June 29, 2021 • 34 mins
In the third episode of Truth Hounds, Anna and Kyle continue to investigate mean people. They gear up to face a specific mean person, nominated by a listener. Anna does her best to get Kyle in the right mental headspace… but will this encounter be too much?
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Edited by Adam Wand @Adam_Wand.
Produced by Anna Hossnieh & Miles Gray.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Truth Hounds, a production of I Heart Radio.
I'm Anna and I've been unemployed for about a year now,
so I really have nothing going on. And I'm Kyle.
In middle school, I received the award most Enthusiastic to Learn,
So that makes me pretty special. And that is what
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makes us the perfect investigative duo. We are two friends
who love each other very much, but what we love
even more is getting to the bottom of mysteries, all mysteries.
Sure that small mysteries, specifically, trust me, No mystery is
too small? No, no, no, Why don't you trust me
when I tell you we are ready to sniff around?
(00:45):
We are the truth Hound O. M. Hello, Hey Kyle,
yere Hey it's it's Anna. Oh hey hey, Um, are
you busy right now? Oh? Well, I just put something
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in the oven? But what's up? Um? We need to talk.
I'll be right there. Thank you so much for meeting
me here. Yeah, I got my oil change, so I
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made the drive. It's nice and look, it's just it's
so beautiful. It really was beautiful. Uh So is this
the same investigation or a different one? No, it's the
same one. It's we're still asking why people are mean. Anyway,
I brought you here because I wanted to recap what
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happened last week. So if you remember, last week, we
interviewed a celebrity, Karen kill Gareth about why she's mean.
It's a truth that I um feel they need to
be accountable for. Then we put out a call to action.
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We asked people to name the meanest person that they
know in their life. I have never been more. I
don't I don't know how to say that they like
insult you personally. It's coming back to me now, right,
and then don't forget that. We also did a kind
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of right along with the meanest person I know, megan
to kind of teach you how to be mean. But
that doesn't affect me. All I care about his mind
get in my nuts. Oh and let's not forget you
revealed that you used to be me. I used, why
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how are you processing that? With time? Well? Should we
get back into it? I think? So Episode three, Why
are Some People Mean? Part two? The investigation was back on.
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We were going to go to the yogurt shop where
Kyle would finally face this alleged mean person. But then
something occurred to me. Would she know what to say?
What if I got there and it was scary. What
if I stuttered? Anna? You know me, I clam up, Kyle,
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It's okay, you just get a little nervous. I wish
that I had some words written out for me, so
I knew what to say, Like a script the new plan,
Hi are successful Hollywood screenwriters to write a full proof
script for Kyle to follow at the yogurt shop. We
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started to think about the kind of dialogue we liked. Me, Kyle,
I like broad comedy, you know, the type of movie
where someone farts so loud that someone on the other
side of the world falls down, And me, Anna, I
like kind of more cerebral TV shows, you know, the
ones that two weeks later you're just in the shower
and it occurs to you. Huh, that's what that woman's
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letter meant. These are shows that are smaller budgets, but
they have less creative input from the network exacts, you know,
your shows with your bush Emis or Giovanni Ribisi's. There
were no two ways about that. We knew who we
had to call. Hello, Hi, Chloe, Hey, and and John?
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Is this a this is a conference call? Or well
we're in the same place. Actually, we lived together, so
we're in the We're on the same song. They were
Chloe and Josh and they were an unstoppable writing duo
who were in love with each other and scriptwriting. Just
for the record, Um, Chloe, you worked on Sneaky Pete
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as a as a writer, right? I was the writer's assistant. Yeah,
but I started as the writer's p A and worked
my way up to writer's assistant. So she's great in
a room. She she really. I think they just saw
her and Azzle talk have muzzle and then wait and
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then Josh, you wrote a Jerry O'Connell vehicle. Is that correct? Oh? Yeah,
I co wrote a Jerry O'Connell vehicle. Actually, I was
one of the writers, one of a one of a
few writers, but I was. I was one of the writers. Yes, yeah, awesome, Yeah,
that's really cool. Kyle had sent them an email the
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day before asking them to write a script dialogue for
her to use while interacting with this mean yogurt person.
We told them this isn't your usual Hollywood writing gig,
but take it seriously, no messing around. So, um, would
you guys be willing to do do that for us? Yeah? Yeah,
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I think we could write for you guys be thinking
I'm not sure? Sure, thank you. Now, this next part
is a bit unprofessional. I mean we're not the type
to lose our cool around famous people. Remember last week
when we interviewed known celebrity Karen kill Gareth. We were
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super cool about that. But it's like, Okay, if you
saw Kevin Costner at the grocery store, are you not
going to say I loved you in the movie Tim Cup?
That's what I thought. We asked them what it was
like to work with Sneaky and Jerry O'Connell. They were
They were super cool, really easy to work with, great day,
really professional. Um. You know, it's a surprised they both
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have worked for many years because I think they bring
that to sort of everything they do. Wow, celebrities are
just like us. Thanks so thanks much for doing this.
We'll talculator, we'll get into this script and we can
be in touch about that. Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, we'll definitely.
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They work around the clock, these guys. We got the
script the next morning. Now we were properly armed and
ready to go to the yogurt shop to face the meno, well,
the alleged mino. We printed it out, unlocked Kyle's prius,
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got in, put the key in the ignition, and started
the engine room room. But then we realized something in
the original tip about the mean yogurt person. Our helpful
tipster said all the details we needed except the time
he usually goes to get froo. I mean, if we
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just went there at a random time, that would not
be scientific. The mean person might not even be there.
