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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Truth Hounds, a production of My Heart Radio.
I'm Anna and I've been unemployed for two years now,
so I really have nothing going on. And I'm Kyle
and in middle school I received the award most Enthusiastic
to Learn. So that makes me pretty special. And that
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is what makes us the perfect investigative duo. We are
two friends who love each other very much. But will
we love even more? Is getting to the bottom of mysteries?
All mysteries, short but small mysteries. Specifically, trust me, No
mystery is too small. No, no, no, Why don't you
trust me when I tell you we are ready to
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sniff around? We are They're the Truth Hounds. Helloa, hey, Kyle,
who is this? I'm right behind you. I'm just kidding.
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It's Anne. Are you okay? Are you okay? Oh? Hi?
Hi um. I'm really glad I caught you because we
actually need to talk. I'll be right there. Hi. Hi,
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are you good. It's so nice to see you, so
good to see you. Oh my god, I can't believe
that we were where we were skydiving. I know the
last time I saw you, we were in the sky.
We were literally this guy. But now not only are
we on land, but we're also at sea, well not
at sea, but at the ocean. Yeah, it feels so
good to be back on land. I know, I mean
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to see this. I feel like you could just breathe,
you know. Yeah, it feels good to sort of be
on land and I feel like I can breathe again.
You look good. Thank you. Honestly, I feel like that experience,
it was like it brought up a lot of interesting feelings.
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First and foremost, it brought up a lot of fear.
I know, you know what I actually was going to
ask you because I feel like you're a bit of
a fear junkie, like thrill seeker. Yeah, yeah, I actually
wanted to know. We've never had a direct conversation about this,
but what what scares you? For me, my biggest fear
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has to be like a rat, A rat, like a
like a rodent, A rodent? Yes, Because when I was
growing up, Um, once time we opened the toilet, the
lid was on and there was a dead rat who
had climbed through the pipes. What are you saying to me?
And climbed out of the toilet and then but couldn't
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get out because the toilet lid was on. So I honestly,
my fear is rats. You're that's why. Honestly, if you
give it come to my house, which I do, you'll
notice the toilet limit is closed. That's right, Oh my god,
it is always closed. Okay, So what scares you? Does
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that scare you? I mean, it is scary, but at
least with a rodent, I know what I'm looking at. Yeah,
I can see why you're afraid of it, but at
least you're like, Okay, that's the face, that's the tail,
that's where it's facing. That's where it's going to me
a cock roach. I don't know what I'm looking at.
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I don't know if that's its face. I don't know
if that's its side. I have no idea what I'm
looking at. So I'm going, what am I looking at? Here?
And I can't look away because I get in my
head and I'm like, I gotta know what side of
the roach that is. That's an interesting part of fear
that like, sometimes we're really afraid of something, but we're
so intrigued by it that we can see you to
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stare at it even though we're being were freaked out,
except because we want to understand, Like what am I?
What is that? Yes? You know what's really funny. The
reason why I actually brought you here to talk is
because I saw a website. It's so funny. It's exactly this, Huh.
I saw a website that is mortifying and Kyle, I
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literally cannot look away and I need to show you. Okay,
should we go and look check it out? Let's go
check it out? Okay, let's go. Episode two, Anna's website.
So we came up with a plan. I would sit
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down with Kyle and show her this website that I
had found. It wasn't just any website. It was the
website for a scary and intriguing for film festival. It
didn't seem like much of a plan, to be honest,
but Anna did say it was intriguing and scary, so
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I guess it was a start. I went over to
Kyle's house to show her this festival's website. Wow, I
wish you guys could hear the name of the festival.
It's good, but we can't say it. I mean, I
love you guys, the listeners, but I'm not trying to
get sued. Just Google, Okay, let me go, hold on
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that sounds scary. It was. Trust me, it's honestly better
that you don't know. Uh, film festival. Okay, here it is, Okay,
there we go. Oh my, what is that? So wait?
What is that? Oh it's just like a film can
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and it says, admit on, let me be your eyes.
What I saw was a website dedicated to not just
a horror film festival, but horror in general. The background
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black blacker than the night itself. Lightning bolts darting out
of the top left corner slashing the blackness with violence.
