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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Ring, Ring Ring.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
It's the end of a little era.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
I've quite enjoyed myself.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Yeah, this has been a lot of fun. We're not
just talking about the Olympics. This is the end of
season one of Two Guys Five Rings. With this episode,
as we look forward to more Olympics in the future,
we must also look back at Two Guys Five Rings,
which has really taken not only the media by storm.
I think that it's changed who we are and how
we look at the Olympics, wouldn't you say?
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Bowen, Absolutely, I have never been more invested in the
materials of the mattresses in the Olympic village than I
have since this podcast. I've learned so much. We've had
such a great team that has helped us along the way.
We appreciate you all. I mean, what will you take
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away and cherish the most after this?
Speaker 2 (01:00):
You got to meet Greg Luganis I mean, that was amazing.
You got to go back and listen to that episode
in that interview if you haven't yet, I mean that
was probably I would say that was the highlight of
it for me, was getting to connect with him and
just such an icon and such a legend. And yeah,
and of course, always sharing time with my sister and
really really connecting over world events. I think we got
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so much closer doing this.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
We did, and we got to talk about really important
things like Billie Eilish, like.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Lady Gaga Ao Ao, we smoke him.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
And of course Celine Dion's wait, that's rhymes. I don't
know why wait, hold on a second. No, no, the
fact that get thrown into international court for this.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Oh, the producers are laughing, they're sending emojis, they're cracking. Oh.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Now, and of course Celin Dion, Hell, that's so insane.
My French Canadian ass is going that they're taking my
card away. Well, it's not about French anymore, okay, Oh,
it's about.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Italian In twenty twenty six, it's the Milan Courtina Winter
Olympics and Paralympics or twenty twenty six Milan Quurtina Olympic
Winter Games. Baby, it's gonna be the first Olympics winter
or summer officially featuring multiple host cities.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
It's amazing. It's very I would say, Demi Levado and
Nick Jonas going on tour together.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Yeah, in that it's more than.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
One, in that it's more and in that the world
will gather and we will remember it, and we will
remember it for all time like we are in Everyone
involved is very talented, that's true. You can't deny it.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
In that way. It's a lot like the Demi Levada
Nick Jonas Tour.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
More than thirty five hundred athletes expected to compete from
ninety three countries across both Olympics and Paralympics, one hundred
and sixteen events in sixteen sports in the Winter Olympics,
six sports in Paralympic Winter Games.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
And a new Olympic sport. Yes, yeah, there's ski mountaineering
sort of the Breaking of the Winter Olympics, which was
a part of the twenty twenty Winter Youth Olympic Games.
And ski mountaineering. Competitors ski uphill and downhill and use
mountaineering abilities to race through snow covered mountains. This is
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pretty crazy. Ski mountaineering is particularly popular in Italy and
its roots can be traced to the first crossing of
the Alps on skis. So this is uphill downhill skiing.
It's going to take strength, it's going to take determination,
it's going to take a whole lot of grit. Grit
seven more Olympic events overall compared to the one hundred
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and nine contested at the twenty twenty two Beijing Winter Games,
including the addition of eight new events and the elimination
of one event. Uh oh, sorry, alpine skiing. You know,
mixed team, You're not in it. There's three ski mountaineering events,
two additional events in freestyle skiing men's and women's dual moguls,
one additional event in luge, by far the scariest Olympic sport.
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There's now separate men's and women's doubles events instead of
one event open to both genders, an additional skeleton event
added to mixed event, and one additional ski jump event added,
which is the women's large hill.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
This is so specific when it comes to skiing.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Yeah, can you talk about this.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Well as an amateur skier and we all have to
be if you grew up in Colorado, so gosh. I
had my French Canadian card revoked for thinking LeAnn reimsong
with something by Celine Dion. I'm going to get my
Colorado car revoked for thinking that ski jump was. For
not knowing what skeleton is? What is skeleton?
Speaker 2 (05:04):
That's a really good question. I feel like we would
know what if we saw it. It's kind of like
when someone doesn't know who Stanley Tucci is, Like you
would literally.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Who doesn't know who Stanley Tucci is?
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Some gaze out there. Some people might Okay, so is
Sean is weighing in and saying before we get into
Stanley Tucci too much more, he wants us to know
that skeleton is a winter sport featured in the Winter Olympics,
where the competitor rides headfirst and pro okay, this is
this is I thought this is what it was, head first,
face down on a flat sled normally run on an
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ice track that allows us let the gain speed by gravity.
So this is like one of those like true death sleds.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
This is like the louge.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Yeah, it's like lose but loose. You lay on your
back with your like so you're you know, your first.
