December 31, 2024 • 47 mins
Jackie and Jen reflect on the ups and downs of this year. What has been the most challenging thing they’ve faced?
And, how do they really feel about still not knowing the fate of RHONJ?
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hey everyone, it's Jackie Gilitschneider and Jen Fessler and we
are two Jersey Jays and happy almost New Years to everyone.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Be almost New Year's. I'm actually quite excited that we
are side by to twenty twenty four.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
I am too, But why are you?
Speaker 2 (00:20):
I mean, I think this very very hopeful for twenty
twenty five. It's been a hard year. I think it's
been a hard year for everyone. It's been a hard
year for our country. It's been not to start out
as Debbie Downer, but you know, it's been so divisive.
What's happening in Israel has plagued us both, I know,
and it's still happening all year. I'm hopeful for some
(00:42):
peace and some exciting change in the new year. Yeah,
I'm with you, but it hasn't all been bad. But yes,
I must say, as a Jewish woman, I have carried
a weight on my shoulders every single day. And not
not that the anti Semitism that's like destroying the world
(01:04):
right now has impacted me so greatly, but I think
living in a.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Town that has a hostage, so there's a hostage from
my town, and it's I think about that family all
the time, and I just I'm really sad. I'm sad
I think about you know, when I look at the
girls that are being held hostage, but they look like
the same as my daughter, you know, And it's really
(01:30):
hard to take myself out of that and say this
is about other people, because it's not like I'm is Israeli.
And it's just been hard. It's been hard to know
that's still happening every day. We haven't really spoken about
it a lot here, I know, because it's politically divisive,
which shouldn't be. I mean, there should be no political
divisiveness to the fact that like you support creating these
(01:53):
innocent hostages and.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
That you're against anti Semitism, yeah, which is running rampant.
But anyway, for another time.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Yes, so let's talk New Year's because like it's here,
I know, what are you doing? What's your plan?
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Well, actually, by the time that you guys are hearing this,
I'm going to be on a plane home from Mexico,
which I'm so excited about it.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
That's nice. Get out of the snow weather a little bit.
It's so cold. I feel like it just went from
like summer to winter and now with the time change,
like it goes from if there's no afternoon, it's like
morning and then it's nighttime. You know. So I'm going
to nice bro, Yeah it will.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
I'm going to celebrate on the day though, so going
to a friend's house. We're all going to be in
pj's and I'm going to bring over some black eyed peas,
which is a very Southern tradition. You have to eat
black eyed peas on the New Year. Poor good luck.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Oh. I love that. I went to a pajama party
at a friend's house the other day. We did a
cookie swop, Like everybody baked cookies and then we put
them all out. There was like twenty of us and
we put all the cookie platters out on a table
and everyone went around and took home like four of
everyone else's cookies for themselves. My kids. You loved it
(03:08):
and crazy. Yeah. So okay, So New Year's Eve, you're
gonna be in Mexico. New Year's Day, you'll be with
your friends. That's really nice.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
I'll be flying home from Mexico, so I'll probably be
a little depressed, but then New Year's Day, I will
be with my friends.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Yeah, that's nice. That always feeds yourself. I love being
about your friends. I really prioritize my girlfriends. I love
I love being around them. It always makes me feel
good when I am with them. What about like lately
with you? I'm sorry, interpt.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
I just I feel like lately, ever since like the show,
I just see you with your friends, like very often
on have prioritize them. It's since the show has been
on pause. It's a very different feel, right, It's like.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Yeah, I'm I'm like, you know, I love the show
and I do hope that it keeps going. But in
the meantime, I'm like enjoying a little bit of the break,
right I am. I'm trying out new projects. I'm prioritizing friendships.
I really have extra time for my family. It's been nice. Yeah,
it's been good anyway. So you know, for many years,
(04:12):
Evan is not the partier than I am. I could
go out five nights a week, and he likes going
out about once a week, and then he's hit his
social max and he's busy. I mean, he works full time.
He's always with the kids at basketball, and he likes
to sit on the couch and he doesn't care. You know,
he's not ashamed of it. But he does like to
(04:33):
go out, like once a week, but that's his night out,
and that's fine. But New Year's we've got into this
routine of not doing anything. And I was okay with
that for a while, but now kind of feeling like,
you know, now one of my almost seventeen year olds
loves going out. So if he's gonna be out and
I have to wait up for him anyway, and I
(04:55):
probably have to pick him up, then I might as
well go out, right. So I don't know, we're trying
to decide now because we've, like for a decade, have
not done anything.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
I don't love New Year's Eve and I don't love
going out, so both of those combined, I mean, Jeff
is it's always very surprising to people that know us
that Jeff is way more interested in going out at night.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Like, so maybe maybe I'll send Evan to your house
and you can hang on the cap at him. You know,
I love that, You know I love that Evan Goldschneider. Yeah,
he's a cutie. So let's see. So let's let's talk
about the year a little bit, so we are ready
at the top. You know, talked about some of the
ships and there's no denying there was shit, and on
(05:39):
both sides of the political aisle there were shits. Right.
That was ye, so divisive. I've never seen an election
like this in my life.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
It's horrible. Process leading up to it was horrible. It's
I know that for some people they're they're still in morning.
Some people are thrilled penceil you ask, but divisive for sure.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Yeah, I just hopeful. I mean like, it is what
it is, So there's no point in being thrilled, upset
whatever it is, what it is. Now let's see, right, yes,
now let's see. So, Jen, what was the best thing
that happened to you this year? Something good?
Speaker 2 (06:19):
No, it's like you know you always as a mom,
I my first thought is always like I always feel
good when good things happen to my kids. Right, So
it's that And my therapist would probably say learn to separate,
probably very dysfunctional, But I think about my kids just
being having good things happened to them. Zach got into
(06:39):
law school, which is which is so exciting. Rachel moved
into the city, which she absolutely loves, and she's working
in pr and she loves that, and so those things
occur to me. But probably that's the wrong way of
thinking about it, right, Like, no.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Why being a mom is such an amazing part of
your life. And also like it's not just your kids
accomplishing them Like they're accomplishing this because they have a
support system behind them and because they know that you're there.
I mean, don't take yourself out of your children's accomplishments.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
I absolutely agree with that, But I like everything else,
you know, I want to have my own things going on,
and I think it's so helpful, especially for an empty nester.
So we've had a few really you know, fun things.
I mean, this podcast, well that happened last year.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
But still but like we got renewed, We're yes, we
got nude. That was exciting.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
I loved, I am loving having the segment that I'm
doing on page six. I don't know you guys, have
anyone's listening to it, but on page six I talk
about pop culture with Evan and Danny, Like that's been
really fun in a way to sort of separate out
of the housewives world. We don't discuss housewives, but we
discuss what's going on, you know, all around the world,
(08:03):
just pop culture, so nothing deep, and it's fun to
just sort of be still in front of the camera
a little. And but it's different dynamic, right, It's these
two fabulous men and we all love each other. It's
a big love fest and we laugh and we're a
little shady at times. But nothing that's going to get
me killed. So yeah, that's been really fun. What about you?
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Yeah, the best thing that happened to me this year.
I don't know. It was a tough year. I mean
I think just that, like this is going to sound
silly and cliche, but just that everyone is like healthy
and happy, you know, Like I just like nothing, you know,
(08:48):
I had a challenging year. So in January, Aiden, my
my one of my older twins, we were at the
Madonna concert the night that he broke his knee, mean right,
and he broke his knee, he broke his leg. He
had a horrific surgery. He was home for a month
(09:08):
after that. He was in so much pain. It was
I was crying, like all day. I slept. I had
slept in a bed with him downstairs because he couldn't
move and so he was immobile. So it was a
really hard month. And then I homeschooled him and then
(09:29):
he finally made his way back into sports by May,
and in July he broke his shoulder. So it's been
you know, like watching your kids suffer through something and
I know that you've been through this too. It's really hard,
you know, it's hard. Now that all my kids are
like healthy and doing well, I'm kind of like savoring
(09:54):
that part of it. Like the fact that I'm not
like said about it. I'm getting is a thing. I
get that.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
What they don't tell you about having kids is that
you are always, at least for me, I'm even in
my happiest moments, I'm a little nervous, like I'm always
or you know, I'm thrilled when my kids are happy.
If they're not, it affects me. It's a very difficult.
You know, you have this part of yourself that you
(10:22):
have no control over, right, and you shouldn't. I mean,
the kids have to live their own lives. It's how
you raise them. But you're always sort of just a.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Little bit on edge. Where are they what are they doing?
Are they good? Yeah? Especially now I two that are
gonna start driving soon, and I how do I do that?
Like I am said, I don't mind driving with them
and teaching them to drive and do it all the time.
But I'm so nervous for them to get their license. Yeah, nervous,
(10:52):
it's not that is not easy. Yeah, there's so much that.
I mean, I'm always worried because my daughter is a
chronic illness. You just type in my beads and that's
always kind of something that's you know, with me, I'm
thinking about.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
And but then other stuff there. Yeah, when when both
my kids got their licenses, I was a nervous wrap.
I wouldn't even I couldn't be in the car with
them teaching them. So that was all about jeff. Oh,
I couldn't bear it. It was I freaked out, which
freaked them out. I just I had no.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
But we also we haven't really been on many highways.
We haven't done anything super challenging. So that's the come
But okay, so what was the most challenging thing that
happened to you this year and how did you?
Speaker 2 (11:38):
I would say that, well, actually, I've been looking at
these questions a little bit, and I would say that
it's challenging and rewarding to be an empty nester. I
know that again back to the kids, but there are
times where I've sort of walked around my house, and
especially with the show being on pause and and it's
(12:02):
trying to figure it all out. You know, I'm at
the age now fifty six and what does the rest
of my life look like. It's it's an interesting thing
to consider. And also like being in this house. I
mean this, I'm suburban New Jersey in this you know,
colonial with we're paying taxes for the schools, and like
what's the point?
