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November 10, 2025 40 mins

Tamra and Dolores are gearing up for BravoCon! Dolores isn’t sure what to expect from the Housewives now that she’s recapped most of them… will someone come for her?

Meanwhile, this week’s episode of RHOP proved that one housewife has truly mastered the game by staying calm while making the ladies look like mean girls.

Plus, who cares if Stacey is dating Chris Samuels? Monique and Stacey have never even met!

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
To Teas in a pod with Teddy Mellencamp and Camerage Edge.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
You had much better day than I had a weekend,
that's for sure.

Speaker 3 (00:17):
What happened.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
Well, you know social media gets pretty hateful, right and yeah, thanks.
Well somebody wrote me a DM and it said, I
truly hope you have consideration of killing yourself. Ah, please
do everyone a favor and never show up in OC again.
You've officially ruined the show with your toxicity and your

(00:41):
inability to take responsibility. And they went on to say
just really nasty comments. They ended it with, no one
wants your pussy ass on the show.

Speaker 3 (00:50):
Well that's the trash that talks like this.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
You've never taken responsibility for shit. Please if you need
me to make the knife sharper.

Speaker 3 (01:01):
Was this like this actual account.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
It's from an actual account, And I posted on my
social media because I think there has to be a
time where people put their foot down that this is
not okay. What if I And let me just tell you,
I wasn't having a good day when I got this. Yeah,
I was actually having some emotional issues with something that
went down. People can truly kill themselves, that's true, and

(01:28):
it has happened, Yes, more than once. You know what
happened after I posted that, what people did a dick
deep dive on this girl and even my son Spencer,
who was just disgusted by it. And it comes to
find out that she works for a she works in

(01:50):
the mental health industry. She works for Recovery Center Mental
Health in Colorado.

Speaker 3 (01:58):
You're not the only person she's ever spoken to like that,
and she needs to be taking out of her job.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
Well, the company reached out to me several times and apologized.
They actually made a public statement. I'm not going to
say the name of the company. I'm sure you guys
have seen notices. We're appalled to learn about the message
sent to Tamba Judge in the real house. It's Orange
County by an individual who appears to be connected to
our organization, no.

Speaker 3 (02:21):
Employed by that organization.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
Yeah, I mean they told me they're doing an internal
investigation to see what's going on. And I mean, I'm
usually when you get things like that, they're from a
you know, fake account. There's a kitten as their you
know picture or something like that. Bravo has reached out

(02:45):
to me, The authorities have reached out to me. Evidently,
it's a new law that if you tell somebody to
kill themselves, it's I don't know if it's a felony
or what, but it's it should be. Yeah, it's not.

Speaker 3 (02:59):
And it's been like that for a while. I don't
know how new it is, because I remember a couple
of years ago, a few years back, that a girl
told her boyfriend to go kill himself.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
They did a documentary about that, and he did, and
he did, and she got in trouble for that. Yeah,
she got charged. I don't know what the charges were,
but I know that it was.

Speaker 3 (03:22):
Uh. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
I've been talking on the pod forever about there needs
to be like a zero tolerance or some kind of
rules to social media when it comes to people like this,
because there are a lot of nasty individuals out there.
The thing that they can say whatever they want to
if it's a child or you know, a TV personality

(03:44):
that they've never met. And it always gets me when
someone says something like that and then goes on to
tell me I'm I'm a bad person on the show.
I'll tell you one thing what I do on the
show is for entertainment. Entertainment. I would never in my
entire life, life, get on social media and d M
somebody to tell them to kill themselves, to harm themselves,

(04:06):
to you know, to I've had death.

Speaker 3 (04:09):
People don't understand that, and how can you not, like,
I mean, you know a lot of people, a lot
of people say to all of us, is that we
look so much better off camera or to get to
know you in person, you're so much nicer and you know,

(04:30):
yeah a lot. I hear that about you all the time.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
To Ti too.

Speaker 3 (04:37):
Actually I don't know. I have brain fog out of
a rough morning, out a nice morning, I mean, but
somebody said that to me, just recaying, oh, I did
an event with Sonya Morgan. Yeah, and in Chicago where
we facetimed you. And that's what most of the people
were saying. They were all saying, like, if you meet

(04:57):
Tamara Judge in person, she's not thing like what you
see on the show.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
I take my career and my jobs and not in
my career because you take everything serious back on.

Speaker 3 (05:11):
But you you are by the like you're like, well,
this is what this is what I do, and this is.

Speaker 2 (05:17):
What I am who I am. You know, I'm not
making any excuses by any means, but you know, I
definitely have a sharp tongue. I always have, as do
a lot of people on reality TV and think all
of us. Yeah, and I I grew up except Stacy. Yeah,
I grew up. I'm the pole opposite in Stacy. I

(05:38):
grew up with the whole mentality like you don't look
ship today. I've heard your mom. Yeah, you've heard.

