August 15, 2025 • 45 mins
The first season consists of civilians and celebrities… Do we prefer this dynamic to an all celeb cast?
Plus, are Tam and Dolores butt hurt that Bravo players are always targeted?! What does Wells think?
And, there’s a certain player that’s getting on our nerves. Will the traitors turn on each other immediately?
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
All right, everyone, welcome into by Order of the Faithfuls.
I'm wells Adams, I'm alongside.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Tamba Judge and Dolores Catana.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Now we're trying to figure out what we are going
to refer to you listeners as, and we were batting
around the idea of calling the listeners faithfuls? Are we
good with that?
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Are faithfuls?
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Are faithfuls?
Speaker 4 (00:25):
Our faithfuls? Our faithfuls part of the faithful club? But
then does that exclude the trader people? Because you know,
there's a lot of people that sleep with cloaks on
and go food shopping with cloaks on.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
So why don't we get some voting.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
In the inner circle the fellow turrets, the silent majority.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Let's clip this right here and then ask everyone on
Instagram at by Order of the Faithfuls what you guys
would like to be called so we can refer to
you because this show is for you. So dm us
what you guys want to be called? And the biggest
I guess vote getter wins. Yes.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
I love the interactive This is what this game is
all about, right exactly. It's inclusive, it's interactive, and that's
why we all love it. So much. So, yeah, write
in let us know what you'd like to be called
by us.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Yeah, now go. Turning on season one, I was like,
I suddenly forgot everything that happened. It seems like it
was so long ago, and I actually forgot the fact
that there were celebrities and civilians.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
You think they should do that again?
Speaker 3 (01:33):
I know, let's talk about that.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
What do you think? Well?
Speaker 1 (01:35):
I loved it, by the way, Like, I think it's
such an interesting wrinkle. The other thing that I think
makes it really compelling is this is going to come
across as elitist, but it's just how I felt when
I was on the show that the celebrities quote unquote
didn't care so much about the money, But when you
have civilians in there, I think that the money changes
(01:59):
a lot of things with them. Case in point, at
the end of the season that Doris and I were on,
you guys all kind of split it where I think
if you had people who really wanted more money, they
would have been more cutthroat at the end. So I
do think it could make for more compelling television. But
there is one issue with casting people who aren't normally
(02:20):
on TV, right, And what's that?
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Well, it's because they don't know the ins and outs
of TV. And you know, it's hard to if you
ever had a friend on housewives and you're like, they're
talking about their neighbor's sisters rather down the street. Nobody cares,
Nobody cares. Get to the point, let's talk about things
that matter that are going to make it on TV.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
I think it's also because they don't have a.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Following, but that too, that plays for when it airs.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Having said that, but.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
The build up of before it ears because they mentioned
the cast. But I can debunk that theory wells a
bit because you know, Ivor may have been a royal
and but you know, Gabby was saving the money to
get married, and Dylan's driving it around in a broken
(03:11):
down van, and he wanted to take his girlfriend out
to a nice dinner, and he was living in like.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Every time I turn on the ground, there he is
with his shirt off, or he's button it up, or wait,
I don't even think he's in some foreign country, yeah,
or him and his brother golfing together with their shirts off.
I'm like, who's the bigger star right now?
Speaker 4 (03:31):
But wait, my assistant sends me that clip and goes
I don't know what to do with this information.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Of which was golf golfing. I just look at it
and smile.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
That's all you want. I sent it to my daughter.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
I said it to him my girlfriend.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Was he in anything like was he well known? I
didn't know who he was until he was on the show.
Was he ever in any kind of TV shows or
anything else other.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Than No Better?
Speaker 2 (03:56):
But yeah he did.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
He had his own show with his brother. He was
he's an outdoorsman.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
He did all that Netflix like yeah, yeah, documentary down to.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
The travel show that he did with his brother. He
was kind of in it, but it turned into it
was just really about Zach. So he was just I
think a producer and a director for the show. So
he's a little bit behind the scenes, but he's not like,
you know, being in front of a camera is nothing
new to Dylan.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
I don't think, no, no, but he's he's just a
regular guy. Like Dylan's just a regular guy and really
needed that money. But he is just a good guy,
you know.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Yeah, and by the way, ever needs the money too.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
The money doesn't trickle down all the way from the Royals.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
And it's not like he's no matter if you have
money or not. Everybody wants the money, but I like,
I agree with well, it's like you're more hungry if
you really really need it.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Oh, it always hits different.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
But Paul was just saying, and I was just printing
out my notes that you guys sent me, and he goes, oh,
that's when the regular people were in as well, And
he goes, I kind of like.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
That, So what do you what do you think changed?
Because there is uh, have you guys watched the other
Trader shows.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
There's like the UK.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
And maybe in Australia. I watched a little bit before
I joined the cast, just because I want to see
what's going on.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Well, we had to.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Yeah, it was kind of hard to keep interest in it.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
There.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
I mean there is something to be said about, you know,
reality TV stars going on TV and making good television.
And I think at the end of the day, I
do think you want to have drama and like compelling storytelling.
That's another thing that I think a lot of people
don't realize is like a little bit of a skill
is sitting in the interview room and being a good
(05:50):
narrator for the show. And I think if you're not
used to that it would be professional. Yeah, it would
make for boring television. But I wonder listen and I
have no idea. I guess we can talk to the
production company. I wonder why they made the shift from
having celebrities and civilians to just having celebrities, And I
wonder if it was just more of like it became
much more popular in the United States, which that meant
(06:13):
their budget got a little bit bigger, which meant they
could pay for more celebrities to be there. And then
they realized that the TV making aspect of it was
much easier when you have people who are just like,
really good at it.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
True.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Well, I agree, yeah, that I agree with.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Nobody had any idea that there were guinea pigs for
what was about to be one of the biggest reality
shows in the world right now.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
That's well, you know, I'd like for our listeners to
also write in and ask them how they feel about
the mix of the celebrity and non celebrity people joining,
or do they like a full celebrity cast. I'm curious
about how they feel about that.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
I don't think i'd mind non celebrity I just think
that they really need to vet them really well. So
that they're like.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
There's a very outgoing in this world.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Like Christian he feary, out going, annoying.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
The one thing that I think that civilians have over
celebrities is they can be anyone they want to be.
And in this game where you're just basically lying the
entire time, it would be so easy to be someone
that you're not really Like Tom Sandoval on our season,
like couldn't help but be who he was, and everyone
(07:28):
had preconceived notions of who he was going into this thing.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
And he lived up to himself.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Yeah, how do you really feel about him? Doors? It
would be nice to be like completely ambiguous, like not
well known by everyone, and be like, I'm going to
pretend to be something that I'm not and see if
that works, you know, Like I think that it would
have been it would have been helpful.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
To Unlike Rachel, who said that she can use her
fandom of Big Brother of her your advantage, calling herself
an icon.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Ad icon, let me tell you she would last three
seconds in the housewife world.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
Rachel, you would be alive had you spoke like that
about yourself. I mean, tamra I And the next time
you fail, I want you to walk in and say
I'm an icon. I'm gonna call you a queen Crane
call me the queen because I'm an icon.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Oh god, well, there was. There was some fantastic civilians
that were cast, and you mentioned it a second ago.
But Christian, I think, was the one who really stuck
out to me as being someone who is very, very
good at being on camera.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
I felt, yeah, I mean, he was quirky, he was funny,
he was annoying, like he crossed all those boxes. Man,
I thought that I'm surprised he lasts as long as
he did, and somebody like, I mean, if I was
a trader, I'd be like, why can't I just murder him?
Speaker 4 (08:59):
Yeah? I know, I he was all those things, certainly
all those things, and he was you would have think
he was been doing this a long time.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
I know, let's get to the round table. Everyone gathers
around the table, put the blindfolds on. Do you guys
remember that moment? I mean, how could you not in
your own experience.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
I just want to say that it was the best
experience of my entire fifty four years here, and it
was It's hard to watch because I miss it so much,
so it just I can't explain the feeling that I
have from from it because I don't have the words.
But to watch them going to the round table, and
(09:41):
I'll never forget. The funny thing is it's very serious.
You're walking to the round table, and as soon as
we pass the big pile of money, Danielle falls right
on our face. Like it wasn't like a trip, it
was like and it was so because that room echoes.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
And it was like, oh my god, oh so on
our our season. I don't know if they showed it,
but Banana's grabbed some of the gold and he took
and took it. Yeah, and literally like he got a spanking,
Like Alan's like, don't you ever do that again?
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Well, do you remember when Danielle fell?
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Yes? And I felt so embarrassed. I was, I was,
I felt so bad for her, you know, Oh god.
But I don't think they didn't.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
Show more embarrassing moments that they didn't show it though, right,
they didn't.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
I don't remember seeing that, so they must not have
showed it, but do they do. Like what people don't
know is like as soon as you get in there
and you're all sitting around, they drop cameras from the ceiling,
things like open up and cameras come out. There's so
there's like I feel like there's one hundred cameras in there.
