January 12, 2023 • 34 mins
It's a family reunion on the wild side. Haley and Hanna are joined by their three sisters, so get ready to be entertained. When the five of them get together it doesn't take long for the shots to start flying. They dish about everything, no one is safe on this episode.
The crew discuss:
- Relationships
- Cheating
- Boyfriend types
- The Twins worst phase
- What happens if you attack the Twins
- Haley's driving
- Hanna's singing
- Social media battles
Haley and Hanna also discuss the comments made by Stanford head coach Tara VanDerveer in the NY TIMES about how NIL is taking women's sports backwards. Safe to say the Twins disagree. It gets a little spicy. Enjoy!
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
The following is a presentation of the College Athletes Network.
What's up, guys, Welcome back to Twin Talk. We are
the Cabinet Twins and this is College Athletes Network on
I Heart Radio. We have a really, really fun episode
for you guys coming up. You guys gonna meet the
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other sisters. Um, we have three of their sisters. We
grew up super close, so we cannot wait for the
to have them on the show. I definitely will get
a little crazy. We touch on social media, boys, growing up,
a lot of arguments that we had. But first we've
been talked and asked about something that recently came out
on New York Times about one of other one other
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guests and one of our friends, Livy Done. Um. They
came out and said that Tara vander Vee, a woman's
basketball Stanford legend coach, said that the way basically some
n I L athletes that are females are making money
or taking us a step backward. So me and Hannah
definitely have some opinions on that. We've been talked and
asked to discuss it and we wanted to do it
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on our twin podcasts. So it's about gets spicy I
just like don't see the point of saying that UM personally,
because I think UM women should be uplifting women, especially
entrepreneurs and UM young women who are trying to make
money UM. And I think just by saying because we
are making money or Oliva is making money because of
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our sex appeal is kind of a little much, And
I feel like that's a little disrespectful as well, just
because we are, you know, young women trying to make
UM and capitalize off of n I L I agree.
I think that obviously hearing that is something that no
one wants to hear, and it's more of just because
we aren't making the way the money the way she
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wants us to make it, or a person or an
opinion of others doesn't mean we're moving backwards. I think
that name, image and likeness passing has been such a
win for all student athletes, and we're all uniquely allowed
to make money. So I believe that why are we
trying to look for flaws in ways that young females
are expressing themselves confidently online and then trying to bring
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us down and say that's not the right way to
do it, Like, why why is that? Why is that
not to you the right way to do it, Like,
what are we doing that's wrong just because we like
to show up everybody like it's your your your own,
your body, You're you're allowed to show it off. How's
you want? Like, it's not anybody else is to judge.
I mean, yes, there's obviously people are gonna have comments
on whatever you do, or just even the article itself,
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like you can't see it here and say, just because
you know, someone you think is making money just because
they're attractive compared to another athlete isn't making enough money, um,
just because they don't you know, obviously have or they're
not using their platform for sex appeal in your words.
I just feel like that's very really disrespectful. That should
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that shouldn't be you know, that shouldn't be okay to say, right.
I think that also what goes on behind the scenes.
We talked about this with the on our podcast as well,
of how much work goes into a name, you know,
doing name image and likeness on the side within being
a college athlete and trying to manage it all. It's
just it's hard to hear because it's one I think,
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you know, it's not just sex cells. Obviously, I think
Livy is so fit and Livy all the all the
love and support she gets is so good. So it's
why are we putting a magnifying glass on what ways
a woman or a girl can make money at a
young age just because you know, she's cute, Like what? What? Why?
And I think is why why do we have to
bring it down others when they're doing they're doing great
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things like auto factually searching for a flaw. Just because
somebody is doing good doesn't mean that the other Like
just because Haley is killing it, you know, like that
doesn't mean it's a loss for me. You know, that's
a game for women, Like we got to look at
it like that, or that's a game for the younger
generation and young entrepreneurs, Like it shouldn't be like, oh,
you know what, just because I don't like how she's
doing it, it's a step backwards, Like no, what's not
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let's be really all know the freak it's not. It's
a step forward and I was a step forward. And
just because some people don't like the way other people
are probably profiting off their own image likeness doesn't mean
it doesn't mean that we're moving backwards, We're still moving forward.
And I think it's also hard because I think that
she's a legendary coach and among others in women's basketball
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and men's basketball, that even with our parents, it's new,
social media is new, TikTok is new. So from their generation,
it's like, Okay, why are they doing this? But from
our generation, social media is driving our world. It's it's
how you make money now, it's how you network, it's
how you make connections. So why we Why would we not?
My question is why would we not? Why would we
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not take advantage of everything that's in front of us
right now and try to capitalize off of it. And
if it's for Livy because she's fit and she's a
gymnast and people love her and little boys love Livy Done,
then why why is that a problem? Why is that?
Why is that such a big deal? And why is
that a step backwards? Because in reality, this is a
step forward women in young fem all athletes being able
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to profit off their name, image and likeness and even
compete in the same spectrum as male athletes in college
football is a win. So I just think that being
able to speak on this on our podcast and being
able to have an opinion on it because I know
Han and I are very known in the name image
and likeness UM community UM was something that we wanted
to touch on. But yes, I definitely disagreed, But also
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I know that people will talk regardless of who they are,
and you take it with a grain of salt. And
it's just like like New York Times, like for them
to lie to Livy's face, that was awful. And then
like literally it says the article ends with an example
of what Livy should have done, not posted any bikini
pictures and been just like the example given and it
was a Stanford basketball player. And I'm not saying that
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the basketball players the example, there's nothing wrong with either,
but like to sit here and be like, oh, she
should have supposed to a a bikini pick because you know
this Stanford basketball player isn't you know why? Why is
the Stanford basketball player right? Like for what? Like you're
not gonna shame one woman for doing something and not
the other just because of you're you're thinking and your beliefs,
Like that's not fair. And I lied to her and
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then like all journalism, they lied to Livy and then
they twisted it and portrayed her as this person, and
then it backfired down them because it's not okay what
you did to liv and saying she's not allowed to
do this and this is too much of her posting
like she's a confident young girl and she's being very
successful for her age, but we're gonna tear her down
because what because you're not making as much. And I'll
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just be real, just because she's doing the best, because
what Livy is one of the most profit profitable um
and I owe people and I'll like a woman and
you're gonna tear it down just because what you're not
making as much? Yeah, that's my question. So I don't know.
It just pisses me off with you. You're not gonna
sit here and tear down young women and degrade them
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and say that we're moving backwards when when we put
in a lot of work behind the scenes, and just
because you think it's because of a sex appeal, because
you like to show off your body in a bathing suit,
that's wrong. That's simply wrong. There's wrong and right, and
that's wrong. Yes, And I also think that in terms
sex cells to an extent. I hate even using that word,
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because it's not like Livi's out here or we are
out here. Other n IL athletes are out here like
posting all this like crazy stuff like what she goes
to the beach as any other girl would, any other
female girl would. That's confident. They love taking pictures of
the beach. She posts. Just because she gets this many
likes doesn't mean she's doing it the wrong way. It
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doesn't mean that, oh, we're moving backwards because she can
make money off of her social media pages now, or
just because you know, Livy gets so much love from
all these males or all the you know guys love Livy,
So it's like, why is that a bad thing. That
doesn't mean sex cells, That just means that people crush
on her. Like I just don't I just don't think
like she would never or I'm not speaking for her,
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but I just feel like in her situation, I don't
think she's judging others and how they are being successful
and how they are making money. In me and Hannah,
I know we were mentioning the article as well. We
are not going on of our way to say, you know,
this basketball player shouldn't be posting this or just because
she looks a certain way. She shouldn't allow to be
this and this, Like so, why are people allowed to
do that to us? I think that's I think that's
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not okay. I don't think it's okay just because one
moves us forward, just because in their opinion, that moves
us forward and other people's opinions, and I think multiple
people could sit here and say and back up saying that,
you know, sext Us sell in the world that we
live in today and that's just a sad reality, but
don't hate on us for capitalizing off of it and
putting ourselves in a position to be successful exactly. And
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also why doesn't matter if you if just because you're
a basketball player, Like we get this all the time,
especially me, Hannah, just because I'm a basketball player, and Hayley,
it's like, oh, well, you know what, you should just
stick to TikTok or you should do this. It's like
all these opinions like no, you're just Tiktoker's okay, Like
that's fine, Like sorry, at the end of the day,
like I'm still setting myself up for your future success.
