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Speaker 1 (00:02):
To Teas in a Pod with Teddy Mellencamp and Cambridge Edge.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Hi guys, welcome to another episode of to Teas in
a Pod, But this time I am missing another tea
and I have my new co host for the Real
Housewives of Orange County, Alexia and Napola. Oh my gosh,
I am so excited for our first time.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Yes, I'm so happy to be here. As some people know,
I am in Paris, so I am doing the podcast
right here for my hotel room in Paris.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
You know what that is a flex as I'm sitting
here in Encino and it's one hundred degrees and my
air conditioning's not working. Alexia is in Paris, but before
you were in Paris, you were in Madrid, And of
course I'm gonna have to ask you this straight up, god,
or I'm not going to answer it. Well, you're gonna
have to a little bit. I saw that you insinuated
(01:08):
that you had brought Todd to Madrid and he's tagged
in a photo.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Well that that was not an insinuation at all, by
the way, Like, what was it because I tagged him
that he was with me in Madrid. If that would
have been the case, you would have seen that as well.
The case was that I'm eating a club sandwich and
we would always eat clip sandwiches there, and I tagged
him because it was like his favorite club sandwich. That's exactly.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
So it was just you were just flirting.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Oh, I mean, I don't even really consider that flirting.
I just consider it like we talked about, like, oh,
make sure you have the club sandwich while you're there.
So I did. I took a picture of it, and
I tagged him so he can see how beautiful it
was and how tasty it was.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Yeah, I still think, you know what, I'm still going
to go off the fact that Todd was in Madrid.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
You could know he's not in the Drid and he's
not in Paris. This is a solo euro Tree and
I have a lot of friends in Madrid, and I'm
in Paris with one of my best friends, Johnny, and
then I'm gonna continue to London Croatia.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
All right, Well we'll see. We'll see about that. We'll
see when his head pops out of the bathroom door
behind you, it's not oh my gosh, Okay, well we'll
we'll see, we'll see, she said.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
I didn't think a club soundwich was never gonna make
it to page six, and apparently I did, just because
I tagged them.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Well the no what else has made it to page
six non stop? The picture of Larsa and Teresa photoshopped.
There are in more countries than you are now at
this point.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Like I saw that, and I saw the Marisol wanted
to add herself to to the fund and she added
her picture as well, with like a big butt that
she's never had.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Oh my god, I didn't notice that part. She added
a butt she gave herself.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
That's not Marissol's butt. Like I've known Marissol for twenty
something years. She's never had that butt.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Maybe she got a VPL while you were gone or
BPL or what is it called BBL.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Yeah, I think it was like an old photo of hers,
and I guess the she photoshopped it too, So what
would you photoshop? I guess she would photoshop a butt
on herself. Listen, I photoshop and that's not her butt.
That's never been her butt.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
My butt's a chicken butt. It just looks like too.
But well, thank you. Well, I'm excited to have you here.
As everybody knows, that listens to Tucciese and a pod
Tamra is not able to discuss Real Housewives of Orange County.
It doesn't mean that we're in a fight. It doesn't
mean that we're not doing the pod together anymore. It's
(03:35):
that Alexia is coming and filling in and going to
give all of her hot takes on Orange County, which
I'm so excited about because she has strong opinions and
I hope sometimes they don't mesh with mine because I
think that will keep this even.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
That's what's going to make it fun. And I love
that you clarify that you and Tama are okay, because
I feel like we have to be explaining ourselves like
every minute, right, Yeah, they're gonna.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Be like Teddy didn't like it, so and so happens,
and now it's no. Every time one of us is
on vacation or something happens, they're like, they broke up.
They're in the biggest fight ever. The podcast is over.
I'm like, I'm visiting my family, like, calm down. But
we're gonna start off the pod with the headline that
(04:20):
Shannon Budoor was on Jeff Lewis Live, which I don't
know have you done Jeff Lewis, No, I haven't, so
anytime you go on Jeffrey's Live.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Friends, right, Jeff Lewis and Shannon are good friends.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Yes, and they are good friends, but she essentially talks
about She revealed new details about the timeline of Alexis
Bellino's romance with John Janssen, which we got to know
Alexis for the first time when we all went to
go see we should be saying Janet Jackson, but I
just say Nelly at this point because well, I stopped
(04:57):
remembering after Nelly. But but she said we had broken
up and then they started dating about six weeks after
we broke up, and then the show started filming, and
I think they'd been dating about a month and a
half two months at that time, so it was a
new relationship. So no, it wasn't fun, but I got
through it, so you'll have to tune in. Then she
(05:18):
says she's a friend. Let's be clear, she's a friend.
She's not holding an orange, Shannon stated. Then, after it
was noted that Alexis had posted a photo of herself
with the rest of the women, Shannon said, I don't
know if this means anything, but let's take her out
because she was never in the flipping picture. Who's in
(05:39):
the ciner? That would be me? It's so thirsty, and
I'll just leave it at that. Shannon's friend Vicki, also
posted a cast photo with her cell photoshopped in it.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
So and I know that that's what the women do.
I don't think. I don't think Maraison, Nijohn and Katy
did that. No, that you shouldn't do that, But even
I was allowed to do that.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
No, they but the point being, and listen, I'm not
taking sides here at this point of the season. But
I was told that fans are the one that put
Alexis in the photo, and Alexis just shared it versus
her putting herself in there.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
But they actually do it, or whether they're fans, whether
you know the fans did it, It wasn't Bravo.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
You know how sometimes they'll film this, they'll take pictures
of us all separately because everyone's fighting, and then put
us all in No, she was at that photo shoot.
