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September 12, 2025 39 mins

Dolores is ready to buy a shirt that says: I Love Kate Chastain! 

Do we think Cody’s lie was blatantly obvious or is Kyle more clever than they give him credit for?

Plus, the traitors are turning on each other and we’re surprised by who’s on the chopping block. Do we love it or hate it?!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome into all you Faithfuls and Traders. Another episode of
Bio The Order of the Faithfuls is coming at you
right now. Episode five and six recap. I'm wells alongside
Tamrat and Dolores. So we're going to do a little
bit of a programming switch up here going forward. We're
going to do two episodes an episode because we want

(00:24):
to get through seasons one through three before the new
season of The Trader starts. So going forward, make sure
you guys all out there watch both episodes, two episodes
so you are caught up with us.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
I'll tell you it was exciting, It really was, and
I liked the way things went and it shows you
even more now series really starting to come out of
her shell. She played at love, she played possum for
a while, but she's a professional. She may be one
of the best Traders I've ever seen so far. What
do you think She had a little.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
Acting situation at the round table when we get there,
I'll talk about.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
It, but but she's pretty good. She's damn good. She's
damn good. And Kate's MVP. We'll get to that too.
She's MVP of not given a shit. Well, that's to
me everything.

Speaker 4 (01:20):
But is it an act?

Speaker 5 (01:22):
No, Kate's that way, and Kate is what you get
is what you see.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
What about the other two traders? You know, originally we
thought Christian was kind of like the worst because he
was just doing too much, And now it seems like
Cody is kind of doing too much or is conscience
is getting to him. What do you guys think about
these two guys in the turret?

Speaker 4 (01:42):
Well?

Speaker 2 (01:42):
I think that Cody his conscience did get to him,
not enough to after he killed his friend to use
him as but like by saying, oh, you know he
said this about you before you left, it got him
in trouble.

Speaker 4 (01:58):
He screwed up.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
He screwed up this this episode really bad. He put
a target on him, Oh for sure he did. I'm
starting to really love Christian. I feel like he's just
like the people's person, Like he's just like.

Speaker 3 (02:12):
Happy he and no one even really suspects anything because
he's just like dinghy all the time, kind of like
what Kate's doing with the hate he's doing with the dopiness.

Speaker 4 (02:21):
He's so dopey. He's so dopey it's unreal. But he
did good it. I thought he did great these two.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
Episodes, he's so dopey that you think he's too dopey
to pull off being a trader at this point. So
this is, you know, this is his superpower, being a dits.

Speaker 1 (02:42):
Speaking of Ditz's, Ryan Lockedy's the guy who's march heard
mainly for spite. I feel like because Siri thought that
Cody and he had some sort of romance and she
wanted to test him for some reason. I don't want
to get your guys' thoughts on on if that was
a smart move or not. I can see it both ways, right, Like,

(03:02):
it makes sense to get rid of Ryan to test
to see who is allegiances lie with. Is it with
the Traders or is it with some of the faithfuls.
But then also it's a smart move because probably no
one thinks Ryan Lockey is a trader, similar to Dolores
R season where everyone was like Tom's not a trader,

(03:24):
He's just dumb and like not really not really helping
out the situation, just kind of like making things more confusing.
But the thing that I thought that wasn't smart when
it came to the Trader's decision to kill Ryan was
that they didn't kill someone that was actively going at
them to get a threat gone or pit it on
somebody else. So I don't know what where are yours' thoughts.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
I didn't understand the kill. I think it was Siri
just flexing to you know whatever. There was no real
rhyme or reason to kill this guy other than the
fact that I didn't realize till after he was gone
how many people really liked him. Well, I think he
should have been murdered just for the fact that he
set it down and said, I'm.

Speaker 5 (04:05):
Being murdered, like everybody loves me, my favorite.

Speaker 4 (04:11):
I'm like, okay, mister Ego, I know.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
Well he wasn't that much of a favorite because he
is dead now and he's gone, and his own friend,
his best friend there, took part in killing him just
to prove an allegiance to Siri, who then is going
to kill him anyway.

Speaker 5 (04:30):
So you know, it's one thing to kill your friend,
but make it worth it.

Speaker 4 (04:34):
Don't do it for her.

Speaker 2 (04:36):
You know, it just shows you how much power she
has over the two of them. And there you have
Christian sitting there like, oh no, we.

Speaker 4 (04:44):
Got to keep it together, guys. Yeah, I know.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
I know.

Speaker 3 (04:47):
In the breakfast room too, a series like Christians looking
like a bad actor in a B movie and then
all of a sudden you see the door knock and
I'm like, okay, girl, that was bad acting.

Speaker 4 (04:58):
That was bad acting.

Speaker 3 (05:00):
Go now if you notice Stephanie and Kate call it
out as another deflection murder, yeah, is it?

Speaker 5 (05:06):
Like, but there was no rhyme or reason to it.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
There just wasn't like they just threw everybody off. They
cause chaos in the castle, and that is the trader's
whole thing. That's what they do is to throw off
who you think is next is not going to be
next ever.

