October 3, 2025 • 46 mins
We’re starting season 2 off with a bang! Since it’s Tamra’s season, she’s giving us all of the BTS dirt we’ve been dying to hear…
When Tamra was sick, how did she manage to stay in the game? Did we see the full clip of Peppermint’s banishment? Who did Alan have an issue with?
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome all you Traders and Faithfuls too. By order of
the Faithfuls Season two, Episode one and two. I'm wells Adams.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
I'm alongside Tama, Judge and Dolores.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
No, we really should have Tamra be doing the intro
of this, because.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
By Tamra, this is your girl. Okay, it's so weird, guys,
because you know, I'm not. I don't really like watching
myself like most people are on TV, and guys like
watching well, do you like watching yourself?
Speaker 1 (00:35):
I will love watching myself on Paradise. I hate I
hated watching myself on Traders.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Really. I find that men, you know, like me and
Heather de Brow have this conversation because Terry has a show,
and she's like, oh, he loves watching himself and laughing.
Same thing with Eddie, same thing with it all. Yeah, God,
it's guy. It's a guy thing.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
They're like all like the first of you all just show.
Everyone knows. I never watched the show until I started
dating Paul.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Oh he made me watch it. What Traders?
Speaker 2 (01:06):
No Housewives?
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Well you were on Housewives? You were on Housewives? Do
you mean other franchises? No?
Speaker 2 (01:13):
I never watched myself.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Oh I see that's what we were saying, like.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
I don't like to watch myself. One. I hate to
hear myself. I don't like to watch myself.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Oh if I hear my voice from the other room
and Eddie's watching a clip of something, I'm like, turn.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
It down, same, same and handle it.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
But I'll tell you like, watching it really brought me
back to being in Scotland. And first of all, I
was like, shit, man, I should have had some botox
and you better make it. I was so sick. I
was so sick.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
God.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
But it was like I was watching it for the
first time.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Can we get some behind the scenes on this, because yes,
it does seem like you're not there a whole lot
in episode one, because I assume it's because you're sick
to talk us through it, you fly to Inverness, you
get over there, I assume you film like half of
day one.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
And so our our.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
First episode took three or four days. Really, yes, so
I was actually out four full days.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
That's a lot there. They do a lot in that time.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
So in those four days, they filmed a couple of
things at the castle a couple of days, and we
had our press day where we took pictures.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Oh, I forgot about that.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
So I missed all that. So I those three or
four days I was out, I had no voice. I
couldn't even talk like I was. I sound like a
seal when I was trying to talk, and so just
so unbelievably sick. Yeah, I filmed the first day and
that night I'm like, oh my god, I don't feel well.
(02:50):
And by the next morning I was out, just like oh,
feeling ache the worst, probably the It felt like the
worst fluid ever had in my entire life.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
If anyone else get sick.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
On well not I don't know about the cast, but
you know how we have security guards outside. Yeah, so
the day would have to and this is the worst part.
They don't let you have your medicine. You have to
It's like being in jail. You have to ask for
your medicine. So if I woke up at two in
the morning and I don't have a phone, so I
(03:23):
have to get out of bed, which I could barely walk,
go down the hall and usually security guards sleeping in
the middle of the night out there, and be like,
I need my medicine. Then I got away for him
to go get it and bring it to me, so
he goes, yeah, he goes, it's COVID. He goes, I
know it's COVID because I had it, my wife had it,
and a lot of the security guards had it too,
(03:46):
and they were all in my room unpacking my clothes
when I got there, going through my shit, trying to
find something. And yeah, so that's where I got it
the first night I got there.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Do you think that they dragged production to be three
days to film one because you were sick and they
were hoping that you'd get back hope.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
I don't know. I never got an answer to that.
I never even asked the question. But how long did
it take you guys to film your first episode?
Speaker 1 (04:12):
I feel like it was two days to Loris rev.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Yeah, yeah, I'd say I'd say it was two days,
but you know, maybe they get quicker every year.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Yeah, well they changed things every year. But I was
out a good three or four days, and I remember
the psychologists came in and said, listen, if you don't
go back tomorrow, you're going to have to go home.
First producers told me that. Then the therapist came in
and told me that, and they're like, you know what,
you have such an advantage because people aren't thinking about
you because you've been sick and all this stuff, and
(04:42):
I'm they talked you into it.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Yes, well I wanted to go back, honestly, go all
the way there, not to film.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Yeah, I mean could you imagine one all the way
there and being so I wouldn't have been able to
fly home because I was so sick.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Did you have to pass a COVID test before you
came back?
Speaker 3 (04:57):
No, they didn't even give me one.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Wow, I think.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
It's four days. Well, now as the like, if you
have it for four days, you could go back to
work after that, because you you can test positive for
months after. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Yeah, I filmed a season of Paradise in the middle
of the in the middle of COVID, and we had
a completely closed set and we had to get tested
every single day.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
Yeah, well we did that. When I came back to
Housewives three years ago. We were tested every single time,
like every three days. Every three days, we had to
be tested. And there's girls that got COVID and didn't
have not one symptom. And I remember one year Emily
couldn't go on a cast trip. She's like, I'm fine.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Doesn't matter, I know ye, well if somebody else could
not be fine.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Yeah, yeah, let's get into season two. This is Tamras season.
You know, I like that you say people know you
as a calculate I heard.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
People think it's so funny because people think I'm this
calculated housewife that digs up information and I'm like, no,
not any Usually information comes to me and I you know,
there's not a whole lot of calculation going on.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
When you said that, is people that because you understand
it's not well housewives watching the show. There's a lot
of gamer people watching the show that have never watched Housewives.
We knew what that meant so well, and people that
watch Housewives Housewives friens like yeah, camera, and then other
people were like why is probably like why the hell
(06:37):
is she saying that about herself?
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Yeah? Well, and then also like on the show, I'm
the one that always figures things out, like I if
somebody's lying, I'm like the truth teller. If somebody's lying,
I'll figure you out in two seconds.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Yeah, you you thought that John was lying and went
pretty hard in on him, right, didn't you? Like, do
you with the asthma? You're not asthmatic? You liar?
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Well, she baited him. Tamma baited him. She's like, oh,
anybody gotta puffer.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Yeah, well he this bit, I know what he had
said at the roundtable. He's like, well, I am smartly
asmatic and as a kid, you know, he's going on
and on and on, and so I.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Had suspicion annoying breather.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
But also you have to you guys know this, Like
at the very beginning, you're looking for any side. Somebody's
eye goes to the left and their cock eyed. You're like, oh,
he's a trader.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Yeah. Well you're also trying to just deflect any energy
away from you, right, So anyone else that you can
blob onto, then great, that's what you gotta do.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
I was truly afraid that I was going to go
in there and people are gonna be like, oh, she's
been playing the housewife game four years. Okay, she's calculated,
she can manipulate. And honestly, I thought, because I had
been on Housewives so long, that I could like this
would be easy, and it wasn't.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Wasn't. It's a totally different animal because those people, the
people on the show are not playing themselves and housewives.
They're playing themselves. We know their history, we know their relationships,
we know how they've treated other people, how they've been
with other friends. We're meeting people that are not really
true to themselves in the game. That's not who they
(08:27):
really are. Boston Robb is not a natural born killer.
He's an actually lovely family man, you know. Yeah. Yeah,
So that's where I got thrown off. I don't know
about you.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Well, it's interesting to see the different types of television
stars there, right. So you have you know, people of
your ILK, which is this Housewives, people who are just
like really good at making television. And then you have
the MTV crew, right, like you have CT Trachelle And I.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
Never even heard of that show ever in my life.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
So I love that show going into Trade or something,
so excited when West showed up. But you're right, Delorus,
it's like those guys one, they're good at making TV,
and they're good also like the political game of like
not really showing you who they are, but kind of
manipulating you in a certain way, and you.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Don't know them, right. So that's when I answered Andy
on the reunion when I said, He's like, how could
you not have picked them? I go I'm not used
to people lying, and he just looked at me, like,
what are you talking about? Yeah, I'm not used to
people making believe there's something they're not because you you
just know what they are. When you're in housewives world,
(09:37):
you know this person's what she is in this one
at right, Tamra, you know who everybody basically is.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
And then you have the Survivor people right you about
Poverty and Sandra, they were on the same season Survivor.
They also they don't get along the same way that
like Johnny Bananas in CT doesn't get along. So in
her interview, Fade has this amazing line where she realizes
that she's surrounded by a bunch of people who like
went on Survivor and eat rattlesnakes, and she just says
(10:08):
she glamps.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Yeah. So the funny thing is they might be on
Survivor and eat rattlesnakes, but some housewives would eat their
own young at this point, So I don't know why
I Padra would even think that that she did still
didn't have the advantage dealing with some housewives and the
way they can go on.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
Yeah, the only people that I knew going into it
was the Housewives and Max from Dance with the Stars.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Oh you know Max. He seemed nice.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Yeah, what was he like? Tell me about him?
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Because he was like quiet, he was on his own,
nobody really clicked.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
Well, yeah he was, and then that comes to bite
him in the ass.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
But he was.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
I've done a couple of charity events and I've met
him through child Help and he's not really he's really
big into the organization. So it was my really close girlfriend,
so I met him there. He probably didn't remember, but uh,
he was very quiet the very first day. He walked
around very quiet, just staring at people, didn't talk too much.
(11:09):
And then you see him change a little bits as
it goes on. So I don't know if he's just
somebody that needs to warm up or at first, I'm like, God,
this guy's kind of an asshole.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Because he wasn't like gregarious, and he wasn't.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
He just wasn't talking to anybody.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
He was just kind of noticed, was kind of on
by himself. But did anyone try to like bring him
into conversations or bring him into a click or he
I just think he felt like he didn't fit in
because he hadn't He really didn't.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
He didn't fit in and I And that's basically what
it felt like. And I think that he was kind
of like, why am I here? I don't want to
be here, walking.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
In and out of rooms, and he just didn't feel
like comfortable. I felt like he didn't feel comfortable. I
happened to like him, Oh, I love it as a person.