Rusted wheels and mechanisms crudely lined the right hand border.
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The website basically said beware and fuck you. The website
was cool. It introduced the festival and urged its the
sitters to submit an original, cutting edge short feature or
screenplay to participate, and it even featured a little video
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giving its visitors a taste of the madness. Oh should
we play this? Oh? Is it in New York? That
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was times Square wasn't actually prong where this was actually
a great point. The video did not make it clear
where the festival would be taking place and that that
would prove to be a big deal. But that's a
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story for another time. That's Times Square. That is Times Square.
Oh my god, did you see that man climbing out
of the hallway? Yes, okay, where is this? I don't know.
Maybe let's go to about us about us. So we
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headed to the about us page, which actually was the
main reason I had brought Kyle to the website. There
was someone that I wanted Kyle to meet. Disclaimer The
next part and some of the later descriptive parts of
this episode might sound a little bit weird. That's because
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for legal reasons, we had to go back and alter
the original audio, removing any identifying details from the website.
We did our best to preserve the spirit of the
original text. Kay and I too close to the subject,
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so we had our editor, Adam. It was basically a
hacker superstar take care of it. Okay, The optimum indie
film festival happening made outside of the very box that
has film festivals, and that seeks to create the tip
top amount of pizzazz, enticement and intercommunal participation for the
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cinema creator and cinema lever um. So and actually a
submission does the submission universe of the previously unfamiliar wa
so wait to see that. A submission to do is
a submission to the universe of the previously unfamiliar. This
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is failed to remember other cinema happenings because you happened
upon the one that is inevitable. Wow, okay, and then
there cough these name really on it. That was all amazing,
but still not the reason why I brought Kyle to
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this website. I finally got to it. Okay, this is
why I wanted you to see this website. Because the
festival director's name is Go ahead and say it. Okay,
I really wish you guys could hear this name. Trust me,
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it's good, but we cannot share the name with you.
We do want to give you a little taste of
what the name invokes. So we'll just call him David
Scary Backromy. No, why are you signing because you're using
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a name that is too close to his real name Acromy. Yes,
that's too close. We have to beat, But why don't
we just use David Scary. Wait, so if it's beeped,
then it's going to be beat macromy. Yes, but David's
scary as well. Can we just call him beat Macromy
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Then it's kind of cute. I like it. Whatever. Now,
when you hear us refer to this really intriguing figure,
we will be using the name Beep Macromy. Okay, when
he comes from the Shepherd the shattering of the cinematic
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happening industry by setting a blaze the original maps and
drafting new ones, which are avant garde to say the least.
Why immediately understood why Anna had brought me to this website.
Beep Macromy, the director of the festival, looked terrifying. His
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bio photo wasn't a normal photo, like what you'd hang
on a wall. No, it was twisted. Literally, it was
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like someone took a regular photo but then tilted it
about forty five degrees on its side. The lighting scary,
dark blues, even darker greens. A doll sitting in the
corner for no reason. I mean, there wasn't even a
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kid to play with it. Beep himself was wearing a
full face of makeup, white contact lenses blocking out his eyes. Yeh,
black lips curled into a devilish smile, as if to say,
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I dare you to submit to this festival. I'm a psychopath.
You know that feeling when you look at something horrifying,
but you just can't look away. That was exactly how
I felt looking at beat Macromy's photo. Now Kyle was
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getting it. And by the way, David scary enough Beat Macromy,
we agreed, okay, Beep Macromy, Hey, no attitude this season, Okay, fine,
or whatever it's worth. Beep Macromy. Didn't run this festival alone.
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There was a whole team of people, and to be
honest with you, guys, that is what drew me into
the festival in the first place. You see on the
about us page. Beep Macrims freaky little portrait was followed
by a series of other portraits, which honestly got progressively
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less scary. Okay, but then, okay, the next guy's name
is Then we just got his coordinated. She's holding up
a metal of demons. Yeah, this guy just looks cool.