Speaker 3 (05:23):
Well, Stephanie and Kater cooley onto them, so they need
to get rid of them.

Speaker 1 (05:27):
I do think it's a smart move though, to go
from chaos to calculated and if you go back and forth,
and it keeps the faithfuls off kilter, right, So like,
if it's a murder that no one understands, then it's like, okay,
now I don't know who to go for. And then
if it's lessen so and so is talking about me,
you got to kill them. But then you can still
have the argument of like I think this is chaos

(05:50):
if you're a trader trying to I don't know, change
the vote. The other thing I was thinking about today
is we have this whole thing of like, it's terrible,
it's crazy that faithfuls can't figure out the true the
traders are and get them out. But the truth of
the matter is, traders have the numbers. If there are
let's say three people in the turret, you have three

(06:11):
people voting usually in lockstet to get out a faithful
and then you just need to convince one or two
people and then you have the numbers very very easily.
So even if you have a good mark on somebody,
getting all of them to agree is almost impossible. But
of course the traders can do it because they can
be like we're all going to vote together to be

(06:31):
able to get someone out. Now, I wanted to bring
up the conversation. We kind of touched on it earlier,
but Cody talking to Kyle about the last thing that
Ryan said, and I feel like this is a terrible
move because you can't you can't legitimize the thing that
was said because that person isn't here anymore, he's dead.

Speaker 5 (06:54):
Well, what was his reasoning for doing it?

Speaker 4 (06:56):
It was a bad move, he thought he was being slick.
He's not slick.

Speaker 3 (07:00):
It almost felt like it came out of being nervous
or something. Well, I think it came out of guilt
or not guilt. I mean he's pinning something on him
or whatever, but it came out. I think he was
so thrown off by having to get rid of him
that he felt like he had to do something at breakfast,
which backfired on him. But what I was so impressed

(07:21):
about is that Kyle copped onto it so quickly. And
you know, I think more than his mistake of doing
that was saying it to somebody that figured him out.
If he would have said that to maybe Stephanie, she
wouldn't have caught on.

Speaker 4 (07:39):
Or Rachel, who thinks she's smarter than she is.

Speaker 5 (07:42):
I don't know the way he said it.

Speaker 3 (07:44):
Even watching it was like, oh, there was like an
ick about it, like dude, why are you saying this?

Speaker 5 (07:50):
Why when he said it, I go, oh shit, this
gonna backfire on you.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
Dude?

Speaker 3 (07:54):
Why was he shaking? Maybe he's just such an honest
guy in real life that the guilt was killing him.
The guilt, well was killing him. I think that his
conscience got the best of them, and the best of
traders are unconsciable. I've actually dated some guys that I
will make good traders. They have no conscience at all.

Speaker 1 (08:13):
But the thing is, he won Big Brother a couple
of times. Doesn't that game kind of lend to being
kind of traitorous? I feel like he should be better
than he is at this. You're right, I do think
that I can understand his rationale for this whole thing.
Everyone knew I was friends with Ryan. I need to

(08:33):
make sure that everyone remembers that I was friends with Ryan,
because if I am really good friends with Ryan, one
I wouldn't kill him. Wouldn't have killed him, and two
he probably would have come to me and talk to
me about something because we were such good friends. And
now what I'm trying to do is I'm trying to

(08:54):
make an alliance or I'm trying to garner goodwill with you, Kyle,
because I'm letting you know that he said this, But
I don't believe that I think that was his thought process.
I just think he did it poorly, and Kyle was
like red flag.

Speaker 4 (09:09):
He did it to Kyle.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
He Kyle would have never thought about Ryan for a second.
He would have never I mean he would have never
thought Cody would have would have done that, like unless
he'd unless he pulled the ship right, like he just
put a big target on him. Yeah, but again, I
am very impressed at Kyle catching on so easily.

Speaker 4 (09:33):
I don't know that I would have caught on. But
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (09:36):
I mean, watching it on TV, it was quite clear,
but who knows, Like in person, it's so different.

Speaker 2 (09:41):
We all know the people watching it always think that
they could have played it very differently.

Speaker 4 (09:46):
You don't know until you're there, right, I just say
he picked the wrong person to do it too.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
And again, wait till I see Kyle at Bravo Khan,
I am so impressed. I have to tell him when
I see him. I might even text him. Yeah, he
did a good job, lover boy, bore the wind. But
see Kyle now. When they break up to talk, Kyle
immediately tells Stephanie that Cody just blew his cover. He's
so sure that he actually says he's one hundred percent

(10:17):
sure it's him. Isn't that crazy? Yeah, Stephanie believes him.
I like Stephanie. I think she's playing a really good game.
I like her too, and I think she does You know.
I like how she takes charge in the mission, even
though that mission was so one sided. I can't believe

(10:38):
the other team didn't even get one dollar.