Speaker 1 (12:21):
So what are we? What is our next step?
Speaker 2 (12:23):
So that's always on my mind and I think that
has been a challenge, but also it's been at times
of delight. My house is well not always need the
kids to come home a lot, but like you know,
just waking up jeff Lee's at six thirty every morning.
And there are days I'm really busy, and there are
days that I have nothing going on. The days that
I have nothing going on, I think I get in
(12:45):
a slump. I get a little depressed. And the days
that I'm yeah, but.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
You had so much going on the other days, you
don't just savor those days. It's like I can relax today.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
You know, I think it might seem like I have
so much going on, Like on social media, if you
follow myself for media, although I don't think I posted
that much recently, but I'm posting like events I'm going
to right and I'm I'm posting stuff that I'm doing,
which yeah, I mean that definitely takes time and keeps
me busy, but on a daily I'm not necessarily like
(13:15):
I do the page six thing. Once a week, you
and I record our podcast, you know, that's that's an
hour every couple weeks.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
It's so I'm always.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Posting about those things or I'm going to an event,
or I'm but there's a lot of downtime for me
now without having the kids in the house, and you know,
I fill it with friends. And I actually knew this
year is working out, and but I'm always better when
I'm busier, when I've got something like my One of
my favorite times was when I was writing the song
(13:47):
when I was learning guitar and writing the song for
the end for the finale of the Housewives.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Oh yeah, that was a great song.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
So that was one of my favorite things that happened
this year, was writing that silly song. That was just
I love doing that so much. It's so it was
so creative and it was I don't know. It was
so satisfying for me. And then, of course, in true
gen festal form, I didn't pick up the guitar again
(14:13):
when it was over.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
So, but oh didn't you write Challenge Part two? Yeah?
But then yeah, that was pretty soon after. Oh okay, oh,
and you haven't written. You know, I play the piano
so and I know every time my house is empty,
I play. I can't play when people are home because really, yeah,
because they don't like the noise from it. But also,
(14:37):
like I don't know, they like make fun.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Of me, right, they make fun of me, to think
at my house they associate piano with like something I
forced them to do when they were little, and I
really just went back to it.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
But I'm very good. I'd like, I want to get
a I want to get like a ten to twenty
song rotation that I can play just by heart. And
I want to I want to play in a band
one day. That's like a bucket list thing for me,
just for one day, just one night only, Jackie Goldschnighter,
one night only. I love that.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Playing a band, Yeah, I love that. So twenty twenty five, baby, yeah,
let's see, let's see.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
I have a couple of projects that I want to
accomplish in twenty twenty five. But funny thing that happened
to you this year? I can't think. I don't know
any like I'm sure I have. I'm sure we're going
to sign off from this, and I'm that was the
funny thing that happened to me this year. I'm trying
to remember, Like I did laugh a lot this year,
but I don't know. I don't know if there was
(15:37):
anything particularly really funny.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Well, I went to Vietnam with Jeff this year, and
we laughed our way through that trip. Whether it was
we went on this uh these motor scooters what they called,
I don't know what they could pads, the mopads or
whatever it is, so we circle around them. I'm want
(16:01):
to say, was it in it's gone. I don't remember exactly,
but uh, we stopped off. The tour had a stopping off.
It was like a food tour, and we were so
sick to our stomachs by the time it ended. There
was so it went on for hours, and I just
remember like he and I trying to be so polite
(16:22):
to these tour guides and both of us being there's
just and you know, and being with him, just him,
would that far away. We always have were always able
to make fun of each other and laugh, and that
whole trip we were it was one of those like
moments in time where we were in awe of Vietnam
(16:43):
but also just hysterical the entire time. The culture is
so different than ours and you know, getting used to
that and being I don't know, on fishing boats and
we it was fun and we laughed a lot.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Yeah, probably traveling. Yeah, we went to we took the
kids to Europe the first time. We went to Italy.
We spent a week in Rome with the kids, and
it was just amazing. I am like, I was flabbergasted
by how many people watch the show that were in Rome.
I got stopped constantly, Like Vietnam, you watched the show,
especially people from like London, people from Canada. They love
(17:23):
these shows. They watch all of them. I don't think
I watched any shows from overseas.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
It's true though, I remember when I was in in Rams,
I got stopped a couple times. Yeah, like in weird
places like shopping or whatever.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
You're Worldwidefesla, I'm worldwide, baby. Let's fast forward just for
one second, since we're on the topic of shows, I
have to tell you I just watched a show. I'm
not going to ruin it obviously for anyone, and I
really liked it all the way through, and then my
(17:59):
mind was is freaking blown in the last episode. It's
called Disclaimer. Have you watched that? No with what's her name?
Oh god, that blonde actress. I'm blinking right now. That
was a hold on, let me remember hold on one second.
It was Kevin Kleine n Klein, the woman who's married
(18:23):
to Sean Penn, who's absolutely Robin Wright. No, no, she
was married to him a million years ago.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
He's married Sean Penn. Now I thought he was just
new young Sorry, okay, yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
I think I think Leila George is married to Sean Penn.
Oh no, she was married to him for two years.
She's much much younger than him. She's absolutely stunning. It's
called Disclaimer. Okay, really good. The last episode really blew
me away. So watch it. If you haven't watched it,
watch it, well, absolutely watch it. This was I watched
(18:58):
a lot of TV this year. I have to say
I did a lot of TV. Did you watch that?
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Yeah, Well that's the thing is that like when I
am home and I have the day, I'm such a slug. Also,
so we talked about this, Jack, But like if I'm
home and I've got nothing going on, I'm in my
bed period.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Really, Oh I'm cleaning out clothes. People aren't, no way,
but I'm crazy. Yeah, well I'm crazy too, But I'm
crazy in the bed, and I well crazy in the bed.
You know. Well don't let's not be silly.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
But I am streaming and eating and talking on the
phone and staring at the TV while I'm looking at
my other device whatever. But yeah, I stream a lot.
I'm very grateful for what.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Do you watch reality shows? Or do you watch because
I know people are always looking for like a show
to watch.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Yes, I definitely watch reality shows. So it's a lot
of that. So you know, we've talked about this. But
I don't know if you know this about me, But
I'm a Housewives junkie.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
So you watch all of them?
Speaker 2 (19:54):
I'm just kidding, but no, I do. I watch most
of them, not all of them, but I watch most
of them. Yeah, and I have watched New York this season.
I haven't. I need to watch Salt Lake City. I'm
behind on Beverly Hills just by like one episode. But
I've watched all the Potomac me too. I watched all
(20:15):
of Orange County. That was fantastic. Yep, yeah, I'm but yeah,
I gotta watch Salt Lake City.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
I heard it's great, so well. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
So it's a lot of time spent on reality TV
for sure. And then Jeff is always suggesting something that
I don't know. We're always what do we just watch
My God Cross with Alex? The guy's name is Alex Cross.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Oh yeah, that's James Patterson.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Yes, yeah, yeah, which I loved until I didn't read
those books.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Yeah. Watch. We watch a lot of House Hunters. We
love it. Play it like a game. Yeah, so like
we pause after they've seen all the houses. You know
how it works, right, like the real estate agent takes.
We only watched the international ones so we can like
fantasize about living somewhere else and not that New Jersey
is not like fabulous. But they they take the person
(21:07):
or couple to three different homes and then we pause
it and we bet which house they're gonna choose, and
it's so much fun. But it's like formulae, like one
person always wants to live in the city center, and
one person always wants to live in the suburbs, and
one person always wants to be by the water, and
one person always wants to be walking distance to the town.
(21:30):
You know. So it's like, but it's really fun and
it's mindless, and it's a half hour and it's easy.
It's all about the mindless TV. I mean, listen, and
we love Amazing Race. Actually, do you watch that? No,
we watch every season. We love it. I don't watch
HG TV only because it's on.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
It runs on us in the Manic ever has it on?
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Yeah, and they have a subtitles? Yeah? Yeah? What about
what about movie anything? You know, I haven't seen that
many movies in the movie theater. I've watched a few
on airplanes that I was like, I watched that one
that we talked about a long time ago. We did
an episode you and I on what was the topic,
but it was we were talking about the Anne Hathaway movie.
(22:18):
Maybe it was Our Intimacy one or I don't remember,
but we were like, oh, it was about being middle
aged women and being sort of like the forgotten years,
you know. Yeah, And I watched that Anne Hathaway movie
where she falls in love with the lead in the
rock band and he's much younger than her. Yeah, and yeah,
(22:41):
I remember that. You were like, I loved that movie. Yeah,
I love The movie that I'm dying to see is like, no,
I'd like to give you. But every movie I'm dying
to see is like it's in the theater for like
a minute and then it's out, like it's just in
the city.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
So I haven't discovered. I have rediscovered movie theaters this year.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
I like them too, but I'm not going to travel
an hour for it. So we saw We went to
the premiere of that that Roadhouse one. That was good, fine,
you know. Me and my girlfriend went on a girl
date to see Beetlejuice and that was fine, you know,
But I don't think I've seen anything really mind blowing.
(23:24):
But I'm dying to see Honora. You know that movie Anora,
And I'm also dying to see I love a biopic,
and I'm dying to see the Timothy shallow May one
Bob Dylan. I'm not so really, I don't.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
I'm not a huge Timothy shallow May fan, and I'm
not a huge Bob Dylan fan.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
I'll see it. We'll say, well, I'm not either. But
my favorite movies of all time A lot of them
have been is it biopic or biopic? It's biopic, right,
I don't know. I don't know either.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
I don't know, but I do love the ones, especially
when they're about musicians. I mean, yeah, so like John
Even was good.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
We use my favorite and growing up, my favorite favorite
movie growing up was Great Balls of Fire. I loved
it so so hot. There's a scene in that movie
that still makes my hair stand up. It's like when
he's playing a whole lot of shaking going on and
the whole bar starts dancing. Oh my god, like scene
still think about.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
If that movie was out now, okay, because what when when?