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This guy, okay, why but why does this picture look
like it's Okay, that's actually the scariest picture of all,
because just looks like a guy in his house. He
took his picture by accident, without his shirt. Until we
got to the final staff member, an intern. I don't
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know quite how to say this, but she looked normal,
not a single tattoo in sight, not a lick of
green hair dye. By comparison to the others, she looked
like a catfish. It was almost like they needed to
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round out their staff photos, but ran out of people
they knew personally, like the words regular woman into Google
image search and found her picture. The point was there
was something here, something intriguing about this world. The sick
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vision of this festival, the nomadic nature of not even
having a physical location for it, the twisted cast of characters,
the woman who looked eerily normal and presiding over them all,
the ultimately deranged puppet master himself deep macromy This was it.
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This was the investigation. We had to get to the
bottom of whatever this is? So Episode two? What is fear?
And why can't I look away? I know things are
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getting really good, but we have to take a break
for some ads, and the ad break is over back
to it. What can we do to an investigate this
when we're not even sure what the this that we're
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trying to investigate is. I can barely say this sentence.
How do you start at the bottom of something that
grows sideways not up? Am I going crazy? Kyle? You
are unraveling. We need to give you a little string
to hang on too, so that you don't get completely
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lost in the forest of your thoughts. Wait, you're talking
crazy too. This website it was really powerful. But anyway,
I actually had an idea, but I at first needed
to catch Kyle up on the website and make sure
she was seeing what I was seeing. And clearly she
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was seeing what I was seeing, So it was time
to share my idea. Remember, at its core, this was
a festival and it took submissions. I think we should
make a movie to submit to this festival. We get
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to meet Oh my god, Oh my god, look at him.
Sure this was a way to get closer to this
world and meet the man behind the madness. But honestly,
I didn't know if I wanted to meet him. I mean, you, guys, listeners,
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you have to trust me. Had white contact lenses and
look like he wanted to kill me. Who does that?
Anna was proposing that we make a horror shot film
to submit to this horror film festival. Infiltrate beat mcarmy's world,
meet him up close and see what the hell was
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going on with him? M hm. It was a whip
smart plan. But she forgot one key detail. We knew
nothing about making a horror short film, or a regular
short film, or any length film for that matter, short, long, sideways, reverse, nothing, zilch.
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My gosh, I just can god, I don't even know
how we would go about making a horror thing. And
then Anna got really serious. I guess because she's a
movie lover. Filmmaking is obviously a kind of big endeavors.
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But I really think that with our unique perspectives and
kind of how much we think about the world and
how much you love get scared, um, I think between
that we definitely have a great chance. Okay, maybe we
hadn't suckled at the teet of academia. You no, let
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me say this. Maybe we didn't fit into the cookie
cutter definition of n y U film grads. Maybe we
didn't have fancy degrees, maybe we weren't textbook. But here's
what we did have. Our unique perspectives, how much we
thought about the world, file's love of scares and frights,
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plus one other thing we had heart. I was certain
we could pull it off. So he came up with
a plan. We would make a horror short film to
submit to this film festival to meet beat Back Me
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and see what the hell was going on there. We
immediately encountered a roadblock. Looking around the website some more,
we saw that to submit a horror short film would
cost us one hundred fifty dollars, And the thing about
us was that we didn't have a hundred fifty dollars. Kyle,
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I totally hear you, especially because we don't have a
hundred fifty dollars. But that's just filmmaking. You gotta pay
to play. Anyway, we'll figure all that out later. Let's
just not even think about it right now. Let's just
get to the good stuff. Let's make a horror short film,
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all right, Anna, But we're going to have to find
a hundred fifty dollars somewhere at some point. Plus what
about the budget of the movie. Doesn't that cost a
lot of money? Where are we going to get that? Kyle,
chill out? Okay, I just do think this will come
up at some point. But anyway, so first step, we
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would need to come up with what the horror short
would be about. Me, Kyle, I love a good scare,
you know, like when a man goes to open his door,
but then we see that someone is right behind him
walking backward really fast, or like when a man goes
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to open his door again a second time, but then
we see that someone else is right behind him, and
it's a different man from the guy before, and also
the man opening the door, and this new man is
actually so tall that his head kind of touches the
sea ceiling. It doesn't hit the ceiling because then you
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would have to crouch, which is actually not scary at all.
