some water on my face. Yeah, I would love to
slash some water on my face before and you know,
this is too much, This is crazy. It seemed another
thing that the psychic had not predicted was a huge

(08:47):
traffic jam on the fifteen, But to be fair to them,
we showed the psychic a photo of beat macromy We
didn't show the psychic a photo of the highway, so
that was our mistake. We sat in the traffic jam
and lamented. You know what. Honestly, it's times like these

(09:10):
that I wish I had basically our podcast to listen to.
But we we there isn't a podcast like ours. There
isn't a podcast like ours for us, so I'm actually
envious of the listeners. The traffic didn't clear up, and honestly,

(09:32):
he started to get really bored fast, and eventually that
boredom seemed to drive us to madness. Well, between us,
we have one excuse me or excuse what? Why is this? What? Out?

(09:54):
There's a guy who was kind of staring at us,
and it was a little scary. But then I go,
I'm gonna stare back at it because he doesn't maybe
I'm scary. See he hasn't looked at us since he's
passing us right now. If I go, Kyle, you don't know,
maybe I'm scared. Okay, So someone comes into your house, yeah,

(10:15):
like attack you. I guess your tactic would be to
be like, I've ben't we for you? Yeah? You go,
they break into your house and you go. At last,
you go and come along. I don't even know what

(10:41):
we were saying back there. My Toyota Prius was turning
into a certified madhouse, no offense. But as time passed,
boredom read imagination, we found ourselves imagining what this sexy
Horn musical might be. Like it, let's just try to

(11:01):
picture what we're gonna see tonight, because I think there's
no way to get ready for what we're gonna see tonight.
But what about um? What about like like she moved
her spider legs, But you don't think it's like that.
I think it's gonna be a lot like when I
saw my cousins. My cousin was in Macbeth play. Okay,

(11:26):
we're not in the theater, so it's okay, Scottish pocket
at my my cousin was in a sexy Macbeth play.
So like the three Witches at the beginning, we're just
like make a bed, okay, Oh like Chicago, like Cicero
lick shits, sex sex themselves, Oh myka, like let me

(11:52):
remove my lip ring before I kiss you on the mouth.
You know, but you love me? You wn by devil hole?
Do you think it's like that. Okay. We really didn't
know what to expect, but one thing was for sure.

(12:15):
We knew what we would be seeing would be life changing.
Then we sat in more traffic, and by the way,
the traffic was bad around us, a lifeless desert, hot air, tumbleweeds,

(12:51):
army man crawling their way across the barren land, bugs
that seemed to be dormant mid air. You looked to
the car on your left, and the driver looks like
he wants to kill himself. He looked at the car

(13:11):
and you're right, and there's a woman laughing maniacally. You
say to yourself, maybe she's not laughing at me. You
look back at her and she's nodding, holding up a
sign that says, we literally have been in this traffic

(13:54):
for over two hours. No, it's been an hour or
two two and a half hours now, So we can't
even go to the hotel. We have to go straight
to the fucking where the funk the thing is, and
it's got sauce baked on her shirt. You don't understand, okay,
So basically I didn't I didn't find you know, I
didn't find it necessary to say anything earlier. But basically,
I spelled a lot of ketchup in my black T

(14:16):
shirt earlier. He acts like intertwined with the fabric of
my shirts, baked into my shirts. It's also it's like
cotton and ketchup exactly. It's like in the DNA of
the shirt. I don't know if you've ever been there,

(14:43):
but sitting and stand still traffic in the middle of
the desert with ketchup baked into the DNA of your
shirt was hell. Which was ironic because we were on
our way to an event that was terrifying, and it
felt as if we had to walk through hell to

(15:06):
get there. It was almost like the universe was asking us,
are you sure you want to do this? And then
like all traffic out of nowhere, with no rhyme or reason,

(15:27):
it just ended. That's it. That's it. We had sat
in so much traffic that we were now forced to
drive straight to the event. There would be no time
to collect ourselves, splash water on our faces, get a

(15:50):
bite to eat. We would immediately be thrown into the
sexy horror musical den. Maybe, though well, this was definitely
a curse, you could also prove to be a blessing
because it would mean that there would be no time
to talk ourselves out of going. The fear was building.

(16:18):
Do you feel something something scary? I mean, yeah, I'm
definitely scared. I'm like, you can't not do it. There's
too many people who would be really mad and disappointed
in us. So I like, I feel like we're like
there's no way out. Yes, yeah, definitely, damn well os.