Speaker 1 (24:28):
What's his name? Who? What's his name? No? Yeah, but
who what's his name? That he played Great Balls of Fires? Who? Oh?
Jerry Lee Lewis right, Jerry Lewis He married like a
thirteen year old or something, And like I don't remember
at the time even discussing that, like it wasn't even
right or even like in the nineties, like Jerry Seinfeld
(24:48):
was dating a seventeen year old Shawna. Yeah, I love
oh you could never although you do have Bill Belichick
dating like, Oh, I can't even with that, right, I mean,
it's just what's the appeal? I don't what, I don't know. Anyway,
we're going off on a tangent. But wait, I want
to talk about my favorite movie. Did you grow emotionally
this year? Wait?
Speaker 2 (25:08):
I'm not fun talking about the movies because I want
to do it that I loved. I did love Wicked,
by the way, but but everybody, Oh, I didn't see
it amazing and we saw it at the IPIC, which
is like undercovers with the chicken fingers, and it was
just incredible.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
But anyway, Oh, can I just tell you one thing
though that bothers me about Wicked is that Kristin Chenowith
used to like me and message. I used to talk
to her sometimes on Message and she followed me and
she doesn't like Teresa and so she has unfollowed me.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
So I kind of that is heartbreaking. Although you do
know that Kristin chen well, she is in Wicked, she
is in this one, which was I understand that, and
I feel badly for you because I there's first of all,
Wicked was just unbelievable, but also I love me some
Kristin Chenow with I wish you hadn't told me that.
(26:00):
Now I'm sure she's lovely. I was Dimonzel, the very
minor friendship. Well this so the movie that I loved
was called A Real Pain and it was with Kieran
Coulkien and Jesse Eisenberg and it's about these cousins. I
don't want to give anything away, but they travel. Their
(26:23):
grandmother dies and so they travel. I'm going to get
this wrong, and it's so ridiculous. I want to say
they travel to I think it's Poland, right, Yeah, I
was going to say Germany. And it wasn't. Thank you, No,
I heard of it. It was really quite incredible, and
the acting in it was so superb over the top ridiculous.
(26:48):
Narent's the one who's in succession. Yes, correct, is unbelievable, unbelievable,
and he plays like this, this kind of a manic
young man, and Jesse Eisenberg plays this very uptight person
and they But the beautiful thing about it was it
was a lot about the Holocaust and finding their grandmother's
(27:11):
childhood home and talking about they I don't want to
give anything away, but it was so beautifully done. Really
haven't seen a movie like that where I walked away
just you know, feeling like I had been sort of transported. Yep,
it's called a real pain.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Tell me if you have grown emotionally or spiritually this year,
certainly hope.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
So, since I pay almost two hundred dollars a week
for therapy, yeah, tell you.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
I had therapy this morning and.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
We spoke about about Rachel, about my daughter, and she
was going through something over the last couple of days.
And I've learned she's twenty two years old. When she
goes through something. We started out talking about this, but
when she goes through something, not to take it on
as my own, and not that I'm always there when
(28:10):
she needs me, but she could be going something through something.
I attached to it in my mind. I can't let
it go. It's on my mind all day. And then
she resolves whatever it is, and I'm you know, I
spend a whole day it's just a little dysfunctional. So
I feel like I've grown in that. In this particular instance,
I kind of separated. I said, she's twenty two, and
I trust that she could handle this, and I'm going
to give her the space to handle it, so that
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that's I.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
Hope one way. And my son who is in law school,
who is.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
Not doesn't have time now to call mommy every day,
and you know, so to also take a step back
and know that he's doing his thing and not to
be overbearing, which I tend to be. So I feel
like I've grown in both of those days. Maybe also
I've gotten I've gotten more patient this year. I think
(28:57):
that show being on pause has been so strange for us,
and I have been doing it like you have, Jack. Obviously,
I've only been doing this for I did it for
two years and different yeas.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
But you know what I say, I think that that
that that makes you want it more than me, Like
not that I don't want it, but like I've had
it for a long time, and I'm okay, if this
is the end of the road, I'm totally fine. It's
not about it just got started with the excitement. The
not knowing. Yeah, that bothers me. I'd like either to
know what my job's going to be or to have closure. Yeah,
(29:30):
I mean, that's that's what I mean.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
My patience though it's like and everyone's always asking us,
right and we don't we have no idea and guessing
game and all of that.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
So patients, Okay, what about you. I have grown emotionally.
I've had to well, you know, I'm still you know,
in recovery, and i still make like baby steps every day.
And it's not it's not super easy for me. It's
easier or harder. No, Well, the problem is that, like recovery,
(29:59):
getting rid of like the big stuff, like the not
eating getting rid of that was great. I was so
excited adding new foods to my diet. Great, so excited.
But it's like the little things, like the nitty gritty
like it's like the not being afraid of specific foods.
It's like the not feeling guilty after a meal. It's
(30:19):
like the not overthinking before a restaurant. Like the little
teeny tiny day to day things. Sometimes they are a
little bit hard for me. I've gained some weight over
the past few months, and that's been a little bit
hard for me. Not because I don't I mean, the
trade off is worth it. The trade off of having
that freedom is worth it. It's just it doesn't seem fair
(30:42):
to me because I'm not like going crazy, I'm not
eating everything that I love to eat. I still work
out daily and like to gain weight when you're not
doing anything that warrants gaining weight is hard, especially when
like so many people around me are slimming down, you know.
(31:03):
So that's been hard. But also I feel like I
feel very empowered that, like I'm in control and how
I feel about it, and so I'm proud. I choose
to be proud of it instead of being ashamed of
it because I'm still like, I'm still me. It doesn't matter,
you know, a few pounds up, a few pounds down.
I'm enjoying letting myself fluctuate because I've never had that before.
(31:26):
You know, for twenty years, I had to keep my
weight within a one pound range or else. It like
drove me crazy, and I don't weigh myself, but I
know I've gained weight. So just being okay with that,
I feel like, is something that I've never had before.
Even in my first like two years of recovery, the
weight was really uncomfortable for me. Like now it's it's
just part of me and like it is what it is, right,
(31:49):
So I feel like that's a big, big growth for me.
I've also calmed down down one thing I'm really proud
of this year. It's no surprise the show was not
great for me this year, right, And it's fine and
it's done, and like the hatred has stopped. But for
a month, for like a month, I got horrific social
(32:12):
media hates. And that's fine. But I'm really proud of
signing off of social media for a month. I went
off at the beginning of August and I didn't go
back until the beginning of September or the end of August.
And that was so great because all the shit really
just exists in your phone, right, Like, yeah, I really
(32:34):
hates you, Your friends don't really hate you. My friends
couldn't give a shit about it, right, Like your family
doesn't care. So it really just exists in your phone.
So I think that was one of the wisest things
that I've ever done, was just the leading it for
a month. And I think I would have caused myself
(32:54):
a lot of distress had I not. And it makes
me want to in the new year kind of change
my relationship with social media more. Yeah, I think it's
really no. I think that's a great goal. I think
for all of us. Did you hear the TikTok is
getting abolished in January. I didn't hear January. I thought
I'd have to go through your more legal processes.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
But I could be wrong. I think I just heard
that like this morning. I probably heard it on Titch.
Just got on TikTok too. Guys follow me, and so
I took Jackie Goldschneider. I'm scared to look at it.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
I haven't looked at it at what the page is,
but I have to have you come up for me.
Like usually if it was that like Jackie Gold one
hundred or something like that, I should check what my
name is. Because someone took Jackie Goldschneider. I'm fairly confident
there's not other Jackie gold Schnyders walking around. I'm at
Jackie Gold one hundred and I only share eating disorder content.
But I don't know what the other Jackie gold Schnyder.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
According to what I saw on TikTok, It's not going
to matter much longer anyway, but I guess we'll see
you know when.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
I gos ANITA Gala this year. I hosted the National
Eating Disorder Association Gala this year and so amazing one
of the most amazing highlights of my year, Like I
can't believe how I try. I want to say full circle,
but it's not full circle because I wasn't at that
point to begin with. But like half circle? How half
circle I've come? Yeah, I love it all right? Favorite
(34:14):
song this year? I mean, the thing is that, like
I'm always listening to old songs. I'm you know, I'm listening.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
I put on It's totally embarrassing, but I'm like listening
to eighties music and seventies music and more than huge huge.
I don't listen to pop. I'm a huge all rock person.
I know that always freaks me out about you. Oh,
I love it weird much.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
There there were a few songs that I loved this year,
but I have to say my favorite is there's a
band called Cage the Elephant. Do you listen to them?
So they put out a new album a song called
Neon Pill that just gets it. I just love it.
I love Hosier too. Oh he's so good.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
I mean you're talking like we're going jingle ball in tomorrow. Actually, yeah,
it's gonna be so much fun. I'm so excited. But
if if truth be told, I don't I mean Katie Perry, right,
Sizza's Sabrina Shaboozy Shaboozy, I don't think so good, I
have to say in terms of pop Sabrina Carpenter song
(35:19):
taste is so I have a teenage daughter, and like,
so I feel like an idiot sometimes when I like,
I'm like running, you know, when I run, I put
on music, I like, I don't want to run to
the stuff that like she's listening to with her friends
and doing tiktoks too, you know, because then I feel like,
I don't know, I feel like I'm right, it's her style.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
I know. No, I totally get that. I totally get
that funny, like it's so funny and this is off topic,
but like god, how did how did we get old
so fast?