I think he's lovely.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
I've seen him a few times and sense since we
were filmed together, and he's just a really nice, good
family guy.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Yeah. And I think sometimes some of the gamers here
were a little cocky.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
And by the way and extremely intelligent.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
You know what it was maybe with him, I don't
think he grooved to the gamer like Macheese moo, like
they kind of have this attitude about them.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
No, like they're repo guys. Yeah, Bananas, it looks like
a reap.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
And I feel like, maybe you know that, maybe Max
felt that way too.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Okay, So I can I can speak from experience with
Johnny Bananas because I did a television show with him.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Oh, tell Us, tell Us and so like.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
So I So I'm asking you, Tamar, because I want
to get your perspective on it, because so I did
Worst Cooks in America. I did the entire show is
I went to the finals against Johnny Bananas. So I
did an entire season with the guy, and I remember
the first three episodes. I was like, this guy is
the most annoying person I've ever had to do a
(13:15):
television show with. He word I know, I know, especially
from the shows that I come from.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
I know.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
He won't stop talking. He's yelling, he's like just taking
all that.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Why that's why he's gone.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
Yes, I'll tell you what.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
I'll tell you behind the scenes what he did.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Yeah, so so real quick. So I the first three
days I hated him, And at the end of it,
I was like, you're so good at this, Like I
totally understand why you're so good on TV because you're
doing this and and people love you. But in my mind,
I'm sitting there thinking they killed him because they were
annoyed by him. That was my initial thought.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
Well, Alan was annoyed by him. So so what happened was,
you know, when you walk into the roundtable for the
very first time, and you're they're gonna pick so you know,
there's a pile of gold coins sitting there the prop
he grabs some and put them in his jacket pocket.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Very funny, by the way, Yeah, I don't think that's funny.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
And then he's cheesy and then they cut it out.
But then then he pulls it out and Alan was mad. Yeah,
He's like, don't don't touch my stuff, like put it back.
So he was really kind of annoyed with them. But
you know, you saw when he sat down with Alan,
what did he say, how does it feel to be
the second best dress? Like he he came.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
He sat on the second best dress and he said,
back off, bitch.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
Yeah, Alan goes back off, bitch.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
So he came in like that. Of course that's his
I is known.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
For roan to love him Johnny Bananas, I really have.
I We went to watch phaedor with Dancing with the
Stars and he was there, and he's just such a
nice guy. He really is, I'm sure.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Like I said again, my point to my point in
the beginning is they are actors and actresses. We are
used to unscripted TV, and they morph into a character
where they try to be some of them there not
to get people to trust them, which I was not
aware of. Now I know. Yeah, well, yes, say, he's
not that much of a jerk.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
I didn't watch the challenge, but I'm assuming this is
his TV persona.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
Yeah, yeah, because I spent a lot of time with
him offset you know, like we'd finished filming and then
we'd go get drinks and stuff, and he was a
different guy. He is very sure of himself, and he
is a cocky guy, but not like he is on TV.
And I remember because I just am who I am
all the time. That's like usually my I mean, maybe
(15:44):
I'm a little turned up like an interview, but for
the most part, I just am who I am. And
I remember being like, oh wow, this is wild. You
are so so turned up when you see the red
light on the camera, and it's just something I've just
experienced it.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
It proves that you can't have your TV persona. You
can't bring that all ways. It doesn't always work bringing
it onto traders, because then it just puts a target
on you.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Yeah, but then, right, but annoying people do do last.
Sometimes it's just because of he was loud. This happened
to Reza Reza season one, episode one, during the challenge.
You know, he wasn't I feel like Johnny Bananas wasn't
nice to people during the first challenge, Like he was like,
(16:30):
you're making a slag behind, Like, I don't like that
kind of thing.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Do you know what my first interaction was with Johnny Bananas?
You know, when you're in the car and you're doing
a caravan and you're going to the castle for the
very first time. Yes, Well, something happened to one of
the cars and I don't know if it was the one.
I think it might've been the one he was in.
Something happened, it broke down or something, or got a
flat tire, can't remember. And he gets out and he
(16:56):
comes up to the window and like starts being me
off or us off, all of us off. I'm like,
who is this douche?
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Got it?
Speaker 3 (17:06):
But I've learned to love that Douche's he's a really
nice say see, you can learn to love someone if
they're really sincerely good inside.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
But we really didn't get to see that. And they've
never brought him back being that he was.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
Oh they they asked him back, Oh tell me, did
Tamera with the tea? They did? And he I think
he was, he declined. I think he was filming the challenge.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Yeah, it was supposed to be our season Loloris. They
asked him for season three. Oh okay, because I had
talked to him beforehand and he was like, yeah, I
think I might come and I was like, great, I
know you. I'm excited about this. And then I think
that he went too far in the challenge to be
able to get there in time.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
I would love to Sho come back, but he was.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
It was always next season.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
He was a little bitter. He was bitter when he
got kicked off. He was on on the Gram, he
was on Twitter, he was talking shit. He hated Dan.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Yeah, at least he did cry. If he were to cried,
I would have punched him right in his face through
the screen when I was watching this. I'd better not
see this bitch cry.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
He has made a career out of reality TV. Isn't
that crazy?
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Most of them have.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Yeah, he's been on like twenty something years. But he's
also expanded and he's he started a gym in Florida,
so he's doing and he's got merch and stuff like that.
So March so much merch. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
So this is a fun season to watch the beginning
of because Alan picks two traders in Dan and Phaedra,
who Fadre is such a good pick. I'm not sure
to show sure how I feel about Dan, but it's
fun that immediately it's like, but you guys get to
pick your third and I almost feel like I almost
(18:45):
feel like the traders do a better job of picking
traders than Alan does picking traders.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
Well, you know what's funny is I did watching it back.
I didn't remember that he only picked two and then
there was one recruit and uh, you know how Larsa
came out and said she heard and I heard him
tap on Dan. Yeah, I heard his jacket move and
he and I and I'm like when she said that,
(19:14):
I'm like, I heard that, but who knows that?
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Yeah, you don't know, but I think that Poverty was
a great pick.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
It's such a good pick.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
Well, she's just so good at this stuff, she really is.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
So you have to under like, I think Alan moves
his coat multiple times to make people think that. Maybe
you think he throws people off with that because people
are like, I heard your jacket, So he might do
it on purpose.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
He might. He might.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
It would make sense to because that's what they do.
But you know, I had to feel about a couple
being on here. That's what I want to know.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Yeah, that would be hard for me to do.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
I think, Yeah, I didn't love that they had Larsa
and Marcus on together, and I don't like public displays
of affection. So when they like made out, I.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Don't like love.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
By the way, it was all.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
The time, guys come, I would vomit, and that would
throw my mind off the game. I don't want to
see people make out. Look at how it ended anyway,
But I don't think that this game has any place
for that kind of nonsense. Because your head is why
you're laughing at me while you think I'm a cynical person.
(20:28):
Do you when it comes to relationships and love with
your beautiful writing picture behind you, take it down? Just stop.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
I need to put mine up too to make sure
that's all.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
I will just stop, both of you with your pictures
behind your oh my God podcast.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
I will tell you in the same room.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
No, no, So come on, how they last that long
without poking each other?
Speaker 3 (20:54):
They were all over each other. And by the way,
Marcus was just the nicest guy. He really was. But
he's always been nice to me, and he's DMed me
and said nice, saying since then, really, you're really digging
your hole, right, So what was I going to say? Oh,
so you know when you get there and then I
don't know if you guys had to do this, but
you know they stagger people coming in, but if you're
(21:15):
one of the first people to come in, you got
to stay in your room for three days before the
show starts. So they they were in the room then,
and then as soon as this show started, they had
they got separate rooms.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
I can imagine what's going on. The black light. Take
the black light in that room home start.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
No, No, she would tell me.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
With the black Heart, we got to get her laid everybody.
I think, So I'm hearing so funny.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
No, I'm in a beautiful relationship. I'm just saying, like
these other people that just have to be just kissing
all the time.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
Yeah, I don't want to hear it and I don't
want to see it. But I will have to say,
out of all the missions, I was very happy that
I didn't have to do this one.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Yeah, I was thinking, oh crazy in the water. I'm like,
thank god Tam doesn't have to be there for that.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
I would have had pneumonia, you know, Yeah, for sure.
And it's very telling in the first ioway, I mean,
this is something that I did stand true with. I
was able to tell who I was going to like
from the first mission and how they were with being
part of the game and being like helping the other person.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
So you love Janelle. You thought she was a real
team player.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Oh yeah, unlike this one. I don't trust her. I'm
not trust in her. I just and and I heard
somebody say, yeah, go for it, and I was like, no,
how the other person get onto hide? But that's me.
I can't fault somebody else because they make out with
each other. And I can't be like, fault someone else
(22:52):
for being selfish.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
It's just you know, yeah, well Janelle was there to win,
that's for sure, not to make friends. She made that
quite clear.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Yeah, And you know, I find like I wonder if
that's a true trait in them, like even in real life,
like are you a is there a selfish component to you?
Maybe like the way not you. But I'm saying, like
the person that plays the game like that, are they
really like that in real life?