Speaker 3 (05:44):
When she said that you look like you fell off
your motorcycle you got your co two.

Speaker 2 (05:48):
Yeah, she's like, what happened to your face? Like you
got an accident.

Speaker 3 (05:50):
Like she's just that's how I grew My friend said,
you look like you gotta but you know, that's what
makes us survive in this world.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
Yeah, so, by the way, I'm not I'm not opposed.

Speaker 3 (06:00):
To that being real.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
Speaking of surviving, how are you feeling going into Bravacon.

Speaker 3 (06:05):
I'm excited. I have not one outfit at all, but
I'm excited.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
I really am. It's a lot of work camera, as
you know. I know, I started buying outfits and I
still had you know, here's the thing for me going
to Bravacan, it's it's still a little bit stressful because
when you come off of a show and you're still airing,
and then you have to go to Brava Con. Yeah,
the fans are heightened because of the shot that your

(06:33):
show is still going on. And then we have you know,
two more well, I think Thursday night it's Reunion Part
two errors and then you know, thank god Reunion three
doesn't air until we're done because that one is very explosive.
But it's just a it's a feeling of I just
want to get through this. I want to get through this.

Speaker 3 (06:54):
Like the reunion.

Speaker 2 (06:55):
Yeah, it's kind of like, you know, January we started
filming and then we are doing press, and then we
did the reunion, you know, and and now Bravo Con.
It's just like I want to breathe. I just want
to breathe a little bit and not think about housewives.
So we're in big bear right now. Relax. I could
tell your dry in my skin out, so dry up here.

(07:18):
Anybody nervous, anybody that you're nervous to see?

Speaker 3 (07:22):
No. I I've thought about it, because you know, I've
had my opinions on this pod, and I'm like, I
wonder who, you know, if there's anyone who's upset with
me or anyone who's going to say anything but I'm
ready for it because I own everything I say.

Speaker 2 (07:36):
Yeah, I know that Wendy was upset with me because
she unfollowed me, and that was because I talked about
you know, somebody dming me one of her neighbors. And
you know, allegedly, we don't know what has gone down.
We don't know what's happening with her until we know
what's happening with her, until you know, in a intel

(07:57):
proven Katie, I don't dislike her, but any means or
think anything less of her.

Speaker 4 (08:02):
So sorry if I upset you, But what typically happens
because I've never been on a podcast before this, so
when they see us, they're gonna like, oh, it's fine,
it's fine.

Speaker 2 (08:13):
No, I'm sure like most people in this industry know, like,
it's not like we sit here and say hateful things
about people. We're not like trash talking and where we.

Speaker 3 (08:23):
Talk about what's on on the show.

Speaker 2 (08:25):
Yes, we're recapping what's on the show. And that's when
I laugh. People that go, you're a blogger, you're no different.
You talk shit about people. I'm not talking shit about people.
We are talking about what happens. Do if we disagree
with somebody, we're gonna disagree with what they did, so Teddy.
When Teddy and Erica do the podcast, I don't want
to listen. I don't want to know because if I

(08:46):
do something stupid, Teddy's going to disagree with me and
she's to call me out. And I don't care.

Speaker 3 (08:52):
I don't care.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
There's some shows out there that are absolutely nasty, like
bloggers that say nasty things about people. We don't do that.
Why don't we just get into Potomac Season ten, episode six.

(09:18):
The girls are at dinner. They're still on vacation. Jelle
is like a long vacation.

Speaker 3 (09:24):
I know, right, doesn't it?

Speaker 2 (09:26):
Yeah, and it's only like episode I don't know. It
just seems like it's very long. So Gazelle hands out shots.
She gives Kay her shot called Giselle hater. Now, Jaselle
is the messiest housewife, one of the most messiest housewives
going to come for you now, I know, but in
a good way. I mean, she runs that show, but
she is always doing something to create drama. You know,

(09:49):
She's now get a raise is what she should get.
I don't know what she's making, but she should get
a raise because she is running that show. Like nobody's business. So, uh,
Kira a shot, said Giselle hater because Wendy told Gazelle
that Kierana doesn't like her.

Speaker 3 (10:07):
But but Kiarana wants to uh kind of she wants
to explain, she just felt that. I don't know if
she said she doesn't like her. I've never seen Kierana
act like she didn't like Giselle to her face. What
I think it more was that she said after the incident,
the big.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
Fight, that she didn't call me.

Speaker 3 (10:29):
Yeah, but understandably, So I think that's.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
A lot different than saying I don't like her or right, yeah, right,
I didn't.

Speaker 3 (10:37):
I didn't see the I don't like you as much
as I saw I'm not happy with her.

Speaker 2 (10:41):
Did you hear her? Did you hear Gazelle pipe in
and I quote she says I was a champion of
kay when even Greg didn't like her.