Speaker 2 (35:47):
I was just I mean, you're talking. I can't even
have that discussion with you. You're a baby.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
I'm not a baby, Jet, you're a baby. Comparatively, I
mean six, you are, I'm year and a half. Okay,
you're forty eight. I don't know, Jackie. The difference is
it's huge.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
I mean, fifty six and at forty eight, I don't
even think I was feeling my age like after fifty
my age No, I mean like, I don't think I
was even that qu like now fifty six. It's things
are different, Like my body feels different. Even sometimes when
I would watch myself on camera, the way that I
(36:31):
move felt I was watching myself. And of course we're
our own worst critics, but I felt like I was
moving like an old person, you know. And also that
probably is one of the reasons why I started exercising
again and lifting weights. But like I remember watching back
when Rachel Fuda had this had the pajama party.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
Do you remember that?
Speaker 2 (36:49):
Yeah, silly stuff, but watching myself walk from her boyer
into like where her bar area was or is, and
I remember, We're just seeing that back and thinking, you
you walk like an old person.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
You know. It's like I never saw you walk like
an old well you would, I mean you probably wouldn't
because you're not looking for that. But it's weird. It's
like the aging thing is is, Yeah, maybe working out
we'll help with that. You find strength. Okay, So let's see.
Let's see what else. The best meal you had this
year was your best meal in Vietnam? Vietnam, Oh my god,
(37:27):
my best meal if anyone is visiting Rome, was in
like by far, hands down, no comparison. In a town
called Trustevere, there was a restaurant called Taverna Treloosa that
was I mean just Evan and I were just staring
at each other the whole meal, like, did you try this?
Did you try this? It was unbelievable that it was unbelievable. Yeah,
(37:49):
it was so good. Favorite trend, favorite trend? Gosh, what's yours?
I am so surprised to hear myself say that I
love the barrel jean, do you I that's so funny
that you say that. I think you have to.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
Find the right one bow legged. So I didn't like
it either until I found the right one. I just
bought a pair of page and I love them really
and yes, yes, And I can't put on skinn jeans anymore.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
No, I don't wear my skinny jeans. I'm wearing wide
leg right now. But I have not tried barrel jeans yet.
Maybe I will try them. I'm shocked that I love them,
but I love them all right. I love that. I
actually nice. This year, I've been wearing a lot of
those New Balance three twenty seven sneakers. Yeah. Oh, I've
sorted wearing a lot of sneakers. I like it, like
a chunky white sneaker. I've been like really into. So
(38:46):
all right, so let's let's get into our hopes for
the new year. Do you make resolutions? No?
Speaker 2 (38:55):
No. When I was younger, it was always lose weight.
Right every year, it was the same thing, and up
until the New Year, I would bringe, like literally, I
would think it's coming, it's coming on New Year's Day,
and then on New Ye's Day, I would say, well,
it's New Year's Day. You have to eat and I'm not.
You know, we've talked about that that. I've also had
suffered with eating disorders at times in my life, but.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
That was always the resolution.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
It was always to lose weight, which I don't do anymore,
like at all, And I don't really do resolutions, but.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
Do you know what, It's not that I do likes
like hardcore resolutions, but there are things that I'd like
to see happen. They're mostly like career goals because obviously
I can't resolve to have my children behave in certain ways.
You know, when they're good kids, I just want them
to be happy, So they're mostly like career goals. I
(39:47):
have a lot of career goals and a lot of ideas,
And every day I throw shit at the wall and
see what sticks, and ninety nine percent of it doesn't stick,
but that one percent that does is really exciting. So
I think I have like a whole bunch of things
that I have to consistently remind myself to stick with
because I love immedia gratification. But you know, this year
(40:09):
I read this book Atomic Habits. Do you read that?
And it was talking about God. They had the best
analogy and it was like, you know, you leave an
ice cube on a counter in a room, and if
you gradually heat the room up from like zero degrees
to thirty one degrees, nothing is going to happen to
(40:31):
that ice cube. But the minute it hits thirty two degrees,
that ice cube is going to start to melt. Right,
So it's everything you did up until that point that
prepare that ice cube to melt. It wasn't just that
one thing of hitting thirty two degrees that made it happen.
It was all the steps before that, Right, So I
have to consistently remind myself that planting the seeds and
the little things that don't actually make anything like go boom.
(40:54):
Are what leads up to that you know, gratifying moment
where something does happen for you, So planting a lot
of seeds, you know, and so I have to stick
with it. That's my resume definitely. That's actually something I
did learn.
Speaker 2 (41:06):
I have to say this year, this past year, is that,
like I can, I hate the word manifest and let
me not use that word, but but I do have
an ability to think, wow, what about this and then
put it into play, which I think that I struggled
with for so long. I mean, I created a business
and I always say this is going back when I
(41:28):
was fifty. But the reason that I stuck with it
was because I brought people into it, and I people
invested emotionally in it and financially and so you know,
in f major and so there was no squirming out
of it, because MY tendency through the years has been
to have a big idea and then you know, squirm
and and sort of just like not really you know, dedicated, But.
Speaker 1 (41:50):
You busted your ass with that. I remember the first
time I met you years ago.
Speaker 2 (41:57):
No I know, but that was again, I mean, I
I had put myself into busines where I couldn't square
them out. So but but I have this past year,
I've had like what about this?
Speaker 1 (42:05):
What about this?
Speaker 2 (42:06):
And actually putting that into motion, you know, like the
Housewives thing. I got a call from a casting director
and then that I didn't have to do much except
to show up, you know what I mean, I didn't.
Speaker 1 (42:18):
I wasn't creating a show or creating something for myself.
Speaker 2 (42:20):
That was more like I got an opportunity and I
happily took it right, but actually coming up with stuff
now again, while we're we don't know what the future is,
you know, of the show, and I've been able to
do some things I don't know that I'm I'm pleased
that I've been able to put things in motion this year,
and I will I hope, I hope that I'll be
(42:41):
able to do that again.
Speaker 1 (42:42):
Yeah, it's kind of exciting not knowing what will happen.
Like as long as my the people I love are healthy,
then I'm kind of like excited to see like what happens.
You know.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
You know, I have a friend who is just had
some just found out that he's having some health issues,
some serious ones, and yeah, I mean it just changes.
Speaker 1 (43:07):
Everything right in an instant, right, and I'm yeah, And.
Speaker 2 (43:10):
I want to say when I think about the coming year,
my part of part of it. I'm not trying to
say this that I'm so altruistic, but like, I just
think about my dear friend and I want to be
able to be as strong for her and make this
if I can, in any way easier, and like it'll
(43:31):
be a good year if I can help. I mean,
I had another friend years back who was diagnosed with
ovarian cancer and for a few years she passed and
this friend won't but thank god. But anyway, the point
is that it was hard. It was really hard to
(43:52):
be a close friend of someone going through that way,
harder for her than it was for me. And as
I look when I look back at it, I think
I did everything that I could to make it easier
for her. You know, That's the only thing that was
gratifying in any way about it, is that I think
I helped make it.
Speaker 1 (44:11):
Yeah, you're a really good friend. I'm not trying to
be like I think the important thing that I want
to carry into the new year is that like there's
never there's never a year where everything is great. There's
never a year where everything's bad. There's never a time
in your life. You know. I used to wait a
lot and say I'll do this when things ease up,
(44:31):
and I'll do this when I'm not like said about something,
And there's never going to be that time. You just
got to like do what you do and let life
be life, you know.
Speaker 2 (44:41):
And no one gets away Jack, That's what I tell
my kids. No one gets away, no matter what in
it might be a small thing that you think is
small or big or not.
Speaker 1 (44:50):
But the struggles real period, full stop. That's I guess. Yeah.
And we got these drones flying over New Jersey and
who knows what the inside of them? Right, I don't
talk about those. That's freaks. How we actually make it
to the new year, give me God forbid? That is
it's in my chai. Wow. Yes, people intend if we
find we're taking.
Speaker 2 (45:09):
Pictures of them, I don't get it, and no one
can figure it out, I know.
Speaker 1 (45:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (45:14):
Yeah, let's hope you're still here on Earth without the
Martians twenty in them.
Speaker 1 (45:21):
Okay, So message for listeners next year, God, I would say,
follow through on the things that you are dreaming about,
because it's really easy to let your dreams die in
your head because things take effort, you know, and be
okay with rejection. I'm saying that out loud for me
(45:44):
also because rejections are part of it and I hate rejection.
But yeah, yeah, well.
Speaker 2 (45:51):
I said, I don't really make don't really make resolutions,
but I would recommend therapy for anyone who's not in
his because I do feel like each year I I
do grow. I grow, like we talked about a little
bit emotion bestationally and.
Speaker 1 (46:09):
Yeah, therapy is the greatest gift you can give yourself.
Speaker 2 (46:12):
I would agree with that. I would agree with that. Okay, then,
well listen, and I also hope in twenty twenty five,
you guys keep listening to us, and I hope that
we are. I don't know if either we're amusing you,
or you can relate, or you don't feel and we
talk about certain things, maybe you don't feel so alone.
You know, we try. I think with Jersey Jays, we
(46:34):
both tried to be honest and open and because that's it, right,
It's all about connecting with people. So I hope we
get to continue that in twenty twenty five. Yeah, we've
had some fantastic guests.
Speaker 1 (46:45):
Some we have here. It's your favorite. I just have
such a thing from my ambilliti.
Speaker 2 (46:51):
Iknew you're going to say that. I knew you were
going to say that. I really do like I love her.
Speaker 1 (46:56):
I love that she's an unabashed nerd. I love how
she stands by love fiction. She's such a talented actress,
like everything. I love everything about her. I know you do.
Speaker 2 (47:05):
And I loved love her and loved that episode.
Speaker 1 (47:10):
And I think one.
Speaker 2 (47:12):
That really affected me was Maria Minunos, which we did
pretty recently, and I thought.
Speaker 1 (47:16):
Oh yeah, we called each other after that. We were
just like flabergasted. She is a force, she really is. Yeah.
