August 30, 2025 • 18 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to Dirty Rush The Truth about Sorority Life with
your hosts me Gia Judice, Daisy Kent, and Jennifer Kessler. Hey, guys,
and welcome back to another week of Dirty Rush. Rush
is going around all over the country, so we want
to tell you, guys what goes in to the preparation
(00:24):
of rush before it begins. Candace is going to tell
us about the pre rush process. She is starting rush tomorrow,
so she is going to tell us about all the
preparation that she's been doing to get ready to bring
in these p and ms.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Hi. So, I'm on exec in my sorority at Berkeley.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
So we've been here for the last eight days.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
We move in one day earlier than the rest of
the members of my sorority, and basically we run through
every single day of sorority recruitment.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
So we have like the first two days that we.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Call unity, the second day which is the Sisterhood Round.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
There's philanthropy, pref all that type of stuff. Yes, in
the past eight days.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
It's basically been like a nine to five job teaching
all of our new members the rituals for each round
and kind of how it works, teaching them about bump groups.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Oh my god, bump groups brings me back. I literally
wrote it on my hand, like my name, my my,
like my group's name, and I would cross out like
each name, and then I would be like, okay, So
I you would associate yourself by number? Is that how
you guys do it? Like for your bump group? Okay,
(01:44):
by letter? So we did it by number. So it
was like one, two, three, Typically, like what there's three
or four people to a bump bump group mm hm,
And so it would be like, okay, Gia, you're after Mikaela,
and then there's Avery and then okay, then one is
going to bump three and then now three is going
to bump two. And I would I would just they
(02:08):
would look at me and I'd be like, okay, it's
my time to go out.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Goshion locations.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
It's like blue couch by left door behind, compose it outside,
So you have to remember every single part and you
mess it up, like you might be stuck talking to
the same girl for the entire forty minute round. So
hopefully it all goes to plant. But it's basically been
a nine to five job for the last seven days.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Of course, and then I feel like you could also,
you know, rely on the other people in your group
to kind of help you out and to kind of
guide you. But I love the hand system. You just
write a little write some stump on your hand.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Gosh, I like I would sweat it off. I would
nearly be dripping down my arm. I'd be sweating it off.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
I get so nervous with that type of stuff. It's
just like no internal dialogue and.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Art, even like reminders on your phone, like okay, now go.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
To hear and but they actually take away our phones
during recruitment, so you, like, if you wanted to sneak
your phone like in like the shorts that you're wearing
under your dress, like that would be a major no no.
So they make us like leave our phones in like
a basket in the kitchen, so you read the sheet
once of where you need to be and the girl
(03:24):
that you're talking to, and then you better remember it
or else you're gonna mass them. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Well, I don't remember if we got our phones taken away.
That's crazy. I don't remember.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
So your phoneless the entire day for all of the rounds.
So hopefully you get to catch up with.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Everyone afterwards, but you, yeah, there's no time in between.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
I feel like the biggest thing is getting those bump
groups down, Oh.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
My gosh, seriously.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
And then I feel like the people who are crafting
these bump groups, it is so meticulous. It's like you
want this, say, you can't have the same type of
personality in the same group. You don't want the same grade. Coincidentally,
like one of the people in my bunk group is
from my same hometown, which was absolutely no. No, Yeah,
it's the different personalities, the different locations, different majors, all
(04:16):
that type of stuff.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Because you're supposed to go into it kind of blind,
and especially going to Rutgers and being from New Jersey,
Rutgers is uh big ten in Jersey, so everyone knew everyone,
so it was so difficult. There were some of my
best friends in my sorority that were from my hometown.
And then you just have the surrounding towns from my
(04:39):
town that also went to Rutgers, Like Rutgers was flooded
with people from my town Fairfield, East, Hanover, so many
surrounding towns that were near my town, and you just
hear of familiar faces and people and this one knows
this one, so like small world, everyone knows everyone, and
(05:02):
it was super difficult. I give whoever does those bump
groups a lot of credit seriously.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
And then as a P and M, when you're going
into a house, if you know someone from your hometown,
it's that.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Whole thing of like do I acknowledge that I know them?
Am I not supposed to acknowledge that I know them?