Speaker 3 (10:50):
Yeah, yeah, because Gizelle was very, very surprised to hear that.
Now we've all been there where all of a sudden,
somebody's mad at us and we didn't know it is.
They had to stay it behind our back and not
to our face.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
Yeah, don't talk to me about this season was exactly
that I'm.

Speaker 3 (11:07):
All's what I'm saying, Like if I stared right now
even getting those words out, because if you're mad at me,
like tell me to my face, like, don't that's the
one thing that I can't stand.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
Don't talk ship behind my back, don't go to the
friends and tell.

Speaker 3 (11:19):
But yeah, so was all in presentation as well, saying
I don't she doesn't like you right right?

Speaker 2 (11:26):
But to her for her, if she.

Speaker 3 (11:28):
Would have presented it as she she's not happy with
you or something's not sitting right with her, that's different.
But she should have heard it from Kiana. Yeah, that's
the problem I have with that. I agree, I don't
have a problem with her being upset with her, But listen,
is there a more valid excuse than what Giselle has? No, No,
there's not. Her father was sick. It's not all about us.

(11:51):
And you know, everybody thinks that this show is all
we have in our lives when we're filming, it's not all.

Speaker 2 (11:57):
It is valid.

Speaker 3 (11:58):
Point when we get haul, you don't know what somebody
and that's.

Speaker 2 (12:02):
When real life happens. Yeah, we get home, we have
to deal with family issues, how stuff, you know, husband's kids, prince,
you know, and taxes, bills, all that stuff, real problems
and everything else. And then also jobs, some of us
still have jobs.

Speaker 3 (12:21):
That's true, right, that's true. But I always say, like,
what's the intention behind what somebody does? She should have
seen is the intention behind Giselle being not nice to
me because she didn't call and check on me? Or
was she going through something? Clearly it was she was
going through something. But how about look at all the
other things Giselle did for you, not what Gizelle didn't

(12:42):
do for you. Kiana. Yeah, that's where I have my problems,
right because I always look at what somebody did for me,
not what they didn't do for me.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
Now the girls are back at the house, Stacy tucks
up being separated from Tiamo. Stacey says she's never slept
with anyone, including Chris, and then is go and believe
that was this off? Yes, they were like and they
weren't miked right when they happened, But there was like
a camera on the wall or something they must have
we know on our trips those cameras are audio. Uh

(13:14):
huh uh huh. Now, Ashley says Stacy's line about not
having sex with Chris. How does Ashley know? Why does
she care? She could? Stacy could sleep with whoever she wants.
I mean, I don't understand why Ashley has her foot
on Stacy's throat like this.

Speaker 3 (13:31):
Everybody has their foot on Stacy's throat. I mean, even
when this shady Shots came out, everybody had like it
was a kind of a like.

Speaker 2 (13:41):
A shade, but they were okay with it. I'm actually
getting sick and tired of this no name, Stacy. I'm
not going to give you a name. I'm not gonna
put on your robe. I'm not gonna put it on
your towel. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna I'm going
to give you a shot with nothing on it.

Speaker 3 (13:54):
I'm sorry, but that's really mean it is. I had
less in it. And you know what, Stacy doesn't come back.
She's like, listen, you're not going to break me. I'm not.

Speaker 2 (14:05):
I would have said, take.

Speaker 3 (14:06):
Your shock class and I'll help her if I smash
it in your teeth. See, you are shy.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
You are shy. Yeah, no, I'm shy, but I'm just kidding.

Speaker 3 (14:16):
I'm not shy about those type of things. That's what
I would have said. Oh geez, my shock class doesn't
have a lot in it. How's that?

Speaker 2 (14:22):
Yeah? I see, I wouldn't sit there like Stacy. But
like I said earlier, I mean Stacy, I would not.
I would not. Somebody would have got water shot whatever
was in there in their face. Yeah, but they're waiting
for her to break, and she is holding.

Speaker 3 (14:36):
She's not breaking.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
She is not breaking now, Stacy. If she's slept with
Chris or not, it's note if nobody's goddamn ma, it's
not Ashley's business. How was she now be there? But
she and Monique have never met and are not friends, period,
end of story. There in the story, you know, it's

(15:00):
just weird. I feel like Ashton Gizella are trying to
pick a fight with Stacy. I think they want to
activate her because she doesn't get activated.

Speaker 3 (15:08):
So but you know what Stacy's doing by not getting activated.
She's making everyone look like mean girls.

Speaker 2 (15:14):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (15:15):
And she's making everyone look stupid yep. You know, it's
easy to pick on the person that people don't really like. Now,
how are the fans towards Stacy? Because I've never really
seen that part.

Speaker 2 (15:29):
I think the fans lover Andy Cohen in fact is
one of her biggest fans, and he's always on his
show Watch What Happens Live talking about how great Stacy is.
Last night he was talked right a Yep, he was
talking about how he can't get enough of her old
QVC videos that have been resurfacing lately.