(16:47):
Up until this point, Anna was not afraid, and now,
with twenty minutes to go, she became very afraid. M Then,
now I'm starting to get a little nervous. So so
to calm my nerves, I proposed we rehearse what we

(17:10):
would say. I would play myself and Kyle would play
beat back. Romy She was really good at acting, so
I was certain she would do a hell of a job.
The reason for doing this was because we were getting
nervous and the psychic had instructed us to be concise

(17:35):
and straightforward. And then also that we needed to get
him to sign a release form that would be no
easy feat. And lastly, let's not forget we needed to
not fall in love. Hey wish us luck on that one.

(17:57):
So we got to practicing. I I'm so sorry to
interrupt it's totally okay. Um, are you deep macmay Um? Well, actually, yeah,
that I am. We we're actually wondering if it's okay

(18:21):
if we could like interview you, if that would be
okay for um, just like I ask you a public questions? Um,
thing is I say? I just kind of have to talk.
It could be really quick of you, like right now? Um, okay,
what what is it? More? Uh? We're actually might put

(18:42):
together a little podcast. Oh yeah. Once we had figured
how the conversation would flow and how we would approach
getting him to sign the release form, we talked about
what questions we would actually ask him, because keep in mind,
this was a once in a lifetime opportunity. But let

(19:09):
me ask you this. He goes, yeah, shoot, what do
you want to know? Okay? What are we about to know?
So I'm him, Okay, I don't know anything. Or nope,
I'm asking you because I don't know what to ask.
I'm him Okay, Okay, Well what's hell comes here? Yeah?
This time around, I would step into the cloak of

(19:30):
beet macromy you know his role, and Kyle would play
her very interesting self. Thanks so much for taking this
interview of A First question would be like, you're the
festival director of festival, when what all goes into putting

(19:50):
the other festival? That's a pretty big question, a lot
of moving parts. Okay, m hmm, I know things are
getting really good, but we have to take a break

(20:12):
for some ads, and the ad break is over back
to it. So there were three questions we needed to
ask beat macromy One we would ask him a psych

(20:33):
out question. We would go, so you run this amazing festival,
what goes into that? Truthfully, this was a decoy question.
Just get him feeling comfy, are thinking being Get him
talking about something he was passionate about while we stood

(20:56):
by and got over the shock of being in front
of him. Two, this was a real question. We had
to ask him about film festival roster. Remember when we
first visited the site, we were dumbfounded at the frankly

(21:18):
contrasting lineup of festival staff. In case you need a reminder,
she said that his coordinated. She's holding up a metal
um demon. Yeah, this guy just looks cool. This guy, Okay,
that's actually the scariest picture of all be it just

(21:39):
looks like a guy in his house. He took his
picture by accident without his share and to finish off
the toughest and probably the most important question. We hated
to be money minded, but we needed to know where
did this man get off arging us a hundred and

(22:01):
fifty dollars to apply to his film festival, and hey,
don't forget about the additional fifty dollars for attending the
festival that was not in person but online. I'm scared
to do the one question. That one was a little

(22:22):
that's last. But I think the word, the way you
worded it was great. Actually, I don't know. I think
we have to. I think that's we have to. You know,
it's a exit. Yeah, since we were still scared, but

(22:45):
at least we were armed with a plan. We had
spent most of the drive preparing for whatever was to come,
and before we knew it, we were at the location. Yeah, sure,
there's no one here. There is kind of no one here. Okay,

(23:08):
there's no one here. There's literally no one, no one here,
that is true. Okay, should we go into the parking
lot here? Do you want to parking? Or maybe there isn't. Okay,
there's one guy that's the theater, so that's where it
will be. But there's little bays, so let's see. We

(23:32):
found it and parked. We were happy to discover that
the auditorium where the event would take place it was
actually housed in a public building which seemed to be
really busy. That was a huge relief, and at the
same time, we weren't celebrating just yet, because who knew.