What if I have to talk to them? Am I
supposed to?
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Because I feel like I'm saying, like, oh, that person's
from my hometown.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
There is And then if you know this person, you
also have to monitor what you're saying to them because
during rush, you know, you're not allowed to talk about
going out and social life and boys, and it's so
difficult when you're standing there and you know the person
and you're gonna be like, so, how's your chem class going?
(05:47):
When it's like, you know, you're already on such a
different level where you're almost like you almost get like,
I don't know, I feel like when that happened, you're
almost like, Okay, screw the questions like how how is
the mixer yesterday? Like are you enjoying your freshman year?
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Yes? If they're chilled. Definitely.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
I can't imagine having the same traditional conversation with someone
you already know.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
But because cal is largely in state.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
I mean, obviously we have international out of state, but
people are from California, so you're going to know people,
and it's just that whole thing of like do I
acknowledge that I know you? Or do I acknowledge that
I know your friend? And then you risk giving that
member like a weird vibe that like you know someone here,
so you think you might.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Belong well one hundred percent, because then when you also
get into things like that, you don't want to give
the potential new members false hope, and then that's when
it gets very difficult and tricky.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Yeah, I feel like there's just been all of these
crazy rules that we've been having to.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
Remind all of our new members.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
As they go through this work week, of like you
can't let them take anything out of the house. You
can't let them take a napkin, even if they you like,
everything has to stay in because it's we would get
such a large fine for it, so you can't really
do anything.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
No, definitely, I completely agree. Do you want to talk
about maybe each day? Sure, because I feel like the
bump groups, no matter like, the bump groups are the
most important part. I feel like to preparing the newest
class is typically responsible, but sometimes I feel like I
did it my junior year as well, and I want
(07:29):
to say even my senior year.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Yes, so pretty much all of our active members participate
in RUSH.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Yeah, they're mixed in evenly.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
So for the last seven days we've been going through
how to bump correctly. We've been going through run throughs
of each day. So typically on the first two days
or the days where the PI ANDISS get to talk
to the most amount of girls.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
That's like the biggest speed dating day. I feel what
is it? It's like, is it five minute rounds?
Speaker 2 (07:58):
So the entire round I believe is thirty five minutes,
But you're talking to four girls and you need time.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
You need a lot of time to come into the house,
for the.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Girls to do the chant or whatever, and time for
them to leave because of your late PhD will find you.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
So it's like drill sergeant day by day.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
And so for the last seven days we've spent spending
the entire day going through each party. So like we'll
do a unity, we'll do a Sisterhood day, will do
a Filo day, We'll do preth and we just repeat
those over and over and over, and it's almost like
drill Sergeant, our VP of recruitment. She's awesome, but she
definitely has to be stern and strict. But also I
(08:37):
feel like, because recruitment is about to start, obviously, the
dry period is upon us, and so I feel like
everyone was really eager to go out every night and
be active in the social scene before they could no longer,
and so like a lot of people are showing up
a little bit hungover, but at least they're having a
good time.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
No, definitely, because then while recruitment is going on, nobody
can go out, nobody can drink, and then that's a
big risk for even your potential new members because while
they're going through the rush process, they also need to
participate in dry week as well as members that are
already in sororities. So it's pretty dry on campus, I
(09:20):
feel like for that week, or for at least whoever
participates in Greek.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Life seriously, And I feel like even if you were
to drop something off at your boyfriend's house, if you
lived at a frat, if someone got a picture of you,
you would be totally done for. I feel like everyone's
super strict about that and they want to hold other sororities.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
To the rule.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
So I feel like you're always looking over your shoulder
being like I really hope no one sees me, or
like no one takes this out of context.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
No, one hundred percent, one hundred percent. There definitely is
a lot that goes into it, and the people on
the back end, especially exec who are really deep diving
planning each day, making sure everything is coordinated. It's a
lot of pressure.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Seriously, I feel like all of our exec has been
working all summer to get this all prepped, especially like
our VP of Recruitment and so she is living and
breathing recruitment, and even our house manager, like we have
a whole day dedicated to scrubbing the walls with like
mister clean magic erasers get rid of discusss, to like
(10:24):
mow the lawn to get rid of the leave this.