And I would just be like, oh, you must be uncomfortable,
poor guy, and me Anna, I like any movie with
a social message, you know, the kind of movie where
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a big city woman with curly hair comes into a
small town with her blazer and she goes into a
factory and she's like, when's your lunch break, and the
factory people are like, you haven't had lunch since the sixties,
and she's like, well, let's do something about that. And
she gets into her prius, but someone has actually spray
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painted fuck war on the side of the door, and
then the mayor has cancer. Anyway, you guys, the listeners,
you get it, you know, something like that. So clearly
we had a lot of ideas, but we really weren't
sure how they were all going to fit together. I mean,
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we weren't writers, and that worried me because if we
were going to get into this festival and meet beat Macromay,
we needed to make something really good. So, Kyle, how
about this? Maybe for now we put aside, you know,
the hundred fifty dollar submission fee, the details about what
the horror short film was about, and instead we find
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someone who could just you know, put together everything for us,
a leader of some kind, you know, like a director.
So we came up with a new plan. We would
find a director to make the horror short film plore us.
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Plus they needed to write it, and let's be on,
they should also fund ith. I hate to be a scrub,
but you gotta ask for what you need, and hey,
you know what, you should also be cool. That's why
we decided to talk to Lizzie. Lizzie was a friend
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of a friends. Well actually I just I follow her
on Instagram, but she could be a friend anyway. She
looked really cool and I knew that she had directed
some stuff. Plus I was pretty sure that she wrote
some stuff. Plus she was gorgeous bingo. Anyway, we sent
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her d M and set up a time to talk
via zoom. Good to good to meet guys. UM, so
kind of just to launch right into it. Um, So
we are looking for a director, um for a horror
short film. Cool. Yeah, that's kind of job. Yeah. We
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basically found this film festival called the Film Festival, which
is like a prominent horror film festival. No, I've never
heard of the festival. Huh. We were off to a
little bit of a weird start because Lizzie didn't know
the festival, but that didn't deter us. We took the
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opportunity to get to know her kind of Can you
talk about your background? Yeah? Sure, I'm a director screenwriter,
been working in the industry for about ten years. You know.
I've had short films that have gone to pretty prominent
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smuls Sunday and South By. Um. I don't really know
what those are, but it sounded pretty cool. I was
starting to think she was the perfect person for the job.
I have a I have a television show that was
on Showtime last year and produced whoa Anna. Did you
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hear that I love TV? Yeah? I heard that. Sounds
great to me. This was going really well. Next we
let her know about our situation. Do you have no
budget at all. Yeah, so that's that is kind of yeah,
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that's a great thing to bring up. Um, we have
not no budget, yeah at all. So and then also
what's kind of important is that we yeah, we really
can't pay you, um actually anything. Yeah. Lizzie really took
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her time responding. Yeah, it seemed like she was having
a little brain far you right, Well, I don't know
you guys, um so that you know, that feels like
a little I guess predatory. I don't, Um, it's a
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little bit so I'm sorry. I just need to understand,
like you don't are you planning on doing like a
kickstarter or something like that is or you just like
how are you gonna you know, you know, equipment, like
there's you know obviously things cost money. Well we were
hoping that that's kind of your you know, like the
director that's like their things, so that that's what they
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come in. We kind of come in with as the
talent um, the idea and the ideas. Um. Yeah, it's
just you don't really have an idea, right, So I'm sorry,
I'm just trying to catch up, like get the full picture.
There's a social message, there's a social message there's just fear,
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and there's fear, and then we are going to submit
it to this especials. Okay, guys, let's just cut to
the chase. It was a big note from her. Yeah,
it seemed like this person, Lizzie just wasn't down to write, direct,
and fund our horror short film. I know we just
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met her, but she really made us feel bad. I mean,
she used the word predatory and people have been canceled
for less. Don't even go there. You know how I
feel about cancel culture. I do know that we set
our goodbyes. I wish you the best of luck. Okay, well,
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thank you so much. Maybe it wouldn't work out with Lizzie,
but she did bring up a great point. We would
need to raise some money at least to cover the
expense of getting into the festival. I mean it was
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a hundred fifty dollars. Lizzie brought up Kickstarter, and that
made total sense. As far as I knew, it was
pretty common for young creatives to crowdfund their project. Hell,
Zach Braft did it to make that awesome follow up
to the Garden State. I mean, I know, I donated
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thousands of dollars to it. I'm just one person. Yeah,
a little bit of money would be great, and we
didn't need a lot. We just wanted to raise enough
money to cover the submission fee, which again was a
hundred fifty dollars. Didn't we need any else? M Oh,
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I know, what about food right now? No, for the
day of the shoot. Oh, that's an idea. Yeah, I
just figured we might get hungry. How about we just
get pizza? But anna, you know I don't eat pizza.