Speaker 1 (10:41):
I know that. So let's get into the mission. Basically,
they've got to remember a couple numbers from confession.

Speaker 4 (10:49):
This was amazing.

Speaker 1 (10:50):
I feel like Doris, you and I had to do
a lot of confession as kids.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
Well, I was just going to say, as an Irish
Italian Catholic, oh, she just like blew my mond like
I was so into this.

Speaker 4 (11:02):
Oh I bet, But how eerie was it?

Speaker 3 (11:05):
Just when everybody's sitting in church and they all tune
around with those gold masks on.

Speaker 4 (11:10):
You know this right away?

Speaker 2 (11:12):
Wells we're thinking, like, oh god, When I was thinking
when I was in the church and there was a
coffin and there was all this shit going on, all
I was thinking was when my mom sees I took
part in this, She's gonna kill me that sitting in
that confessional with Alan, like it's your first time to say,
oh wow, this is kind of really spooky.

Speaker 4 (11:30):
But what I noticed?

Speaker 5 (11:31):
Did you notice what Stephanie had on her finger? She
had a rosary ring.

Speaker 4 (11:37):
I didn't catch that.

Speaker 2 (11:38):
Yeah, So it's how you say your rosary. It's like
seven beads and then the cross. But you could say
it and you can have like the necklace, but this
one was a ring.

Speaker 4 (11:48):
She brought that with her.

Speaker 2 (11:49):
That was kind of funny that she would just have
it in her pocket.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
Seemed like a relatively easy mission, right like Alan gives
you a number and a paragraph, you go find it.
Then it's a riddle, and then you gotta go figure
out you know, who it could be. It seemed like
it wasn't as hard as Team two made it out
to be because Team one breathed through, but Team two
had a very hard time.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
I mean Kyle forgetting the number, but not Rachel saying
I'm so good at this.

Speaker 4 (12:26):
Oh I'm gonna say, yeah.

Speaker 5 (12:28):
I'm so good at riddles. Then she loses to Christian. Wait,
how about Christian in his animation?

Speaker 4 (12:37):
I think he's growing on me. I'm telling you this.
I loved him this episode.

Speaker 1 (12:42):
He's got story arc for sure.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
Yeah, he's just like a silly kid at this point,
but he got on my nerves so bad.

Speaker 4 (12:49):
I don't know that he's total Trader material.

Speaker 1 (12:52):
I don't know. I think he doesn't swear about anyone
else's feelings. All right, So we go back to the castle,
they talk about who's to be sent home. I'll tell
you what's different about this season too, Like our seasons,
I feel like they cut down the amount of time
you get to hang out and talk to people between
missions and round tables, because it seems like there was

(13:15):
a lot of time, Like Kyle finds out his name's
being thrown around and he gets to talk to a
lot of people before having to go to the roundtable.

Speaker 4 (13:24):
That's true, but maybe they just air it differently.

Speaker 1 (13:29):
Yeah, maybe, so this is more just like personally, because
I was like, I didn't get to have time to
talk to anybody when I heard my name being called.

Speaker 2 (13:37):
Wells, there's never enough time before that roundtable. That's forever
enough time. You're never ready for it. You're walking in,
you got things in your head. But there's always that doubt,
especially now towards what do we on? What episode? Is
this the fifth episode? And they still haven't.

Speaker 1 (13:55):
Caught a trader I know, and they're not getting any closer.
I mean, you've got Kyle thinking it's Cody. You've got
Cody trying to save his ass saying it's Kyle. Everyone
thinks Kate is probably a trader, and then you have
Kate thinking that is it, Rachel's a trader.

Speaker 5 (14:11):
Well, Christian's trying to convince Rachel that Kate is a trader.

Speaker 3 (14:15):
Yeah, I mean, they're all kind of throwing everybody under
the bus at this point.

Speaker 2 (14:18):
And again it's still season one, episode five, Still no trader.

Speaker 4 (14:25):
They have nothing to we have nothing to compare it
to yet, so I always try to keep that in mind.

Speaker 2 (14:30):
But I have to say I understand now watching it
from a different light and not binging it on the
way to play this game.

Speaker 5 (14:38):
Then I'm starting to see how people really got hooked
on it.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
Yes, there's a lot going on, and it's funny to
see how wrong people can be. And nobody's more wrong
all the time than Quentin, who is supposed to be
able to read people more than anyone. Yeah, once again,
another episode Quentin takes he just totally.

Speaker 4 (15:00):
Thanks on being so thinking he's so right and so one.

Speaker 1 (15:04):
Hundred wrong, totally so at the roundtable and he starts
a conversation by explaining that they think that Kyle is
a trader, and then Kyle brings up his reasons for
why he thinks Cody's a trader. He thinks Cody was
lying about what Ryan said, which Kyle is He's right
about that, right. Rachel switches a conversation to target Kay

(15:26):
because Rachel and Kay hate each other.

Speaker 3 (15:29):
They hate each other so much that it just makes
me so happy just to see them interact.