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Like yeah, maybe I'm not getting the much any time,
or maybe I'm not doing this or that. But who
does sit Who's to sit here and say just because oh,
you know, there's there's a star basketball player out there
that they should be making more money than me just
because they're better than me at their sport. At the
end of the day, that's not how it works. That's
not how the world and that's not how the world works.
And I'm sorry. That doesn't mean we're moving backwards. That's
just how life is. And you're going to tear down
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young entrepreneurs. They are trying to make money and grow
their brand just because of a way that you not
liking how they're doing it. And that's just simply it's wrong. Okay,
you guys, So obviously that conversation was a little bit spicy.
Haley and I typically don't talk on controversial subjects, but
obviously we were mentioned in that article, so we felt
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that Um a little opinionated on it, um, and we
just wanted to talk about that. How you guys hear
our sad um from it. But coming up next you
will meet three other sisters, Brook, Brandy, and Natalie Um
are closest people in our corner. I cannot wait for
you guys to hear them hear what we talk about. Um,
you guys are gonna love them just as much as
we do, so you will meet them right after this break.
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You are listening to Twin Talk on the College Athletes Network. Well,
I think we cleared the air on that subject, Canna.
I know we get a little little heated, little heated
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on that, but we usually don't touch on topics that
come out on Twitter and stuff like that. But I
think we needed to say something, So I'm glad we
did it on our podcast because it's definitely important to us.
But with us. Also is very important to us is
our sisters. If you thought the last topic was a
little heated, you guys are sisters and us. We get chatting.
We do. We get chatting and some things probably shouldn't
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be said. But let me introduce them. If you guys
did not know, we have three other sisters, you probably
have seen them on our instagrams, on our TikTok. We're
a family of five girls and we're all very very close. Okay, Um, Hi,
everyone is super excited to be on Twin Talk. Um.
I'm Brooke. I'm the oldest sister of the five Cavendar girls.
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I live in Florida. So I'm one of the Florida girls.
I live like thirty minutes from the twins actually, so
we have to hang out a lot. Um. I work
in sales for our family business, and I'm definitely like them.
I would say. I would say I'm the leader of
the group. Definitely the core. She's the Kim kid. You're
like the second mom, the second mom, and then we
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have Brandy. Um, I'm Brandy. I'm twenty four. I'm the
second oldest of my sisters. UM. I live in Arizona
with Natalie and part time my mom. Um and I
live in a house my fiance, and I'm an ultrasound
tech Hi. I'm Natalie. Um, I'm the youngest. I'm twenty
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years old. I go to Arizona State University. Um, I'm
a junior majoring in journalism and mass communication and I'm
in a sorority. Hi, Beata Fi and I kind of
just lived like the normal college life. Okay, So, if
you guys did not know, we were all from and
born in Indiana, and then we all moved to Arizona
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and then we grew up together. Obviously because we're sisters,
there's been a lot of fights and stuff. But yeah,
it's kind of been different, like seeing how our relationships
and stuff like growing up has changed, like moving across
the country. But like I mean I face time them
like every day, Like I go to my sisters about
like different things, like each and every one of them.
So it's been crazy to see like how much closer
we've grown, even though like we've grown further apart in
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like states and stuff. Yeah, it's sad that we're all
moving away and stuff. So I think that when we
go back for Christmas, Like we just went home for Christmas,
Like it was so fun that we were like all
together because we used to do that all the time,
like every day Mom would make dinner at home after school,
and now we're face timing and not seeing each other.
We see each other like three times a year altogether,
like when we're all together, like when we meet, Like
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when we're together, like it's a party, like you know,
it's like it's going down, like we're going up, like
first year. So yeah, I'm excited for you guys. Listen
to this podcast. Is proubly gonna get very spicy. We
have a lot of opinions. Were all very competitive people.
We grew up very in a competitive family like my family.
My parents definitely embedded that into each and every one
of us. So yeah, let's get into some questions that
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you guys asked us on my Instagram account, like obviously
growing up, Like obviously we all have different boyfriends and stuff.
So I was just kinda somebody was curious about what
is everyone's like type? Do we all have the same type?
Like that? Somebody asked that questions you know you answer,
I'm into baseball boys really newly. I don't know if
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D three counts. Please add that in No, Brook, I'm
really in no a lot of these players. I don't
think we have the same type at all. Brooke is
all frat guys. Brook loves trap boys. I can't say
Brooks type. Who talks the most crap out of all
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of us. Brandy, it's not Mom, it's not we can't.
We can't a glue mom in this. Sorry Mom, if
you're listening to the most crap, you talked the most crap.
Brandy and Natalie absolutely Brandy and like, yeah, Natalie's an
insecutor though Natalie will I think still to this day,
I think people feel like comfortable out of our whole
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family to come to you. But then like I then like,
I'm like walking with mom at a night walk one time,
and I was like the only person I told was
Brandy this, So I know Brandy's opening your mouth. Yeah, well,
you guys still come to me, so clearly can't affect
you that back I built character. Okay, what was the
twins worst phase growing up? What was our worst phase
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growing up? Hannah's basketball shorts and snap back face? Oh
are we telling people how tomboy I used to be.
It's not a bad I never said it was, but
I know it's obvious. Leave, But it was funny. I'm
gonna say when Hannah used to sing those videos on
the laptop at home and would never stop singing, and
she was so bad, you know, like you were really
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like in a lot of those videos too, boo because
first Natalie Laptop, I swear I was not Natalie. When
Haley would wear the button up shirts but leave the
first leave the first two one button. What is one
thing that Hannah and I do separately that like pisses
you guys off? Like what really? You're just like, oh
my god, I can't stand So mine is with Hannah
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when I'm speaking to mom about any topic, Hannah has
to jump in and take her opinion in it. Anything.
It could be anything, Haley. Don't get me started on
the driving. I will not ride in the car of
Haley's driving anymore. It's not safe, Haley. When you went
to flip, Haley's flipping went into it. It is terrible.
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And it's not like she's on her phone. She's staring
straight at the road and it is detrimental. I could
be eating chicken nuggets, dipping it in ranch and French fries.
It would be better driving than her. Okay, I have
a question for you guys that's kind of relevant right
now because we're into our basketball season and everything. How
do you guys feel about like basketball talk, Like I
know that's been like a like a huge topic in
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our family. It's like, Okay, let's not talk about basketball
at the table, or let's not bring basketball up. Like
I feel like me like I've never related that so
much in my life, Hannah, personally, this is me talking
like we don't need to talk about basketball. Like I
finally feel like I can put myself in your all
shoes because of like the stage and like, um my
position that I'm in right now, So like, I just
(16:38):
want to say, I understand what you're saying, But how
do you guys feel about that topic like growing up
and stuff? It's just kind of like a lot I
can start off, um, I feel like for me and
I'm sure the girls too, Like, I don't really notice
anything because I feel like, well, first off, we all
played basketball growing up, so like for the most part,
it was always just kind of like we all did it, um.