Oh that's right, Well, no worries. We'll just fundraise a
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little more, and that way we can also get salad
for those of us who don't eat pizza. Thank you.
And hey, if we use Indiegogo instead of Kickstarter, even
if we don't reach our goal, we'll still get to
keep the cash. You're a genius. So that pretty much
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settled the financial aspect of our problems. And now an
ad break. The ad break is over. Now back to
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all this finding a director drama. I realized that I
actually did know someone. He had directed some stuff before,
and he would definitely work for free. Oh, he sounds perfect.
We arranged a time to meet with my friend Clay.
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You want to do a spooky movie. Is that what
you're what I'm hearing? He already sounded awesome, but we
had learned the hard way with Lizzie that it was
very important to be upfront about your shortcomings and limitations. Yeah,
we don't have a script or anything. I think we
might hire some writers to do it, but we're thinking
that you would probably play the people. We're going to
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do an Indigo Go campaign to raise the money to
submit to this festival, and so that's to submit the
film to get pizza and solad optional. Okay, cool. This
meeting was going a lot better than the last one.
Play really seemed to get what we were looking for.
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It was time to get to the good stuff, the things.
We were very clear on our hopes and dreams for
the short. It just has to be as spooky as
possible and scares in ways that you've never seen before,
you know it. I think I see a lot of
horror movies and I really like it when the director
shows me something that I've never like, I've never seen
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that like looks crazy woman's face before and that really scared.
So we're looking yeah, for a hybrid of I've never
seen a woman's face quite so scary and then just
to kind of really just you know, take it home.
You know it's going, it's going, it's gone, social social message.
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I don't know how many times I can say this,
but this guy, Clay was awesome. He seemed perfect for
the job. Last he was willing to work for free. Well, Jay,
I'm really excited about this. We can make something really
sick and really spooky that also has um a social
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commentary that's for the good of everyone. I was over
the moon with this guy. Before we ended the call,
I pitched one last minute idea for a social message
and it could be really just like it could be
the military drive. I don't really have a specific cause
in mind. It could be like let's not draft our boy. Yeah,
let's not get caught up in that. It could be
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I think we should really get our get our brains
and just mainly think about the spooks. Maybe, like let's
think about the spookies and then I just would love
you know. Later we taxon we go and don't you know,
don't drive without a seatbelt or whatever. We said goodbye
to our new director. Well, okay, let's make some one.
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That's all I have to say. We still needed to
raise money to cover the submission fee and pay for
the pizza and salad for the day of the shoot.
So we put together our indie go go campaign. Arguably
the most important part of an indigo go campaign is
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an enticing video. This is it. This is us telling
the world why they should give us money. We got
together and made a video. Take one, Hi, start, start over.
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Take two. Hi. My name is Answer Regina and my
name is Kyle Azzano. Okay, it's started it. Take three, Hi. God,
acting was hard. Once we had finished the video, we
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filled out all the boring stuff. We're not going to
regale you with the details, but you know, stuff like
why you should give us the money, where the money
is going to, the perks, whatever. We waited a few
days to launch the campaign. We wanted to make sure
that it had eyes on it. I had heard somewhere
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that it was bad to post social media stuff on
the weekends, just in case people were, you know, at
the beach. So a few days later I gave Anna
a call. I know you're driving, but I just wanted
to virtually press the launch button with you for indigoger campaign.