Speaker 3 (15:46):
She's winning.

Speaker 2 (15:47):
Yeah, she's Hey, guys, you know they're so good. This
is a lot like Katie on Orange County. So many
of us went after her right on the cast.

Speaker 3 (16:00):
That's true.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
And even though whatever she did, if she was lying
or not lying or whatever you want to call it,
everybody cited with her because of the fact that why
she didn't fight back like that, Yes.

Speaker 3 (16:13):
And that's how things happen. So if you are capable
of sitting back and getting your due from not going
after someone and making them it's almost like a psychological play.
But it's not an easy thing to do, you know
what I mean, Like you could be sensible and now Stacy.

(16:33):
Nobody's mad at Stacy for not reacting. Like in the
housewife world, it's all about reaction. Do your job, You're boring.
But she's winning and she's she's just like, it's not
my style.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
Her reaction is a reaction, but not the reaction and.

Speaker 3 (16:50):
The lack of house.

Speaker 2 (16:52):
It's kind of like she always has something to say,
but it's like, you're not gonna get me.

Speaker 3 (16:57):
She's like, okay, you're not. But but there was no
drink in her shot. I was like, I didn't notice
that there's your no name and there's like the ones
she spilled on herself.

Speaker 2 (17:10):
See that's just kind of that's kind of meaning you're
making yourselves look bad, I think anytime. And I learned
the lesson this year is jumping on board when kind
of like when everybody went after Katie and and believing
that this lide detector test was accurate and real, and
I thought, you I've never done a live detector test,
So at the moment I was like really heated. And

(17:31):
then once I found out like Katie had sent me
like like information on.

Speaker 3 (17:38):
The guy, then.

Speaker 2 (17:41):
I was like, oh shit, Like I shouldn't you.

Speaker 3 (17:43):
Know that when you take a lie detector test that
it is recorded. It's not like recorded like where they
play it back, but it's like in files that you
took a lot, that you took one. So don't ever
ask me to take one, believe me or not. I
do not care.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
I was told, like the police department or something keeps
a fine. Well, it's like it's on record, some record.

Speaker 3 (18:05):
So if someone does a background check on you, a
legitimate lie detector thing will be on your record.

Speaker 2 (18:11):
Oh so I didn't know that.

Speaker 3 (18:12):
Everybody who wants to do that, that's what I've been told.

Speaker 2 (18:16):
Well, why they bring this up. I don't think they'll
ever do this again. Just say no, because it will
be on record for the rest of your life.

Speaker 3 (18:24):
That's what I was told by my brother. I don't
know if that's true, but that's that's enough for me.
Number one, and you know what, don't question me. And
number two. Lie detector tests, by the way, can be beat,
so they're really not credible.

Speaker 2 (18:40):
If you're a pathological liar, or if you clench your butthole.

Speaker 3 (18:43):
I heard Okay, well I clench my butthole all the time.
So I'm just gonna tell you, like, if I see somebody,
like when I saw Angie get her fingercought in the
door last week, my butthole clenched.

Speaker 2 (18:56):
But like things like that, you know, Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (19:00):
So I'm just saying, like, take your life attacked a
touch on it. But getting back to here.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
I just think that like Stacy's winning. She is so
the girls around the yacht. Karana tells Giselle that she
never said she didn't like Gizelle, but was upset with her. Okay,
there's a difference there. Everybody. Everybody has a monogram towel
except for Stacy. So Jeselle's making sure that there'll be
no monogram anything for Stacy. I feel like the couch

(19:28):
at the reunion is going to be monogrammed. I see
that coming. She just call Gazelle says that she didn't
call Kay after the fight at g NA. Now this
was like a few years ago, right, This whole fight
happened a couple of years ago. So there was a fight.
That's when they was it when she threw the glass
and the hit her in the head, and yeah, yeah

(19:49):
that whole thing.

Speaker 3 (19:50):
Okay, stitch stitches.

Speaker 2 (19:52):
Yeah I got good amount too, Yeah, good at amount.
So Gizelle says she didn't call Kierena after the fight
because she was folk the scene on her dad, who
had a brain tumor and died shortly after that.

Speaker 3 (20:05):
Sorry, yeah, I mean maybe did you call did you
call Giselle when that happened? And did you actually realize
I mean, you all knew that her dad had passed.
I'm sure it was public knowledge. Maybe think back in
your head around the time that that happened.

Speaker 2 (20:21):
She didn't call you? What was going on in her life?

Speaker 3 (20:24):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (20:24):
You know, Tam made an excellent, you know, little speech
there and she said, listen, I've lost my dad too,
and don't expect anything from Giselle for years. It's very
hard to lose a parent when you are so close
to them.

Speaker 3 (20:40):
Yeah. So, oh my god.