I feel like there's so much more preparation than just
memorizing party flows. You have to clean up your house,
You have to check everyone's room to make sure they
look acceptable and clean.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
There's just so many things that we all.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
And there's the house tours and everything.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Yes, teaching the new members who haven't done the house
tours what rooms to show, what rooms not to show.
Definitely don't take them by the bathrooms that they don't
need to see, the laundry room, like yeah, if you
wouldn't even think about.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
So there's definitely a lot of preparation that we've been doing.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Do you kind of want to walk through each day
and kind of just explain what each day looks like
during the recruit during recruitment, Yes, and then kind of
like explain like what preparation is like mainly instilled for
each day.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
So the way that Berkeley does recruitment is our first
day of recruitment is on the first day of.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
Classes, which is today.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
So today the p and ms are meeting with their rocas,
meeting the rest of their group, kind of getting acclimated,
but they're not actually visiting any of the houses. That
happens tomorrow and the next day, which is called the
Unity Round. So the Unity Round, the way that Berkeley
does it is they get to go to every single house.
It's split up over two days because they believe we
have about thirteen houses.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
I think Rockers had about the same.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Yeah, so it's about thirty five minute parties. Every girl
has to go into every single house. You're talking to
about four girls. It's very, very quick. It's the speed
dating round. After each round, each collegiate will go and
vote on their P and M on an online platform,
and then it's just round after round after round. So
after those first two days of Unity days, we'll get
(12:28):
callbacks for Sisterhood round, so that round is only one day.
I feel like most p and ms go to six
or eight houses.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
That's like the maxim that you can get. And that
is the day that.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
We do our house tours. So you're mostly talking to
two girls on this day, much longer conversations. They're getting
to know you better, You're getting to know our house
kind of, how our sisterhood is in general, how strong
it is. And then after all of those rounds, we're
voting as well. So then callbacks for the third day,
our philanthropy round. As each round goes on and on,
(13:02):
they get longer and longer and you're having more personable, personalized,
intimate conversations with the P and M. It's not as
dating as Unity.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Exactly, and as each round goes on, if you are
forming a connection with this person, let's just say that
you have talked to now since day one. So then
PREF round is the last round where you will talk
to this girl for forty five minutes, and this is
(13:32):
like your time to shine, Like you have to seal
the deal on getting this girl during that round because
she's either going to pick your sorority or another one,
or she could suicide bid, which is obviously really scary
because the sorority also needs to want you to So
(13:53):
during that whole thing, the last round, Philanthropy round is
really the round where you are trying to grab the
girls that you want.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Yes, And there is such a steep drop off from
Philanthropy to PREF night you have to basically cut the girls.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
That you have returning in half, if not more. And
so the.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Girls coming back on preth we are assuming we one
hundred percent want them. If you're back on PREF, it's
because we want you and we're trying to gauge if
you want us. And then on preth you're talking to
a girl you've talked to.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
In a different round.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
It's very very rare that you would ever be preffed
by somebody who hadn't talked to in an earlier round,
So that also goes into matching. So after you vote
on a P and M, you can write in your notes, Hey,
I think she would do great with blah blah blah.
So it's never a coincidence after those first few rounds
who you talk to, because we're actively thinking about who
as a sister you would be compatible with and who
(14:50):
could get you to join the house. So after PREF,
I mean pretty much all the rules are out the window.
It depends sorority by sorority, but the way that my
sorority does is no questions off the table. Obviously, there's
things that you're told to avoid during the other rounds
of recruitment. You're not supposed to talk about boys, you're
not supposed to talk about parties, you're not supposed to
(15:10):
talk about politics, all the things people tell you not
to talk about. But I feel like on PREF you
want them to have a transparent view of what the
sorority is and actually know what they're getting into, and
so if it's really not for them, then they don't join,
and they end up joining the house. That's better for them.
And like the way that Berkeley PHC talks about suicide
(15:31):
bidding is like it should never ever ever happen because
I believe it moves you down lower on the house's list,
so they could still want you, but for some reason
it interferes because you didn't rank both houses.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
So we always tell people like, even if.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
You know you want this one house and you really
really don't want the other one, to still rank the
second house second, because it helps your chances of getting
into the house that you want to be in.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
But I'm not sure if it's that way everywhere.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Yeah, I mean does not recommend it either to suicide bid,
but I don't think I've ever heard that, which is interesting.
