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Speaker 1 (00:02):
To Teas and a Pod with's Teddy Mellencamp and Cameridge Edge.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
Hi, guys, welcome back to other episode of Two Teas
and a Pod myself and Delores.

Speaker 3 (00:20):
I feel like we took a little break. Did we
take a little break? I feel like I haven't talked
to you in days?

Speaker 4 (00:25):
No, well you haven't because the last one I saw
in hare was Teddy. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (00:30):
Yeah, yeah, that's true.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
I was Yeah, I think I was out, so yeah,
between traveling to New York and the show airing and
all that.

Speaker 3 (00:37):
So have you been watching Orange County?

Speaker 4 (00:40):
No, because I haven't had time and I don't like interruptions.
So tonight me and my dad are going to sit
down and watch it together.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
So I watched the first episode and I have not
watched the second episode last week's episode.

Speaker 3 (00:54):
I can't.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
I can't get myself to do it because I know
it's two people that are just going to it. They're
just attacking me, creating livees all this stuff, and I'm like,
I don't want.

Speaker 4 (01:04):
To hear it. You know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:06):
I need to protect my mental health right now, and
that is you do just like I don't want to
get riled up about it. I already got riled up
about the clips that I saw, so now I'm like.

Speaker 4 (01:16):
Yeah, I mean people don't understand. Now this comes down
to you know, you film it, you go through it,
and then you relive it. So I did watch some
of the first episode, but then I got interrupted. I
in my rental here there's only one TV, so I'm
afraid to go downstairs by my sons up. It's an
old house. I'm like, there's a TV in the basement.

Speaker 3 (01:38):
And you let me know how what you think about it?

Speaker 4 (01:39):
No, I am because you're my friend, and I need
to watch. I need to see what's going on. I
need to know because you know.

Speaker 3 (01:46):
Yeah, So Reunion Atlanta Reunion Part two, it was good.
Did you think it's goods?

Speaker 4 (01:53):
You know, these girls did a great job this year.
They really really did. And they all speak their minds.
They go at it, but they actually let each other speak.
They let each other talk.

Speaker 3 (02:10):
And yell at each other, and they yell right back,
and it's like yellow.

Speaker 4 (02:14):
Right, but it's almost it's yelling, but it's productive yelling.
To me, they get to resolution.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
So the thing that's your language, that's my language, Like,
that's we we can connect like that, Like we could
yell at each other. Some cast members and different shows.
They're like, oh, I'm triggered, you hurt me.

Speaker 3 (02:31):
It's hard to deal with people like that.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
So that's why I love watching Atlanta because they can
like dish it out and they can just sit there
and be like, well you look sixty five, you know,
and like, no big deal, don't care.

Speaker 3 (02:42):
You know what.

Speaker 4 (02:43):
Angela bringing her birth certificate in to prove how old
she is.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
Nineteen eighty one eighty one. By the way, I had
a son. It was born in nineteen eighty five.

Speaker 4 (02:57):
I was still grammar school. No, I think it was
just in heigh. No, I graduated in nineteen eighty eight.
I was in. I was like in fifth grade, but whatever.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
We're not in fifth grade in eighty five. You graduated
in eighty.

Speaker 4 (03:11):
Eight, graduated high school in nineteen eighty. No, I thought
you said nineteen eighty one.

Speaker 3 (03:16):
Nineteen oh yeah, oh you mean okay, yeah yeah.

Speaker 4 (03:19):
So trying to think where I was in my life.
I was in when she was born.

Speaker 3 (03:22):
Okay, oh yeah you were yeah, I was eleven. Where
you're right, You're right.

Speaker 2 (03:26):
I was thinking eighty she was born in eighty five.
For some reason, no eighty one.

Speaker 4 (03:30):
Okay, so all right, okay, so we don't you know,
it's been a hard season for her.

Speaker 3 (03:37):
Well, she brought it, that's for sure. No, it starts
to share her she had her own, ye, I mean
for a newbie. Holy moly.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
It starts out with Andy asking Angela how she was
certain Phedra sent Marcus, you know, and that whole debacle
about we didn't get any resolution from this, like we.

Speaker 4 (03:54):
Don't go in Italian, we say we got o goats
means we got nothing.

Speaker 3 (03:59):
We got shit, Dick, we got dick ship, we got nothing.

Speaker 4 (04:02):
I mean, I'm so on on underwhelmed with this. It
could have been.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
I expected there to be some kind of like aha moment,
like holy shit, I think that we got it. After
the reunion aired, there's been a lot of talk from Marcus,
but he's not credible.

Speaker 4 (04:20):
Not not this much, No, not at all this much.
Not even Marcus. I'm not talking shit. I mean, it's
just the truth. B you're all over the place versus.

Speaker 3 (04:32):
Then it's Angela. Then it's this part, like dude, to
sit down, shut up. I'm embarrassed for.

Speaker 4 (04:37):
You know what, I'm already annoyed by it. I'm already annoyed.
I don't even want to know who really did it.
I don't care. I don't care.

Speaker 2 (04:44):
Well, Angela had big giant balls. She's like she was
going after Phaedra and she was telling her like.

Speaker 3 (04:50):
You're you just did this to secure your spot.

Speaker 4 (04:54):
You're a self producer, Angela, did you just meet spots
than anybody I know that's always got more secure spots.

Speaker 2 (05:07):
I mean the last person that had secure spots was
probably Bethany Frankel. You know what these girl like, she
probably has in her contract that she can never be fired,
and they probably went, Okay, we'll sign that.

Speaker 4 (05:18):
Phaedria's got she's got a law degree, she's got uh
she's a mortician.

Speaker 3 (05:27):
She's she's a healer.

Speaker 4 (05:30):
Healer. She to me, was great on your She she
was a great trader. She's wanted everywhere, and she's been
in and out of a lot of rooms. Angela. We
can't belittle what the queen isots. I don't know why
why Angela's got a heart on for her.

Speaker 3 (05:49):
Oh, she had a huge heart on for her.