Speaker 5 (15:34):
The things they say to each other is hilarious to me.

Speaker 1 (15:39):
The next day, when Kate's like, well, you decided to
wear that outfit and that makes me think that you
don't make good decisions? Is so mean?

Speaker 5 (15:49):
Oh my god? How when she says cases of Rachel,
nothing here is personal.

Speaker 4 (15:54):
Rachel, I don't even know you. I don't even know you.
Shut up, asshole. Kate is good TV.

Speaker 2 (16:02):
He really needs so it's no wonder why they brought
her back so many times.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
She also doesn't want to be there, ever, which is
a very funny way to play the game, because everyone
else is trying so hard moving on with grim Death,
and she's like, get me the f out of this place.

Speaker 2 (16:21):
I don't want to be in this castle another minute.
And not to mention, we'll get to the next part
of the next mission, but.

Speaker 4 (16:32):
I'll say I love you, Kate.

Speaker 5 (16:35):
I would have kicked her ass.

Speaker 6 (16:36):
Though.

Speaker 2 (16:36):
If I was on that mission, she's just sitting there
throwing things. Because you're very competitive camera, yeah, i'd.

Speaker 4 (16:42):
Be like, come on, don't be a dick. You can
do this. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (16:46):
Well yeah, if I see Angelica cry one more time,
I'm going to vomit.

Speaker 5 (16:51):
I know.

Speaker 3 (16:51):
Oh, I know she went last on one of our shows,
but she would end. But Kyle is fighting for his life.

Speaker 2 (16:58):
Wait, have you guys noticed how emaciated he is at
this point? By now? You're only eating the food in
the castle. You're not allowed to have fast food. You're
not allowed to order McDonald's or Burger King. Well, I
don't anyways, I know you don't, but I do. And
I've offered. I just want spaghetti and meatballs. I've offered

(17:20):
to buy the whole cast, the whole crew. I brought
my credit card. I'm ready to call pull and send money.
They would not have it. They will not bring outside
food in at all. Like, what are you going to
do escape? What are they going to put a chisel
in a cake? I just wanted my spaghetti and meepoles.
But you know, you could tell now how trim everyone's

(17:41):
getting from.

Speaker 4 (17:42):
Not eating junk or not really eating anything. I heard
anything there.

Speaker 5 (17:47):
There was a few meals that were good, but most
of that was no thank you.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
Well, I think I need to be brought back for
that reason alone, for catering, to see the catering.

Speaker 1 (17:57):
Okay, back to the roundtable. Kyle is the sacrificial lamb.
He gets sent up, and it's kind of shocking to
me that, like, once he shows everyone and tells everyone
that he's a faithful the entire room doesn't go Cody.
Were you guys not surprised by that?

Speaker 4 (18:14):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (18:14):
I mean if I was Cody, I would.

Speaker 3 (18:16):
Be shitting myself with Kyle's exit speech. I would be like,
I'd be afraid he should be.

Speaker 2 (18:22):
But I don't think people really liked Kyle so much
because remember let's go back to when he walked in
to the breakfast room and they were like, Kyle, I
know he was like, that was kind of a shitty greeting.

Speaker 1 (18:37):
He gives like eighties heart thraw villain vibes. He's like
the bad guy from a John Hughes movie. Man, do
you know what I'm talking about. He's the bad guy
in like Breakfast Club or like pretty Impact for sixteen candles.

Speaker 4 (18:55):
Yeah, but he's so good, he's really so nice.

Speaker 3 (18:59):
Now, why we Cody at this point and Kyle just
kind of pretty much out to you and pointing the
finger at you.

Speaker 4 (19:05):
What would be your next move?

Speaker 3 (19:06):
Would you be quiet in the group because you only
have what forty minutes left after the roundtable to mingo
a little bit, or would you be running around.

Speaker 4 (19:14):
Trying to convince people.

Speaker 2 (19:16):
I would probably just be myself, because what they look
like is there for a change in behavior always because
they have nothing else to go on.

Speaker 5 (19:24):
But if you noticed Kyle scratched out Cody's name and
voted for Kate.

Speaker 1 (19:31):
I think he did that because he was trying to
figure out what the numbers looked like it was between
the two.

Speaker 5 (19:36):
Of them, so he was trying to Yeah, I think
that's why he did that.

Speaker 2 (19:40):
Whatever, it didn't matter because he got killed. I mean,
he got banished.

Speaker 1 (19:43):
Yeah, so Kyle's gone. We find out that Amanda has
to Alan reveals that Amanda has to leave the castle
for personal reasons. I went online, by the way, I
asked chat shept, what the hell happened to her? She
had to leave for medical reasons? And I asked, well,
why for medical reasons? And Eventually, she went on social
media and said it was because she had COVID.

Speaker 4 (20:04):
So I'm really sorry to hear that. However, I wanted
something much juice here.

