December 20, 2024 • 55 mins
Beauty mogul Laura Geller gets personal with Jenn. From career to motherhood and friendships, she opens up about her journey to success.
Plus, the one wish Jenn could possibly make come true for Laura. Find out what it is!
And, would Laura ever join Housewives or the Golden Bachelorette?
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
All right, you guys, so here she is the one,
the only Laura Geller. Hello, my love, hell Jin, thank
you King. I hope you guys are watching some video
clips of this and not just audio, so that you
could see this beautiful woman's face. I have to tell
you so, Laura and I met at a party that
(00:25):
Margaret Joseph's threw. And I always say this, like at
a certain age, I don't make new friends easily for
whatever reason. I mean, I've been doing this crazy I've
been on this crazy housewives ride, and I've met amazing
people and made new friends. But it's not, you know,
I'm not like. There is something about Laura Yeller. There
is a warmth and a sweetness and a beauty. And
(00:47):
I have to say after we met, all of a sudden,
I got it was Christmas in my house. In what
month we meet? May Matt, you sent me the most
wonderful products. And we'll get to this in a moment.
But I just got more of my favorite products than
I am beside myself. Okay, but I do want to
(01:07):
talk about that. These are certain things I just have
to mention to you, because how about I let you talk? Hi,
my love, Hi, Darling.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
No, I have to say when I met you in
May you know, listen, I'm a housewife fan. I'm gonna
just own it. I live for your franchise Beverly Hills
and New York believe it or not, not so much
this season. But when I met you, I was shocked
that you fanned out over me. Oh I no, Like,
(01:34):
I was like, wait, they're fanning out over me.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Like you guys, don't. I wish you, guys, I wish
I could explain what it's like when someone who's like
an icon and the fact I mean the fact that
you watch I mean I watched too. I've been watching
since the get go, right, since the beginning of all
of this. But like you guys have to understand that,
like that the name lor gell er me is iconic.
It was just like I just went to jingle Ball
whatever and I sat down in this very lovely woman. Hi,
(02:00):
my name is Jen Fessor. How my name is Nicole Miller,
and I'm like, I'm sorry, not Nicole Miller, so, I
Nicole Miller so and Lord Geller besides the fact that
I've been using your products for god knows how many years.
But and then whatever you guys. It's very The whole
thing is very bizarre. And one of the things I
(02:22):
love most about this whole ride that I've been on
is that now I'm just saying, Lord Geller's my friend.
Don't be jealous, is what it is.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
I know what we said.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Where are you right now? Is that your beautiful that's
my apartment. I'm as gorgeous flower.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
You'll probably hear all kinds of horns and honkings soon
because I live near the fifty ninth Street bridge, so
you know, I have my terrace store open. It's one
of the most glorious days today.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
You have a terrace.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
I have a balcony overlooking on the first floor. But
it's also noisy.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
How long have you lived there?
Speaker 2 (02:56):
I've been in this apartment for twelve years, and I
I mean, I've always been on the East Side, so
like before that, I was just ten blocks from here.
But this is really my refuge. I mean, I don't
want to leave this apartment. To me, it's like I
get in here and I'm like, I'm safe. It's like
my refuge, Like I don't want to go back out
in that city craziness, and it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Now, Yeah, it is specifically now more than it used
to be. Do you feel like it's also I feel
the same way. I just I want to be home.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
You like me.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
I want to always be home. But it's funny because
now that I do, since the Housewives, I'm out and
about way more right, And it's so once I get there,
I love it. Not always, but most of the time
I love I love being out and about meeting people
and doing whatever it is right. But I'm a homebody
(03:48):
at heart me too, and I'm a slug at heart. Really.
With you, it's like putting on the makeup and you're
glamorous and you're looking one wants to meet you.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Tell you, Jen, thank God, I know how to do it, Like,
thank God. That's one of my skill sets as being
Really that's what I did most of my career was makeup.
And every time I have to transform myself, I go,
thank God I know how to do it, because I
would be bringing in glam honestly, because it's like you
go out and you're meeting five million people. I just
(04:20):
came up in my lobby and a woman stopped me
in my building and she said, I just want to
tell you I love your makeup, and I've turned so
many people and that doesn't happen that often, trust me.
She was like, I've turned so many people onto your makeup,
and I thought, thank god I had a full face,
because I don't do this all the time. I like
to run out and not have a thing on sometimes
(04:43):
just a little bit.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
I definitely get glam done now a lot. I've tried,
especially during COVID, I tried to teach myself how to
do makeup. And I'm not although one of the very
adorable young women at the party at the holiday party that,
by the way, I was just at Laura Geller's holiday parties.
Don't be jealous and try not to show off too much.
And there was this beautiful young girl there who's who
(05:04):
actually complimented my makeup, And I'm like, you're complimenting my
makeup at a Laura Yeller party. Doesn't get better than that.
But having said that, it's not easy for me. You
didn't your wrong practice a lot. I did it. I
did you. I didn't actually think it was great. Looked
a pictures was okay.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
You know that you don't wear very much is what
I noticed with you. But you know how yourself but
you don't overdo it, which thank you don't.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Overdo it, especially when you're older.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Right, Yeah, it does aid you, It really does.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
I sometimes put on makeup, just go about in a
day and we can. I need your tips on this,
but like even just the foundation, and I know I'm
trying to avoid too much because then the powder sinks
into the wrinkles and the it looks too But I
do make I definitely do make that mistake. But I mean,
I Paul Laman now when I have to go places
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and it is a fortune.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Wait a minute, you don't have the same people I do.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
It didn't want to make up artist? Who absolute she's
still a fortune. She suppos to pay her mortgage, so
I have to.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Pay she do hair or you do your own?
Speaker 1 (06:08):
No, no, I go no, no, no. I have people that
do that as well. And that's you know what adds up?
It doesn't whatever. I'm not, It's okay. My next life,
I'm gonna be Laura Geller.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Do you know what. No, when you're a TV star,
you gotta pull out of stops. That's that's it. And
they are they have expectations of the housewives.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
I know.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
I will tell you that my hairdresser told me he
was leaving our event, my event with one of the
other housewives. He was walking out with her. This is terrible.
If this stuff happens to you, guys, I don't know
how you do the housewives. He walks out with her,
and a couple is walking down the street in New
York stops and says, oh my god, it's hello, and
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the wife says, I love you, but my husband hates you. No,
that's never happened to me, and there would be no
reason that anybody you'd hate this house wife and my hairdresser.
My friend Neil said he felt so bad. I don't.
He didn't tell me how they handled it or anything,
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but he said the wife laughed it off, like my
husband doesn't like you. And I thought I couldn't do.
Like when I get comments on Facebook, sometimes there's a
kind of you know whatever. The comment may be small,
it's rare, though it kills me. I don't know how
you could be open to like.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
I never have had someone be nasty in person, and
I think I've actually spoken to one point. I think
I spoke to Melissa Gorka about it, because she's obviously
way more famous than me and people have been this.
She's doing this for years, and she said it is
very very rare that someone will say even if they
say it, even if they feel it, even if they
think it, they love you. Yeah, they won't say that often.
What kind of a loser would say that to someone
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in person?
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Can you imagine?
Speaker 1 (07:50):
I thought, I can't.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
And they then they laughed about it, like like, maybe
say something else, maybe say.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Anything else, anything else?
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Yes, cringe, people suck, Yes, people.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Can seeople suck. I hate to say it. Okay. I
first somebody said to me, I have to do a
couple of things. I have to say that you should
tell the people who are the next Golden Bachelorette.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
So I did a actually on my Instagram page, which
is Laura J. Geller. Actually it would live on the
Laura Geller beauty page too. Let me think about this.
We did a prank. You didn't hear about it? You did? So? Yeah,
and the other there's another prank coming out saying that
I was asked to be a housewife of New York. Wait,
(08:42):
that's the prank I got to pull it up? Or
was it the Golden Bachelorette?
Speaker 1 (08:47):
And see, I think both of these ideas are perfect ideas.
I don't even wait. First of all, I don't even
know why they're prank.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
First of all, I just want to be a bartender
on Andy's clubhouse. That's what I want.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
You haven't been a bartender, No, I want to be
a bar what happens live.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
I would live for that. I can't even tell you
how much.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Okay, I don't know who's I don't know who does
what for you. But these are things that should becoming
very easy. I mean, Andy Cohen would love to have
you as a bartender. And I have never spoken to
him about it, and I can guarantee that.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
I don't know if anybody my team knows. I don't
know if they asked or anything, but yeah, so we did.
I like to do pranks, Jen, So part of my
my whole life. I prank people. And I have in
my apartment like pranks everywhere, like people got the bathroom
and I have tissues that don't the toilet paper that
doesn't come off. I have fake salad, like you know,
(09:44):
I serve salad and then I put salad but four
doesn't go in. I have everything the long forkd ice
cubes with the fly in it. So no, I love
to prank people, and I love to prank my friends,
and like We'll be going away on vacation and I'll
call them then before I'll text everybody and I'll go
I'm sick. I can't make it. And you know, just
(10:05):
and now some of them are onto me. They know
that I'm fooling them. But so this prank, let's see
what this one is. Who are you, honey? I am
home and I'm freaking freaking out. My team just contacted
(10:26):
me and apparently I have been asked to be on
the next season of the Housewives of New York.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
So what would you do?
Speaker 2 (10:38):
So I think there might be the boy's reason is
that you're talking to the Lauris Katania. Yeah, you know,
they didn't. They wouldn't tell me the rest of the kids.
They just they didn't talk to me. They talked to
my team and they said, we know that she loves
the Housewives of New York, so I should do it,
(10:59):
all right? Can I just can I interrupt you? It's
a joke. I was just pranking here. This is me,
that's my life.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
This is why pranks it. But this is why you
get away with your pranks. Because it's so reasonable. Right,
you see, you're sick before a trip shit happens, asked me, so,
I said, you're golden Bacherette. These are not far fetched ideas.
These are ideas that make actually complete sense. Would you
ever do it?
Speaker 2 (11:24):
You know what? I probably would? Part of me. There's
two things I always wanted to be a comedian, like
that stand up. I want to do stand up.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
I can see that, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
I definitely. And actually somebody scared me recently that I
told They said I could make that happen, and then
I got scared and I was like, now, so I
think I say I want to do things, but then
I think I chicken out.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
And I mean everybody who doesn't get scared, you think
I wasn't scared when they said, okay, do.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
You mind me asking? How you got asked?
Speaker 1 (11:52):
I don't mind at all. But we are we are
not This is I can slip very easily into not
shutting my own mouth about me. I got asked through Margaret.
Margaret recommended me to a casting director. Yeah I didn't,
she didn't even tell me. So we became friends years ago,
A few years ago, six years ago or something, and
(12:14):
all of a sudden, a casting director called me and said,
Margaret Joseph's thinks he would be great on the Housewives
of New Jersey. And I'm like, you know, people are
always like, oh my god. I was asked. I was asked,
you're not at You get contacted because the casting directors
are really good at their jobs, and they go through
Facebook and they see friends of friends and who lives
in Northern Jersey and who looks like they might work,
and so you get the phone calls, but you don't
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get actual interviews necessarily or all of a sudden. I
was like, are you kidding me? No, maybe I didn't.
You know, I've said no when I've gotten the phone calls.
But it's just out of fears. Scary the very idea.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
But it isn't so commitments commitment.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Yes, it's a commitment. It's a scary commitment. I mean,
if you watch the show like I do, if you've
been watching every single episode since the beginning of time,
it's scary. You know what you're getting into. It's fun,
it's exciting. But I'm not Laura Geller, right. So I
was anonymous, and I was fifty three years old, and
I don't know what it's like. And I always think that.
I think I always wanted to feel what it feels
(13:18):
like to be Laura Geller or somebody who is well
known and you know what I mean, who does stuff. So, yeah,
it was an adventure back to you.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
I would like it so that I can get reservations.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
You're not tell me that you can't get reservations.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Oh no, I can't. I can't get into the Polo Bar.