But then I mean, that makes total sense because sometimes
people who suicide bid and then don't get the sorority
they want, and then later on find out that the
sorority actually did want them, but then something got messed
up in the computer system. At that point, it's like
(16:20):
almost too little, too late, and then he needs to
hope that they'll offer you a COB in the future.
So it definitely does get sticky. It's definitely not recommended
at all to suicide bid, like at all but yeah,
but that's also interesting that you guys say all bets
off the table during pref round because when I but
(16:44):
also I think it was kind of like an unspoken
rule at that point, especially at Rutgers, like, Okay, we
made it through this entire thing. You're also talking to
this girl now for longer periods of time each round.
By pref round, it's like, Okay, we need to spice
it up a little bit, Like this is getting a
(17:05):
little boring. I need to start talking to this girl
about some fun things and just fun activities instead of
just asking her like what she wants to do with
her life. So I mean, I totally get that, and
I feel like I also navigated more towards being open
with the girls that I was preffing, because you want
(17:29):
them to also know that they're going to have a
great time and there is a lot of you know,
fun moments in the house and it's not always so
serious and we don't always have to be so you know,
politically correct while speaking to them during recruitment, Yes, because
then you almost like you almost start to feel like
a robot. It's like, oh my god, I'm simp I'm
(17:52):
talking about the same thing over and over and over again.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
Yes, And the p and ms can definitely tell when
you're holding back, or you're not saying what you want
to say, or you're having a very surface level conversation.
So I feel like if you then the rules a
little bit, they feel connected to you and they feel
connected to the house, and it just gives more of
the transparent vibe that like, what you see is what
you're going to get and you're gonna be happy with it.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Yeah, guys, So the biggest thing during the recruitment process
if you are training for recruitment right now, is definitely
your bump groups. Your bump groups determine your entire routine
during recruitment, and then it just comes down to being
your authentic self and winning these girls to choose your sorority.
Welcome to Dirty Rush The Truth about Sorority Life with
your hosts me Gia Judice, Daisy Kent, and Jennifer Kessler. Hey, guys,
and welcome back to another week of Dirty Rush. Rush
is going around all over the country, so we want
to tell you, guys what goes in to the preparation
(00:24):
of rush before it begins. Candace is going to tell
us about the pre rush process. She is starting rush tomorrow,
so she is going to tell us about all the
preparation that she's been doing to get ready to bring
in these p and ms.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Hi. So, I'm on exec in my sorority at Berkeley.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
So we've been here for the last eight days.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
We move in one day earlier than the rest of
the members of my sorority, and basically we run through
every single day of sorority recruitment.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
So we have like the first two days that we.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Call unity, the second day which is the Sisterhood Round.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
There's philanthropy, pref all that type of stuff. Yes, in
the past eight days.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
It's basically been like a nine to five job teaching
all of our new members the rituals for each round
and kind of how it works, teaching them about bump groups.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Oh my god, bump groups brings me back. I literally
wrote it on my hand, like my name, my my,
like my group's name, and I would cross out like
each name, and then I would be like, okay, So
I you would associate yourself by number? Is that how
you guys do it? Like for your bump group? Okay,
(01:44):
by letter? So we did it by number. So it
was like one, two, three, Typically, like what there's three
or four people to a bump bump group mm hm,
And so it would be like, okay, Gia, you're after Mikaela,
and then there's Avery and then okay, then one is
going to bump three and then now three is going
to bump two. And I would I would just they
(02:08):
would look at me and I'd be like, okay, it's
my time to go out.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Goshion locations.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
It's like blue couch by left door behind, compose it outside,
So you have to remember every single part and you
mess it up, like you might be stuck talking to
the same girl for the entire forty minute round. So
hopefully it all goes to plant. But it's basically been
a nine to five job for the last seven days.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Of course, and then I feel like you could also,
you know, rely on the other people in your group
to kind of help you out and to kind of
guide you. But I love the hand system. You just
write a little write some stump on your hand.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Gosh, I like I would sweat it off. I would
nearly be dripping down my arm. I'd be sweating it off.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
I get so nervous with that type of stuff. It's
just like no internal dialogue and.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Art, even like reminders on your phone, like okay, now go.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
To hear and but they actually take away our phones
during recruitment, so you, like, if you wanted to sneak
your phone like in like the shorts that you're wearing
under your dress, like that would be a major no no.