(23:56):
Maybe all the parked cars signified that the building was busy. Well,
the event, well that could still be ill attended. That's
the sound of my seatbelt. I'm going to take us
of a coffee because this is a lot. We walked

(24:17):
up to the building, wondering if this was the right place,
But we didn't have to wonder for too long because
immediately we saw something, something that was frankly scary, something
that confirmed both our doubts and our fears. I'm going

(24:40):
to do my best to describe it for you now.
M A wall of heat wafted in front of us.
We trudged through it. Yeah, and there on the gray

(25:05):
concrete steps leading up to the main entrance of the
building perched a gargoyle like figure sprawled across three steps.
Our gaze traveled upward feet to head plain white shoes

(25:28):
like heads, big jean shorts, black fannie pack, huge pink
T shirt, and then full stop h full zombie makeup,

(25:54):
dull gray skin resembling the flush of the undead, cuts
slashed across the face expose wounds, oozing green lizard like eyes,
darting around unpredictably, bright red hair the color of a

(26:15):
banner welcoming you to Hell, formed in a pixie cut
reminiscent of the movement of dancing flames. This woman was horrifying,
and even more horrifying was the confirmation we were in

(26:39):
the right place. As we tried to sneak past her,
her head rotated towards us, slowly, the pace of a
door knob being opened in a horn. Her beady eyes

(27:02):
stopped fluttering and for a split second, devoted themselves entirely
to us, as if to say, enter at your own risk.
Then she inhaled her cigarette and a cloud of smoke

(27:27):
entwined with her scarlet mane. Once we were inside, we
tried to get the lay of the land. We quickly
got lost. Oh to get to the auditorium to we

(27:47):
have to go outside. H okay, okay, thank you very much, awesome,
thank you. We followed the directions and rounded the corner.
We were tense. The next thing we knew, we were

(28:12):
in a brightly lit auditorium facing a grand stage. This
was not at all what we had been expecting for starters.
There were about thirty attendees scattered throughout the room, most
of them completely unremarkable, until the gargoyle from the front

(28:35):
steps darted into the room with the ferocity of a
startled bat. Looking just past her, our eyes focused on
another attendee who seemed to be how do I say this?
With her. Though they sat far apart and didn't appear
to know one another, they shared something in common, a

(28:58):
terrifying look. This person donned a brown cloak which appeared
to be dusty, as though it had been kicking around
a cave for the last few centuries millennia. Even his
face chalk white, black blood dripping from his mouth, his
arms skeletal, a permanent smile slit across his face, and

(29:26):
this really proved to be the pattern for the full audience.
For every five normal people, there would be one of
well them. Later we would come to find that this
was actually a costume contest, but in the moment we
did not know that we took our seats, breathing a

(29:51):
little sigh of relief. We were in Vegas at a
real in person event, attended by enough people to grant
us anonymity, and some of those people looked freaky. After

(30:12):
we waited for a few minutes, the lights dimmed. I
gripped Anna's arm. What the hell were we about to see?
And would beat Macro? Maybe there? I mean he would
be hard to miss, full face of makeup, white contact lenses,

(30:34):
a slithering tongue. Remember we were expecting a film festival
and now this was a live theater event. Music began
to swell. I don't know how to categorize this type
of music, but if you had a gun to my head,
I guess I would say it was a French bistro.

(30:58):
A few moments of music later, someone stepped out eating
and I welcome you to our Natalie. But monsters today
is the celebration, the celebration of blossoms. The voice sounded familiar,

(31:25):
but the person standing in front of us was a
complete stranger. It was the guy who looked completely normal.
Rectangular glasses, thin wire frame a k a. Lens craft,
grass looking glasses, average height, average build, wearing a button up.

(31:48):
Nothing really stood out, but that voice. The first I'd
like to thank you to a place of nowhere, Yeah,
where anything is possible. This is my old temper, and
this is my story where my tragedy begins. It is.

(32:12):
Here's an let Jean, I present you Park Bond of
that voice. There's something about that voice. We checked the playbill.

(32:37):
It was just some guy. The name didn't ring any
belts anyway. The completely normal looking host exited the stage,
and then the sexy horror musical had begun. The host

(33:20):
came back out, now an actor in the musical. Okay,
that's that's actually plenty. We sunk into our seats and

(33:50):
let the show envelop us. Yea. The show had all
the cornerstones of a typical musical. There was lots of music, blackouts, dancing.

(34:11):
The actor spoke with a dramatic cadence typical to a musical,
but if we were being honest, it was definitely a
bit homemade. Rulled over to a scientist is a detached observer? Yeah,

(34:40):
you know it was you know yeah. We sat through
a few scenes and then the completely normal protagonist and
host of the show came out holding a huge noose
a chorus of cloaked figures circled him. One set down

(35:02):
a chair. Instinctively, the completely normal guy and host stepped
onto the chair, and trigger warning attempted to hang himself.
Before he did, though, he opened his mouth to deliver

(35:25):
his swan song. A couple of notes in a chill
ran through our veins. This was a number that we
actually recognized. I knew about. Yeah, you can find them.