The only difference is like you're laying on your god
darn stomach face first skeleton. Can you imagine there's something
about lying on your stomach as you barrel down a
mountain slope that makes it feel at least a million
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times more dangerous than if you were just laying on
your back. First of all, I would rather be on
my stomach than on my back, and I'll just say that.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
I'm just I'm just gonna leave that there. I'd rather
be on my back than my stomach.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Really, yeah, stop bowen, stop stop bowing. Stop it. I'm serious,
you don't stop stop it now stop. Other smaller changes
have been made to some of the events themselves, including
for the first time ever, men and women will race
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the same distance across the cross country skiing competition.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Thank god, equality at last, we have achieved total equality
across the genders.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
We need equality, We need parody.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
We need cross country distance parody now, and we will
have it in Milan for the first time. I can't
believe that men and women's legs are the same. You
cannot dispute that I see some amabs out there with
with more feminine legs than the afabs, and I see
some afabs with mete muscle legs, and I go go off.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
All legs, all legs equal. What else? The ski jumping
team format has reduced from four athletes to two, with
competition held over three rounds. You know, so there's a
lot different And just to speak about what's going to
be going down in terms of the culture. Milan will
host the opening ceremony as well as figure skating, hockey,
short track and speed skating, and then all across a
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bunch of other cities is going to be different events.
So we're talking Milan, Livigno, Bormeo, te Sero, Predazzo and Trcelva. Verona.
Am I saying all this correctly?
Speaker 1 (07:53):
I think you are bro Vo brought Visimo to Matt
Rogers for that beautiful Italian pronunciation. Verona. Do you think
Romeo and Juliet will make it appear?
Speaker 2 (08:03):
I think so. So Verona is hosting the closing ceremony
of both the Olympic and Paralympic Winter Games. So Milan
will host the opening, Verona will host the closing, and
we better see some Romeo and Juliet play.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
And what about Milan. I want to see Donnatella strut
down the runway.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Gaga again, Gaga again. Let me just say this out loud,
just because I know what happens when we do often
these things will just end up happening. Lady Gaga is
just an Italian girl from New York, So why would
you not send her to Italy to be part of
the games. I mean she is an Italian girl, that's
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number one.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
She was in a ski outfit in House of Gucci.
She knows what it's like to be on the mountains.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
She knows all about it. She's been there and back.
We need to watch House of Gucci again.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
I don't know that we do. Let's talk about some
athletes to watch from USA. We have Isibolevito in figure skating.
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She'll be just Weakshi of her nineteenth birthday during the
twenty twenty six game, so that means right now she
is seventeen. Wow, and it's going to be held in
the hometown of her mother, Kiya Ragarberi Livito, who was
raised Isibo as a single parent. Levito is the twenty
twenty two World Junior champion, twenty twenty three US Champion,
twenty twenty four World silver medallist in the senior ranks.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
I think the name on everyone's lips is gonna be
Isibo Isabo.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
I mean, that's a great name.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Are you kidding me? We are gonna be hearing Isabolevito
like that is going to be the name on everyone's lips.
It's too good to say nothing of Ilia Molina. Ilia
Molina figure skater as well, the reigning world champion and
two time reigning US champion. Molina will be twenty one
years old during the twenty twenty six milan COURTEENA Winter Games.
Is the only skater ever to lend a quadruple axel,
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the most difficult jump ever attempted.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
I didn't think it was possible. It's giving someone Biles,
which has four and a half rotations, okay. He is
coached by his parents, Roman Skornikov and Tatiana melaninaa both
figure skaters for Ruzbekistan at the nineteen ninety eight and
two thou and two Winter Games. Tatyala Milanina is also
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the nineteen ninety eight Grand Prix Final and ninety nine
four Continence champion, and her father, Ilia's maternal grandfather, Valerie Milanan,
is also a coach. This is giving. I'm sorry, Nepo baby,
but when a Nepo baby can do a quadruple axel,
it doesn't matter. Competing for the US, we should say,
competing for the US of course, the land of Nepo babies.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Mmmm. Oh yeah, it's our number one export.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
But iliya, if this man could do a quadruple axle.
He can say that he can he.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Can't maybe if he's gay. A lot of these figure skaters,
I'm like, why are you straight? Like there's so many
straight male figures. That's a lie.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
No, no, I think ilia. Let's see.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
My favorite figure skaters ever were the Canadian couple remember
who that they were robbed of their go medal, so
then they ended up getting one because of the Russian
judge was cheating, or though the French judge was treated
was cheating, the French judge was cheating, and so they
were they were, and I remember they I remember hearing
that they were together and I was like, oh my god, wow.