But then when you guys been on to college, I
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don't know, I feel like it's just always been a talk.
So I don't really know any different, like, and I
like it. I don't know, we all like like watching
people basketball, Like I think all this like every single
game you guys play, like we're making sure we're training
on our computers to watch it and stuff. This season
has been a little hard obviously due to the roles
um not seeing you both on the court, so that's
a little hard. But as far as like basketball talk,
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I don't really think. I don't even know any difference
to me where if you guys don't play, there's not
basketball talk about. To be honest, I think, Natalie, I
feel like our lives have always revolved around that. Like
Brook said, like we've all played. I think that I
had like a different experience it with it growing up,
because like I would have to drive home with mom
and dad after the Gilbert High School days and it
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was like the whole car ride. Then the twins would
get home and then they would be yelling in the kitchen,
and then I'd wake up the next day and it
would still be talking about basketball, go to dinner, still
be talking about basketball. So like I cannot stand it.
And I love that you guys play, and I think
it's cool, but like the second basketball talk turns in
on our family, I'm just like immediate years off. Like
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I just if we talk about the twins, it's different,
but when we're talking about blah blah blah and other teams,
I'm like, who cares? Like why are we talking about this?
But that's all I have to say. Because you guys
aren't like into women's basketball, you know, like Bro, you'll
go to the bars on Sunday with like Mike to
watch like NFL or like even men's college basketball NBA.
But like I feel, if you're not watching, if you're
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not if you didn't play women's basketball. A lot of
the audience we get is former women's basketball players or
their families. If you don't, then you're gonna watch, like
you guys are gonna watch the men's side of it.
And I just think, like it's just so not that big,
Like I'm like now that I truly understand, like put
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myself like out. It's just like it's not that deep,
Like nobody cares as much as you think, and at
the end of the day, like, yeah, it's been like
a huge part of our lives and but it's eventually
gonna end, and like you're just not gonna be talking
about so and so on the basketball team and how
many points she dropped, like nobody cares, Like you just
gotta like move on, Like it's kind of what I've
tried to tell myself. But but let's move on. Let's
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talk about some relationship things, because we all have had
some relationship issues here. Obviously there's five of us, and
you know, there's a lot of personalities when you bring
a boy into the family, like you were meeting a
whole squad, like we are you know, we're we're coming
for you, like we're looking at everything you do so
like the first question I want to talk about is
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like what do you think, like like when you are
talking to a guy, like do you guys ever? Like
I know when I was talking to Corn and stuff
like okay, like I'm gonna have him meet my sisters.
Like that's a big step, right, Like that's how Haley
is right now, She's like okay, because like he meet
my sisters. I think that, Like it's not I think
it's like our whole family because there's five sisters, so
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it's like and mom, I kind of count as a
sister too, So like the opinions of all them, obviously
you're gonna take so personal and it's like hopefully they
like I'm like, hopefully they fit in. Obviously our sisters
are just gonna chat your ear officer, it doesn't really matter.
But I think it is like a little intimidating. I
mean Corby even said he was like your whole family,
Like it's a lot sometimes, Like even how we are
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talking right now, it's like we're all talking over each other.
We're loud, like we're gonna get on each other's backs
and stuff. So I think, like I'm gonna say a
prayer for me Natalie, especially for older sisters, Like I
think for a boy that's my age, that's probably very intimidating.
And then you throw like Jake, Corbyn and Mike into that,
like they have been a part of the family for
so long that it's like that's their squad too. So
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I just feel like that if I was being in
that position as a guy like new to the family,
I'd be like holy, like God. So but like I
think you guys are also making it seem like we're
super intimidating because if you look on it from a different,
like perspective, like I think that we're also a really
fun group. So when people do come in and they
see like how fun we are and like how we
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move as a unit, and then like you throw the
guys in there, and you have Jake and Corvin and
Mike who are also like a complete different like pack themselves.
Like people want to be a part of that, like
in a way because it's so fun and like we
go do fun things and want us five are together,
like it's like a blast. And then the guys too,
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like and then we can all go do something while
the guys do their own things. So it's like we've
kind of created a good point. Like I think that's
because I feel when I'm dating someone and they have
like a fun family, like kind of how you are,
Jake Briney, Like you guys are always doing something like
I love like big families and like going to do
things like hanging out with their family and stuff. So
it's like even like my ex, like he always wanted
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to be around our family because we're always going to
do something like it makes it fun, you know what
I mean. I also feel like once you're out of
the group, you're out of the group. There's like no
making your way, like you do one of us wrong exactly,
like let's just not name your name drop here. But
I remember when um, Natalie got cheated on, Yeah, cheating
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on Natalie, which time a lot of times, and I
remember the first time we were like done, Like if
you if you heard like especially me, if you treat
one of my sisters poorly or wrongly or like I
don't think you treat them right, like I don't like you,
Like it's like they deserve like a certain standard, and
I don't feel like if you're giving it to them
like you, they shouldn't, like you're not worth it. So
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Natalie decided this is her personal choice to get back
together with him. Besides besides, and it was like, you know,
he's not invited to the family dinners, like she has
to pick, and she was like that's how it kind
of was, like it was like for a second, yeah,
I think that it was hard because it's like it's
really hard for me and you, especially with like Natalie
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or even broke in the past, like you're gonna cheat
on my sister, Like why do you even if they
don't see their worth of the time, Like you don't
think you can come back into our family thinking like
oh we're cool, Like you just hit up another girl
to come hang out. Why would we be cool with you?
Although when Brooke got cheated on time, the twins through
all of his clothes out and then Brooke decided to
go out and pull them up. I think that shows
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that we love And she found out out our house
and we were all home, immediately took his laptop. I
don't care. I'm telling I'm telling you, like I'm ruthless
human being, do not to my sisters wrong. I wrote
cheater five times that night. We found she's six times
that night guys, and he was staying at our house
and he was staying at our house like that's just disrespectful.
And then he's folding. Okay, I'll never forget this. Brooks
(23:19):
like out there folding his clothes because me nearately threw
him out of the guest room. Don't don't you can
stay in our house. And my mom goes out there
and I'm like, Mom, tell her to stop folding his clothes,
like literally run him over with the car. And she's like,
she's a better human, Hannah, She's a better And then
we didn't see Brooke for six months because she chose
um that guy. So that's fun now that they're past
(23:40):
with it. We love brook and Natalie seven times a charm. Okay,
we will be right back with more spicy questions. We
just kind of want to introduce our sisters with you guys,
but this is Twin Talk on the College Athletes Network.
We will be right back. Okay, So we are back
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after the little break. We are still here with our sisters,
and we are going to be talking about a lot
of social media in this segment, how our sisters feel
about it, how they feel about hate comments. Obviously, being sisters,
like you get protective, Like I'm very protective of them.
So Haley and I obviously we get a lot of
love on social media, but that comes with hate and
they are not ones to be quiet. Let me tell
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you about them, like, they will not be quiet. So
you guys asked a lot of questions on Instagram, had
Hannah said in the first segment, and where you're gonna
get to those right now here is a good one.
How do you guys handle as older younger sisters of
us getting hate comments a lot? Like what do you
feel like when you're like, do you want to attack them?
Like I know we like talked about this in the past,
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but like there's a lot of messages in the group chests. Um. Yeah,
So it's definitely hard for us to sit back because
growing up were very like a we take each other's back.
