December 5, 2025 • 31 mins
Tamra and Wells take a swing at the “backwards singing” challenge and tell us their least-favorite player this week. Why are they feeling bad for a traitor?!
Wells wishes he was still in the castle to witness Danielle’s over-acting. Do he and Tamra think they could’ve sniffed her out easily?
Plus, Wells tells us an idea he pitches to the Bachelor in Paradise team every year that would also play very well on The Traitors…
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Welcome all you Faithfuls and Traders. Another episode of By
Order of the Faithfuls. I'm Wells Adams alongside Tamra Judge.
Unfortunately we are missing one third of our joyous rockus band.
Where is Delores Catana?
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Delores is in DC en route to somewhere else. I
don't know.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
This girl never stays in one place for very long.
She's doing like live shows with Sonya Morgan from New York.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Oh fun you know I did a show. I did
a show with Sonya stop it. Yeah, I did Worst
Cooks in America and it was the funniest. First of all,
I want it just so you know, oh that.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Like a flex I'm not sure.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Worst cook I actually got the call to.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
You know, like if I was interested in it, and
this was a few years ago. I think, yeah, it
seems like a couple of years ago. But didn't work out.
But was it fun?
Speaker 1 (01:02):
I had the best time. And you know what's really funny,
like how like Worlds Intertwine. I got to the finals
and you know who I was going up against in
the finals? Who Johnny Bananas who was on Trader?
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Oh my god, he's a character? Right, did you know him.
Before that, I didn't really know him.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
I didn't. I hated him. I thought he was the
most annoying person he That's.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
How I thought. I thought he was so arrogant. He
was such an arrogant fuck. Every time he talked, I
would like, shut up. And then I got he got
kicked off obviously immediately, and then I got to know
him outside.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Totally different guy.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Like the first four episodes I did of Worst Cooks,
I was like, he's so annoying, and then like the
last five episodes, I was like, he's so good at this.
Like he's made for making reality TV so much so
that there was a season that he almost came on
Bachelor in Paradise. And the way that we were going
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to get him on the show was I was going
to bring everyone together because normally we only have people
from The Bachelor and the Batch Wrecho on the show,
and I was going to bring everyone together and be like, listen,
this is one of my good friends. I'm vouching for him.
He deserves to find love. Please welcome him here. And
he was supposed to go do the challenge. He said
(02:20):
he was going to try to lose the challenge. So
he could fly to Mexico to do the show. Oh
my goodness, and then he ended up winning. I think
that season, well, Johnny.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Banana should be on every reality show across the shoard.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
He should.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
I mean, he's a guy that made a career out
of reality TV.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Yeah, he's so good at it, and I do hope
that he goes back to Traders at some point.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
I think he was supposed to go back this season, right,
I think.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
He was to come back my season, your.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Season, and he had a scheduling issue or something.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
He was better, he was a little bit better.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
I get that.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Let's talk.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Let's talk about these episodes. This was a fun one.
You know. It starts with a lot of tension. The
turret Rob won't tell Danielle who got a shield from
his group today.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
It's so nice that they work together so nicely, right, yes.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
I mean, like watching this back, can you imagine being
a producer being like, these Traders hate each other, hate
each other.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
They're freaking traders, is what they are. Like, They're going
up against each other. Boston Rob leads the charge constantly.
The other two just sit there and just be like, Okay,
whatever he wants, he gets.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Yeah, but also the other two girls they hate, Danielle
and Carolyn hate each other. Yeah, it is the most
dysfunctional turret there's ever been, and I dare to say
will ever be I'm not sure if it will ever
be dysfunctional.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
I agree with you on that one. But it was entertaining,
that's for sure.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Yeah, we find out Derek is murdered, and I think
that Boston. I know Boston Rob, I know he's smart.
I feel like that was such a dumb play to
murder the one guy who was coming after you.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Well, it put definitely put a target on his back,
and I thought, why would he do that? But then
he went out there and said immediately I'm being set up.
I'm being set up. I mean, that was the best
thing he could say. If he didn't say that, then
people would be like, there you.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Go for he did it. But also I'm sitting there
being like, yeah, of course you're gonna say that. If
you're like that makes sense and it's never good. When
I started agreeing with Tom Sandival.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
I was going to say I was going to say,
not Tom Sandoval, noing, what the hell is going on? Yeah,
But then Danielle sabbing so much at breakfast. I mean,
is that her acting or did she really feel guilty
because she killed Derek?
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Her ride and die?
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Listen. I like Danielle, but like her shake and crying.
I'm glad that I was off the show because I
would have been I wish I was on the show
to be in the interview, to be like, does anyone
else think this is annoying? Like what are you doing?
Like at Chihuahua, Like shaking constantly? What's happening? It's a game.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Even on her face, it's like she overly acts.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Oh my god, Yeah, yeah, I'm amazed by it. Anyways,
I was really shocked that they got rid of Derek
because it seemed like it was going to be very,
very obvious. I was a little surprised at Dylan's take
on it, right, like he is obviously aligned with Boston Rob.
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He says, listen, I'm not I don't want to tell
everyone that Derek was like if I get murdered, it's
definitely a Boston Rob. But then he like kind of throws.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
But the fact that he told Boston Rob that, yeah,
I think I want to kept that to.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Myself and not told maybe Rob.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
Yeah, you know, like maybe talk amongst the other people,
and I like.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
So this is what I want to ask you this question,
because this is what I'm thinking that Derek was doing.
Derek was saying, I know, Boston Rob's a trader, but
I'm really good friends with him, and he's going to
save me until the end. So I'm going to continue
to play this game until the end, and then I'll
get rid of him to win. Is that what you
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think was going on?
Speaker 3 (06:33):
I don't know, because anytime anybody pointed a finger out Rob,
even indirectly, he.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Got rid of them. He got rid of them. Yeah
you know who did he Bob the drag Queen.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Yeah, Like he didn't even say his name, Wes Wes.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Like anybody that came.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
So he was starting to look obvious and all we
needed was little Tom Sandoval and how brilliant he is.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
I know that everybody know.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
This fact that he has Dylan foled, Boston Rob has
him folded.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Like, well, that's what I'm saying. I'm not sure if
I think he's fooled. I think that he is, like
I'm going to ride this this trader as long as
I can.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Yeah, I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
So let me tell you what one of my game
plans was that worked out so well. After the second episode,
I thought for sure they were gonna make Ivor a trader,
and I was one hundred percent Ivor is a trader
when he took off his mask, was like, he's a trader.