Speaker 3 (23:18):
I feel like they are because I think gamers are
such different people.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
But it also I don't like that it gives you
an insight about how they'll react if they get to
the end, right, Like someone like that who has no
care about anyone else's issue. I never forgot that is
at the end going to be like I'm gonna try
to screw over as many people as possible to get
the most amount of money. If this is how I'm
acting in the beginning, right.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
So my advice would be to someone going on to
the Traders as a new person now and like a
new season or even people watching it, pay very close
attention to how people play the game in the beginning.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
The first they didn't miss they were not happy with
you now, like she is the first one. Yeah, no,
she was the first one to get you know, untied.
They were all tied up, and she didn't help anybody.
She ran.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
She would liked her.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
Guy, didn't she get the shield?
Speaker 2 (24:13):
She got it? Yeah, And I want you to know
I would not like her for the rest of my
time there.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
For you would like her for the rest of your life.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
No done. I actually, right now watching it pissed me off.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
The Traders have to make two decisions, right, They've got
to decide who they're going to recruit. They go with Parvey,
which I think is a very very very good choice.
And then they've got to make a kill and they
go with Johnny Bananas. He got a good choice, I think,
a good choice. But I also think it's the show
is not at its popularity like it is now in
(24:53):
the beginning of season two, right, and getting rid of
such a big star. I'm sure production was annoyed by that.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Absolutely, Yeah, absolutely, I don't think that I would have
kicked them off.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
That's but they're not playing for the production of it,
and they're not thinking in that tour it what's the
show going to look like when it airs. I didn't
think of that the whole time I was there.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
No, you don't, because I don't know about your season.
Production is not involved. You don't see them except for
when we're on brakes and they tell you to shut
the f up when you're trying to talk game. Wait
for the cameras. Wait for the cameras. They do not interfere.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
No, you get exactly camera, and so you don't realize
you're not thinking about what it's going to look like.
You know, the whole time we're filming Housewives wells. I
don't know if you know this, but we're thinking about
how our lives are going to end once the season airs.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Yeah, so I get that. You know why production is
so hands off though, no, do you? Yeah? And I
really only learned this because Bachelor and Paradise this last
season turned from a relationship show to a game show.
And the second that money's involved, you have, like I
think it's it's like standards and practices or businesses and practices.
(26:13):
There's there's someone who has to be there to be
observing production, make sure they're not manipulating cast to change
the outcome of the end of the game. So if
they're yeah, so you could effectively be like I want
so and so to win because I had a conversation
with him beforehand, and he's gonna give me half the money,
so I'm going to you know.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
Yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
So it's legal and ethical. Yeah, that's why. Holy shit.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
Well, okay, I want to ask you, Tamra. You know,
Trischelle Harps on Peppermint's weird reaction. Is that something that
you picked up on or like, were you honed in
on that?
Speaker 3 (26:52):
No, I was, I don't.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
I don't really there that.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
I don't think I was in the room when that happened.
But honestly, that early in the game, you really have
to like you're going off with nothing. I think I
even say that, like everybody suspicious. And then I wasn't
going to vote for Peppermint. I was going to vote
for Dan. No really no, not Dan the politician John,
(27:16):
sorry John John, Dan, Dave whatever. So I was going
to vote for John. And then when it came out
you know that Peppermint called herself a trader in the kitchen,
I'm like, okay, I got to vote for her.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
And it was the and it was the popular vote.
And then again in the beginning, what do you do?
You go with the popular vote, because when you have
no clue, you're just like, well, this is what I'm
going to do. But off camera when this aired, what
was it, Trishall was it? She got got death threats,
(27:54):
she got bullied online, she got hammered.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
I'll never forget. Like I was in Big Bear and
she's like, you call me and I'm like yeah. She's like,
I haven't been on TV in a long time, Like
is this normal? Like our world girl, horrible horrible things?
And I said, oh, yes, that's just totally normal. If
you get a death threat, Then you're doing something wrong
in our industry.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
I'm stopping a pussy. Stop it stopper, little old death threat.
Never hurt anybody. Get on with yourself.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
Yeah, but it was interesting to see that they, you know,
the the traders need to recruit somebody, and the people
that they were talking about was Larsa, Parvety, Sandra Janelle
for recruitment.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
I mean, so poverty was in there.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
They wantanted a girl. Obviously they're all girls.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
I would have thought like Larsa.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
I would have thought Cet. I would have thought, you know, Bananas.
I would have thought somebody like that.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
But Banana's right murdered.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
So that was they decided who to recruit before they
decided who to murder.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Yeah, Johnny, he would have been so obvious, like he
did not have long he had no longevity in this game. Well,
he was just from the start. I have to say.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
I think he was probably pissed off that he wasn't
a trader in the very beginning. That pissed him off.
And then I think if he was recruited, he would
have to change his personality completely.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
I don't think he could, I know, so then if
he changed then he'd be a mark. He would have
been a mark. He would have been banished very soon
in the game. I don't think he would have lasted.
I just don't.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
But also as a trader, you can also think the
way we can recruit someone who can be a sacrificial
and to keep the heat off of us, right, And
they even kind of brought that up. They were like, well,
you know a lot of people already think so that
might be, that might be a good look.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
You know, I don't soon for the heat to be
on though, right, But.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
You know what's funny is that Dan thinks the heats
on it like that. That's why in that second challenge,
she's like, I need the shield because everyone's already talking
about me because I don't make I don't talk a lot.
I stay quiet.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
Yeah, so I went about Max.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
Max was staying quiet.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
Yeah, But Dan's got a reputation. Dan's so Dan has
a reputation. And I know that as I was getting
messages on the plane flying over there and saying, hey,
I just heard that Dan. Somebody leaked. Dan is going
to be on the show with you watch out for him.
He's ruthless. So that's the only way I knew his name,
(30:36):
but then we became friends and then he murdered me.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
The I want to tell us about this second challenge
because it was colmost like a popularity contest with Cardio.
It seemed like it seemed like it sucked.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
Yeah, So I think the night before we got these
questionnaires in our room and it was basically like who's
most popular? Who's this? Or who do that? And I'm like,
what is this for? Whatever? So we find out the mission,
which was horrible mission for me because I was so
sick and we had to run.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
I was dying, baying why you asked for the puffer?
Speaker 3 (31:11):
Well, no, I asked for the puffer just to be
an asshole. That's why I did it. An asshole. I'm like,
I'm like, oh, and I'm like, hey, this guy. I'm
suspicious of any politician ever, so I'm like, let me
see if he's got the you know, because if he
said he has asthma, then why wouldn't he have an inhaler? Yeah,
(31:31):
he was a trip.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
John was a nice guy.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
He's a nice guy. He's nice. We went back and
forth for a while, but then we ended up liking
each other.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
Not to fast forward too much in the season, but
he says some of the coolest stuff that's ever been
said on Traders. He has uses like a lot of
rhyme schemes and alliteration and stuff that like is top Yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
Well he's very intelligent. And then having that accent, it's
just everything he says just sounds so important.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
It sounds so much better and so much more intelligent,
probably because it is, but he doesn't have like coffee accent,
Like it's just you know, yeah, you just want to
like them better.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
Well, Poverty was so excited that she was chosen to
want to join. Yeah, I mean, I think that's what
she really really wanted. She really wanted that she did.
She did, and I think that they made the right decision.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
Were you guys all thinking, Okay, someone's a faithful that's
going to turn a Trader. Who would it be. Were
you guys thinking about that at all?
Speaker 3 (32:30):
Or Yeah? I mean I think everybody was just hoping
that they would get that letter saying you know, the
Traders want you to join them.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Yeah, what would you have done with that letter?
Speaker 3 (32:42):
I would have been so happy, so so happy. But
I didn't have a choice. I didn't have a chance
at it because I got so sick so soon, so
they're like they thought that I was going to be gone.
So I wasn't even an option. So and plus they
didn't want they don't want two housewives in the as traders.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
What would you have done, Dors?
Speaker 2 (33:02):
I wouldn't have wanted it. I mean, how if you
know what happens.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
I don't think there was. I don't think there was
that you can know.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
No says no, no, but there's one. There was no
option because they only got into.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
So if there was no option, I would have took
it and I would have done my things.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
It's like being tapped on your shoulder and then going, oh, sorry, Alan,
I don't want to be a trader. Sorry somebody else.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
Everybody. Everybody's capable of murder, human nature. You are, and
maybe a bad part of me would have come out,
the cynical part of me that I would have enjoyed
killing people.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
I think you would as I would too.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
I hope to god they do an All Star season
and you go and you have to be a trader.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
They're going to run out of reality people. Eventually they
come back around, baby, yeah, come back around.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
Oh geez, I'm ready for it.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
How did it feel able to catch John and a
lie when he said he didn't have an inhaler? Was it?
Did you feel like you were onto something?
Speaker 3 (34:05):
Or I did? I feel like I was onto something?
And then this brain of mine, as soon as you
feel like you're onto something, then I try to dissect everything,
like you know.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
You're gruthless.
Speaker 3 (34:16):
The way he's looking, the way he's blinking, the way he's.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
Fishing with his hand out like you had I thought it,
I got it. I did.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
I know. I just feel when people lie, like you
know me, I can't frank and stand when people lie?
He lied?
Speaker 1 (34:33):
He did?
Speaker 2 (34:33):
I know you can't? He did?
Speaker 3 (34:35):
He said that he was asthmatic, and then it turned
into well I was asthmatic because I was growing up.