(36:01):
We knew this song. The reason why we knew it
was because we had to recreate it for an earlier episode,
because it was the exact same song that they had
played at the beginning of film festival. Here's a clip

(36:23):
of me recreating it. I was on anough pirate ship
and she was all I cared. I was on enough
pirate ship, and she was all I cared. We knew
the song because we had heard the song, and in fact,

(36:43):
we had heard this very voice sing this very song,
and that voice had belonged to none other than Beep Macromy.
So this meant that this person singing right before our
very eyes. I don't know how to say this, this

(37:09):
was Beep Macromy. This normal looking guy lens Crafter's asked
looking glasses who had welcomed us to the event. This
this was beat Macromy. That's why his voice sounded familiar.
Oh my god, it appeared like we had just driven

(37:33):
to Vegas to see Beat Macromy completely shed his lizard
skin and emerge in chrysalis as a completely average looking guy.
But it was still unclear what was costume and what

(37:54):
was real. Whoever this guy was, we had just journeyed
for hours to sit before him and watch him perform
a sexy horror musical which he was the star and
narrator of the show went on and on and on,

(38:24):
and to be frank, we started to get worried about
whether we would be able to make our dinner reservation.
All in all, there were three acts, and to be honest,
it got less and less scary, and to be even
more honest, we weren't quite sure it was ever even

(38:45):
technically sexy, except I guess the beginning number. Yeah, it's sexy,
you know, because they go oh and uh and all
that kind of stuff. Can we hear that again? Actually,
m m m, I actually really like that. Let's by jam.

(39:15):
After a few more numbers where people inexplicably kept trying
and I'm sorry, trigger warning to kill themselves. The show
ended MM, and now an ad break. The ad break

(39:55):
is over. It was time to do the thing that
we had come to do, confront beat Macromay or this
lens craft or asked looking glasses guy. Our fear level
was at an all time high. It was blinding. This

(40:20):
must be what people mean when they talk about mothers
lifting cars off their babies, bodies fueled by pure adrenaline
coursing through their veins. This was how we felt in
that moment. But we were immediately thrown into a difficult position,
one that we hadn't planned for at all. Be macromy

(40:46):
had been there in person. It was him, but as
soon as the cast took their final bow and the
curtains closed, he was con He had not planned for
this at all. We figured he would be constantly orbiting

(41:08):
around the event and we'd simply pause him on one
of these frankly routine orbits and go, hey, can we
interview you? But now it seemed like he was a
big star, and we lacked the all access credentials to
get even a lick of his attention. Then we spotted

(41:31):
someone else, someone who we recognize and knew could help us.
The second name under beat Macromy's on the roster of Misfits.
That was the staff of the film festival. We went
for it. Okay, I want to sry. We just want

(41:56):
to say we're really big fans of the festival. So yeah, Canna, yeah, yeah, yeah, Kyle, Yeah,
we went to the virtue of the virtual here. Yeah, yeah,
of course, yeah, this is great. Of course. We also
wanted to meet I don't know, do you know if
they'll come out and do you know if they'll come out? Okay, cool.

(42:21):
I don't know if he would know off the bat,
but where We actually wanted to do a really quick
interview with him for a podcast. He would be down, cool, awesome, Well,
thank you so much. Awesome, thank you so much. We
really love you. That. Oh my god. I don't know

(42:42):
what it was about what we had said, but immediately
jolted out of a seat to go grab b Macromid.
I guess he really wanted the guy to get interviewed.
We were thankful, but I did find kind of jarring.

(43:02):
This was the same mysterious guy who couldn't attend our
festival because he was away from his desk, But now
he was here and his colleague was eager to have
him interviewed. It was going our way, but seeing the
plan actually in motion completely caught a soft guard. After

(43:26):
almost no time, someone emerged from the curtains. It felt
like a fever dream. One second he was peeking from
behind the curtain, the next he was in front of us,
two ft away. So I guess here we go. Oh

(43:48):
my god, you guys, the listeners, I hope you're sitting down.
This is our conversation with be macromay. A great job.
Thank you so much, Thank you. It's a pleasure. It
was so cool. We wanted to just ask you a

(44:09):
few questions. Yeah, absolutely, and it's okay, we record, sure, okay,
so much because actually oh really yeah yeah yeah, and
we were wondering. We actually wanted to ask because we
kind of first knew you. Yes, yes, So we were
really surprised. We didn't even know when we showed up