I've been trying to get in there. I can't get into. No,
there's a couple of places I've been trying to get into.
I mean, if I call maybe my publicist, maybe she
can get me in. But not because i'ma but because
she's well known.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
But no, yes, because you're Laura Geller. And well, first
of all, I think they like it when you have
the publicist call more than if you call. Yeah, they
like you're just that's I mean, you can't get we're
going now, we're going to the Polar Bar.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
I want to go to the Polar Bar.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
I can't believe that you have not been I mean
not that I whatever I have been.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
I did fight for a reservation when my son graduated
from college. That was his after we had his ceremony.
We went there, but I mean on a regular basis,
I wouldn't mind going there. It's not far.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
You're going. Huh, that's it, you and me. You're going.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Oh, you can get us in.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
I've been a couple of times I can't get up.
We'll certainly out on my name. I'll get us in
saying that I'm going with Laura Geller.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Oh, Jen, you've been a knock at all.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
All right, we'll see, we'll see, we'll see. Don't challenge right, Okay, yeah, right,
So you guys, I know that you guys already know
who Laura is. I want to talk about makeup. I
want to talk about my favorite things that I've received
and the favorite my favorite things that I use that
are Laura and Geller's. But first, first to first, So
when we were at your party, and by the way,
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it was the most wonderful party, thank I because the
people that you surround yourself with, I feel like are
like you. Everybody was so warm and welcoming. I agree, right,
it was a and I have to be honest, also beautiful.
I didn't. I mean everyone there was gorgeous. It was
like all different ages, all different shapes, form, sizes, races, ethnicity, everybody,
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but everyone the common thread was gorgeous.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
The hard party was I knew mostly everybody in that room,
and I couldn't talk to people.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
I was like it, that was it, that's always hard.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
So I felt guilty. It was it was over fifty people.
It was like close to sixty people. It was crazy.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
There's no guilt everyone. I never saw that much food
in my life. I've never eaten that much delicious food.
And it kept rest.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
East sixtieth and it's a Mediterranean restaurant, but there was
like an Italian flair to it.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
Yes, I was about to say that because I'm getting
very tired of every time I go out to dinner
it's a Greek food. And I was so excited. This
was like a mix and that there was Italian.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
It was so delicious, delicious because our even really the
holidays was everything was child gorgeous, like our products are
made in Italy. So yeah, therefore, I e why we
put in a My friend is the executive chef of
car Mines.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
So really that's why we got to do the sauce.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
So I grew up with him and Glenn Rolnick and
he put sauce in everybody. He just gifted us sauce.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
So that I have to tell you something. Carmines for me,
I've been going there for so many years I don't
care what, so it's always it is a tourist is
a very big touristy spot now, and so when I
suggest it, I sometimes have stupid snobby friends who are like,
oh mind, you cannot get better. I think it is
the most delicious Italian. This is so much fun. I
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love it there. If you're going to a show, it's
right there, or it's still in the Upper West.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Right, Yes, they still have one in the nineties.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
Absolutely, absolutely delicious. I love car Mines because it's so good.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Yeah, I think that I can get a reservation at
very easily.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Both. We're going to do both, okay, but you guys,
so while while I was at Laura's party, we were
talking about the fact that she was gonna come on
just Jen, and as you can imagine, I was overjoyed.
But I don't know how we got to talking about this.
But you did a podcast you said there's only only
been one where because everybody so wants a piece of
you and your makeup skills and your products, which I can't.
(17:31):
I have to be honest, I do too. I do.
I'm sorry, but I do want to talk about them
and get hips from anyway, but I can't help. But
also because I love you, so I know that you
don't get to talk so much about your story and
about you and who you are as a woman. And
I that's kind of what turns me on in life
right now, especially talking to women who are my age
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and who are who have some stories, tell no things.
I think we're probably around this.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Now, my friend. I don't know about that six years old,
and I love you.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
You're sixty.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
I wish I was in my fifties again, because damn sixties,
you know, but I would It's so funny, you know
that question that people get, what would you say to
your younger self? And I always remember when I turned forty,
when I turned fifty, even when I turned sixty, remember thinking,
oh god, I can't believe in forty. I can't believe
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in my fifties. Now I wish I could go back
and grab those years and not stress over getting older.
When I was owing forty, hello, owing fifty, and from
sixty to sixty six, that may be the fastest six
years of my life. I turned sixty six in August.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
And August what August?
Speaker 2 (18:50):
What August second, I'm August ninth. Oh, oh my lea.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Sister, oh queen, Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
I love it. I'm not su bit and so I
just yeah. I sometimes still can't believe it either. And
when you tell people, oh, you're and then they go,
you're sixty, and I'm like mm hm. Even they think
sixty six is something yours sixty six like that, You.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Know, I get that a lot. And I'm fifty six
and I get that a lot, and I say it
like you do. I'm proud of my age. I like
to say how old I am. I say it probably
too often, just even though now I really for me,
it's funny because fifty well maybe fifty one or two
to fifty six was a big change just in my body,
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the way I move, the way I think, the way
I look, the way I all of it, all of it.
But I am definitely happier or two as I get older,
more self confident, less and secure, know what I want.
Boundaries blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Same.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Tell me, well, first, tell me what you spoke to
that other podcast person about it was your story, and
I know you don't get asked much about it because
everybody wants a piece of you. But I want to
hear about you and like, you know, because again I
want to hear about women my age ish and I
find it just fascinating to.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Your peace and well, that's why you're so good at
what you do, because you're really sincerely interested.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
And I amn't really no interesting to you.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
I'm so flattered, you know, I told I told you
about that podcast. So that podcast lives on QVC streaming channel.
There is a host that's very well known there named
Sean Killinger, and she started a podcast where she's interviewing
guests that are a guest on QVC. And she gave
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me rose during the podcast, and I knew when she
gave it to May that I was going to start talking.
And I told Jen Weld you about that podcast because
I thought most of the time when I do a podcast,
when I'm fortunate to be a guest, people ask me
about my business trajectory and how did I start and
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you know where I how did I get to be
such a well known brand or things like that, But
a lot of people don't ask me personal things.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Yeah, I want to know. Yeah, that's what I want
to know. I mean, that's I want to know it all.
But I definitely would like to know that. It's funny
to me and like even you guys, there's so much
I could say. Okay, even Laura says it was a
she was asked about herself by a QVC host, like
you guys, don't I don't know if all of you
know about QVC and more, I don't know if you
know about how our products sold out in like some
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ridiculous record amount of time, and like her QVC presence
and but again that's for the next podcast.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Now that I do, I would love to come back at.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Okay, so tell me tell me about but tell me
about I don't know, tell me about you know.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
The truth stuff is it's I always assume people know
my story. Not the world, but friends like yourself. I
just assume people know. And then when I did this podcast,
people listened to it, they were like I never knew that,
and oh my god, and I have a newfound respect
for you, and so I will share a little bit
(22:18):
with that with you. So I started my career at eighteen,
right out of high school. I was supposed to go
to college and was just going to college because everybody
else was. And then a friend stopped me and said,
what are you doing that for. You love the world
of makeup.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
You should people are. Where did you grow up in.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Rockland County by the Spring Valley.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Yeah, that's right here. I'm an Upper sent River.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Okay, so we left the Bronx when I was eight.
I still somehow have that Bronx accent.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
I think if I love it, I love it.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
I think I talked like my late mother. But when
I grew up in Rockland, and you know, everybody was
going to state schools and you know, just studying liberal
arts or whatever. You know, some others had professions. But
I wound up going to beauty school because her friends
said to me, I know you love makeup. I was
very creative. I wasn't somebody who liked academia, and so
(23:18):
I wound up going to beauty school in Spring Valley.
Long story short, I was miserable because you were learning
about hair, not makeup, and I wanted to learn makeup.
So the owner of the school felt compelled to have
to figure out what to do with me because I
said all right, so I have my license to do hair.
I don't want to do hair. So he sent me
in New York City to School of Visual Arts and
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I studied theater and film makeup. So I did theater
and film makeup after studying it for most of my career.
I mean I worked on legendary, most esteemed Audrey Hepburn,
what I mean, they were older at the time. I
worked with Charles doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
You touched her face, yes, Audrey Hepburn.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
I even Rodger's legs, like I was like legs. I know, wow,
I know, I know, I got lucky. I worked on
a TV series that interviewed living legends at the time,
so many of them were older. But some of them
I got so close with because I was young and
I was I'm an mpath like you, and I would
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let they knew that I wasn't starstruck because I was
a kid and I didn't really know their body of
work then, and they would talk to me, and some
of them cry to me, and they would invite me
to their homes. I mean, I have stories that go anyway,
long story shorts, which I'm going to try to give you.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
No, I want a long story long because of time.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
My career doing makeup in TV and film was for
many years. But then I realized people loved what I
did to them and wanted to buy the products that
I used on them. Because I was a good educator,
I would teach them how to do it. And I
never planned to have my own makeup line, but then
people would say, well, how do I buy that shadow
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or how do I buy that blush. Then I found
this private label manufacturer and I would order twelve at
a time because you couldn't order one, you had to
order a dozen, and I'd stick a label on it
and work. And then I rented in an apartment in
the city in Hell's Kitchen, and my fancy customers were like,
what are you doing on Eighth Avenue in the fifties,
I only ever come here to go to Broadway. I
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was like, well, it's you know, you get to come
see me and they were like, oh, but I'm not
coming back here. You got to drop off the makeup
and year if it was, it was like build it
and they will come. The customers really laid out my
career path like you should open a store. So then
I opened a store. You know, but years later. I
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opened my store on the Upper East Side in nineteen
ninety three, and I was so having so much fun,
and I was so passionate about what I was doing
that it took up most of my life. Like I
I was dating. I had boyfriends, nothing really one serious,
but nothing that ended up in engagement of marriage. And
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because I was so fueled by my career, I was
giving up my personal life, like friends were getting married
and I was like, oh crap, you know, like, oh
my god. And one day a client was in my
chair at my store. I said, you don't remember me.
I came to you when I was forty. I'm fifty now.
I always come to you for my birthday, she said,
And I'm an ob And I remember asking you when
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you were younger if you wanted kids, and you said yes,
And she said how old are you now? I said, well,
I'm forty And she said, and what are you doing
about kids? And I said nothing, And she's like, well
what are you waiting for? You got to get moving
and she literally told me where to go on seventy
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ninth Street and off of lex I was on seventy
fourth and lex I thought, that's convenient to a fertility doctor.
And I was dating this guy at the time that
I knew was like he was hot looking, but I
didn't want to marry him. And I told him I'm
going to see this for he goes, I'll come with you.
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He came with me to the fertility doctor and the
doctor looked at me and went pointed to the guy
and said, I said, I don't want him to be
the father of my children, and goes, okay. I said,
I don't even know what he's doing here, and the
doctor said to me, well, if you want to get
your you got to get started.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
Now.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
You know, they didn't talk about freezing eggs back then.
I wish I had known about that, but I don't
even think that was an option. So he told me
what I had to do to have a child on
my own. And I spent a year getting injections. The
nurse from the office would come and sneak into my
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store and I'd shut the room, the door to the
makeup room, and she'd give me a shot. And I
had a donor and I had my son on my own,
and I had him when I was just turned forty two.
So I started, like when I was in my early
forties forty forty and then I was He was born
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on August twenty second, two thousand, and I had just
turned forty two, and I was blessed that I was
able to have a child on my own, and it
was not many people did it, and so I I
don't think about it like I think people look at
me and they go, oh, she was married, or oh
she must be divorced, or oh maybe she's a widow
like they. I don't know what people think. But I
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told that story when I did that podcast. And I
have been on QBC twenty seven years and this host
knows me almost all of those years, and she was
in shock. She was in shock.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
And you know, my son is twenty four now, right,
My son's twenty So he was born in two thousand. Yeah,
mine May of twenty four. He's twenty four.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
And you know, he doesn't know it any other way.