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I mean, I just I just can't believe I'm not
they aren't oppressive with you. But yeah, okay, let's do
a little countdown together. Okay, let's do one from one, five, five, four, three. Wait,
you're out of sake, Okay, I'm okay. Okay, on account
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of three, will start an one? Oh no fun one
f two I'm here, okay, three one Okay, I'm the startup. Okay.
After we say three, s what Okay, I'm clicking it.
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You're clicking yet there it was, we were live. I
We are seeking your help today because we want to
make a short film. I have loved movies ever since
I can remember, and I have loved horror movies ever
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since I could remember. So this project, well, it just
really means a lot to us. So let's break it down.
The submission for this festival. It's a really good festival.
So it costs a lot to get in and pizza
and salad on the day of the shoe. You know,
we gotta eat. And for awesome camera guy DP director.
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It's all the same guy. He's awesome. You might be wondering, well,
what's in it for me as a contributor. Wow, if
you give us five dollars, we will give you a
shout out on our podcast Instagram for twenty We'll leave
you a freaky voicemail message, thank you so much for
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watching our video and please contribute to our Indigo Go.
The next part even caught us off guard. Sometimes they
can feel like the world doesn't give a funk about you.
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You're just a nobody, a speck of dust, just a
faceless body in a lineup of nobody's Kyle, are you okay? No, No,
I'm actually trying to say something positive. Okay, you just
scared me there. What I'm trying to say is that
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sometimes it's hard to remember that you're not alone. In fact,
there's a whole big world out there of people who
are willing to give you money. What I'm trying to
say is that we met our Indi Go Go goal
within six hours, and then we went over our goal.
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You see, we only really needed two fifty dollars to
cover the submission fee plus the pizza and salad. Well,
guess what, instead we made five hundred and nine dollars.
Now we had enough money for everything, and then some
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you know what, maybe we could even pay the director
like fifty bucks or something like that. This extra three
was the start of something big. Sure, there was a
lot of stuff that we didn't have figured out yet, like,
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for example, the script, but it didn't matter. We had
all the money in the world, and meeting Beat back
from me didn't even seem like just a possibility. It
was going to happen soon we headed to the beach
to talk. I thank so much for meeting me again.
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I mean, but it really is beautiful tonight. You know. Okay,
obviously we have a director now and we have money now,
but you know this isn't over. Yeah, it feels like
I mean, we just kind of decided what we're investigating
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here and what we're trying to do, and it doesn't
seem like something that we can take care of in
an episode, not at all. I mean, this is we
haven't even scratched the surface. And then I guess I'm
glad that we're here to talk because I think that
if we're gonna meet beat macromay, it's going to take
quite a few episod zodes. I think I would agree.
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But is there a way you could say that it's
like sounds like a little bit more epic or something,
versus saying like there's gonna be more episodes. Just you
don't like that it's quite a few episodes. Yeah, I
just feel like there's a way of making it kind
of sound a little bit more like a little more
like like we're about to go on an epic journey. Okay, stars, Okay,
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I can do that. Okay. So okay, So we're going
to meet beat Macrobon and it's going to take a lot.
But Kyle, look at me. Yes, can you look at me.
I'm looking at you, Kyle, as you're looking at me.
I'm here to tell you you're standing on the precipice
of something huge. It's a journey, and we don't know
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where it will take us. We don't even know where
the festival is, so it could be far. This might
require travel. But I promise you, Kyle, I promise you,
we will get there no matter what it takes, blood, sweat, tears.
He might be weird. That's he might be weird. Yes,
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In fact, if I were a gambler, I would say
he probably gets he kind of weird, but we will
meet him. Is that good? Yeah? Okay, Well I just
think yeah, I think that's better. So this isn't the end. Wow, Okay,
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we should go back Pullman. Do you want to go home? Yeah,
let's go home him to be continued next time on
Truthhounds Into your living room night. It turns out what
we've just seen is a hormonem I mean, it's amazing,
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This is amazing. I don't. I mean, it's just it's perfect.
We needed to be with the acting community. We would
make a pilgrimage to the heart of Hollywood, the Hollywood
blok of fame. Is this some twisted house of mirrors? Yeah?
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I think Lacksyde specifically. I was thinking, what if we
needed that he kills us? Is this starting to feel
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