So that was a good one, so good one. Some
great guests in twenty twenty five and some fun topics
and some some more success And I love you. I
wish all of you guys a happy new year and
(47:37):
we will be healthy. Bye.
Hey everyone, it's Jackie Gilitschneider and Jen Fessler and we
are two Jersey Jays and happy almost New Years to everyone.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Be almost New Year's. I'm actually quite excited that we
are side by to twenty twenty four.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
I am too, But why are you?
Speaker 2 (00:20):
I mean, I think this very very hopeful for twenty
twenty five. It's been a hard year. I think it's
been a hard year for everyone. It's been a hard
year for our country. It's been not to start out
as Debbie Downer, but you know, it's been so divisive.
What's happening in Israel has plagued us both, I know,
and it's still happening all year. I'm hopeful for some
(00:42):
peace and some exciting change in the new year. Yeah,
I'm with you, but it hasn't all been bad. But yes,
I must say, as a Jewish woman, I have carried
a weight on my shoulders every single day. And not
not that the anti Semitism that's like destroying the world
(01:04):
right now has impacted me so greatly, but I think
living in a.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Town that has a hostage, so there's a hostage from
my town, and it's I think about that family all
the time, and I just I'm really sad. I'm sad
I think about you know, when I look at the
girls that are being held hostage, but they look like
the same as my daughter, you know, And it's really
(01:30):
hard to take myself out of that and say this
is about other people, because it's not like I'm is Israeli.
And it's just been hard. It's been hard to know
that's still happening every day. We haven't really spoken about
it a lot here, I know, because it's politically divisive,
which shouldn't be. I mean, there should be no political
divisiveness to the fact that like you support creating these
(01:53):
innocent hostages and.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
That you're against anti Semitism, yeah, which is running rampant.
But anyway, for another time.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Yes, so let's talk New Year's because like it's here,
I know, what are you doing? What's your plan?
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Well, actually, by the time that you guys are hearing this,
I'm going to be on a plane home from Mexico,
which I'm so excited about it.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
That's nice. Get out of the snow weather a little bit.
It's so cold. I feel like it just went from
like summer to winter and now with the time change,
like it goes from if there's no afternoon, it's like
morning and then it's nighttime. You know. So I'm going
to nice bro, Yeah it will.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
I'm going to celebrate on the day though, so going
to a friend's house. We're all going to be in
pj's and I'm going to bring over some black eyed peas,
which is a very Southern tradition. You have to eat
black eyed peas on the New Year. Poor good luck.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Oh. I love that. I went to a pajama party
at a friend's house the other day. We did a
cookie swop, Like everybody baked cookies and then we put
them all out. There was like twenty of us and
we put all the cookie platters out on a table
and everyone went around and took home like four of
everyone else's cookies for themselves. My kids. You loved it
(03:08):
and crazy. Yeah. So okay, So New Year's Eve, you're
gonna be in Mexico. New Year's Day, you'll be with
your friends. That's really nice.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
I'll be flying home from Mexico, so I'll probably be
a little depressed, but then New Year's Day, I will
be with my friends.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Yeah, that's nice. That always feeds yourself. I love being
about your friends. I really prioritize my girlfriends. I love
I love being around them. It always makes me feel
good when I am with them. What about like lately
with you? I'm sorry, interpt.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
I just I feel like lately, ever since like the show,
I just see you with your friends, like very often
on have prioritize them. It's since the show has been
on pause. It's a very different feel, right, It's like.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Yeah, I'm I'm like, you know, I love the show
and I do hope that it keeps going. But in
the meantime, I'm like enjoying a little bit of the break,
right I am. I'm trying out new projects. I'm prioritizing friendships.
I really have extra time for my family. It's been nice. Yeah,
it's been good anyway. So you know, for many years,
(04:12):
Evan is not the partier than I am. I could
go out five nights a week, and he likes going
out about once a week, and then he's hit his
social max and he's busy. I mean, he works full time.
He's always with the kids at basketball, and he likes
to sit on the couch and he doesn't care. You know,
he's not ashamed of it. But he does like to
(04:33):
go out, like once a week, but that's his night out,
and that's fine. But New Year's we've got into this
routine of not doing anything. And I was okay with
that for a while, but now kind of feeling like,
you know, now one of my almost seventeen year olds
loves going out. So if he's gonna be out and
I have to wait up for him anyway, and I
(04:55):
probably have to pick him up, then I might as
well go out, right. So I don't know, we're trying
to decide now because we've, like for a decade, have
not done anything.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
I don't love New Year's Eve and I don't love
going out, so both of those combined, I mean, Jeff
is it's always very surprising to people that know us
that Jeff is way more interested in going out at night.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Like, so maybe maybe I'll send Evan to your house
and you can hang on the cap at him. You know,
I love that, You know I love that Evan Goldschneider. Yeah,
he's a cutie. So let's see. So let's let's talk
about the year a little bit, so we are ready
at the top. You know, talked about some of the
ships and there's no denying there was shit, and on
(05:39):
both sides of the political aisle there were shits. Right.
That was ye, so divisive. I've never seen an election
like this in my life.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
It's horrible. Process leading up to it was horrible. It's
I know that for some people they're they're still in morning.
Some people are thrilled penceil you ask, but divisive for sure.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Yeah, I just hopeful. I mean like, it is what
it is, So there's no point in being thrilled, upset
whatever it is, what it is. Now let's see, right, yes,
now let's see. So, Jen, what was the best thing
that happened to you this year? Something good?
Speaker 2 (06:19):
No, it's like you know you always as a mom,
I my first thought is always like I always feel
good when good things happen to my kids. Right, So
it's that And my therapist would probably say learn to separate,
probably very dysfunctional, But I think about my kids just
being having good things happened to them. Zach got into
(06:39):
law school, which is which is so exciting. Rachel moved
into the city, which she absolutely loves, and she's working
in pr and she loves that, and so those things
occur to me. But probably that's the wrong way of
thinking about it, right, Like, no.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Why being a mom is such an amazing part of
your life. And also like it's not just your kids
accomplishing them Like they're accomplishing this because they have a
support system behind them and because they know that you're there.
I mean, don't take yourself out of your children's accomplishments.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
I absolutely agree with that, But I like everything else,
you know, I want to have my own things going on,
and I think it's so helpful, especially for an empty nester.
So we've had a few really you know, fun things.
I mean, this podcast, well that happened last year.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
But still but like we got renewed, We're yes, we
got nude. That was exciting.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
I loved, I am loving having the segment that I'm
doing on page six. I don't know you guys, have
anyone's listening to it, but on page six I talk
about pop culture with Evan and Danny, Like that's been
really fun in a way to sort of separate out
of the housewives world. We don't discuss housewives, but we
discuss what's going on, you know, all around the world,
(08:03):
just pop culture, so nothing deep, and it's fun to
just sort of be still in front of the camera
a little. And but it's different dynamic, right, It's these
two fabulous men and we all love each other. It's
a big love fest and we laugh and we're a
little shady at times. But nothing that's going to get
me killed. So yeah, that's been really fun. What about you?
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Yeah, the best thing that happened to me this year.
I don't know. It was a tough year. I mean
I think just that, like this is going to sound
silly and cliche, but just that everyone is like healthy
and happy, you know, Like I just like nothing, you know,
(08:48):
I had a challenging year. So in January, Aiden, my
my one of my older twins, we were at the
Madonna concert the night that he broke his knee, mean right,
and he broke his knee, he broke his leg. He
had a horrific surgery. He was home for a month
(09:08):
after that. He was in so much pain. It was
I was crying, like all day. I slept. I had
slept in a bed with him downstairs because he couldn't
move and so he was immobile. So it was a
really hard month. And then I homeschooled him and then
(09:29):
he finally made his way back into sports by May,
and in July he broke his shoulder. So it's been
you know, like watching your kids suffer through something and
I know that you've been through this too. It's really hard,
you know, it's hard. Now that all my kids are
like healthy and doing well, I'm kind of like savoring
(09:54):
that part of it. Like the fact that I'm not
like said about it. I'm getting is a thing. I
get that.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
What they don't tell you about having kids is that
you are always, at least for me, I'm even in
my happiest moments, I'm a little nervous, like I'm always
or you know, I'm thrilled when my kids are happy.
If they're not, it affects me. It's a very difficult.
You know, you have this part of yourself that you
(10:22):
have no control over, right, and you shouldn't. I mean,
the kids have to live their own lives. It's how
you raise them. But you're always sort of just a.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Little bit on edge. Where are they what are they doing?
Are they good? Yeah? Especially now I two that are
gonna start driving soon, and I how do I do that?
Like I am said, I don't mind driving with them
and teaching them to drive and do it all the time.
But I'm so nervous for them to get their license. Yeah, nervous,
(10:52):
it's not that is not easy. Yeah, there's so much that.
I mean, I'm always worried because my daughter is a
chronic illness. You just type in my beads and that's
always kind of something that's you know, with me, I'm
thinking about.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
And but then other stuff there. Yeah, when when both
my kids got their licenses, I was a nervous wrap.
I wouldn't even I couldn't be in the car with
them teaching them. So that was all about jeff. Oh,
I couldn't bear it. It was I freaked out, which
freaked them out. I just I had no.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
But we also we haven't really been on many highways.
We haven't done anything super challenging. So that's the come
But okay, so what was the most challenging thing that
happened to you this year and how did you?
Speaker 2 (11:38):
I would say that, well, actually, I've been looking at
these questions a little bit, and I would say that
it's challenging and rewarding to be an empty nester. I
know that again back to the kids, but there are
times where I've sort of walked around my house, and
especially with the show being on pause and and it's
(12:02):
trying to figure it all out. You know, I'm at
the age now fifty six and what does the rest
of my life look like. It's it's an interesting thing
to consider. And also like being in this house. I
mean this, I'm suburban New Jersey in this you know,
colonial with we're paying taxes for the schools, and like
what's the point?