He doesn't know it any other way. I mean, do
I wish I could have had the traditional marriage and
having children, But in many ways, you know, what he
never had was kind of what I had growing up,
which was not parents that had a good marriage and
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lots of fighting. Him My parents got divorced when I
was eleven. There was never fighting in the house. It
was calm, and because of it, I really believe he's
so much more well adjusted than I was, because I
saw things no child should see when you grow up
with parents that don't have a good marriage.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
You know, yeah, I do know he did. I can't.
I wish. I hope that whoever's listening understands it. This
was see I get it because in nineteen ninety three
I saw your store. I would have died if I
could have. I was living in New York City. I
would have died if I could have would have thought
that all of these years later, I'm going to be
friends with Laura Geller. Oh, but like to have so
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much going on in your career at that point, and
before nineteen ninety three obviously, and then to be it
was very progressive thinking, right, I mean, it wasn't that
long ago, but still right to say I want a baby,
and not only do you want a baby, but you're
going to be able to support this baby on your
own independent, which is what my grandmother always said to me.
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Be independent, that is everything.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
And nobody ever told me that. Oh now, it's all
the time I saw my mother not be independent when
my father left. And I remember a neighbor who I'm
still friends with, my first friend growing up in Spring Valley, Jody.
At seven, I met her. Her mother was much younger
than my mother. She taught my mother how to write
(30:56):
a check. And I remember I wrote a letter to
myself when I was twelve years old, saying I will
never rely on a man at twelve. I have the
letter here and I will always give it framed. I
never framed it, and I actually I know it has
to be framed.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
Really it is. How unbelievable is that? That's ever, that's
your story, that's a you're twelve years years old.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
I said, I'm listening to my transistor radio. Listen to
Cousin Brucey right now on WABC, and in my bedroom,
my best friend is Jody Rosenwasser, and and I said,
I will o whisby success as something I don't. I
have it. I took a screenshot of it, so it's
on my phone.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
But I mean only because like who. First of all,
I don't know what the hell I said to myself
at age twelve. It wasn't I'll never have anyone write
a check for me. It was something along the lines
of I wish a boy would kiss me, and I'll
do anything. It was not that, but also just in
terms of who you are. That's so that's lately just.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
You could go one way or the other. Right, I
could have, you know, not been ambitious. And you know,
my sister she rest in peace. She was four years
older than me. She was shy, and she didn't take
it well and it affected her life.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
And and I was like, what did your family dynamic?
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Dynamic it got, you know, over the years, it got
to listen, it probably got I never got married, so
it definitely affecting me.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
But I think, do you think that's why. I mean,
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
I had I had a very very tumultuous, difficult childhood.
I mean I've got many many divorces, not just one,
and lots of what my I mean my parents, both
my parents have been married more than once, and like
right now, my well, my father is divorced, but I
have a daughter who's younger than my daughter. I have
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a sister who's younger than my daughter. There's lots of
weird dynamics in my family. My mother was divorced and
then married a guy and he passed away, and then
it's just it's a lot. It was a lot growing up,
and anyway, it's not about me. How did you promine myself?
I can only tell you that when you just said,
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like the way that your son grew up with a
certain amount of peace and being conscious of that that
you didn't maybe have the same type of peace growing up,
I think that was so important to me. And although
my kids may tell their therapists something else, they grew up.
In my mind they are very blessed and I was
not a perfect mother. There are things that I would
do differently at one point. Yeah, we're not. And Jeff
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and I were separated for a year and a half
and I feel to this day, I know that was
really hard on them, but happily I had the brains
in my head to not divorce him and to get
back together, thank God. But you know, so they've had difficulties,
but I don't feel I can't. Maybe one day I'll
feel bad for them, but not today because they had
Jeff Professor, who was a much i think a better
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parent than I was. But they had a lot of
peace in their life that I did not have. And
I made sure of it, and I made sure that
it wasn't screening and chaos. And so you understand I do,
I do, And I think your son is unbelievably lucky.
I hope that he knows it. I'm sure that he does.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
Oh he does. He he'll tell me, you know, he'll
say to me, Mom, like I realize when I go
to certain friends homes, you know, growing up or now today,
He'll say to me, I realize, like how like normal
you are, and like how lucky we are to have
our relationship the way we do because I look at
some of my friends that won't talk to their parents
(34:33):
about their private things, or you know, he sees the
dichotomy from his other friends and what we have. And so,
you know, as they get older, I think your children
too see that they do, and they recognize the work
you put into raising them. And believe me, they all
(34:54):
owe my stuff and the mistakes I made. And well,
although he'll say, no, you don't own it, but I
mean the thing is, I think they have a found
respect for knowing what we went through and how we changed.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
My kids, know, I mean, yeah, I've been definitely been
open with him about my own difficulties growing up. But
I just cannot I mean, I just can't imagine having
you as a mother. And also just I don't know
was how I feel. I don't know why. I'm not
sure that all my viewers understand. I don't know who's
listening or my listeners understand. Like for me again, like
(35:30):
nineteen ninety three, I know that you had a store
because I went there, like I so when I met
you at Margaret's, I was like, to me, it's just
your icnic. And now I'm picturing like your son and
having him, you know, on your own and being that
independent which is so important for women. And then I'm
almost a little jealous of your son, you know what,
I don't like him. I just decided to tell them
(35:53):
to fail. I'm jealous or I'm jealous of Lily.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
I don't know which Daniels really.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
Lily is Laura's sons a girlfriend? Yes? Who ire? But yeah,
that I mean, was it so? Was it hard? It was?
Everything is hard. Life is hard. Life is just that is.
I was talking about that in another podcast No.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
One Else when it comes away gay and my story
is not nearly as bad as other people's and or
so unique or it's and for me it's normal. But
then when I talked to people or I did that
podcast and people were like, I just assumed you were
men married. I just assumed you might be divorced or
(36:33):
you know, I realized that, like, I want to tell
my story. I want to tell my story because I
fought for everything. It wasn't easy, and I relied on
nanny's and maybe I didn't always pick the right ones,
and so I didn't.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
You can't, you can't.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
Yeah, it was hard, and I was working tirelessly. I
took him with me. I had to go to London
six times a year to do QBC in London, and
I would take him in the nanny or get a
sitter there, and I wouldn't leave him behind. Or if
I had to go, I went and did my job
and came back the next day.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
You know, he'll tell you no one to lean on.
I mean not just raising hid but now picture completely
being financially responsible.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
And I didn't have money then. I was working and clamoring.
My father used to say to me, I don't understand.
You have this store, you're paying this kind of rent,
You're working really hard. You don't have any money in
the bank. I was like, I put it all back
into inventory, into paying my employees in the store. And
I think it looked a certain way, but it wasn't
(37:42):
until I got an investment in my business in twenty twelve.
And it happened because of my store. A banker walked
by and dropped a note off saying, do you want
to sell your business? And I thought, I don't know
how that works. I don't know. I like being the
one hundred percent business owner. What did I know there
was no mentorship. I didn't know that that was a thing,
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you know, private eye.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
We were working on Wall Street or in finance right
so far into me Jen so far? And so what
happened about?
Speaker 2 (38:13):
I called her and I said, wait, what do you
mean sell my business?
Speaker 1 (38:17):
It was a woman.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
It was a woman who I'm still friends with. We
just had LUNs. She took me. Subsequently, I sent her
a lot of people who own who have found her
own businesses and if it's the right fit, she represents them.
And she just sold a very big fragrance company home
fragrance company. And she took me to lunch at Casa Chipriani,
(38:38):
which was very nice, delicious, So we're still very close.
And she met with me and she said okay, and
I said, well, tell me what this means, and she's
and she explained. She said, somebody comes in, they buy
a piece of your company, You get a cash payout,
and you will own a piece of it. It'll be
(39:00):
a minority stake. And by that time, I was working
on QBC, still doing private clients, still doing some TV
and film, raising my child. I was like, what am
I doing? I need help. I needed somebody with the
business acumen that knew how to grow my business and
make it. And by the way, I was in Sophora,
(39:22):
I did that on my own, every Sephora door. I
don't know how I paid for it. I don't even know.
And so I just said to her, this was in
twenty twelve, Okay, what do I need to do. I'm interested.
And she said, well, you got to get your book together.
I'm like a book. What's a book?
Speaker 1 (39:39):
And business a book of.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
Like your five year plan and what your balance sheet
is and your p and ls and who your customers
are and you know. And I didn't have I had
an accountant, but I didn't really have somebody working for
me that knew how to put a book together to
present to you know, investors, and so I had to
(40:02):
do that and that took two years to find someone
who understood how to go backwards and put this book together.
And then she put me in front of different private
equity folks, some big, some small, and there was one
person who believed in my brand and my founder story
(40:22):
and really liked it. And I really liked him. And
there's more to that story, but I'll just leave it
at that. I sold a majority.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
Stake and he really liked him, I could tell, and.
Speaker 2 (40:38):
He invested in my business. And the one thing that
I got was financial security, which I never dreamed in
my life i'd have, right and because everything I made
went back into you know, paying for my son's school
and you live in the city, you got to make
sure you're paying for schools and just everything. So I
(40:59):
having that financial security came at a cost. It did
come at a cost. And so everybody who's listening right
now who thinks that the ultimate thing is to start
a brand or start a service or whatever it may be.
If you're listening and you have an idea and you
think the exit strategy is the win, it doesn't come
(41:22):
without paying a price, I'll just leave it there.
Speaker 1 (41:26):
And I don't want you to leave it there. And
I can't. I know, I said's okay, but I'm saying
privately we will have to discuss it because I can't.
I mean or not, but I'm I'm happy.
Speaker 2 (41:37):
To to offline. But you know, I did Margaret's podcast
a long time ago. I said, I can write a book,
but I'd have to change the names to protect the guilty.
And she said, I said this, she said, those are
my words exactly. I'd have to change the names to
protect the guilty.
Speaker 1 (41:55):
So anyway I hate them, I will have to get
their names in numbers, because now I just hate their guts.
Wherever they are, may they rotten hell.
Speaker 2 (42:03):
Well, you know what the truth is, people, it's it's listen.
I'm sure, Jeff, I'm sure you've heard stories. Listen. Margaret
had a story too. It's not easy when you sell
your business. It's not easy, you I mean, I was
happy to give up and relinquish the power because I
(42:25):
didn't want it anymore. I was so done with it,
you know, you know, firing, hiring, doing the books, doing
every I just wanted to be a makeup artist and
create product and do marketing. And that was all I
ever wanted, but I got thrust it into having to
learn it and on the spot. So you know, I
(42:47):
was happy to give it up, but that that was hard.
Speaker 1 (42:50):
That was hard. We'll talk, okay.
Speaker 2 (42:54):
I'll tell you.
Speaker 1 (42:56):
I love so much this podcast because I I love
doing podcasts. A podcast now it's one in particular because
it's just I could just listen to you forever. Now
we're going to have to talk a little bit of makeup.
Good Okay, yeah, good, okay, So here's your thank you
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guys of mine.
Speaker 2 (43:20):
That is your favorite.
Speaker 1 (43:22):
I'm gonna be honest with you, it's the miscake because yes,
I'm holding it right here.
Speaker 2 (43:28):
Do you know, I'm going to tell you a secret.
And in twenty seven years, I've created probably probably close
to a dozen different formulas of mascara. And I say
this on air, which is something that's very risky to say.
I have never created a mascara that I love as
much as this one. It's the one. Really insane.
Speaker 1 (43:48):
Okay, So I'm right. Just so you guys know, we
didn't talk about this before beforehand, And I'll tell you
since i've been doing the housewives or whatever. It's a
lot of like learning about putting on lashes, and I
still to this day, I can't do it. There's side
sticking out. And when I when I started using fake eyelashes,
it made such a huge difference, right, and I love
(44:09):
the way it looked, and I just I'm really bad
at it. I just I can't stand it. There's always
it is. I do it sometimes, but I have a
very hard time. So. But lashes, I never knew how
important they were right until I started using fake ones.