Then they start playing that song that they don't even
air on TV. They just said hanging what's it called
(10:59):
a tree, which is so freaking creepy.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Couldn't be a more perfect song.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
And it's dead quiet in there, and they're playing the
song and everybody's in their head and they got that
Oh it's very very eerie.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
I'm excited, thinking my soul is excited talking about it.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Out of the middle of the table. The middle of
the table rises up, and when it rises up, it
reveals all these robot cameras pelcos that are all like
looking at all of us, and I just remember, you know,
everyone gets so quiet. You put that that blindfold on,
(11:38):
and it's so dead quiet that I could just hear
my heart beating, like going crazy.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
Wait, can we talk about one second? Well, yeah, when
that those cameras come up and Tom Sandoval gets into character.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
In three point two seconds. Oh yeah, with the one
eye up.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
Krishelle wanted a projectile vomit all over him, and.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
That's something a civilian wouldn't do.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Right. You don't know, but yeah, no, he did live
up to good TV making.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
I will say that he did, like you know what
he it was almost he redeemed himself to a lot
of people being a Putts because it was like funny,
you know.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
But but it didn't last like them people.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
So Puts is better than a cheater. So it's one
step up from a cheater.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
Yeah, listen, I look at Arianna now, and that bitch
is doing good.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
I know she's like, it's the best thing you ever
did was cheating on?
Speaker 4 (12:37):
Anybody ever made out so well from being cheated on?
Speaker 2 (12:41):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
In the history.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Speaking of Putts's Ryan Lochtey, I take it you don't
like him. No, I think he's hilarious, I you know,
I mean I remember him, yeah, and I remember rooting
for him in the Olympics too. But I do because
I'm kind of on the other side of making reality
(13:04):
TVs TV shows at this point, and sometimes I do
feel very bad about someone's edit that they get that
like I'm not sure if it's like it seems like
a little below the belt and them making fun of
Ryan just kind of walking around like a puts in
an idiot and like playing that.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
Yeah, I know, but he's a big built guy. He
had a suit on and you know, he just kind
of didn't fit in that much.
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There.
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Speaker 1 (14:29):
You know, when Alan's walking around the turret, none of
us were tapped on the shoulder.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
You mean, when he's walking around the rounds Heter.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Sorry, no, not me.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
The three of us know, that's why we're faithfuls here.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
So this is what I think is interesting when I
watched it back, is if I were to have been
touched on the shoulder, how would I have responded in
that moment? Because you want to be quiet? But the
Christian guy like has this big smile on his face,
which was like, I was like, ooh, that's so what
a great shot that would be. If I was to
produce user and you know video village, I wonder what
would you guys do if you were touched on the shoulder?
(15:04):
Would you react at all? Or just stay as quiet
as possible?
Speaker 3 (15:08):
I think stay as quiet as possible.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
Yeah, you can't really say what you do in that moment, right.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
Maybe a smark But he was like kind of over
the top, like cook, you know, and then who was
it that?
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Just?
Speaker 4 (15:21):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (15:22):
Suri?
Speaker 2 (15:23):
Suri?
Speaker 4 (15:23):
She was like nothing, like No, I would be like her,
I think because I'm not very demonstrative in my you know,
I don't get worked up and I don't usually like
you know, my pulse never changes no matter what who
I'm fighting or who I'm arguing with, So I can
kind of think that I'd be more stoic than not,
but I wouldn't be cornball about it and like getting
(15:46):
all excited.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
No, but it fits his personality. He's kind of cornball.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
No, So you think about it and you're like, yeah, no,
I mean, but then when you're not touched, when you're
not hit on the shoulder, I'm offended.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
I was like, I'm not good enough.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
I'm not good enough.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
But then like he's walking around, that's a lot.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
Well, how long is it with him walking around?
Speaker 2 (16:10):
A long time?
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Right, so much longer in reality than it is on TV,
because I think they're trying to confuse us. And I
mean he probably walked around twenty five times. I feel like, yeah,
it was a lot.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
And so what were your thoughts on who he chose?
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Well, clearly clearly he chose.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Well, yeah, I think he did. It's you know, Cody, Christian,
and Surrey are the three that he danced.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
It's very funny that Cody is annoyed by Christian and
then has to go and see him the turret and
he's like.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
That's even worse.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
First of all, getting the big task of becoming a
trader and then going in there and seeing the one
person you actually couldn't stand that you met.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
It's kind of a downer right now.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
You guys, refresh my memory. You can't. The Traders can't
go against each other in the very beginning, right.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
They can't say you're trader. They can elude.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
But at one point on the show, like a trader
can get rid of another Trader, right they do.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Boston Rob went fully in on another Trader.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Bob the drag Queen.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
So yeah, in my so, they can banish, not murder,
but they can banish their own kind. But at the
very beginning of the show, can they isn't there like
you have to be so many episodes in before they
can start doing that shit.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
I ever heard that?
Speaker 1 (17:33):
No, I did. Like Kate from Below Deck, who's someone
who's kind of like now omni present on this show,
believes that people have preconceived notions of her and apparently
her great grandfather is a cousin of Sherlock Holmes, which
I'm not sure.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Great great grand I'm sure.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
I'm not sure if any of those things are true,
But I love that she said.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
I didn't believe her because ever since I uh, ever
since I was on the Traders.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
I believe no one.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
Anymore, just so you know. So.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
By the way, although Kate is my very.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
Dear friend and I love her dearly, I'm going to
DM her and ascri if that was true. But it's not,
I said Wire, but see another world like you, like
at another time, I would have before Traders, I would
have believed her.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
Really, I don't know. I think she just set up
for the show just I think so too.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
But everybody is clearly afraid of Cody because of him
winning Big Brother. I've never been a big brother. I
never watched the show. Teddy was on it for like
a hot second, so I watched like two episodes. Tell
me she was on and I just after she was gone.
I never watched it, So I don't know anything really
about that show.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
I'm the same way, you know what, when it comes
to like who the players are starting to like create
theories about it. It's interesting that a handful of people
suspect AyL Dean because she looked jittery and anxious after
the track, which is such a hard thing. Like, I
don't think anyone knows how they would react in that situation.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
Everybody talks a lot of shit while they're watching it, like,
how could you not know? How could? Like my family
was yelling at me when I came home. It was
a whole thing. And I mean after they watched it,
they were like, my kids were like embarrassed of me.
I'm like, what did you want? Made another land? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (19:22):
I know you're wrong about everything, but you made it
all the way to that.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
I got the first in the Last Trader write but listen,
I'll take it.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
I think it's the hardest part of the game is
you have to go off stupid things, especially in the beginning,
because you believe nothing legit to like go off of.
It's like on my season, it was somebody was breathing loud.
Somebody was, you know, chittering.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
I remember that, like you were breathing. Then he's like,
but I have asthma, Like he didn't know what to
say because he was being accused. Then she said, see,
you lied about that. You don't have asthma.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
You just try to find anything and everything I know.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
So if you're lied about that, then you're lying about everything, right,
So mm.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Hmm my big theory going into it. It didn't work, obviously,
But what I was trying to do is I was
trying to eliminate people that I didn't think could be
traders and then have a pool of people that I
think would be.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
So I'm really smart and.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
I was trying to do it. Like, if I was
producing this show, you know, I like Tom Sandoval is
a good example. I said, if I'm producing this show,
there is nothing more uninteresting than making America's biggest villain
a villain again. So I'm not making him a trader.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Yeah, I thought the same thing.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
Well, he said it. He's like, I would not have
signed up for this show if I was. He goes,
look at me, Do I need to be a trader
right now? I'm the most hated man in America. The
New York Times actually did a article on it.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
Yeah, poor guy.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
But there were other people like like I in from
our season. I was like, I just don't know. Unless
she's the best actor in the world, she didn't really
kind of under even understand what was going on in
the game. I was like, there's no way they're making
you a trader. Also, like you seem like someone who's me,
Like I need I need my beauty sleep and so
I can't stay up in this turret for too long.
(21:06):
So that's what I was trying to do. It when
when I got out of you know, out that makes
sense the roundtable, and I was wondering what you what
You guys were trying to pinpoint and figure out who
the traders were so early on in the show.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
So I couldn't.
Speaker 4 (21:23):
I I was what I was trying to pinpoint was
getting what other people were thinking because I was still
very new to the show.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
The truth of the matter is I watched a.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
Bit of the first season when it first came out,
and once Resid got murdered, I lost interest because he's
my friend.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
So I'm like, oh, I don't feel like And then
I got.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
That was episode one. I know you watched one episode, yeah, and.
Speaker 4 (21:51):
Then you would and play and then I and then
I just was like, but no, But then I binged it.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Before I got there.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
Oh gotcha.
Speaker 4 (21:57):
Why did you watch it as a whole all the time?
Speaker 3 (22:00):
Yeah, I watched. I tried to watch the Australian one.
I tried to watch.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
Oh, I'm saying before you were asked to be on
the show, was it something you tuned in?
Speaker 3 (22:07):
And yeah, I did, because Brandy was on a new
Brandy a new Kate and yeah, but obviously you watch
it again closely, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
So I was feeling my way through from since the
time I got there, and I was kind of like
going off everybody's opinion but making my own.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
Yeah. For me, it was like the people that I
did know, like the housewives, are they acting different? Are
they not talking about the show? Are they you know?
And then other people like there's certain people that were
accusing people of being traded. You're a trader, you're a trader,
and the other ones that would never even say the
word acute, they would never accuse anybody being a trader,
or the ones that are saying I'm not a trader,
(22:51):
I'm not a trader all the time. Like to me,
I was like, that's kind of like a red flag.
If you keep saying you're not a trader, in my mind,
you're a damn trader.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
That's why Tony got banished, right, Well, Tony got banished
because he was so dead set on saying I'm an investigator,
I came here to play, I would never be and
he just talked and talked and talked, and that's how
that's what made people very suspicious of him.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Yeah, well Rachel was suspicious of Cody because she knows
him outside the game. She can tell that she's a trader.