So we said, let's forget about the room room for
a second. We took the keys out of the ignition,
grabbed our script, locked the prius, and walked back to
my house to regroup. We sat down on Kyle's newly
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purchased adult couch and we listened to our lead. Because amazing,
it's a it's a great yogurt. That's the problem is
that it's such good yogurt. It's right down the street
for my favorite sushi place. So bingo, the tipster said
it was down the street from his favorite sushi place.
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From that, we intuited that he probably went after he
got sushi. We would just wait until it was a
reasonable time to get sushi and go after that. But
then something happened. Kyle picked up her copy of the
script started walking towards the front door and started unlocking
her prius before even putting her shoes on. I asked
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her what the hell she was doing. I said to Anna,
don't you dare talk to me that way? We are
getting sushi. I countered to Kyle for eating sushi at
one pm? What are you on psychedelics? I explained to
Anna that this was the perfect time to get sushi.
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One pm. The lunch rashes over. The fish just got
dropped off by the fish guy. What else would you want?
I didn't want to argue with Kyle, but between us girls,
I thought she was out of her Damn Gord. Everyone
knows that the perfect time to get sushi is at
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nine pm. Now I'm p m. The conversations are flowing, Plus,
you feel like you're in Europe. Show Bill. If you
remember in the last episode Kyle was teaching me Italian, Well,
guess what it's been going? Really well? Our opinions were
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as different as night and day, and we were just
two people. This made it complicated. If our opinions were
so different, then who knew what our helpful tipster was
talking about? For all we knew he could be getting
sushi at six am. It was anyone's guess. We knew
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there was only one way to handle this problem. We
put out an immediate call to action on our beloved
social media platform Instagram. Kyle made another really cool graphic.
It was a picture of two really attractive people sharing
a quoi smile over a bound of tray of sushi.
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Underneath it said what time do you and your loved
ones typically get sushi? To clarify, we added is it
around two p m? Or is it more like seven pm?
We told people it was important we heard from them.
The calls came flooding in. Kyle put her script back
down and we started crunching the numbers. But we didn't
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only crunch numbers, Anna, We also learned a lot. All
sorts of different people got sushi at all sorts of
different hours for different reasons. Even Anna's mom responded, and
she's from Russia, no offense. What's crazy to me is,
first of all, I didn't even know that my mom
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eats sushi, Like that's news me. And then I'm just like,
I find it kind of heartwarming that she grip of communism.
It was actually really cool. It seemed like everyone was
eating sushi. Have you ever seen like an old movie
in the nineties and they're like, let's go get sushi,
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and then the guy's like, that's weird. Oh that fish thing. Yes,
that's right, and we look where we are. It kind
of shows you anything in petty we can progress. Absolutely,
we can beat anything. Okay, you're right. We did learn
a lot, but then we got back to crunching numbers
in analyzing data. Plus nineteen, Oh god, what's nineteen? Another nineteen?
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I'm just getting scared as a number because I don't
want to find you know. Okay, it's okay plus nineteen
again again, okay, plus nineteen again. Sixty seven that average time.
I would say that that means that's the truth. That's
the truth. It's six thirty seven is the time to
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go get sushi. Bingo. We had our time. We waited
around for five hours. We got hungry, which was good
because that meant we would actually go get sushi before
getting fro yo. I know, things are getting really good,
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but we have to take a break for some ads.
And the ad break is over. We would walk a
mile in our tipsters shoes, because that's what good investigators do.
We picked up both of our scripts, put our shoes on.
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Lock the door behind us unlocked, Kyle's prius got in,
put the keys in the ignition room room, and off
we went to get sushi. Then our bellies bursting with unagi.
We would confront the mean yoguru person. If you're sensitive
to sounds, you might want to turn this next part
down a little bit, you see, I'm meaning sushi and
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my mouth is full, or if you're into this kind
of thing, blasted sister. But most places I think have
had a trouble transitioning. Yeah, just take out and is
really you should usually eat it. But honestly, this is
not that bad in the car. It's not about in
the car. Also, we right after we ordered, we we
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drove up to a spot and then we sat down
to eat sushi. So it was kind of I mean,
it's a little bit like being served, you know, anyway
you get it. Because the big confrontation was right around
the corner, we tried to predict just what kind of
mean this yogurt person was going to be. Kyle went, first,
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it's gonna be like kind of coded mean where it's
like it's like a spicy something of spicy food that like,
doesn't taste hot at first, but then as you as
you go it's not. It sneaks up by and you're like,
well there's and you go, there's the heat. There's the
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heat exactly, there's the heat. Yeah, yeah, I mean I'm
really curious. Obviously everybody you think could soon to be like, okay,
you come in to my story, right, And then I'm
on the phone and I'm like, yeah, I would be, um,
i'd be willing to close the shop a little earlier
today since no one important is here. I know she
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was just speaking in hypotheticals, but her acting was amazing.
That really hurt. Oh yeah, I would have to say something, yeah,
like I'm a person exactly, I don't think you should
actually close your shop. Because I'm standing right here. There's
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still a little bit of food, so I save it,
save it, I save it and just put in the
bat and just like that, we were on our way.
Well not so quick, Kyle, did you memorize the script? Yeah,
that's what I thought. On the way to the froyo shop,
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I helped Kyle run her lines. Do you make it
or do I make it? I'm just checking it. Do
you make it? Or do I make it exactly. That's
really good. I think you go. What you did just
now was perfect. Do you make your do? Do you
make it? Or do? I mean like you're almost like
I know the answer, but I forgot. Yeah. What helps
me is to save that line and kind of squint like,
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do you make it or do I make it? Yeah? Exactly.