She is in the silver dress. But a fan made
that picture tagged Alexis, and then Alexa shared it. But
then Shannon was saying how thirsty it was that Alexis
did that, but a fan did it, but also so
(06:45):
did VICKI H So, I mean.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
How do you feel about that?
Speaker 2 (06:50):
I feel like, listen, if you're trying to be funny
and you're poking fun at yourself, I'm photoshop yourself into
whatever you want. Like I photoshopped Caroline Stanbury's face under
my pregnant body because she's in all this drama right
now about not wanting to get pregnant. I'm like, you
can have mine because I'm being I'm making a joke
(07:10):
of the situation, but when you're I don't know, I'm
weird about that. I also am weird about like people
calling themselves iconic or queen or any of those things.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
So what about star? I called myself a star.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
I'm actually weird about that too, right, But I mean,
I think you're a star, but you needed to tell me.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
It's slightly concerning.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
I mean, I was being funny too, but I guess
will under the context. But yeah, it was just like
a crazy moment that I had. But I feel that
Alexis was just really resharing, like what fans do you know?
I mean, I don't know that she did it to
bother Shannon. But she did it, you.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Know, But I don't think that she I don't think regardless,
I liked my time with Alexis. Do I think she's
doing things to intentionally bother Shannon?
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Sure?
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Yeah, like yeah, of course. Do you know what you're
doing right? And you can make a choice. You could
you could privately be entering a relationship if you're coming
into a new show and not. But no, no, no,
it's all over the place. And we just saw online
that they're shopping for engagement rings.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Well that's really crazy. I mean, how do you know that,
like this is a guy after such a short period
of time. But I mean, remember she told us they
have sex how many times? More times a day than
Larsus says.
Speaker 5 (08:34):
Yeah, like four or fun times a day. She said, listen,
I'm good four to five times a month. But then
Shannon said she's currently friends with some people. I don't
think I should say who, because there's stuff that happens,
especially in the first episode that's really really nice. So
let's just put this away. I'm friendly with some of
(08:55):
the cast and then some I don't speak to it all,
she explained, I am curious, who would you guess that
Shannon's close with right now?
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Hmmm, well, not worth maybe.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
I mean closest is a strong word, so I mean
at this point, maybe after her season, she's close to
a few people. But in the beginning, which is what
we saw episode one, it's kind of like she's on
her own. It's like it's all about her. It's like
everybody against her. Like that's that's what I sensed. Yeah,
and honestly made me feel a little bit uncomfortable because
(09:32):
it was like a lot. She's dealing with so many
different issues, and they're really personal issues. You know, she's
talking about like her ex boyfriend that she was with
for three years, she's talking about her children, a dui.
I mean, it's it's it's a lot. I mean I
felt I really felt bad for her, honestly.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
And what are your thoughts about? You know, something that
I've seen online in different places is that people are
coming from both directions. One are coming for the women
are terrible that they're you know, throwing this in her face.
But then there's also people saying she chose to do
the show after this happened. You know it's going to happen, right,
(10:21):
So what are your thoughts on that, like, do you say,
I feel like we all know that when we sign
up to do these kind of shows, we know what
it's about. So we you know, we've grown like thick skin,
and we know that we have to tell her story
because that's what we're there for and what we're getting
paid for. And she seems to be okay with doing it.
I mean, I have, you know, haven't watched her before
(10:42):
in the other season, so I don't know if she's
always been a very like genuine and authentic person where
she opens up and she's shared a lot about her life.
I think that's the hard part is last season there
was multiple times where they broke the fourth wall and
it's her yelling at production that she's not doing this.
So her relationship last year was kind of coming undone,
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and then the other women were kind of calling her
out on in a camera because she was having off
camera conversations and then on camera she was like things
are great, and you know that starts to rub people
the wrong way, right, and then maybe allegedly she wouldn't
remember these conversations, and then it would just became a
whole big game of telephone and that was essentially last season,
(11:26):
and then ten days after the reunion is when she
got the DUI. I had previously thought that her and
John Jansen had gone out together and she they got
in a fight out, but apparently what I've been told
is that she was already drinking in a situation, went
over to John Jansen's house, they got into a fight,
(11:49):
and he told her not to drive, and then she
drove home. That's when she crashed into the house.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
Right, Yeah, that's that's what I've heard as well, which
I think makes sense. I mean, you know, she just
had broken up with her her boyfriend after all this time,
and it had that kind of relationship, and we also
know she drinks and she likes to drink, and just
like just everything mounted up where the where she showed
up at his house and it's not the first time
(12:15):
that you know, he an ext wife or an next
girlfriend or whatnot shows up at the guy's house and
they get into an argument and she's drinking, and unfortunately
she took off her new car and she had an accident.
She could have, you know, hurt someone and she hurt
herself as well.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Yeah, I mean, because then we see her showing Heather
a bloody photo of her face, which we hadn't seen
prior to this, we had only seen her in the sling.
There was like a photo of her walking into her house,
I think with John Jansen, and it was her coming
from the hospital. But then they kind of get into
a conversation where there it's now five months later, they're
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filming Orange County. Shannon meets up with Emily and says
she's been working on herself. She's just been making some
poor decisions. She's too drink max person. And then Emily
wonders if sobriety should be an option, but Shannon says
she doesn't drink that often. Here's here's my issue. And
(13:12):
I don't want to come down on Shannon too hard.
Do I drink too much sometimes? One million percent?