And I said in my interview, I was like, I
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know he's a trader. I'm gonna be his best friend
so he never murders me. I don't want to make
it all the way to the end then on. And
that's what I think that Dylan's doing going to this
first mission.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Yeah, you're probably right.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
He's probably like deep inside like yeah, okay, And probably
that was his way of telling me. King Boston and
Bob think that he's writing hard for him because he's
like listen, Derek.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Told me it's you or I'm just letting you know,
like yeah, probably.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Yeah. This mission looks like the worst mission in the world.
This is a mission that I would have been like,
thank you, but no, thank you. I'm leaving. I'm not
having creepy crawlers. I'm not having meal worms down my shirt.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
I wanted Delores to be here today because the disappointment
on her face. She was so mad at Michelle when
she broke hands like immediately, like one little thing. Could
you There's no way she would have lasted because they
were throwing all kinds of shit in there and then
putting snakes around. I think I would have lost it
if they put the stake around my neck.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Could you have done that? Mission? Do you think you
think you could have finished it?
Speaker 3 (08:46):
I think that in my head, I would have told myself,
They're not going to put me in a situation where I'm.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Going to get you know, something's gonna kill me.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
Yeah, so I'm going to close my eyes and what
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
Yeah, but you're going to know when they put a
damn snake around your neck.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Yeah, that's where I probably would have lost it.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
I mean there was there was like a scorpion looking
thing in there, like no thing.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
And then didn't they drop like maggots over their head
and then there's Sam over there laughing.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Yeah, I might close your mouth, dude, Yeah yeah, yeah,
close your mouth. He was hungry. He needed some protein.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
He needs some protein, right, no protein shakes loud in Scotland.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Yeah exactly. We get to the roundtable. You know Dylan
opens it up. Dylan's kind of blossoming as a reality.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
TV star on this show.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Look at him now, almost almost winning Dancing with the Stars.
But he's the first to speak, and he tells everyone
that Derek had this theory, but he kind of points
it in Britney's direction more so than Boston.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
Rob.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Sam, who I didn't know had vocal cords, finally speaks.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
I like almost started clapping. Yay, Sam, I mean, yay,
you found your big boy voice.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Yes, you've done it.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
Yes, I'll just take that damn Barrett out of your hair.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Brittany wants it back.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Yeah, Brittany eats his back. Okay, she didn't say you
could borrow it for the entire season, right right. Sam
finally speaks. He thinks all the evidence points to Rob.
Rob turns it back on Brittany. I will say that
Rob did a good job of putting it back on Brittany.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
He's good at that.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
He's good.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Like you know, I said it last week. I'll say
it again. I will I would never want to be
married to a guy like that. Yeah, he could talk
his way out, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Like, he's good, he's very good.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
He's very good.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
But also think the editing's good because I was like,
this could go either way, and then you start seeing
the votes come in and you're like, oh no, it's
it's going towards Rob.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Could you imagine how big Tom's head was at my table. Yeah,
He's like, finally something in my life I got right.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
I didn't screw this thing. I didn't.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
I didn't. It wasn't my fault.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
But in his defense, they've gotten rid of two traders, right, Yeah, Okay,
so the first one was kind of Dylan and also
Boston Robb. That was the self inflicted wound, and then
the next one came from Tom's. You got to give
Tom sand a voltus. I know his flowers here.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
I'm not giving flowers to a Sierra.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
She was writing hard for Boston Rob, the whole theory,
you know, and all that stuff.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
I mean, I'm sure she felt stupid afterwards.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Yeah, I mean, it's it's always hard, but like I
feel like, if I was there, I'd be like, you
have to be a trader. Everyone that's gone against you
is in the ground right now.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
I think at that point it was very obvious, very obvious.
But there's people like Dylan and Sierra that are just like,
I'm just gonna stick by his side because he's a
scary motherfucker.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
That's why you're doing it. Yes.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
I love the way that this episode ends, that you
find out that the Traders will be committing the murders
face to face, and so they send a bunch of
people there. Each faithful walks down the aisle, says a
few closing words at the altar, and then the Traders
walk down orge their next verdicctim, and we're left with
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a cliffhanger into the next step.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
What do you think about Dolores?
Speaker 1 (12:44):
I loved it, Harris.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Speech was like, I don't give a fuck.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
I'm just like, Dolores comes across as such a lovely,
sweet human being and I love her very much, but
she scares the me. I would not mess with her.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
No, she's not somebody you want to cross at all.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
When she did that speech, I was like.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
She's had a few of those speeches on housewives before.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
I believe it.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
But it's so well edited down to the music. It
gave me goose bumps listening to their speeches and all that, Like,
it's so entertaining.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Yeah, what did you think about their kill, you know,
it ends up being Chrischelle. I think it makes sense, right,
Like she's you know, Carolyn Elise says the truth of
Like Girls.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
I would have gotten rid of Tom.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Sorry, yeah, just for like house morales.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
And giggles, that's it. I don't I don't know. I
thought that she was, you know, playing a good game.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
I love her outfits and she's pretty, So why can't
we get rid of Tom?
Speaker 2 (13:58):
That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
I don't disagree with what you're saying there. But also
Tom is I mean, like Gabby says it in an
earlier episode where she's like, Tom, everyone knows why you're here.
You're chaos, but he is the guy who got someone
out I guess. So everyone comes to breakfast and Sam
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has a really good idea actually where he's like, hold on,
what was Alan Waring? Whoever? Doesn't say the right thing?
Then we know who a trader is. Yeah, such a
good idea. Which, by the way, wait, who.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Thought about that? Who's the first one?
Speaker 3 (14:41):
Was it Tom that said like he started talking about
his outfit and stuff.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Yeah, I think so. Yeah, it was such a good idea.
Sam also said one other thing, that when it happened
in real time, this was airing made me so angry.
He said, you know, I don't think the traders are
very smart. That's what he said at the breakfast table.
And I'm sitting there going, that's what That's what I
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said in episode two, and you got mad at me
and you bashed me for saying that. Oh really yes,
And I brought up to him. I was like, it
took you seven episodes to figure it out, but I
said it in episode two.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
Anyways, Uh, Sam has this great idea of asking everyone
come in, so hold on, what was Alan wearing. Carolyn
is having a meltdown, she doesn't know what to say.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
Well, then Tom coming to her rescue, and then Tom
doing shit Tom stuff.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Fun, dude, like what are you doing?