Speaker 4 (05:51):
Now.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
She was saying that she met Charles ten years ago
or knew Charles, and and she's like she's like, no, no,
you didn't.

Speaker 4 (06:00):
Yeah, Angela, so what? So what if they met? So what?
And then and then going after Phaedra and I happen
to like Angela and I want to speak to her
about her hot flashes. But I mean after going after Phajia,
weill your brother's friend Facebook.

Speaker 2 (06:16):
And then sisters brothers on Facebook, on MySpace and Delren's
the whole whole thing about you know, them talking about
what rooms they're in. Yeah, so you get that right,
Like I'm in well she was like Oscar Emmy's and
I'm like, well, what room.

Speaker 3 (06:32):
Are we in? Are we like in Target or Walmart?
What room are we in?

Speaker 4 (06:36):
I mean, Laura, I can tell you I'm in CBS
most of the time.

Speaker 3 (06:39):
Yeah, yeah, it's only room in my bedroom.

Speaker 4 (06:42):
And I'm in my Target, I'm in Yeah, No, I'm
I don't even know if I'm in a room. I
don't even think I qualified for a room at this
moment and time, but yeah.

Speaker 3 (06:53):
I had, I'm in a closet.

Speaker 2 (06:55):
I was most impressed that Phaedri grabs somebody else's phone
to call her brother and she knew his phone number
by heart.

Speaker 4 (07:02):
I thought this, listen the love of my brother is
the love of my life. I can never say it enough.
I know his phone number by heart.

Speaker 3 (07:09):
You do, I do, because he had it for like
thirty years or something.

Speaker 4 (07:13):
Yeah, forever thirty thirty thirty plus. Yeah. So I know
my brother's number. I know his friend Danny Diangelis's number.
I know. I know numbers when I could remember things.
I don't remember numbers from when I started to lose
my memory.

Speaker 3 (07:29):
Okay, you know what number? I know?

Speaker 4 (07:30):
It makes sense.

Speaker 2 (07:31):
What Who's the only number I remember is my childhood
phone number. I don't know my husband's number by heart.
I don't know my kid's numbers by her. I know, yeah,
my phone number from when I grew up because.

Speaker 3 (07:45):
We had to hear no who has a landline anymore?

Speaker 4 (07:49):
My mom?

Speaker 3 (07:50):
Okay, think, oh my gosh. Yeah it was uh.

Speaker 2 (07:55):
It was impressive that she was able to pick up
that phone call her brother. I didn't even knowin t
met it which I know Phaedria's siblings. I didn't know
that she had a brother or a sister.

Speaker 4 (08:05):
I'd love to see mee at her I'd love to
meet her family. You know, I always I always get
to know people through their family. A lot, and I'd
love to meet. I'm intrigued and she's an amazing mom.

Speaker 2 (08:18):
To have her siblings been on TV before or no,
I've never saw, but.

Speaker 4 (08:24):
Guess what, you've never seen mine either. I'm one of five.

Speaker 3 (08:28):
How come.

Speaker 4 (08:29):
They're not interested? They would do whatever I told them
to do. They'd stand on her head if I told
them to do it, But they just haven't really. They
never really took an interest in my family, and I figured,
why push that they didn't sign up for this. Yeah,
normal people get nervous to do these things camera. I
don't know.

Speaker 3 (08:47):
Well, you know, I had a lot of family members
that would do it in the beginning.

Speaker 2 (08:51):
And then the first time they look bad on the show,
they're like, are you doing that again?

Speaker 3 (08:55):
I'm not getting paid to look like an ass exactly.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
I think my brother got labeled as the angry drunk
person at a party.

Speaker 4 (09:05):
Oh well, my sister did come on one time. She
finally made it to air, and they put her down
as my cousin. Oh my gosh, when she walked in
under her name and said Delora.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
Forget it, forget it. I know that my the girl
that does my hair, Michelle. She texts me and she's like,
oh my god, I finally made an episode.

Speaker 3 (09:22):
She's been filming with me for I don't know, fifteen.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
Years and funny and she and it's always she's got
one arm that's tattooed, and do you always see her tattooed.

Speaker 3 (09:31):
Arm doing the hair.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
She's like even they even said my name there and everything,
and I'm like, oh wow.

Speaker 4 (09:39):
God, bless her. She finally Meanwhile, my the girl that
does my hair, Marissa Stissy, they did a whole season
about because yeap, when Jayden it was all over Marissa Stissy.

Speaker 3 (09:55):
Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
So well, when Angela says that someone in favor threatened
her with hands.

Speaker 4 (10:03):
It's so funny when Andy hears these things, because they
really have the sayings these girls in Atlanta, don't they.

Speaker 3 (10:09):
I didn't know what it meant. Oh I know what
it meant, but like she was gonna hit her.

Speaker 4 (10:15):
I got hands. So if someone comes up to me
and says I got hands, I'll be like, and.

Speaker 3 (10:21):
What does it mean?

Speaker 4 (10:23):
It means they're going to hit you. They're going to
pay down, so they cut out. Like when somebody says
throw hands, you've heard that. Yeah, they took the throw out.

Speaker 3 (10:33):
Oh Okay, that's because they bleep part of it when
they were saying it.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
They bleeped it, and I'm like, I'm not every time no,
But at the reunion they bleep part of what they
were saying, so I didn't completely understand it.

Speaker 4 (10:46):
They bleeped a lot of names. Maybe it was pissed
off that we never resolved the whole Marcus thing that
I don't even want to hear anybody else's Bullshitulders, they're
coming with.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
Me, I know. I mean the guys like they tell
about it being just about everybody on the cast. And
then Cynthia comes forward and says, if Angela set this up, this.

Speaker 4 (11:06):
Is the biggest, biggest heist. It's like all times, no,
listen to me. I don't. I don't know what to
believe anymore. But I need to move on from it
because I don't think I think it's a very.

Speaker 3 (11:18):
You and Andy Cohen both.