So they make us like leave our phones in like
a basket in the kitchen, so you read the sheet
once of where you need to be and the girl
(03:24):
that you're talking to, and then you better remember it
or else you're gonna mass them. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Well, I don't remember if we got our phones taken away.
That's crazy. I don't remember.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
So your phoneless the entire day for all of the rounds.
So hopefully you get to catch up with.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Everyone afterwards, but you, yeah, there's no time in between.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
I feel like the biggest thing is getting those bump
groups down, Oh.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
My gosh, seriously.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
And then I feel like the people who are crafting
these bump groups, it is so meticulous. It's like you
want this, say, you can't have the same type of
personality in the same group. You don't want the same grade. Coincidentally,
like one of the people in my bunk group is
from my same hometown, which was absolutely no. No, Yeah,
it's the different personalities, the different locations, different majors, all
(04:16):
that type of stuff.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Because you're supposed to go into it kind of blind,
and especially going to Rutgers and being from New Jersey,
Rutgers is uh big ten in Jersey, so everyone knew everyone,
so it was so difficult. There were some of my
best friends in my sorority that were from my hometown.
And then you just have the surrounding towns from my
(04:39):
town that also went to Rutgers, Like Rutgers was flooded
with people from my town Fairfield, East, Hanover, so many
surrounding towns that were near my town, and you just
hear of familiar faces and people and this one knows
this one, so like small world, everyone knows everyone, and
(05:02):
it was super difficult. I give whoever does those bump
groups a lot of credit seriously.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
And then as a P and M, when you're going
into a house, if you know someone from your hometown,
it's that.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Whole thing of like do I acknowledge that I know them?
Am I not supposed to acknowledge that I know them?
What if I have to talk to them? Am I
supposed to?
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Because I feel like I'm saying, like, oh, that person's
from my hometown.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
There is And then if you know this person, you
also have to monitor what you're saying to them because
during rush, you know, you're not allowed to talk about
going out and social life and boys, and it's so
difficult when you're standing there and you know the person
and you're gonna be like, so, how's your chem class going?
(05:47):
When it's like, you know, you're already on such a
different level where you're almost like you almost get like,
I don't know, I feel like when that happened, you're
almost like, Okay, screw the questions like how how is
the mixer yesterday? Like are you enjoying your freshman year?
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Yes? If they're chilled. Definitely.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
I can't imagine having the same traditional conversation with someone
you already know.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
But because cal is largely in state.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
I mean, obviously we have international out of state, but
people are from California, so you're going to know people,
and it's just that whole thing of like do I
acknowledge that I know you? Or do I acknowledge that
I know your friend? And then you risk giving that
member like a weird vibe that like you know someone here,
so you think you might.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Belong well one hundred percent, because then when you also
get into things like that, you don't want to give
the potential new members false hope, and then that's when
it gets very difficult and tricky.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Yeah, I feel like there's just been all of these
crazy rules that we've been having to.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
Remind all of our new members.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
As they go through this work week, of like you
can't let them take anything out of the house. You
can't let them take a napkin, even if they you like,
everything has to stay in because it's we would get
such a large fine for it, so you can't really
do anything.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
No, definitely, I completely agree. Do you want to talk
about maybe each day? Sure, because I feel like the
bump groups, no matter like, the bump groups are the
most important part. I feel like to preparing the newest
class is typically responsible, but sometimes I feel like I
did it my junior year as well, and I want
(07:29):
to say even my senior year.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Yes, so pretty much all of our active members participate
in RUSH.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Yeah, they're mixed in evenly.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
So for the last seven days we've been going through
how to bump correctly. We've been going through run throughs
of each day. So typically on the first two days
or the days where the PI ANDISS get to talk
to the most amount of girls.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
That's like the biggest speed dating day. I feel what
is it? It's like, is it five minute rounds?