Speaker 3 (13:18):
I feel like a lot of people don't.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Yeah, And I think if you say you don't drink
too much most of the time, it means that you
do have some sort of a problem. Like I can
openly admit, like, oh yeah, if I'm in a bad
place and I drink too much, I'm a shit show.
Or if I'm in a good mood i drink too much,
I'm the most fun.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Right, So that's what I was gonna say. I was
gonna say, you have to be careful because sometimes when
you're like in a really bad place and you're sad
or angry and whatnot, and you drink and that kind
of like adds to whatever feeling or emotion you're going through,
and it's not good. If you're happy and you're just
gonna get happier and it's not gonna affect yourself or
anybody else, then go ahead and do it. But definitely
not no drive, I mean definitely not.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
That was gonna be my point. But never we are
It's not like we're she's twenty one years old. We
were grown ass women like we had Like it costs
eight dollars probably for her to get an uber to
John Jansen's house to have that same fight. Right, Why
would you ever think? And that's where it gets worrisome
(14:16):
to me. Plus we have to go back to the past,
which I'm going to to kind of give you a
little history. There's always been a thing about Shannon calling
the women drunk and spewing things. But then there's always
been a thing about Shannon, like Shannon kind of went
after Gina about Gina's dui and how she was going
to lose her kids, and like really went for Gina
about her making that mistake as well. So now it's
(14:40):
come back and it's like, yeah, we're all hypocrites, but
that wasn't that long ago. That's tough.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
I mean, I get it. I mean I feel like
they obviously you're seeing it because they're on national TV
and everyone's seeing it. But I see I feel like
a lot of women do it, and a lot of
people do that that you know, they drink under the
influence and we see it every day. We were just
talking in my podcast with Marisa about justin Timberlake a
few weeks ago, and you know, it can happen to
anybody and to everyone. So it's like, that's really like
(15:09):
the point here. If you want to drink, you know,
stay home or get in a number or have a
friend driver or what not. Just don't get behind the wheel.
You just can't do that.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
It's nice.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
And then now before she's sharing all this because this
is the other thing, Teddy even it's like, okay, well
why do the show you We're gonna have to talk
about it. Well, there's this thing called social media that
everybody is like on one hundred percent of the time,
and when you're a public person, you can't hide anything.
I mean, you can hide anything. Every They found out
immediately when she was arrested and everything that happened, so
(15:40):
it's a it's already public.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Yeah, we've seen the video, We've seen everything that happened.
We saw the damage on the house, we've seen her injuries.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
So it wasn't on this show. The entire world knows
about it. So maybe she can come back now and
she can say her story and her narrative and her
side of the story.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Did you feel sympathetic watching her?
Speaker 3 (15:59):
You know I did, because you know, I am human,
I am a mom, you know, a woman, you know,
a wife. I mean, it's like it's hard to be,
you know, in her shoes right now. And I did
feel sympathetic because I have a kind heart. You know,
I have no excuse for her to drive. But there's
so many people like that right that you care and
love and they make the wrong decisions. Yeah, you know,
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so you're upset at them because they did that and
you wish they wouldn't have done it. And I don't
even know her that way, But did you think that
she wanted to get in that car and you know,
get into one accident and the whole world find about it,
and you know, and hurt herself, maybe hurt somebody, her kids.
I mean, she has to really fit feel like shit.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Honestly to not be able to travel to see your
child in another country because you're I have legal ramifications.
It's just another like when when we saw that conversation
with her kids, I was like like, yeah, I didn't
even think about that part. Like there's the whole kid's
dynamic aspect also, and like it's very hard as a mom,
at least for me to be like, hey, guys, you
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can't ever do this, but I did, right.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
Yeah, Well, I mean you can turn it into like
learn from me, you know what, Like you don't want
to end up like your mom, or you never want
this to happen to you. You know, you guys are young,
you have a life ahead of you. You know, you
can turn it always into like a life lesson. But
she has to be embarrassed. Yeah, I mean, who's going
to be proud about that? And then now she has
all the other girls that are going to be sticking
in her face all throughout the season, everything she did wrong.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
I know, I wish you would just take a little
bit of ownership about it instead of it being like
it's it's John, Like I do I love John Janssen. No,
there's a lot of guys on the show that I
don't know enough to really make a true decision. But
I've never gotten that like warm, fuzzy feeling watching him. Yeah,
I think I would like him either, by the way, Yeah,
(17:45):
I don't know why. It's not like maybe he'll grow
on me at some point. But I don't know that
you can use your circumstance as an excuse.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
Like well, I mean there's some men they know how
to push the buttons and and and I guess that
John knew that about Shannon and then put that on
top that she would drink, you know, to overcompensate whatever
she was going through, and this is the result that
you get. So, I mean I feel that that's like,
obviously you really can't blame him, but indirectly he did
have something to do with it.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Do you think that she was showing self awareness in
this episode?
Speaker 3 (18:23):
I mean, she she did own what had happened, And
I think because the entire world knows about it, so
you can't hide it. You know. It wasn't like back
in the day when there was no social media that
you can hide these things, you know, as long as
one of the other cast members wouldn't bring it up
or they were like your friend, they were white. This
was years ago when we started to show in twenty ten,
that's what would happened. But now there's no secrets, so
(18:45):
you actually have an advantage of being on a show
like this where you have your platform where you can
really speak the truth. And that's what I wish that
these women would do that. R and D shows like
Don't Lie, you know, like the But do.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
You think the true to Drink Max is a lie?