Speaker 4 (11:20):
He's like, unless you come up and you got true facts,
he really don't want to hear it. Yeah, and you
know what else, he hates really bad shit that happens
off camera. He's not interested. He's not wasting the reunion,
even though that happened on camera. But another pet peeve
of his is talking about something that happened with a

(11:40):
blog or off camera.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
Well, I think it's a pet peeve of all of
ours at this point. You know, Orange County has been
hit with that this year and people are like outraged,
They're like, stop giving these blogs. Well, the content creators attention,
because what's happening now is the bottom feeder ones are
trying to do something to get their name into the
show and that and that's where it's getting really bad

(12:05):
like that. You know that there's a lot of great
content creators out.

Speaker 4 (12:07):
There, a lot of wonderful, amazing.

Speaker 3 (12:10):
To promote the shows that give their opinions, and.

Speaker 4 (12:13):
I love it. I embrace them, I invite them. I
love their criticism, constructive criticism, and and it's a good
POV of what's going on and what people that are
watching really feel about it. So I love, I love
a good one, but I don't like the toxic ones,
like the ones that are just out to get their

(12:35):
name out and just.

Speaker 3 (12:36):
To yeah exactly.

Speaker 4 (12:50):
So we're anyway, but you know, moving on from whatever
stupid shit that we got no resolution from.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
Well, Andy asks Angela, like, where does she stand with
the ladies.

Speaker 4 (13:04):
Now, I don't think anybody was nice to her, not
one person. Well, she was very vocal, she was she was,
but nobody's nice to her.

Speaker 3 (13:15):
Well, she says that she can move on, and she
wants to move on.

Speaker 4 (13:19):
Of course she does. She wants to stay on the show.
And unless people people want to be your friend, you're
not staying.

Speaker 2 (13:24):
Very true, Kelly wanted to dispute that she ever compared
her marriage to Angela's, but obviously they have flashback show
that Kelly said she's been.

Speaker 3 (13:32):
An Angela's position. So I mean you have to in
these shows. You have to think ten steps ahead.

Speaker 4 (13:39):
You really do you do? But I mean, I can't
remember what I said this morning. So when you when
you're sitting on that couch six months a year later
and you don't, it's a valid excuse to say I
don't remember. But you also have to own it and
say if I said it, If I said it, you

(14:01):
do it camera, Yeah, yeah, if I said it, then
I apologize or don't. But you can't adamantly deny because
if it's coming up, chances are they're going to make
you look like a liar and flash that you said it.

Speaker 3 (14:15):
They love doing that, Oh they love it.

Speaker 4 (14:17):
It's like, well, we talked about.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
It earlier, a little bit about Angela having to prove
her birth date. Now Andy brought it in as a
question from a fan. Do you think that that was
a fair question to ask?

Speaker 4 (14:31):
Or was it? Like, you know, I find that Angela
handled all of that really well. Am I mad at
him bringing it up? No? Because it was such a
talked about thing on camera. So but like I said, like,
I probably would be upset by that because you know,

(14:52):
I tried to stay looking young. That would really bother me.

Speaker 2 (14:56):
I think I would bother any woman to think that
there are people are saying she looks ten years older
than what she actually that's.

Speaker 4 (15:02):
A lot ten years older? Is there really a lot?

Speaker 2 (15:06):
And then Angela says like, if I look fifty three, Phaedri,
you look sixty three.

Speaker 3 (15:11):
Oh my, oh god, here we go, here we go.

Speaker 4 (15:15):
Asone handles her, well too, let me tell you about Phaedri.
She don't lose her cool.

Speaker 3 (15:19):
She doesn't. She did not lose her cool at all.
This part's confusing.

Speaker 2 (15:25):
When Andy asked about Angela's rental properties and she basically
said she foreclosed on them, and I'm like, how can
anybody in this day and age have their properties go
into foreclosure?

Speaker 4 (15:36):
Like she paid too high for them. The market was
really high.

Speaker 3 (15:41):
I mean, I don't know the market in Atlanta, but
I'm like, isn't that.

Speaker 4 (15:44):
Oh, I don't know it is Atlanta, But there was
a time where houses were selling. There was bidding wars
over these homes, and people paid a lot more for them,
and then the market went out. So and I buy
so many. See, I'm so worried. Like that would give me.

Speaker 3 (16:04):
Well, I would have found something to do.

Speaker 2 (16:05):
I would have started renting them out or do something
to try to hold on to them until maybe the
market got better.

Speaker 3 (16:12):
Or it's just very confusing to me.

Speaker 4 (16:15):
I would have to say that she probably tried everything
she could before she did that. She was in major debt.
This woman distress she had, I mean, all these women
on this cast, I don't know how they did it
this season just to talk about her stress alone. She
had the financial issue, which that was would have been

(16:36):
enough to put me in the hospital. Then she had
her poor mom passed away. God bless her. Yeah, she
the mom passed away. Then she had to fight for
her marriage and everybody attacking her husband then she has
Marcus come out of the woodwork or from under the rock,

(16:56):
and then she has to keep her husband calm that
he doesn't punch him in the face and get charged
with something.

Speaker 3 (17:04):
Yeah, she did. She went through a lot, for sure.
Now Andy did not hold back when he asked Pedra, like, Phedra,
you skip Married to Medicine reunion?

Speaker 4 (17:13):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (17:13):
What made you come here? And and he really dove
into it, like you skip the reunion and you don't
like that, you don't like that? Probably doesn't like that.

Speaker 4 (17:22):
No, I mean there did skip the reunion too, so
it was like throwing salt in the wound. You can't.

Speaker 2 (17:28):
But if you decide not to go to the reunion,
you're deciding that you're not ever coming back.

Speaker 3 (17:34):
They won't bring you back. No, I mean, I'm concern
or something's happening, or.

Speaker 4 (17:41):
Didn't somebody not show up to a reunion on Jersey
one time? But then they did come back.

Speaker 3 (17:46):
I don't remember was wait, didn't marry Cosby.

Speaker 4 (17:49):
Or somebody Mary Cosby didn't know? People have come back
from this, But probably they really have to need you.