Speaker 2 (20:42):
I the fact that she wouldn't think that, you know,
to see her father pass away from brain cancer and
all that stuff that anybody would think they owed, Gazelle
owed them anything. You're a you are a selfish.

Speaker 3 (20:58):
Be embarrassed being embarrassed that you expected something from her
at that time.

Speaker 2 (21:02):
You know what everyone else called you?

Speaker 3 (21:04):
Wasn't that enough?

Speaker 2 (21:06):
But why is Wendy's Wendy's the one that actually brought
this up. She's stirring up two year old drama between
Ky and Giselle. It's already been hashed out, so it
was just kind of it was Windy. I believe that
was just kind of stirring the pot.

Speaker 3 (21:20):
She just brought it up out of nowhere like Angie
does sometimes.

Speaker 2 (21:25):
I mean, shouldn't Jizelle be mad at Wendy instead for
bringing this up?

Speaker 3 (21:31):
No, I don't think so. I don't think so, but
she should also just I just think that Keiana should
be mad at Wendy, not Gazelle.

Speaker 2 (21:41):
The girls go to lunch. Jazzy asked Stacy to be
a bridesmaid, but she declined because of her marijuana line
that she was launching. Now, this was a while back,
that wasn't obviously that night, so Stacy had to come
up with something quick. So she's like, oh shit, I
think she What the girls are saying is Stacey didn't
think that Jazzy was going to be back, So why

(22:04):
you know, say oh yeah, I'm going to be in
your wedding and all this stuff if this girl ain't
going to be back. And that's when you find out
who are your real friends and who are your TV friends?

Speaker 3 (22:14):
Right right, right, right right.

Speaker 2 (22:16):
So I don't know if that's any friends really on here, Jazzy,
I guess, but her marijuana line launch was more in president.

Speaker 3 (22:28):
Than yeah, you know what launch? Was she launching it
on that day? I mean, you opened up a dispensary.

Speaker 2 (22:36):
Well, we have a we have a line. We have dispensary,
but we have a you know, a line.

Speaker 3 (22:40):
Almost you've opened up a business. You can pick which
day you're opening your thing launch.

Speaker 2 (22:46):
I gotta believe this is probably an online business. I
don't think she's opening up her own dispensary. I don't know.
Maybe she is. It's very very expensive, but I don't, No,
I don't know much about this. When you say marijuana,
cannabis all that, there's a lot of different things that

(23:07):
she could be selling. I don't know if is it gummies,
is it marijuana? Is it him visit CBD? Like there's
so many Yeah. So I mean I think you can
have your launch party any anytime. And I got to
believe one, one thousand percent she's putting her name on this. Yeah,
everybody else is doing the rest of the work, right.

Speaker 3 (23:27):
However, Yeah, it's very involved. However, I'll tell you this,
she still could have been in the wedding. That was
a shit excuse.

Speaker 2 (23:34):
Yeah. Gizelle says that Stacy is only going to Jazzy's
wedding now because she's back on the show. She said
back in their group, but she meant back on the show.

Speaker 3 (23:44):
Well, I'm glad Jazzy's not upset with the decline.

Speaker 2 (23:49):
Well, if you remember, Stacey did apologize Jesse a few
episodes ago for not being a good friend to her,
So maybe that's what she was talking about.

Speaker 3 (23:58):
Maybe, yeah, yeah, well whatever, Yeah, I'd be pretty embarrassed
if someone, if I asked somebody to be in the wedding,
they said no for a stupid reason.

Speaker 1 (24:09):
I know.

Speaker 2 (24:10):
I mean, especially since weddings are so booked so far out,
and it's like you can pick and choose when you
want to do your launch of your canvas business.

Speaker 3 (24:21):
It's safe to say she didn't feel close enough to
her to be in the wedding, and maybe that, you know,
maybe you should say she should work on getting close
with some friends might help.

Speaker 2 (24:34):
Well. Tia, who I absolutely love, says that she was
trying to help with the photoshop situation, but Jazzy was
making it worse. Jessie mocks Tea's accent and mentions how
Tia was saying that mister Sunshine, like Jazzy, Jazzy thought
that was disrespectful to say fourteen days before her wedding.
Is basically she was saying some guy had the hots

(24:54):
for her, and you know, and she's like, there's no
competition between my fiance and who anybody else. I'm pretty
sure it's not that deep.

Speaker 3 (25:04):
No, it's not that calmed down.

Speaker 2 (25:08):
I mean, fourteen days before you're winning, if I said
to you that guy's got the hots for you, You're like, yeah,
I still got it. I still got it. Yeah, like
the calm down stop.

Speaker 3 (25:16):
Then she's got to look for attention from him and say,
somebody's hot for me.

Speaker 2 (25:35):
Okay, So I'm starting to feel like Jazzy's trying way
too hard. I feel like every line reaction moment she has,
it's kind of like I'm securing my spot on the show.