Speaker 2 (07:58):
So the entire round I believe is thirty five minutes,
But you're talking to four girls and you need time.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
You need a lot of time to come into the house,
for the.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Girls to do the chant or whatever, and time for
them to leave because of your late PhD will find you.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
So it's like drill sergeant day by day.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
And so for the last seven days we've spent spending
the entire day going through each party. So like we'll
do a unity, we'll do a Sisterhood day, will do
a Filo day, We'll do preth and we just repeat
those over and over and over, and it's almost like
drill Sergeant, our VP of recruitment. She's awesome, but she
definitely has to be stern and strict. But also I
(08:37):
feel like, because recruitment is about to start, obviously, the
dry period is upon us, and so I feel like
everyone was really eager to go out every night and
be active in the social scene before they could no longer,
and so like a lot of people are showing up
a little bit hungover, but at least they're having a
good time.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
No, definitely, because then while recruitment is going on, nobody
can go out, nobody can drink, and then that's a
big risk for even your potential new members because while
they're going through the rush process, they also need to
participate in dry week as well as members that are
already in sororities. So it's pretty dry on campus, I
(09:20):
feel like for that week, or for at least whoever
participates in Greek.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Life seriously, And I feel like even if you were
to drop something off at your boyfriend's house, if you
lived at a frat, if someone got a picture of you,
you would be totally done for. I feel like everyone's
super strict about that and they want to hold other sororities.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
To the rule.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
So I feel like you're always looking over your shoulder
being like I really hope no one sees me, or
like no one takes this out of context.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
No, one hundred percent, one hundred percent. There definitely is
a lot that goes into it, and the people on
the back end, especially exec who are really deep diving
planning each day, making sure everything is coordinated. It's a
lot of pressure.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Seriously, I feel like all of our exec has been
working all summer to get this all prepped, especially like
our VP of Recruitment and so she is living and
breathing recruitment, and even our house manager, like we have
a whole day dedicated to scrubbing the walls with like
mister clean magic erasers get rid of discusss, to like
(10:24):
mow the lawn to get rid of the leave this.
I feel like there's so much more preparation than just
memorizing party flows. You have to clean up your house,
You have to check everyone's room to make sure they
look acceptable and clean.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
There's just so many things that we all.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
And there's the house tours and everything.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Yes, teaching the new members who haven't done the house
tours what rooms to show, what rooms not to show.
Definitely don't take them by the bathrooms that they don't
need to see, the laundry room, like yeah, if you
wouldn't even think about.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
So there's definitely a lot of preparation that we've been doing.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Do you kind of want to walk through each day
and kind of just explain what each day looks like
during the recruit during recruitment, Yes, and then kind of
like explain like what preparation is like mainly instilled for
each day.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
So the way that Berkeley does recruitment is our first
day of recruitment is on the first day of.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
Classes, which is today.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
So today the p and ms are meeting with their rocas,
meeting the rest of their group, kind of getting acclimated,
but they're not actually visiting any of the houses. That
happens tomorrow and the next day, which is called the
Unity Round. So the Unity Round, the way that Berkeley
does it is they get to go to every single house.
It's split up over two days because they believe we
have about thirteen houses.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
I think Rockers had about the same.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Yeah, so it's about thirty five minute parties. Every girl
has to go into every single house. You're talking to
about four girls. It's very, very quick. It's the speed
dating round. After each round, each collegiate will go and
vote on their P and M on an online platform,
and then it's just round after round after round. So
after those first two days of Unity days, we'll get
(12:28):
callbacks for Sisterhood round, so that round is only one day.