I'm surprised that there are people that can pinpoint things
so quickly, because I feel like she was good our season.
We had no clue. I didn't until I got banished
to dive the clue. But we had no clue. But
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good for Rachel for figuring that out.
Speaker 4 (23:45):
Good.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
I think Rachel knows somebody outside of the show you
can tell when they're acting different.
Speaker 4 (23:53):
That's true to me because then the Housewives, well you
know what it was.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
The Housewives got killed so quickly.
Speaker 4 (24:02):
You weren't able to tell if they were ever acting
different because they didn't get to be able.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
To act differently. Yeah, that sucks, It did sucks.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
And what did they do the first two seconds in
the tourret Let's go after the Bravo people and separate them.
What do you call it?
Speaker 2 (24:17):
The annoying one?
Speaker 4 (24:18):
He says. He's like, yeah, well they have a strong presence,
all three of them together.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
We got to break them up.
Speaker 4 (24:26):
And then Resa trying so hard at the mission is
essentially what got them killed.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
You know, I would love to know how they come
up with the missions and how they map out an
entire season of all these missions. I mean every year.
I'm so happy in ours. Nobody had to be buried alive.
That was a deal breaker for me. That was something
in negotiations. I said, I will not be buried alive
or put into any kind of little tiny box and
(24:55):
closed up. I just I'm super clastophobic. Can't do it.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
I'm taking you're taking my breath away.
Speaker 4 (24:59):
I don't care out the bugs, guys, I don't care
about that, but I absolutely what wells you care about
the bugs?
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Yeah? They asked me, you know, was is there one
thing that you won't do? I said, if there's spiders
or bugs put on me, I will leave. They're like,
what about twenty thousand dollars? And I said, I don't
care about twenty thousand dollars. Not do that. But I
could do. I could sit in the casket for three
hours so you and.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Get buried and have dirt put on you.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
Yeah, I think I'd be fine with that, but spider
on me would absolutely.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
I would have a heart. I would die in there.
You would just have to leave me there because I
would be dead and that has to tell you.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
I went to a very tiny, little small town dinery yesterday.
It was like a living room, and they sat us
in this little booth and as I was walking to
the booth, the.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
Walls started to close in on me. I was like,
I'm out.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
No, No, takes me back to my my kids are
little when I went on that Disneyland submarine ride, not
knowing that you're like squashed in this tight and it
goes underwater. I almost had a freaking panic attack inside
that something. Nope, ever since then, the bugs all day.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
I do have an interesting fact about the games or
the missions. I believe they're called right yeah is you know,
for at least for our season. The UK season had
just filmed right before we did, and they all had
almost the exact same games we had, so they are
just recreating those for the American audience. And the reason
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why I know that is because Dylan after the show
called me and he was like, I'm launching the UK
one and I'm seeing all the the you know, we
had to do that dragon boat race and all that
kind of stuff. He was like, I'm seeing they're doing
that right before we are. So they come up with
one idea and then they just I guess parse it
out for the other shows.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
Oh, I didn't know that. That's a good fact to know.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Okay, I didn't.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
I know that either very and I've seen like the missions,
they're stepping it up each season.
Speaker 4 (26:59):
Well they have to, and you know it's all in
the creativity, right. So I think that this season, call
it a hunch, but they're going to make more of
an incentive financially to a single person, like it's not
just for the whole group or whoever wins. I feel
like somehow they're going to have to make more of
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a financial incentive for this.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Why do you think that, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
So people try harder. I think you just have to
make people want something more. I tried hard. I tried
very hard. I never cared about winning a shield. I
never cared. I just cared because I was part of
a group and I wanted to do well for them.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
So I don't disagree with you. I think that goes
back to my point that I opened with, is like
I think that the more money needs to be involved
for celebrities to really really care, because I think I
noticed that from our season where people were like I
don't care, you know, like, I'm not going to break
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my back for this thing. I don't care that much.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
I never thought I was going to win, so I
didn't care. I'm still trying to still trying to figure
out why I was there.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
And what I was doing.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Yeah, you were trying to not die from from COVID.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
Yeah yeah, yeah, that was my biggest life.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
You were literally surviving.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
I was really.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
What did you guys think about the first mission? Did
you guys have to do anything like that? With fire?
Speaker 1 (28:40):
It was almost exactly the same. Well, we had to
row boats and we went to that exact lock. I
think we had to do something very similar. We were
all just in one big boat, but this one was
a couple of row boats and stuff. And it's funny
because you do have to delegate this decision making, right,
(29:01):
Like some people need to be rowing, some people need
to be like yelling out to row, some people need
to be steering. Some people like Kate just.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
In she just sat back.
Speaker 4 (29:11):
Well, you know, it's better to sit back than have
people that are actually no use of the actual mission
but refuse to not be involved.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
That was Kate you're talking about.
Speaker 4 (29:22):
Kate, No, she did that no, Kate just sat back
and said, let somebody better do it.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
But like, but if you get overly involved like Resa did,
and you're screaming and yelling and overreacting, you're dead.
Speaker 4 (29:39):
Once again. I say it was more for the team
because the housewives on our show, not that we're not
talking about our show. We're talking about here, but even
like with Reza, we cared about the team more than
the gamers cared.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
They care. Gamers played for themselves.
Speaker 4 (29:56):
We played Bravo plays for the team.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
So to think of out that before you guys try
to get rid of.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
Us again, four housewifes guide off the bat, off the
off the boat first thing to help the team knowing that,
well we didn't. I me and Durinda found out after
we got off that we figured out that we're probably
up for murder at night. But but you know, and
Ress was yelling at everybody because he wanted everybody to win,
as it like there was a camaraderie. But the gamers
(30:23):
they'll cut your throat. They don't care. As you see here, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
Looking for a weakness for sure. The one thing that
was interesting about this mission compared to the missions that
we had to do on our season was there was
no immunity shield available on this mission, so that was
must have been something that they implemented down the line,
because I don't remember there being like if you get
there first, your boat gets immunity tonight, right, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
I think that every season they're doing a little different
tweaks to each cast. Our season is when they started
adding the extra shields during the missions, which makes you
work even harder to make the game more fun.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Well, both teams who were able to finish the mission,
so the green team got twenty thousand dollars and a
blue team got ten thousand dollars. It came down to
the wire. How much do you believe that it really
was that close or that they kind of stretched it
out so they both could make the uh make the time.
Speaker 4 (31:20):
So listen, it's the first mission, right, so they kind
of give you a little leeway.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
They probably did help them.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
Out a little bit, oh for sure.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
And I'm not against that.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
You guys, remember like before they do the missions, like
off camera, there's like a whole team that comes out
like a safety team, and is that and they explain
the mission to you?
Speaker 2 (31:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (31:38):
Yeah, at any mission, did you're like what they just say,
I don't even know, always talking.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
About no I listened.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
I don't know. Maybe I don't listen. But there was
a few I'm like, I have I have no idea
what we're doing, but okay, let's just go No. See,
I was very tuned in.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
I listened. I'm always a rule follower too.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
It is also hard to listen to directions from someone
who's speaking with like a really thick Scottish accent.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
Right wait, I'm used to that.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
Oh yeah, you are definitely inso that with your boyfriend there.
Some of them I didn't quite I didn't completely understand.
Like I got the premise of it, but I didn't
completely understand. And I'm kind of that person that has
to do it to understand it. You just can't tell me.
And then I'm like, oh, I got it. So some
of them were like, I'm not sure what I'm doing.
(32:31):
I'm just gonna follow everybody. I just follow follow all somebody.
Speaker 4 (32:35):
What really surprised me is, see, we haven't gotten to
the shield yet. Was there there was a shield? Right?
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Who you really see with somebody?
Speaker 4 (32:45):
The character of somebody, And this is something I was
looking to see characters of people more.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Than I was trying to pick out a trader.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
I wanted to see who I wanted to get close
to by the way they treated other people when they
played the game.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Yeah, that was part of like.
Speaker 4 (33:02):
My strategy, if you want to call it a strategy
or whatever. I do that in life anyway. But that's
one of the things I brought to the game. Is like,
you just ft over the person you were to grab
that shield. It's a game right thing to do.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
But now I don't like you for it, you know what, Well,
that shows your character.
Speaker 4 (33:21):
That's what That's what my thing was. And if you
didn't get off that boat or you know, I remember,
I remember getting off the boat and I looked around
and I looked at the people who were of no
use on that boat. But we're not moving gamer gamer
gamer really And one thing I find with in the
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Traders is there's inherently a little bit of a selfish
component to them in their character.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
You have to if you're going to your contestants, remember
that out of the words of Dolores or what.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
It's also really easy to put a target on your
back if you are willing to sacrifice yourself like that, right,
Like it's such an easy argument to be like, well,
of course you are.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
Getting this shield. You're a trainer because you're.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
A trader, and it's not you're not up for you know,
murder tonight. And that's a very compelling argument, and it
was one that I fell into on our season and
I was completely wrong about. But I can see how
gamers are like, we can use this against them.
Speaker 4 (34:27):
Right, so watch out for that. Guys, play for that
shield because because then you can also put a target
on your back. Now, in my show, Sam never fought
for a shield. I never fought for a shield. Who
else Iver didn't care about getting a shield? And Danielle
(34:48):
gave me her shield in the church.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
Yeah, that was weird. I have to admit that was odd.