Speaker 3 (25:50):
I can see that, and I agree. So I don't
really think we got to know her yet. I don't
know who she really is. The story's out.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
I think it's very performative. Tia thinks she knows her
because she told her you have anger issues. Well yeah,
so I think Tea is right about that. But I
also think that.

Speaker 3 (26:12):
We don't really get to know when you're trying to
be a housewife it doesn't work for me.

Speaker 2 (26:18):
Well, the cameras never lie, and when you're trying too hard.
It comes off as desperate.

Speaker 3 (26:23):
Fans don't love that. They don't just know a matter
of fact, that's one of their pet peeves our Bravo friends.

Speaker 2 (26:30):
Yeah, well, while the cameras were off, I found this
very interesting. Angel and Jazzie talk about someone who we
have no idea who she is, but Wendy thinks is
threatening Angel and her family. So Wendy's overhearing Angel and
Jazzy talk. Now, Angel, she was talking a girl that
we've never heard her talk like this before. She's been
very soft spoken. She gets her feeling hurt very easy.

(26:52):
But this situation clearly she's not happy with. Now Angel
says she's got a snaggle toothed, stringy haired, hot piece
of trash. This bitch is ugly. I'm shocked Angel is
talking about another person's looks the way she is right
now because she was offended by you know, which is Alchemist.

(27:15):
But this is like you could tell this is something
she it's it's a sore subject with her, and then
we find out that it's something that happened a decade ago,
a decade ago.

Speaker 3 (27:26):
But it's star In the words of Margaret Joseph's hit a.

Speaker 2 (27:29):
Nerve hit a nerve, hit a nerve.

Speaker 3 (27:33):
And and by the way, saying that that's not a
face tuned it's really wrong that.

Speaker 2 (27:40):
Hit a nerve too. Yeah, but they should use face
app his face app.

Speaker 3 (27:46):
No, I didn't use face tune. I could test.

Speaker 2 (27:50):
I didn't use face It was like face face app.
Go to my stories right now, I'm actually doing a
sponsor with a face app. I love them, Oh my god,
I love them. It's like you can actually make yourself
look like yourself with just like cleaning yourself up. You know,
you don't want that wrinkle. You need a little bit
of light. You know you don't want it for real though, I.

Speaker 3 (28:11):
Really don't want it.

Speaker 2 (28:12):
All you influencers or whoever does lots of video do
you know that they have a video app that a
lot of people don't know that, So you can literally
talk in a video and you can hit the app
to make yourself look just a little bit better the Hollywood. Yeah, yeah,
in video form, not just for still pictures. I know.

Speaker 3 (28:32):
It's pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (28:33):
So anyways, back to this conversation. Now she's really going
in about this bitch that's ugly and gouts. Now, which
now I could see myself saying that Angel somebody that
I didn't think that had it in her. Do you
think maybe after hearing this, just maybe Angel is maybe
a different person off camera, or do you think we

(28:54):
all have that in us?

Speaker 3 (28:56):
I think we all have it in us, really, But
I think Angel has to get used to what she's
doing here.

Speaker 2 (29:03):
I think she's I don't think Angel will be back.

Speaker 3 (29:07):
I know.

Speaker 2 (29:07):
I think the show's too much for her. I think
she gets people too much for and no disrespect for her.
If she is back, great, If she's not, I think
it would be her decision. I think that the show
is hard on her. She feels like she's getting ganged
up on and girl.

Speaker 3 (29:25):
I don't know what being ganged.

Speaker 2 (29:26):
Up I know, but right I know. And watch the
reunion episode three. Yeah, I just don't think. Sometimes it's
just not for you, it's.

Speaker 3 (29:37):
Not for everyone. I don't feel like Angel needs to
do it.

Speaker 2 (29:41):
Yeah, does she really need to do it?

Speaker 3 (29:43):
If it's too much for you, then take a break.

Speaker 2 (29:46):
Yeah, take a break now to do it. The girls
have a sled party and it's I mean, and this
is why we love Stacy so much. She comes out
in an october Fest costume similar similar to the one
I wore a couple of weeks ago here in Big
Bear at the October Fest. Thought I thought about wearing
it today.

Speaker 3 (30:03):
But yeah, but no, but no, we both.

Speaker 2 (30:08):
Yeah, we both got to ave your nation.

Speaker 3 (30:10):
We should get this for free.

Speaker 2 (30:11):
I mean, come on, I know, so that's her slutty costume.
I'm dying. All the girls give Jazzy a lap dance.
And as I'm watching this, and as I'm watching Ashley
lick her neck and be all sexual, I'm thinking, Dolores
is grossed out right now as I'm watching it. I

(30:32):
knew it. I knew it.

Speaker 3 (30:34):
I do not like public displays of affection and that
kind of nonsense. There's a place for that behind closed doors.