Speaker 3 (15:47):
But then also Tom Sandoval thinking he would be the
last one to walk into breakfast like I made it
and nobody cared, No one gave a shit.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Yeah, but how no one like smacked Tom upside the
back of the head like shut up.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
I would have I know.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
I was amazing. Sam was like, anyways, it was.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
She made it through, she did, but I mean she
came off.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
Caroline had that personality of like I never know what's
going on because otherwise, you know what I mean. She
has that ditzy like I don't really fit into this world,
and she can turn it on when she needs to
and it works for her.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
I've been thinking about this a lot. Everyone that goes
on these reality TV shows, a lot of people use
this like ditsy thing. But if you get really far
or you were on a lot of reality TV shows,
you were very smart. You figured out how to do this,
and you're using this in his advantage for sure, And
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it's something that I didn't realize at the time, but
now watching it back, I'm like, I wouldn't believe any
of this from Carolyn. You're, I know, very smart person.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
See, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
I didn't know who she was until I saw this show,
so it'd be hard like is this really her or is.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
She just is it act?
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Yeah, Like there's a part of me that thinks that,
Like Tom Sandoval is kind of an evil genius too,
like Macabellian as well, Like the things that you're doing
are terrible, I guess on a macro scale, but it's
genius for the show. Banner Pump Rules was never more
popular than what he did. What he did well, I'll.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
Tell you I did his podcast with him, both Tom's
with Tuddy last year, I think it was, and he
was kind of in the heat of everything, very charming,
very nice, seemed very intelligent.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Like it was like, I'm like, wait, this is the
same Tom. But then I'll see him out at.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
Pravocan and he's fighting with his girlfriend, yeah a little
like they're lit and I'm like, okay.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
He's a little messy, but he's a lot messy. I
say this a lot about reality TV stars is that
for so long they've they've been a plotted for bad behavior,
and so in their mind they think bad behavior brings
them good things, and that's why we continue down that road.
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And I feel like he has fallen into that trap
a lot.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
I got stuck in that trout for a while.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
I'm really trying to get out of it, to be
honest with you, But I was always the one that,
you know, oh, do bad things and then you get
praised and you know all that stuff, and then the
world changed, like nobody times are different now, like they
want they don't want to see that anymore.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
But I'm freaking stuck in it.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
Like I can't even get out of it because the
people around me, my cast, are like, you know, they
want I don't know what they want, but it's like
I just went out of this cyclone.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
You know.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
At Bravocan, I saw that there was a trader's panel
and I saw that Tom sand of Aal recreated this
mission that they had, which is this uh singing backwards
in the like the dolls.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Oh my god, I didn't see that at Bravo Con.
I feel like I missed so much.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
We did not see that.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Oh I obviously wasn't there by stuck on social media.
It was very funny, like this is his you know,
he's a singer quote unquote right, like he's a cover artist.
But it's very funny that he's turned this into a thing.
I bought him for it.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Yeah, yes, who was it?
Speaker 3 (19:27):
Was it Brittany that was mimicking him and her confessionals.
I was dying laughing, like he really thought like, Okay,
I'm the only one with the singing ability, and I'm
going to go there and I'm to hong me home
home bomb.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
And I mean it was hilarious. Alan was laughing his
ass off.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Yes, can you imagine how fun that would be to
be Alan in that moment.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Just yes, it would be so fun.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Ever, running out getting the telephone, Alan being like, what
are you doing? Go back? I were just like, I
don't know what I'm doing. I'm just here.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
I mean, how many nursery rhymes backwards? Like where do
they come up with this shit? I want to meet
the people that come up with these missions, because it's
just genius.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Yeah, genus crazy.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
Crazy borderline maybe right there right down the middle.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
I'm not sure there's a fine line between these. In
the sand they say, we get to the round table,
everyone seems to be holding onto this coffin theory sandabal.
Historically speaking, girls are better cheaters than men. I mean,
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amazing Froudian slip there, like you couldn't have no words.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Then they give them ship. They all give him shit.
He's sorry, story story, That's what I'm about to say. Yeah,
that's what I'm meant to say.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
That's when he said. But he said something earlier this season.
He was like, I'm the most faithful, and it was like.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Well, how could you even say those words.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
You're literally known for being a cheater.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
When we get her off of just going I'm a cheater.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
So I'm going to let you guys all know right now,
let's get it out of the way. I am a
cheater because he should repeat that all the time and
people might go, oh, we actually like him.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Oh that makes sense. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
Do you think you would be good at humming the
nursery rhymes or guessing that?
Speaker 1 (21:34):
I think I'd be better at humming them than guessing.
What about you?
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Uh, I don't think either.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
I think that this is a mission I would prefer
to do other the one, you know, the ones bugs
and snakes and shit like that from last week.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
I'd rather do this.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
Yeah, but I think, I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
We can all hum it's not that difficult. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
They got every single one of them, so it could
have did well that heart of a mission.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
For years, I've pitched this idea for a date on
Bachelor in Paradise. It always gets turned down, But that
doesn't mean it's not a great idea. Uh. And the
idea has always been it would be funny if there
was a date where they went to like Amsterdam and
smoke pot and then we filmed what happens when they
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got stoned and like.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
We did that on Housewives as she did.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Yes, so what I was thinking of, like for this one,
it would be so funny. Everyone like ate a gummy
and then everyone lose their mind.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
They some of the girls.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
I didn't partake, but some of the girls were doing mushrooms.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
And we what yeah, and then on TV and we
were broke.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
I was painting dicks, so I couldn't do that. So
as the dazzling.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
Penises, I have so many questions, yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
So many, and so we did do that, but could
you imagine throwing like a game? And there they did
put him in a maze. I didn't have to do
this again. They went in a maze and they were
on mushrooms.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
I need to watch more Housewives. I this is fantastic.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
I was definitely laughing my ass off. When the dolls
starts spraying them with water or whatever it was, It's
coming out of them right in the face.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Imagine the first time that I hit you in the face.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
Yeah, like, what the fuck? It's in my mouth, It's
in my mouth.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
Tom's humming yeah, and then Sam's saying, oh, terrible singer.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Kelly has no idea. He's got a band and all
that stuff.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but Sam would know, well, he was
with the singer he was, he was with a singer,
you know.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
Yeah, and sometimes she sings backwards.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Speaking of the other Brittany, she's all.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
Tom Tom out there getting a record deal after this episode,
for sure, for sure it's happening.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
So we get to the roundtable, Sandoval says this amazing
thing about cheers. Then it goes. It kind of goes
towards Sierra, right, like she's not backing down, she's trying
to fight for herself. But it was aous unanimous vote
against Sierra. Here's my question to you. Do you think
this was more of we don't know who a trader is,
(24:27):
We're just trying to get some weekend someone has to.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
Go and went back to that whole Coffin method whatever theory.