Speaker 3 (18:59):
Oh oh no, well that I don't believe her too. Yeah,
I just have two drinks and I'm not gonna crush
and do make irresponsible decisions with two drinks. But that's me.
Maybe somebody else has two drinks and they do make miss,
you know, irresponsible choices and whatnot.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
I think she was saying since then she's a true
too Drink Max person. But I'm still like, I feel
like when you have to clarify that it's a little dicey.
But Tamar questions and asks Heather if she thinks Shannon
has an alcohol problem, and Heather says she thinks that
she does. Then Gina says, Shannon is twenty years ahead
of her and she didn't like what that looked like.
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That's why she changed her life. And then Shannon says
every day she wakes up and thinks about what happened.
And that's when Tama equips is that after you've had
a drink, I don't know if that happened in real time, right,
I know? And then Shannon is done with people saying
she's a drunk who needs help. She had a really
bad night. She cries and walks off in her confessional.
(20:01):
Oh that was a lot, Yeah, it was a lot.
I think what ends up happening is that so many
times things happen off camera as well, and the women
try to protect the other women until they can't anymore
and it feels toxic. And then when the other women
won't take full of like I hate to use the word,
but accountability for something, the others just go they can't
(20:24):
handle it, like you've been doing this for years, We've watched.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
It, right, but do you know that, like what what
are the girls saying that she always behaves in this manner,
like she's always drinking and she don't like to be
the drunk. I don't know her past, so I'm not sure.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Yeah, I would say that she is a seasoned drinker
anytime I've been around her, and me too.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
Well, I feel like a lot of these women drink
too on the show just to feel more comfortable, and
that you know, to you they feel anxious, so it
takes away there anxiety. Or if they're quiet and they
have a drink, you know they're going to be more feisty.
So you know, different reasons like I don't know her
in her day to day life, you know, and I
feel that that's what really makes on alcoholics, Like I
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don't know if she only drinks when she's on camera
and around these women, or does she really wakes up
and drink? Yeah, does she wake up every day and nonfunction?
Is she a functional alcoholic? I don't know her well enough,
you know, to give my opinion. And that's why it's
hard for me to give my opinion about women that
I watch a clip up, you know, for five minutes,
because you know, it has to do with a lot
(21:32):
of things, and you know what I'm talking about. So
I don't know that, you know, and I haven't watched
her enough to know that in every season she has
been you know, accused of drinking too much, or she's
had problems handling her alcohol or whatnot. But if the
girls really care about her, they would try to help
her and not like attack her. I mean, this woman's
already going through a lot of stuff, and I feel
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like they need to be a little bit more sensitive
because they're not going to get the result they want.
I mean, if you want somebody to get better, to
actually understand or become aware, you're not not everybody's gonna
attack her, you know, have that approach towards her that's
going through stuff. So that's why acting the way she is.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
But yeah, it's like, but how many years can you
be going through stuff like always? Do you get? Is
that a card forever?
Speaker 3 (22:18):
No? I don't think it gives you the right to
behave poorly and make the wrong decisions, you know, and
we're all going through stuff. But you know, again, I
feel that all this really came to life because she
had the DUI. I mean, there's people that drink every
day and they take uber or they stay home and
pass out and nobody finds out about it. Unluckily for her,
she's a public person and that happened and the entire
world found out about it.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Yeah, so then Tamra, Jen and Emily go to the gym.
Tamra says that right after Shannon's duy, Shannon was telling
the press she wasn't drinking anymore. She was drinking diet coke,
and then at the Trace Amiga shows, Shannon would secretly
pour herself drinks. Tamar didn't feel like it was right
to continue doing a show revolving around drinking. Do you
(22:58):
agree that with Tama or that pausing that Trace a
Mega's live show was the way to go. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
I like that Tamra did that. I think that that's
being a good friend and actually supporting her. I don't know.
She had the conversation with Shannon and told her, listen,
you know this is not going to be good for you.
It's not going to be good for us. You know,
we're involved around alcohol all the time, and you know,
I get it. It's a show. You want to have fun,
We're all going to be drinking, so it's just better to,
like cancel it and not do it anymore, because you
(23:25):
could have a bigger things to worry about right now
than to be, you know, doing a show, you know,
around the country and getting drunk because all eyes are
going to be new and you need to get better.
So I don't know if that conversation happened or she
just like, you know, stop.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Yeah, I mean I can give a little insight just
to clarify, and this is not me being biased, so
everyone please relax. But I know for a fact that
Tamar absolutely was there for Shannon as support after her duy.
Tama just didn't think that doing the trace and a megas
right away was a good idea. She had found out
(24:03):
that Shannon and Vicki were saying, you know, terrible things
about her.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
They had signed on with the manager why Tamro was
in Scotland doing Traders, and then without her knowledge, gave
permission that Tamo would continue. So of course, going into
the season, Tama was going to be pissed because she
knew this was going to happen with Shannon, like she
already was like there for her. Then she went away,
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and you know how you are when you're on those
shows like you're like locked up, and they committed to
something that she had already told them. I don't think
it's a good idea. And then so she's gonna come
in hot. Yeah, Like so I think that's what happened.
Then we get to Shannon sitting down with her daughters.
(24:51):
She says the night she got her DUY, she and
John got in a big argument and he called her
a drunken idiot, and driving home, she lost control of
the car. One of her daughters says, this sucks, but
it happened for a reason. Then she said she went
through a thirty day wellness program as seeing a therapist.