It gives you something, you grounds you a little bit.
You know, you make it? Or do I make it?
I almost forgot. It's like, wait, I was doing my
best to direct Kyle, acting as a kind of Cassavettes
of the duo. But I needed to do more. I
needed to get mean. I needed to become the Maurice
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pilav of the duo. What you're about to hear, it's
my putting Kyle through the ringer. You're going to horror?
Do you think to me, I'm preparing you for the word. Hey, Hey, okay,
I'm gonna block you out. Okay, just block me out.
I'm not even here. Hello, Hi, I'm so excited to
get some yogurt. I've never cared what do you recommend?
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What's popular? I don't care about my job. Can you
swirl any too flavors together? Or didn't have to be
side by side. You can swirl what I can say,
you can. These are all the topics you have. Can
you make any of them? You can make whatever you want.
I truly don't care about you. Do you do it?
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Or do do you make it? Or do I make it?
I make it because that's my job. Cool. Does Jerry
O'Connell come here? No he doesn't. Actually, well, not to
be a sneaky pee. But do you guys have tasts? Foods? No?
Helps me eat? So we did it? So good? Whoa
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Chloe and Josh would be in an excellent script? Amazing.
Now that my lines were memorized and I had endured
Anna's brutal acting boot camp, I was prepared for anything
that was about to come my way. Okay, so it's
in half a mile on the right hand side. Okay, Wow,
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just like that we were at the Foyo shop. Well
not just like that again, I mean, think about what
it took to get here. We interviewed Karen. We asked
people to recommend the meanest person they could think of.
We did a ride along with Megan. We learned about capitalism,
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We hired Hollywood writers, We learned what time people get sushi.
It was a long journey to get here, and now
we were finally on our way to confront the very
essence of what it meant to be mean. Nothing could
stop us. Well, actually that's not exactly true. The law
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could stop us. And if you remember, there's one thing
I love more than my dog, it's the law. You see,
we really did go to the froyo shop, we promise,
but for legal reasons, we can't really play the audio
for you. Well, in a way we can, but you're
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not gonna like it. Have a listen and do you
make it or okay, okay, See, we didn't want to
put you through that. It's unlistenable. We tried to work
around it, and we do have another version for you
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to hear. But there's something funky about it too. See
if you can spot it. What do you recommend? What's popular?
And can you we are any flavors together or Gray
fid by fide you hear that you guessed it. That's
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not the yogurt person, that's actually Kyle. She re recorded
the part in our audio where the person talks, and
then she insisted on using that monster voice from the
tip line message that I rejected by the way, grow up. Okay, sorry,
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you know I love costumes and this was a little
costume from my voice. Okay, well when you put it
that way, I love it. You go girl. We knew
that these versions weren't going to work for you guys,
so we decided to transcribe what actually happened word for
word and hired professional actors and had them reenact the
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audio and now an ad break, the ad break is over.
We asked a really promising actor named Craig to play
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the yogurt person, and in an effort to not be biased,
we hired another great actor named Annie to portray Kyle.
The cold read was nothing short of awesome. Don't go
by the way, and do you make it? Or do
I make it? You can go ahead and self serve.
That was great, But we decided to make some slight
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adjustments because we wanted to convey how it actually felt
on that fateful night. Plus we loved good acting, remember
Kevin Costner. We gave a couple of small notes. We try.
I had to remain unbiased. Yeah, I think Craig, this
character is Okay, I think Annie, your character Kyle, she's
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really cool. She's really hot. People should be thankful she's
even in the store in the first place. Then something
really interesting happened. Annie, who until this point had been
wearing glasses, started to slowly remove her glasses. It was
a bit confusing, so Kyle asked for clarification. I did
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notice you just took off your glasses. Is that sort
of to represent this character in a new light? I
just didn't feel like Megan Fox would wear glasses and
Michael Bay films, so I also chose not to. It's
the perfect answer, and now we present in its entirety
what actually happened when we confronted the really mean person
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who worked at an undisclosed yogurt shop. What can I
do for you? Um? Hi, hi, I'm excited to get
some yokurt. This is really good stuff. But wait, that's
not how it was. I mean, there were sounds. It
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was very much alive, you know, there was a door,
a bell, techno music was in the background. We decided
to work with a fully artist that was recommended by
our editor well to be fully transparent. He was our editor.
He really wanted to try his hand at being a
fully artist, so we agreed under the condition that he
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would go by an alias for this specific project. Can
you introduce yourself? Yeah, Hi, I'm Adam. Wait a minute,
that was the editor's real name. Remember we talked about
you going by the name Bernard. We chose the name
Bernard because that's my favorite elf and Tim Allen's the
Santa Claus Hi and Bernard. To really drive in the
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authenticity of this fully artist persona. I even gave our
editor Adam nickname, and then, if it's okay, my nickname
for you is going to be Saint Bernard. Okay. We
sat with Bernard perusing our sound effect options. We were
a little disappointed. We thought the whole point of fully
artists was that they make the sounds themselves. Bernard was
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just finding sound effects on YouTube. It wasn't the perfect situation,
but we made it work. What about this? What about that's?
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I thought that sounded really good? I mean, what's not
to like? When I think of door, I think old, creepy,
you know, it's seen somethings. I guess the thing that
doesn't quite work is that when I hear that, I
think of the door almost like they it's coming off
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hinge and it's like swinging. And I thought that the
door that they had was actually pretty. It looked like
pretty like a pretty new door. Ouch. Okay, interesting point,
but I wondered if Kyle could do better. Let's hear
the clean hear that one just I just want to
know what that's It's good to hear them all. Huh
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oh yeah, I mean that sounded like a garage door.