So if someone said something to someone at school, like
I got suspended because someone punched chin on the bus,
So I went to school and beat his booty the
next day. And that's just how we grew up. Like
you talk ship you get hit kind of thing. But
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on social media with the presence, you can't really do
that nowadays, um, because you'll get canceled or whatever. You know,
we are connected to Handon Haley, so if we say
something that could go back and portray on them, So
we try to keep it in our group chat. If
I ever got leaked would be really really bad. Um,
but we try to keep it in the group chat.
We do comment back sometimes. Brandy and I really do
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tag team and sometimes go off on people that are
a little bit too mean, but um, you know, it's
just kind of same thing. You know, have each other's backs,
and but we do have to watch what we say
because twins have a presence. And I think that I
used to be really good and would not comment back
or I say something. But then I started realizing, like,
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mental health is real, and I struggle with mental health
and I know that other people do, and I feel
like negative comments from people just kind of add to that.
And as an older sister, like you don't want to
see that. So I definitely started coming back. And now
if someone wants to say something super stupid, I will
come ten times harder. And so this is more of
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a threat than a warning. UM, comment at your own risk.
What about you now, I feel like you're very level.
I just like I feel like people on social media, like,
if you're commenting hate, you're obviously like sad within yourself.
So like, because it would take a lot for me
to sit behind a screen with like user seven seven
zero and be like, oh my god, you stuck at
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basketball when I know they're sitting in probably their parents
basement and you guys are playing Division one basketball making
your bag. So it's just like I think about it
that way, and it's like, Okay, well you live a
better life than them, and they're just sad, so let
them comment what they want to comment. Now that I
think you also struggle with this too, is when guys
will ask you be like, oh my gosh, your sisters
like are you you know you're telling me that when
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we were home for Christmas? Can you stop talking to
me when? Because I'm recently single. Now, if a boy
like starts the conversation with the are you the kabin
or twin sister, it's immediately over. You're pending on snapchat,
you are blocked that Like I love Handley and they're
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my sisters, and I think it's amazing like their stuff,
but that's not my only personality trait. So if you're
going to slide into my d M. So let's not
slide in like that. Exactly. Not Brooke, didn't you have
that problem at the club. I've had it a few times,
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but the same thing. It's not only it's not a
personality trait, so exactly except for me, Okay, I'm just
going back to the TikTok thing. There was an incident
like a couple of months back that happened with me,
and it was just like completely like fabricated, like the
things that people were saying, like it just wasn't true.
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And I'm not the type of person to go online
and like offend myself for stuff. I'm kind of just
more of like handling in private, like I've always done
my business in private and I just was raised that way. Um,
but just going along with the sisters and saying like
how they're protective, like they wanted to jump on the ship,
like as soon as something happened, like it got sent
to me, like they wanted to jump on the ship
protect me. But it's like I feel like we had
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to just like dial back and be like no, you guys,
Like people are gonna want to do stuff to get
um social media fame or like just try to bring
others down and like my sisters, um, they're the first
ones to just like have our backs and like I
just like have never like it's just like so supportive.
But also sometimes you're just like you guys, you cannot
say that like that. One's got to be kept in
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the drafts. Going off of that, in that whole situation,
I'm gonna start with, I have never seen someone reply
so much but then go ahead and speak on a
situation where they weren't repplying that And it's kind of
sad to think like that. People do that in order
to get views and things like that, and you're gonna
take something completely out of context to try to get views. Um.
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And what was super funny about that is, like I said,
she was replying with words that she wasn't saying over text,
which if the situation would have occurred and she would
have been straight up with you instead of however many
followers she has, um, it would have ended because you're
not that type of person. So many people like this
cancel culture. The thing that's going around for TikTok and
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Instagram is so it's everyone so quiet, and so there's
like a trending video of someone jumping ship on someone
for doing one mistake in their life. For they're blasted
and it's game over, and then everyone's like, oh, I
remember when this person didn't say had to me in
the hallway in high school. Yeah, but it's like you
can't even control that, Like people will literally like say
things and like you you can't defend yourself. Like it's like, okay, whatever,
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they can just have it, Like that's just kind of
my mentality, like let them win. Like I'm not gonna
sit here and fight with ignorance. So at the end
of the day, like you can have you know, your views,
you can have that, Like that's not all I'm chasing,
So that's what you want to chase, go for it.
I was just gonna say, like the people commenting on
the video that are like influencers or like content creators,
Like you're commenting on someone getting canceled, but the second
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like that would happen to them or if it happened
to them, Like you know, you wouldn't be commenting on
their video if that happened to them. So it's just
like funny that people jump shipped when like you're in
the wrong, but the second if that would happen to them.
It's like, oh, but they don't even know the other
side of this story. Like people just spoke. That's what's
so like weird about our society that we leave in
like they'll believe one side of the story, but like
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you won't be open minds to me, like, oh there's
another side to another person like that like had a
different opinion on it. But I mean I was just
like thinking about that because I went to my sisters
a lot for that situation. Um, I'm not gonna like
the name drop names. I don't have any hate for anybody,
but um, at the end of the day, like I
just think, don't I mean, at the end of the day,
just be a better person and like don't try to
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bring others down and make yourself feel better for a
couple of views, Like is that canna help you sleep
better at night? So I don't know. And let's add
in that you apologize exactly and then and then she
and then she's lacked me as if like after like
she saw like it was just it's just bad. It's
just like tells you what kind of every human she
is and that's not who I am. You have to
pick and choose your battles now too. I feel like
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nowadays it's like either people want to put you in
a position where they can take advantage of you and
like put change the words or something like that situation,
or they want something from you. So it's like one
or the other. And I think we became really good
at just understanding, Like okay, no, so who's excited because
we do have our first sister wedding. Our first sister
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is getting married and she got engaged Brittany August in August,
and we all were out there for it. But you guys,
like I cannot wait for her about Tott party. It's
in freaking Nashville. It's gonna be so fun. You're supposed
to be more excited. I'm so excited for the wedding
just because like you guys are like so like you
guys are such simple people, you and Jake, like I meaning,
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we're just talking about this Sather, Like you guys do
not really care about all the like you guys are
just chill. The wedding is like crazy. I don't know
if their wedding then it was gonna be insane, Like
you're married the best and they have like all the
bells and whistles, like they're having like the full SHEBANGI
this is how I can say what I know. But
she she means that like they don't need a lot
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to have fun, like fun no matter what. The wedding
venue is going to be insane. But like at the
end of the day, Brainy and Jake are just like
such fun people and like Jake like just hearing like
I don't even know, like just being able to like
witness them and like come together, like because we've known
Jake so long, I just feel like it's going to
be so fun. Yeah, I meant just like it would
be in the front yard, it would be fun still,
like you guys would still have a good time, Yeah, exactly,
Like Brooke would be like I'm not getting married, would
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be like Brandy would be like, no, like let's crack
over some white cloths called at night. You know what
I mean. I think it's fun, but I think it's
also stressful because like we've talked about like getting married
for so long, like as sisters and so like there's
so many things that I want to, like you know,
like pay vow and like see the picture. But it's
also hard because you have to be realistic and limit
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yourself sometimes and then it's very stressful and overwhelming. And
my maid of honor really I played wedding and I'm
planning your pat and Natalie is a maid of honor.
E no, she's the chief and dinner the other night
we were not nominously, but we're you guys, like the
pictures or stuff, like her vision is gonna be like,
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it's so cute. I can't wait to vlogging and sure that. Dude, Yeah,
it's gonna be so fun. Thank you. Alright, guys, that
was a lot of talking, a lot of girl chat
in this episode. That was Brooke, Brandy and Natalie, three
of the closest people to Handah and I. You guys
got a little taste of what it's like growing up
in our household. Clearly it was crazy. We wouldn't trade
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it for the world, though. Um those are our people,
So make sure you guys tune into the next Eplica episode.