But I think they should one after Tom, just to
get rid of him, just because he bugs. But yeah,
it just I didn't see any reason to get rid
of Sierra.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Yeah. After the roundtable, the guys get together in the
back room, Dylan finds Danielle and Carolyn talking, which does
look very.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
Very suspecius right.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Yeah, But the thing about it is is that like
everyone's teaming up with other people and chatting all the time.
So like when you're when you're in the moment, you're
just like, well, there's just two people talking, you know, unless.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
There's suspicion on you, then it just looks kind of
weird the two of you sitting in a room with.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
The you know, a secret room at that with the
door closed.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
Yeah, So that to me, if I walked in on that,
I'd be.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Like, hmmm, we got here, we got here.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
If you were there right now, Boston and Rob's gone,
who would you go after?
Speaker 1 (25:39):
I like to think that I would say Danielle because
I would be annoyed by her acting and I'd be like,
I don't think this is good acting. I feel like
it's too much and you're weirding me out.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
Yeah, I would go after either one of them, I think,
but maybe because I already know that they're traders, but.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Either one of them.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
When I think about like the nikky one I felt
bad for, I felt bad for Koshelle, and yeah, Gabby
they voted for. But that was one where I was like, oh,
I could totally see her being a trader, Like she's
a huge star. We should probably have her on screen
as much as humanly possible, Like that's how my mind works,
of like I would totally be.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Like, you're like a producer mind.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
Yeah, I would just think that way. I like to
think that. I would say, Danielle, but I don't know.
I you know Hindsight's twenty twenty. Yeah, yeah, But so
in the turret, Danielle and Carolyn are discussing who got
the shields today? When Alan Knox and the door and
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joins them, he gives them a choice. They can murder
Faithful tonight, or they can forfeit the murder and try
to seduce Faithful to join them.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
I don't blame Carolyn in this one. I would not
want Brittany.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
I wouldn't either. I think it was it was also
two on the nose too.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
Yeah, if yeah, I'd be like, no, you want to
bring her on and get rid of me?
Speaker 2 (27:02):
Is what you want to do.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
You've already proven you've you know, voted for me and
gone against me and tried to turn people against me.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
Hell no, this is what I would would have done,
because it lets you hedge your bets. So the way
that this one's worded is if you you either can
accept this or you get murdered, right, Like, it wasn't
like you could turn it down, Like, oh, so if.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
They didn't accept it, they were automatically murdered. I didn't
realize that.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
So they have to accept it exactly.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
So then it's you should go for the most faithful
of the faithful, because if the most faithful of the faithful,
it's time went down and kill and dies. Yeah, okay, great,
it's good that we got got rid of someone who's
the most faithful that no one's ever going to vote for, right.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Lauris, I'm surprised they didn't pull to Laura.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Said, I would. I'm surprised you didn't like Dylan. I
think would have been a good one too. AND's good,
you know, because I don't even know.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
They don't show who they bring in right until next week.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Yeah it ends on a cliffhanger.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Yeah, okay, that's what I thought.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
But yeah, like or like Tom? How great would they? Well? Yeah,
either he leaves or he turns into the thing that
he does.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Could you imagine Tom as a trader? Oh my god,
the stupid decisions that we've made.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
I know, I'm not buying Danielle sisterhood.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
I want to get to the end with you. I'm all, bullshit,
you do not No, you want to bring Brittany in
is what you want to do?
Speaker 1 (28:36):
Okay? Do you feel this way? When I watch this back?
I just feel bad for Carolyn. And I know I
shouldn't feel bad for a trader, but like I'm sitting
there and being like, man, I feel worse.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
For her than I do the other one than Danielle. Danielle, Yeah, Danielle,
Like I don't like I look at her. I'm like,
I don't trust you. No, And I think Carolyn is
just quirky. She's just a worky person. I don't think
that she's evil, yeah, but or even strategic.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
I think she's just there. She just know why she's there,
She's just doing it.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Well what show is she from?
Speaker 1 (29:11):
Big Brother Survivor? Big Brother or Survivor. I don't even know.
I can't remember Survivor.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
I would think there's more skill needed and Survivor than
Big Brother.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
Yeah, but it's also just a war of attrition, just
like hanging around. You know, she's good at that. Anyways,
we're inching closer to the end of this one. Yeah,
it's been fun because it's it's such bad trader play
to me, Like when I watched him, it's like, this
is crazy that these are the moves that these traders
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are are trying to pull off and not wanting to
work together at all.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
No.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
No, Now next week we see Kate and Poverty return.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Why didn't they call me? They didn't call me?
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Yeah, they didn't call me either.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Leave an everlasting impression on it.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
Now there's always season five, you know. But you know what,
I do think that my TV screen is better when
when Kate is on it, and so I'm I'm excited
for her to return.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
You know, she's been on like almost every single season
in some capacity.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Yes, and it's always been amazing television.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
Carvedy's pretty pretty good player. She scared me.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
Well, she's always got the like she snarl.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Always her headbands. Oh yeah, like you're not even human,
you're ai, I know it.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
Yeah, all right, So we've got to a couple more
episodes left of this season. Make sure you are following
us over on social media at by order of the
faithfuls on Instagram, rate, follow, review, and like, tell your friends,
and yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
We're gearing up for season four.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
I know I cannot I cannot wait. And you know
it was fun. We you know, we had Urinda on
and I asked her a lot of questions about what
was going on. She didn't shit the answer.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
And I'm friends with her, been friends with there for
a year. She won't tell me.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
That makes me think it's really good.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
I think she goes far as what I think. I think,
so tell maybe all the way. I'm not sure, I hope.
But her first season she was on, you know she
obviously this season she got kicked off early.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
I didn't know that either.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
Oh really not No, nope, nope, I did because I
was the person who kicked off after an Adity's the
interviews with her. All right, guys, thanks so much for
listening to by Order of the Faithfuls. We'll be back again,
very very soon with more talk of everything in the Turret.