And then Shannon says John called her ten days after
her DUI saying he was cutting all ties, that she
(25:14):
ruined his and his family's lives. And then six weeks
after the phone called, John started dating Alexis. Then we
flashed back to the gym. Emily brings up how Alexis's
ex husband sued Tamara and Shannon, and Tarmra says John
dating Alexis is karma. Do you feel like Shannon is
trying to insinuate John is partly to blame for her DUI?
Speaker 3 (25:38):
No, I mean I don't really think she was insinuating.
I think, like deep in her heart, you know, she
does think that a lot of her anger and frustration
and whatnot is due to the relationship that she's had
with John all the time, and she has to be pissed.
I mean, I don't know what kind of relationship they
had or if she's still in love with the guy.
I mean, I don't know that, but I mean at
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this point, she probably hates him and she saw that
he's moved on.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
So I mean, do you think she hates somewhere? Do
you think she's even more in love with him? You
know how sometimes in like really toxic relationships, like once
they they're fully gone, you just feel like I need
to get like I need to get back.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
I need you know, I think you did her favor.
I think you did her a favor by meeting Alexis,
because I don't think there's no return there. I think
he was going to stay with Alexis, And you know,
she might not realize it now, but she'll realize it
that he did her favor, and Alexis did her favor
by you know, by meeting each other and by being together,
because if not, I feel I feel like Shannon was
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going to continue with this nonsense, which yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
I did appreciate the conversations being had with her kids
because that was something I hadn't even put into my
my stratosphere of thinking. Then we get to Heather and
Terry have moved into their new house in Beverly Hills,
which I'm like, aren't we watching the Royal Housewives Orange County?
Speaker 3 (26:53):
I know, how did that happen? I was going to
ask you that, how do you live in Beverly Hills
and film and no, se Well, I think I want
to tell you.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
Well, what the reasoning behind us? I think Heather's kids
go to school in LA. They have the house in
Beverly Hills, but that's why. So Balboa Bay Club, for
anyone curious, is this like beautiful. It's not a country club,
but it's in lack of a better word. You sign up,
you're a member, and then you get one of the condos.
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So I think in order to make it all makes sense,
and they can still see Terry's mom, they have a
place at Baboa Bay Club, which is also in Orange County,
So I think they're residing in Los Angeles for the kids.
The family for Terry and then they have a place
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at Balboa Bay Club.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
I was going to google this last night, but I forgot,
so I don't want to be ignorant. But how far
is oc Orange County from Los Angeles.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Depends on traffic. Like, if I left at five forty
five in the morning, I could be at Tamra's house
in less than an hour. If I after ten am, okay,
if I left at ten am, two and a half.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
Hours, okay. Well, it's kind of like Miami, like when
I go to Marisol's house and she still lives in Miami,
Like I do it technically, Well, I mean I live
in a certain area of Sunny Owls and I'm living
in the beach, but it's an hour away as well.
So the part that's.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Different is if there was a real Housewives of Sunny Isles, right,
why would you be on Miami that that's where there's
a little bit of a I mean, I don't mind
it at all. I don't care, right, I think Heather.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
I feel like she can she can work out in
both franchises.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Listen, if you're that rich, yeah, go for it. You
can be on all the places, right, And like I'm
I'm willing to, you know, go on her jet and
go wherever she wants to go. I'll reside in her club.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
Yeah, yeah, she can come to Miami whenever she wants to.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Then, Gina tells Emily that her client's brother bumped into
Shannon at the store with a shopping cart full of boots.
Gina says Shannon gave her so much shit for Dui
and she has no respect for her now. She thinks
Shannon needs to go to rehab. Gina talks about how
she and Travis can't afford a house to fit their
combined family and they may need to live separately and
(29:13):
see where the chips lay. Later, Gina and Travis discussed
this decision, which Travis doesn't agree with and feels like
it's pulling them apart. H there's a lot to unpacked here.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
There is.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
Like one in regards to Gina and Shannon stuff. I
get that Gina is pissed at Shannon for her behavior
last year, but I also think of all of the women,
maybe Gina could have the most empathy.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
One hundred percent. That's what I was going to say.
You went through this yourself, you know how hard this is.
She shouldn't you know after she gets over the fact
that yes, Shannon said that and offended her, that she
can help Shannon in many ways.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
I mean, Gina is California sober, which is does not
mean you're free of any substance.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
Correct, I learned. I know what that meant. But I
learned that.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
Yeah. So I mean I think that, like you have,
you got to give somebody a little bit of I
don't know if if it's happened to you, like if
I had gotten ad UI. It's like me talking to
somebody that's had a divorce because I've been divorced before.
I have a little bit more empathy towards somebody who's
had one, because I like, it just gives you an
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insight that you wouldn't have if you've never had one,
and you've always thought that.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
Well, maybe throughout the season they do have that moment.
I would love to see that. I would love for
Gina and Shannon to you know, have that moment or
the differences aside and they're you know, there for each other,
and Gina actually you know, helps her and you know.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
I don't know that we should hold our breath for that.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
No, I'm a nice I don't even know what I'm doing.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
He shows them very thanks they show. They do show
them in the trailer getting along, but I feel like
it might have been like a five second teaser bake out.
But then we do get into something that I think resonated.
Gina and Travis moved into a house together. They have
a shit ton of kids. They moved them all into
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the house. There's a million bunk beds that are living together.
And then Gina shares that she is going to have
Travis move out because now the kids are getting older
and they need privacy. And Travis's ex wife, I think
has taken over too much of their space of their relationship.
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She feels like it's like a third person in their
relationship because her and her ex husband have figured out
how to co parent, and apparently this woman has not.