This is twin Talk on College Athletes Network m H.
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This has been a presentation of the College Athletes Network
The following is a presentation of the College Athletes Network.
What's up, guys, Welcome back to Twin Talk. We are
the Cabinet Twins and this is College Athletes Network on
I Heart Radio. We have a really, really fun episode
for you guys coming up. You guys gonna meet the
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other sisters. Um, we have three of their sisters. We
grew up super close, so we cannot wait for the
to have them on the show. I definitely will get
a little crazy. We touch on social media, boys, growing up,
a lot of arguments that we had. But first we've
been talked and asked about something that recently came out
on New York Times about one of other one other
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guests and one of our friends, Livy Done. Um. They
came out and said that Tara vander Vee, a woman's
basketball Stanford legend coach, said that the way basically some
n I L athletes that are females are making money
or taking us a step backward. So me and Hannah
definitely have some opinions on that. We've been talked and
asked to discuss it and we wanted to do it
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on our twin podcasts. So it's about gets spicy I
just like don't see the point of saying that UM personally,
because I think UM women should be uplifting women, especially
entrepreneurs and UM young women who are trying to make
money UM. And I think just by saying because we
are making money or Oliva is making money because of
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our sex appeal is kind of a little much, And
I feel like that's a little disrespectful as well, just
because we are, you know, young women trying to make
UM and capitalize off of n I L I agree.
I think that obviously hearing that is something that no
one wants to hear, and it's more of just because
we aren't making the way the money the way she
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wants us to make it, or a person or an
opinion of others doesn't mean we're moving backwards. I think
that name, image and likeness passing has been such a
win for all student athletes, and we're all uniquely allowed
to make money. So I believe that why are we
trying to look for flaws in ways that young females
are expressing themselves confidently online and then trying to bring
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us down and say that's not the right way to
do it, Like, why why is that? Why is that
not to you the right way to do it, Like,
what are we doing that's wrong just because we like
to show up everybody like it's your your your own,
your body, You're you're allowed to show it off. How's
you want? Like, it's not anybody else is to judge.
I mean, yes, there's obviously people are gonna have comments
on whatever you do, or just even the article itself,
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like you can't see it here and say, just because
you know, someone you think is making money just because
they're attractive compared to another athlete isn't making enough money, um,
just because they don't you know, obviously have or they're
not using their platform for sex appeal in your words.
I just feel like that's very really disrespectful. That should
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that shouldn't be you know, that shouldn't be okay to say, right.
I think that also what goes on behind the scenes.
We talked about this with the on our podcast as well,
of how much work goes into a name, you know,
doing name image and likeness on the side within being
a college athlete and trying to manage it all. It's
just it's hard to hear because it's one I think,
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you know, it's not just sex cells. Obviously, I think
Livy is so fit and Livy all the all the
love and support she gets is so good. So it's
why are we putting a magnifying glass on what ways
a woman or a girl can make money at a
young age just because you know, she's cute, Like what? What? Why?
And I think is why why do we have to
bring it down others when they're doing they're doing great
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things like auto factually searching for a flaw. Just because
somebody is doing good doesn't mean that the other Like
just because Haley is killing it, you know, like that
doesn't mean it's a loss for me. You know, that's
a game for women, Like we got to look at
it like that, or that's a game for the younger
generation and young entrepreneurs, Like it shouldn't be like, oh,
you know what, just because I don't like how she's
doing it, it's a step backwards, Like no, what's not
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let's be really all know the freak it's not. It's
a step forward and I was a step forward. And
just because some people don't like the way other people
are probably profiting off their own image likeness doesn't mean
it doesn't mean that we're moving backwards, We're still moving forward.
And I think it's also hard because I think that
she's a legendary coach and among others in women's basketball
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and men's basketball, that even with our parents, it's new,
social media is new, TikTok is new. So from their generation,
it's like, Okay, why are they doing this? But from
our generation, social media is driving our world. It's it's
how you make money now, it's how you network, it's
how you make connections. So why we Why would we not?
My question is why would we not? Why would we
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not take advantage of everything that's in front of us
right now and try to capitalize off of it. And
if it's for Livy because she's fit and she's a
gymnast and people love her and little boys love Livy Done,
then why why is that a problem? Why is that?
Why is that such a big deal? And why is
that a step backwards? Because in reality, this is a
step forward women in young fem all athletes being able
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to profit off their name, image and likeness and even
compete in the same spectrum as male athletes in college
football is a win. So I just think that being
able to speak on this on our podcast and being
able to have an opinion on it because I know
Han and I are very known in the name image
and likeness UM community UM was something that we wanted
to touch on. But yes, I definitely disagreed, But also
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I know that people will talk regardless of who they are,
and you take it with a grain of salt. And
it's just like like New York Times, like for them
to lie to Livy's face, that was awful. And then
like literally it says the article ends with an example
of what Livy should have done, not posted any bikini
pictures and been just like the example given and it
was a Stanford basketball player. And I'm not saying that
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the basketball players the example, there's nothing wrong with either,
but like to sit here and be like, oh, she
should have supposed to a a bikini pick because you know
this Stanford basketball player isn't you know why? Why is
the Stanford basketball player right? Like for what? Like you're
not gonna shame one woman for doing something and not
the other just because of you're you're thinking and your beliefs,
Like that's not fair. And I lied to her and
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then like all journalism, they lied to Livy and then
they twisted it and portrayed her as this person, and
then it backfired down them because it's not okay what
you did to liv and saying she's not allowed to
do this and this is too much of her posting
like she's a confident young girl and she's being very
successful for her age, but we're gonna tear her down
because what because you're not making as much. And I'll
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just be real, just because she's doing the best, because
what Livy is one of the most profit profitable um
and I owe people and I'll like a woman and
you're gonna tear it down just because what you're not
making as much? Yeah, that's my question. So I don't know.
It just pisses me off with you. You're not gonna
sit here and tear down young women and degrade them
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and say that we're moving backwards when when we put
in a lot of work behind the scenes, and just
because you think it's because of a sex appeal, because
you like to show off your body in a bathing suit,
that's wrong. That's simply wrong. There's wrong and right, and
that's wrong. Yes, And I also think that in terms
sex cells to an extent. I hate even using that word,
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because it's not like Livi's out here or we are
out here. Other n IL athletes are out here like
posting all this like crazy stuff like what she goes
to the beach as any other girl would, any other
female girl would. That's confident. They love taking pictures of
the beach. She posts. Just because she gets this many
likes doesn't mean she's doing it the wrong way. It
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doesn't mean that, oh, we're moving backwards because she can
make money off of her social media pages now, or
just because you know, Livy gets so much love from
all these males or all the you know guys love Livy,
So it's like, why is that a bad thing. That
doesn't mean sex cells, That just means that people crush
on her. Like I just don't I just don't think
like she would never or I'm not speaking for her,
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but I just feel like in her situation, I don't
think she's judging others and how they are being successful
and how they are making money. In me and Hannah,
I know we were mentioning the article as well. We
are not going on of our way to say, you know,
this basketball player shouldn't be posting this or just because
she looks a certain way. She shouldn't allow to be
this and this, Like so, why are people allowed to
do that to us? I think that's I think that's
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not okay. I don't think it's okay just because one
moves us forward, just because in their opinion, that moves
us forward and other people's opinions, and I think multiple
people could sit here and say and back up saying that,
you know, sext Us sell in the world that we
live in today and that's just a sad reality, but
don't hate on us for capitalizing off of it and
putting ourselves in a position to be successful exactly. And
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also why doesn't matter if you if just because you're
a basketball player, Like we get this all the time,
especially me, Hannah, just because I'm a basketball player, and Hayley,
it's like, oh, well, you know what, you should just
stick to TikTok or you should do this. It's like
all these opinions like no, you're just Tiktoker's okay, Like
that's fine, Like sorry, at the end of the day,
like I'm still setting myself up for your future success.