Speaker 4 (34:56):
She was like playing against herself. But I didn't want
it because I really didn't want it. But but she
made me very faithful to her for that, because if
somebody does something for me, then I act like, oh
my god, now I owe you my life in real life,
and Carolyn kept saying to me, don't worry, she'll be
(35:16):
She'll be here for breakfast. Really like, if she doesn't
show up to breakfast, I'll die.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
If she gave me her Shelt. Oh my god, I'll
never live with myself.
Speaker 4 (35:27):
That girl wanted this game so bad.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
Yeah. Well, everyone comes back after the mission, and some
people are considering that the trader should take the challenge
into consideration, which I think is very funny, but like,
I understand the thought process of like, well, you don't
want to kill people that are like really trying hard
and it can make make us the most amount of money.
But the traders aren't thinking that way at all.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
They could care less.
Speaker 4 (35:54):
Yeah, because every trader feels they're making it to the
end and winning because they have the advantage of being
a trade so they kind of can control who's staying
and who isn't right for the most part. So the
traders are just like, yeah, no, I don't care. I'm
gonna win anyway, and I'm taking all the money, and
in this case, the trader did.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
Once the Faithfuls go to sleep, the Traders meet in
the turret for their first murder. Cody's excited to team
up with Surrey, but he's not super pumped about Christian.
I can't imagine why.
Speaker 4 (36:28):
Wait, so you're telling me Christian is just a regular
guy who comes on who just gets on everybody's nerves.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
Is this basically pretty much?
Speaker 4 (36:39):
So?
Speaker 2 (36:39):
He would be good for reality TV.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
He's rated reality TV if you ask me, And at
this point he is a reality TV star. I wonder
if he is really this annoying or if he was
playing it up.
Speaker 4 (36:51):
I feel like he is.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
I'm going to call it a hunch.
Speaker 4 (36:54):
I'm going to go out on a limb here and
say there's a good chance he is in a good way. Though, Christian,
we're not shitting on you. In the first episode here, we.
Speaker 3 (37:02):
Don't you don't you feel like every season a star
is born. And I think Dylan definitely was a star.
Who came out that I mean, Phaedra came out a star.
She's got several shows after that. Who do you think
became the star of this season?
Speaker 1 (37:21):
Kate? I think, yeah, that's Kate.
Speaker 4 (37:23):
I can think there you go, She's she's done well.
She was so funny. They freaking loved her at Peacock.
They loved her on the show. They loved her wit
see the UK and Irish people and over there they
love that dry sense of humor. They call it taking
the piss out of you like they bust. It's inhearrate
(37:46):
like they bust your balls all day, like it's they
do it to each other. They don't get offended. Tients
get offended. Okay, well, in our world we get offended.
We don't like practical jokes. That's how you get killed.
We don't like making kind of we don't think it's
funny making fun of somebody else.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
But in that culture, they love that, and Kate fit
that so well.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
Well, why would they even consider murdering Kate, Reza and Brandy.
Speaker 4 (38:14):
Because they wanted to split the vote, They wanted to
split their bond and you.
Speaker 3 (38:19):
Know, because they were Bravo people.
Speaker 4 (38:21):
Yes, because they say, well, Kate says, Bravo people stick together.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (38:26):
I thought they were good shields for the traders to
hide behind because they were so vocal.
Speaker 4 (38:30):
I know, but don't they watch the housewife shows. They
stab each other in the path more than the show. True.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
Obviously, you guys are Bravo people, so you're going to
defend this. But I can understand the thought process of
there's power and numbers. These guys are going to stick together,
and we got to break up those numbers so we
can still control what's you know, the narrative of the show.
Speaker 4 (38:55):
I don't disagree with you.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
I understand it.
Speaker 4 (38:57):
I don't have to like it.
Speaker 1 (38:59):
Yeah, I can understand why you guys auld be like,
what's going on with what did we do to you?
Speaker 2 (39:02):
You know, Let's see.
Speaker 4 (39:04):
You know, this was the first season, episode one. They
were just getting their failures out.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
I wonder if.
Speaker 4 (39:10):
That that mindset changes as these seasons go on.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
It was still very strong in my season m hm.
Speaker 4 (39:21):
But let's see what next season brings if they're still
like that, because you know, they got to switch it up,
so we'll see.
Speaker 1 (39:30):
You know. It's interesting the way there are obviously multiple
ways that you can play this game as a trader.
You know, you could either be an agent of chaos
and have everyone kind of on their toes and really
really confused. You can be someone who is kind of
like slowly dropping breadcrumbs to lead people in a direction.
You can be someone who wants to pile on of
what everyone else is thinking that you know is wrong.
(39:53):
And I you know, I think it's tough because in
the beginning, I don't think you know exactly what you
want to do, and you also might have conflicting theosis
of how to go about it, right, Like, I bet
you that Cody's ideas of what he should be doing
as a trader is much different than Christians. Right.
Speaker 3 (40:09):
Well, I think the second one that you talked about
with the breadcrumbs, that's that's a trader mindset, very calculated,
trying to think ten steps ahead and direct people in
different you know, there are different directions us housewives. We're
just like, we're just here for the fight, man, That's
all we want to do. We don't care about setting
people up, like, let's come on, let's get grunts.
Speaker 4 (40:31):
You know, like in war in the Marines, the first
people they put out into the field are the grunts.
Speaker 2 (40:39):
So we're the housewives on this Traders are the grunts.
Speaker 4 (40:42):
And I have to say, though, if I had a
theory and I didn't have one, I think the best
thing is to not have one to take every day
because things change every day.
Speaker 2 (40:55):
Yeah, and you.
Speaker 4 (40:55):
Don't know who's you have to go into it as
you You can't like kind of like think about what
you're going to do because you don't know who's showing
up either. You really don't until you get there. And
everybody has to be handled differently. Now I know, how
to handle a gamer. And now I know who I
would listen to, who I would be.
Speaker 2 (41:18):
More suspicious of.
Speaker 4 (41:20):
You have to really be there to feel it.
Speaker 2 (41:23):
It's the feeling.
Speaker 4 (41:24):
It's the gut also that takes some type of role here.
Speaker 3 (41:30):
Yeah, I think in the beginning it's you're better off
listening more than talking, and the more you talk, the
more you're going to get yourself more eyes around you.
Like for example, on our show, Peppermint was a big
personality and she talked, talked talk, well, she slipped and
she said accidentally said she was a trader and she
got banished because of that, and it was just to
(41:51):
slip up. She just misspoke in her words. But at
the very beginning, nobody has nothing to do to go
off of that would just listen talk less. It's such
a balance, I know.
Speaker 1 (42:04):
But so what's so hard about that, And at least
for me was I'm so used to trying to be
entertaining on television shows making good television, and like being
quiet is it would annoy me and so I but
that's ultimately what got me got me in trouble. The
(42:25):
one thing that I do wish and I don't know
how this would be perceived, but I wish that I was.
I had like a notepad with me at all times
and was able to write down everything because I would
notice things and then I'm flighty and I would just
about it, and that I'd watch back and be like,
I noticed that, but I don't didn't remember it least
(42:46):
you remember.
Speaker 3 (42:47):
Did you go back each night and I know it's
late by the time you get back, you know, to
your room. Did you write things down? Did you take notes?
Speaker 1 (42:53):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (42:55):
Never, I didn't.
Speaker 4 (42:57):
I did in the very end, when and I had
had enough of Tom Sandibal, and I wrote down all
the points on how I was going to go to breakfast.
I literally took my book out and I wrote down
the points I was going to make for everybody to
turn on Sandabal.
Speaker 2 (43:13):
I get to breakfast, I'm ready to go.
Speaker 4 (43:16):
I say everything I had to say, and he gets
murdered the night before.
Speaker 2 (43:22):
That's ahile show up.
Speaker 4 (43:24):
I was like, and I had everybody on board. Everybody
was like, he's going tonight, He's going to I'm like, yes, yes,
it and then.
Speaker 2 (43:30):
I'm like, you gotta be kidding me. I didn't even
get a chance.
Speaker 3 (43:34):
To do about my moment. My moment my moment.
Speaker 4 (43:37):
It was my moment and they took it away from me,
those damage readers.
Speaker 3 (43:42):
Oh my gosh. Well it was a great first episode.
Speaker 1 (43:46):
Yes, I'm excited to watch episode two because you know,
the first episode of these shows really is you're you're
kind of just introducing everyone to everybody and like kind
of setting the stage, and not a whole lot really happened,
even though it's funny because that first episode takes the
most amount of time to film. But now that we're
getting a second episode and things are gonna start getting
(44:08):
dramatic and more fun, I am excited for next week's episode,
for sure.
Speaker 4 (44:14):
I'm very excited and I can't wait to hear from Well,
we don't have a name for you guys yet, so
reach out to us and tell us what you think.
We have two questions for you to think about. What
you'd like to be called. We want to call you Faithfuls,
but it's going.
Speaker 2 (44:29):
To be your call. And the other thing is do you.
Speaker 4 (44:33):
Like the mix of celebrities and non celebrities or do
you like celebrities across the board? So those are two
things we want to hear from you about. And we
are so looking forward and so excited about this.
Speaker 1 (44:43):
If you guys want to follow us on Instagram, please
do a by Order of the Faithful, subscribe, review rate,
all that stuff. Thank you, guys so much for listening
to By Order of the Faithfuls. We'll be back next
week recapping episode two of season one USA of the Traders.