But I always used different Miss Scueras. I used Georgia
Ormani a lot. I thought that was actually really really
good one. Your Miss Scarra is the only one. I mean,
(44:32):
I'm wearing it now obviously, but like and I didn't.
I can put it on though, and make my lashes
as long as fakes. It's so fabulous. I love it
because I put products I like best, like bring down
here for I'm telling you right now, and I this
is the first one I picked.
Speaker 2 (44:46):
Yeah, I have to tell you. I could not believe
when my product development teams gave me a submission, I said,
is this going to come out like this? Like when
we actually make it because sometimes you get a submission
and you say yes to it, and then when it goes,
when it's automated and it's put on the line, you
get it and you're like, that's not what I signed
off on. This mascaret is the best thing I have
(45:12):
ever created in miscarras, the best and I.
Speaker 1 (45:16):
Where are you guys? We did not have this discussion beforehand.
I literally wanted to bring down my favorite couple things.
I love absolutely everything that you make. The muscarra is
you said, what's my favorite? That's my favorite?
Speaker 2 (45:29):
I wanted to know.
Speaker 1 (45:30):
I've known and I've tried fifty six years old. I've
tried many, many, many many muscarras, of course, and I'm
not a makeup artist, so I didn't realize how important
lashes are. But they change, yeah, so dramatically, they change
your eye.
Speaker 2 (45:43):
Yeah right, yep, yep, this one. And I'll tell you
why you like it. And I always told this to
my team when they were making one. It has to
be thick the formula. It has to be creamy and thick.
If you take a mescara out and it's like wet,
you you know, and it's not the floppy because it's
not so messy, but it will never volumize your lash.
(46:04):
The thicker the formula is, the more it volumeizes. So
we were able to get that sort of perfect in
between of lengthening and volumeizing. I know this could be
boring for some people.
Speaker 1 (46:16):
No, to me, it's not. It ain't more boring to me.
I love makeup. Also, there's that I'm not great at makeup,
but I love makeup. Hey, during COVID, I started watching
the makeup videos and what else was I gonna do?
Just for fun? I wasn't going anywhere. There's something very
I found something very therapy.
Speaker 2 (46:32):
That's why I went into it. Really, I loved I
loved how therapy for me. It gave me so much peace.
I loved doing it to people. Oh my god, I
missed doing it. I truly miss it because.
Speaker 1 (46:48):
Well, your friend Jennifer lives in New Jersey. If if
you miss it, I'll be here waiting for you. Okay,
the products that I love.
Speaker 2 (46:56):
Yeah, people still ask me, will you do my wedding?
I go now you want me to. I'm going to
be coming with a cane soon and five room glasses.
I mean I I Anyway, it's soothing. There's something soothing
about it.
Speaker 1 (47:10):
I love your bronzer. I love your bronzer. It goes
on so easily, so smoothly. And speaking of putting things on,
I do love your makeup brushes. You have one. I
didn't even bring it down here, but it's one practable one.
It's the one that you.
Speaker 2 (47:25):
Oh, I love that party. We got to do this.
Speaker 1 (47:27):
Yes, yes, I love that. I love to put on.
Speaker 2 (47:30):
They had somebody engraving and that is gorgeous. Yeah, they're
cruelty for me.
Speaker 1 (47:34):
So you guys, I love that brush.
Speaker 2 (47:38):
Yeah, it's a great brush.
Speaker 1 (47:40):
It's a great brush.
Speaker 2 (47:42):
This bit, this baby is my of all things.
Speaker 1 (47:45):
Because it does everything. It's the blush, the highlight of right,
the puts it all together.
Speaker 2 (47:49):
Is that why?
Speaker 1 (47:50):
For you guys?
Speaker 2 (47:51):
This one is your bronzer, your blush, highlight shadows and
two highlighters, one that has a low blow and one
that has a little bit of luminosity to it. Kyle
Richards said she keeps this in her car because when
she shows up places, if the paparazzi are outside, she goes,
opens this up, takes her brushing, goes like this that
(48:13):
she walks out of the car.
Speaker 1 (48:14):
She literally has everything. Yeah, I know, so I am.
There's the thing is I've now I've always worn Laura
Geller always there it is you guys, best of wait,
put it up again, my loves well the best of
the best, best of the best, right, a full face, right,
and they should just sign up.
Speaker 2 (48:30):
On Laura Geller because we have sales that are embarrassingly
like we give it away. Like people are always like, oh,
I just ordered, and sometimes I feel bad. I'm like, oh,
I would have sent it to you, and then I
realize they do things for like sixty percent off seventy
to sous.
Speaker 1 (48:47):
Yeah, because not only I've been wearing Laura Geller also
but my sister, my mother. And that's the other piece,
you guys, is that it's not just for you know,
it's very easy to do a young person's face, right,
That's true here, right, it's trickier. So also the products
and I think my listeners are probably more my age
than younger, I don't know, more our age than younger
about like you have to be careful, right, because the
(49:10):
products that will work on your face now are not
the same products that would work exactly right.
Speaker 2 (49:15):
Yeah, And funny enough, young people love my line I mean,
we don't eliminate.
Speaker 1 (49:19):
We cater to. My daughter is taking my ship all
the time, that's a fact. And you've given me so
many beautiful things, so she doesn't even She's just a
little sneak. So I'll just like notice that the things
are gone. But I so, yeah, yeah, I love your
makeup brushes. I also love your foundation, and I love
your primer. Oh yeah, so I brought this downstairs like
I tried to bring my I thought, well, I love
(49:40):
the brushes, but this primer mind is in the champagne luminosity, right.
Speaker 2 (49:44):
Yeah it does.
Speaker 1 (49:45):
I love it, and I love it the other guys.
I love everything I love.
Speaker 2 (49:49):
I love that you love it. Did you ever try
the casals byeliners?
Speaker 1 (49:56):
No? Okay, I guess you know why. I don't know
a pens. I always use a liquid eye liner.
Speaker 2 (50:01):
Okay, that's fine?
Speaker 1 (50:02):
Is that? But do you tell me because I just
don't know how that is your liner list? Well, not
the liquids, because you know what happens the brush on
the liquids. They always come apart, like all of a sudden,
like the little bristles and then I'm putting on the
liquid eye liner and I'm getting it up here and
down here. Because the bristles are all.
Speaker 2 (50:21):
The bristles can touch the other parts of the eye.
So it's not a thin pencil as you can see,
which I like. So when you do a line, it's
not going to be precise. We do have pencils that
do that too. These casals are our number one selling
probably our number one selling item. We can't keep them
in stock. They're liners that are so rich we call
(50:43):
them because the pigment is very rich that once you
put them on, they don't come off until you're ready
to take them off. They don't transfer like some people
open their eyes and they get like a thing here
or they where the liner starts getting not so steep
in color.
Speaker 1 (51:00):
Jen.
Speaker 2 (51:00):
If we didn't send these to you, we're sending them
to you. People are obsessed with these.
Speaker 1 (51:06):
When you put them on, you said, it doesn't always
make that exact lunch. Do you blur it afterwards?
Speaker 2 (51:11):
Idea is listen, I wouldn't do it under because then
it will be too thick. You could do it inside.
They're meant for inside too, but.
Speaker 1 (51:20):
We do waterline anymore. We get to a certain age,
are we still doing that? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (51:24):
I mean I don't do it, but you can. It
doesn't you know, it doesn't. It doesn't make your eyes
look smaller, but it comes up. Although these make these
will stay on more than other traditional ones on that inside.
But when you do it and you walk it across
like that, like one swipe to wonderful but rich and pigment,
and they don't move, they just don't move.
Speaker 1 (51:44):
I mean.
Speaker 2 (51:45):
The only thing is people don't like that. They when
this is this is brand new, so they you get
that point, but there's a sharpener in the back and
I just because I'm lazy, I take my tissue and
I just go like this and I bit back and
forth to get that point. Or you can wipe with
an eyeliner brush like an angled eye liner, wipe it
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on the formula and do it that way if you
want more precision. It's just I don't don't even know
what's in this liner. Don't ask me, right, people are
obsessed with the with the liner. I can't keep them
in stuff.
Speaker 1 (52:17):
Well, I have to go out tonight. I told you
i'd never want to, but I do have one of
my best friend's birthday dinners, so I think I don't.
I'm not sure, but I did get a beautiful package.
Speaker 2 (52:26):
To good so you'll go through a week. I bet
you we sent you some cood. I would be shocked
if we didn't, because we would always send our most
favorite things. Like they say, oh you do have them,
and you know why they they sent me the products
that you were sent, Sarah.
Speaker 1 (52:41):
I literally just got it this morning thing, so I
didn't have a chance. But okay, so I will report back.
Speaker 2 (52:47):
And the light of the colors you can use as
an eye.
Speaker 1 (52:49):
I was about to ask you or under your lower lash,
because I'm all about okay, because I'm all about now
what is what is fast?
Speaker 2 (52:58):
Like?
Speaker 1 (52:58):
What I'm not like? So you're saying you could use them,
so you put them in the crease. The other light.
Speaker 2 (53:03):
Colors would be lid lid on your eyelid, and but
you got to blend it in the second or take
a brush, because once these are on, they set like
in twenty seconds.
Speaker 1 (53:14):
Yeah set it. I mean, do you use it? Can
you use your fingers out as good as I use
my fingers.
Speaker 2 (53:18):
I use my fingers. So I'll take this like the
light like this is like an antique bronze color, and
I'll put it on my lid. Then I take my
finger and I go like that. Then I take the
dark line and I just go across my And sometimes
that's all I do is as far as my shadows go.
I always do brow. I I'm naked without my brow,
and they didn't send you my brow, which is the
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most wonderful thing in the world. Do you you don't
need brow? Do you like you don't you have good brows?
Speaker 1 (53:46):
I use brow. I mean I'm not great at it.
I use like an anti seizure or something. I just do.
Speaker 2 (53:51):
We have somethingle Bravo brow, which you also need. It's
powder suspended in a gel, so when you go to
put it on, it's soft looking.
Speaker 1 (54:00):
It's not like because your brows are gorgeous.
Speaker 2 (54:02):
Yeah, I mean I have nothing here. These bread pencil
is insane.
Speaker 1 (54:08):
Okay, well I need it. I just I can't actually
buy it. I mean now at this point I think
I probably should. I can't just keep expecting free product
from my favorite make artist. But I love sharing this.
I love you and tell me to wrap up. I
love you so so much. Thank you for I really do. Laura.
You are such a special woman. I'm sure everyone says
(54:29):
that to you, but you are a very unique by
the way, I would like a guy warm and wonderful.
What about a guy that's our next conversation. I mean, hello, like, all,
why why do you go on Golden Bachcherette? I think
you would be unbelievable Let them ask me. I mean,
you know who you're published. I know that you have
the best publicist.
Speaker 2 (54:45):
On the Golden Bachelor. I don't even want to go
on the Golden Bachelorette. I just you know, I'm putting
it out in the universe, not manifesting. I'd like, I
just would like to meet a nice man, companion friend
to go out and travel and have fun with. We
don't have to get mad, We're not looking for that.
Speaker 1 (55:01):
Just why would you? Right exactly? I mean I always
say that about Jeff, like I'm very lucky in that
forget everything else. He is my best friend. So it's
nice to have a companion in that way, right, And honey,
you and I are going to have to have that discussion.
That's our next discussion off or online.
Speaker 2 (55:16):
Polo bar Carmines. Else do we say, Well, you must
have some good haunts that you like. You'll let me know.
Speaker 1 (55:23):
No, I think it's you that are going to show me.
Speaker 2 (55:25):
I'm happy to leave this city.
Speaker 1 (55:26):
Why would I ever have you come here when I
can go there, Nuts, I'll meet you in New York, Okay.
I love you. I love you, love you so much
to thank you, Thank you my friend.
Speaker 2 (55:39):
Part's forever. Talk to you soon.