Speaker 1 (12:21):
So what are we? What is our next step?
Speaker 2 (12:23):
So that's always on my mind and I think that
has been a challenge, but also it's been at times
of delight. My house is well not always need the
kids to come home a lot, but like you know,
just waking up jeff Lee's at six thirty every morning.
And there are days I'm really busy, and there are
days that I have nothing going on. The days that
I have nothing going on, I think I get in
(12:45):
a slump. I get a little depressed. And the days
that I'm yeah, but.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
You had so much going on the other days, you
don't just savor those days. It's like I can relax today.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
You know, I think it might seem like I have
so much going on, Like on social media, if you
follow myself for media, although I don't think I posted
that much recently, but I'm posting like events I'm going
to right and I'm I'm posting stuff that I'm doing,
which yeah, I mean that definitely takes time and keeps
me busy, but on a daily I'm not necessarily like
(13:15):
I do the page six thing. Once a week, you
and I record our podcast, you know, that's that's an
hour every couple weeks.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
It's so I'm always.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Posting about those things or I'm going to an event,
or I'm but there's a lot of downtime for me
now without having the kids in the house, and you know,
I fill it with friends. And I actually knew this
year is working out, and but I'm always better when
I'm busier, when I've got something like my One of
my favorite times was when I was writing the song
(13:47):
when I was learning guitar and writing the song for
the end for the finale of the Housewives.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Oh yeah, that was a great song.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
So that was one of my favorite things that happened
this year, was writing that silly song. That was just
I love doing that so much. It's so it was
so creative and it was I don't know. It was
so satisfying for me. And then, of course, in true
gen festal form, I didn't pick up the guitar again
(14:13):
when it was over.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
So, but oh didn't you write Challenge Part two? Yeah?
But then yeah, that was pretty soon after. Oh okay, oh,
and you haven't written. You know, I play the piano
so and I know every time my house is empty,
I play. I can't play when people are home because really, yeah,
because they don't like the noise from it. But also,
(14:37):
like I don't know, they like make fun.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Of me, right, they make fun of me, to think
at my house they associate piano with like something I
forced them to do when they were little, and I
really just went back to it.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
But I'm very good. I'd like, I want to get
a I want to get like a ten to twenty
song rotation that I can play just by heart. And
I want to I want to play in a band
one day. That's like a bucket list thing for me,
just for one day, just one night only, Jackie Goldschnighter,
one night only. I love that.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Playing a band, Yeah, I love that. So twenty twenty five, baby, yeah,
let's see, let's see.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
I have a couple of projects that I want to
accomplish in twenty twenty five. But funny thing that happened
to you this year? I can't think. I don't know
any like I'm sure I have. I'm sure we're going
to sign off from this, and I'm that was the
funny thing that happened to me this year. I'm trying
to remember, Like I did laugh a lot this year,
but I don't know. I don't know if there was
(15:37):
anything particularly really funny.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Well, I went to Vietnam with Jeff this year, and
we laughed our way through that trip. Whether it was
we went on this uh these motor scooters what they called,
I don't know what they could pads, the mopads or
whatever it is, so we circle around them. I'm want
(16:01):
to say, was it in it's gone. I don't remember exactly,
but uh, we stopped off. The tour had a stopping off.
It was like a food tour, and we were so
sick to our stomachs by the time it ended. There
was so it went on for hours, and I just
remember like he and I trying to be so polite
(16:22):
to these tour guides and both of us being there's
just and you know, and being with him, just him,
would that far away. We always have were always able
to make fun of each other and laugh, and that
whole trip we were it was one of those like
moments in time where we were in awe of Vietnam
(16:43):
but also just hysterical the entire time. The culture is
so different than ours and you know, getting used to
that and being I don't know, on fishing boats and
we it was fun and we laughed a lot.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Yeah, probably traveling. Yeah, we went to we took the
kids to Europe the first time. We went to Italy.
We spent a week in Rome with the kids, and
it was just amazing. I am like, I was flabbergasted
by how many people watch the show that were in Rome.
I got stopped constantly, Like Vietnam, you watched the show,
especially people from like London, people from Canada. They love
(17:23):
these shows. They watch all of them. I don't think
I watched any shows from overseas.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
It's true though, I remember when I was in in Rams,
I got stopped a couple times. Yeah, like in weird
places like shopping or whatever.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
You're Worldwidefesla, I'm worldwide, baby. Let's fast forward just for
one second, since we're on the topic of shows, I
have to tell you I just watched a show. I'm
not going to ruin it obviously for anyone, and I
really liked it all the way through, and then my
(17:59):
mind was is freaking blown in the last episode. It's
called Disclaimer. Have you watched that? No with what's her name?
Oh god, that blonde actress. I'm blinking right now. That
was a hold on, let me remember hold on one second.
It was Kevin Kleine n Klein, the woman who's married
(18:23):
to Sean Penn, who's absolutely Robin Wright. No, no, she
was married to him a million years ago.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
He's married Sean Penn. Now I thought he was just
new young Sorry, okay, yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
I think I think Leila George is married to Sean Penn.
Oh no, she was married to him for two years.
She's much much younger than him. She's absolutely stunning. It's
called Disclaimer. Okay, really good. The last episode really blew
me away. So watch it. If you haven't watched it,
watch it, well, absolutely watch it. This was I watched
(18:58):
a lot of TV this year. I have to say
I did a lot of TV. Did you watch that?
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Yeah, Well that's the thing is that like when I
am home and I have the day, I'm such a slug. Also,
so we talked about this, Jack, But like if I'm
home and I've got nothing going on, I'm in my
bed period.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Really, Oh I'm cleaning out clothes. People aren't, no way,
but I'm crazy. Yeah, well I'm crazy too, But I'm
crazy in the bed, and I well crazy in the bed.
You know. Well don't let's not be silly.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
But I am streaming and eating and talking on the
phone and staring at the TV while I'm looking at
my other device whatever. But yeah, I stream a lot.
I'm very grateful for what.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Do you watch reality shows? Or do you watch because
I know people are always looking for like a show
to watch.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Yes, I definitely watch reality shows. So it's a lot
of that. So you know, we've talked about this. But
I don't know if you know this about me, But
I'm a Housewives junkie.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
So you watch all of them?
Speaker 2 (19:54):
I'm just kidding, but no, I do. I watch most
of them, not all of them, but I watch most
of them. Yeah, and I have watched New York this season.
I haven't. I need to watch Salt Lake City. I'm
behind on Beverly Hills just by like one episode. But
I've watched all the Potomac me too. I watched all
(20:15):
of Orange County. That was fantastic. Yep, yeah, I'm but yeah,
I gotta watch Salt Lake City.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
I heard it's great, so well. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
So it's a lot of time spent on reality TV
for sure. And then Jeff is always suggesting something that
I don't know. We're always what do we just watch
My God Cross with Alex? The guy's name is Alex Cross.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Oh yeah, that's James Patterson.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Yes, yeah, yeah, which I loved until I didn't read
those books.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Yeah. Watch. We watch a lot of House Hunters. We
love it. Play it like a game. Yeah, so like
we pause after they've seen all the houses. You know
how it works, right, like the real estate agent takes.
We only watched the international ones so we can like
fantasize about living somewhere else and not that New Jersey
is not like fabulous. But they they take the person
(21:07):
or couple to three different homes and then we pause
it and we bet which house they're gonna choose, and
it's so much fun. But it's like formulae, like one
person always wants to live in the city center, and
one person always wants to live in the suburbs, and
one person always wants to be by the water, and
one person always wants to be walking distance to the town.
(21:30):
You know. So it's like, but it's really fun and
it's mindless, and it's a half hour and it's easy.
It's all about the mindless TV. I mean, listen, and
we love Amazing Race. Actually, do you watch that? No,
we watch every season. We love it. I don't watch
HG TV only because it's on.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
It runs on us in the Manic ever has it on?
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Yeah, and they have a subtitles? Yeah? Yeah? What about
what about movie anything? You know, I haven't seen that
many movies in the movie theater. I've watched a few
on airplanes that I was like, I watched that one
that we talked about a long time ago. We did
an episode you and I on what was the topic,
but it was we were talking about the Anne Hathaway movie.
(22:18):
Maybe it was Our Intimacy one or I don't remember,
but we were like, oh, it was about being middle
aged women and being sort of like the forgotten years,
you know. Yeah, And I watched that Anne Hathaway movie
where she falls in love with the lead in the
rock band and he's much younger than her. Yeah, and yeah,
(22:41):
I remember that. You were like, I loved that movie. Yeah,
I love The movie that I'm dying to see is like, no,
I'd like to give you. But every movie I'm dying
to see is like it's in the theater for like
a minute and then it's out, like it's just in
the city.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
So I haven't discovered. I have rediscovered movie theaters this year.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
I like them too, but I'm not going to travel
an hour for it. So we saw We went to
the premiere of that that Roadhouse one. That was good, fine,
you know. Me and my girlfriend went on a girl
date to see Beetlejuice and that was fine, you know,
But I don't think I've seen anything really mind blowing.
(23:24):
But I'm dying to see Honora. You know that movie Anora,
And I'm also dying to see I love a biopic,
and I'm dying to see the Timothy shallow May one
Bob Dylan. I'm not so really, I don't.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
I'm not a huge Timothy shallow May fan, and I'm
not a huge Bob Dylan fan.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
I'll see it. We'll say, well, I'm not either. But
my favorite movies of all time A lot of them
have been is it biopic or biopic? It's biopic, right,
I don't know. I don't know either.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
I don't know, but I do love the ones, especially
when they're about musicians. I mean, yeah, so like John
Even was good.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
We use my favorite and growing up, my favorite favorite
movie growing up was Great Balls of Fire. I loved
it so so hot. There's a scene in that movie
that still makes my hair stand up. It's like when
he's playing a whole lot of shaking going on and
the whole bar starts dancing. Oh my god, like scene
still think about.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
If that movie was out now, okay, because what when when?