What I think in this moment is if we're going
to talk about her, I need her on the show.
I agree, like I need to.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
Know what she's doing right, But who do you need?
You need the ex wife?
Speaker 2 (31:51):
I need the ex wife. If we're going to talk
about her and how she's causing these problems, then let's
show her. Let's see a little bit of it, because
I think a lot of people would relate to that
and going through that struggle of I mean, if you're
willing to open up and say this about your boyfriend's
kid's mother, then that's shore right.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
Well maybe she will, no, maybe she'll she'll be a
part of the show. Maybe she'll want to do that.
I mean, I'm not sure.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
How do you feel about jen and Ryan because they
go to Jenner Jenna is finalizing her divorce, but now
her ex hasn't paid his portion of the rent and
she's getting evicted in the house that Gina found her.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
My god, this is on one episode.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
It was like a lot.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
There were so many like different stories going on, and
like a lot. It was like heavy stuff. It was
like wow, Like all.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
I kept thinking was a housewife with no house. How dreadful.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
But like I don't even understand, Like how do you
not pay for your like for your rent? Even before
you didn't share that on TV, that's like really humiliating.
I mean I would think.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
Well, I also was thinking, you're getting paid fifty dollars
a yoga class. Don't you own the studio? Like that's
what she's getting paid to go there? Like she's posting
on hers and listen, this isn't to come at gin,
but she is posting every single time she's going to
teach a class in Orange County, like to put things out.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
How many people does she have in her class? I mean,
that's not a lot of money.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
But that's why I'm saying that's a shit. That's shit.
Normally in a situation like I, I don't teach fitness
classes or anything like that. But if I do a
charity or something like that, and I say I'm gonna
be in this class, sign up, you know, like there's
it's a big money pot because the person wants to Yeah, get.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
The tea, you make her money. It's about volume. You
need to fill up your classes.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
Yeah. So that that made me worry. But then I
also thought, do you think it's a red flag that
she's moving in with Ryan? I mean his past is
that he's a cheater or whatever it may be. Solely
because she financed, can't do it on her own. Are
you like, oh, he's being a nice guy.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
I would like for me, I mean, that should not
be the reason why you move in with a man, ever,
because right there, he he knows that it's about that,
So like the relationship kind of like takes a shift.
So I'm just going to go exactly, I'm just going
to go to your house, and it's just like the
easy way out, and I wouldn't do that. I also
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think that somebody has to be because you want establish
a life together, a relationship, you're in love and whatnot,
but definitely not because you need free rent.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
Yeah, that's that's going to be. I feel like, And
now you know, since we've seen they've gotten engaged, he's
gotten allegedly in all this trouble with the stuff with
the Dodger player, the FBI is involved like all of it.
I'm just like, you're getting yourself deeper and deeper immersed
Like now it's no longer just you didn't pay your
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rent on the place that Drina found for you. Now
we're into a whole, You're into another web of issues,
which worries me. Then Emily, Heather, and Alexis meet for drinks.
Emily asked Alexis about her ring, and Alexis says it's
a promise ring, not an engagement ring. Then Alexis confronts
(35:17):
Emily about talking shit about John on to teas in
a pod, and Emily said she knows he treated Shannon poorly,
and then Alexis asked Emily if she trust a drunk
woman's opinion. Emily questions why she's defending him after only
dating him for a month. M how do you feel
about promise rings?
Speaker 3 (35:37):
First of all, we're adults, you know, and I don't
even think young people do promise rings anymore. A promise
ring is kind of like I promise to never marry you.
That's how I see you, but also marry you.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
Remember when we were like in high school and we
would get those rings that it meant like you weren't
going to have sex until like they well, like I
think I got one, Like it's like a chastity ring.
I forget what the called, but they give it to you.
It's like a promise ring and you put it on.
I think mine was like a knockoff David Yeerman and
(36:09):
it met like this, we're together and then when we're
ready to have sex, we're gonna do it. But like
y'all already had sex, what do y'all promise?
Speaker 3 (36:16):
And four times a day? So it's like, so no,
I think it's silly. I think it's more for like
publicity and just I just think it's stupid, honestly, between
you and I, it's like, you know what, it's save
the money and get me like a tennis bracelet or
something else, like it could be something else at symbolic.
A piece of jewelry does not have to be a ring.
You could they could be like the people on Love
(36:38):
Is Blind?
Speaker 2 (36:39):
And have you seen these little tappers Whenever you're thinking
about the person that you're with, you tap it and
that lights up their arm. I actually google that be
good for my kids, Just give my little tap, little
bus like. But I feel like Alexis is going into
this season and if she does continue to bring up
to teas in a pod, I'm happy for her to
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get an orange thank you.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
So I was gonna say, maybe that's like what she wants. Well,
I feel like a lot of times when the women
come in as friends and it's the first season, they
really fight for their position.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
Especially after being a housewife.
Speaker 3 (37:16):
Exactly that is true in her case. I forgot that
she was a housewife, and you know, after so many years,
it's kind of like she's coming back and she needs
to prove herself and there's nothing that's going to stop her,
so there's no consequences. So that's that's what it looks
like she's doing. And then obviously she has John, which
is Shannon's ex boyfriend.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
But then Shannon meets with her lawyer, Mike. Shannon was
sentenced to three years of probation. Shan says she's a
hypocrite for always talking about how dumb it is to
get a dui. Then tam and her daughter go to
(37:57):
get tattoos. Sophia has not been on show for eighteen years, yes,
because her father would not allow her to film, and
so it's pretty exciting to see her on And like,
I know Sophia obviously in real life, and she is
like the perfect mix of just like Tamra's spunk, but
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also just like having that she's just cool, like I'm
not naturally cool, Like she is just cool. But Tama
wants one one one on her wrist. And then Tamma
gets emotional every time she sees one one one because
she was her other daughter, Sydney would come home. I
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love seeing tam get to interact with her kids because
I think so often on the show because the kids
weren't allowed to film.