But I don't know if it lasts forever.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
You know what happened. He just got caught off guard
and said whatever he said, and it just stuck.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
I mean, the truth is he's a bit of quirky,
so he probably he heard Alan walk past him and
he's like, go on, is it me? Yeah, of course
that is how you feel.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
By the way the time.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
Did the disappointment when they when he passes by, you
and he doesn't tap on your shoes, like damn it,
damn it, and.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
He goes around so many times where you're like, this
is the time he's gonna tap on me, and then
he goes, dang, why don't you like me? It's like
not being picked a popular enough. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
Yeah, I'm like so offended.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
Yeah, well I show up to the breakfast the next morning, guys,
so it was like that, Really I wasn't gone that long,
just overnight.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
Yeah, overnight, that's what it seemed like.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
I know, but you were missed.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
We get to the round table. So I think this
is such an interesting and like kind of power packed
first round table because I feel like in the beginning,
no one really has anything to go on. But you've
got you catching John and the lie, and then you've
got Trashelle going up against Peppermint. Now we know as
people who have been on the show that those round
(35:56):
tables go much longer than they show on TV. How
long was that one? And like, was there anything that
you recall being cut that was pretty juicy?
Speaker 3 (36:08):
Hm? Hm, yeah. I think Peppermint's exit speech yes, really
chopped up. Really, I'll leave it at that, but yeah,
it was shortened down.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
Was she angry?
Speaker 2 (36:26):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (36:26):
Were they angry? Were they yep?
Speaker 2 (36:29):
Yep?
Speaker 3 (36:29):
She was definitely angry. Just kind of.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
Yeah, lear it out that.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
Wow, But you know, Max stayed strong. He's like, I
don't believe it's Peppermint. I just do not believe it's her.
And he was right.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
And then this is where you see h Deontae start
to really unravel. He is not happy.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
Yeah, yeah, and well they all have a lot of
behind the scenes about his time on the show.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
Yeah, I'm excited to hear your perspective on next. I
remember watching this in preparation for season three and I
almost like, I'm so confused as to what's happening here
and why this person is kind of like unraveling. Obviously
we haven't gotten to that part yet.
Speaker 3 (37:16):
He had a very big outburst, did he at that
at that moment or a few of them later on?
Speaker 2 (37:22):
So was this the catalyst to him starting to say,
I feel bad. I just did something to someone that
didn't deserve it. This is bad from where I come from.
And he's crying and ham was like wipe, I mean
Phage was like wiping his tears.
Speaker 3 (37:36):
Yeah, he's very sensitive. You know, here's this guy that's
basically seven foot tall.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
He's an amazing boxer. He's a very heavy.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
So many times, but and you know, he's got a
special needs child, he has, he's got a few kids,
and he is a very sensitive guy. And I did
tell that, and it hurt his feelings. It really hurt
his feeling that he just emotionally wasn't prepared for this show.
And ultimately that's why he left. He couldn't handle it.
(38:09):
And it's so weird to think because here he is
a heavyweight boxer.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
And he hasn't had it easy, but he's like it
just I think it was a lot of triggering for him.
I have somebody, even though it was a game to
have somebody accused of something they didn't.
Speaker 3 (38:26):
Do well, his trigger is being accused.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
I understand that.
Speaker 3 (38:31):
So later on when we do a challenge, I don't
know it's in the next episode or not, but he
gets accused of something and gets disqualified and he loses it, lose.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
I understand it very very well. And it's again, and
I say this all the time, it's harder to prove
that you're innocent.
Speaker 3 (38:50):
Yeah, yeah, right, It's very true. It's my whole season, right,
now on Lauren on the Housewives.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
So you can vindicate it, right, Yeah, well so good.
Speaker 3 (39:01):
I know, I know, I know it is good.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
Can I ask a question of what it felt like
after the round table, because you know, Trischelle really goes,
you know, hard in the paint after Peppermint. And my
thing is is that if you stick your neck out
to get someone out and then you end up looking
you end up being wrong. It looks very very suspicious.
(39:24):
It was everyone thinking, okay, well, then you're obviously a trader.
You'd led that whole thing against Peppermint.
Speaker 3 (39:30):
Yes, I mean there was suspicion at that point. And
here's the thing, like I would always ride to the
castle with her in the car. We become really good friends,
for sure. Yeah, and she's like Tarama, I literally started
packing up my bags last night. I really thought that
I was going to be murdered. I really really did.
(39:53):
And so she's a shield. At one point she told me,
I don't remember where we were in the game, and
I thought, she's she's a faithful Like she's not going
to sit there. We're not even filming right now, We're
getting into the car.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
Like did she get in trouble for talking, because you
get in trouble for that talk like that.
Speaker 3 (40:12):
No, we weren't even in the car yet, I believe.
I think we were still in the hotel lobby waiting
to be picked up. And she's like, I seriously packed
last night. I thought for sure, I think or no,
I packed last night. I think for sure I'm gone today.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
Oh well she wasn't. She wasn't.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
So no, No, she's a good player, and she did
feel bad. She felt bad, but you know, at the
beginning of the game, you don't know, somebody's got to
be first, right, first first to be banished?
Speaker 2 (40:41):
Yeah, but did poor wels? But did anybody like say
something to her regarding that, like why did you do that?
Or anything? Was anybody angry with her for leading the
Max was?
Speaker 3 (40:54):
He's just kind of like he said, like, you guys
are all what do you say? Called him all sheep
or something?
Speaker 2 (41:00):
Yeah, I like it.
Speaker 3 (41:03):
He was a little annoyed with it because and even
when they showed the flashback, Peppermint didn't make that big
of a deal.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
Yeah right, she just jumped on it. And Charat was
mad too. Charay did not like it.
Speaker 3 (41:14):
She didn't like it. But let me just tell you
Peppermint's personality is a little over the top. She was
very like you knew when she came into the room,
like she demanded attention anyone she walked into.
Speaker 2 (41:28):
You know, she got up, she sashy over.
Speaker 3 (41:31):
Oh, I remember watching that.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
You're gonna maybe die from my looks, but not from
me being a trader. And then Poverty did the corneas thing.
She goes watch and I then I didn't like Poverty
after that.
Speaker 3 (41:47):
Well, I mean it's it's a great two episodes. Yeah,
and I forgot how good it is.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
It really really is. And then this one I remember
so much more than the first one, Like I know,
you know, Pilot Pete's whole kind of saga is fantastic
coming forward, like coming up, and can we talk about.
Speaker 3 (42:08):
Pilot Pete for a minute. So I don't know who
he was. He's so nice, he's super nice, good looking nice.
And yesterday he did a like collab with something I
can't remember, Oh, with the face mask, you know, the
led face mask.
Speaker 1 (42:23):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, And you know.
Speaker 3 (42:25):
He acts like he's coming in from a flight. He
gets a hotel room, he takes his uniform off and
he plops into bed.
Speaker 2 (42:31):
Oh, stop.
Speaker 3 (42:33):
And then I thought, if I got on a flight
and it was pilot Pete find.
Speaker 2 (42:38):
Me, I would be like, nope, no, nope, right, he's
really good. Though, he's really good.
Speaker 3 (42:48):
I'm sure, but you see somebody as a different way.
And when I get on a plane, I listen to
the pilot's voice. If they you know, when they talk
make an announcement, I'm like, okay, just by his voice,
I trust him. I'm just a weird flyer. I'm like,
I couldn't imagine having Pilot Pete walk out and never.
Speaker 2 (43:08):
Star. That is hysterical.
Speaker 1 (43:11):
Well, I'll be okay with it because he he ends
up being really smart on the show, and I want
my pilots to be smart.
Speaker 2 (43:18):
I know, I know he is very smart.
Speaker 3 (43:21):
But do you want do you want your doctor? You're
going to the doctor and you're like, oh, you were
on Reality Star.
Speaker 2 (43:32):
Well I will say I did dated doctor and he
was on reality to me, and.
Speaker 3 (43:36):
Some people did say that, Yeah. Really, I'm talking like
I'm not talking a plastic surgeon. I'm talking like I'm.
Speaker 2 (43:43):
Talking about high risk pregnancies.
Speaker 3 (43:45):
Heart doctor, proctologist, urologist.
Speaker 2 (43:50):
Hurrytologist, yes, anything, but listen, you can't say that a
doctor isn't great. I mean, look at look at the bros.
Speaker 3 (44:02):
I know, but to Bro's been on you know, he's
been on many reality shows. He he was the original
doctor on the Swan like and that was thirty years ago.
Speaker 2 (44:13):
Wow, that's crazy. They should good in Traders.
Speaker 3 (44:17):
They should put Terry on Traders. Oh my god, that
would be great.
Speaker 2 (44:21):
He could.
Speaker 3 (44:21):
There's no way he's You think he would take a
month off of everything he does that makes some millions
to go on Traders. I would be shocked. I would
be he is so busy.
Speaker 1 (44:31):
Well, I'm excited to latch episodes three and four for
next week. Last thing, tam ud give us a tease
for what we can expect for the next episodes.
Speaker 3 (44:44):
Oh god, I just watched it as if I watched
it for the first time. You think I have a
memory of what's to come up? I mean definitely. And
I only made it to think episode five, So really
till I only got two good episodes left in me?
Speaker 2 (45:04):
I know?
Speaker 3 (45:05):
To how many?
Speaker 1 (45:06):
Did you make one too?
Speaker 3 (45:09):
I doubled that.
Speaker 2 (45:10):
I'm just gonna be quiet.
Speaker 1 (45:12):
Yeah, be quiet, Laura? What right? You the winner? Anyways,
everyone out there, thank you so much. For listening to
By Order of the Faithfuls. If you can go follow
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(45:33):
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Speaker 3 (45:52):
Yeah, we're just going you guys rapped up for the
new season that's coming out in January. So we are
getting but.
Speaker 2 (45:58):
A lot of people and I've been asking around and
I've been all over the place. As of today, when
I was in Brazil, heavy trader fan base there. They
don't know about us. So we have to somehow get
the word out about this By Order of the Faithfuls.