See you guys late,
All right, everyone, welcome into by Order of the Faithfuls.
I'm wells Adams, I'm alongside.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Tamba Judge and Dolores Catana.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Now we're trying to figure out what we are going
to refer to you listeners as, and we were batting
around the idea of calling the listeners faithfuls? Are we
good with that?
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Are faithfuls?
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Are faithfuls?
Speaker 4 (00:25):
Our faithfuls? Our faithfuls part of the faithful club? But
then does that exclude the trader people? Because you know,
there's a lot of people that sleep with cloaks on
and go food shopping with cloaks on.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
So why don't we get some voting.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
In the inner circle the fellow turrets, the silent majority.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Let's clip this right here and then ask everyone on
Instagram at by Order of the Faithfuls what you guys
would like to be called so we can refer to
you because this show is for you. So dm us
what you guys want to be called? And the biggest
I guess vote getter wins. Yes.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
I love the interactive This is what this game is
all about, right exactly. It's inclusive, it's interactive, and that's
why we all love it. So much. So, yeah, write
in let us know what you'd like to be called
by us.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Yeah, now go. Turning on season one, I was like,
I suddenly forgot everything that happened. It seems like it
was so long ago, and I actually forgot the fact
that there were celebrities and civilians.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
You think they should do that again?
Speaker 3 (01:33):
I know, let's talk about that.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
What do you think? Well?
Speaker 1 (01:35):
I loved it, by the way, Like, I think it's
such an interesting wrinkle. The other thing that I think
makes it really compelling is this is going to come
across as elitist, but it's just how I felt when
I was on the show that the celebrities quote unquote
didn't care so much about the money, But when you
have civilians in there, I think that the money changes
(01:59):
a lot of things with them. Case in point, at
the end of the season that Doris and I were on,
you guys all kind of split it where I think
if you had people who really wanted more money, they
would have been more cutthroat at the end. So I
do think it could make for more compelling television. But
there is one issue with casting people who aren't normally
(02:20):
on TV, right, And what's that?
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Well, it's because they don't know the ins and outs
of TV. And you know, it's hard to if you
ever had a friend on housewives and you're like, they're
talking about their neighbor's sisters rather down the street. Nobody cares,
Nobody cares. Get to the point, let's talk about things
that matter that are going to make it on TV.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
I think it's also because they don't have a.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Following, but that too, that plays for when it airs.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Having said that, but.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
The build up of before it ears because they mentioned
the cast. But I can debunk that theory wells a
bit because you know, Ivor may have been a royal
and but you know, Gabby was saving the money to
get married, and Dylan's driving it around in a broken
(03:11):
down van, and he wanted to take his girlfriend out
to a nice dinner, and he was living in like.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Every time I turn on the ground, there he is
with his shirt off, or he's button it up, or wait,
I don't even think he's in some foreign country, yeah,
or him and his brother golfing together with their shirts off.
I'm like, who's the bigger star right now?
Speaker 4 (03:31):
But wait, my assistant sends me that clip and goes
I don't know what to do with this information.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Of which was golf golfing. I just look at it
and smile.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
That's all you want. I sent it to my daughter.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
I said it to him my girlfriend.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Was he in anything like was he well known? I
didn't know who he was until he was on the show.
Was he ever in any kind of TV shows or
anything else other.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Than No Better?
Speaker 2 (03:56):
But yeah he did.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
He had his own show with his brother. He was
he's an outdoorsman.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
He did all that Netflix like yeah, yeah, documentary down to.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
The travel show that he did with his brother. He
was kind of in it, but it turned into it
was just really about Zach. So he was just I
think a producer and a director for the show. So
he's a little bit behind the scenes, but he's not like,
you know, being in front of a camera is nothing
new to Dylan.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
I don't think, no, no, but he's he's just a
regular guy. Like Dylan's just a regular guy and really
needed that money. But he is just a good guy,
you know.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Yeah, and by the way, ever needs the money too.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
The money doesn't trickle down all the way from the Royals.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
And it's not like he's no matter if you have
money or not. Everybody wants the money, but I like,
I agree with well, it's like you're more hungry if
you really really need it.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Oh, it always hits different.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
But Paul was just saying, and I was just printing
out my notes that you guys sent me, and he goes, oh,
that's when the regular people were in as well, And
he goes, I kind of like.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
That, So what do you what do you think changed?
Because there is uh, have you guys watched the other
Trader shows.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
There's like the UK.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
And maybe in Australia. I watched a little bit before
I joined the cast, just because I want to see
what's going on.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Well, we had to.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Yeah, it was kind of hard to keep interest in it.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
There.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
I mean there is something to be said about, you know,
reality TV stars going on TV and making good television.
And I think at the end of the day, I
do think you want to have drama and like compelling storytelling.
That's another thing that I think a lot of people
don't realize is like a little bit of a skill
is sitting in the interview room and being a good
(05:50):
narrator for the show. And I think if you're not
used to that it would be professional. Yeah, it would
make for boring television. But I wonder listen and I
have no idea. I guess we can talk to the
production company. I wonder why they made the shift from
having celebrities and civilians to just having celebrities, And I
wonder if it was just more of like it became
much more popular in the United States, which that meant
(06:13):
their budget got a little bit bigger, which meant they
could pay for more celebrities to be there. And then
they realized that the TV making aspect of it was
much easier when you have people who are just like,
really good at it.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
True.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Well, I agree, yeah, that I agree with.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Nobody had any idea that there were guinea pigs for
what was about to be one of the biggest reality
shows in the world right now.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
That's well, you know, I'd like for our listeners to
also write in and ask them how they feel about
the mix of the celebrity and non celebrity people joining,
or do they like a full celebrity cast. I'm curious
about how they feel about that.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
I don't think i'd mind non celebrity I just think
that they really need to vet them really well. So
that they're like.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
There's a very outgoing in this world.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Like Christian he feary, out going, annoying.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
The one thing that I think that civilians have over
celebrities is they can be anyone they want to be.
And in this game where you're just basically lying the
entire time, it would be so easy to be someone
that you're not really Like Tom Sandoval on our season,
like couldn't help but be who he was, and everyone
(07:28):
had preconceived notions of who he was going into this thing.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
And he lived up to himself.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Yeah, how do you really feel about him? Doors? It
would be nice to be like completely ambiguous, like not
well known by everyone, and be like, I'm going to
pretend to be something that I'm not and see if
that works, you know, Like I think that it would
have been it would have been helpful.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
To Unlike Rachel, who said that she can use her
fandom of Big Brother of her your advantage, calling herself
an icon.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Ad icon, let me tell you she would last three
seconds in the housewife world.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
Rachel, you would be alive had you spoke like that
about yourself. I mean, tamra I And the next time
you fail, I want you to walk in and say
I'm an icon. I'm gonna call you a queen Crane
call me the queen because I'm an icon.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Oh god, well, there was. There was some fantastic civilians
that were cast, and you mentioned it a second ago.
But Christian, I think, was the one who really stuck
out to me as being someone who is very, very
good at being on camera.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
I felt, yeah, I mean, he was quirky, he was funny,
he was annoying, like he crossed all those boxes. Man,
I thought that I'm surprised he lasts as long as
he did, and somebody like, I mean, if I was
a trader, I'd be like, why can't I just murder him?
Speaker 4 (08:59):
Yeah? I know, I he was all those things, certainly
all those things, and he was you would have think
he was been doing this a long time.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
I know, let's get to the round table. Everyone gathers
around the table, put the blindfolds on. Do you guys
remember that moment? I mean, how could you not in
your own experience.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
I just want to say that it was the best
experience of my entire fifty four years here, and it
was It's hard to watch because I miss it so much,
so it just I can't explain the feeling that I
have from from it because I don't have the words.
But to watch them going to the round table, and
(09:41):
I'll never forget. The funny thing is it's very serious.
You're walking to the round table, and as soon as
we pass the big pile of money, Danielle falls right
on our face. Like it wasn't like a trip, it
was like and it was so because that room echoes.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
And it was like, oh my god, oh so on
our our season. I don't know if they showed it,
but Banana's grabbed some of the gold and he took
and took it. Yeah, and literally like he got a spanking,
Like Alan's like, don't you ever do that again?
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Well, do you remember when Danielle fell?
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Yes? And I felt so embarrassed. I was, I was,
I felt so bad for her, you know, Oh god.
But I don't think they didn't.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
Show more embarrassing moments that they didn't show it though, right,
they didn't.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
I don't remember seeing that, so they must not have
showed it, but do they do. Like what people don't
know is like as soon as you get in there
and you're all sitting around, they drop cameras from the ceiling,
things like open up and cameras come out. There's so
there's like I feel like there's one hundred cameras in there.
Then they start playing that song that they don't even
air on TV. They just said hanging what's it called
(10:59):
a tree, which is so freaking creepy.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Couldn't be a more perfect song.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
And it's dead quiet in there, and they're playing the
song and everybody's in their head and they got that
Oh it's very very eerie.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
I'm excited, thinking my soul is excited talking about it.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Out of the middle of the table. The middle of
the table rises up, and when it rises up, it
reveals all these robot cameras pelcos that are all like
looking at all of us, and I just remember, you know,
everyone gets so quiet. You put that that blindfold on,
(11:38):
and it's so dead quiet that I could just hear
my heart beating, like going crazy.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
Wait, can we talk about one second? Well, yeah, when
that those cameras come up and Tom Sandoval gets into character.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
In three point two seconds. Oh yeah, with the one
eye up.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
Krishelle wanted a projectile vomit all over him, and.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
That's something a civilian wouldn't do.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Right. You don't know, but yeah, no, he did live
up to good TV making.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
I will say that he did, like you know what
he it was almost he redeemed himself to a lot
of people being a Putts because it was like funny,
you know.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
But but it didn't last like them people.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
So Puts is better than a cheater. So it's one
step up from a cheater.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
Yeah, listen, I look at Arianna now, and that bitch
is doing good.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
I know she's like, it's the best thing you ever
did was cheating on?