If I'm being honest, it sounded like a great garage door,
one that was probably guarding something really good, like a
huge car or a boat, or help even a really
cool man case. Hell yeah, brother. In the end, Bernard
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really came through. He found us the perfect yogurt chop
door sound. It really brought the event to life. What
about this one? Yeah, yeah, that's it. Yeah, I think
that's good. I think we'll go with awesome. And then
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I guess there was music playing, So maybe if you
could find something that's like, um like techno music, Yeah,
that's yeah, that's a good idea, sort of like upbeat
music in the background. Can we use um just an idea?
Feel free to you know, shoot it down, But can
we use UMU my friend's song? Ah? Yeah, sure? Do
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you not like that? No? I just okay, let's let's
just hear it. Okay, it's good, It's like, it's very
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it's good, But I just to be honest, it kind
of brings me back to a dark place. And I
also feel like it's not the kind of music that
was playing in the shop. It was techno. So maybe
if this could be more of a techno version, it
could work. But okay, what about this? What if it
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was reworked as a kind of techno song, would that be? Okay? Yeah,
I think so. You'd just be willing to give it
a try. Yeah. I think that if it had more
of a techno tune to it, I think it could work. Okay, Okay.
I wrote my friend with and asked him to write
a techno version of his great song contemplating suicide, and
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I told him to step on it fully waits for
no one. He sent me a virgin within an hour.
It was so nice to work with you, Bernard. Thank you,
thank you so much for everything. St Bernard. You Okay,
now we were really ready, and now we present in
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its entirety what actually happened when we confronted the really
mean person who worked at an undisclosed yogurt shop. Uh,
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what can I do for you. Um, hi llo, I'm
excited to get some Kurt. You can go ahead and
self serve. Um, okay, what do you recommend? What's popular
for the throw? Definitely the cake bowder or the mango
swore bay? Okay? Can you swirl any flavors together? Does
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it have or is there or does it have to
be side by side? Machines are right there, so you
can actually build your own. So you can only swirl
some flavors, but you can get as many flavors as
you want. Are all these the toppings? Yeah? Wow? Can
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you mix the toppings? So the way it works is
that anything that is loose still goes by weight. Anything
in the container is two fifty, you can pick them out,
but the containers don't go by weight. And do you
make it or do I make it? You can go
ahead and self serve. Oh okay, and when you grab
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these you just hold onto them. Cool. I have a question,
does Jerry O'Connell come here? Who? Jerry O'Connell, I don't
know who. That is. Probably a lot of famous people
pull up, Little t J. Logan, Paul Mario, Guetta, Kirbye Red. Yeah,
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a bunch of people not to be a snaky pee,
But do you have a taster scrum? Do we have one?
Not to be a snaky pee, but do you have
a taster spoone taste spoon. Oh you actually can't eat
inside the store right now? Yeah, yeah, it just helps
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me eat slow. Yeah, and the Academy award goes to
Annie and Cray. Wow, Hey, did you like how Chloe
and Josh's award winning script mentioned Jerry O'Connell and the
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TV show Sneaky Pete. We didn't want to tell them
how to do their job, but let's just say we
gave them a few notes, and hey, it worked. Hearing
this script and watching those actors act, it really felt
like it did that night at the yogurt shop. It
was amazing. Well, now you know what we know back
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to that night, as we sat in my car eating froyo,
we reflected, it's really good. It's really the yogurt. Definitely. Honestly,
this is some of the best friends and yogurt I've
ever had. Yeah, and then you know what's really messed up.
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That person that we dealt with was one of the
nicest customer service people people I've ever encountered. Yeah, I mean,
like I had an answer for everything. He was patient
who was super patient. Once we were done asking questions,
he even said, I can help you with anything? Can
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I help you with anything else? He made us feel
seen and heard, But he was also really quick with
dealing with other people, but very quick while making them
feel comfortable and like they're coming back to a neighborhood place. Man,
he gave he gave me free he did. He gave
me free toppings. Wow, and I got too toppings. Two,
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the case was closed. This really mean yogurt person doesn't
mean at all, and Megan wasn't mean. Come to think
of it, Karen wasn't mean either, So what did this
tell us about meanness? We headed back to the beach
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to reflect on this investigation. Okay, thank you so much
for meeting me here. Against it was a long drive,
but I'm happy to be here. Yeah, but you got
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your oil changed. And then look at how beautiful it is.
I mean, the clouds today, honestly, are so bouncy and fluffy.
They're like, I don't know, they're like the pillows of
the sky. Yeah, you're right, Okay, I mean, I guess
we should think about what we learned. Right. We set
out to question what is meanness and why people are mean?
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And I guess, I guess we learned that it's not
that people are inherently mean, it's more that people can
just kind of have a bad day. And I guess
I learned that sometimes the best armor against mean people
is to not take it personally. But let's be honest,
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they were a bunch of dumasses. Sorry, it's just one
of those days. I love the sight of you. Truth
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Welcome to Truth Hounds, a production of I Heart Radio.
I'm Anna and I've been unemployed for about a year now,
so I really have nothing going on. And I'm Kyle.
In middle school, I received the award most Enthusiastic to Learn,
So that makes me pretty special. And that is what
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makes us the perfect investigative duo. We are two friends
who love each other very much, but what we love
even more is getting to the bottom of mysteries, all mysteries.