See you, guys.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
I
Welcome all you Faithfuls and Traders. Another episode of By
Order of the Faithfuls. I'm Wells Adams alongside Tamra Judge.
Unfortunately we are missing one third of our joyous rockus band.
Where is Delores Catana?
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Delores is in DC en route to somewhere else. I
don't know.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
This girl never stays in one place for very long.
She's doing like live shows with Sonya Morgan from New York.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Oh fun you know I did a show. I did
a show with Sonya stop it. Yeah, I did Worst
Cooks in America and it was the funniest. First of all,
I want it just so you know, oh that.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Like a flex I'm not sure.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Worst cook I actually got the call to.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
You know, like if I was interested in it, and
this was a few years ago. I think, yeah, it
seems like a couple of years ago. But didn't work out.
But was it fun?
Speaker 1 (01:02):
I had the best time. And you know what's really funny,
like how like Worlds Intertwine. I got to the finals
and you know who I was going up against in
the finals? Who Johnny Bananas who was on Trader?
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Oh my god, he's a character? Right, did you know him.
Before that, I didn't really know him.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
I didn't. I hated him. I thought he was the
most annoying person he That's.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
How I thought. I thought he was so arrogant. He
was such an arrogant fuck. Every time he talked, I
would like, shut up. And then I got he got
kicked off obviously immediately, and then I got to know
him outside.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Totally different guy.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Like the first four episodes I did of Worst Cooks,
I was like, he's so annoying, and then like the
last five episodes, I was like, he's so good at this.
Like he's made for making reality TV so much so
that there was a season that he almost came on
Bachelor in Paradise. And the way that we were going
(01:58):
to get him on the show was I was going
to bring everyone together because normally we only have people
from The Bachelor and the Batch Wrecho on the show,
and I was going to bring everyone together and be like, listen,
this is one of my good friends. I'm vouching for him.
He deserves to find love. Please welcome him here. And
he was supposed to go do the challenge. He said
(02:20):
he was going to try to lose the challenge. So
he could fly to Mexico to do the show. Oh
my goodness, and then he ended up winning. I think
that season, well, Johnny.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Banana should be on every reality show across the shoard.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
He should.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
I mean, he's a guy that made a career out
of reality TV.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Yeah, he's so good at it, and I do hope
that he goes back to Traders at some point.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
I think he was supposed to go back this season, right,
I think.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
He was to come back my season, your.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Season, and he had a scheduling issue or something.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
He was better, he was a little bit better.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
I get that.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Let's talk.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Let's talk about these episodes. This was a fun one.
You know. It starts with a lot of tension. The
turret Rob won't tell Danielle who got a shield from
his group today.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
It's so nice that they work together so nicely, right, yes.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
I mean, like watching this back, can you imagine being
a producer being like, these Traders hate each other, hate
each other.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
They're freaking traders, is what they are. Like, They're going
up against each other. Boston Rob leads the charge constantly.
The other two just sit there and just be like, Okay,
whatever he wants, he gets.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Yeah, but also the other two girls they hate, Danielle
and Carolyn hate each other. Yeah, it is the most
dysfunctional turret there's ever been, and I dare to say
will ever be I'm not sure if it will ever
be dysfunctional.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
I agree with you on that one. But it was entertaining,
that's for sure.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Yeah, we find out Derek is murdered, and I think
that Boston. I know Boston Rob, I know he's smart.
I feel like that was such a dumb play to
murder the one guy who was coming after you.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Well, it put definitely put a target on his back,
and I thought, why would he do that? But then
he went out there and said immediately I'm being set up.
I'm being set up. I mean, that was the best
thing he could say. If he didn't say that, then
people would be like, there you.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Go for he did it. But also I'm sitting there
being like, yeah, of course you're gonna say that. If
you're like that makes sense and it's never good. When
I started agreeing with Tom Sandival.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
I was going to say I was going to say,
not Tom Sandoval, noing, what the hell is going on? Yeah,
But then Danielle sabbing so much at breakfast. I mean,
is that her acting or did she really feel guilty
because she killed Derek?
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Her ride and die?
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Listen. I like Danielle, but like her shake and crying.
I'm glad that I was off the show because I
would have been I wish I was on the show
to be in the interview, to be like, does anyone
else think this is annoying? Like what are you doing?
Like at Chihuahua, Like shaking constantly? What's happening? It's a game.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Even on her face, it's like she overly acts.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Oh my god, Yeah, yeah, I'm amazed by it. Anyways,
I was really shocked that they got rid of Derek
because it seemed like it was going to be very,
very obvious. I was a little surprised at Dylan's take
on it, right, like he is obviously aligned with Boston Rob.
(05:44):
He says, listen, I'm not I don't want to tell
everyone that Derek was like if I get murdered, it's
definitely a Boston Rob. But then he like kind of throws.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
But the fact that he told Boston Rob that, yeah,
I think I want to kept that to.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Myself and not told maybe Rob.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
Yeah, you know, like maybe talk amongst the other people,
and I like.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
So this is what I want to ask you this question,
because this is what I'm thinking that Derek was doing.
Derek was saying, I know, Boston Rob's a trader, but
I'm really good friends with him, and he's going to
save me until the end. So I'm going to continue
to play this game until the end, and then I'll
get rid of him to win. Is that what you
(06:28):
think was going on?
Speaker 3 (06:33):
I don't know, because anytime anybody pointed a finger out Rob,
even indirectly, he.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Got rid of them. He got rid of them. Yeah
you know who did he Bob the drag Queen.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Yeah, Like he didn't even say his name, Wes Wes.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Like anybody that came.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
So he was starting to look obvious and all we
needed was little Tom Sandoval and how brilliant he is.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
I know that everybody know.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
This fact that he has Dylan foled, Boston Rob has
him folded.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Like, well, that's what I'm saying. I'm not sure if
I think he's fooled. I think that he is, like
I'm going to ride this this trader as long as
I can.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Yeah, I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
So let me tell you what one of my game
plans was that worked out so well. After the second episode,
I thought for sure they were gonna make Ivor a trader,
and I was one hundred percent Ivor is a trader
when he took off his mask, was like, he's a trader.