Speaker 2 (17:57):
They really have to need you if you're like a
no show at the reunion like they don't need bread.

Speaker 4 (18:02):
It's not okay, that's not okay.

Speaker 2 (18:04):
Yeah, yeah, but she said she's skipped married to Medicine
Union because she had nothing left to give them, and
the ladies didn't give her any didn't hold any value
in her being on the show.

Speaker 4 (18:15):
They weren't nice there.

Speaker 3 (18:17):
I never watched it, so I don't know.

Speaker 4 (18:20):
I did tune in a few times because she was
on it, and I felt that she had no connection
to anybody on the cast. I could be wrong.

Speaker 3 (18:29):
Because she's a housewife at heart.

Speaker 4 (18:31):
They even brought Apollo to something.

Speaker 3 (18:34):
Okay, that's just I think.

Speaker 4 (18:35):
Yeah, they brought Apollo. I feel like that happened. And
she was like, are you trying to bother me with that?
Like it didn't work, Like give me a break?

Speaker 2 (18:45):
Well that Andy moves on and asked me a Poorsche
for Gabe phaedor too easily?

Speaker 4 (18:51):
Who said that? And Andy did? I missed that Poorsche Forgavee?

Speaker 3 (18:56):
And this is where I'm like, are we talking about
years ago? What happened years ago?

Speaker 4 (19:01):
Yeah, that's what he's talking about. But here's the thing.
He he said, she forgets because they don't like that.

Speaker 3 (19:09):
Yeah, I don't like that.

Speaker 4 (19:10):
Shit, well is that? And you know, but but you know,
why not forgive her because Porscha didn't catch any flak
from that, did she?

Speaker 3 (19:19):
I don't think so well. Shemida says she was upset.

Speaker 4 (19:22):
She care, yeah, but uh.

Speaker 2 (19:24):
She she said that she was upset with Pedra had said,
but she downplayed it. Phaedria calls out that Samiya's acts
cool around her but will bring up things still in interviews,
and and I mean, obviously there's some really bad blood
between Samia and Porscha, which is really sad because they've
known each other since they were kids and now it's like,

(19:49):
you know, Shemia is still hurt by Phaedra saying she's
sleeping with everyone's husband during season nine, so that's where
that came from.

Speaker 3 (19:58):
Now.

Speaker 2 (19:58):
I love seeing some of the that flashbacks of Samiah
because when she came in this season, I didn't realize
that she had been around this group for so many years.

Speaker 3 (20:09):
But she was never a.

Speaker 4 (20:10):
Full life always she wasn't even a friend of She
would just like show up.

Speaker 2 (20:17):
Well, why would Fader in the first place say that
she's sleeping with everybody's husband?

Speaker 3 (20:23):
Was there truth to that or did she just pull
that out of her ass.

Speaker 4 (20:28):
It's rumors, just rumors. It is rumors. I mean, I
don't know if there's truth to it, but it's uh,
it's being sad. It's a thing. And I mean, I
don't know, but I don't think that's true.

Speaker 3 (20:42):
Yeah, no, no, during lunch, they take a break. During lunch,
we see Charles dancing and smiling with his spies.

Speaker 4 (20:51):
It's over.

Speaker 3 (20:52):
Is that what it is? I don't know what it was,
but I'm like, oh my.

Speaker 4 (20:55):
God, I can't want to be dancing and smiling.

Speaker 3 (20:57):
It was so nice to see him like that.

Speaker 4 (21:00):
Was he being nice to her? Because I only saw
the part where I'm glad for her that he's giving
her that in the end, like she needs that, because
I did. I did walk away from I was doing
something and I maybe just missed that part. I saw
it when they took their break and to me and

(21:23):
and Kelly were talking and then I just for a second,
I didn't watch it, but yeah, so it was.

Speaker 3 (21:29):
A split split second. But he came in.

Speaker 2 (21:31):
He was dancing and she was dancing, and they were
all excited, and I was super quine. I got that,
but she stood by her man and then Denis shows
up Dennis.

Speaker 3 (21:40):
I know, I was a little bit shocked.

Speaker 2 (21:43):
I mean, I know there was a lot of talk
about him, but he's not dating anybody on the show,
so like he's not attached romantically to anybody on the show.

Speaker 3 (21:50):
So I'm like, why is he there? But then I'm like, ah,
I get it.

Speaker 2 (21:54):
There's a lot going on between Porischa and Drew, the
whole triangle.

Speaker 4 (21:58):
Yeah, no, he absolutely should have been there, And I
wonder if he's going to clear up some things because
you know, they really call and Drew out for being
a liar on so many levels.

Speaker 3 (22:11):
They do that every single year, every year.

Speaker 4 (22:15):
Yeah, so you know he does. Do I think something
happened between the two of them? What do you think?

Speaker 3 (22:27):
Possibly?

Speaker 4 (22:28):
Possibly?

Speaker 3 (22:29):
Well, touchy touch.

Speaker 4 (22:30):
She did try to get in touch with Porscha. Porscha
really didn't care that much about it, to be honest,
I think I don't think that Porscha really Porscha only
cared when Drew when she thought that they were going
to film together on the show.

Speaker 3 (22:47):
Yeah, she just didn't want him on the show, Like, no,
she don't.

Speaker 4 (22:50):
Want him, She don't want him she and she don't
care who he's with. She just don't want them together
on the show. Lusha's very covetous of her show and
her position on the show, and yeah, I've seen this before.

Speaker 2 (23:05):
Yeah, I felt like Portia was a little bit more
activated at the reunion.

Speaker 3 (23:10):
Was all season long.

Speaker 4 (23:11):
One percent. But you have to think about what she
was going through another person. She's going through that nasty divorce,
the husband gets deported, She was upset, and I honestly
don't know where this because I had reports that they
were on a vacation in Dubai and very close and

(23:32):
very together. Something happened from that to that, And it
wasn't far after that where a lot of people are
shocked like where did this come out of?