Speaker 4 (12:37):
Anybody ever made out so well from being cheated on?
Speaker 2 (12:41):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
In the history.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Speaking of Putts's Ryan Lochtey, I take it you don't
like him. No, I think he's hilarious, I you know,
I mean I remember him, yeah, and I remember rooting
for him in the Olympics too. But I do because
I'm kind of on the other side of making reality
(13:04):
TVs TV shows at this point, and sometimes I do
feel very bad about someone's edit that they get that
like I'm not sure if it's like it seems like
a little below the belt and them making fun of
Ryan just kind of walking around like a puts in
an idiot and like playing that.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
Yeah, I know, but he's a big built guy. He
had a suit on and you know, he just kind
of didn't fit in that much.
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There.
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Speaker 1 (14:29):
You know, when Alan's walking around the turret, none of
us were tapped on the shoulder.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
You mean, when he's walking around the rounds Heter.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Sorry, no, not me.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
The three of us know, that's why we're faithfuls here.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
So this is what I think is interesting when I
watched it back, is if I were to have been
touched on the shoulder, how would I have responded in
that moment? Because you want to be quiet? But the
Christian guy like has this big smile on his face,
which was like, I was like, ooh, that's so what
a great shot that would be. If I was to
produce user and you know video village, I wonder what
would you guys do if you were touched on the shoulder?
(15:04):
Would you react at all? Or just stay as quiet
as possible?
Speaker 3 (15:08):
I think stay as quiet as possible.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
Yeah, you can't really say what you do in that moment, right.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
Maybe a smark But he was like kind of over
the top, like cook, you know, and then who was
it that?
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Just?
Speaker 4 (15:21):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (15:22):
Suri?
Speaker 2 (15:23):
Suri?
Speaker 4 (15:23):
She was like nothing, like No, I would be like her,
I think because I'm not very demonstrative in my you know,
I don't get worked up and I don't usually like
you know, my pulse never changes no matter what who
I'm fighting or who I'm arguing with, So I can
kind of think that I'd be more stoic than not,
but I wouldn't be cornball about it and like getting
(15:46):
all excited.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
No, but it fits his personality. He's kind of cornball.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
No, So you think about it and you're like, yeah, no,
I mean, but then when you're not touched, when you're
not hit on the shoulder, I'm offended.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
I was like, I'm not good enough.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
I'm not good enough.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
But then like he's walking around, that's a lot.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
Well, how long is it with him walking around?
Speaker 2 (16:10):
A long time?
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Right, so much longer in reality than it is on TV,
because I think they're trying to confuse us. And I
mean he probably walked around twenty five times. I feel like, yeah,
it was a lot.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
And so what were your thoughts on who he chose?
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Well, clearly clearly he chose.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Well, yeah, I think he did. It's you know, Cody, Christian,
and Surrey are the three that he danced.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
It's very funny that Cody is annoyed by Christian and
then has to go and see him the turret and
he's like.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
That's even worse.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
First of all, getting the big task of becoming a
trader and then going in there and seeing the one
person you actually couldn't stand that you met.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
It's kind of a downer right now.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
You guys, refresh my memory. You can't. The Traders can't
go against each other in the very beginning, right.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
They can't say you're trader. They can elude.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
But at one point on the show, like a trader
can get rid of another Trader, right they do.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Boston Rob went fully in on another Trader.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Bob the drag Queen.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
So yeah, in my so, they can banish, not murder,
but they can banish their own kind. But at the
very beginning of the show, can they isn't there like
you have to be so many episodes in before they
can start doing that shit.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
I ever heard that?
Speaker 1 (17:33):
No, I did. Like Kate from Below Deck, who's someone
who's kind of like now omni present on this show,
believes that people have preconceived notions of her and apparently
her great grandfather is a cousin of Sherlock Holmes, which
I'm not sure.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Great great grand I'm sure.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
I'm not sure if any of those things are true,
But I love that she said.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
I didn't believe her because ever since I uh, ever
since I was on the Traders.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
I believe no one.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
Anymore, just so you know. So.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
By the way, although Kate is my very.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
Dear friend and I love her dearly, I'm going to
DM her and ascri if that was true. But it's not,
I said Wire, but see another world like you, like
at another time, I would have before Traders, I would
have believed her.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
Really, I don't know. I think she just set up
for the show just I think so too.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
But everybody is clearly afraid of Cody because of him
winning Big Brother. I've never been a big brother. I
never watched the show. Teddy was on it for like
a hot second, so I watched like two episodes. Tell
me she was on and I just after she was gone.
I never watched it, So I don't know anything really
about that show.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
I'm the same way, you know what, when it comes
to like who the players are starting to like create
theories about it. It's interesting that a handful of people
suspect AyL Dean because she looked jittery and anxious after
the track, which is such a hard thing. Like, I
don't think anyone knows how they would react in that situation.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
Everybody talks a lot of shit while they're watching it, like,
how could you not know? How could? Like my family
was yelling at me when I came home. It was
a whole thing. And I mean after they watched it,
they were like, my kids were like embarrassed of me.
I'm like, what did you want? Made another land? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (19:22):
I know you're wrong about everything, but you made it
all the way to that.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
I got the first in the Last Trader write but listen,
I'll take it.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
I think it's the hardest part of the game is
you have to go off stupid things, especially in the beginning,
because you believe nothing legit to like go off of.
It's like on my season, it was somebody was breathing loud.
Somebody was, you know, chittering.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
I remember that, like you were breathing. Then he's like,
but I have asthma, Like he didn't know what to
say because he was being accused. Then she said, see,
you lied about that. You don't have asthma.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
You just try to find anything and everything I know.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
So if you're lied about that, then you're lying about everything, right,
So mm.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Hmm my big theory going into it. It didn't work, obviously,
But what I was trying to do is I was
trying to eliminate people that I didn't think could be
traders and then have a pool of people that I
think would be.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
So I'm really smart and.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
I was trying to do it. Like, if I was
producing this show, you know, I like Tom Sandoval is
a good example. I said, if I'm producing this show,
there is nothing more uninteresting than making America's biggest villain
a villain again. So I'm not making him a trader.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Yeah, I thought the same thing.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
Well, he said it. He's like, I would not have
signed up for this show if I was. He goes,
look at me, Do I need to be a trader
right now? I'm the most hated man in America. The
New York Times actually did a article on it.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
Yeah, poor guy.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
But there were other people like like I in from
our season. I was like, I just don't know. Unless
she's the best actor in the world, she didn't really
kind of under even understand what was going on in
the game. I was like, there's no way they're making
you a trader. Also, like you seem like someone who's me,
Like I need I need my beauty sleep and so
I can't stay up in this turret for too long.
(21:06):
So that's what I was trying to do. It when
when I got out of you know, out that makes
sense the roundtable, and I was wondering what you what
You guys were trying to pinpoint and figure out who
the traders were so early on in the show.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
So I couldn't.
Speaker 4 (21:23):
I I was what I was trying to pinpoint was
getting what other people were thinking because I was still
very new to the show.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
The truth of the matter is I watched a.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
Bit of the first season when it first came out,
and once Resid got murdered, I lost interest because he's
my friend.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
So I'm like, oh, I don't feel like And then
I got.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
That was episode one. I know you watched one episode, yeah, and.
Speaker 4 (21:51):
Then you would and play and then I and then
I just was like, but no, But then I binged it.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Before I got there.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
Oh gotcha.
Speaker 4 (21:57):
Why did you watch it as a whole all the time?
Speaker 3 (22:00):
Yeah, I watched. I tried to watch the Australian one.
I tried to watch.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
Oh, I'm saying before you were asked to be on
the show, was it something you tuned in?
Speaker 3 (22:07):
And yeah, I did, because Brandy was on a new
Brandy a new Kate and yeah, but obviously you watch
it again closely, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
So I was feeling my way through from since the
time I got there, and I was kind of like
going off everybody's opinion but making my own.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
Yeah. For me, it was like the people that I
did know, like the housewives, are they acting different? Are
they not talking about the show? Are they you know?
And then other people like there's certain people that were
accusing people of being traded. You're a trader, you're a trader,
and the other ones that would never even say the
word acute, they would never accuse anybody being a trader,
or the ones that are saying I'm not a trader,
(22:51):
I'm not a trader all the time. Like to me,
I was like, that's kind of like a red flag.
If you keep saying you're not a trader, in my mind,
you're a damn trader.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
That's why Tony got banished, right, Well, Tony got banished
because he was so dead set on saying I'm an investigator,
I came here to play, I would never be and
he just talked and talked and talked, and that's how
that's what made people very suspicious of him.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Yeah, well Rachel was suspicious of Cody because she knows
him outside the game. She can tell that she's a trader.
I'm surprised that there are people that can pinpoint things
so quickly, because I feel like she was good our season.