But then they've since broken up, did you know? Well anyway,
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Jordan Stoltz is a speed skater from the USA. Stilts,
who will be twenty one years old during the twenty
twenty six mil On Courtina Winter Games, is the youngest
ever single distance world champion in history. Stilts first tried
speed skating on the frozen pond behind the family's house
after watching our icon Apollo and oh No compete at
the twenty ten Vancouver Winter Olympics. And let's just say
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many young people were inspired watching Apollo ens on no
at that Olympics. I'll let people fill in the blanks there, Yes.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Yes, inspired to do all the kinds of athletic feats.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Yep, getting physical.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Ope, We've got Jesse Dickens and cross country skiing, the
most accomplished US cross country skier in history, with three
Olympic medals, two overall World Cup titles, six championship medals.
Mikayla Schiffrin also for USA Alpine Skiing, having a mass
ninety seven World Cup wins at the end of the
twenty twenty three eight twenty four World Cup season, Mikayla
Schiffrin is the winningest alpine skier of all time, male
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or female. She's the first athlete in the history of
the World Cup to win in all six disciplines slalom, giant, slalam, parallel, slalom, alpine, combined,
Super g and downhill. Shiffrin's mom is Eileen, served as
her daughter's first coach and still works at Mikayla to
this day.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
I had to say all these names have like star quality.
I mean, Mikayla Schiffrin, Jesse Diggins, Jordan Stoltz, Is abou
Levito come on, come on, I'm not over it.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
I'm still not over Isibo is the one to watch.
And let's just say there might be a new sort
of Adam Rapon figure. I hope for a new Johnny
We're Adam Rapon. I want a new gay icon to
come out of this Winter Games. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
I also have to say, while we're so excited about
the twenty twenty six Milan Courtina Games, it really like,
I think we've discussed it on the podcast before, but
we continue to wrap our heads around how the Los
Angeles Olympics in twenty twenty eight, the Summer Olympics in
twenty twenty eight are going to happen. Because Bowen literally
was driving yesterday in LA on a Monday afternoon, like
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when there was supposed to be no traffic and it
was hellish. It's like, I give it all up to
God when it comes to logistically figuring out the twenty
twenty eight Summer Olympic Games, because there's so many reasons
for us to see greatness and glory, but I wonder
if we're going to be seeing just traffic and pain.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
I'm gonna say this. Let's say volleyball is supposed to
start at eleven am on a Tuesday, and let's say
on the west side, roll the cameras. No one's in
the seats, athletes aren't even there. How, what's the actual
start time? You think? What time do you think people
will actually start playing? If it's at eleven am noon? No,
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that is so generous.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Two point thirty three o'clock.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
Yes, it's Los Angeles we're talking about.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Let me tell you something, especially because all of these
venues are going to be used at the same time.
Just go with me here. Last week I went to
the Olivia Rodrigo concert at the Kia Forum. There was
also a football game happening at Sofi Stadium, and also
down the block, I believe that Bruno Mars was performing.
There was no way to move in any direction. So anyway,
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like there are tons of venues that are going to
be used across the city, they're just all going to
be used at pretty much the same time, and the
city's not made for it. But I you know, Karen Bass,
we're gonna sing.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
We're gonna see Karen Bass. We have faith in you.
The nice sustainable thing is that there are no new
venues built. I think that's the historic thing first time
in the history that no new permanent onions will be built.
And I want to talk really quickly about the new
sports that will be added. Breaking will unfortunately not return.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
But oh, it's officially not returning.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
It's officially not returning. Here are the new sports on
the Olympic program, baseball and softball. They have been part
of several Olympic Games, most recently in twenty twenty. So
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they took one Olympic game off in the summer and
now they're going to be back for twenty twenty eight.
Cricket makes his second Olympic appearance, returning off your nets
and said, one hundred and twenty eight years. Last time,
if you do the math, was in nineteen hundred in Paris.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
What else do we have? Lacrosse? Similar to cricket, lacrosse
returns to the Olympics after more than a century, but
this time in a faster paced six is format on
a smaller field, sort of akin to rugby seven's lacrosse
and its traditional tennis side format was a metal sport
in both the nineteen oh four and nineteen oh eight
Olympic Games. It also was a demonstration sport in the
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nineteen twenty eight, nineteen thirty two, and nineteen forty eight Olympics.