Speaker 2 (30:43):
I knew. As I'm watching it, go Dolores. Her butthole
is clinched, she is rolling guys, she is shaking her head.
He's like, what are we watching?

Speaker 3 (30:54):
It's not okay, And it's not because it's too girls.
I don't want to see two people kiss in front
of me unless I'm alone.

Speaker 2 (31:02):
It's pretty sexual whatever. She was looking off of her
chest all the way up her neck. Ashley is very
very actual person.

Speaker 3 (31:14):
So yeah, Ashley, Yeah, that's all she talks about. I
want to say, Ashley Darby, ninety percent of your conversation
is about sex. Yeah, the one, the one, the most
cringe thing, Ashley. I love you. You're a very sweet girl
and very pretty. But you said, but I am in
my femininity. And then you were like kissing a guy

(31:37):
and told him like you had your period or something
like on that show. That's another thing. I haven't had
my period in so long. It's that I wouldn't know.

Speaker 2 (31:45):
God Riot either by to.

Speaker 3 (31:48):
Listen, actually had a procedure to get rid of it.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
I did too.

Speaker 3 (31:52):
Yeah, but Ashley, I would never tell a man that.
I wouldn't say those type of things I have.

Speaker 2 (31:59):
She said, when you don't know, you didn't know the guy,
you didn't know him. She's very open, that's for sure.

Speaker 3 (32:04):
Well, very open.

Speaker 2 (32:05):
But they had that type of relationship when she was married. Yeah, Ashly. Yeah.
From what we hear, Angel says Jazzy's crime is having
a big mouth and reveals that somebody messaged Jazzy about
Angel having a reputation of being rude and nasty to somebody.
To somebody, Now, I think that Jazzy knew exactly what
she was doing. She knows that they're in the middle
of filming. It's not like they were. I mean, they

(32:26):
were on a trip. It's not like they were, you know,
done filming, or a prior to filming, or you know,
not filming that day. And she called her on the
phone and said, hey, somebody's you know. No, she knew
what she was doing. I'm sorry, even though the cameras
and the mics weren't completely on them, or they thought
they weren't filming. You're always filming. There is go pros

(32:47):
in every golf cart, there is mikes to those like,
you're being filmed. She knows that. So Angel gives the
context of In twenty sixteen, a young woman said Angel
had stolen money from Bobby's account and had control and
hid her birth control so she could get pregnant with
Bobby without his watch. Now Angel says girls do that,

(33:09):
and we and Angels saying it's absolutely not true, and
I have to believe her if she says it's not true. Well,
not only did she say that, but she told Bobby's
agent that. So it became a big deal. Because these
agents for these professional athletes, they are like they're everything.
They're handlers they're like bodyguards. They're looking after everything, money situations,

(33:33):
dating situations.

Speaker 3 (33:35):
Well they don't they keep it good enough high. Yeah,
you don' actually have to be with them twenty four
to seven, and then you still can't stop them from
a lot of them fucking everything up?

Speaker 2 (33:43):
Do we know? Did Angel have a child with Bobby
before they got married? Is that where this is coming from?

Speaker 1 (33:53):
Like?

Speaker 2 (33:54):
Was she like? How how would this strange woman know
that she's no longer taking her birth control and she's
stealing money? Like this woman sounds like a nut job
to me. It sounds like a friend that went rogue.
Yeah it could have been.

Speaker 3 (34:12):
Yeah, that have been. That sounds like a rogue friend.
She knows some details, exaggerates on them.

Speaker 2 (34:19):
Now, this is where I disagree with the girls. They
tell Jessie that they respect how she went about the situation.
They are confused as to why Angel's upset with jesse
and she brought everything up without cameras there, It wasn't
without cameras. It's on the show, guys. This is probably
something Angel did not want on the show. It was
in twenty sixteen. Jazzy knew exactly what she was doing.

(34:43):
Wendy over We saw footage of them sitting there talking
about it. We saw Wendy listening in.

Speaker 3 (34:49):
It was intentional, it was directly.

Speaker 2 (34:53):
That was not private. That was not private.

Speaker 3 (34:57):
No, it was not in by now, it doesn't take long.
There's a lot of things on the show. You can
make mistakes as a as a new housewife, but nobody
here was making a mistake.

Speaker 2 (35:10):
It was absolutely deliberate and intentional. Yeah, so what the
girls were actually praising Jazzy four was not bringing it
up in front of everybody. Well, you know how it works.
Once you bring it up to somebody, it's going to
spread to everybody.

Speaker 3 (35:27):
So you only brought it up in front of about
five hundred thousand people. But it's not the group, So
it's okay.

Speaker 2 (35:33):
But it's okay. Yeah, bullshit, no, bullshit, right exactly.

Speaker 3 (35:38):
You want to if you're bringing it up in you know,
anywhere's near you know, if you got a mic on,
if you've got a mic on and there's a camera
in the room, you're bringing it.