Speaker 1 (55:41):
Bye,
All right, you guys, so here she is the one,
the only Laura Geller. Hello, my love, hell Jin, thank
you King. I hope you guys are watching some video
clips of this and not just audio, so that you
could see this beautiful woman's face. I have to tell
you so, Laura and I met at a party that
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Margaret Joseph's threw. And I always say this, like at
a certain age, I don't make new friends easily for
whatever reason. I mean, I've been doing this crazy I've
been on this crazy housewives ride, and I've met amazing
people and made new friends. But it's not, you know,
I'm not like. There is something about Laura Yeller. There
is a warmth and a sweetness and a beauty. And
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I have to say after we met, all of a sudden,
I got it was Christmas in my house. In what
month we meet? May Matt, you sent me the most
wonderful products. And we'll get to this in a moment.
But I just got more of my favorite products than
I am beside myself. Okay, but I do want to
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talk about that. These are certain things I just have
to mention to you, because how about I let you talk? Hi,
my love, Hi, Darling.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
No, I have to say when I met you in
May you know, listen, I'm a housewife fan. I'm gonna
just own it. I live for your franchise Beverly Hills
and New York believe it or not, not so much
this season. But when I met you, I was shocked
that you fanned out over me. Oh I no, Like,
(01:34):
I was like, wait, they're fanning out over me.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Like you guys, don't. I wish you, guys, I wish
I could explain what it's like when someone who's like
an icon and the fact I mean the fact that
you watch I mean I watched too. I've been watching
since the get go, right, since the beginning of all
of this. But like you guys have to understand that,
like that the name lor gell er me is iconic.
It was just like I just went to jingle Ball
whatever and I sat down in this very lovely woman. Hi,
(02:00):
my name is Jen Fessor. How my name is Nicole Miller,
and I'm like, I'm sorry, not Nicole Miller, so, I
Nicole Miller so and Lord Geller besides the fact that
I've been using your products for god knows how many years.
But and then whatever you guys. It's very The whole
thing is very bizarre. And one of the things I
(02:22):
love most about this whole ride that I've been on
is that now I'm just saying, Lord Geller's my friend.
Don't be jealous, is what it is.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
I know what we said.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Where are you right now? Is that your beautiful that's
my apartment. I'm as gorgeous flower.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
You'll probably hear all kinds of horns and honkings soon
because I live near the fifty ninth Street bridge, so
you know, I have my terrace store open. It's one
of the most glorious days today.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
You have a terrace.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
I have a balcony overlooking on the first floor. But
it's also noisy.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
How long have you lived there?
Speaker 2 (02:56):
I've been in this apartment for twelve years, and I
I mean, I've always been on the East Side, so
like before that, I was just ten blocks from here.
But this is really my refuge. I mean, I don't
want to leave this apartment. To me, it's like I
get in here and I'm like, I'm safe. It's like
my refuge, Like I don't want to go back out
in that city craziness, and it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Now, Yeah, it is specifically now more than it used
to be. Do you feel like it's also I feel
the same way. I just I want to be home.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
You like me.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
I want to always be home. But it's funny because
now that I do, since the Housewives, I'm out and
about way more right, And it's so once I get there,
I love it. Not always, but most of the time
I love I love being out and about meeting people
and doing whatever it is right. But I'm a homebody
(03:48):
at heart me too, and I'm a slug at heart. Really.
With you, it's like putting on the makeup and you're
glamorous and you're looking one wants to meet you.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Tell you, Jen, thank God, I know how to do it, Like,
thank God. That's one of my skill sets as being
Really that's what I did most of my career was makeup.
And every time I have to transform myself, I go,
thank God I know how to do it, because I
would be bringing in glam honestly, because it's like you
go out and you're meeting five million people. I just
(04:20):
came up in my lobby and a woman stopped me
in my building and she said, I just want to
tell you I love your makeup, and I've turned so
many people and that doesn't happen that often, trust me.
She was like, I've turned so many people onto your makeup,
and I thought, thank god I had a full face,
because I don't do this all the time. I like
to run out and not have a thing on sometimes
(04:43):
just a little bit.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
I definitely get glam done now a lot. I've tried,
especially during COVID, I tried to teach myself how to
do makeup. And I'm not although one of the very
adorable young women at the party at the holiday party that,
by the way, I was just at Laura Geller's holiday parties.
Don't be jealous and try not to show off too much.
And there was this beautiful young girl there who's who
(05:04):
actually complimented my makeup, And I'm like, you're complimenting my
makeup at a Laura Yeller party. Doesn't get better than that.
But having said that, it's not easy for me. You
didn't your wrong practice a lot. I did it. I
did you. I didn't actually think it was great. Looked
a pictures was okay.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
You know that you don't wear very much is what
I noticed with you. But you know how yourself but
you don't overdo it, which thank you don't.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Overdo it, especially when you're older.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Right, Yeah, it does aid you, It really does.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
I sometimes put on makeup, just go about in a
day and we can. I need your tips on this,
but like even just the foundation, and I know I'm
trying to avoid too much because then the powder sinks
into the wrinkles and the it looks too But I
do make I definitely do make that mistake. But I mean,
I Paul Laman now when I have to go places
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and it is a fortune.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Wait a minute, you don't have the same people I do.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
It didn't want to make up artist? Who absolute she's
still a fortune. She suppos to pay her mortgage, so
I have to.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Pay she do hair or you do your own?
Speaker 1 (06:08):
No, no, I go no, no, no. I have people that
do that as well. And that's you know what adds up?
It doesn't whatever. I'm not, It's okay. My next life,
I'm gonna be Laura Geller.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Do you know what. No, when you're a TV star,
you gotta pull out of stops. That's that's it. And
they are they have expectations of the housewives.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
I know.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
I will tell you that my hairdresser told me he
was leaving our event, my event with one of the
other housewives. He was walking out with her. This is terrible.
If this stuff happens to you, guys, I don't know
how you do the housewives. He walks out with her,
and a couple is walking down the street in New
York stops and says, oh my god, it's hello, and
(06:51):
the wife says, I love you, but my husband hates you. No,
that's never happened to me, and there would be no
reason that anybody you'd hate this house wife and my hairdresser.
My friend Neil said he felt so bad. I don't.
He didn't tell me how they handled it or anything,
(07:11):
but he said the wife laughed it off, like my
husband doesn't like you. And I thought I couldn't do.
Like when I get comments on Facebook, sometimes there's a
kind of you know whatever. The comment may be small,
it's rare, though it kills me. I don't know how
you could be open to like.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
I never have had someone be nasty in person, and
I think I've actually spoken to one point. I think
I spoke to Melissa Gorka about it, because she's obviously
way more famous than me and people have been this.
She's doing this for years, and she said it is
very very rare that someone will say even if they
say it, even if they feel it, even if they
think it, they love you. Yeah, they won't say that often.
What kind of a loser would say that to someone
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in person?
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Can you imagine?
Speaker 1 (07:50):
I thought, I can't.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
And they then they laughed about it, like like, maybe
say something else, maybe say.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Anything else, anything else?
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Yes, cringe, people suck, Yes, people.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Can seeople suck. I hate to say it. Okay. I
first somebody said to me, I have to do a
couple of things. I have to say that you should
tell the people who are the next Golden Bachelorette.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
So I did a actually on my Instagram page, which
is Laura J. Geller. Actually it would live on the
Laura Geller beauty page too. Let me think about this.
We did a prank. You didn't hear about it? You did? So? Yeah,
and the other there's another prank coming out saying that
I was asked to be a housewife of New York. Wait,
(08:42):
that's the prank I got to pull it up? Or
was it the Golden Bachelorette?
Speaker 1 (08:47):
And see, I think both of these ideas are perfect ideas.
I don't even wait. First of all, I don't even
know why they're prank.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
First of all, I just want to be a bartender
on Andy's clubhouse. That's what I want.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
You haven't been a bartender, No, I want to be
a bar what happens live.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
I would live for that. I can't even tell you
how much.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Okay, I don't know who's I don't know who does
what for you. But these are things that should becoming
very easy. I mean, Andy Cohen would love to have
you as a bartender. And I have never spoken to
him about it, and I can guarantee that.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
I don't know if anybody my team knows. I don't
know if they asked or anything, but yeah, so we did.
I like to do pranks, Jen, So part of my
my whole life. I prank people. And I have in
my apartment like pranks everywhere, like people got the bathroom
and I have tissues that don't the toilet paper that
doesn't come off. I have fake salad, like you know,
(09:44):
I serve salad and then I put salad but four
doesn't go in. I have everything the long forkd ice
cubes with the fly in it. So no, I love
to prank people, and I love to prank my friends,
and like We'll be going away on vacation and I'll
call them then before I'll text everybody and I'll go
I'm sick. I can't make it. And you know, just
(10:05):
and now some of them are onto me. They know
that I'm fooling them. But so this prank, let's see
what this one is. Who are you, honey? I am
home and I'm freaking freaking out. My team just contacted
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me and apparently I have been asked to be on
the next season of the Housewives of New York.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
So what would you do?
Speaker 2 (10:38):
So I think there might be the boy's reason is
that you're talking to the Lauris Katania. Yeah, you know,
they didn't. They wouldn't tell me the rest of the kids.
They just they didn't talk to me. They talked to
my team and they said, we know that she loves
the Housewives of New York, so I should do it,
(10:59):
all right? Can I just can I interrupt you? It's
a joke. I was just pranking here. This is me,
that's my life.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
This is why pranks it. But this is why you
get away with your pranks. Because it's so reasonable. Right,
you see, you're sick before a trip shit happens, asked me, so,
I said, you're golden Bacherette. These are not far fetched ideas.
These are ideas that make actually complete sense. Would you
ever do it?
Speaker 2 (11:24):
You know what? I probably would? Part of me. There's
two things I always wanted to be a comedian, like
that stand up. I want to do stand up.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
I can see that, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
I definitely. And actually somebody scared me recently that I
told They said I could make that happen, and then
I got scared and I was like, now, so I
think I say I want to do things, but then
I think I chicken out.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
And I mean everybody who doesn't get scared, you think
I wasn't scared when they said, okay, do.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
You mind me asking? How you got asked?
Speaker 1 (11:52):
I don't mind at all. But we are we are
not This is I can slip very easily into not
shutting my own mouth about me. I got asked through Margaret.
Margaret recommended me to a casting director. Yeah I didn't,
she didn't even tell me. So we became friends years ago,
A few years ago, six years ago or something, and
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all of a sudden, a casting director called me and said,
Margaret Joseph's thinks he would be great on the Housewives
of New Jersey. And I'm like, you know, people are
always like, oh my god. I was asked. I was asked,
you're not at You get contacted because the casting directors
are really good at their jobs, and they go through
Facebook and they see friends of friends and who lives
in Northern Jersey and who looks like they might work,
and so you get the phone calls, but you don't
(12:35):
get actual interviews necessarily or all of a sudden. I
was like, are you kidding me? No, maybe I didn't.
You know, I've said no when I've gotten the phone calls.
But it's just out of fears. Scary the very idea.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
But it isn't so commitments commitment.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Yes, it's a commitment. It's a scary commitment. I mean,
if you watch the show like I do, if you've
been watching every single episode since the beginning of time,
it's scary. You know what you're getting into. It's fun,
it's exciting. But I'm not Laura Geller, right. So I
was anonymous, and I was fifty three years old, and
I don't know what it's like. And I always think that.
I think I always wanted to feel what it feels
(13:18):
like to be Laura Geller or somebody who is well
known and you know what I mean, who does stuff. So, yeah,
it was an adventure back to you.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
I would like it so that I can get reservations.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
You're not tell me that you can't get reservations.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Oh no, I can't. I can't get into the Polo Bar.
I've been trying to get in there. I can't get into. No,
there's a couple of places I've been trying to get into.