And I said in my interview, I was like, I
(07:42):
know he's a trader. I'm gonna be his best friend
so he never murders me. I don't want to make
it all the way to the end then on. And
that's what I think that Dylan's doing going to this
first mission.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Yeah, you're probably right.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
He's probably like deep inside like yeah, okay, And probably
that was his way of telling me. King Boston and
Bob think that he's writing hard for him because he's
like listen, Derek.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Told me it's you or I'm just letting you know,
like yeah, probably.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Yeah. This mission looks like the worst mission in the world.
This is a mission that I would have been like,
thank you, but no, thank you. I'm leaving. I'm not
having creepy crawlers. I'm not having meal worms down my shirt.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
I wanted Delores to be here today because the disappointment
on her face. She was so mad at Michelle when
she broke hands like immediately, like one little thing. Could
you There's no way she would have lasted because they
were throwing all kinds of shit in there and then
putting snakes around. I think I would have lost it
if they put the stake around my neck.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Could you have done that? Mission? Do you think you
think you could have finished it?
Speaker 3 (08:46):
I think that in my head, I would have told myself,
They're not going to put me in a situation where I'm.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Going to get you know, something's gonna kill me.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
Yeah, so I'm going to close my eyes and what
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
Yeah, but you're going to know when they put a
damn snake around your neck.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Yeah, that's where I probably would have lost it.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
I mean there was there was like a scorpion looking
thing in there, like no thing.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
And then didn't they drop like maggots over their head
and then there's Sam over there laughing.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Yeah, I might close your mouth, dude, Yeah yeah, yeah,
close your mouth. He was hungry. He needed some protein.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
He needs some protein, right, no protein shakes loud in Scotland.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Yeah exactly. We get to the roundtable. You know Dylan
opens it up. Dylan's kind of blossoming as a reality.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
TV star on this show.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Look at him now, almost almost winning Dancing with the Stars.
But he's the first to speak, and he tells everyone
that Derek had this theory, but he kind of points
it in Britney's direction more so than Boston.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
Rob.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Sam, who I didn't know had vocal cords, finally speaks.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
I like almost started clapping. Yay, Sam, I mean, yay,
you found your big boy voice.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Yes, you've done it.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
Yes, I'll just take that damn Barrett out of your hair.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Brittany wants it back.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Yeah, Brittany eats his back. Okay, she didn't say you
could borrow it for the entire season, right right. Sam
finally speaks. He thinks all the evidence points to Rob.
Rob turns it back on Brittany. I will say that
Rob did a good job of putting it back on Brittany.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
He's good at that.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
He's good.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Like you know, I said it last week. I'll say
it again. I will I would never want to be
married to a guy like that. Yeah, he could talk
his way out, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Like, he's good, he's very good.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
He's very good.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
But also think the editing's good because I was like,
this could go either way, and then you start seeing
the votes come in and you're like, oh no, it's
it's going towards Rob.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Could you imagine how big Tom's head was at my table. Yeah,
He's like, finally something in my life I got right.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
I didn't screw this thing. I didn't.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
I didn't. It wasn't my fault.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
But in his defense, they've gotten rid of two traders, right, Yeah, Okay,
so the first one was kind of Dylan and also
Boston Robb. That was the self inflicted wound, and then
the next one came from Tom's. You got to give
Tom sand a voltus. I know his flowers here.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
I'm not giving flowers to a Sierra.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
She was writing hard for Boston Rob, the whole theory,
you know, and all that stuff.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
I mean, I'm sure she felt stupid afterwards.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Yeah, I mean, it's it's always hard, but like I
feel like, if I was there, I'd be like, you
have to be a trader. Everyone that's gone against you
is in the ground right now.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
I think at that point it was very obvious, very obvious.
But there's people like Dylan and Sierra that are just like,
I'm just gonna stick by his side because he's a
scary motherfucker.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
That's why you're doing it. Yes.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
I love the way that this episode ends, that you
find out that the Traders will be committing the murders
face to face, and so they send a bunch of
people there. Each faithful walks down the aisle, says a
few closing words at the altar, and then the Traders
walk down orge their next verdicctim, and we're left with
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a cliffhanger into the next step.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
What do you think about Dolores?
Speaker 1 (12:44):
I loved it, Harris.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Speech was like, I don't give a fuck.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
I'm just like, Dolores comes across as such a lovely,
sweet human being and I love her very much, but
she scares the me. I would not mess with her.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
No, she's not somebody you want to cross at all.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
When she did that speech, I was like.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
She's had a few of those speeches on housewives before.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
I believe it.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
But it's so well edited down to the music. It
gave me goose bumps listening to their speeches and all that, Like,
it's so entertaining.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Yeah, what did you think about their kill, you know,
it ends up being Chrischelle. I think it makes sense, right,
Like she's you know, Carolyn Elise says the truth of
Like Girls.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
I would have gotten rid of Tom.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Sorry, yeah, just for like house morales.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
And giggles, that's it. I don't I don't know. I
thought that she was, you know, playing a good game.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
I love her outfits and she's pretty, So why can't
we get rid of Tom?
Speaker 2 (13:58):
That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
I don't disagree with what you're saying there. But also
Tom is I mean, like Gabby says it in an
earlier episode where she's like, Tom, everyone knows why you're here.
You're chaos, but he is the guy who got someone
out I guess. So everyone comes to breakfast and Sam
(14:25):
has a really good idea actually where he's like, hold on,
what was Alan Waring? Whoever? Doesn't say the right thing?
Then we know who a trader is. Yeah, such a
good idea. Which, by the way, wait, who.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Thought about that? Who's the first one?
Speaker 3 (14:41):
Was it Tom that said like he started talking about
his outfit and stuff.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Yeah, I think so. Yeah, it was such a good idea.
Sam also said one other thing, that when it happened
in real time, this was airing made me so angry.
He said, you know, I don't think the traders are
very smart. That's what he said at the breakfast table.
And I'm sitting there going, that's what That's what I
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said in episode two, and you got mad at me
and you bashed me for saying that. Oh really yes,
And I brought up to him. I was like, it
took you seven episodes to figure it out, but I
said it in episode two.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
Anyways, Uh, Sam has this great idea of asking everyone
come in, so hold on, what was Alan wearing. Carolyn
is having a meltdown, she doesn't know what to say.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
Well, then Tom coming to her rescue, and then Tom
doing shit Tom stuff.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Fun, dude, like what are you doing?