We had no clue. I didn't until I got banished
to dive the clue. But we had no clue. But
(23:43):
good for Rachel for figuring that out.
Speaker 4 (23:45):
Good.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
I think Rachel knows somebody outside of the show you
can tell when they're acting different.
Speaker 4 (23:53):
That's true to me because then the Housewives, well you
know what it was.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
The Housewives got killed so quickly.
Speaker 4 (24:02):
You weren't able to tell if they were ever acting
different because they didn't get to be able.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
To act differently. Yeah, that sucks, It did sucks.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
And what did they do the first two seconds in
the tourret Let's go after the Bravo people and separate them.
What do you call it?
Speaker 2 (24:17):
The annoying one?
Speaker 4 (24:18):
He says. He's like, yeah, well they have a strong presence,
all three of them together.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
We got to break them up.
Speaker 4 (24:26):
And then Resa trying so hard at the mission is
essentially what got them killed.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
You know, I would love to know how they come
up with the missions and how they map out an
entire season of all these missions. I mean every year.
I'm so happy in ours. Nobody had to be buried alive.
That was a deal breaker for me. That was something
in negotiations. I said, I will not be buried alive
or put into any kind of little tiny box and
(24:55):
closed up. I just I'm super clastophobic. Can't do it.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
I'm taking you're taking my breath away.
Speaker 4 (24:59):
I don't care out the bugs, guys, I don't care
about that, but I absolutely what wells you care about
the bugs?
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Yeah? They asked me, you know, was is there one
thing that you won't do? I said, if there's spiders
or bugs put on me, I will leave. They're like,
what about twenty thousand dollars? And I said, I don't
care about twenty thousand dollars. Not do that. But I
could do. I could sit in the casket for three
hours so you and.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Get buried and have dirt put on you.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
Yeah, I think I'd be fine with that, but spider
on me would absolutely.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
I would have a heart. I would die in there.
You would just have to leave me there because I
would be dead and that has to tell you.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
I went to a very tiny, little small town dinery yesterday.
It was like a living room, and they sat us
in this little booth and as I was walking to
the booth, the.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
Walls started to close in on me. I was like,
I'm out.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
No, No, takes me back to my my kids are
little when I went on that Disneyland submarine ride, not
knowing that you're like squashed in this tight and it
goes underwater. I almost had a freaking panic attack inside
that something. Nope, ever since then, the bugs all day.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
I do have an interesting fact about the games or
the missions. I believe they're called right yeah is you know,
for at least for our season. The UK season had
just filmed right before we did, and they all had
almost the exact same games we had, so they are
just recreating those for the American audience. And the reason
(26:28):
why I know that is because Dylan after the show
called me and he was like, I'm launching the UK
one and I'm seeing all the the you know, we
had to do that dragon boat race and all that
kind of stuff. He was like, I'm seeing they're doing
that right before we are. So they come up with
one idea and then they just I guess parse it
out for the other shows.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
Oh, I didn't know that. That's a good fact to know.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Okay, I didn't.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
I know that either very and I've seen like the missions,
they're stepping it up each season.
Speaker 4 (26:59):
Well they have to, and you know it's all in
the creativity, right. So I think that this season, call
it a hunch, but they're going to make more of
an incentive financially to a single person, like it's not
just for the whole group or whoever wins. I feel
like somehow they're going to have to make more of
(27:22):
a financial incentive for this.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Why do you think that, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
So people try harder. I think you just have to
make people want something more. I tried hard. I tried
very hard. I never cared about winning a shield. I
never cared. I just cared because I was part of
a group and I wanted to do well for them.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
So I don't disagree with you. I think that goes
back to my point that I opened with, is like
I think that the more money needs to be involved
for celebrities to really really care, because I think I
noticed that from our season where people were like I
don't care, you know, like, I'm not going to break
(28:07):
my back for this thing. I don't care that much.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
I never thought I was going to win, so I
didn't care. I'm still trying to still trying to figure
out why I was there.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
And what I was doing.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Yeah, you were trying to not die from from COVID.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
Yeah yeah, yeah, that was my biggest life.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
You were literally surviving.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
I was really.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
What did you guys think about the first mission? Did
you guys have to do anything like that? With fire?
Speaker 1 (28:40):
It was almost exactly the same. Well, we had to
row boats and we went to that exact lock. I
think we had to do something very similar. We were
all just in one big boat, but this one was
a couple of row boats and stuff. And it's funny
because you do have to delegate this decision making, right,
(29:01):
Like some people need to be rowing, some people need
to be like yelling out to row, some people need
to be steering. Some people like Kate just.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
In she just sat back.
Speaker 4 (29:11):
Well, you know, it's better to sit back than have
people that are actually no use of the actual mission
but refuse to not be involved.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
That was Kate you're talking about.
Speaker 4 (29:22):
Kate, No, she did that no, Kate just sat back
and said, let somebody better do it.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
But like, but if you get overly involved like Resa did,
and you're screaming and yelling and overreacting, you're dead.
Speaker 4 (29:39):
Once again. I say it was more for the team
because the housewives on our show, not that we're not
talking about our show. We're talking about here, but even
like with Reza, we cared about the team more than
the gamers cared.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
They care. Gamers played for themselves.
Speaker 4 (29:56):
We played Bravo plays for the team.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
So to think of out that before you guys try
to get rid of.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
Us again, four housewifes guide off the bat, off the
off the boat first thing to help the team knowing that,
well we didn't. I me and Durinda found out after
we got off that we figured out that we're probably
up for murder at night. But but you know, and
Ress was yelling at everybody because he wanted everybody to win,
as it like there was a camaraderie. But the gamers
(30:23):
they'll cut your throat. They don't care. As you see here, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
Looking for a weakness for sure. The one thing that
was interesting about this mission compared to the missions that
we had to do on our season was there was
no immunity shield available on this mission, so that was
must have been something that they implemented down the line,
because I don't remember there being like if you get
there first, your boat gets immunity tonight, right, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
I think that every season they're doing a little different
tweaks to each cast. Our season is when they started
adding the extra shields during the missions, which makes you
work even harder to make the game more fun.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Well, both teams who were able to finish the mission,
so the green team got twenty thousand dollars and a
blue team got ten thousand dollars. It came down to
the wire. How much do you believe that it really
was that close or that they kind of stretched it
out so they both could make the uh make the time.
Speaker 4 (31:20):
So listen, it's the first mission, right, so they kind
of give you a little leeway.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
They probably did help them.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
Out a little bit, oh for sure.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
And I'm not against that.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
You guys, remember like before they do the missions, like
off camera, there's like a whole team that comes out
like a safety team, and is that and they explain
the mission to you?
Speaker 2 (31:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (31:38):
Yeah, at any mission, did you're like what they just say,
I don't even know, always talking.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
About no I listened.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
I don't know. Maybe I don't listen. But there was
a few I'm like, I have I have no idea
what we're doing, but okay, let's just go No. See,
I was very tuned in.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
I listened. I'm always a rule follower too.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
It is also hard to listen to directions from someone
who's speaking with like a really thick Scottish accent.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
Right wait, I'm used to that.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
Oh yeah, you are definitely inso that with your boyfriend there.
Some of them I didn't quite I didn't completely understand.
Like I got the premise of it, but I didn't
completely understand. And I'm kind of that person that has
to do it to understand it. You just can't tell me.
And then I'm like, oh, I got it. So some
of them were like, I'm not sure what I'm doing.
(32:31):
I'm just gonna follow everybody. I just follow follow all somebody.
Speaker 4 (32:35):
What really surprised me is, see, we haven't gotten to
the shield yet. Was there there was a shield? Right?
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Who you really see with somebody?
Speaker 4 (32:45):
The character of somebody, And this is something I was
looking to see characters of people more.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Than I was trying to pick out a trader.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
I wanted to see who I wanted to get close
to by the way they treated other people when they
played the game.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Yeah, that was part of like.
Speaker 4 (33:02):
My strategy, if you want to call it a strategy
or whatever. I do that in life anyway. But that's
one of the things I brought to the game. Is like,
you just ft over the person you were to grab
that shield. It's a game right thing to do.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
But now I don't like you for it, you know what, Well,
that shows your character.
Speaker 4 (33:21):
That's what That's what my thing was. And if you
didn't get off that boat or you know, I remember,
I remember getting off the boat and I looked around
and I looked at the people who were of no
use on that boat. But we're not moving gamer gamer
gamer really And one thing I find with in the
(33:42):
Traders is there's inherently a little bit of a selfish
component to them in their character.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
You have to if you're going to your contestants, remember
that out of the words of Dolores or what.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
It's also really easy to put a target on your
back if you are willing to sacrifice yourself like that, right,
Like it's such an easy argument to be like, well,
of course you are.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
Getting this shield. You're a trainer because you're.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
A trader, and it's not you're not up for you know,
murder tonight. And that's a very compelling argument, and it
was one that I fell into on our season and
I was completely wrong about. But I can see how
gamers are like, we can use this against them.
Speaker 4 (34:27):
Right, so watch out for that. Guys, play for that
shield because because then you can also put a target
on your back. Now, in my show, Sam never fought
for a shield. I never fought for a shield. Who
else Iver didn't care about getting a shield? And Danielle
(34:48):
gave me her shield in the church.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
Yeah, that was weird. I have to admit that was odd.