Sure that small mysteries, specifically, trust me, No mystery is
too small? No, no, no, Why don't you trust me
when I tell you we are ready to sniff around?
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We are the truth Hound O. M. Hello, Hey Kyle,
yere Hey it's it's Anna. Oh hey hey, Um, are
you busy right now? Oh? Well, I just put something
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in the oven? But what's up? Um? We need to talk.
I'll be right there. Thank you so much for meeting
me here. Yeah, I got my oil change, so I
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made the drive. It's nice and look, it's just it's
so beautiful. It really was beautiful. Uh So is this
the same investigation or a different one? No, it's the
same one. It's we're still asking why people are mean. Anyway,
I brought you here because I wanted to recap what
(01:53):
happened last week. So if you remember, last week, we
interviewed a celebrity, Karen kill Gareth about why she's mean.
It's a truth that I um feel they need to
be accountable for. Then we put out a call to action.
(02:17):
We asked people to name the meanest person that they
know in their life. I have never been more. I
don't I don't know how to say that they like
insult you personally. It's coming back to me now, right,
and then don't forget that. We also did a kind
(02:38):
of right along with the meanest person I know, megan
to kind of teach you how to be mean. But
that doesn't affect me. All I care about his mind
get in my nuts. Oh and let's not forget you
revealed that you used to be me. I used, why
(03:01):
how are you processing that? With time? Well? Should we
get back into it? I think? So Episode three, Why
are Some People Mean? Part two? The investigation was back on.
(03:24):
We were going to go to the yogurt shop where
Kyle would finally face this alleged mean person. But then
something occurred to me. Would she know what to say?
What if I got there and it was scary. What
if I stuttered? Anna? You know me, I clam up, Kyle,
(03:46):
It's okay, you just get a little nervous. I wish
that I had some words written out for me, so
I knew what to say, Like a script the new plan,
Hi are successful Hollywood screenwriters to write a full proof
script for Kyle to follow at the yogurt shop. We
(04:06):
started to think about the kind of dialogue we liked. Me, Kyle,
I like broad comedy, you know, the type of movie
where someone farts so loud that someone on the other
side of the world falls down, And me, Anna, I
like kind of more cerebral TV shows, you know, the
ones that two weeks later you're just in the shower
and it occurs to you. Huh, that's what that woman's
(04:30):
letter meant. These are shows that are smaller budgets, but
they have less creative input from the network exacts, you know,
your shows with your bush Emis or Giovanni Ribisi's. There
were no two ways about that. We knew who we
had to call. Hello, Hi, Chloe, Hey, and and John?
(05:00):
Is this a this is a conference call? Or well
we're in the same place. Actually, we lived together, so
we're in the We're on the same song. They were
Chloe and Josh and they were an unstoppable writing duo
who were in love with each other and scriptwriting. Just
for the record, Um, Chloe, you worked on Sneaky Pete
(05:22):
as a as a writer, right? I was the writer's assistant. Yeah,
but I started as the writer's p A and worked
my way up to writer's assistant. So she's great in
a room. She she really. I think they just saw
her and Azzle talk have muzzle and then wait and
(05:43):
then Josh, you wrote a Jerry O'Connell vehicle. Is that correct? Oh? Yeah,
I co wrote a Jerry O'Connell vehicle. Actually, I was
one of the writers, one of a one of a
few writers, but I was. I was one of the writers. Yes, yeah, awesome, Yeah,
that's really cool. Kyle had sent them an email the
(06:05):
day before asking them to write a script dialogue for
her to use while interacting with this mean yogurt person.
We told them this isn't your usual Hollywood writing gig,
but take it seriously, no messing around. So, um, would
you guys be willing to do do that for us? Yeah? Yeah,
(06:28):
I think we could write for you guys be thinking
I'm not sure? Sure, thank you. Now, this next part
is a bit unprofessional. I mean we're not the type
to lose our cool around famous people. Remember last week
when we interviewed known celebrity Karen kill Gareth. We were
(06:48):
super cool about that. But it's like, Okay, if you
saw Kevin Costner at the grocery store, are you not
going to say I loved you in the movie Tim Cup?
That's what I thought. We asked them what it was
like to work with Sneaky and Jerry O'Connell. They were
They were super cool, really easy to work with, great day,
really professional. Um. You know, it's a surprised they both
(07:10):
have worked for many years because I think they bring
that to sort of everything they do. Wow, celebrities are
just like us. Thanks so thanks much for doing this.
We'll talculator, we'll get into this script and we can
be in touch about that. Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, we'll definitely.
(07:30):
They work around the clock, these guys. We got the
script the next morning. Now we were properly armed and
ready to go to the yogurt shop to face the meno, well,
the alleged mino. We printed it out, unlocked Kyle's prius,
(07:52):
got in, put the key in the ignition, and started
the engine room room. But then we realized something in
the original tip about the mean yogurt person. Our helpful
tipster said all the details we needed except the time
he usually goes to get froo. I mean, if we
(08:13):
just went there at a random time, that would not
be scientific. The mean person might not even be there.
So we said, let's forget about the room room for
a second. We took the keys out of the ignition,
grabbed our script, locked the prius, and walked back to
my house to regroup. We sat down on Kyle's newly
(08:34):
purchased adult couch and we listened to our lead. Because amazing,
it's a it's a great yogurt. That's the problem is
that it's such good yogurt. It's right down the street
for my favorite sushi place. So bingo, the tipster said
it was down the street from his favorite sushi place.