Speaker 3 (38:48):
We didn't get to.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
See that side, so I do appreciate that.
Speaker 3 (38:53):
Yeah, that was really touching. I love that. No, I
don't have any senses.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
You classy, I got a lot. And then on the
way to Heather's lunch, we meet the new housewife, Katie,
who is a friend of Gina's. She was introduced to
Gina Buyston and Katie loves Gina because she has a
zest for life and Gina loves Katie because she's her
age thirty nine.
Speaker 3 (39:18):
I feel like that's the number and the requirement to
be a housewife, to be thirty nine. Yeah, I'll like
the new all the new beans that are coming in
that's like their age gruth.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
Well, and then Gina wants to live in her youth
a little bit longer. Then I started to like ask
the question, like do we think a thirty nine year
old and a fifty nine year old can be friends?
Speaker 3 (39:40):
I think they can for sure, because I have a
lot of thirty something year old friends and forty something.
For me, age is just a number either of It's
just like a friendship with a girl or even like
with men. You know, it depends obviously the amount in
this case we're talking about two girls, and you know,
thirty nine and fifty nine is a twenty year difference.
But I feel like if you have a mom, you
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can relate to her, like there's some similarities like that
their mom might have. I think it's actually smart because
the fifte nine year old woman has so much wisdom
and insight, and it's great to have an older friend,
you know, the woman that's thirty nine, and then the
fifty nine year old. He is a thirty nine year
old still full of that energy and kind of like
you live through them and you want to keep up.
You know, Younger people, you know, have more energy and
(40:24):
live their life a little differently. I mean, granted, there's
a lot of thirty nine year olds.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
Or I'd say I'm forty three, and I'm not full
of energy and zest for life, just like everybody I am.
Speaker 3 (40:33):
And that's why I like young people and I attract
young people because I can identify like I'm more. Really
I relate more to younger people, but then I also
have older friends that I relate to them different things
in like you know, career and life experiences, our children,
you know, like our marriages. I mean so much more,
you know, I feel again, that age is just a number.
There's a lot of thirty nine year old women that
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are like older old souls, and there's a lot of
fifteenine year old women that are still super mature that
you can't even have a conversation with.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
So I think also it depends where you are in
your life. Like I think it is hard. Like if
I had a newborn baby right now, and I had
a friend and her youngest child is twenty five, and
we're trying to spend days together, that is hard, Like
do you want to come over and hang out with
me and my baby? Like? There are moments in time
that it's hard. But I think there's situational friendships that
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you come in and you get closer through time, And
so I think that is fine. But how do we
to really get down to it? What do we think
Katie's going to be like as a housewife?
Speaker 3 (41:30):
You know, I really can't tell by the first By
her first season, first episode, you know, I felt like
her story was a little bit lost. Honestly, I don't
really remember her too much because I think that shade
I wasn't being shady. I'm sorry, I'm just being honest.
Speaker 2 (41:47):
For me.
Speaker 3 (41:47):
For some people shadiness. For me, it's honesty. But I'm
just saying I really don't remember her because I don't think.
Speaker 2 (41:54):
She's going to be as a housewife. I don't really
remember her, to.
Speaker 3 (41:56):
Be honest, I don't And it's not shady, just saying
the truth because I felt like I was so more
absorbed with like Shannon's story and Gina and even Tamra,
I mean, all the other things that we've been talking about,
and Emily and and Alexis. I feel like for me
it was more of that.
Speaker 2 (42:16):
So do you think they needed to bring in somebody
new or they could have just left it without It's
too soon to tell.
Speaker 3 (42:23):
You can ask me that after a couple of more episodes,
because so far, like I said, I don't really remember her,
so I don't know how much more involvement she's gonna have.
You know, I always think it's good to bring in
new people into the group and throw them in the
mix and see, you know, because sometimes you know you
need it, and if they don't work out, you just
start phasing them out, and you know the viewers will
see that too, But it's too soon to tell.
Speaker 2 (42:45):
Then we get to Heathery's throwing a party at the
Balbeoba Club. Gina tells Shannon she feels uncomfortable for her,
and she says she's grateful she's out of the relationship
with John. And then they get there. Everybody there's a
lot of activities. I gotta be honest, I don't love
a party with a ton of activities. Like I like
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a couple so I can dodge out of conversations. I
don't want to have like, oh, it's my turn for
bracelet making, but I don't need like eighty seven, Like
I just need a good drink and like one.
Speaker 3 (43:17):
Good human to talk to, like this kind of parties either.
Speaker 2 (43:20):
Yeah, But then Shannon arrives and all the girls are like,
I think Shannon looks great. Things are good. But then
all the women I start to wonder where everybody else
is at the party because all of the women are
like at this one window ram together watching the conversation
between Shannon and Alexis.
Speaker 3 (43:39):
I just see that it's funny, and they're all like
trying to like look and see and then.
Speaker 2 (43:43):
They're like yelling at Emily. They're like, Emily, you're spread eagle.
Everybody gets here, but how did you feel? Because I
really am trying to come into this and not be biased.
What were your thoughts on how Alexis and Shannon both
handled themselves in this conversation.