(44:29):
to me that it would be quite frankly, you guys
would be out of out of garb. Yeah, so I
don't know. Are you Deem? Your name is? They're two different,
ended was the festival director. Fast. He's a he's a host,
he's a helpful hand behind the scenes and in front
of the scenes. Yeah, isn't uh an off prob By

(44:52):
actor worked in Hollywood for about ten years. Um, yeah,
I'm a I'm an entertainer. We could tell you thank
you really good. Yeah, it was great. It was an amazing,
totally different side of what we were expecting from you.
Thank you, I felt. I hope you enjoyed it. We
had a wonderful time putting it together. Oh my god,

(45:13):
Oh my god. Okay, look, the first question was great
because it bought us time while we adjusted to the
reality of being in his presence exactly as we had
predicted in the car. But eyes on the price. Time
for questions two and three. Let's go. Yeah. We also

(45:38):
were wondering about some of the people who yes from
the festival, as is the creator of shot festival fest
here Beat mcramad pointed to the guy who we just
talked to, and this entirely confused us because I guess

(45:58):
he had actually been the wanted to start the festival,
not Be Macromay. So Be Macromay was more of the
face of the festival, like Tyra Banks and cover Girl.
She doesn't own it. Okay, I know we're getting off track,
but so was he. Remember, we were trying to find

(46:23):
out why some of the festival staff looked frankly weird
while others looked eerily normal but okay. Also worth noting
was that here he kept referring to beat back remain
the third person, as if it wasn't him, But again

(46:45):
it was. He's the guy. He's the guy who hired
over ten years ago, about ten years ago to host
the events. Yes, even around for a while as fest
and they came together around twelve. I would say something
like that, and it has been on board with Shockfests

(47:08):
ever since. I restated our initial question, how does like
how like? We looked through the about page and there
are a lot of different people involved. How do you
how does how do people get involved? Or how are
all these people a part of best? Like? How did
you guys all meet? Or it's it's been years in

(47:29):
the making. Some of the members of our team who
are managers have been on the team way longer than
even beep us or I have. UM. Some members are
new and we do have positions where we we opened
up for jobs and of course we look volunteering. UM.
If anybody's ever interested in being a part of Fest.

(47:49):
Just email us at Film Festival at gmail dot com.
We love meeting new people. I know that I've been
unemployed for two years now. I don't care about this
job opportunity with your festival. I just want to understand
why some people on your roster look weird and some
people look normal. It was cool looking through the plotos

(48:12):
because it really seemed like there's a variety of types
of people. There is some people are people are from
some very diverse back super speaking to and then something happened.

(48:32):
He was whisked away. It was like he was on
the red carpet and we were working for entertainment tonight.
And then his pr person guided his lower back and
was like, you're needed over here. He dismissed us politely
and threw at an offer to speak to us. Later
to be frank. This offer seemed insincere, but eyes on

(48:58):
the prize. Our producers were very clear that we needed
him to sign a release form. So before he Cinderella away,
we made a Hail Mary with a second left on
the clock. We just have something for him to sign,
just so it's okay that we use the audio, and
then what if he okay if we use little bits

(49:18):
from the actual event would be okay, awesome, Yep, we
got people waiting downstairs. That's all good, that's all good.
You heard that right be back from me was big
timing us. I'm sorry, but he was acting like both

(49:40):
Madonna and her bodyguard. We left the event confused about
what had just happened. It honestly felt like he was
too busy for us, Like I kind of because of
what the fight kick had said. I was very like
I didn't want him to like he he almost made

(50:03):
me feel like I was a loser. He made me
feel like I was a loser too. That's really interesting
because he was I don't know if you noticed he
was looking away from it. He was looking beyond us. Yeah,
like he was like trying to go somewhere. And he
even the guy he even went a lot of people
to see so and he said, we can come back
to this. I mean that, I feel like he they Hollywood,

(50:24):
It does a kid't they like? Straight up Hollywood. I know.
We couldn't even get out all of our questions because
they were like show she was away. That was literally insane.
I was so crazy. We were in shock. And then
as we were walking back to Kyle's previous we realized something. Okay,

(50:49):
I think we need to decide right now if it's
over or if we're going to wait around for him
one more time, one more time, because now that we
have he signed the slip and we can use the audio,
we can literally ask him anything. Well, so what if
I were to see him again? I'd want to go.
I have a really good question. I'm so sorry, Um,
where do you get off charging filmmakers fifty dollars to

(51:10):
buy a ticket to go to their own screen or
a hundred fifty dollars systement to a festival? Um? So
kind of what's up with that? Because we already have
the provision that was right, we were so bulldozed by

(51:32):
his celebrity essence that we didn't even have a chance
to ask what had originally seemed to be the most
important question. Why did beat Macromate charges so much money
to get accepted to a festival on zoom and attended
on zoo? I wanted to go find it, but Kyle

(51:56):
had a different thought. I think it might be over.
H you think this is it? I think I just
don't know. I just don't see you getting a response
that you want. Damn, she was right. That's why she's

(52:21):
my girl. We had stood face to face with fear
itself and looked it in the eyes, and it turned
out that it was an aspiring actor who was completely normal.