Speaker 2 (23:41):
So, oh my god, are you following speaking of that?
Are you following the Denise Richards stuff? Right?

Speaker 3 (23:48):
Your mouth is open? Oh my every day it's like
I open up my own.

Speaker 4 (23:52):
Ape that's in your camp, give me some link something here.

Speaker 2 (23:56):
It's not And I just it just made me think
about it. I know it's totally off subject, but I
was just.

Speaker 4 (24:00):
Like, no, it's not I want a subject talk about this. Yeah. Second,
I mean she's got black guy.

Speaker 2 (24:07):
Yeah, he's accusing her of cheating he's now he's coming forward.
I mean, it is getting really really messy. I haven't
read how she got the black eye.

Speaker 4 (24:18):
I believe her, and and the way she's very detailed
in the beatings. A lot of people are passing it off.
They had rough sex and they were into this lifestyle.

Speaker 3 (24:31):
Are you serious? I didn't Oh.

Speaker 2 (24:32):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, like he come out and say
that he actually did that to her.

Speaker 4 (24:37):
And you know what, a lot of people are going
against her and I'm really discussed.

Speaker 3 (24:40):
Ah, that's sad. But we saw clips from the show
that have resurfaced and Teddy back in the day actually
kind of called it out.

Speaker 4 (24:51):
Oh well, if Teddy called it out, we all know that.

Speaker 3 (24:55):
Yeah, yeah, Teddy was right back then.

Speaker 2 (24:57):
What she's saying something about he was they were walking
away from a party and he grabbed her hand and
she's like not now, cameras are on and he's like
said something like I'll break your hand.

Speaker 3 (25:09):
Something like that, and then her out. Yeah, something like that.

Speaker 2 (25:13):
I'm like, oh if he says, like when he has
a mic on him, like, oh oh, how.

Speaker 4 (25:19):
I wish for her peace and safety. Yes, I agree, Listen,
Denise needs help. If there's anybody around her. That can
help her. Now she needs help because this is when
things happen.

Speaker 3 (25:31):
Yeah, our thoughts are with you, Denise for sure.

Speaker 4 (25:34):
Yeah. Just sorry you're going through that. I really am.

Speaker 2 (25:37):
Well moving on from that, and they get back from
their lunch break, their forty five minute lunch break.

Speaker 4 (25:46):
And it never seems that lunch break question is that
like three seconds?

Speaker 2 (25:51):
It's they say, it's forty five minutes. Do you take
your dress off when you're at the reunion, Tamera?

Speaker 4 (25:57):
I take my dress off as I'm walking off the stage.

Speaker 3 (25:59):
You, I just don't.

Speaker 2 (26:02):
I feel like I don't know, like I'm a I
don't know biscuits, Like if I take the dress off,
Everything's gonna fall open and.

Speaker 3 (26:09):
Then I'm never gonna be able to get it on.

Speaker 2 (26:24):
So they get back from the lunch break and they
got all the dresses back on and everything, and Andy Reids,
Kenya's tweet and BRIT's Instagram story about not attendee some onion. Now,
I thought Kenya was very classy and what she said,
and at the end of it she said something like,

(26:44):
I look forward to seeing you next season.

Speaker 3 (26:48):
Do you think she's coming back next season?

Speaker 4 (26:50):
Well, here's the thing. I don't know. I'm not sure. Yeah, listen,
are we coming back next season? Like there's always right,
you never know, there's there's you don't know, you don't know.
The powers that be make the decisions, and it goes

(27:11):
I think far past Andy and far past I mean,
it is a chain there that goes up pretty really high. So,
and I think that a lot of times the fans
are a part of that too. The fans have power
in this on whether or not somebody.

Speaker 2 (27:28):
We're not talking fans on Instagram, by the way, guys,
because we're talking to learn. Yeah, we're talking numbers, we're
talking focus groups, we're talking things like that.

Speaker 4 (27:37):
Yeah. So so I think that sometimes, like that's a
factor I don't really know, and who really knows what's
going to happen with this legally? You know, when legal
gets involved, it gets real murky. Yes, So like we'll
see what happens with this. Her statement, BRIT's statement regarding
the fact that that was not her in the pictures,

(27:59):
and now we're getting to who gave them to Kenya
Drew almost shit her pants because they were like, well,
you know, a cast member, a cast member, I so
Poria said, I was aware of these pictures being sent
to a cast member, and the cast member then gave

(28:21):
them to Kenya in no uncertain terms. Did I know
what Kenya was going to do with them? Yeah, so
we get it, but now no one's talking to Kenya anyway.
Was fighting with Kenya? I think?

Speaker 3 (28:35):
Yeah, she said Drew, Drew's name was dropped.

Speaker 2 (28:38):
Who gave it?

Speaker 4 (28:39):
Drew gave it, and Drew was like, well, somebody sent
them to me. That's not what we asked you, Drew,
we asked you. Did you give them to Kenya? I mean,
at the end.

Speaker 2 (28:47):
Of the day, like, if you're on a cast and
some scandalous something has come up, it's not uncommon for
one of us to send it to another cast member.

Speaker 3 (28:56):
Oh my god, says and then that one, doesn't it?

Speaker 4 (28:58):
That one?

Speaker 3 (28:59):
However, what you do with that? If you blow them up.

Speaker 2 (29:02):
Poster signs, not the cast, it's the person that did it.
So maybe Drew was a messenger, but Kenya, you know,
she's taken accountability for it. She's the one that ultimately
displayed them.

Speaker 4 (29:15):
Yeah. So yeah, and in a very bad way.

Speaker 2 (29:20):
But the girls are questioning Brett a lot, and Shemya
says the night after Kenya showed the pictures. They went
out with Britt and she was happy and fine. She
like they sent her somewhere along the line. Her demeanor
had changed about.

Speaker 4 (29:34):
This, and yeah, it's called she spoke to a lawyer
or somebody reached out to her and said, you have
a case, and that's when the demeanor changed.

Speaker 2 (29:42):
Yeah, she was really happy and everything, and then she
came back to the group next day film in distraught.