Speaker 3 (15:47):
But then also Tom Sandoval thinking he would be the
last one to walk into breakfast like I made it
and nobody cared, No one gave a shit.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Yeah, but how no one like smacked Tom upside the
back of the head like shut up.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
I would have I know.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
I was amazing. Sam was like, anyways, it was.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
She made it through, she did, but I mean she
came off.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
Caroline had that personality of like I never know what's
going on because otherwise, you know what I mean. She
has that ditzy like I don't really fit into this world,
and she can turn it on when she needs to
and it works for her.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
I've been thinking about this a lot. Everyone that goes
on these reality TV shows, a lot of people use
this like ditsy thing. But if you get really far
or you were on a lot of reality TV shows,
you were very smart. You figured out how to do this,
and you're using this in his advantage for sure, And
(16:45):
it's something that I didn't realize at the time, but
now watching it back, I'm like, I wouldn't believe any
of this from Carolyn. You're, I know, very smart person.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
See, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
I didn't know who she was until I saw this show,
so it'd be hard like is this really her or is.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
She just is it act?
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Yeah, Like there's a part of me that thinks that,
Like Tom Sandoval is kind of an evil genius too,
like Macabellian as well, Like the things that you're doing
are terrible, I guess on a macro scale, but it's
genius for the show. Banner Pump Rules was never more
popular than what he did. What he did well, I'll.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
Tell you I did his podcast with him, both Tom's
with Tuddy last year, I think it was, and he
was kind of in the heat of everything, very charming,
very nice, seemed very intelligent.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Like it was like, I'm like, wait, this is the
same Tom. But then I'll see him out at.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
Pravocan and he's fighting with his girlfriend, yeah a little
like they're lit and I'm like, okay.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
He's a little messy, but he's a lot messy. I
say this a lot about reality TV stars is that
for so long they've they've been a plotted for bad behavior,
and so in their mind they think bad behavior brings
them good things, and that's why we continue down that road.
(18:10):
And I feel like he has fallen into that trap
a lot.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
I got stuck in that trout for a while.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
I'm really trying to get out of it, to be
honest with you, But I was always the one that,
you know, oh, do bad things and then you get
praised and you know all that stuff, and then the
world changed, like nobody times are different now, like they
want they don't want to see that anymore.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
But I'm freaking stuck in it.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
Like I can't even get out of it because the
people around me, my cast, are like, you know, they
want I don't know what they want, but it's like
I just went out of this cyclone.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
You know.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
At Bravocan, I saw that there was a trader's panel
and I saw that Tom sand of Aal recreated this
mission that they had, which is this uh singing backwards
in the like the dolls.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Oh my god, I didn't see that at Bravo Con.
I feel like I missed so much.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
We did not see that.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Oh I obviously wasn't there by stuck on social media.
It was very funny, like this is his you know,
he's a singer quote unquote right, like he's a cover artist.
But it's very funny that he's turned this into a thing.
I bought him for it.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Yeah, yes, who was it?
Speaker 3 (19:27):
Was it Brittany that was mimicking him and her confessionals.
I was dying laughing, like he really thought like, Okay,
I'm the only one with the singing ability, and I'm
going to go there and I'm to hong me home
home bomb.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
And I mean it was hilarious. Alan was laughing his
ass off.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Yes, can you imagine how fun that would be to
be Alan in that moment.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Just yes, it would be so fun.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Ever, running out getting the telephone, Alan being like, what
are you doing? Go back? I were just like, I
don't know what I'm doing. I'm just here.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
I mean, how many nursery rhymes backwards? Like where do
they come up with this shit? I want to meet
the people that come up with these missions, because it's
just genius.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Yeah, genus crazy.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
Crazy borderline maybe right there right down the middle.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
I'm not sure there's a fine line between these. In
the sand they say, we get to the round table,
everyone seems to be holding onto this coffin theory sandabal.
Historically speaking, girls are better cheaters than men. I mean,
(20:45):
amazing Froudian slip there, like you couldn't have no words.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Then they give them ship. They all give him shit.
He's sorry, story story, That's what I'm about to say. Yeah,
that's what I'm meant to say.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
That's when he said. But he said something earlier this season.
He was like, I'm the most faithful, and it was like.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Well, how could you even say those words.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
You're literally known for being a cheater.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
When we get her off of just going I'm a cheater.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
So I'm going to let you guys all know right now,
let's get it out of the way. I am a
cheater because he should repeat that all the time and
people might go, oh, we actually like him.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Oh that makes sense. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
Do you think you would be good at humming the
nursery rhymes or guessing that?
Speaker 1 (21:34):
I think I'd be better at humming them than guessing.
What about you?
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Uh, I don't think either.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
I think that this is a mission I would prefer
to do other the one, you know, the ones bugs
and snakes and shit like that from last week.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
I'd rather do this.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
Yeah, but I think, I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
We can all hum it's not that difficult. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
They got every single one of them, so it could
have did well that heart of a mission.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
For years, I've pitched this idea for a date on
Bachelor in Paradise. It always gets turned down, But that
doesn't mean it's not a great idea. Uh. And the
idea has always been it would be funny if there
was a date where they went to like Amsterdam and
smoke pot and then we filmed what happens when they
(22:27):
got stoned and like.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
We did that on Housewives as she did.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Yes, so what I was thinking of, like for this one,
it would be so funny. Everyone like ate a gummy
and then everyone lose their mind.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
They some of the girls.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
I didn't partake, but some of the girls were doing mushrooms.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
And we what yeah, and then on TV and we
were broke.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
I was painting dicks, so I couldn't do that. So
as the dazzling.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
Penises, I have so many questions, yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
So many, and so we did do that, but could
you imagine throwing like a game? And there they did
put him in a maze. I didn't have to do
this again. They went in a maze and they were
on mushrooms.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
I need to watch more Housewives. I this is fantastic.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
I was definitely laughing my ass off. When the dolls
starts spraying them with water or whatever it was, It's
coming out of them right in the face.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Imagine the first time that I hit you in the face.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
Yeah, like, what the fuck? It's in my mouth, It's
in my mouth.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
Tom's humming yeah, and then Sam's saying, oh, terrible singer.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Kelly has no idea. He's got a band and all
that stuff.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but Sam would know, well, he was
with the singer he was, he was with a singer,
you know.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
Yeah, and sometimes she sings backwards.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Speaking of the other Brittany, she's all.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
Tom Tom out there getting a record deal after this episode,
for sure, for sure it's happening.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
So we get to the roundtable, Sandoval says this amazing
thing about cheers. Then it goes. It kind of goes
towards Sierra, right, like she's not backing down, she's trying
to fight for herself. But it was aous unanimous vote
against Sierra. Here's my question to you. Do you think
this was more of we don't know who a trader is,
(24:27):
We're just trying to get some weekend someone has to.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
Go and went back to that whole Coffin method whatever theory.