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Speaker 1 (46:23):
Absolutely all right, We'll see all you traders and faithfuls
next week. See you guys, bie I
Welcome all you Traders and Faithfuls too. By order of
the Faithfuls Season two, Episode one and two. I'm wells Adams.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
I'm alongside Tama, Judge and Dolores.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
No, we really should have Tamra be doing the intro
of this, because.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
By Tamra, this is your girl. Okay, it's so weird, guys,
because you know, I'm not. I don't really like watching
myself like most people are on TV, and guys like
watching well, do you like watching yourself?
Speaker 1 (00:35):
I will love watching myself on Paradise. I hate I
hated watching myself on Traders.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Really. I find that men, you know, like me and
Heather de Brow have this conversation because Terry has a show,
and she's like, oh, he loves watching himself and laughing.
Same thing with Eddie, same thing with it all. Yeah, God,
it's guy. It's a guy thing.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
They're like all like the first of you all just show.
Everyone knows. I never watched the show until I started
dating Paul.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Oh he made me watch it. What Traders?
Speaker 2 (01:06):
No Housewives?
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Well you were on Housewives? You were on Housewives? Do
you mean other franchises? No?
Speaker 2 (01:13):
I never watched myself.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Oh I see that's what we were saying, like.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
I don't like to watch myself. One. I hate to
hear myself. I don't like to watch myself.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Oh if I hear my voice from the other room
and Eddie's watching a clip of something, I'm like, turn.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
It down, same, same and handle it.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
But I'll tell you like, watching it really brought me
back to being in Scotland. And first of all, I
was like, shit, man, I should have had some botox
and you better make it. I was so sick. I
was so sick.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
God.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
But it was like I was watching it for the
first time.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Can we get some behind the scenes on this, because yes,
it does seem like you're not there a whole lot
in episode one, because I assume it's because you're sick
to talk us through it, you fly to Inverness, you
get over there, I assume you film like half of
day one.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
And so our our.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
First episode took three or four days. Really, yes, so
I was actually out four full days.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
That's a lot there. They do a lot in that time.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
So in those four days, they filmed a couple of
things at the castle a couple of days, and we
had our press day where we took pictures.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Oh, I forgot about that.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
So I missed all that. So I those three or
four days I was out, I had no voice. I
couldn't even talk like I was. I sound like a
seal when I was trying to talk, and so just
so unbelievably sick. Yeah, I filmed the first day and
that night I'm like, oh my god, I don't feel well.
(02:50):
And by the next morning I was out, just like oh,
feeling ache the worst, probably the It felt like the
worst fluid ever had in my entire life.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
If anyone else get sick.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
On well not I don't know about the cast, but
you know how we have security guards outside. Yeah, so
the day would have to and this is the worst part.
They don't let you have your medicine. You have to
It's like being in jail. You have to ask for
your medicine. So if I woke up at two in
the morning and I don't have a phone, so I
(03:23):
have to get out of bed, which I could barely walk,
go down the hall and usually security guards sleeping in
the middle of the night out there, and be like,
I need my medicine. Then I got away for him
to go get it and bring it to me, so
he goes, yeah, he goes, it's COVID. He goes, I
know it's COVID because I had it, my wife had it,
and a lot of the security guards had it too,
(03:46):
and they were all in my room unpacking my clothes
when I got there, going through my shit, trying to
find something. And yeah, so that's where I got it
the first night I got there.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Do you think that they dragged production to be three
days to film one because you were sick and they
were hoping that you'd get back hope.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
I don't know. I never got an answer to that.
I never even asked the question. But how long did
it take you guys to film your first episode?
Speaker 1 (04:12):
I feel like it was two days to Loris rev.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Yeah, yeah, I'd say I'd say it was two days,
but you know, maybe they get quicker every year.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Yeah, well they changed things every year. But I was
out a good three or four days, and I remember
the psychologists came in and said, listen, if you don't
go back tomorrow, you're going to have to go home.
First producers told me that. Then the therapist came in
and told me that, and they're like, you know what,
you have such an advantage because people aren't thinking about
you because you've been sick and all this stuff, and
(04:42):
I'm they talked you into it.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Yes, well I wanted to go back, honestly, go all
the way there, not to film.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Yeah, I mean could you imagine one all the way
there and being so I wouldn't have been able to
fly home because I was so sick.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Did you have to pass a COVID test before you
came back?
Speaker 3 (04:57):
No, they didn't even give me one.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Wow, I think.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
It's four days. Well, now as the like, if you
have it for four days, you could go back to
work after that, because you you can test positive for
months after. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Yeah, I filmed a season of Paradise in the middle
of the in the middle of COVID, and we had
a completely closed set and we had to get tested
every single day.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
Yeah, well we did that. When I came back to
Housewives three years ago. We were tested every single time,
like every three days. Every three days, we had to
be tested. And there's girls that got COVID and didn't
have not one symptom. And I remember one year Emily
couldn't go on a cast trip. She's like, I'm fine.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Doesn't matter, I know ye, well if somebody else could
not be fine.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Yeah, yeah, let's get into season two. This is Tamras season.
You know, I like that you say people know you
as a calculate I heard.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
People think it's so funny because people think I'm this
calculated housewife that digs up information and I'm like, no,
not any Usually information comes to me and I you know,
there's not a whole lot of calculation going on.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
When you said that, is people that because you understand
it's not well housewives watching the show. There's a lot
of gamer people watching the show that have never watched Housewives.
We knew what that meant so well, and people that
watch Housewives Housewives friens like yeah, camera, and then other
people were like why is probably like why the hell
(06:37):
is she saying that about herself?
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Yeah? Well, and then also like on the show, I'm
the one that always figures things out, like I if
somebody's lying, I'm like the truth teller. If somebody's lying,
I'll figure you out in two seconds.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Yeah, you you thought that John was lying and went
pretty hard in on him, right, didn't you? Like, do
you with the asthma? You're not asthmatic? You liar?
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Well, she baited him. Tamma baited him. She's like, oh,
anybody gotta puffer.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Yeah, well he this bit, I know what he had
said at the roundtable. He's like, well, I am smartly
asmatic and as a kid, you know, he's going on
and on and on, and so I.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Had suspicion annoying breather.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
But also you have to you guys know this, Like
at the very beginning, you're looking for any side. Somebody's
eye goes to the left and their cock eyed. You're like, oh,
he's a trader.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Yeah. Well you're also trying to just deflect any energy
away from you, right, So anyone else that you can
blob onto, then great, that's what you gotta do.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
I was truly afraid that I was going to go
in there and people are gonna be like, oh, she's
been playing the housewife game four years. Okay, she's calculated,
she can manipulate. And honestly, I thought, because I had
been on Housewives so long, that I could like this
would be easy, and it wasn't.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Wasn't. It's a totally different animal because those people, the
people on the show are not playing themselves and housewives.
They're playing themselves. We know their history, we know their relationships,
we know how they've treated other people, how they've been
with other friends. We're meeting people that are not really
true to themselves in the game. That's not who they
(08:27):
really are. Boston Robb is not a natural born killer.
He's an actually lovely family man, you know. Yeah. Yeah,
So that's where I got thrown off. I don't know
about you.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Well, it's interesting to see the different types of television
stars there, right. So you have you know, people of
your ILK, which is this Housewives, people who are just
like really good at making television. And then you have
the MTV crew, right, like you have CT Trachelle And I.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
Never even heard of that show ever in my life.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
So I love that show going into Trade or something,
so excited when West showed up. But you're right, Delorus,
it's like those guys one, they're good at making TV,
and they're good also like the political game of like
not really showing you who they are, but kind of
manipulating you in a certain way, and you.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Don't know them, right. So that's when I answered Andy
on the reunion when I said, He's like, how could
you not have picked them? I go I'm not used
to people lying, and he just looked at me, like,
what are you talking about? Yeah, I'm not used to
people making believe there's something they're not because you you
just know what they are. When you're in housewives world,
(09:37):
you know this person's what she is in this one
at right, Tamra, you know who everybody basically is.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
And then you have the Survivor people right you about
Poverty and Sandra, they were on the same season Survivor.
They also they don't get along the same way that
like Johnny Bananas in CT doesn't get along. So in
her interview, Fade has this amazing line where she realizes
that she's surrounded by a bunch of people who like
went on Survivor and eat rattlesnakes, and she just says
(10:08):
she glamps.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Yeah. So the funny thing is they might be on
Survivor and eat rattlesnakes, but some housewives would eat their
own young at this point, So I don't know why
I Padra would even think that that she did still
didn't have the advantage dealing with some housewives and the
way they can go on.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
Yeah, the only people that I knew going into it
was the Housewives and Max from Dance with the Stars.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Oh you know Max. He seemed nice.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Yeah, what was he like? Tell me about him?
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Because he was like quiet, he was on his own,
nobody really clicked.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
Well, yeah he was, and then that comes to bite
him in the ass.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
But he was.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
I've done a couple of charity events and I've met
him through child Help and he's not really he's really
big into the organization. So it was my really close girlfriend,
so I met him there. He probably didn't remember, but uh,
he was very quiet the very first day. He walked
around very quiet, just staring at people, didn't talk too much.
(11:09):
And then you see him change a little bits as
it goes on. So I don't know if he's just
somebody that needs to warm up or at first, I'm like, God,
this guy's kind of an asshole.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Because he wasn't like gregarious, and he wasn't.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
He just wasn't talking to anybody.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
He was just kind of noticed, was kind of on
by himself. But did anyone try to like bring him
into conversations or bring him into a click or he
I just think he felt like he didn't fit in
because he hadn't He really didn't.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
He didn't fit in and I And that's basically what
it felt like. And I think that he was kind
of like, why am I here? I don't want to
be here, walking.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
In and out of rooms, and he just didn't feel
like comfortable. I felt like he didn't feel comfortable. I
happened to like him, Oh, I love it as a person.