It's honestly so shocking to me that lacrosse hasn't been
a part of the Olympic conversation.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Because it's such a good sport.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Growing up on Long Island, I don't know if lacrosse
was huge, Honey, Colorado had the Mammoth, the team was
called the Mammoth and those games were electrifying. Yeah. No,
lacrosse is no joke, to the point where even me,
someone that was not I, would have had no impulse
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to play. I had a lacrosse stick and really tried
to get good at it because it was taking over
the culture. So honestly, that's like a blind spot for
me that I did not know that lacrosse wasn't just
always a thing. Maybe we were just from two areas
that really embraced it.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Yeah, I think so. I think so. But it's a
fun it's a great sport. I'm very happy that it's
returning to LA. Flag football making its Olympic debut, very
very very cool.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Yeah, and we got squash squashly making its Olympic debut
in La Although squash was a demonstration sport at the
twenty eighteen Youth Olympic Games in Buenos Aires. Buenos Aires,
para climbing has been added to the Paralympic Game Sports program,
bringing the total number of Paralympic sports to twenty three.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Aside from the new sports, new events on the program
coastal rowing beach sprint format. Meanwhile, the modern pentathlon events
will no longer include the equestrian discipline instead feature obstacle racing.
I mean pentathlon crazy concept. Oh yeah, you gotta ride
a horse too. Wait what now you don't anymore? No,
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no longer will include the equestrian discipline, but you gotta
do obstacle racing, which is wow.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
I mean, listen, I'm not a child, and the concept
of an obstacle course doesn't do what it used to
do to me. You used to be able to say
the word obstacle course to me and I'd be like,
let's go.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Not anymore.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
I loved obstacles. Now I'm kind of just like less obstacles.
I'll do a course.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
I'll do a course.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
I'll do a regular course.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
All my obstacles are up here. I'm putting to my
head exactly mental.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Did you know I did. One of my track events
was the steeple chase. Do you know what that is?
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Yes, I did the steeple chase like three years a road.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
It's a distance race on the track. It's like usually
thirty two hundred meters, but you have to do a hurdle.
Two hurdles. One is a regular hurdle and one is
a hurdle that you like. You step up on the
hurdle and use it to jump over a tiny little
water hazard and you get a little wet when you
do it. And I remember I was so excited to
do this and it was by far the hardest thing
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I've ever seen. Wow at the time. At the time
and physically, I was like, wow, that was so much
harder because you think about running two miles in general,
it sounds difficult. Now, ad you got to jump over
a damn lake, and honey, that's bringing your mile time
up at least if.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
There's a lake involved, at least two minutes.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
And we're adding big seconds.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
And for the last time, what was your mile?
Speaker 2 (19:22):
My mile time in high school was four thirty six.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
I'm gonna miss hearing you say that. Maybe I'll just
have to keep saying it.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
But no listen before we close this podcast out this season,
I have two guys. Five Rings comes to a close.
I want to know, in terms of the opening ceremony,
what do you want to see in LA? Just draw
up your perfect program, who performs, and what does it
look like.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
I'm just thinking out loud. I want a Bears in
Space moment. I want Acbar to have a whole sort
of like moment during the opening ceremonies. I want I
just want the floor to be dirty and carpeted for
that time. I want the theme of the LA Olympics
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opening ceremony to be dirty carpeted floors, which is an
LA thing. It's not a New York thing, specifically, it's Ala.
I'm staying at the Chateau Mormount right now. Dirty carpets
are everywhere, and let's see. I want Gwen Stefani to
come out and do her Christmas songs, because why not?
That'd be kind of fun.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
I want Oh, no doubt would be amazing. Actually, I mean,
like I just saw them in Coachella. They were incredible.
No doubt as an opening ceremony in LA would be
really good.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
Yeah. I want there to be a Joan Didian Retrospective
as performed by Katie Perry him Katy Perry. I'm sorry, Yes,
Katy Perry. I think Heim should have a moment.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Katy Prairie featuring him doing Katy Perry. Hi.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Yes you. I agree with everything you said, nothing added.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
I want them. I want the who shot party in
the USA. Ye, it's a party in the essay that
would make it perfect. And I also think it's the
perfect way for us to end with that wish this podcast.
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You are truly my sister in sports. I didn't know
you were beforehand, by now I know you are. Do
you have anything to say to me?
Speaker 1 (21:34):
You are truly my sister in international relations because sports
and international relations are what the Olympics and Paralympics are about.
And I have had the privilege of traveling to international
destinations with you. I see your character come through, I
see your curiosity open, I see your spirit just receive
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the wonders of this planet. And that is also what
the Olympics are about. And I have had so much fun,
got so much fun with you. Let me tell you something.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
You and I we are an international relation. And that
is a rule of culture. It is rule of culture.
Number one hundred.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
You and I are an international relation. This has been
and will continue to be to Guys five Rings, Thank
you so much for listening.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
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to watch the twenty twenty four Paris Paralympic Games August
twenty eighth to September eighth on.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
NBC NP Park. We end every episode with the song