Speaker 2 (35:51):
In front of the group.

Speaker 3 (35:52):
Yes, she wasn't going to be brought up and repeated.
That is protocol.

Speaker 2 (35:57):
See, if I was there, I would have said no, no, no, no,
I'm sorry. I'm not going to give her credit for
not bringing it up in front of the group, because
here we are talking about it as a group. So
how can you say, oh yeah, how about not bring
it up at all? Or call her when they get
home and there's there's no cameras that day or anything.
That's what you do that when you do that, I've

(36:20):
done that for people on our cast. I have gotten
sent information and I send it to them directly and say,
just want to let you know. Somebody for your past
is sending me this stuff. So it is possible to do,
but she did not do it. Now I'm starting to
feel bad for Angel. She's out of there. She doesn't

(36:41):
want anything to do with us anymore, like her being
her Angel Wing one is bent and all cricket. She's
like out there, I'm talking to Bobby. I'm talking to Bobby.
Just like, Bobby seems very supportive. He does. He seems
very sweet.

Speaker 3 (36:59):
I mean, do you love her?

Speaker 2 (37:01):
It looks like it. He's cooking for her. He's telling
her he loves her. Every scene she's in, I feel
like she's on edge and on the defense all the time.
I just, like I said, I don't know, if it
doesn't get better for her, I don't see her wanting
to come back. It looks like she's got coppy and
he loves her.

Speaker 3 (37:18):
What does she need.

Speaker 2 (37:18):
She's got an amazing life.

Speaker 3 (37:21):
She's got an amazing life. I don't think that. Maybe
that's why she can't handle it because things are too good.
You know, when things suck, you get used to things sucking.
Maybe things have been too good for her for too
long and it's softened her.

Speaker 2 (37:34):
Yeah, maybe because I don't think she's cut out for it.
I don't at this point. I don't think she's cut
out for it because.

Speaker 3 (37:40):
Things are too easy. You've got a good man at home.
You need to be a little bit more stressful life.
You gotta be enough problems over there, no situations.

Speaker 2 (37:50):
And I'm not saying that we don't need that on housewives,
because what makes housewives so good is that there's diversity.
Of diversity, you know, we heather to bros much like that.
She's very doesn't like conflict. She doesn't want to talk
about certain situations like you know what I mean, Like
she it makes her nervous, so you know, and then

(38:10):
there's me that has a big mouth to say it
Mary too.

Speaker 3 (38:13):
Mary does not like the conflict. Mary Cosby, Yeah, She's like,
I get very triggered. I had a hard life, had
a rough life growing up, and people yelling at in
front of me like that make me very Are people
that upset make me nervous?

Speaker 2 (38:25):
Make her nervous?

Speaker 3 (38:26):
Yeah, I understand that. Yeah, however, I'm the opposite. I
feel at home.

Speaker 2 (38:32):
I feel at home. Scream and yell at me and I'm.

Speaker 3 (38:34):
Like, yeah, bitch, let's go, and I'm not going to
think about it when I leave that scene. Sometimes I'll apologize,
sometimes I won't, and life moves on. I sleep very
well at night.

Speaker 2 (38:47):
It's like a release. I think we would do We
would do very well in Salt Lake City, the two
of us.

Speaker 3 (38:54):
Oh, I think so, I definitely think. Yeah. I actually
had my extension cut to be more blended after I
saw Heather dazed back of her head. Oh really, I
like to blend her extensions.

Speaker 2 (39:10):
I'll have to check that out. I love the thing
with extensions. You have to layer them. You have to
layer them or it looks so fake.

Speaker 3 (39:18):
Well that's when she went to check on Angie in
the room after the big fight on the deck.

Speaker 2 (39:25):
You ran to the salon and go fix the back
of my head.

Speaker 3 (39:28):
Oh no, I think that looks like that. I brought
the picture. You know how you bring a picture. What
you want something to look like. It's what I don't
want it.

Speaker 2 (39:36):
To I don't want it to look like. I think
that all of us that have worn extensions, if they're
you know, sewn in ones or clipped in ones, we've
all had a moment where the wind blows or something
and there's the track.

Speaker 3 (39:47):
The track I had tap ins sticking out the diagonally
like this.

Speaker 2 (39:54):
It's like out of the sides, the corner of it.

Speaker 3 (39:56):
It's never fun to watch that back, but hey, it
is what it is. Yeah, how many more episodes do
we have a Potomac.

Speaker 2 (40:02):
Well, I would assume they're probably going to do seventeen
and we're on six, so we have about eleven more. Okay,
eleven more, I'm assuming. I don't know. I can't wait
to see you, Tam, and I know, I know I
can't wait to see a lot of people at Bravo Con.

Speaker 3 (40:17):
I think a lot of people. Yeah, I think everybody
can't wait to see you too.

Speaker 2 (40:21):
Yeah, we'll see okay, guys, all right,
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