Speaker 3 (20:09):
Yes, yeah, I'm got to believe way back things as
the first. You know, it's closer to COVID that they
were testing them all the time.

Speaker 4 (20:15):
Like when I was on.

Speaker 5 (20:16):
We didn't get tested once I ended up with.

Speaker 4 (20:18):
COVID and sick.

Speaker 5 (20:20):
I ended up with COVID and ended up having to
you know, stick it out.

Speaker 4 (20:24):
Well, I didn't get I.

Speaker 5 (20:26):
Didn't get sent home.

Speaker 4 (20:27):
You got lucky. We got to see more of you.

Speaker 5 (20:29):
I would have been able to come back and play when.

Speaker 4 (20:31):
I wasn't sick.

Speaker 2 (20:32):
If they're listening, can somebody please bring me back. I
can't beg enough.

Speaker 4 (20:36):
I'm trying to going back. Sit down, I want to
go back.

Speaker 5 (20:39):
I'm trying to get Paul on Irish Traders.

Speaker 4 (20:41):
I will.

Speaker 5 (20:41):
I am in wells need to go back.

Speaker 1 (20:44):
Yeah, we deserve it.

Speaker 4 (20:47):
You played, Damn.

Speaker 3 (20:49):
I was dead to the world, so I didn't. I
didn't My personality wasn't there. Well, we missed out. Then
maybe it was better.

Speaker 1 (20:58):
Produce sorial mind that I I've got. I'm wondering. I'm
not wondering. I know, I know exactly what happened. They
didn't think Amanda was going to be leaving. They needed
to kill someone that night. The second that they got
rid of two people in one day, the numbers became off,
if so fact, so the episodes that have been off,

(21:18):
we have to throw in a curve ball. We got
to figure out a way to not kill somebody but
still make it fun. Here comes Alan into the turret
when he tells everyone, Hey, listen, just so you know,
I need you to put three names up on trial.
We're going to murder one of them. At the end
of the day, we get back to normal numbers. Everything
is fine. At the end of episode six, that's.

Speaker 5 (21:40):
What I was going to say. Yeah, pretty switch it up.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
So we okay having said that, and that was brilliant
and it worked and it did everything that it was
supposed to do.

Speaker 4 (21:52):
But they must have been told to overreact or to react.
And did you see Christian Dan Oh my god, wait,
plea mean went back and when he when Alan entered
the turret.

Speaker 3 (22:06):
Yeah, I was like, when I found out it was Alan,
I'm like, why were they having this over the top
reaction I got secondhand, third hand twenty five embarrassments hand,
I don't know what you want to call it. It
was off the charts, but it sucked you in. It
sucked you in it. They left on a clifhanger. You
don't know who's walking through that door?

Speaker 1 (22:23):
Hey, you do?

Speaker 4 (22:24):
Because I know I know?

Speaker 3 (22:25):
Well yeah, and then you you know, go on to
episode six and who is it? None other than Alan
walking through the door in the turret and they're like the.

Speaker 4 (22:34):
Shake shit shake shit up.

Speaker 1 (22:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (22:37):
But but honestly, the reactions, they were definitely told to
react and they're not actors or acted, but it was
just really funny, Like it was funny back in. Look,
no I remember, I'm like, I want everyone to see
what I saw.

Speaker 3 (22:51):
They acted like the Grim Reaper or something was coming
through the door. It was really weird reaction.

Speaker 4 (22:56):
Now, yeah, weird.

Speaker 3 (22:57):
As we go into episode six and knowing that Alan
walks in and tells them what's going on, Alan throwing
that twist? Do you think my first thought was, Oh shit,
that's going to save Cody. It's going to save Cody
because they're going to be concentrating on these three girls,
and then Cody's going to be put in the back
of people's minds, and this could save.

Speaker 4 (23:16):
Him for a little while that we know how that
turned out.

Speaker 1 (23:20):
Yeah, I mean, so they put Kate's name, Rachel's name,
an Angelica's name into the hat. They think that this
is the smartest idea in the history of ideas for
some reason, if.

Speaker 5 (23:30):
You were Cody, would you put your name into that hut?

Speaker 1 (23:32):
So I think that you should have put a trader
in there, and it should be the trader that might
have the most heat on them, because then it can
get the heat off of them a little.

Speaker 4 (23:42):
Right.

Speaker 2 (23:43):
Well, that's what I thought for the future. After this,
then they think of another season. They think, because somebody's
been picked by the traders, that one of them is
a trader. I thought about that too. That did happen
in another season. It happened in another season. So it's
because when things happen, then the next season that comes

(24:03):
along they think that that's like the standard rule.

Speaker 3 (24:07):
At first, I thought, oh, they can only pig faithfuls.
But then I'm like, but if they only pick faithfuls,
that's proven that those three girls, maybe of just one leaves,
it shows other two girls are faithfuls.