Speaker 1 (24:28):
What's his name? Who? What's his name? No? Yeah, but
who what's his name? That he played Great Balls of Fires? Who? Oh?
Jerry Lee Lewis right, Jerry Lewis He married like a
thirteen year old or something, And like I don't remember
at the time even discussing that, like it wasn't even
right or even like in the nineties, like Jerry Seinfeld
(24:48):
was dating a seventeen year old Shawna. Yeah, I love
oh you could never although you do have Bill Belichick
dating like, Oh, I can't even with that, right, I mean,
it's just what's the appeal? I don't what, I don't know. Anyway,
we're going off on a tangent. But wait, I want
to talk about my favorite movie. Did you grow emotionally
this year? Wait?
Speaker 2 (25:08):
I'm not fun talking about the movies because I want
to do it that I loved. I did love Wicked,
by the way, but but everybody, Oh, I didn't see
it amazing and we saw it at the IPIC, which
is like undercovers with the chicken fingers, and it was
just incredible.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
But anyway, Oh, can I just tell you one thing
though that bothers me about Wicked is that Kristin Chenowith
used to like me and message. I used to talk
to her sometimes on Message and she followed me and
she doesn't like Teresa and so she has unfollowed me.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
So I kind of that is heartbreaking. Although you do
know that Kristin chen well, she is in Wicked, she
is in this one, which was I understand that, and
I feel badly for you because I there's first of all,
Wicked was just unbelievable, but also I love me some
Kristin Chenow with I wish you hadn't told me that.
(26:00):
Now I'm sure she's lovely. I was Dimonzel, the very
minor friendship. Well this so the movie that I loved
was called A Real Pain and it was with Kieran
Coulkien and Jesse Eisenberg and it's about these cousins. I
don't want to give anything away, but they travel. Their
(26:23):
grandmother dies and so they travel. I'm going to get
this wrong, and it's so ridiculous. I want to say
they travel to I think it's Poland, right, Yeah, I
was going to say Germany. And it wasn't. Thank you, No,
I heard of it. It was really quite incredible, and
the acting in it was so superb over the top ridiculous.
(26:48):
Narent's the one who's in succession. Yes, correct, is unbelievable, unbelievable,
and he plays like this, this kind of a manic
young man, and Jesse Eisenberg plays this very uptight person
and they But the beautiful thing about it was it
was a lot about the Holocaust and finding their grandmother's
(27:11):
childhood home and talking about they I don't want to
give anything away, but it was so beautifully done. Really
haven't seen a movie like that where I walked away
just you know, feeling like I had been sort of transported. Yep,
it's called a real pain.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Tell me if you have grown emotionally or spiritually this year,
certainly hope.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
So, since I pay almost two hundred dollars a week
for therapy, yeah, tell you.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
I had therapy this morning and.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
We spoke about about Rachel, about my daughter, and she
was going through something over the last couple of days.
And I've learned she's twenty two years old. When she
goes through something. We started out talking about this, but
when she goes through something, not to take it on
as my own, and not that I'm always there when
(28:10):
she needs me, but she could be going something through something.
I attached to it in my mind. I can't let
it go. It's on my mind all day. And then
she resolves whatever it is, and I'm you know, I
spend a whole day it's just a little dysfunctional. So
I feel like I've grown in that. In this particular instance,
I kind of separated. I said, she's twenty two, and
I trust that she could handle this, and I'm going
to give her the space to handle it, so that
(28:31):
that's I.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
Hope one way. And my son who is in law school,
who is.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
Not doesn't have time now to call mommy every day,
and you know, so to also take a step back
and know that he's doing his thing and not to
be overbearing, which I tend to be. So I feel
like I've grown in both of those days. Maybe also
I've gotten I've gotten more patient this year. I think
(28:57):
that show being on pause has been so strange for us,
and I have been doing it like you have, Jack. Obviously,
I've only been doing this for I did it for
two years and different yeas.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
But you know what I say, I think that that
that that makes you want it more than me, Like
not that I don't want it, but like I've had
it for a long time, and I'm okay, if this
is the end of the road, I'm totally fine. It's
not about it just got started with the excitement. The
not knowing. Yeah, that bothers me. I'd like either to
know what my job's going to be or to have closure. Yeah,
(29:30):
I mean, that's that's what I mean.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
My patience though it's like and everyone's always asking us,
right and we don't we have no idea and guessing
game and all of that.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
So patients, Okay, what about you. I have grown emotionally.
I've had to well, you know, I'm still you know,
in recovery, and i still make like baby steps every day.
And it's not it's not super easy for me. It's
easier or harder. No, Well, the problem is that, like recovery,
(29:59):
getting rid of like the big stuff, like the not
eating getting rid of that was great. I was so
excited adding new foods to my diet. Great, so excited.
But it's like the little things, like the nitty gritty
like it's like the not being afraid of specific foods.
It's like the not feeling guilty after a meal. It's
(30:19):
like the not overthinking before a restaurant. Like the little
teeny tiny day to day things. Sometimes they are a
little bit hard for me. I've gained some weight over
the past few months, and that's been a little bit
hard for me. Not because I don't I mean, the
trade off is worth it. The trade off of having
that freedom is worth it. It's just it doesn't seem fair
(30:42):
to me because I'm not like going crazy, I'm not
eating everything that I love to eat. I still work
out daily and like to gain weight when you're not
doing anything that warrants gaining weight is hard, especially when
like so many people around me are slimming down, you know.
(31:03):
So that's been hard. But also I feel like I
feel very empowered that, like I'm in control and how
I feel about it, and so I'm proud. I choose
to be proud of it instead of being ashamed of
it because I'm still like, I'm still me. It doesn't matter,
you know, a few pounds up, a few pounds down.
I'm enjoying letting myself fluctuate because I've never had that before.
(31:26):
You know, for twenty years, I had to keep my
weight within a one pound range or else. It like
drove me crazy, and I don't weigh myself, but I
know I've gained weight. So just being okay with that,
I feel like, is something that I've never had before.
Even in my first like two years of recovery, the
weight was really uncomfortable for me. Like now it's it's
just part of me and like it is what it is, right,
(31:49):
So I feel like that's a big, big growth for me.
I've also calmed down down one thing I'm really proud
of this year. It's no surprise the show was not
great for me this year, right, And it's fine and
it's done, and like the hatred has stopped. But for
a month, for like a month, I got horrific social
(32:12):
media hates. And that's fine. But I'm really proud of
signing off of social media for a month. I went
off at the beginning of August and I didn't go
back until the beginning of September or the end of August.
And that was so great because all the shit really
just exists in your phone, right, Like, yeah, I really
(32:34):
hates you, Your friends don't really hate you. My friends
couldn't give a shit about it, right, Like your family
doesn't care. So it really just exists in your phone.
So I think that was one of the wisest things
that I've ever done, was just the leading it for
a month. And I think I would have caused myself
(32:54):
a lot of distress had I not. And it makes
me want to in the new year kind of change
my relationship with social media more. Yeah, I think it's
really no. I think that's a great goal. I think
for all of us. Did you hear the TikTok is
getting abolished in January. I didn't hear January. I thought
I'd have to go through your more legal processes.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
But I could be wrong. I think I just heard
that like this morning. I probably heard it on Titch.
Just got on TikTok too. Guys follow me, and so
I took Jackie Goldschneider. I'm scared to look at it.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
I haven't looked at it at what the page is,
but I have to have you come up for me.
Like usually if it was that like Jackie Gold one
hundred or something like that, I should check what my
name is. Because someone took Jackie Goldschneider. I'm fairly confident
there's not other Jackie gold Schnyders walking around. I'm at
Jackie Gold one hundred and I only share eating disorder content.
But I don't know what the other Jackie gold Schnyder.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
According to what I saw on TikTok, It's not going
to matter much longer anyway, but I guess we'll see
you know when.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
I gos ANITA Gala this year. I hosted the National
Eating Disorder Association Gala this year and so amazing one
of the most amazing highlights of my year, Like I
can't believe how I try. I want to say full circle,
but it's not full circle because I wasn't at that
point to begin with. But like half circle? How half
circle I've come? Yeah, I love it all right? Favorite
(34:14):
song this year? I mean, the thing is that, like
I'm always listening to old songs. I'm you know, I'm listening.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
I put on It's totally embarrassing, but I'm like listening
to eighties music and seventies music and more than huge huge.
I don't listen to pop. I'm a huge all rock person.
I know that always freaks me out about you. Oh,
I love it weird much.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
There there were a few songs that I loved this year,
but I have to say my favorite is there's a
band called Cage the Elephant. Do you listen to them?
So they put out a new album a song called
Neon Pill that just gets it. I just love it.
I love Hosier too. Oh he's so good.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
I mean you're talking like we're going jingle ball in tomorrow. Actually, yeah,
it's gonna be so much fun. I'm so excited. But
if if truth be told, I don't I mean Katie Perry, right,
Sizza's Sabrina Shaboozy Shaboozy, I don't think so good, I
have to say in terms of pop Sabrina Carpenter song
(35:19):
taste is so I have a teenage daughter, and like,
so I feel like an idiot sometimes when I like,
I'm like running, you know, when I run, I put
on music, I like, I don't want to run to
the stuff that like she's listening to with her friends
and doing tiktoks too, you know, because then I feel like,
I don't know, I feel like I'm right, it's her style.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
I know. No, I totally get that. I totally get
that funny, like it's so funny and this is off topic,
but like god, how did how did we get old
so fast?