(08:55):
From that, we intuited that he probably went after he
got sushi. We would just wait until it was a
reasonable time to get sushi and go after that. But
then something happened. Kyle picked up her copy of the
script started walking towards the front door and started unlocking
her prius before even putting her shoes on. I asked
(09:18):
her what the hell she was doing. I said to Anna,
don't you dare talk to me that way? We are
getting sushi. I countered to Kyle for eating sushi at
one pm? What are you on psychedelics? I explained to
Anna that this was the perfect time to get sushi.
(09:38):
One pm. The lunch rashes over. The fish just got
dropped off by the fish guy. What else would you want?
I didn't want to argue with Kyle, but between us girls,
I thought she was out of her Damn Gord. Everyone
knows that the perfect time to get sushi is at
(09:58):
nine pm. Now I'm p m. The conversations are flowing, Plus,
you feel like you're in Europe. Show Bill. If you
remember in the last episode Kyle was teaching me Italian, Well,
guess what it's been going? Really well? Our opinions were
(10:18):
as different as night and day, and we were just
two people. This made it complicated. If our opinions were
so different, then who knew what our helpful tipster was
talking about? For all we knew he could be getting
sushi at six am. It was anyone's guess. We knew
(10:39):
there was only one way to handle this problem. We
put out an immediate call to action on our beloved
social media platform Instagram. Kyle made another really cool graphic.
It was a picture of two really attractive people sharing
a quoi smile over a bound of tray of sushi.
(11:02):
Underneath it said what time do you and your loved
ones typically get sushi? To clarify, we added is it
around two p m? Or is it more like seven pm?
We told people it was important we heard from them.
The calls came flooding in. Kyle put her script back
down and we started crunching the numbers. But we didn't
(11:24):
only crunch numbers, Anna, We also learned a lot. All
sorts of different people got sushi at all sorts of
different hours for different reasons. Even Anna's mom responded, and
she's from Russia, no offense. What's crazy to me is,
first of all, I didn't even know that my mom
(11:44):
eats sushi, Like that's news me. And then I'm just like,
I find it kind of heartwarming that she grip of communism.
It was actually really cool. It seemed like everyone was
eating sushi. Have you ever seen like an old movie
in the nineties and they're like, let's go get sushi,
(12:05):
and then the guy's like, that's weird. Oh that fish thing. Yes,
that's right, and we look where we are. It kind
of shows you anything in petty we can progress. Absolutely,
we can beat anything. Okay, you're right. We did learn
a lot, but then we got back to crunching numbers
in analyzing data. Plus nineteen, Oh god, what's nineteen? Another nineteen?
(12:29):
I'm just getting scared as a number because I don't
want to find you know. Okay, it's okay plus nineteen
again again, okay, plus nineteen again. Sixty seven that average time.
I would say that that means that's the truth. That's
the truth. It's six thirty seven is the time to
(12:50):
go get sushi. Bingo. We had our time. We waited
around for five hours. We got hungry, which was good
because that meant we would actually go get sushi before
getting fro yo. I know, things are getting really good,
(13:13):
but we have to take a break for some ads.
And the ad break is over. We would walk a
mile in our tipsters shoes, because that's what good investigators do.
We picked up both of our scripts, put our shoes on.
(13:34):
Lock the door behind us unlocked, Kyle's prius got in,
put the keys in the ignition room room, and off
we went to get sushi. Then our bellies bursting with unagi.
We would confront the mean yoguru person. If you're sensitive
to sounds, you might want to turn this next part
down a little bit, you see, I'm meaning sushi and
(13:58):
my mouth is full, or if you're into this kind
of thing, blasted sister. But most places I think have
had a trouble transitioning. Yeah, just take out and is
really you should usually eat it. But honestly, this is
not that bad in the car. It's not about in
the car. Also, we right after we ordered, we we
(14:20):
drove up to a spot and then we sat down
to eat sushi. So it was kind of I mean,
it's a little bit like being served, you know, anyway
you get it. Because the big confrontation was right around
the corner, we tried to predict just what kind of
mean this yogurt person was going to be. Kyle went, first,
(14:42):
it's gonna be like kind of coded mean where it's
like it's like a spicy something of spicy food that like,
doesn't taste hot at first, but then as you as
you go it's not. It sneaks up by and you're like,
well there's and you go, there's the heat. There's the
(15:02):
heat exactly, there's the heat. Yeah, yeah, I mean I'm
really curious. Obviously everybody you think could soon to be like, okay,
you come in to my story, right, And then I'm
on the phone and I'm like, yeah, I would be, um,
i'd be willing to close the shop a little earlier
today since no one important is here. I know she
(15:24):
was just speaking in hypotheticals, but her acting was amazing.
That really hurt. Oh yeah, I would have to say something, yeah,
like I'm a person exactly, I don't think you should
actually close your shop. Because I'm standing right here. There's
(15:47):
still a little bit of food, so I save it,
save it, I save it and just put in the
bat and just like that, we were on our way.
Well not so quick, Kyle, did you memorize the script? Yeah,
that's what I thought. On the way to the froyo shop,
(16:09):
I helped Kyle run her lines. Do you make it
or do I make it? I'm just checking it. Do
you make it? Or do I make it exactly. That's
really good. I think you go. What you did just
now was perfect. Do you make your do? Do you
make it? Or do? I mean like you're almost like
I know the answer, but I forgot. Yeah. What helps
me is to save that line and kind of squint like,
(16:30):
do you make it or do I make it? Yeah? Exactly.
It gives you something, you grounds you a little bit.
You know, you make it? Or do I make it?