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Like yeah, maybe I'm not getting the much any time,
or maybe I'm not doing this or that. But who
does sit Who's to sit here and say just because oh,
you know, there's there's a star basketball player out there
that they should be making more money than me just
because they're better than me at their sport. At the
end of the day, that's not how it works. That's
not how the world and that's not how the world works.
And I'm sorry. That doesn't mean we're moving backwards. That's
just how life is. And you're going to tear down
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young entrepreneurs. They are trying to make money and grow
their brand just because of a way that you not
liking how they're doing it. And that's just simply it's wrong. Okay,
you guys, So obviously that conversation was a little bit spicy.
Haley and I typically don't talk on controversial subjects, but
obviously we were mentioned in that article, so we felt
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that Um a little opinionated on it, um, and we
just wanted to talk about that. How you guys hear
our sad um from it. But coming up next you
will meet three other sisters, Brook, Brandy, and Natalie Um
are closest people in our corner. I cannot wait for
you guys to hear them hear what we talk about. Um,
you guys are gonna love them just as much as
we do, so you will meet them right after this break.
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You are listening to Twin Talk on the College Athletes Network. Well,
I think we cleared the air on that subject, Canna.
I know we get a little little heated, little heated
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on that, but we usually don't touch on topics that
come out on Twitter and stuff like that. But I
think we needed to say something, So I'm glad we
did it on our podcast because it's definitely important to us.
But with us. Also is very important to us is
our sisters. If you thought the last topic was a
little heated, you guys are sisters and us. We get chatting.
We do. We get chatting and some things probably shouldn't
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be said. But let me introduce them. If you guys
did not know, we have three other sisters, you probably
have seen them on our instagrams, on our TikTok. We're
a family of five girls and we're all very very close. Okay, Um, Hi,
everyone is super excited to be on Twin Talk. Um.
I'm Brooke. I'm the oldest sister of the five Cavendar girls.
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I live in Florida. So I'm one of the Florida girls.
I live like thirty minutes from the twins actually, so
we have to hang out a lot. Um. I work
in sales for our family business, and I'm definitely like them.
I would say. I would say I'm the leader of
the group. Definitely the core. She's the Kim kid. You're
like the second mom, the second mom, and then we
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have Brandy. Um, I'm Brandy. I'm twenty four. I'm the
second oldest of my sisters. UM. I live in Arizona
with Natalie and part time my mom. Um and I
live in a house my fiance, and I'm an ultrasound
tech Hi. I'm Natalie. Um, I'm the youngest. I'm twenty
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years old. I go to Arizona State University. Um, I'm
a junior majoring in journalism and mass communication and I'm
in a sorority. Hi, Beata Fi and I kind of
just lived like the normal college life. Okay, So, if
you guys did not know, we were all from and
born in Indiana, and then we all moved to Arizona
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and then we grew up together. Obviously because we're sisters,
there's been a lot of fights and stuff. But yeah,
it's kind of been different, like seeing how our relationships
and stuff like growing up has changed, like moving across
the country. But like I mean I face time them
like every day, Like I go to my sisters about
like different things, like each and every one of them.
So it's been crazy to see like how much closer
we've grown, even though like we've grown further apart in
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like states and stuff. Yeah, it's sad that we're all
moving away and stuff. So I think that when we
go back for Christmas, Like we just went home for Christmas,
Like it was so fun that we were like all
together because we used to do that all the time,
like every day Mom would make dinner at home after school,
and now we're face timing and not seeing each other.
We see each other like three times a year altogether,
like when we're all together, like when we meet, Like
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when we're together, like it's a party, like you know,
it's like it's going down, like we're going up, like
first year. So yeah, I'm excited for you guys. Listen
to this podcast. Is proubly gonna get very spicy. We
have a lot of opinions. Were all very competitive people.
We grew up very in a competitive family like my family.
My parents definitely embedded that into each and every one
of us. So yeah, let's get into some questions that
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you guys asked us on my Instagram account, like obviously
growing up, Like obviously we all have different boyfriends and stuff.
So I was just kinda somebody was curious about what
is everyone's like type? Do we all have the same type?
Like that? Somebody asked that questions you know you answer,
I'm into baseball boys really newly. I don't know if
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D three counts. Please add that in No, Brook, I'm
really in no a lot of these players. I don't
think we have the same type at all. Brooke is
all frat guys. Brook loves trap boys. I can't say
Brooks type. Who talks the most crap out of all
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of us. Brandy, it's not Mom, it's not we can't.
We can't a glue mom in this. Sorry Mom, if
you're listening to the most crap, you talked the most crap.
Brandy and Natalie absolutely Brandy and like, yeah, Natalie's an
insecutor though Natalie will I think still to this day,
I think people feel like comfortable out of our whole
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family to come to you. But then like I then like,
I'm like walking with mom at a night walk one time,
and I was like the only person I told was
Brandy this, So I know Brandy's opening your mouth. Yeah, well,
you guys still come to me, so clearly can't affect
you that back I built character. Okay, what was the
twins worst phase growing up? What was our worst phase
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growing up? Hannah's basketball shorts and snap back face? Oh
are we telling people how tomboy I used to be.
It's not a bad I never said it was, but
I know it's obvious. Leave, But it was funny. I'm
gonna say when Hannah used to sing those videos on
the laptop at home and would never stop singing, and
she was so bad, you know, like you were really
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like in a lot of those videos too, boo because
first Natalie Laptop, I swear I was not Natalie. When
Haley would wear the button up shirts but leave the
first leave the first two one button. What is one
thing that Hannah and I do separately that like pisses
you guys off? Like what really? You're just like, oh
my god, I can't stand So mine is with Hannah
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when I'm speaking to mom about any topic, Hannah has
to jump in and take her opinion in it. Anything.
It could be anything, Haley. Don't get me started on
the driving. I will not ride in the car of
Haley's driving anymore. It's not safe, Haley. When you went
to flip, Haley's flipping went into it. It is terrible.
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And it's not like she's on her phone. She's staring
straight at the road and it is detrimental. I could
be eating chicken nuggets, dipping it in ranch and French fries.
It would be better driving than her. Okay, I have
a question for you guys that's kind of relevant right
now because we're into our basketball season and everything. How
do you guys feel about like basketball talk, Like I
know that's been like a like a huge topic in
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our family. It's like, Okay, let's not talk about basketball
at the table, or let's not bring basketball up. Like
I feel like me like I've never related that so
much in my life, Hannah, personally, this is me talking
like we don't need to talk about basketball. Like I
finally feel like I can put myself in your all
shoes because of like the stage and like, um my
position that I'm in right now, So like, I just
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want to say, I understand what you're saying, But how
do you guys feel about that topic like growing up
and stuff? It's just kind of like a lot I
can start off, um, I feel like for me and
I'm sure the girls too, Like, I don't really notice
anything because I feel like, well, first off, we all
played basketball growing up, so like for the most part,
it was always just kind of like we all did it, um.
But then when you guys been on to college, I
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don't know, I feel like it's just always been a talk.