Speaker 2 (35:47):
I was just I mean, you're talking. I can't even
have that discussion with you. You're a baby.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
I'm not a baby, Jet, you're a baby. Comparatively, I
mean six, you are, I'm year and a half. Okay,
you're forty eight. I don't know, Jackie. The difference is
it's huge.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
I mean, fifty six and at forty eight, I don't
even think I was feeling my age like after fifty
my age No, I mean like, I don't think I
was even that qu like now fifty six. It's things
are different, Like my body feels different. Even sometimes when
I would watch myself on camera, the way that I
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move felt I was watching myself. And of course we're
our own worst critics, but I felt like I was
moving like an old person, you know. And also that
probably is one of the reasons why I started exercising
again and lifting weights. But like I remember watching back
when Rachel Fuda had this had the pajama party.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
Do you remember that?
Speaker 2 (36:49):
Yeah, silly stuff, but watching myself walk from her boyer
into like where her bar area was or is, and
I remember, We're just seeing that back and thinking, you
you walk like an old person.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
You know. It's like I never saw you walk like
an old well you would, I mean you probably wouldn't
because you're not looking for that. But it's weird. It's
like the aging thing is is, Yeah, maybe working out
we'll help with that. You find strength. Okay, So let's see.
Let's see what else. The best meal you had this
year was your best meal in Vietnam? Vietnam, Oh my god,
(37:27):
my best meal if anyone is visiting Rome, was in
like by far, hands down, no comparison. In a town
called Trustevere, there was a restaurant called Taverna Treloosa that
was I mean just Evan and I were just staring
at each other the whole meal, like, did you try this?
Did you try this? It was unbelievable that it was unbelievable. Yeah,
(37:49):
it was so good. Favorite trend, favorite trend? Gosh, what's yours?
I am so surprised to hear myself say that I
love the barrel jean, do you I that's so funny
that you say that. I think you have to.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
Find the right one bow legged. So I didn't like
it either until I found the right one. I just
bought a pair of page and I love them really
and yes, yes, And I can't put on skinn jeans anymore.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
No, I don't wear my skinny jeans. I'm wearing wide
leg right now. But I have not tried barrel jeans yet.
Maybe I will try them. I'm shocked that I love them,
but I love them all right. I love that. I
actually nice. This year, I've been wearing a lot of
those New Balance three twenty seven sneakers. Yeah. Oh, I've
sorted wearing a lot of sneakers. I like it, like
a chunky white sneaker. I've been like really into. So
(38:46):
all right, so let's let's get into our hopes for
the new year. Do you make resolutions? No?
Speaker 2 (38:55):
No. When I was younger, it was always lose weight.
Right every year, it was the same thing, and up
until the New Year, I would bringe, like literally, I
would think it's coming, it's coming on New Year's Day,
and then on New Ye's Day, I would say, well,
it's New Year's Day. You have to eat and I'm not.
You know, we've talked about that that. I've also had
suffered with eating disorders at times in my life, but.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
That was always the resolution.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
It was always to lose weight, which I don't do anymore,
like at all, And I don't really do resolutions, but.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
Do you know what, It's not that I do likes
like hardcore resolutions, but there are things that I'd like
to see happen. They're mostly like career goals because obviously
I can't resolve to have my children behave in certain ways.
You know, when they're good kids, I just want them
to be happy, So they're mostly like career goals. I
(39:47):
have a lot of career goals and a lot of ideas,
And every day I throw shit at the wall and
see what sticks, and ninety nine percent of it doesn't stick,
but that one percent that does is really exciting. So
I think I have like a whole bunch of things
that I have to consistently remind myself to stick with
because I love immedia gratification. But you know, this year
(40:09):
I read this book Atomic Habits. Do you read that?
And it was talking about God. They had the best
analogy and it was like, you know, you leave an
ice cube on a counter in a room, and if
you gradually heat the room up from like zero degrees
to thirty one degrees, nothing is going to happen to
(40:31):
that ice cube. But the minute it hits thirty two degrees,
that ice cube is going to start to melt. Right,
So it's everything you did up until that point that
prepare that ice cube to melt. It wasn't just that
one thing of hitting thirty two degrees that made it happen.
It was all the steps before that, Right, So I
have to consistently remind myself that planting the seeds and
the little things that don't actually make anything like go boom.
(40:54):
Are what leads up to that you know, gratifying moment
where something does happen for you, So planting a lot
of seeds, you know, and so I have to stick
with it. That's my resume definitely. That's actually something I
did learn.
Speaker 2 (41:06):
I have to say this year, this past year, is that,
like I can, I hate the word manifest and let
me not use that word, but but I do have
an ability to think, wow, what about this and then
put it into play, which I think that I struggled
with for so long. I mean, I created a business
and I always say this is going back when I
(41:28):
was fifty. But the reason that I stuck with it
was because I brought people into it, and I people
invested emotionally in it and financially and so you know,
in f major and so there was no squirming out
of it, because MY tendency through the years has been
to have a big idea and then you know, squirm
and and sort of just like not really you know, dedicated, But.
Speaker 1 (41:50):
You busted your ass with that. I remember the first
time I met you years ago.
Speaker 2 (41:57):
No I know, but that was again, I mean, I
I had put myself into busines where I couldn't square
them out. So but but I have this past year,
I've had like what about this?
Speaker 1 (42:05):
What about this?
Speaker 2 (42:06):
And actually putting that into motion, you know, like the
Housewives thing. I got a call from a casting director
and then that I didn't have to do much except
to show up, you know what I mean, I didn't.
Speaker 1 (42:18):
I wasn't creating a show or creating something for myself.
Speaker 2 (42:20):
That was more like I got an opportunity and I
happily took it right, but actually coming up with stuff
now again, while we're we don't know what the future is,
you know, of the show, and I've been able to
do some things I don't know that I'm I'm pleased
that I've been able to put things in motion this year,
and I will I hope, I hope that I'll be
(42:41):
able to do that again.
Speaker 1 (42:42):
Yeah, it's kind of exciting not knowing what will happen.
Like as long as my the people I love are healthy,
then I'm kind of like excited to see like what happens.
You know.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
You know, I have a friend who is just had
some just found out that he's having some health issues,
some serious ones, and yeah, I mean it just changes.
Speaker 1 (43:07):
Everything right in an instant, right, and I'm yeah, And.
Speaker 2 (43:10):
I want to say when I think about the coming year,
my part of part of it. I'm not trying to
say this that I'm so altruistic, but like, I just
think about my dear friend and I want to be
able to be as strong for her and make this
if I can, in any way easier, and like it'll
(43:31):
be a good year if I can help. I mean,
I had another friend years back who was diagnosed with
ovarian cancer and for a few years she passed and
this friend won't but thank god. But anyway, the point
is that it was hard. It was really hard to
(43:52):
be a close friend of someone going through that way,
harder for her than it was for me. And as
I look when I look back at it, I think
I did everything that I could to make it easier
for her. You know, That's the only thing that was
gratifying in any way about it, is that I think
I helped make it.
Speaker 1 (44:11):
Yeah, you're a really good friend. I'm not trying to
be like I think the important thing that I want
to carry into the new year is that like there's
never there's never a year where everything is great. There's
never a year where everything's bad. There's never a time
in your life. You know. I used to wait a
lot and say I'll do this when things ease up,
(44:31):
and I'll do this when I'm not like said about something,
And there's never going to be that time. You just
got to like do what you do and let life
be life, you know.
Speaker 2 (44:41):
And no one gets away Jack, That's what I tell
my kids. No one gets away, no matter what in
it might be a small thing that you think is
small or big or not.
Speaker 1 (44:50):
But the struggles real period, full stop. That's I guess. Yeah.
And we got these drones flying over New Jersey and
who knows what the inside of them? Right, I don't
talk about those. That's freaks. How we actually make it
to the new year, give me God forbid? That is
it's in my chai. Wow. Yes, people intend if we
find we're taking.
Speaker 2 (45:09):
Pictures of them, I don't get it, and no one
can figure it out, I know.
Speaker 1 (45:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (45:14):
Yeah, let's hope you're still here on Earth without the
Martians twenty in them.
Speaker 1 (45:21):
Okay, So message for listeners next year, God, I would say,
follow through on the things that you are dreaming about,
because it's really easy to let your dreams die in
your head because things take effort, you know, and be
okay with rejection. I'm saying that out loud for me
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also because rejections are part of it and I hate rejection.
But yeah, yeah, well.
Speaker 2 (45:51):
I said, I don't really make don't really make resolutions,
but I would recommend therapy for anyone who's not in
his because I do feel like each year I I
do grow. I grow, like we talked about a little
bit emotion bestationally and.
Speaker 1 (46:09):
Yeah, therapy is the greatest gift you can give yourself.
Speaker 2 (46:12):
I would agree with that. I would agree with that. Okay, then,
well listen, and I also hope in twenty twenty five,
you guys keep listening to us, and I hope that
we are. I don't know if either we're amusing you,
or you can relate, or you don't feel and we
talk about certain things, maybe you don't feel so alone.
You know, we try. I think with Jersey Jays, we
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both tried to be honest and open and because that's it, right,
It's all about connecting with people. So I hope we
get to continue that in twenty twenty five. Yeah, we've
had some fantastic guests.
Speaker 1 (46:45):
Some we have here. It's your favorite. I just have
such a thing from my ambilliti.
Speaker 2 (46:51):
Iknew you're going to say that. I knew you were
going to say that. I really do like I love her.
Speaker 1 (46:56):
I love that she's an unabashed nerd. I love how
she stands by love fiction. She's such a talented actress,
like everything. I love everything about her. I know you do.
Speaker 2 (47:05):
And I loved love her and loved that episode.
Speaker 1 (47:10):
And I think one.
Speaker 2 (47:12):
That really affected me was Maria Minunos, which we did
pretty recently, and I thought.
Speaker 1 (47:16):
Oh yeah, we called each other after that. We were
just like flabergasted. She is a force, she really is. Yeah.
So that was a good one, so good one. Some
great guests in twenty twenty five and some fun topics
and some some more success And I love you. I
wish all of you guys a happy new year and
(47:37):
we will be healthy. Bye.
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