Speaker 3 (29:47):
So they're like, oh, yea calling bullshit. And then they
also questioned how long did she know that these pictures
were not of her? And who the hell are these
pictures of?

Speaker 4 (30:00):
Well, I don't know when she saw them because she
left the party and then Kelly left the party when
they came out. And then how about the fact that
our Queen of the Lady, Queen Miss Cynthia Bailly, the
mother Teresa of Atlanta, comes over here and she's like, well,

(30:23):
she doesn't speak to me. When Cynthia Billy is the
one that stayed.

Speaker 3 (30:27):
Said Jinda's person ever and from the king to cut
her off, it doesn't make any sense to me.

Speaker 4 (30:32):
Yeah, but Cynthia stayed there and said, you know, this
isn't something I expect from you. I'm here. I didn't leave,
but like you know, I don't you know you have
You're better than that, You're better than this. And she
actually did stay for her and then she doesn't stop,

(30:54):
you know, or whatever? What do you expect? You can't
believe other get mad at other people because you fucking.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
If it's not you in those pictures, what grounds do
you have to see? And why don't you go to
the reunion and say, listen, bitch, that wasn't me and
that yeah, yeah, well fight back against because Kenya's.

Speaker 3 (31:13):
Not there, but at least say her peace.

Speaker 4 (31:15):
Say you know, Drew, did you send them to me?
Did you send did somebody send you pictures? Why didn't
you send them to me instead of somebody that wanted
or hurt me? Yeah, those pictures were not sent to somebody.
Here's the thing. Sometimes friends don't need information that will
they can use that against someone that will come back
and hurt them. I understand that, Am I saying it right?

(31:39):
Holding withholding something from a friend who cannot handle information
in the correct way is not wrong. It's just not yeah,
unless it's about them personally. But if they're gonna if
you know that friend is gonna get themselves in trouble
with that. Whatever it is you give them, then don't

(31:59):
give it them.

Speaker 2 (32:01):
Well, I felt bad for Cynthia because she looked clearly
she was upset. She's you know, they've been deserves like,
come on, Kenya, just give Cynthia call. Cynthia has always
been there first. She's always been on your side, like,
come on. Andy asked how Shmiah felt about Britt accusing
her of lying about Shiloh being ill.

Speaker 4 (32:18):
First of all, she's not lying about her child being No. No,
what she did say, and it wasn't more than she
was said she was lying about the child being ill.
It was the fact that if she was so upset,
and I did this is what I got from Britt,
And she said, if she was so sick, why didn't

(32:41):
you go right home? And you were so upset, If
you were so upset about how sick she was, then
why did you go to Miami instead of going right home?
And that's a valid question.

Speaker 3 (32:54):
It is a valid question.

Speaker 4 (32:55):
I'm a fan of Shamiyah. I think she's great. I
think she's great for the show. I think she's very accomplished.

Speaker 2 (33:01):
But we don't know, we don't know how Shiloh was
doing at that time.

Speaker 3 (33:06):
It could have been that, you know, Shiloh.

Speaker 2 (33:08):
She got that phone call and Shiloh was doing really
you know, poorly at the time, but took her to
the doctor, doctor parn antibiotics and she was on her
way to becoming better.

Speaker 3 (33:18):
And if you're but if you're I mean, I agree,
I agree.

Speaker 4 (33:23):
If you're going to upset at home, go home, like
you were sobbing the not it's not the veins are
coming out the whole. Everybody's holding you up. You're like,
you're like sobbing. Like I take crying very.

Speaker 3 (33:39):
Serious, because you don't cry.

Speaker 4 (33:41):
Yeah, I take crying.

Speaker 3 (33:46):
Your ice queen kidding.

Speaker 4 (33:49):
If you're gonna cry like that, get on the next
plane home. If that's the level of emotion that's this
is evoking from you. I don't think think she was kidding.
I don't think she was making it up. I don't
think she was over exaggerating how she felt about it.
But if you're gonna go that far, then go home.

(34:09):
Yeah that's all that. Yeah, And you know, it's a shame.
I hate to see Britt go because as much as
I may not be the biggest fan of her, she.

Speaker 3 (34:19):
And she will say anything.

Speaker 4 (34:21):
But I think that girl don't hold back.

Speaker 2 (34:22):
Angela's got to that point too. She does not hold
back at all. Nothing is She's not evil, Yeah, she's.

Speaker 4 (34:31):
I don't think anybody really is. But Britt like you,
you know you, you had a place in this business.
I hate to say it. There's always a good place
for a villain in a housewife world.

Speaker 3 (34:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (34:44):
Well, then we get to the music of it all,
the Shamiyah and the Drew. Smiya says she has never
shaded Drew's music or voice. Now we know that Drew
has shaded Shamia's voice.

Speaker 4 (34:56):
She said she couldn't hold a note. Yeah, did you
see wait, did you see Drew sing? And she's sang
the Star spangled banner at a baseball game, like a
big professional baseball game.

Speaker 3 (35:09):
I got the Red Sox or something.

Speaker 4 (35:11):
Yeah, something like that, something like that, guys, And how'd
she do? How did she do well?

Speaker 3 (35:19):
I went to recall Shemia and ask her, I.

Speaker 4 (35:22):
Think you should. I went to read that. Listen. I
cannot sing. I cannot sing.

Speaker 3 (35:27):
Oh, I can't sing either, So I am no.

Speaker 4 (35:30):
One to speak of. The comments underneath were good, However,
I don't didn't think she was on the level to
be able to sting that. I don't think it was
that great.

Speaker 3 (35:44):
Eh, well, there it is, right out of Dolores's mouth.
You suck.

Speaker 4 (35:48):
Sorry, I have no right. No, she didn't suck. She
didn't suck.

Speaker 3 (35:53):
Well, Carl's a bitch, right, but listen.

Speaker 4 (35:57):
In the back, uh you know what we you and
they were having a conversation of how talented she really is.

Speaker 3 (36:04):
I think she's talented, I really do.