So I don't really know any different, like, and I
like it. I don't know, we all like like watching
people basketball, Like I think all this like every single
game you guys play, like we're making sure we're training
on our computers to watch it and stuff. This season
has been a little hard obviously due to the roles
um not seeing you both on the court, so that's
a little hard. But as far as like basketball talk,
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I don't really think. I don't even know any difference
to me where if you guys don't play, there's not
basketball talk about. To be honest, I think, Natalie, I
feel like our lives have always revolved around that. Like
Brook said, like we've all played. I think that I
had like a different experience it with it growing up,
because like I would have to drive home with mom
and dad after the Gilbert High School days and it
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was like the whole car ride. Then the twins would
get home and then they would be yelling in the kitchen,
and then I'd wake up the next day and it
would still be talking about basketball, go to dinner, still
be talking about basketball. So like I cannot stand it.
And I love that you guys play, and I think
it's cool, but like the second basketball talk turns in
on our family, I'm just like immediate years off. Like
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I just if we talk about the twins, it's different,
but when we're talking about blah blah blah and other teams,
I'm like, who cares? Like why are we talking about this?
But that's all I have to say. Because you guys
aren't like into women's basketball, you know, like Bro, you'll
go to the bars on Sunday with like Mike to
watch like NFL or like even men's college basketball NBA.
But like I feel, if you're not watching, if you're
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not if you didn't play women's basketball. A lot of
the audience we get is former women's basketball players or
their families. If you don't, then you're gonna watch, like
you guys are gonna watch the men's side of it.
And I just think, like it's just so not that big,
Like I'm like now that I truly understand, like put
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myself like out. It's just like it's not that deep,
Like nobody cares as much as you think, and at
the end of the day, like, yeah, it's been like
a huge part of our lives and but it's eventually
gonna end, and like you're just not gonna be talking
about so and so on the basketball team and how
many points she dropped, like nobody cares, Like you just
gotta like move on, Like it's kind of what I've
tried to tell myself. But but let's move on. Let's
(19:06):
talk about some relationship things, because we all have had
some relationship issues here. Obviously there's five of us, and
you know, there's a lot of personalities when you bring
a boy into the family, like you were meeting a
whole squad, like we are you know, we're we're coming
for you, like we're looking at everything you do so
like the first question I want to talk about is
(19:27):
like what do you think, like like when you are
talking to a guy, like do you guys ever? Like
I know when I was talking to Corn and stuff
like okay, like I'm gonna have him meet my sisters.
Like that's a big step, right, Like that's how Haley
is right now, She's like okay, because like he meet
my sisters. I think that, Like it's not I think
it's like our whole family because there's five sisters, so
(19:49):
it's like and mom, I kind of count as a
sister too, So like the opinions of all them, obviously
you're gonna take so personal and it's like hopefully they
like I'm like, hopefully they fit in. Obviously our sisters
are just gonna chat your ear officer, it doesn't really matter.
But I think it is like a little intimidating. I
mean Corby even said he was like your whole family,
Like it's a lot sometimes, Like even how we are
(20:10):
talking right now, it's like we're all talking over each other.
We're loud, like we're gonna get on each other's backs
and stuff. So I think, like I'm gonna say a
prayer for me Natalie, especially for older sisters, Like I
think for a boy that's my age, that's probably very intimidating.
And then you throw like Jake, Corbyn and Mike into that,
like they have been a part of the family for
so long that it's like that's their squad too. So
(20:32):
I just feel like that if I was being in
that position as a guy like new to the family,
I'd be like holy, like God. So but like I
think you guys are also making it seem like we're
super intimidating because if you look on it from a different,
like perspective, like I think that we're also a really
fun group. So when people do come in and they
see like how fun we are and like how we
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move as a unit, and then like you throw the
guys in there, and you have Jake and Corvin and
Mike who are also like a complete different like pack themselves.
Like people want to be a part of that, like
in a way because it's so fun and like we
go do fun things and want us five are together,
like it's like a blast. And then the guys too,
(21:14):
like and then we can all go do something while
the guys do their own things. So it's like we've
kind of created a good point. Like I think that's
because I feel when I'm dating someone and they have
like a fun family, like kind of how you are,
Jake Briney, Like you guys are always doing something like
I love like big families and like going to do
things like hanging out with their family and stuff. So
it's like even like my ex, like he always wanted
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to be around our family because we're always going to
do something like it makes it fun, you know what
I mean. I also feel like once you're out of
the group, you're out of the group. There's like no
making your way, like you do one of us wrong exactly,
like let's just not name your name drop here. But
I remember when um, Natalie got cheated on, Yeah, cheating
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on Natalie, which time a lot of times, and I
remember the first time we were like done, Like if
you if you heard like especially me, if you treat
one of my sisters poorly or wrongly or like I
don't think you treat them right, like I don't like you,
Like it's like they deserve like a certain standard, and
I don't feel like if you're giving it to them
like you, they shouldn't, like you're not worth it. So
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Natalie decided this is her personal choice to get back
together with him. Besides besides, and it was like, you know,
he's not invited to the family dinners, like she has
to pick, and she was like that's how it kind
of was, like it was like for a second, yeah,
I think that it was hard because it's like it's
really hard for me and you, especially with like Natalie
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or even broke in the past, like you're gonna cheat
on my sister, Like why do you even if they
don't see their worth of the time, Like you don't
think you can come back into our family thinking like
oh we're cool, Like you just hit up another girl
to come hang out. Why would we be cool with you?
Although when Brooke got cheated on time, the twins through
all of his clothes out and then Brooke decided to
go out and pull them up. I think that shows
(22:57):
that we love And she found out out our house
and we were all home, immediately took his laptop. I
don't care. I'm telling I'm telling you, like I'm ruthless
human being, do not to my sisters wrong. I wrote
cheater five times that night. We found she's six times
that night guys, and he was staying at our house
and he was staying at our house like that's just disrespectful.
And then he's folding. Okay, I'll never forget this. Brooks
(23:19):
like out there folding his clothes because me nearately threw
him out of the guest room. Don't don't you can
stay in our house. And my mom goes out there
and I'm like, Mom, tell her to stop folding his clothes,
like literally run him over with the car. And she's like,
she's a better human, Hannah, She's a better And then
we didn't see Brooke for six months because she chose
um that guy. So that's fun now that they're past
(23:40):
with it. We love brook and Natalie seven times a charm. Okay,
we will be right back with more spicy questions. We
just kind of want to introduce our sisters with you guys,
but this is Twin Talk on the College Athletes Network.
We will be right back. Okay, So we are back
(24:09):
after the little break. We are still here with our sisters,
and we are going to be talking about a lot
of social media in this segment, how our sisters feel
about it, how they feel about hate comments. Obviously, being sisters,
like you get protective, Like I'm very protective of them.
So Haley and I obviously we get a lot of
love on social media, but that comes with hate and
they are not ones to be quiet. Let me tell
(24:29):
you about them, like, they will not be quiet. So
you guys asked a lot of questions on Instagram, had
Hannah said in the first segment, and where you're gonna
get to those right now here is a good one.
How do you guys handle as older younger sisters of
us getting hate comments a lot? Like what do you
feel like when you're like, do you want to attack them?
Like I know we like talked about this in the past,
(24:52):
but like there's a lot of messages in the group chests. Um. Yeah,
So it's definitely hard for us to sit back because
growing up were very like a we take each other's back.
So if someone said something to someone at school, like
I got suspended because someone punched chin on the bus,
So I went to school and beat his booty the
next day. And that's just how we grew up. Like
you talk ship you get hit kind of thing. But
(25:13):
on social media with the presence, you can't really do
that nowadays, um, because you'll get canceled or whatever. You know,
we are connected to Handon Haley, so if we say
something that could go back and portray on them, So
we try to keep it in our group chat. If
I ever got leaked would be really really bad. Um,
but we try to keep it in the group chat.