I feel like most p and ms go to six
or eight houses.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
That's like the maxim that you can get. And that
is the day that.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
We do our house tours. So you're mostly talking to
two girls on this day, much longer conversations. They're getting
to know you better, You're getting to know our house
kind of, how our sisterhood is in general, how strong
it is. And then after all of those rounds, we're
voting as well. So then callbacks for the third day,
our philanthropy round. As each round goes on and on,
(13:02):
they get longer and longer and you're having more personable, personalized,
intimate conversations with the P and M. It's not as
dating as Unity.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Exactly, and as each round goes on, if you are
forming a connection with this person, let's just say that
you have talked to now since day one. So then
PREF round is the last round where you will talk
to this girl for forty five minutes, and this is
(13:32):
like your time to shine, Like you have to seal
the deal on getting this girl during that round because
she's either going to pick your sorority or another one,
or she could suicide bid, which is obviously really scary
because the sorority also needs to want you to So
(13:53):
during that whole thing, the last round, Philanthropy round is
really the round where you are trying to grab the
girls that you want.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Yes, And there is such a steep drop off from
Philanthropy to PREF night you have to basically cut the girls.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
That you have returning in half, if not more. And
so the.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Girls coming back on preth we are assuming we one
hundred percent want them. If you're back on PREF, it's
because we want you and we're trying to gauge if
you want us. And then on preth you're talking to
a girl you've talked to.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
In a different round.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
It's very very rare that you would ever be preffed
by somebody who hadn't talked to in an earlier round,
So that also goes into matching. So after you vote
on a P and M, you can write in your notes, Hey,
I think she would do great with blah blah blah.
So it's never a coincidence after those first few rounds
who you talk to, because we're actively thinking about who
as a sister you would be compatible with and who
(14:50):
could get you to join the house. So after PREF,
I mean pretty much all the rules are out the window.
It depends sorority by sorority, but the way that my
sorority does is no questions off the table. Obviously, there's
things that you're told to avoid during the other rounds
of recruitment. You're not supposed to talk about boys, you're
not supposed to talk about parties, you're not supposed to
(15:10):
talk about politics, all the things people tell you not
to talk about. But I feel like on PREF you
want them to have a transparent view of what the
sorority is and actually know what they're getting into, and
so if it's really not for them, then they don't join,
and they end up joining the house. That's better for them.
And like the way that Berkeley PHC talks about suicide
(15:31):
bidding is like it should never ever ever happen because
I believe it moves you down lower on the house's list,
so they could still want you, but for some reason
it interferes because you didn't rank both houses.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
So we always tell people like, even if.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
You know you want this one house and you really
really don't want the other one, to still rank the
second house second, because it helps your chances of getting
into the house that you want to be in.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
But I'm not sure if it's that way everywhere.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Yeah, I mean does not recommend it either to suicide bid,
but I don't think I've ever heard that, which is interesting.
But then I mean, that makes total sense because sometimes
people who suicide bid and then don't get the sorority
they want, and then later on find out that the
sorority actually did want them, but then something got messed
up in the computer system. At that point, it's like
(16:20):
almost too little, too late, and then he needs to
hope that they'll offer you a COB in the future.
So it definitely does get sticky. It's definitely not recommended
at all to suicide bid, like at all but yeah,
but that's also interesting that you guys say all bets
off the table during pref round because when I but
(16:44):
also I think it was kind of like an unspoken
rule at that point, especially at Rutgers, like, Okay, we
made it through this entire thing. You're also talking to
this girl now for longer periods of time each round.
By pref round, it's like, Okay, we need to spice
it up a little bit, Like this is getting a
(17:05):
little boring. I need to start talking to this girl
about some fun things and just fun activities instead of
just asking her like what she wants to do with
her life. So I mean, I totally get that, and
I feel like I also navigated more towards being open
with the girls that I was preffing, because you want
(17:29):
them to also know that they're going to have a
great time and there is a lot of you know,
fun moments in the house and it's not always so
serious and we don't always have to be so you know,
politically correct while speaking to them during recruitment, Yes, because
then you almost like you almost start to feel like
a robot. It's like, oh my god, I'm simp I'm
(17:52):
talking about the same thing over and over and over again.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
Yes, And the p and ms can definitely tell when
you're holding back, or you're not saying what you want
to say, or you're having a very surface level conversation.
So I feel like if you then the rules a
little bit, they feel connected to you and they feel
connected to the house, and it just gives more of
the transparent vibe that like, what you see is what
you're going to get and you're gonna be happy with it.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Yeah, guys, So the biggest thing during the recruitment process
if you are training for recruitment right now, is definitely
your bump groups. Your bump groups determine your entire routine
during recruitment, and then it just comes down to being
your authentic self and winning these girls to choose your sorority.
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