I think he's lovely.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
I've seen him a few times and sense since we
were filmed together, and he's just a really nice, good
family guy.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Yeah. And I think sometimes some of the gamers here
were a little cocky.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
And by the way and extremely intelligent.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
You know what it was maybe with him, I don't
think he grooved to the gamer like Macheese moo, like
they kind of have this attitude about them.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
No, like they're repo guys. Yeah, Bananas, it looks like
a reap.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
And I feel like, maybe you know that, maybe Max
felt that way too.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Okay, So I can I can speak from experience with
Johnny Bananas because I did a television show with him.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Oh, tell Us, tell Us and so like.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
So I So I'm asking you, Tamar, because I want
to get your perspective on it, because so I did
Worst Cooks in America. I did the entire show is
I went to the finals against Johnny Bananas. So I
did an entire season with the guy, and I remember
the first three episodes. I was like, this guy is
the most annoying person I've ever had to do a
(13:15):
television show with. He word I know, I know, especially
from the shows that I come from.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
I know.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
He won't stop talking. He's yelling, he's like just taking
all that.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Why that's why he's gone.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
Yes, I'll tell you what.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
I'll tell you behind the scenes what he did.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Yeah, so so real quick. So I the first three
days I hated him, And at the end of it,
I was like, you're so good at this, Like I
totally understand why you're so good on TV because you're
doing this and and people love you. But in my mind,
I'm sitting there thinking they killed him because they were
annoyed by him. That was my initial thought.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
Well, Alan was annoyed by him. So so what happened was,
you know, when you walk into the roundtable for the
very first time, and you're they're gonna pick so you know,
there's a pile of gold coins sitting there the prop
he grabs some and put them in his jacket pocket.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Very funny, by the way, Yeah, I don't think that's funny.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
And then he's cheesy and then they cut it out.
But then then he pulls it out and Alan was mad. Yeah,
He's like, don't don't touch my stuff, like put it back.
So he was really kind of annoyed with them. But
you know, you saw when he sat down with Alan,
what did he say, how does it feel to be
the second best dress? Like he he came.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
He sat on the second best dress and he said,
back off, bitch.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
Yeah, Alan goes back off, bitch.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
So he came in like that. Of course that's his
I is known.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
For roan to love him Johnny Bananas, I really have.
I We went to watch phaedor with Dancing with the
Stars and he was there, and he's just such a
nice guy. He really is, I'm sure.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Like I said again, my point to my point in
the beginning is they are actors and actresses. We are
used to unscripted TV, and they morph into a character
where they try to be some of them there not
to get people to trust them, which I was not
aware of. Now I know. Yeah, well, yes, say, he's
not that much of a jerk.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
I didn't watch the challenge, but I'm assuming this is
his TV persona.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
Yeah, yeah, because I spent a lot of time with
him offset you know, like we'd finished filming and then
we'd go get drinks and stuff, and he was a
different guy. He is very sure of himself, and he
is a cocky guy, but not like he is on TV.
And I remember because I just am who I am
all the time. That's like usually my I mean, maybe
(15:44):
I'm a little turned up like an interview, but for
the most part, I just am who I am. And
I remember being like, oh wow, this is wild. You
are so so turned up when you see the red
light on the camera, and it's just something I've just
experienced it.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
It proves that you can't have your TV persona. You
can't bring that all ways. It doesn't always work bringing
it onto traders, because then it just puts a target
on you.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Yeah, but then, right, but annoying people do do last.
Sometimes it's just because of he was loud. This happened
to Reza Reza season one, episode one, during the challenge.
You know, he wasn't I feel like Johnny Bananas wasn't
nice to people during the first challenge, Like he was like,
(16:30):
you're making a slag behind, Like, I don't like that
kind of thing.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Do you know what my first interaction was with Johnny Bananas?
You know, when you're in the car and you're doing
a caravan and you're going to the castle for the
very first time. Yes, Well, something happened to one of
the cars and I don't know if it was the one.
I think it might've been the one he was in.
Something happened, it broke down or something, or got a
flat tire, can't remember. And he gets out and he
(16:56):
comes up to the window and like starts being me
off or us off, all of us off. I'm like,
who is this douche?
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Got it?
Speaker 3 (17:06):
But I've learned to love that Douche's he's a really
nice say see, you can learn to love someone if
they're really sincerely good inside.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
But we really didn't get to see that. And they've
never brought him back being that he was.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
Oh they they asked him back, Oh tell me, did
Tamera with the tea? They did? And he I think
he was, he declined. I think he was filming the challenge.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Yeah, it was supposed to be our season Loloris. They
asked him for season three. Oh okay, because I had
talked to him beforehand and he was like, yeah, I
think I might come and I was like, great, I
know you. I'm excited about this. And then I think
that he went too far in the challenge to be
able to get there in time.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
I would love to Sho come back, but he was.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
It was always next season.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
He was a little bitter. He was bitter when he
got kicked off. He was on on the Gram, he
was on Twitter, he was talking shit. He hated Dan.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Yeah, at least he did cry. If he were to cried,
I would have punched him right in his face through
the screen when I was watching this. I'd better not
see this bitch cry.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
He has made a career out of reality TV. Isn't
that crazy?
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Most of them have.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Yeah, he's been on like twenty something years. But he's
also expanded and he's he started a gym in Florida,
so he's doing and he's got merch and stuff like that.
So March so much merch. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
So this is a fun season to watch the beginning
of because Alan picks two traders in Dan and Phaedra,
who Fadre is such a good pick. I'm not sure
to show sure how I feel about Dan, but it's
fun that immediately it's like, but you guys get to
pick your third and I almost feel like I almost
(18:45):
feel like the traders do a better job of picking
traders than Alan does picking traders.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
Well, you know what's funny is I did watching it back.
I didn't remember that he only picked two and then
there was one recruit and uh, you know how Larsa
came out and said she heard and I heard him
tap on Dan. Yeah, I heard his jacket move and
he and I and I'm like when she said that,
(19:14):
I'm like, I heard that, but who knows that?
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Yeah, you don't know, but I think that Poverty was
a great pick.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
It's such a good pick.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
Well, she's just so good at this stuff, she really is.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
So you have to under like, I think Alan moves
his coat multiple times to make people think that. Maybe
you think he throws people off with that because people
are like, I heard your jacket, So he might do
it on purpose.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
He might. He might.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
It would make sense to because that's what they do.
But you know, I had to feel about a couple
being on here. That's what I want to know.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Yeah, that would be hard for me to do.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
I think, Yeah, I didn't love that they had Larsa
and Marcus on together, and I don't like public displays
of affection. So when they like made out, I.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Don't like love.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
By the way, it was all.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
The time, guys come, I would vomit, and that would
throw my mind off the game. I don't want to
see people make out. Look at how it ended anyway,
But I don't think that this game has any place
for that kind of nonsense. Because your head is why
you're laughing at me while you think I'm a cynical person.
(20:28):
Do you when it comes to relationships and love with
your beautiful writing picture behind you, take it down? Just stop.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
I need to put mine up too to make sure
that's all.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
I will just stop, both of you with your pictures
behind your oh my God podcast.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
I will tell you in the same room.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
No, no, So come on, how they last that long
without poking each other?
Speaker 3 (20:54):
They were all over each other. And by the way,
Marcus was just the nicest guy. He really was. But
he's always been nice to me, and he's DMed me
and said nice, saying since then, really, you're really digging
your hole, right, So what was I going to say? Oh,
so you know when you get there and then I
don't know if you guys had to do this, but
you know they stagger people coming in, but if you're
(21:15):
one of the first people to come in, you got
to stay in your room for three days before the
show starts. So they they were in the room then,
and then as soon as this show started, they had
they got separate rooms.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
I can imagine what's going on. The black light. Take
the black light in that room home start.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
No, No, she would tell me.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
With the black Heart, we got to get her laid everybody.
I think, So I'm hearing so funny.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
No, I'm in a beautiful relationship. I'm just saying, like
these other people that just have to be just kissing
all the time.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
Yeah, I don't want to hear it and I don't
want to see it. But I will have to say,
out of all the missions, I was very happy that
I didn't have to do this one.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Yeah, I was thinking, oh crazy in the water. I'm like,
thank god Tam doesn't have to be there for that.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
I would have had pneumonia, you know, Yeah, for sure.
And it's very telling in the first ioway, I mean,
this is something that I did stand true with. I
was able to tell who I was going to like
from the first mission and how they were with being
part of the game and being like helping the other person.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
So you love Janelle. You thought she was a real
team player.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Oh yeah, unlike this one. I don't trust her. I'm
not trust in her. I just and and I heard
somebody say, yeah, go for it, and I was like, no,
how the other person get onto hide? But that's me.
I can't fault somebody else because they make out with
each other. And I can't be like, fault someone else
(22:52):
for being selfish.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
It's just you know, yeah, well Janelle was there to win,
that's for sure, not to make friends. She made that
quite clear.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Yeah, And you know, I find like I wonder if
that's a true trait in them, like even in real life,
like are you a is there a selfish component to you?
Maybe like the way not you. But I'm saying, like
the person that plays the game like that, are they
really like that in real life?
Speaker 3 (23:18):
I feel like they are because I think gamers are
such different people.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
But it also I don't like that it gives you
an insight about how they'll react if they get to
the end, right, Like someone like that who has no
care about anyone else's issue. I never forgot that is
at the end going to be like I'm gonna try
to screw over as many people as possible to get
the most amount of money. If this is how I'm
acting in the beginning, right.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
So my advice would be to someone going on to
the Traders as a new person now and like a
new season or even people watching it, pay very close
attention to how people play the game in the beginning.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
The first they didn't miss they were not happy with
you now, like she is the first one. Yeah, no,
she was the first one to get you know, untied.
They were all tied up, and she didn't help anybody.