Speaker 1 (24:19):
We get to the breakfast table, Kate makes fun of
Rachel's outfit, which is mean but also freaking hilarious. Andy's
the last person to walk through the door, so they
assume Cody's been murdered, but then all of a sudden, knock, knock,
here's Cody. That must have sucked being a trader and
then also being the last one to come in there,
because if everyone's looking at you, you know right, Oh yeah, yeah,

(24:40):
but no, no, let me go in with the for people.

Speaker 2 (24:43):
There's there was a theory that the trader never walks
in last.

Speaker 5 (24:48):
Oh really, I didn't hear that. But did you catch
Angelica when she says at breakfast.

Speaker 4 (24:53):
Do you think someone's going to be murdered?

Speaker 3 (24:56):
Well, that's what happens every morning, So they obviously knew
that this girl went home home and they thought, oh,
maybe nobody's getting murdered today.

Speaker 4 (25:03):
I'm like, why would they leave that in there?

Speaker 1 (25:06):
Well, they don't.

Speaker 4 (25:06):
I guess they don't catch everything.

Speaker 1 (25:08):
But also I think that everyone probably knew. So I
knew that she was sick because I'm sure they all
started getting tested to make sure that they were safe, right,
so they knew something was up right, so we had
to probably leave.

Speaker 4 (25:20):
That makes sense.

Speaker 5 (25:21):
Yeah, now we had somebody go home. We had the boxer.

Speaker 4 (25:26):
He went home.

Speaker 2 (25:27):
Yet a more interesting reason, a way more interesting reason.

Speaker 5 (25:31):
We'll get to that when we recap. But I don't
remember what they did, Like for the numbers, they.

Speaker 4 (25:36):
Had to have done something. I just can't remember what
it was.

Speaker 1 (25:40):
It might have been drafting another trader. Maybe I can't remember,
but you have to do some recruitment. Oh, they brought
Kate in. They brought Kate back.

Speaker 4 (25:51):
That's what we're back.

Speaker 2 (25:52):
That's what it was, because then the numbers were you
know they brought in this new season.

Speaker 1 (25:57):
Well, the implication is that someone had to leave on
it expectedly. Right, If that doesn't happen, they don't need
to bring somebody in.

Speaker 2 (26:04):
True, ye, true, unless well no, but sometimes there's no
rhyme or reason with this game. You'll never be able
to figure out really why or what's coming next, because
then they're not doing their job.

Speaker 1 (26:25):
Going back to what you were talking about with they've
never had a trader come in last. There is a
program note that I have for them, that is, you
usually have the two people that could possibly go home
come in last, because you want to see that drama

(26:45):
of the group not knowing who it's going to be,
and then also the viewer who knows that it was
coming down to a couple people be confused as to
who it's going to be. So going forward, if I
was one of the last two people in, I'm thinking, well,
I was up for potential murder last time.

Speaker 4 (27:02):
Yeah, I was up for potential murder so many times.
Yeah were Oh my.

Speaker 1 (27:08):
God, were you so you were coming through the door.

Speaker 2 (27:11):
Yes, I do remember. I was supposed to walk down
with Derinda and then she just never showed up. I
walked in with Robin and me, and then that's when
Durin didn't come behind me.

Speaker 4 (27:29):
So yeah, I was last one time.

Speaker 1 (27:31):
The three ladies find out that they are in trouble.
Right Alan gives Kate, Angelica, and Rachel a letter from
the Traders telling them they're on trial. Kate thinks this
is amazing. Angelica starts crying because that's what Angelica does.

Speaker 5 (27:47):
Kate banging send me home, please, sang.

Speaker 4 (27:51):
And the funny.

Speaker 2 (27:52):
The funny thing is when they picked Angelica to put
down her name, They're like, she's just so emotional, let's
get rid of her.

Speaker 4 (27:59):
Yeah, I think that's what they said.

Speaker 5 (28:00):
And then to have the two people that hate each
other the most in the castle be picked is good.

Speaker 4 (28:07):
I like that.

Speaker 1 (28:08):
Mm hmmm, I like that. Kate says, this is there
get out of Castle free card, like she's being held
there against her will. She's real got a prisoner of
the state. Stephanie is still convinced that Cody's a trader.
The group heads out for the mission. They have to
go full Donkey Kong and just like push a bunch
of barrels up a mountain. This looks like this hard.

Speaker 4 (28:30):
This reminds me of like a Spartan race.

Speaker 3 (28:32):
Yeah, and you have Kate refusing to participate, like, yeah,
she's giving zero apps.

Speaker 5 (28:38):
She's I mean, she's on trial and she's like, no
amount of money.

Speaker 2 (28:42):
She goes, there's no amount of money that's gonna have
me push a barrel up hil Yeah.

Speaker 6 (28:48):
Yeah, I feel there's a little bit of acting going
on there. Honestly, she's like she was throwing it out.
She didn't want it. She wanted to get on everyone's
nerve enough to get sent home.

Speaker 4 (29:01):
She had enough. She was hysterical.