I almost forgot. It's like, wait, I was doing my
best to direct Kyle, acting as a kind of Cassavettes
of the duo. But I needed to do more. I
needed to get mean. I needed to become the Maurice
(16:50):
pilav of the duo. What you're about to hear, it's
my putting Kyle through the ringer. You're going to horror?
Do you think to me, I'm preparing you for the word. Hey, Hey, okay,
I'm gonna block you out. Okay, just block me out.
I'm not even here. Hello, Hi, I'm so excited to
get some yogurt. I've never cared what do you recommend?
(17:13):
What's popular? I don't care about my job. Can you
swirl any too flavors together? Or didn't have to be
side by side. You can swirl what I can say,
you can. These are all the topics you have. Can
you make any of them? You can make whatever you want.
I truly don't care about you. Do you do it?
(17:35):
Or do do you make it? Or do I make it?
I make it because that's my job. Cool. Does Jerry
O'Connell come here? No he doesn't. Actually, well, not to
be a sneaky pee. But do you guys have tasts? Foods? No?
Helps me eat? So we did it? So good? Whoa
(17:58):
Chloe and Josh would be in an excellent script? Amazing.
Now that my lines were memorized and I had endured
Anna's brutal acting boot camp, I was prepared for anything
that was about to come my way. Okay, so it's
in half a mile on the right hand side. Okay, Wow,
(18:21):
just like that we were at the Foyo shop. Well
not just like that again, I mean, think about what
it took to get here. We interviewed Karen. We asked
people to recommend the meanest person they could think of.
We did a ride along with Megan. We learned about capitalism,
(18:42):
We hired Hollywood writers, We learned what time people get sushi.
It was a long journey to get here, and now
we were finally on our way to confront the very
essence of what it meant to be mean. Nothing could
stop us. Well, actually that's not exactly true. The law
(19:07):
could stop us. And if you remember, there's one thing
I love more than my dog, it's the law. You see,
we really did go to the froyo shop, we promise,
but for legal reasons, we can't really play the audio
for you. Well, in a way we can, but you're
(19:27):
not gonna like it. Have a listen and do you
make it or okay, okay, See, we didn't want to
put you through that. It's unlistenable. We tried to work
around it, and we do have another version for you
(19:49):
to hear. But there's something funky about it too. See
if you can spot it. What do you recommend? What's popular?
And can you we are any flavors together or Gray
fid by fide you hear that you guessed it. That's
(20:19):
not the yogurt person, that's actually Kyle. She re recorded
the part in our audio where the person talks, and
then she insisted on using that monster voice from the
tip line message that I rejected by the way, grow up. Okay, sorry,
(20:42):
you know I love costumes and this was a little
costume from my voice. Okay, well when you put it
that way, I love it. You go girl. We knew
that these versions weren't going to work for you guys,
so we decided to transcribe what actually happened word for
word and hired professional actors and had them reenact the
(21:04):
audio and now an ad break, the ad break is over.
We asked a really promising actor named Craig to play
(21:26):
the yogurt person, and in an effort to not be biased,
we hired another great actor named Annie to portray Kyle.
The cold read was nothing short of awesome. Don't go
by the way, and do you make it? Or do
I make it? You can go ahead and self serve.
That was great, But we decided to make some slight
(21:46):
adjustments because we wanted to convey how it actually felt
on that fateful night. Plus we loved good acting, remember
Kevin Costner. We gave a couple of small notes. We try.
I had to remain unbiased. Yeah, I think Craig, this
character is Okay, I think Annie, your character Kyle, she's
(22:09):
really cool. She's really hot. People should be thankful she's
even in the store in the first place. Then something
really interesting happened. Annie, who until this point had been
wearing glasses, started to slowly remove her glasses. It was
a bit confusing, so Kyle asked for clarification. I did
(22:32):
notice you just took off your glasses. Is that sort
of to represent this character in a new light? I
just didn't feel like Megan Fox would wear glasses and
Michael Bay films, so I also chose not to. It's
the perfect answer, and now we present in its entirety
what actually happened when we confronted the really mean person
(22:56):
who worked at an undisclosed yogurt shop. What can I
do for you? Um? Hi, hi, I'm excited to get
some yokurt. This is really good stuff. But wait, that's
not how it was. I mean, there were sounds. It
(23:20):
was very much alive, you know, there was a door,
a bell, techno music was in the background. We decided
to work with a fully artist that was recommended by
our editor well to be fully transparent. He was our editor.
He really wanted to try his hand at being a
fully artist, so we agreed under the condition that he
(23:42):
would go by an alias for this specific project. Can
you introduce yourself? Yeah, Hi, I'm Adam. Wait a minute,
that was the editor's real name. Remember we talked about
you going by the name Bernard. We chose the name
Bernard because that's my favorite elf and Tim Allen's the
Santa Claus Hi and Bernard. To really drive in the
(24:06):
authenticity of this fully artist persona. I even gave our
editor Adam nickname, and then, if it's okay, my nickname
for you is going to be Saint Bernard. Okay. We
sat with Bernard perusing our sound effect options. We were
a little disappointed. We thought the whole point of fully
artists was that they make the sounds themselves. Bernard was
(24:29):
just finding sound effects on YouTube. It wasn't the perfect situation,
but we made it work. What about this? What about that's?