She ran.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
She would liked her.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
Guy, didn't she get the shield?
Speaker 2 (24:13):
She got it? Yeah, And I want you to know
I would not like her for the rest of my
time there.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
For you would like her for the rest of your life.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
No done. I actually, right now watching it pissed me off.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
The Traders have to make two decisions, right, They've got
to decide who they're going to recruit. They go with Parvey,
which I think is a very very very good choice.
And then they've got to make a kill and they
go with Johnny Bananas. He got a good choice, I think,
a good choice. But I also think it's the show
is not at its popularity like it is now in
(24:53):
the beginning of season two, right, and getting rid of
such a big star. I'm sure production was annoyed by that.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Absolutely, Yeah, absolutely, I don't think that I would have
kicked them off.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
That's but they're not playing for the production of it,
and they're not thinking in that tour it what's the
show going to look like when it airs. I didn't
think of that the whole time I was there.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
No, you don't, because I don't know about your season.
Production is not involved. You don't see them except for
when we're on brakes and they tell you to shut
the f up when you're trying to talk game. Wait
for the cameras. Wait for the cameras. They do not interfere.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
No, you get exactly camera, and so you don't realize
you're not thinking about what it's going to look like.
You know, the whole time we're filming Housewives wells. I
don't know if you know this, but we're thinking about
how our lives are going to end once the season airs.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Yeah, so I get that. You know why production is
so hands off though, no, do you? Yeah? And I
really only learned this because Bachelor and Paradise this last
season turned from a relationship show to a game show.
And the second that money's involved, you have, like I
think it's it's like standards and practices or businesses and practices.
(26:13):
There's there's someone who has to be there to be
observing production, make sure they're not manipulating cast to change
the outcome of the end of the game. So if
they're yeah, so you could effectively be like I want
so and so to win because I had a conversation
with him beforehand, and he's gonna give me half the money,
so I'm going to you know.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
Yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
So it's legal and ethical. Yeah, that's why. Holy shit.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
Well, okay, I want to ask you, Tamra. You know,
Trischelle Harps on Peppermint's weird reaction. Is that something that
you picked up on or like, were you honed in
on that?
Speaker 3 (26:52):
No, I was, I don't.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
I don't really there that.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
I don't think I was in the room when that happened.
But honestly, that early in the game, you really have
to like you're going off with nothing. I think I
even say that, like everybody suspicious. And then I wasn't
going to vote for Peppermint. I was going to vote
for Dan. No really no, not Dan the politician John,
(27:16):
sorry John John, Dan, Dave whatever. So I was going
to vote for John. And then when it came out
you know that Peppermint called herself a trader in the kitchen,
I'm like, okay, I got to vote for her.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
And it was the and it was the popular vote.
And then again in the beginning, what do you do?
You go with the popular vote, because when you have
no clue, you're just like, well, this is what I'm
going to do. But off camera when this aired, what
was it, Trishall was it? She got got death threats,
(27:54):
she got bullied online, she got hammered.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
I'll never forget. Like I was in Big Bear and
she's like, you call me and I'm like yeah. She's like,
I haven't been on TV in a long time, Like
is this normal? Like our world girl, horrible horrible things?
And I said, oh, yes, that's just totally normal. If
you get a death threat, Then you're doing something wrong
in our industry.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
I'm stopping a pussy. Stop it stopper, little old death threat.
Never hurt anybody. Get on with yourself.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
Yeah, but it was interesting to see that they, you know,
the the traders need to recruit somebody, and the people
that they were talking about was Larsa, Parvety, Sandra Janelle
for recruitment.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
I mean, so poverty was in there.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
They wantanted a girl. Obviously they're all girls.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
I would have thought like Larsa.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
I would have thought Cet. I would have thought, you know, Bananas.
I would have thought somebody like that.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
But Banana's right murdered.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
So that was they decided who to recruit before they
decided who to murder.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Yeah, Johnny, he would have been so obvious, like he
did not have long he had no longevity in this game. Well,
he was just from the start. I have to say.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
I think he was probably pissed off that he wasn't
a trader in the very beginning. That pissed him off.
And then I think if he was recruited, he would
have to change his personality completely.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
I don't think he could, I know, so then if
he changed then he'd be a mark. He would have
been a mark. He would have been banished very soon
in the game. I don't think he would have lasted.
I just don't.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
But also as a trader, you can also think the
way we can recruit someone who can be a sacrificial
and to keep the heat off of us, right, And
they even kind of brought that up. They were like, well,
you know a lot of people already think so that
might be, that might be a good look.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
You know, I don't soon for the heat to be
on though, right, But.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
You know what's funny is that Dan thinks the heats
on it like that. That's why in that second challenge,
she's like, I need the shield because everyone's already talking
about me because I don't make I don't talk a lot.
I stay quiet.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
Yeah, so I went about Max.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
Max was staying quiet.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
Yeah, But Dan's got a reputation. Dan's so Dan has
a reputation. And I know that as I was getting
messages on the plane flying over there and saying, hey,
I just heard that Dan. Somebody leaked. Dan is going
to be on the show with you watch out for him.
He's ruthless. So that's the only way I knew his name,
(30:36):
but then we became friends and then he murdered me.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
The I want to tell us about this second challenge
because it was colmost like a popularity contest with Cardio.
It seemed like it seemed like it sucked.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
Yeah, So I think the night before we got these
questionnaires in our room and it was basically like who's
most popular? Who's this? Or who do that? And I'm like,
what is this for? Whatever? So we find out the mission,
which was horrible mission for me because I was so
sick and we had to run.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
I was dying, baying why you asked for the puffer?
Speaker 3 (31:11):
Well, no, I asked for the puffer just to be
an asshole. That's why I did it. An asshole. I'm like,
I'm like, oh, and I'm like, hey, this guy. I'm
suspicious of any politician ever, so I'm like, let me
see if he's got the you know, because if he
said he has asthma, then why wouldn't he have an inhaler? Yeah,
(31:31):
he was a trip.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
John was a nice guy.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
He's a nice guy. He's nice. We went back and
forth for a while, but then we ended up liking
each other.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
Not to fast forward too much in the season, but
he says some of the coolest stuff that's ever been
said on Traders. He has uses like a lot of
rhyme schemes and alliteration and stuff that like is top Yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
Well he's very intelligent. And then having that accent, it's
just everything he says just sounds so important.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
It sounds so much better and so much more intelligent,
probably because it is, but he doesn't have like coffee accent,
Like it's just you know, yeah, you just want to
like them better.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
Well, Poverty was so excited that she was chosen to
want to join. Yeah, I mean, I think that's what
she really really wanted. She really wanted that she did.
She did, and I think that they made the right decision.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
Were you guys all thinking, Okay, someone's a faithful that's
going to turn a Trader. Who would it be. Were
you guys thinking about that at all?
Speaker 3 (32:30):
Or Yeah? I mean I think everybody was just hoping
that they would get that letter saying you know, the
Traders want you to join them.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Yeah, what would you have done with that letter?
Speaker 3 (32:42):
I would have been so happy, so so happy. But
I didn't have a choice. I didn't have a chance
at it because I got so sick so soon, so
they're like they thought that I was going to be gone.
So I wasn't even an option. So and plus they
didn't want they don't want two housewives in the as traders.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
What would you have done, Dors?
Speaker 2 (33:02):
I wouldn't have wanted it. I mean, how if you
know what happens.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
I don't think there was. I don't think there was
that you can know.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
No says no, no, but there's one. There was no
option because they only got into.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
So if there was no option, I would have took
it and I would have done my things.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
It's like being tapped on your shoulder and then going, oh, sorry, Alan,
I don't want to be a trader. Sorry somebody else.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
Everybody. Everybody's capable of murder, human nature. You are, and
maybe a bad part of me would have come out,
the cynical part of me that I would have enjoyed
killing people.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
I think you would as I would too.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
I hope to god they do an All Star season
and you go and you have to be a trader.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
They're going to run out of reality people. Eventually they
come back around, baby, yeah, come back around.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
Oh geez, I'm ready for it.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
How did it feel able to catch John and a
lie when he said he didn't have an inhaler? Was it?
Did you feel like you were onto something?
Speaker 3 (34:05):
Or I did? I feel like I was onto something?
And then this brain of mine, as soon as you
feel like you're onto something, then I try to dissect everything,
like you know.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
You're gruthless.
Speaker 3 (34:16):
The way he's looking, the way he's blinking, the way he's.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
Fishing with his hand out like you had I thought it,
I got it. I did.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
I know. I just feel when people lie, like you
know me, I can't frank and stand when people lie?
He lied?
Speaker 1 (34:33):
He did?
Speaker 2 (34:33):
I know you can't? He did?
Speaker 3 (34:35):
He said that he was asthmatic, and then it turned
into well I was asthmatic because I was growing up.
But I don't know if it lasts forever.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
You know what happened. He just got caught off guard
and said whatever he said, and it just stuck.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
I mean, the truth is he's a bit of quirky,
so he probably he heard Alan walk past him and
he's like, go on, is it me? Yeah, of course
that is how you feel.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
By the way the time.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
Did the disappointment when they when he passes by, you
and he doesn't tap on your shoes, like damn it,
damn it, and.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
He goes around so many times where you're like, this
is the time he's gonna tap on me, and then
he goes, dang, why don't you like me? It's like
not being picked a popular enough. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
Yeah, I'm like so offended.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
Yeah, well I show up to the breakfast the next morning, guys,
so it was like that, Really I wasn't gone that long,
just overnight.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
Yeah, overnight, that's what it seemed like.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
I know, but you were missed.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
We get to the round table. So I think this
is such an interesting and like kind of power packed
first round table because I feel like in the beginning,
no one really has anything to go on. But you've
got you catching John and the lie, and then you've
got Trashelle going up against Peppermint. Now we know as
people who have been on the show that those round
(35:56):
tables go much longer than they show on TV. How
long was that one? And like, was there anything that
you recall being cut that was pretty juicy?