Speaker 4 (34:56):
She was like playing against herself. But I didn't want
it because I really didn't want it. But but she
made me very faithful to her for that, because if
somebody does something for me, then I act like, oh
my god, now I owe you my life in real life,
and Carolyn kept saying to me, don't worry, she'll be
(35:16):
She'll be here for breakfast. Really like, if she doesn't
show up to breakfast, I'll die.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
If she gave me her Shelt. Oh my god, I'll
never live with myself.
Speaker 4 (35:27):
That girl wanted this game so bad.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
Yeah. Well, everyone comes back after the mission, and some
people are considering that the trader should take the challenge
into consideration, which I think is very funny, but like,
I understand the thought process of like, well, you don't
want to kill people that are like really trying hard
and it can make make us the most amount of money.
But the traders aren't thinking that way at all.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
They could care less.
Speaker 4 (35:54):
Yeah, because every trader feels they're making it to the
end and winning because they have the advantage of being
a trade so they kind of can control who's staying
and who isn't right for the most part. So the
traders are just like, yeah, no, I don't care. I'm
gonna win anyway, and I'm taking all the money, and
in this case, the trader did.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
Once the Faithfuls go to sleep, the Traders meet in
the turret for their first murder. Cody's excited to team
up with Surrey, but he's not super pumped about Christian.
I can't imagine why.
Speaker 4 (36:28):
Wait, so you're telling me Christian is just a regular
guy who comes on who just gets on everybody's nerves.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
Is this basically pretty much?
Speaker 4 (36:39):
So?
Speaker 2 (36:39):
He would be good for reality TV.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
He's rated reality TV if you ask me, And at
this point he is a reality TV star. I wonder
if he is really this annoying or if he was
playing it up.
Speaker 4 (36:51):
I feel like he is.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
I'm going to call it a hunch.
Speaker 4 (36:54):
I'm going to go out on a limb here and
say there's a good chance he is in a good way. Though, Christian,
we're not shitting on you. In the first episode here, we.
Speaker 3 (37:02):
Don't you don't you feel like every season a star
is born. And I think Dylan definitely was a star.
Who came out that I mean, Phaedra came out a star.
She's got several shows after that. Who do you think
became the star of this season?
Speaker 1 (37:21):
Kate? I think, yeah, that's Kate.
Speaker 4 (37:23):
I can think there you go, She's she's done well.
She was so funny. They freaking loved her at Peacock.
They loved her on the show. They loved her wit
see the UK and Irish people and over there they
love that dry sense of humor. They call it taking
the piss out of you like they bust. It's inhearrate
(37:46):
like they bust your balls all day, like it's they
do it to each other. They don't get offended. Tients
get offended. Okay, well, in our world we get offended.
We don't like practical jokes. That's how you get killed.
We don't like making kind of we don't think it's
funny making fun of somebody else.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
But in that culture, they love that, and Kate fit
that so well.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
Well, why would they even consider murdering Kate, Reza and Brandy.
Speaker 4 (38:14):
Because they wanted to split the vote, They wanted to
split their bond and you.
Speaker 3 (38:19):
Know, because they were Bravo people.
Speaker 4 (38:21):
Yes, because they say, well, Kate says, Bravo people stick together.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (38:26):
I thought they were good shields for the traders to
hide behind because they were so vocal.
Speaker 4 (38:30):
I know, but don't they watch the housewife shows. They
stab each other in the path more than the show. True.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
Obviously, you guys are Bravo people, so you're going to
defend this. But I can understand the thought process of
there's power and numbers. These guys are going to stick together,
and we got to break up those numbers so we
can still control what's you know, the narrative of the show.
Speaker 4 (38:55):
I don't disagree with you.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
I understand it.
Speaker 4 (38:57):
I don't have to like it.
Speaker 1 (38:59):
Yeah, I can understand why you guys auld be like,
what's going on with what did we do to you?
Speaker 2 (39:02):
You know, Let's see.
Speaker 4 (39:04):
You know, this was the first season, episode one. They
were just getting their failures out.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
I wonder if.
Speaker 4 (39:10):
That that mindset changes as these seasons go on.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
It was still very strong in my season m hm.
Speaker 4 (39:21):
But let's see what next season brings if they're still
like that, because you know, they got to switch it up,
so we'll see.
Speaker 1 (39:30):
You know. It's interesting the way there are obviously multiple
ways that you can play this game as a trader.
You know, you could either be an agent of chaos
and have everyone kind of on their toes and really
really confused. You can be someone who is kind of
like slowly dropping breadcrumbs to lead people in a direction.
You can be someone who wants to pile on of
what everyone else is thinking that you know is wrong.
(39:53):
And I you know, I think it's tough because in
the beginning, I don't think you know exactly what you
want to do, and you also might have conflicting theosis
of how to go about it, right, Like, I bet
you that Cody's ideas of what he should be doing
as a trader is much different than Christians. Right.
Speaker 3 (40:09):
Well, I think the second one that you talked about
with the breadcrumbs, that's that's a trader mindset, very calculated,
trying to think ten steps ahead and direct people in
different you know, there are different directions us housewives. We're
just like, we're just here for the fight, man, That's
all we want to do. We don't care about setting
people up, like, let's come on, let's get grunts.
Speaker 4 (40:31):
You know, like in war in the Marines, the first
people they put out into the field are the grunts.
Speaker 2 (40:39):
So we're the housewives on this Traders are the grunts.
Speaker 4 (40:42):
And I have to say, though, if I had a
theory and I didn't have one, I think the best
thing is to not have one to take every day
because things change every day.
Speaker 2 (40:55):
Yeah, and you.
Speaker 4 (40:55):
Don't know who's you have to go into it as
you You can't like kind of like think about what
you're going to do because you don't know who's showing
up either. You really don't until you get there. And
everybody has to be handled differently. Now I know, how
to handle a gamer. And now I know who I
would listen to, who I would be.
Speaker 2 (41:18):
More suspicious of.
Speaker 4 (41:20):
You have to really be there to feel it.
Speaker 2 (41:23):
It's the feeling.
Speaker 4 (41:24):
It's the gut also that takes some type of role here.
Speaker 3 (41:30):
Yeah, I think in the beginning it's you're better off
listening more than talking, and the more you talk, the
more you're going to get yourself more eyes around you.
Like for example, on our show, Peppermint was a big
personality and she talked, talked talk, well, she slipped and
she said accidentally said she was a trader and she
got banished because of that, and it was just to
(41:51):
slip up. She just misspoke in her words. But at
the very beginning, nobody has nothing to do to go
off of that would just listen talk less. It's such
a balance, I know.
Speaker 1 (42:04):
But so what's so hard about that, And at least
for me was I'm so used to trying to be
entertaining on television shows making good television, and like being
quiet is it would annoy me and so I but
that's ultimately what got me got me in trouble. The
(42:25):
one thing that I do wish and I don't know
how this would be perceived, but I wish that I was.
I had like a notepad with me at all times
and was able to write down everything because I would
notice things and then I'm flighty and I would just
about it, and that I'd watch back and be like,
I noticed that, but I don't didn't remember it least
(42:46):
you remember.
Speaker 3 (42:47):
Did you go back each night and I know it's
late by the time you get back, you know, to
your room. Did you write things down? Did you take notes?
Speaker 1 (42:53):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (42:55):
Never, I didn't.
Speaker 4 (42:57):
I did in the very end, when and I had
had enough of Tom Sandibal, and I wrote down all
the points on how I was going to go to breakfast.
I literally took my book out and I wrote down
the points I was going to make for everybody to
turn on Sandabal.
Speaker 2 (43:13):
I get to breakfast, I'm ready to go.
Speaker 4 (43:16):
I say everything I had to say, and he gets
murdered the night before.
Speaker 2 (43:22):
That's ahile show up.
Speaker 4 (43:24):
I was like, and I had everybody on board. Everybody
was like, he's going tonight, He's going to I'm like, yes, yes,
it and then.
Speaker 2 (43:30):
I'm like, you gotta be kidding me. I didn't even
get a chance.
Speaker 3 (43:34):
To do about my moment. My moment my moment.
Speaker 4 (43:37):
It was my moment and they took it away from me,
those damage readers.
Speaker 3 (43:42):
Oh my gosh. Well it was a great first episode.
Speaker 1 (43:46):
Yes, I'm excited to watch episode two because you know,
the first episode of these shows really is you're you're
kind of just introducing everyone to everybody and like kind
of setting the stage, and not a whole lot really happened,
even though it's funny because that first episode takes the
most amount of time to film. But now that we're
getting a second episode and things are gonna start getting
(44:08):
dramatic and more fun, I am excited for next week's episode,
for sure.
Speaker 4 (44:14):
I'm very excited and I can't wait to hear from Well,
we don't have a name for you guys yet, so
reach out to us and tell us what you think.
We have two questions for you to think about. What
you'd like to be called. We want to call you Faithfuls,
but it's going.
Speaker 2 (44:29):
To be your call. And the other thing is do you.
Speaker 4 (44:33):
Like the mix of celebrities and non celebrities or do
you like celebrities across the board? So those are two
things we want to hear from you about. And we
are so looking forward and so excited about this.
Speaker 1 (44:43):
If you guys want to follow us on Instagram, please
do a by Order of the Faithful, subscribe, review rate,
all that stuff. Thank you, guys so much for listening
to By Order of the Faithfuls. We'll be back next
week recapping episode two of season one USA of the Traders.
See you guys late,
Hosts And Creators
Teddi Mellencamp
Tamra Judge
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