(24:51):
I thought that sounded really good? I mean, what's not
to like? When I think of door, I think old, creepy,
you know, it's seen somethings. I guess the thing that
doesn't quite work is that when I hear that, I
think of the door almost like they it's coming off
(25:12):
hinge and it's like swinging. And I thought that the
door that they had was actually pretty. It looked like
pretty like a pretty new door. Ouch. Okay, interesting point,
but I wondered if Kyle could do better. Let's hear
the clean hear that one just I just want to
know what that's It's good to hear them all. Huh
(25:42):
oh yeah, I mean that sounded like a garage door.
If I'm being honest, it sounded like a great garage door,
one that was probably guarding something really good, like a
huge car or a boat, or help even a really
cool man case. Hell yeah, brother. In the end, Bernard
(26:03):
really came through. He found us the perfect yogurt chop
door sound. It really brought the event to life. What
about this one? Yeah, yeah, that's it. Yeah, I think
that's good. I think we'll go with awesome. And then
(26:23):
I guess there was music playing, So maybe if you
could find something that's like, um like techno music, Yeah,
that's yeah, that's a good idea, sort of like upbeat
music in the background. Can we use um just an idea?
Feel free to you know, shoot it down, But can
we use UMU my friend's song? Ah? Yeah, sure? Do
(26:54):
you not like that? No? I just okay, let's let's
just hear it. Okay, it's good, It's like, it's very
(27:15):
it's good, But I just to be honest, it kind
of brings me back to a dark place. And I
also feel like it's not the kind of music that
was playing in the shop. It was techno. So maybe
if this could be more of a techno version, it
could work. But okay, what about this? What if it
(27:36):
was reworked as a kind of techno song, would that be? Okay? Yeah,
I think so. You'd just be willing to give it
a try. Yeah. I think that if it had more
of a techno tune to it, I think it could work. Okay, Okay.
I wrote my friend with and asked him to write
a techno version of his great song contemplating suicide, and
(27:57):
I told him to step on it fully waits for
no one. He sent me a virgin within an hour.
It was so nice to work with you, Bernard. Thank you,
thank you so much for everything. St Bernard. You Okay,
now we were really ready, and now we present in
(28:19):
its entirety what actually happened when we confronted the really
mean person who worked at an undisclosed yogurt shop. Uh,
(28:43):
what can I do for you. Um, hi llo, I'm
excited to get some Kurt. You can go ahead and
self serve. Um, okay, what do you recommend? What's popular
for the throw? Definitely the cake bowder or the mango
swore bay? Okay? Can you swirl any flavors together? Does
(29:07):
it have or is there or does it have to
be side by side? Machines are right there, so you
can actually build your own. So you can only swirl
some flavors, but you can get as many flavors as
you want. Are all these the toppings? Yeah? Wow? Can
(29:29):
you mix the toppings? So the way it works is
that anything that is loose still goes by weight. Anything
in the container is two fifty, you can pick them out,
but the containers don't go by weight. And do you
make it or do I make it? You can go
ahead and self serve. Oh okay, and when you grab
(29:50):
these you just hold onto them. Cool. I have a question,
does Jerry O'Connell come here? Who? Jerry O'Connell, I don't
know who. That is. Probably a lot of famous people
pull up, Little t J. Logan, Paul Mario, Guetta, Kirbye Red. Yeah,
(30:13):
a bunch of people not to be a snaky pee,
But do you have a taster scrum? Do we have one?
Not to be a snaky pee, but do you have
a taster spoone taste spoon. Oh you actually can't eat
inside the store right now? Yeah, yeah, it just helps
(30:36):
me eat slow. Yeah, and the Academy award goes to
Annie and Cray. Wow, Hey, did you like how Chloe
and Josh's award winning script mentioned Jerry O'Connell and the
(30:59):
TV show Sneaky Pete. We didn't want to tell them
how to do their job, but let's just say we
gave them a few notes, and hey, it worked. Hearing
this script and watching those actors act, it really felt
like it did that night at the yogurt shop. It
was amazing. Well, now you know what we know back
(31:27):
to that night, as we sat in my car eating froyo,
we reflected, it's really good. It's really the yogurt. Definitely. Honestly,
this is some of the best friends and yogurt I've
ever had. Yeah, and then you know what's really messed up.
(31:48):
That person that we dealt with was one of the
nicest customer service people people I've ever encountered. Yeah, I mean,
like I had an answer for everything. He was patient
who was super patient. Once we were done asking questions,
he even said, I can help you with anything? Can
(32:10):
I help you with anything else? He made us feel
seen and heard, But he was also really quick with
dealing with other people, but very quick while making them
feel comfortable and like they're coming back to a neighborhood place. Man,
he gave he gave me free he did. He gave
me free toppings. Wow, and I got too toppings. Two,
(32:35):
the case was closed. This really mean yogurt person doesn't
mean at all, and Megan wasn't mean. Come to think
of it, Karen wasn't mean either, So what did this
tell us about meanness? We headed back to the beach
(32:56):
to reflect on this investigation. Okay, thank you so much
for meeting me here. Against it was a long drive,
but I'm happy to be here. Yeah, but you got
(33:17):
your oil changed. And then look at how beautiful it is.
I mean, the clouds today, honestly, are so bouncy and fluffy.
They're like, I don't know, they're like the pillows of
the sky. Yeah, you're right, Okay, I mean, I guess
we should think about what we learned. Right. We set
out to question what is meanness and why people are mean?
(33:41):
And I guess, I guess we learned that it's not
that people are inherently mean, it's more that people can
just kind of have a bad day. And I guess
I learned that sometimes the best armor against mean people
is to not take it personally. But let's be honest,
(34:05):
they were a bunch of dumasses. Sorry, it's just one
of those days. I love the sight of you. Truth
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