Speaker 3 (36:08):
Hm? Hm, yeah. I think Peppermint's exit speech yes, really
chopped up. Really, I'll leave it at that, but yeah,
it was shortened down.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
Was she angry?
Speaker 2 (36:26):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (36:26):
Were they angry? Were they yep?
Speaker 2 (36:29):
Yep?
Speaker 3 (36:29):
She was definitely angry. Just kind of.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
Yeah, lear it out that.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
Wow, But you know, Max stayed strong. He's like, I
don't believe it's Peppermint. I just do not believe it's her.
And he was right.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
And then this is where you see h Deontae start
to really unravel. He is not happy.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
Yeah, yeah, and well they all have a lot of
behind the scenes about his time on the show.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
Yeah, I'm excited to hear your perspective on next. I
remember watching this in preparation for season three and I
almost like, I'm so confused as to what's happening here
and why this person is kind of like unraveling. Obviously
we haven't gotten to that part yet.
Speaker 3 (37:16):
He had a very big outburst, did he at that
at that moment or a few of them later on?
Speaker 2 (37:22):
So was this the catalyst to him starting to say,
I feel bad. I just did something to someone that
didn't deserve it. This is bad from where I come from.
And he's crying and ham was like wipe, I mean
Phage was like wiping his tears.
Speaker 3 (37:36):
Yeah, he's very sensitive. You know, here's this guy that's
basically seven foot tall.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
He's an amazing boxer. He's a very heavy.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
So many times, but and you know, he's got a
special needs child, he has, he's got a few kids,
and he is a very sensitive guy. And I did
tell that, and it hurt his feelings. It really hurt
his feeling that he just emotionally wasn't prepared for this show.
And ultimately that's why he left. He couldn't handle it.
(38:09):
And it's so weird to think because here he is
a heavyweight boxer.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
And he hasn't had it easy, but he's like it
just I think it was a lot of triggering for him.
I have somebody, even though it was a game to
have somebody accused of something they didn't.
Speaker 3 (38:26):
Do well, his trigger is being accused.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
I understand that.
Speaker 3 (38:31):
So later on when we do a challenge, I don't
know it's in the next episode or not, but he
gets accused of something and gets disqualified and he loses it, lose.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
I understand it very very well. And it's again, and
I say this all the time, it's harder to prove
that you're innocent.
Speaker 3 (38:50):
Yeah, yeah, right, It's very true. It's my whole season, right,
now on Lauren on the Housewives.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
So you can vindicate it, right, Yeah, well so good.
Speaker 3 (39:01):
I know, I know, I know it is good.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
Can I ask a question of what it felt like
after the round table, because you know, Trischelle really goes,
you know, hard in the paint after Peppermint. And my
thing is is that if you stick your neck out
to get someone out and then you end up looking
you end up being wrong. It looks very very suspicious.
(39:24):
It was everyone thinking, okay, well, then you're obviously a trader.
You'd led that whole thing against Peppermint.
Speaker 3 (39:30):
Yes, I mean there was suspicion at that point. And
here's the thing, like I would always ride to the
castle with her in the car. We become really good friends,
for sure. Yeah, and she's like Tarama, I literally started
packing up my bags last night. I really thought that
I was going to be murdered. I really really did.
(39:53):
And so she's a shield. At one point she told me,
I don't remember where we were in the game, and
I thought, she's she's a faithful Like she's not going
to sit there. We're not even filming right now, We're
getting into the car.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
Like did she get in trouble for talking, because you
get in trouble for that talk like that.
Speaker 3 (40:12):
No, we weren't even in the car yet, I believe.
I think we were still in the hotel lobby waiting
to be picked up. And she's like, I seriously packed
last night. I thought for sure, I think or no,
I packed last night. I think for sure I'm gone today.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
Oh well she wasn't. She wasn't.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
So no, No, she's a good player, and she did
feel bad. She felt bad, but you know, at the
beginning of the game, you don't know, somebody's got to
be first, right, first first to be banished?
Speaker 2 (40:41):
Yeah, but did poor wels? But did anybody like say
something to her regarding that, like why did you do that?
Or anything? Was anybody angry with her for leading the
Max was?
Speaker 3 (40:54):
He's just kind of like he said, like, you guys
are all what do you say? Called him all sheep
or something?
Speaker 2 (41:00):
Yeah, I like it.
Speaker 3 (41:03):
He was a little annoyed with it because and even
when they showed the flashback, Peppermint didn't make that big
of a deal.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
Yeah right, she just jumped on it. And Charat was
mad too. Charay did not like it.
Speaker 3 (41:14):
She didn't like it. But let me just tell you
Peppermint's personality is a little over the top. She was
very like you knew when she came into the room,
like she demanded attention anyone she walked into.
Speaker 2 (41:28):
You know, she got up, she sashy over.
Speaker 3 (41:31):
Oh, I remember watching that.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
You're gonna maybe die from my looks, but not from
me being a trader. And then Poverty did the corneas thing.
She goes watch and I then I didn't like Poverty
after that.
Speaker 3 (41:47):
Well, I mean it's it's a great two episodes. Yeah,
and I forgot how good it is.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
It really really is. And then this one I remember
so much more than the first one, Like I know,
you know, Pilot Pete's whole kind of saga is fantastic
coming forward, like coming up, and can we talk about.
Speaker 3 (42:08):
Pilot Pete for a minute. So I don't know who
he was. He's so nice, he's super nice, good looking nice.
And yesterday he did a like collab with something I
can't remember, Oh, with the face mask, you know, the
led face mask.
Speaker 1 (42:23):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, And you know.
Speaker 3 (42:25):
He acts like he's coming in from a flight. He
gets a hotel room, he takes his uniform off and
he plops into bed.
Speaker 2 (42:31):
Oh, stop.
Speaker 3 (42:33):
And then I thought, if I got on a flight
and it was pilot Pete find.
Speaker 2 (42:38):
Me, I would be like, nope, no, nope, right, he's
really good. Though, he's really good.
Speaker 3 (42:48):
I'm sure, but you see somebody as a different way.
And when I get on a plane, I listen to
the pilot's voice. If they you know, when they talk
make an announcement, I'm like, okay, just by his voice,
I trust him. I'm just a weird flyer. I'm like,
I couldn't imagine having Pilot Pete walk out and never.
Speaker 2 (43:08):
Star. That is hysterical.
Speaker 1 (43:11):
Well, I'll be okay with it because he he ends
up being really smart on the show, and I want
my pilots to be smart.
Speaker 2 (43:18):
I know, I know he is very smart.
Speaker 3 (43:21):
But do you want do you want your doctor? You're
going to the doctor and you're like, oh, you were
on Reality Star.
Speaker 2 (43:32):
Well I will say I did dated doctor and he
was on reality to me, and.
Speaker 3 (43:36):
Some people did say that, Yeah. Really, I'm talking like
I'm not talking a plastic surgeon. I'm talking like I'm.
Speaker 2 (43:43):
Talking about high risk pregnancies.
Speaker 3 (43:45):
Heart doctor, proctologist, urologist.
Speaker 2 (43:50):
Hurrytologist, yes, anything, but listen, you can't say that a
doctor isn't great. I mean, look at look at the bros.
Speaker 3 (44:02):
I know, but to Bro's been on you know, he's
been on many reality shows. He he was the original
doctor on the Swan like and that was thirty years ago.
Speaker 2 (44:13):
Wow, that's crazy. They should good in Traders.
Speaker 3 (44:17):
They should put Terry on Traders. Oh my god, that
would be great.
Speaker 2 (44:21):
He could.
Speaker 3 (44:21):
There's no way he's You think he would take a
month off of everything he does that makes some millions
to go on Traders. I would be shocked. I would
be he is so busy.
Speaker 1 (44:31):
Well, I'm excited to latch episodes three and four for
next week. Last thing, tam ud give us a tease
for what we can expect for the next episodes.
Speaker 3 (44:44):
Oh god, I just watched it as if I watched
it for the first time. You think I have a
memory of what's to come up? I mean definitely. And
I only made it to think episode five, So really
till I only got two good episodes left in me?
Speaker 2 (45:04):
I know?
Speaker 3 (45:05):
To how many?
Speaker 1 (45:06):
Did you make one too?
Speaker 3 (45:09):
I doubled that.
Speaker 2 (45:10):
I'm just gonna be quiet.
Speaker 1 (45:12):
Yeah, be quiet, Laura? What right? You the winner? Anyways,
everyone out there, thank you so much. For listening to
By Order of the Faithfuls. If you can go follow
us on social media at by Order of the Faithfuls
on Instagram. That's where all of our clips are. And
then I was also noticing, I know that we've got
(45:33):
a lot of people listening, but I was noticing that
we don't have a lot of reviews and like star
reviews and comments. So if you like the show, please
go rate and review. That helps with the algorithm, yes,
and then also it can give us questions that if
you guys have any questions, it's a perfect place to
put them. We can answer them there.
Speaker 3 (45:52):
Yeah, we're just going you guys rapped up for the
new season that's coming out in January. So we are
getting but.
Speaker 2 (45:58):
A lot of people and I've been asking around and
I've been all over the place. As of today, when
I was in Brazil, heavy trader fan base there. They
don't know about us. So we have to somehow get
the word out about this By Order of the Faithfuls.
So everybody listening, please share it, share it on your
(46:19):
social media, let people know about us. Let's all get
into this game together.
Speaker 1 (46:23):
Absolutely all right, We'll see all you traders and faithfuls
next week. See you guys, bie I
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