I mean, if I call maybe my publicist, maybe she
can get me in. But not because i'ma but because
she's well known.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
But no, yes, because you're Laura Geller. And well, first
of all, I think they like it when you have
the publicist call more than if you call. Yeah, they
like you're just that's I mean, you can't get we're
going now, we're going to the Polar Bar.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
I want to go to the Polar Bar.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
I can't believe that you have not been I mean
not that I whatever I have been.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
I did fight for a reservation when my son graduated
from college. That was his after we had his ceremony.
We went there, but I mean on a regular basis,
I wouldn't mind going there. It's not far.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
You're going. Huh, that's it, you and me. You're going.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Oh, you can get us in.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
I've been a couple of times I can't get up.
We'll certainly out on my name. I'll get us in
saying that I'm going with Laura Geller.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Oh, Jen, you've been a knock at all.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
All right, we'll see, we'll see, we'll see. Don't challenge right, Okay, yeah, right,
So you guys, I know that you guys already know
who Laura is. I want to talk about makeup. I
want to talk about my favorite things that I've received
and the favorite my favorite things that I use that
are Laura and Geller's. But first, first to first, So
when we were at your party, and by the way,
(14:58):
it was the most wonderful party, thank I because the
people that you surround yourself with, I feel like are
like you. Everybody was so warm and welcoming. I agree, right,
it was a and I have to be honest, also beautiful.
I didn't. I mean everyone there was gorgeous. It was
like all different ages, all different shapes, form, sizes, races, ethnicity, everybody,
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but everyone the common thread was gorgeous.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
The hard party was I knew mostly everybody in that room,
and I couldn't talk to people.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
I was like it, that was it, that's always hard.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
So I felt guilty. It was it was over fifty people.
It was like close to sixty people. It was crazy.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
There's no guilt everyone. I never saw that much food
in my life. I've never eaten that much delicious food.
And it kept rest.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
East sixtieth and it's a Mediterranean restaurant, but there was
like an Italian flair to it.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
Yes, I was about to say that because I'm getting
very tired of every time I go out to dinner
it's a Greek food. And I was so excited. This
was like a mix and that there was Italian.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
It was so delicious, delicious because our even really the
holidays was everything was child gorgeous, like our products are
made in Italy. So yeah, therefore, I e why we
put in a My friend is the executive chef of
car Mines.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
So really that's why we got to do the sauce.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
So I grew up with him and Glenn Rolnick and
he put sauce in everybody. He just gifted us sauce.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
So that I have to tell you something. Carmines for me,
I've been going there for so many years I don't
care what, so it's always it is a tourist is
a very big touristy spot now, and so when I
suggest it, I sometimes have stupid snobby friends who are like,
oh mind, you cannot get better. I think it is
the most delicious Italian. This is so much fun. I
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love it there. If you're going to a show, it's
right there, or it's still in the Upper West.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Right, Yes, they still have one in the nineties.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
Absolutely, absolutely delicious. I love car Mines because it's so good.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Yeah, I think that I can get a reservation at
very easily.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Both. We're going to do both, okay, but you guys,
so while while I was at Laura's party, we were
talking about the fact that she was gonna come on
just Jen, and as you can imagine, I was overjoyed.
But I don't know how we got to talking about this.
But you did a podcast you said there's only only
been one where because everybody so wants a piece of
you and your makeup skills and your products, which I can't.
(17:31):
I have to be honest, I do too. I do.
I'm sorry, but I do want to talk about them
and get hips from anyway, but I can't help. But
also because I love you, so I know that you
don't get to talk so much about your story and
about you and who you are as a woman. And
I that's kind of what turns me on in life
right now, especially talking to women who are my age
(17:54):
and who are who have some stories, tell no things.
I think we're probably around this.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Now, my friend. I don't know about that six years old,
and I love you.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
You're sixty.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
I wish I was in my fifties again, because damn sixties,
you know, but I would It's so funny, you know
that question that people get, what would you say to
your younger self? And I always remember when I turned forty,
when I turned fifty, even when I turned sixty, remember thinking,
oh god, I can't believe in forty. I can't believe
(18:27):
in my fifties. Now I wish I could go back
and grab those years and not stress over getting older.
When I was owing forty, hello, owing fifty, and from
sixty to sixty six, that may be the fastest six
years of my life. I turned sixty six in August.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
And August what August?
Speaker 2 (18:50):
What August second, I'm August ninth. Oh, oh my lea.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Sister, oh queen, Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
I love it. I'm not su bit and so I
just yeah. I sometimes still can't believe it either. And
when you tell people, oh, you're and then they go,
you're sixty, and I'm like mm hm. Even they think
sixty six is something yours sixty six like that, You.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Know, I get that a lot. And I'm fifty six
and I get that a lot, and I say it
like you do. I'm proud of my age. I like
to say how old I am. I say it probably
too often, just even though now I really for me,
it's funny because fifty well maybe fifty one or two
to fifty six was a big change just in my body,
(19:36):
the way I move, the way I think, the way
I look, the way I all of it, all of it.
But I am definitely happier or two as I get older,
more self confident, less and secure, know what I want.
Boundaries blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Same.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Tell me, well, first, tell me what you spoke to
that other podcast person about it was your story, and
I know you don't get asked much about it because
everybody wants a piece of you. But I want to
hear about you and like, you know, because again I
want to hear about women my age ish and I
find it just fascinating to.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Your peace and well, that's why you're so good at
what you do, because you're really sincerely interested.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
And I amn't really no interesting to you.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
I'm so flattered, you know, I told I told you
about that podcast. So that podcast lives on QVC streaming channel.
There is a host that's very well known there named
Sean Killinger, and she started a podcast where she's interviewing
guests that are a guest on QVC. And she gave
(20:50):
me rose during the podcast, and I knew when she
gave it to May that I was going to start talking.
And I told Jen Weld you about that podcast because
I thought most of the time when I do a podcast,
when I'm fortunate to be a guest, people ask me
about my business trajectory and how did I start and
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you know where I how did I get to be
such a well known brand or things like that, But
a lot of people don't ask me personal things.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Yeah, I want to know. Yeah, that's what I want
to know. I mean, that's I want to know it all.
But I definitely would like to know that. It's funny
to me and like even you guys, there's so much
I could say. Okay, even Laura says it was a
she was asked about herself by a QVC host, like
you guys, don't I don't know if all of you
know about QVC and more, I don't know if you
know about how our products sold out in like some
(21:42):
ridiculous record amount of time, and like her QVC presence
and but again that's for the next podcast.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Now that I do, I would love to come back at.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Okay, so tell me tell me about but tell me
about I don't know, tell me about you know.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
The truth stuff is it's I always assume people know
my story. Not the world, but friends like yourself. I
just assume people know. And then when I did this podcast,
people listened to it, they were like I never knew that,
and oh my god, and I have a newfound respect
for you, and so I will share a little bit
(22:18):
with that with you. So I started my career at eighteen,
right out of high school. I was supposed to go
to college and was just going to college because everybody
else was. And then a friend stopped me and said,
what are you doing that for. You love the world
of makeup.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
You should people are. Where did you grow up in.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Rockland County by the Spring Valley.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Yeah, that's right here. I'm an Upper sent River.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Okay, so we left the Bronx when I was eight.
I still somehow have that Bronx accent.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
I think if I love it, I love it.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
I think I talked like my late mother. But when
I grew up in Rockland, and you know, everybody was
going to state schools and you know, just studying liberal
arts or whatever. You know, some others had professions. But
I wound up going to beauty school because her friends
said to me, I know you love makeup. I was
very creative. I wasn't somebody who liked academia, and so
(23:18):
I wound up going to beauty school in Spring Valley.
Long story short, I was miserable because you were learning
about hair, not makeup, and I wanted to learn makeup.
So the owner of the school felt compelled to have
to figure out what to do with me because I
said all right, so I have my license to do hair.
I don't want to do hair. So he sent me
in New York City to School of Visual Arts and
(23:40):
I studied theater and film makeup. So I did theater
and film makeup after studying it for most of my career.
I mean I worked on legendary, most esteemed Audrey Hepburn,
what I mean, they were older at the time. I
worked with Charles doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
You touched her face, yes, Audrey Hepburn.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
I even Rodger's legs, like I was like legs. I know, wow,
I know, I know, I got lucky. I worked on
a TV series that interviewed living legends at the time,
so many of them were older. But some of them
I got so close with because I was young and
I was I'm an mpath like you, and I would
(24:23):
let they knew that I wasn't starstruck because I was
a kid and I didn't really know their body of
work then, and they would talk to me, and some
of them cry to me, and they would invite me
to their homes. I mean, I have stories that go anyway,
long story shorts, which I'm going to try to give you.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
No, I want a long story long because of time.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
My career doing makeup in TV and film was for
many years. But then I realized people loved what I
did to them and wanted to buy the products that
I used on them. Because I was a good educator,
I would teach them how to do it. And I
never planned to have my own makeup line, but then
people would say, well, how do I buy that shadow
(25:05):
or how do I buy that blush. Then I found
this private label manufacturer and I would order twelve at
a time because you couldn't order one, you had to
order a dozen, and I'd stick a label on it
and work. And then I rented in an apartment in
the city in Hell's Kitchen, and my fancy customers were like,
what are you doing on Eighth Avenue in the fifties,
I only ever come here to go to Broadway. I
(25:26):
was like, well, it's you know, you get to come
see me and they were like, oh, but I'm not
coming back here. You got to drop off the makeup
and year if it was, it was like build it
and they will come. The customers really laid out my
career path like you should open a store. So then
I opened a store. You know, but years later. I
(25:46):
opened my store on the Upper East Side in nineteen
ninety three, and I was so having so much fun,
and I was so passionate about what I was doing
that it took up most of my life. Like I
I was dating. I had boyfriends, nothing really one serious,
but nothing that ended up in engagement of marriage. And
(26:09):
because I was so fueled by my career, I was
giving up my personal life, like friends were getting married
and I was like, oh crap, you know, like, oh
my god. And one day a client was in my
chair at my store. I said, you don't remember me.
I came to you when I was forty. I'm fifty now.
I always come to you for my birthday, she said,
And I'm an ob And I remember asking you when
(26:32):
you were younger if you wanted kids, and you said yes,
And she said how old are you now? I said, well,
I'm forty And she said, and what are you doing
about kids? And I said nothing, And she's like, well
what are you waiting for? You got to get moving
and she literally told me where to go on seventy
(26:54):
ninth Street and off of lex I was on seventy
fourth and lex I thought, that's convenient to a fertility doctor.
And I was dating this guy at the time that
I knew was like he was hot looking, but I
didn't want to marry him. And I told him I'm
going to see this for he goes, I'll come with you.
(27:14):
He came with me to the fertility doctor and the
doctor looked at me and went pointed to the guy
and said, I said, I don't want him to be
the father of my children, and goes, okay. I said,
I don't even know what he's doing here, and the
doctor said to me, well, if you want to get
your you got to get started.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
Now.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
You know, they didn't talk about freezing eggs back then.
I wish I had known about that, but I don't
even think that was an option. So he told me
what I had to do to have a child on
my own. And I spent a year getting injections. The
nurse from the office would come and sneak into my
(27:56):
store and I'd shut the room, the door to the
makeup room, and she'd give me a shot. And I
had a donor and I had my son on my own,
and I had him when I was just turned forty two.
So I started, like when I was in my early
forties forty forty and then I was He was born
(28:19):
on August twenty second, two thousand, and I had just
turned forty two, and I was blessed that I was
able to have a child on my own, and it
was not many people did it, and so I I
don't think about it like I think people look at
me and they go, oh, she was married, or oh
she must be divorced, or oh maybe she's a widow
like they. I don't know what people think. But I
(28:42):
told that story when I did that podcast. And I
have been on QBC twenty seven years and this host
knows me almost all of those years, and she was
in shock. She was in shock.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
And you know, my son is twenty four now, right,
My son's twenty So he was born in two thousand. Yeah,
mine May of twenty four. He's twenty four.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
And you know, he doesn't know it any other way.