Speaker 1 (29:04):
Okay, hold on, I'm talking to two housewives here. Okay,
And I've done enough for reality TV shows to know
that you know what's going on here, and that is
this is a woman who has had so much positive
affirmation for bad behavior on TV that she is continuing
to do this.

Speaker 5 (29:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (29:25):
It's not that she is too good for the money,
it's not that she really wants to go home. It's
that she knows that doing this gets her a lot
of screen.

Speaker 4 (29:34):
Time, it gets her attention.

Speaker 5 (29:36):
Yes, and that's what I say.

Speaker 1 (29:38):
There's a little bit of genius in what she's doing
because no one thinks that she's a trader because she's
so bad at this, and no one thinks that she's
not a faithful because she wants to leave so badly,
So no one can think that she is anything but
faithful because of the way that she's acting. And I

(30:00):
think that, as annoyed as I would be if I
was her teammate, I would be like, props to you,
because you're playing this game so much smarter than all
of us.

Speaker 3 (30:10):
Yeah, it's sort of personality, don't you think, Like people
are like, oh, she could be a trader. This is
how she is on other shows, Like she's just being
an asshole to be an asshole.

Speaker 5 (30:21):
But now it doesn't stand too.

Speaker 2 (30:23):
A big point to take in a lot of the
people that are here together. Not everybody watches all the
shows that are there. So one of the things is
like I never watched The Big Brother or Survivor, Like
they don't really know how.

Speaker 4 (30:38):
She really is.

Speaker 2 (30:39):
Yeah, a lot of them don't know. A lot of
them don't watch Below Dack or Housewives. They just think
we're annoying too. We're bitches.

Speaker 1 (30:51):
I love what Kate's doing, but throwing like the barrels
that she's like carrying into the grass is very annoying
if you're trying to gather money, right, yeah, player, Yeah,
there's this turn with the faithfuls and the traders, is
that like, I don't care what she is, get her
out of here. She's not helping us like make more money. Yeah,

(31:13):
And to that, I'm like, it's a good argument. I
don't even care what you are. I just think you
get out of here.

Speaker 4 (31:19):
But she's a.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
Good shield right now, sirih likes her as a shield.
Sarah's all four keeping Kate around and that's the smart move.
But I remember Bob the drag Queen once said, worse
than a trader is bad faithful and that's the truth.

Speaker 1 (31:36):
M Yeah, I don't know, but I don't know for who,
for faithfuls or for traders, because I do think that
Kate is amazing for traders because she's constantly keeping attention
on her and it makes it really hard for faithfuls
to look elsewhere because they're always talking about the annoyance
of Kate. Right, So to me, she is great faithful

(32:01):
for traders, but she's a terrible faithful for faithfuls.

Speaker 4 (32:05):
Well, Bob the.

Speaker 2 (32:06):
Drag Queen said that when he was professing to be
a faithful So yes, yeah, gotcha.

Speaker 4 (32:11):
Yeah, so that makes sense. You figured it out?

Speaker 2 (32:14):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, No, I mean it's the dynamics of everybody,
everybody's personalities, their weaknesses, their strengths.

Speaker 5 (32:22):
Hit around mid season, right, how many episodes are.

Speaker 4 (32:26):
There all together?

Speaker 1 (32:26):
I think twelve?

Speaker 2 (32:28):
Okay, so we're we're six in, so we're halfway through,
and now we know everyone's personalities, we know everybody's strengths,
and we know pretty much we could.

Speaker 4 (32:38):
Try to figure out how this is going to go.

Speaker 2 (32:40):
And as of right now, I do think that when
a trader hasn't been found out for a bit then
they start to turn on each other because now they
get nervous.

Speaker 4 (32:51):
We see them into the wire.

Speaker 2 (32:53):
So now you see we're halfway through and series like,
I'm gonna get rid of him. I'm gonna get rid
of Cody because I don't want a target on me,
but he's got it. But when I do that, he
cannot survive the roundtable. When we found our first trader,
it had a lot to do with another trader, Boston

(33:13):
Rob turning on Bob the drag Queen.

Speaker 3 (33:15):
At a certain point, I think you have to, yeah,
because everybody was convinced it was Cody. Pretty not everybody,
but most people were so for to Surrey just to
up for some random would be sus.

Speaker 1 (33:27):
It goes back to my point that I made in
the beginning of the episode that it's so hard for
a trader to get banished because they have the numbers.
And when it does happen, especially first, which it looks
is going to happen here and then it happened on
our season, do you have to have a trader go
against in their trader for the numbers to make sense, right,
And it looks like that's what's going to end up

(33:49):
happening with Cody.

Speaker 2 (33:50):
Right, So once the traders see somebody in their circle
is being targeted. See, they never will trust each other.
Evil can't stay with evil.

Speaker 3 (34:00):
Haven't we seen that though in other seasons where a
trader goes against a trader and they weren't vanished, And
then when you have to face each other at the turret,
you're like.

Speaker 4 (34:08):
Hate each other, hate each other.