Speaker 4 (36:05):
Yeah, I know she's a triple threat. Amazing great love it. However,
that was not I don't know that that was your
best performance because that's a song very near and dirt,
like I get chills when I hear it.

Speaker 3 (36:19):
A hard song to sing too, it's a.

Speaker 4 (36:20):
Very hard song to sing so well.

Speaker 2 (36:24):
Drew says no, no, no, no, and disputes it and
says she never made fun of her singing, which we
all saw, and Samia said, she did.

Speaker 3 (36:32):
You lie. You're a liar.

Speaker 2 (36:33):
You lie about everything, including your Judah leebr bag.

Speaker 3 (36:39):
And I died at the moment when.

Speaker 4 (36:41):
You're not bringing out the Kara Cosmo bag.

Speaker 2 (36:43):
The pettiness of bringing out the bag, and I'm just like, oh,
I love this this is amazing.

Speaker 4 (36:51):
The bag had to be sold out by now. I
actually Poorsche wanted it.

Speaker 3 (36:56):
She said.

Speaker 2 (36:57):
You know when she said she wanted, She's like, let's
see how today ends.

Speaker 4 (37:01):
But wait, she gets called out for it, and then
she says, I have the receipts at home. They're like,
just stop, just yeap lying, she's lying. Just like what
about when she said Michael Jordan was her cousin.

Speaker 2 (37:17):
Well, every cast member passed and present has called Drew
a liar at one time or another. Kenya Porscha, Shamia,
Charae Candy, there's I mean, where there's smoke, there is fire.

Speaker 4 (37:30):
She I mean I wanted to say, like no, because
I hate to go with what all the cast members
are saying, because once you're dubbed something, it kind of
sticks with you, whether it's true or not. Like like
somebody calls you a name and then like your whole
career you're known as that, and then like I'm like,
I'm gonna see for myself, and so I did, and yeah,
I agree.

Speaker 2 (37:51):
Well, I think it's hilarious because we have cast members
that will wear and Carrie fake designer clothes and back
and all that jewelry and I just laugh every time
because you can spot it from a mile away. You
can spot I shouldn't be able to well, obviously they're
not good ones, but it just to me, it's just

(38:13):
it's insecurity in.

Speaker 4 (38:14):
Somebody that they just have to have.

Speaker 2 (38:17):
I mean, when you're dripped in fake designer stuff, you
have an issue. You have an insecurity issue, Like I
get it, you can't afford it. Oh so you have
like a fake Chanel bag if that's what makes you happy. Whatever,
but don't go and try to act like you're dripped
in Chanel and sell fake and you're a rich bitch
when you're not. You're selling me a bunch of bullshit.

Speaker 4 (38:39):
You know, I've never been. You and I are very
much alike like this, Like we're not spenders, right, no,
Like Paul wants to buy me, Like I get my
gifts like my good bags, but I don't really use them.
I use my twenty five dollars little sack like comfy
bag or you know, my in you know whatever. It's
just my mother, like what are you carrying? And my

(39:01):
mother could she's like the most simple person in the world.
She's like it doesn't even have a zipper on I'm like,
it's not my thing. Mom, I don't want to, you know,
but but but that's not I don't I don't fault.
I don't judge. People do things. That's so funny, but
no one judge you. I found some Aviator Nation esque

(39:22):
things on Amazon.

Speaker 3 (39:25):
Well you know what, Okay, that's different. That's like a dupe.

Speaker 2 (39:27):
But when you have one that like a sweatshirt that
says Chanel and it's not wrong and it's actually channel,
then you that that is embarrassing.

Speaker 4 (39:36):
You remember a channel we're showing our age now, No,
I don't channel. It was like a Sears.

Speaker 2 (39:42):
It was like, oh really like a Zodie's Yeah yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (39:46):
Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (39:47):
So Annie asked Porsche if she thought Britt was being
malicious by sharing that she saw Porscha's text messages.

Speaker 4 (39:54):
I mean, do you think, listen, BRIT's not holding anything
back if you ever said, if you ever did, She's
not being malicious, She's being britt whatever. That is.

Speaker 2 (40:04):
Well, an wastage of conflict between Shamia and Porscha this season,
like there is a montage.

Speaker 4 (40:12):
I saw it. I think their friendship's very damaged.

Speaker 3 (40:16):
They said they're not friends anymore.

Speaker 2 (40:18):
Yeah, Porscha says that she recently. Porscha says that recently,
Samiya has been lying and bad mouthing her in interviews
and one thing that Smiya said that bugged me, and
she goes, you're lying too. I don't like that, Like
nobody should be lying about anybody.

Speaker 4 (40:36):
So apparently Porsche extended an olive branch to Shemiah and
posted for her birthday.

Speaker 3 (40:48):
Yeah, I saw that she.

Speaker 4 (40:49):
Did respond, but you know, I, you know, I'm I
do change my mind with information camera. And I'm gonna
say first, I wasn't happy with Porsche's. Porsche always lands
on her feet in this business or I think in life,
right from her from the first time we met her,

(41:09):
when she was on the bulls of her ass, what
are divorced? And then going through this one now and
winning and winning and winning from you know, making money
on the show and doing very well for herself. And
I wanted to say that I felt that she was
a little selfish this year. I felt like she didn't
feel like she needed to do things. But I also

(41:30):
did take into considered ration she was going through a
very hard divorce and very upset about it. So the
thing is is I am now a little bit more
on Porsche's side because once we saw all this stuff,
like for when Port, when Shemia first came on, she
was going to bat for Porsche, right she she was

(41:52):
really fighting for her, and I didn't think Porsche was reciprocating.
And then in the end I found like, it's not.
Porscha's not all wrong.

Speaker 3 (42:00):
No, no, she's not.

Speaker 2 (42:02):
And I have learned that me and Teddy will always
say you're only as good as this week's episode because.

Speaker 3 (42:07):
We only know what we know.