He doesn't know it any other way. I mean, do
I wish I could have had the traditional marriage and
having children, But in many ways, you know, what he
never had was kind of what I had growing up,
which was not parents that had a good marriage and
(29:26):
lots of fighting. Him My parents got divorced when I
was eleven. There was never fighting in the house. It
was calm, and because of it, I really believe he's
so much more well adjusted than I was, because I
saw things no child should see when you grow up
with parents that don't have a good marriage.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
You know, yeah, I do know he did. I can't.
I wish. I hope that whoever's listening understands it. This
was see I get it because in nineteen ninety three
I saw your store. I would have died if I
could have. I was living in New York City. I
would have died if I could have would have thought
that all of these years later, I'm going to be
friends with Laura Geller. Oh, but like to have so
(30:07):
much going on in your career at that point, and
before nineteen ninety three obviously, and then to be it
was very progressive thinking, right, I mean, it wasn't that
long ago, but still right to say I want a baby,
and not only do you want a baby, but you're
going to be able to support this baby on your
own independent, which is what my grandmother always said to me.
(30:29):
Be independent, that is everything.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
And nobody ever told me that. Oh now, it's all
the time I saw my mother not be independent when
my father left. And I remember a neighbor who I'm
still friends with, my first friend growing up in Spring Valley, Jody.
At seven, I met her. Her mother was much younger
than my mother. She taught my mother how to write
(30:56):
a check. And I remember I wrote a letter to
myself when I was twelve years old, saying I will
never rely on a man at twelve. I have the
letter here and I will always give it framed. I
never framed it, and I actually I know it has
to be framed.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
Really it is. How unbelievable is that? That's ever, that's
your story, that's a you're twelve years years old.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
I said, I'm listening to my transistor radio. Listen to
Cousin Brucey right now on WABC, and in my bedroom,
my best friend is Jody Rosenwasser, and and I said,
I will o whisby success as something I don't. I
have it. I took a screenshot of it, so it's
on my phone.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
But I mean only because like who. First of all,
I don't know what the hell I said to myself
at age twelve. It wasn't I'll never have anyone write
a check for me. It was something along the lines
of I wish a boy would kiss me, and I'll
do anything. It was not that, but also just in
terms of who you are. That's so that's lately just.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
You could go one way or the other. Right, I
could have, you know, not been ambitious. And you know,
my sister she rest in peace. She was four years
older than me. She was shy, and she didn't take
it well and it affected her life.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
And and I was like, what did your family dynamic?
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Dynamic it got, you know, over the years, it got
to listen, it probably got I never got married, so
it definitely affecting me.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
But I think, do you think that's why. I mean,
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
I had I had a very very tumultuous, difficult childhood.
I mean I've got many many divorces, not just one,
and lots of what my I mean my parents, both
my parents have been married more than once, and like
right now, my well, my father is divorced, but I
have a daughter who's younger than my daughter. I have
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a sister who's younger than my daughter. There's lots of
weird dynamics in my family. My mother was divorced and
then married a guy and he passed away, and then
it's just it's a lot. It was a lot growing up,
and anyway, it's not about me. How did you promine myself?
I can only tell you that when you just said,
(33:10):
like the way that your son grew up with a
certain amount of peace and being conscious of that that
you didn't maybe have the same type of peace growing up,
I think that was so important to me. And although
my kids may tell their therapists something else, they grew up.
In my mind they are very blessed and I was
not a perfect mother. There are things that I would
do differently at one point. Yeah, we're not. And Jeff
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and I were separated for a year and a half
and I feel to this day, I know that was
really hard on them, but happily I had the brains
in my head to not divorce him and to get
back together, thank God. But you know, so they've had difficulties,
but I don't feel I can't. Maybe one day I'll
feel bad for them, but not today because they had
Jeff Professor, who was a much i think a better
(33:53):
parent than I was. But they had a lot of
peace in their life that I did not have. And
I made sure of it, and I made sure that
it wasn't screening and chaos. And so you understand I do,
I do, And I think your son is unbelievably lucky.
I hope that he knows it. I'm sure that he does.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
Oh he does. He he'll tell me, you know, he'll
say to me, Mom, like I realize when I go
to certain friends homes, you know, growing up or now today,
He'll say to me, I realize, like how like normal
you are, and like how lucky we are to have
our relationship the way we do because I look at
some of my friends that won't talk to their parents
(34:33):
about their private things, or you know, he sees the
dichotomy from his other friends and what we have. And so,
you know, as they get older, I think your children
too see that they do, and they recognize the work
you put into raising them. And believe me, they all
(34:54):
owe my stuff and the mistakes I made. And well,
although he'll say, no, you don't own it, but I
mean the thing is, I think they have a found
respect for knowing what we went through and how we changed.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
My kids, know, I mean, yeah, I've been definitely been
open with him about my own difficulties growing up. But
I just cannot I mean, I just can't imagine having
you as a mother. And also just I don't know
was how I feel. I don't know why. I'm not
sure that all my viewers understand. I don't know who's
listening or my listeners understand. Like for me again, like
(35:30):
nineteen ninety three, I know that you had a store
because I went there, like I so when I met
you at Margaret's, I was like, to me, it's just
your icnic. And now I'm picturing like your son and
having him, you know, on your own and being that
independent which is so important for women. And then I'm
almost a little jealous of your son, you know what,
I don't like him. I just decided to tell them
(35:53):
to fail. I'm jealous or I'm jealous of Lily.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
I don't know which Daniels really.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
Lily is Laura's sons a girlfriend? Yes? Who ire? But yeah,
that I mean, was it so? Was it hard? It was?
Everything is hard. Life is hard. Life is just that is.
I was talking about that in another podcast No.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
One Else when it comes away gay and my story
is not nearly as bad as other people's and or
so unique or it's and for me it's normal. But
then when I talked to people or I did that
podcast and people were like, I just assumed you were
men married. I just assumed you might be divorced or
(36:33):
you know, I realized that, like, I want to tell
my story. I want to tell my story because I
fought for everything. It wasn't easy, and I relied on
nanny's and maybe I didn't always pick the right ones,
and so I didn't.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
You can't, you can't.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
Yeah, it was hard, and I was working tirelessly. I
took him with me. I had to go to London
six times a year to do QBC in London, and
I would take him in the nanny or get a
sitter there, and I wouldn't leave him behind. Or if
I had to go, I went and did my job
and came back the next day.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
You know, he'll tell you no one to lean on.
I mean not just raising hid but now picture completely
being financially responsible.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
And I didn't have money then. I was working and clamoring.
My father used to say to me, I don't understand.
You have this store, you're paying this kind of rent,
You're working really hard. You don't have any money in
the bank. I was like, I put it all back
into inventory, into paying my employees in the store. And
I think it looked a certain way, but it wasn't
(37:42):
until I got an investment in my business in twenty twelve.
And it happened because of my store. A banker walked
by and dropped a note off saying, do you want
to sell your business? And I thought, I don't know
how that works. I don't know. I like being the
one hundred percent business owner. What did I know there
was no mentorship. I didn't know that that was a thing,
(38:05):
you know, private eye.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
We were working on Wall Street or in finance right
so far into me Jen so far? And so what
happened about?
Speaker 2 (38:13):
I called her and I said, wait, what do you
mean sell my business?
Speaker 1 (38:17):
It was a woman.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
It was a woman who I'm still friends with. We
just had LUNs. She took me. Subsequently, I sent her
a lot of people who own who have found her
own businesses and if it's the right fit, she represents them.
And she just sold a very big fragrance company home
fragrance company. And she took me to lunch at Casa Chipriani,
(38:38):
which was very nice, delicious, So we're still very close.
And she met with me and she said okay, and
I said, well, tell me what this means, and she's
and she explained. She said, somebody comes in, they buy
a piece of your company, You get a cash payout,
and you will own a piece of it. It'll be
(39:00):
a minority stake. And by that time, I was working
on QBC, still doing private clients, still doing some TV
and film, raising my child. I was like, what am
I doing? I need help. I needed somebody with the
business acumen that knew how to grow my business and
make it. And by the way, I was in Sophora,
(39:22):
I did that on my own, every Sephora door. I
don't know how I paid for it. I don't even know.
And so I just said to her, this was in
twenty twelve, Okay, what do I need to do. I'm interested.
And she said, well, you got to get your book together.
I'm like a book. What's a book?
Speaker 1 (39:39):
And business a book of.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
Like your five year plan and what your balance sheet
is and your p and ls and who your customers
are and you know. And I didn't have I had
an accountant, but I didn't really have somebody working for
me that knew how to put a book together to
present to you know, investors, and so I had to
(40:02):
do that and that took two years to find someone
who understood how to go backwards and put this book together.
And then she put me in front of different private
equity folks, some big, some small, and there was one
person who believed in my brand and my founder story
(40:22):
and really liked it. And I really liked him. And
there's more to that story, but I'll just leave it
at that. I sold a majority.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
Stake and he really liked him, I could tell, and.
Speaker 2 (40:38):
He invested in my business. And the one thing that
I got was financial security, which I never dreamed in
my life i'd have, right and because everything I made
went back into you know, paying for my son's school
and you live in the city, you got to make
sure you're paying for schools and just everything. So I
(40:59):
having that financial security came at a cost. It did
come at a cost. And so everybody who's listening right
now who thinks that the ultimate thing is to start
a brand or start a service or whatever it may be.
If you're listening and you have an idea and you
think the exit strategy is the win, it doesn't come
(41:22):
without paying a price, I'll just leave it there.
Speaker 1 (41:26):
And I don't want you to leave it there. And
I can't. I know, I said's okay, but I'm saying
privately we will have to discuss it because I can't.
I mean or not, but I'm I'm happy.
Speaker 2 (41:37):
To to offline. But you know, I did Margaret's podcast
a long time ago. I said, I can write a book,
but I'd have to change the names to protect the guilty.
And she said, I said this, she said, those are
my words exactly. I'd have to change the names to
protect the guilty.
Speaker 1 (41:55):
So anyway I hate them, I will have to get
their names in numbers, because now I just hate their guts.
Wherever they are, may they rotten hell.
Speaker 2 (42:03):
Well, you know what the truth is, people, it's it's listen.
I'm sure, Jeff, I'm sure you've heard stories. Listen. Margaret
had a story too. It's not easy when you sell
your business. It's not easy, you I mean, I was
happy to give up and relinquish the power because I
(42:25):
didn't want it anymore. I was so done with it,
you know, you know, firing, hiring, doing the books, doing
every I just wanted to be a makeup artist and
create product and do marketing. And that was all I
ever wanted, but I got thrust it into having to
learn it and on the spot. So you know, I
(42:47):
was happy to give it up, but that that was hard.
Speaker 1 (42:50):
That was hard. We'll talk, okay.
Speaker 2 (42:54):
I'll tell you.
Speaker 1 (42:56):
I love so much this podcast because I I love
doing podcasts. A podcast now it's one in particular because
it's just I could just listen to you forever. Now
we're going to have to talk a little bit of makeup.
Good Okay, yeah, good, okay, So here's your thank you
(43:19):
guys of mine.
Speaker 2 (43:20):
That is your favorite.
Speaker 1 (43:22):
I'm gonna be honest with you, it's the miscake because yes,
I'm holding it right here.
Speaker 2 (43:28):
Do you know, I'm going to tell you a secret.
And in twenty seven years, I've created probably probably close
to a dozen different formulas of mascara. And I say
this on air, which is something that's very risky to say.
I have never created a mascara that I love as
much as this one. It's the one. Really insane.
Speaker 1 (43:48):
Okay, So I'm right. Just so you guys know, we
didn't talk about this before beforehand, And I'll tell you
since i've been doing the housewives or whatever. It's a
lot of like learning about putting on lashes, and I
still to this day, I can't do it. There's side
sticking out. And when I when I started using fake eyelashes,
it made such a huge difference, right, and I love
(44:09):
the way it looked, and I just I'm really bad
at it. I just I can't stand it. There's always
it is. I do it sometimes, but I have a
very hard time. So. But lashes, I never knew how
important they were right until I started using fake ones.