Speaker 3 (44:06):
I mean, I honestly thought that they could have taken
different directions. I thought Shannon was being honest and she
was just you know, opening up to Alexis, and you know,
Alexis was a little rude. I mean, don't you think.
I mean, I like Alexis, but I'm just saying, like
it was just weird the conversation that they've had, you know,
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first episode.
Speaker 2 (44:30):
Like, I mean, not to piss you off, but if
if you and Todd don't rekindle after this club Sandwich
tag and a year down the road I end up
with Todd, I would handle it with a little bit more.
Speaker 3 (44:46):
That's not happening. Why don't we put somebody else as
an example? Because I'm Cuban and I'm very feisty, so
we're not going to do that.
Speaker 2 (44:53):
Listen, I'm just saying, hypothetically speaking, I would hand.
Speaker 3 (44:58):
Guys that they're not friends. So Alexis and when she
meets John, oh yeah, we we that's different.
Speaker 2 (45:03):
We are friends, Okay, So it has to be somebody
else that I don't know.
Speaker 3 (45:06):
But regardless, John, don't you think that I never asked
her that. So she told me that when she met
John at the bar she I forgot that she had
been part of the OC cast for many years. So
she's probably still watching, and she's seen John in Shannon's life.
Speaker 2 (45:21):
I mean she I think she told us she didn't watch,
but I mean I feel like everybody says that.
Speaker 3 (45:26):
Well, but even the thing now, Teddy's even if you
don't watch these shows, you watch social media and you
follow these bloggers and the barber world and whatnot. So
at some point she had to see John and the
mess that Shannon's been in also with him. So so
I don't know that I believe it or not. I
feel like she knew who he was, and he probably
knew who she was as well, because if he likes
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all this world, that's why he's with her. Because Amanda
wants nothing to do with this, wouldn't be going on
with Alexus, no.
Speaker 2 (45:54):
But also I think maybe where Shannon might have mucked
this up a little bit, and this is coming at Shannon.
This is just I wish she would have led with
John and then brought up Jim Bellino later. But I
think the fact that she was emotional explaining the lawsuit
with Jim Bellino put Alexis on the defense, right, I
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wasn't a part of this lawsuit, like blah blah blah.
And then also I Gotana.
Speaker 3 (46:20):
Was saying that she was. She's like, I saw your
signature on the papers and you were an Alexis saying
I wasn't because it was after my divorce with John.
Speaker 2 (46:28):
So I think the fact that that happened, I don't know,
especially because we're not talking about like a twenty thousand
dollars lawsuit. We're talking about a three hundred thousand and
a five hundred thousand dollars lawsuit. Like these women Tamra
and Shannon allegedly lost a lot of money in this
lawsuit for something they went on a freaking live podcast.
(46:51):
I mean, it's crazy. But then I just felt like
the conversation was off to the races and there was
gonna be no kindness from Alexis to Shannon after that.
Mm hmmm, because she was on the defense, like, I
didn't do it, I know.
Speaker 3 (47:06):
But I mean, can you blame Shannon for saying that?
I would have said that too, like our problem is
not only because of John. Our problem is also because
your ex husband, you know, suit us. So I mean
I feel like Shannon had a lot of things to say.
I mean, of course it was to Alexis. Maybe she
would have sent him to Alexis ex husband if you
would have been there, But because you know she's the
ex wife, she was the one that got it. And
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again I don't know that she had anything to do
with it. I want to believe Alexis. Alexis says I
had nothing to do with it. It was after he
and I had divorced, and it is what it is.
You know, sometimes your husband's make decisions without counting with you,
And I don't know that she supported that back in
the day. I don't know that.
Speaker 2 (47:43):
I don't know either.
Speaker 3 (47:44):
But a lot a lot of things going on like
against this woman. I mean first her ex husband Susan,
and then now her ex boyfriend is dating her. I mean,
it's a lot.
Speaker 2 (47:53):
With a promise friend. But one thing that I will
say in closing out this episode is, no matter what
side you're on, Shannon going straight up to Alexis episode
one for a direct chat is giving the fans everything
that they want like she could have completely avoided that
conversation episode in.
Speaker 3 (48:13):
My show, they would have avoided it, right, But in
your show, she went by for it.
Speaker 2 (48:18):
Like she went right in. And I was like, and
so I do think we're going to see a lot
of highs and lows. I think we're gonna see the
women having fun. I am really excited for the season.
But I think, as the kids would say, episode one
was giving. It was yes, well, thank you so much
(48:43):
for joining me, and now you're gonna have to go
deeper down the rabbit hole of the past of all
of these women because you are so good at this
and I need you to have this history.
Speaker 3 (48:53):
I want to be Yeah, sorry, I just like watched
it last night and with the time difference and stuff,
but I am gonna get more involved. I'm gonna watch everything.
Speaker 2 (49:00):
So good, are you kidding? I was? That was not
a knock. That was like you are so good.
Speaker 3 (49:05):
Good, thank you. I mean, I think it's you know,
I feel like they're going to have a great season.
That's what I'm trying to say. It was so much
for like episode one, there were so many like you know,
stories going on, and like real life shit and that's why. Like,
that's what I'm saying. These are all like real life ships,
personal things that really affect you on your life.
Speaker 2 (49:23):
It didn't feel fake at all. It didn't feel like bullshit.
It felt like this is real shit hitting the fan
for all of these women. Correct, Yeah, oh see, you're
back and we appreciate you and thank you so much
for joining.
Speaker 3 (49:36):
Thank you, Seddie,