Speaker 2 (42:09):
We only know the information that we're getting from a
reality show. We only see the strongest parts of your personality,
and we don't necessarily see a well rounded person, so
you can make judgment and then the next week go
oh okay. I totally get her side. But one thing
I didn't understand is when Porscha said Shemiah tried to

(42:30):
use the show to sabotage her. If Porsha felt that way,
why didn't she bring this up during filming?

Speaker 4 (42:38):
Well, I think that during this reunion she had just
are that she had just found out about the alliance
that was formed in the beginning, and saying where was
I or she's saying yeah, you were involved, and Porscha's like,
I don't believe in that shit anyway. But I really
wasn't involved, and I don't think that that. I mean,

(43:00):
I don't really know. I'm gonna Jory's out on that.
For me, I'm not sure about Shamia right now at
this moment. Although I happened to like her a lot,
she can win me over next week. Like it's just like, it's.

Speaker 3 (43:14):
Crazy how that happens.

Speaker 2 (43:16):
It's like sometimes you, you know, even with any any
kind of star that's on TV, like you you idolize them,
Oh my god, I love them.

Speaker 3 (43:25):
I love them, and then you meet them.

Speaker 2 (43:26):
In person, You're like, god, they're an asshole. Like I
don't like that person.

Speaker 4 (43:30):
I want to So you just know, I want you
to meet a sing to me and I her. I
want to like her so much.

Speaker 2 (43:37):
I met her and I thought she was amazing, and
I thought she was sweet, she was nice, and she
did kind of sound like she was. The little conversation
we had, I was like, oh, I hope you guys
are friends again, and she's.

Speaker 3 (43:49):
Like, oh, it's just really sad. I've been friends with
her for a long time.

Speaker 2 (43:52):
So she seemed like she really cared about her, But Tamra,
what's going on with the moms?

Speaker 4 (43:58):
I think how this plays out is going to be
very telling on the future of their relationship.

Speaker 3 (44:04):
Continue to fight and then they bring their moms into
the discussion, like, I'm like, oh god, we're not going there.

Speaker 4 (44:10):
No, I want to know something. One of the moms
did something to the other moms and when that comes up,
they drop that shit right away. But guess what not
in this world?

Speaker 3 (44:22):
Well, Porsha posted something about her mom, so.

Speaker 4 (44:28):
I don't know, so I want to know. See, this
is the thing.

Speaker 2 (44:30):
When you have friends have known each other for a
very long time, there's a lot of history.

Speaker 4 (44:34):
There, and they know the bodies are buried.

Speaker 2 (44:36):
You know the bodies are buried. If it's gonna get dirty,
it's gonna get really dirty.

Speaker 3 (44:40):
And they they.

Speaker 4 (44:41):
Know so well that you're right about that camera because
when real friends fight, it gets real dirty and ugly.
When real friends fight, When like superficial friends you've only
known each other for a short time, you're gonna stab
each other in the back. No love loss here. There's
not too much you know about the person. If they're smart. Listen,

(45:03):
if you're smart, when you become friends with somebody on
the show, you probably should hold back, Oh for sure,
before you tell talk about or your husband.

Speaker 3 (45:15):
Or anything like that.

Speaker 4 (45:16):
Yeah, be careful. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (45:18):
And the first time you said, oh my god, me,
my husband got in a huge fight last night, and
then you give them details and the next thing you know,
this girl's turning on you and it.

Speaker 4 (45:24):
Has that ever happened to you on the show?

Speaker 2 (45:28):
No, I keep my family, my husband and my kids
very close. Like I don't just in general, not just
with people on the show. I really don't talk too
much about that kind of stuff.

Speaker 3 (45:43):
I mean, I definitely have said things to people.

Speaker 4 (45:45):
You know, don't think if someone did it to somebody else,
they wouldn't do it to you. Yep. So and a
lot of times people like that, even as no matter
how close to friends you get, they won't tell you
when they did something like that to somebody else, you
find out when they do it to you. Then you
find out, well, oh yeah, you'll get to go out
and say that person did it to me too. And

(46:08):
then you realize you've been sleeping with the enemy for
however many years. You know, someone who was gonna clandestinely
come after you at the end of the day anyway,
Ain't that the truth?

Speaker 2 (46:18):
So that's it for episode two of the reunion. One
more reunion to go and then then what Then we're
done with Atlanta, But then who's done?

Speaker 3 (46:28):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (46:29):
We got to figure out who's coming on next. I
feel like Salt Lake City is going to come on soon.
I just saw the previews, which was very disappointed for
the Real Househoves of London. I saw Carolyn Stanbury and
Derenda were in it, and they had cameos in the show.

Speaker 3 (46:46):
But it's not playing here.

Speaker 4 (46:49):
How do we see it on Hulu or something?

Speaker 3 (46:50):
I don't know. I don't know, but I'm like, oh, hey, hey, hey,
you yeah.

Speaker 2 (46:55):
So it's not playing in the States, but potentially Andy
said it.

Speaker 3 (46:59):
Could be picked up by Peacock.

Speaker 2 (47:01):
But then we're also doing The Ladies of London on Bravos,
So that makes me feel like mee Estra.

Speaker 4 (47:06):
Did you meet Lestra at Bravo Khan?

Speaker 3 (47:09):
I don't think so did.

Speaker 4 (47:12):
She's amazing, she's beautiful.

Speaker 3 (47:16):
Oh what show is she on?

Speaker 4 (47:18):
Lystra and Ladies of London?

Speaker 3 (47:20):
Oh okay, there's a whole lot of.

Speaker 4 (47:22):
Women like you don't even know what to do with
it like Lstra, You're a goddess, a statue. I love her.

Speaker 2 (47:32):
She's so many people at Bravo Khan and you're like overwhelmed.

Speaker 4 (47:37):
Yeah, you probably matter. She's lovely, she's a lovely person.
I'd love to see her on one of our shows.
Amazing woman.

Speaker 2 (47:45):
Okay, guys, thank you for tuning in to another episode
of Two Teas in the Pod, and we'll be back
with reunion number three next week

Speaker 4 (47:53):
And then that's it.
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