But I think they should one after Tom, just to
get rid of him, just because he bugs. But yeah,
it just I didn't see any reason to get rid
of Sierra.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Yeah. After the roundtable, the guys get together in the
back room, Dylan finds Danielle and Carolyn talking, which does
look very.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
Very suspecius right.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Yeah, But the thing about it is is that like
everyone's teaming up with other people and chatting all the time.
So like when you're when you're in the moment, you're
just like, well, there's just two people talking, you know, unless.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
There's suspicion on you, then it just looks kind of
weird the two of you sitting in a room with.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
The you know, a secret room at that with the
door closed.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
Yeah, So that to me, if I walked in on that,
I'd be.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Like, hmmm, we got here, we got here.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
If you were there right now, Boston and Rob's gone,
who would you go after?
Speaker 1 (25:39):
I like to think that I would say Danielle because
I would be annoyed by her acting and I'd be like,
I don't think this is good acting. I feel like
it's too much and you're weirding me out.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
Yeah, I would go after either one of them, I think,
but maybe because I already know that they're traders, but.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Either one of them.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
When I think about like the nikky one I felt
bad for, I felt bad for Koshelle, and yeah, Gabby
they voted for. But that was one where I was like, oh,
I could totally see her being a trader, Like she's
a huge star. We should probably have her on screen
as much as humanly possible, Like that's how my mind works,
of like I would totally be.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Like, you're like a producer mind.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
Yeah, I would just think that way. I like to
think that. I would say, Danielle, but I don't know.
I you know Hindsight's twenty twenty. Yeah, yeah, But so
in the turret, Danielle and Carolyn are discussing who got
the shields today? When Alan Knox and the door and
(26:41):
joins them, he gives them a choice. They can murder
Faithful tonight, or they can forfeit the murder and try
to seduce Faithful to join them.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
I don't blame Carolyn in this one. I would not
want Brittany.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
I wouldn't either. I think it was it was also
two on the nose too.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
Yeah, if yeah, I'd be like, no, you want to
bring her on and get rid of me?
Speaker 2 (27:02):
Is what you want to do.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
You've already proven you've you know, voted for me and
gone against me and tried to turn people against me.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
Hell no, this is what I would would have done,
because it lets you hedge your bets. So the way
that this one's worded is if you you either can
accept this or you get murdered, right, Like, it wasn't
like you could turn it down, Like, oh, so if.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
They didn't accept it, they were automatically murdered. I didn't
realize that.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
So they have to accept it exactly.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
So then it's you should go for the most faithful
of the faithful, because if the most faithful of the faithful,
it's time went down and kill and dies. Yeah, okay, great,
it's good that we got got rid of someone who's
the most faithful that no one's ever going to vote for, right.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Lauris, I'm surprised they didn't pull to Laura.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Said, I would. I'm surprised you didn't like Dylan. I
think would have been a good one too. AND's good,
you know, because I don't even know.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
They don't show who they bring in right until next week.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Yeah it ends on a cliffhanger.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Yeah, okay, that's what I thought.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
But yeah, like or like Tom? How great would they? Well? Yeah,
either he leaves or he turns into the thing that
he does.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Could you imagine Tom as a trader? Oh my god,
the stupid decisions that we've made.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
I know, I'm not buying Danielle sisterhood.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
I want to get to the end with you. I'm all, bullshit,
you do not No, you want to bring Brittany in
is what you want to do?
Speaker 1 (28:36):
Okay? Do you feel this way? When I watch this back?
I just feel bad for Carolyn. And I know I
shouldn't feel bad for a trader, but like I'm sitting
there and being like, man, I feel worse.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
For her than I do the other one than Danielle. Danielle, Yeah, Danielle,
Like I don't like I look at her. I'm like,
I don't trust you. No, And I think Carolyn is
just quirky. She's just a worky person. I don't think
that she's evil, yeah, but or even strategic.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
I think she's just there. She just know why she's there,
She's just doing it.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Well what show is she from?
Speaker 1 (29:11):
Big Brother Survivor? Big Brother or Survivor. I don't even know.
I can't remember Survivor.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
I would think there's more skill needed and Survivor than
Big Brother.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
Yeah, but it's also just a war of attrition, just
like hanging around. You know, she's good at that. Anyways,
we're inching closer to the end of this one. Yeah,
it's been fun because it's it's such bad trader play
to me, Like when I watched him, it's like, this
is crazy that these are the moves that these traders
(29:41):
are are trying to pull off and not wanting to
work together at all.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
No.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
No, Now next week we see Kate and Poverty return.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Why didn't they call me? They didn't call me?
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Yeah, they didn't call me either.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Leave an everlasting impression on it.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
Now there's always season five, you know. But you know what,
I do think that my TV screen is better when
when Kate is on it, and so I'm I'm excited
for her to return.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
You know, she's been on like almost every single season
in some capacity.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Yes, and it's always been amazing television.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
Carvedy's pretty pretty good player. She scared me.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
Well, she's always got the like she snarl.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Always her headbands. Oh yeah, like you're not even human,
you're ai, I know it.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
Yeah, all right, So we've got to a couple more
episodes left of this season. Make sure you are following
us over on social media at by order of the
faithfuls on Instagram, rate, follow, review, and like, tell your friends,
and yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
We're gearing up for season four.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
I know I cannot I cannot wait. And you know
it was fun. We you know, we had Urinda on
and I asked her a lot of questions about what
was going on. She didn't shit the answer.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
And I'm friends with her, been friends with there for
a year. She won't tell me.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
That makes me think it's really good.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
I think she goes far as what I think. I think,
so tell maybe all the way. I'm not sure, I hope.
But her first season she was on, you know she
obviously this season she got kicked off early.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
I didn't know that either.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
Oh really not No, nope, nope, I did because I
was the person who kicked off after an Adity's the
interviews with her. All right, guys, thanks so much for
listening to by Order of the Faithfuls. We'll be back again,
very very soon with more talk of everything in the Turret.
See you, guys.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
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