But I always used different Miss Scueras. I used Georgia
Ormani a lot. I thought that was actually really really
good one. Your Miss Scarra is the only one. I mean,
(44:32):
I'm wearing it now obviously, but like and I didn't.
I can put it on though, and make my lashes
as long as fakes. It's so fabulous. I love it
because I put products I like best, like bring down
here for I'm telling you right now, and I this
is the first one I picked.
Speaker 2 (44:46):
Yeah, I have to tell you. I could not believe
when my product development teams gave me a submission, I said,
is this going to come out like this? Like when
we actually make it because sometimes you get a submission
and you say yes to it, and then when it goes,
when it's automated and it's put on the line, you
get it and you're like, that's not what I signed
off on. This mascaret is the best thing I have
(45:12):
ever created in miscarras, the best and I.
Speaker 1 (45:16):
Where are you guys? We did not have this discussion beforehand.
I literally wanted to bring down my favorite couple things.
I love absolutely everything that you make. The muscarra is
you said, what's my favorite? That's my favorite?
Speaker 2 (45:29):
I wanted to know.
Speaker 1 (45:30):
I've known and I've tried fifty six years old. I've
tried many, many, many many muscarras, of course, and I'm
not a makeup artist, so I didn't realize how important
lashes are. But they change, yeah, so dramatically, they change
your eye.
Speaker 2 (45:43):
Yeah right, yep, yep, this one. And I'll tell you
why you like it. And I always told this to
my team when they were making one. It has to
be thick the formula. It has to be creamy and thick.
If you take a mescara out and it's like wet,
you you know, and it's not the floppy because it's
not so messy, but it will never volumize your lash.
(46:04):
The thicker the formula is, the more it volumeizes. So
we were able to get that sort of perfect in
between of lengthening and volumeizing. I know this could be
boring for some people.
Speaker 1 (46:16):
No, to me, it's not. It ain't more boring to me.
I love makeup. Also, there's that I'm not great at makeup,
but I love makeup. Hey, during COVID, I started watching
the makeup videos and what else was I gonna do?
Just for fun? I wasn't going anywhere. There's something very
I found something very therapy.
Speaker 2 (46:32):
That's why I went into it. Really, I loved I
loved how therapy for me. It gave me so much peace.
I loved doing it to people. Oh my god, I
missed doing it. I truly miss it because.
Speaker 1 (46:48):
Well, your friend Jennifer lives in New Jersey. If if
you miss it, I'll be here waiting for you. Okay,
the products that I love.
Speaker 2 (46:56):
Yeah, people still ask me, will you do my wedding?
I go now you want me to. I'm going to
be coming with a cane soon and five room glasses.
I mean I I Anyway, it's soothing. There's something soothing
about it.
Speaker 1 (47:10):
I love your bronzer. I love your bronzer. It goes
on so easily, so smoothly. And speaking of putting things on,
I do love your makeup brushes. You have one. I
didn't even bring it down here, but it's one practable one.
It's the one that you.
Speaker 2 (47:25):
Oh, I love that party. We got to do this.
Speaker 1 (47:27):
Yes, yes, I love that. I love to put on.
Speaker 2 (47:30):
They had somebody engraving and that is gorgeous. Yeah, they're
cruelty for me.
Speaker 1 (47:34):
So you guys, I love that brush.
Speaker 2 (47:38):
Yeah, it's a great brush.
Speaker 1 (47:40):
It's a great brush.
Speaker 2 (47:42):
This bit, this baby is my of all things.
Speaker 1 (47:45):
Because it does everything. It's the blush, the highlight of right,
the puts it all together.
Speaker 2 (47:49):
Is that why?
Speaker 1 (47:50):
For you guys?
Speaker 2 (47:51):
This one is your bronzer, your blush, highlight shadows and
two highlighters, one that has a low blow and one
that has a little bit of luminosity to it. Kyle
Richards said she keeps this in her car because when
she shows up places, if the paparazzi are outside, she goes,
opens this up, takes her brushing, goes like this that
(48:13):
she walks out of the car.
Speaker 1 (48:14):
She literally has everything. Yeah, I know, so I am.
There's the thing is I've now I've always worn Laura
Geller always there it is you guys, best of wait,
put it up again, my loves well the best of
the best, best of the best, right, a full face, right,
and they should just sign up.
Speaker 2 (48:30):
On Laura Geller because we have sales that are embarrassingly
like we give it away. Like people are always like, oh,
I just ordered, and sometimes I feel bad. I'm like, oh,
I would have sent it to you, and then I
realize they do things for like sixty percent off seventy
to sous.
Speaker 1 (48:47):
Yeah, because not only I've been wearing Laura Geller also
but my sister, my mother. And that's the other piece,
you guys, is that it's not just for you know,
it's very easy to do a young person's face, right,
That's true here, right, it's trickier. So also the products
and I think my listeners are probably more my age
than younger, I don't know, more our age than younger
about like you have to be careful, right, because the
(49:10):
products that will work on your face now are not
the same products that would work exactly right.
Speaker 2 (49:15):
Yeah, And funny enough, young people love my line I mean,
we don't eliminate.
Speaker 1 (49:19):
We cater to. My daughter is taking my ship all
the time, that's a fact. And you've given me so
many beautiful things, so she doesn't even She's just a
little sneak. So I'll just like notice that the things
are gone. But I so, yeah, yeah, I love your
makeup brushes. I also love your foundation, and I love
your primer. Oh yeah, so I brought this downstairs like
I tried to bring my I thought, well, I love
(49:40):
the brushes, but this primer mind is in the champagne luminosity, right.
Speaker 2 (49:44):
Yeah it does.
Speaker 1 (49:45):
I love it, and I love it the other guys.
I love everything I love.
Speaker 2 (49:49):
I love that you love it. Did you ever try
the casals byeliners?
Speaker 1 (49:56):
No? Okay, I guess you know why. I don't know
a pens. I always use a liquid eye liner.
Speaker 2 (50:01):
Okay, that's fine?
Speaker 1 (50:02):
Is that? But do you tell me because I just
don't know how that is your liner list? Well, not
the liquids, because you know what happens the brush on
the liquids. They always come apart, like all of a sudden,
like the little bristles and then I'm putting on the
liquid eye liner and I'm getting it up here and
down here. Because the bristles are all.
Speaker 2 (50:21):
The bristles can touch the other parts of the eye.
So it's not a thin pencil as you can see,
which I like. So when you do a line, it's
not going to be precise. We do have pencils that
do that too. These casals are our number one selling
probably our number one selling item. We can't keep them
in stock. They're liners that are so rich we call
(50:43):
them because the pigment is very rich that once you
put them on, they don't come off until you're ready
to take them off. They don't transfer like some people
open their eyes and they get like a thing here
or they where the liner starts getting not so steep
in color.
Speaker 1 (51:00):
Jen.
Speaker 2 (51:00):
If we didn't send these to you, we're sending them
to you. People are obsessed with these.
Speaker 1 (51:06):
When you put them on, you said, it doesn't always
make that exact lunch. Do you blur it afterwards?
Speaker 2 (51:11):
Idea is listen, I wouldn't do it under because then
it will be too thick. You could do it inside.
They're meant for inside too, but.
Speaker 1 (51:20):
We do waterline anymore. We get to a certain age,
are we still doing that? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (51:24):
I mean I don't do it, but you can. It
doesn't you know, it doesn't. It doesn't make your eyes
look smaller, but it comes up. Although these make these
will stay on more than other traditional ones on that inside.
But when you do it and you walk it across
like that, like one swipe to wonderful but rich and pigment,
and they don't move, they just don't move.
Speaker 1 (51:44):
I mean.
Speaker 2 (51:45):
The only thing is people don't like that. They when
this is this is brand new, so they you get
that point, but there's a sharpener in the back and
I just because I'm lazy, I take my tissue and
I just go like this and I bit back and
forth to get that point. Or you can wipe with
an eyeliner brush like an angled eye liner, wipe it
(52:07):
on the formula and do it that way if you
want more precision. It's just I don't don't even know
what's in this liner. Don't ask me, right, people are
obsessed with the with the liner. I can't keep them
in stuff.
Speaker 1 (52:17):
Well, I have to go out tonight. I told you
i'd never want to, but I do have one of
my best friend's birthday dinners, so I think I don't.
I'm not sure, but I did get a beautiful package.
Speaker 2 (52:26):
To good so you'll go through a week. I bet
you we sent you some cood. I would be shocked
if we didn't, because we would always send our most
favorite things. Like they say, oh you do have them,
and you know why they they sent me the products
that you were sent, Sarah.
Speaker 1 (52:41):
I literally just got it this morning thing, so I
didn't have a chance. But okay, so I will report back.
Speaker 2 (52:47):
And the light of the colors you can use as
an eye.
Speaker 1 (52:49):
I was about to ask you or under your lower lash,
because I'm all about okay, because I'm all about now
what is what is fast?
Speaker 2 (52:58):
Like?
Speaker 1 (52:58):
What I'm not like? So you're saying you could use them,
so you put them in the crease. The other light.
Speaker 2 (53:03):
Colors would be lid lid on your eyelid, and but
you got to blend it in the second or take
a brush, because once these are on, they set like
in twenty seconds.
Speaker 1 (53:14):
Yeah set it. I mean, do you use it? Can
you use your fingers out as good as I use
my fingers.
Speaker 2 (53:18):
I use my fingers. So I'll take this like the
light like this is like an antique bronze color, and
I'll put it on my lid. Then I take my
finger and I go like that. Then I take the
dark line and I just go across my And sometimes
that's all I do is as far as my shadows go.
I always do brow. I I'm naked without my brow,
and they didn't send you my brow, which is the
(53:41):
most wonderful thing in the world. Do you you don't
need brow? Do you like you don't you have good brows?
Speaker 1 (53:46):
I use brow. I mean I'm not great at it.
I use like an anti seizure or something. I just do.
Speaker 2 (53:51):
We have somethingle Bravo brow, which you also need. It's
powder suspended in a gel, so when you go to
put it on, it's soft looking.
Speaker 1 (54:00):
It's not like because your brows are gorgeous.
Speaker 2 (54:02):
Yeah, I mean I have nothing here. These bread pencil
is insane.
Speaker 1 (54:08):
Okay, well I need it. I just I can't actually
buy it. I mean now at this point I think
I probably should. I can't just keep expecting free product
from my favorite make artist. But I love sharing this.
I love you and tell me to wrap up. I
love you so so much. Thank you for I really do. Laura.
You are such a special woman. I'm sure everyone says
(54:29):
that to you, but you are a very unique by
the way, I would like a guy warm and wonderful.
What about a guy that's our next conversation. I mean, hello, like, all,
why why do you go on Golden Bachcherette? I think
you would be unbelievable Let them ask me. I mean,
you know who you're published. I know that you have
the best publicist.
Speaker 2 (54:45):
On the Golden Bachelor. I don't even want to go
on the Golden Bachelorette. I just you know, I'm putting
it out in the universe, not manifesting. I'd like, I
just would like to meet a nice man, companion friend
to go out and travel and have fun with. We
don't have to get mad, We're not looking for that.
Speaker 1 (55:01):
Just why would you? Right exactly? I mean I always
say that about Jeff, like I'm very lucky in that
forget everything else. He is my best friend. So it's
nice to have a companion in that way, right, And honey,
you and I are going to have to have that discussion.
That's our next discussion off or online.
Speaker 2 (55:16):
Polo bar Carmines. Else do we say, Well, you must
have some good haunts that you like. You'll let me know.
Speaker 1 (55:23):
No, I think it's you that are going to show me.
Speaker 2 (55:25):
I'm happy to leave this city.
Speaker 1 (55:26):
Why would I ever have you come here when I
can go there, Nuts, I'll meet you in New York, Okay.
I love you. I love you, love you so much
to thank you, Thank you my friend.
Speaker 2 (55:39):
Part's forever. Talk to you soon.
Speaker 1 (55:41):
Bye,
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