We do comment back sometimes. Brandy and I really do
(25:34):
tag team and sometimes go off on people that are
a little bit too mean, but um, you know, it's
just kind of same thing. You know, have each other's backs,
and but we do have to watch what we say
because twins have a presence. And I think that I
used to be really good and would not comment back
or I say something. But then I started realizing, like,
(25:54):
mental health is real, and I struggle with mental health
and I know that other people do, and I feel
like negative comments from people just kind of add to that.
And as an older sister, like you don't want to
see that. So I definitely started coming back. And now
if someone wants to say something super stupid, I will
come ten times harder. And so this is more of
(26:14):
a threat than a warning. UM, comment at your own risk.
What about you now, I feel like you're very level.
I just like I feel like people on social media, like,
if you're commenting hate, you're obviously like sad within yourself.
So like, because it would take a lot for me
to sit behind a screen with like user seven seven
zero and be like, oh my god, you stuck at
(26:37):
basketball when I know they're sitting in probably their parents
basement and you guys are playing Division one basketball making
your bag. So it's just like I think about it
that way, and it's like, Okay, well you live a
better life than them, and they're just sad, so let
them comment what they want to comment. Now that I
think you also struggle with this too, is when guys
will ask you be like, oh my gosh, your sisters
like are you you know you're telling me that when
(26:59):
we were home for Christmas? Can you stop talking to
me when? Because I'm recently single. Now, if a boy
like starts the conversation with the are you the kabin
or twin sister, it's immediately over. You're pending on snapchat,
you are blocked that Like I love Handley and they're
(27:19):
my sisters, and I think it's amazing like their stuff,
but that's not my only personality trait. So if you're
going to slide into my d M. So let's not
slide in like that. Exactly. Not Brooke, didn't you have
that problem at the club. I've had it a few times,
(27:40):
but the same thing. It's not only it's not a
personality trait, so exactly except for me, Okay, I'm just
going back to the TikTok thing. There was an incident
like a couple of months back that happened with me,
and it was just like completely like fabricated, like the
things that people were saying, like it just wasn't true.
(28:01):
And I'm not the type of person to go online
and like offend myself for stuff. I'm kind of just
more of like handling in private, like I've always done
my business in private and I just was raised that way. Um,
but just going along with the sisters and saying like
how they're protective, like they wanted to jump on the ship,
like as soon as something happened, like it got sent
to me, like they wanted to jump on the ship
protect me. But it's like I feel like we had
(28:22):
to just like dial back and be like no, you guys,
Like people are gonna want to do stuff to get
um social media fame or like just try to bring
others down and like my sisters, um, they're the first
ones to just like have our backs and like I
just like have never like it's just like so supportive.
But also sometimes you're just like you guys, you cannot
say that like that. One's got to be kept in
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the drafts. Going off of that, in that whole situation,
I'm gonna start with, I have never seen someone reply
so much but then go ahead and speak on a
situation where they weren't repplying that And it's kind of
sad to think like that. People do that in order
to get views and things like that, and you're gonna
take something completely out of context to try to get views. Um.
(29:05):
And what was super funny about that is, like I said,
she was replying with words that she wasn't saying over text,
which if the situation would have occurred and she would
have been straight up with you instead of however many
followers she has, um, it would have ended because you're
not that type of person. So many people like this
cancel culture. The thing that's going around for TikTok and
(29:26):
Instagram is so it's everyone so quiet, and so there's
like a trending video of someone jumping ship on someone
for doing one mistake in their life. For they're blasted
and it's game over, and then everyone's like, oh, I
remember when this person didn't say had to me in
the hallway in high school. Yeah, but it's like you
can't even control that, Like people will literally like say
things and like you you can't defend yourself. Like it's like, okay, whatever,
(29:49):
they can just have it, Like that's just kind of
my mentality, like let them win. Like I'm not gonna
sit here and fight with ignorance. So at the end
of the day, like you can have you know, your views,
you can have that, Like that's not all I'm chasing,
So that's what you want to chase, go for it.
I was just gonna say, like the people commenting on
the video that are like influencers or like content creators,
Like you're commenting on someone getting canceled, but the second
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like that would happen to them or if it happened
to them, Like you know, you wouldn't be commenting on
their video if that happened to them. So it's just
like funny that people jump shipped when like you're in
the wrong, but the second if that would happen to them.
It's like, oh, but they don't even know the other
side of this story. Like people just spoke. That's what's
so like weird about our society that we leave in
like they'll believe one side of the story, but like
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you won't be open minds to me, like, oh there's
another side to another person like that like had a
different opinion on it. But I mean I was just
like thinking about that because I went to my sisters
a lot for that situation. Um, I'm not gonna like
the name drop names. I don't have any hate for anybody,
but um, at the end of the day, like I
just think, don't I mean, at the end of the day,
just be a better person and like don't try to
(30:53):
bring others down and make yourself feel better for a
couple of views, Like is that canna help you sleep
better at night? So I don't know. And let's add
in that you apologize exactly and then and then she
and then she's lacked me as if like after like
she saw like it was just it's just bad. It's
just like tells you what kind of every human she
is and that's not who I am. You have to
pick and choose your battles now too. I feel like
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nowadays it's like either people want to put you in
a position where they can take advantage of you and
like put change the words or something like that situation,
or they want something from you. So it's like one
or the other. And I think we became really good
at just understanding, Like okay, no, so who's excited because
we do have our first sister wedding. Our first sister
(31:35):
is getting married and she got engaged Brittany August in August,
and we all were out there for it. But you guys,
like I cannot wait for her about Tott party. It's
in freaking Nashville. It's gonna be so fun. You're supposed
to be more excited. I'm so excited for the wedding
just because like you guys are like so like you
guys are such simple people, you and Jake, like I meaning,
(31:56):
we're just talking about this Sather, Like you guys do
not really care about all the like you guys are
just chill. The wedding is like crazy. I don't know
if their wedding then it was gonna be insane, Like
you're married the best and they have like all the
bells and whistles, like they're having like the full SHEBANGI
this is how I can say what I know. But
she she means that like they don't need a lot
(32:17):
to have fun, like fun no matter what. The wedding
venue is going to be insane. But like at the
end of the day, Brainy and Jake are just like
such fun people and like Jake like just hearing like
I don't even know, like just being able to like
witness them and like come together, like because we've known
Jake so long, I just feel like it's going to
be so fun. Yeah, I meant just like it would
be in the front yard, it would be fun still,
like you guys would still have a good time, Yeah, exactly,
Like Brooke would be like I'm not getting married, would
(32:39):
be like Brandy would be like, no, like let's crack
over some white cloths called at night. You know what
I mean. I think it's fun, but I think it's
also stressful because like we've talked about like getting married
for so long, like as sisters and so like there's
so many things that I want to, like you know,
like pay vow and like see the picture. But it's
also hard because you have to be realistic and limit
(33:01):
yourself sometimes and then it's very stressful and overwhelming. And
my maid of honor really I played wedding and I'm
planning your pat and Natalie is a maid of honor.
E no, she's the chief and dinner the other night
we were not nominously, but we're you guys, like the
pictures or stuff, like her vision is gonna be like,
(33:22):
it's so cute. I can't wait to vlogging and sure that. Dude, Yeah,
it's gonna be so fun. Thank you. Alright, guys, that
was a lot of talking, a lot of girl chat
in this episode. That was Brooke, Brandy and Natalie, three
of the closest people to Handah and I. You guys
got a little taste of what it's like growing up
in our household. Clearly it was crazy. We wouldn't trade
(33:43):
it for the world, though. Um those are our people,
So make sure you guys tune into the next Eplica episode.
This is twin Talk on College Athletes Network m H.
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