(52:43):
The only thing scary about this guy is that he
didn't have time for us. Damn. That was a hell
of a way to end the season. Ye. We made
it to our dinner reservation and from there drove straight

(53:06):
to the beach to talk. Oh my god, Ah, how
are you doing. I'm so tired. I can't believe you
made us drive from Vegas to Needles to l A

(53:31):
to Malibu. Do you know how much d was a little?
I agree, I'm really sleepy. Mm hmm h m m m.
It's contagious. Yeah, you get a stretch. Romen. Are you tired? Yeah,

(53:57):
I'm tired. I've drove it. Oh okay, well, Roman didn't
drive from Las Vegas that Malibu. But it's so beautiful today.
I mean, you know what, especially after Vegas, which is

(54:17):
so dry and kind of desolate and gross, to see
this you like to stand at the edge of the
beach and be like life. And we met him. Yeah,
it's over, it's over. I can't believe it. We saw
we look, we saw him, saw him. I mean, he

(54:39):
was right there. We saw him for about two hours
to well, in that context, for about two hours, but
we saw him pretty close up. But then we also
he luckily for us, he granted us an interview. Is
that funny that he barely I can't even like barely
gave it with nothing what I expected. I honestly, there

(55:06):
are so many answers that were given to us, two
questions we didn't even know we had. But I can't
help but feel that some things are left unanswered or
definitely left unanswered. And this investigation is over, so we
we never we never got an answer as to why

(55:28):
why he decided it was okay to charge a hundred
fifty dollars for a submission pee plus another fifty on
top of that. So it's two dollars minimum to be
in this festival. Yeah, it seems like the conclusion that
we kind of came to is that, Okay, we didn't

(55:53):
get all the answers we wanted, but when we looked
Fear and the face, it was just a guy with dreams.
That's a really beautiful way of putting it. Actually, like
this whole season, this whole investigation, we were like, what

(56:17):
is fear? Why can't I look away? Why is it
so tantalizing? And then if I guess this is what
you're saying that if you really look fear up closed,
if you're standing right next to it, it's not some
mysterious and noble thing. Yeah, it's just a guy with dreams.
He doesn't have face paint on, he doesn't have white

(56:40):
contact lenses. He literally is just wearing a normal button
up shirt and he has glasses and he's just completely
I can't fear. The guy has glasses. And what's funny
is he has bad eyes. He's got a stigmatism. Probably

(57:00):
I don't know. I'm saying that because I have a stigma.
And he loves to sing. He loves to sing, he
has a song to sing. You know, it's crazy, is
I think that the It's kind of like I'm just
thinking out loud, but like the why can't I look away? Part?
Do you think that's because like I'm looking at someone
with dreams, that's what I can't look away from. Also

(57:21):
for me, not you, I look at this guy. Why
the reason why I can't look away is because it's
like I'm looking in the mirror because of the glasses. Okay,
I do think you have to give yourself a little
more credit. I don't think it's like looking in the mirror.

(57:44):
I do think that you both have glasses, and I
don't want to take that away from you. But I
look at the guy and I see myself in it
because I also have dreams. Well, you have a stigmatism,
so you do see yourself. Okay, so you're right, but
I don't know that he has a stigmatism. Is but
prob he doesn't drive on the freeway too. He probably
can't drive it. No, I think he does drive at night.

(58:04):
He had, he would have to drive in the freeway.
He's always driving a Vegas Okay. True, so maybe, but
maybe he does have a stigmatism. But he overcame his fear,
and in that way, he's kind of he's both of us.
He's both of us, and I guess he's all of us. Well,
congratulations on a great season. Congratulations over here shaking my hand.

(58:27):
I'm gonna shake your hand and look at the ocean.
We're open. I really wish you could have seen the
musical because it was really kind of was. There's something
for everyone. There's something to see you next season. We'll

(58:48):
be back before you know it. In the meantime, feel
free to keep in touch, send us your mysteries. Who
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Email us at truth Hounds eight eight nine at gmail
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