Speaker 2 (34:10):
So now now you find the traders because they start
to turn on each other and they really start to
give the other people in the circles of talking. They
start to give pretty valid and it's not just guesses, right,
it's pretty valid arguments on who they're picking out to
be the trader. But as a faithful you always have

(34:31):
to remember the only way somebody will know one hundred
percent another person's a trader is if they're a trader too.
Now that is if I was to go back, I
would definitely pay attention to that one thing that somebody says,
I know one hundred percent that Cody's a trader. Yeah,

(34:52):
now you just nailed two traders right there, the one
telling you and the one he's telling you about.

Speaker 1 (34:58):
So let's get back to this episode. They decide to
give the Armory passes to Rachel, to Angelica and to Ari. Regardless,
Ari gets the shield, which means that Rachel and Angelica
are aft. Everyone continues to talk in groups. Cody and
Quinn talk. Cody wants to banish Rachel tonight. So Cody's
just kind of like all over the place. I guess

(35:19):
Quinn doesn't think that Cody is a trader. And then
Christian and Serious stand outside the front door and they
start talking. Christian kind of unveils it. He's like, I
might have to vote for Cody. My thing is this
is if I was a trader, I'd be so nervous
to be caught talking with THEE to each other. Yeah,
that's a bold move, but.

Speaker 5 (35:39):
Nobody knows you're traders, so no, it's like, be in
your own mind.

Speaker 4 (35:43):
It is a bold move.

Speaker 2 (35:44):
But everybody scurries off into the corners, faithfuls and traders,
and you know that one person that they trust. They're
talking to each other and yeah, and of course now
we're watching it as non players.

Speaker 4 (36:00):
It is different. But I don't know that.

Speaker 2 (36:02):
I'd be so so sass on somebody who was in
the corner talking to somebody else.

Speaker 1 (36:10):
It just gives me anxiety when I watch it. Regardless,
Christian tells Siri that he's going to vote for Cody
because his name's being thrown out way too much. He's
being too emotional, which I don't think he's wrong about.
It's amazing that Christian has made this kind of like
one pint eighty for me and how I feel about
him as a person and as a trader. Everyone gathers
on the round table. Kate says she wants to leave

(36:31):
and is voting for Rachel, which is has such an
amazing tactic. I guess she's working over time to get
the hell out of there. She does not want to
be here. She can't be bothered to be in that stacks.

Speaker 4 (36:42):
I can't say it enough. I know you're going to
get sick of me. Sane, I love Kate. I want
to share this, say is I love Kate.

Speaker 1 (36:50):
Siriah says she doesn't think Rachel or Kate are traders,
and Cody asks Siri who she thinks the trader is,
and then we're last on a.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
Cliffhang, I'm kind of curious why did he ask her that?

Speaker 1 (37:04):
I don't know what I wonder knows that traders are
gonna be coming after him.

Speaker 4 (37:10):
How could he know and why would he ask that.

Speaker 1 (37:14):
I think he knows he's in trouble. I think he
knows he's in trouble with what he did with Kyle.
I think he knows that everyone's on to him the
second that that happens. If you're the weak trader, then
you're the guy that the other traders are going to
weed out because they don't want to be associated with you.
And I wonder if he's doing this because he wants
to block Syrian to this. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (37:34):
I don't know, but it's a ballsy move for a
trader to go for another trader at that table. But
she knows she's got to get rid of one of
them because they're both kind of like not on her
level as a trader. I have to say they are
doing well, well, they're doing great so far. I cannot
wait to finally see one of the traders get nailed.

Speaker 1 (37:54):
No, hopefully it happens soon.

Speaker 4 (37:56):
Looks like if I had to guess Cody's going I think.

Speaker 1 (37:59):
Cody and Christian both are long for this world.

Speaker 4 (38:03):
That's a nice way of putting it.

Speaker 2 (38:04):
Well, we'll see how that all happens and I'm looking
forward to it. And like I said, I did start
this seventh episode and I said, no, no, no, I
don't want to do this.

Speaker 4 (38:13):
I want to do Is that crazy?

Speaker 3 (38:15):
After watching two hours of TV, which I'm not great
at watching TV because I have to watch so much
of it for my podcast, I'm like, I'm going to
watch the next episode.

Speaker 2 (38:23):
Yeah, yeah, I mean I really got hooked, all right,
So we're looking forward to the next time, guys.

Speaker 5 (38:29):
Yeah, we're all off schedule now, so it's like normally,
you know, we see somebody get banished and murdered, you know,
from this is like we didn't even get to see
who about banished this episode.

Speaker 4 (38:39):
So we're going to catch up.

Speaker 2 (38:40):
We got two episodes to watch till the next time
we meet and have all our theories going on. Then.

Speaker 1 (38:46):
Yeah, So for all you listeners out there, watch episode
seven and episode eight to be caught up for the
next episode of By Order of the Faithfuls. Don't forget
to follow us on social media at By Orders of
the Faithful.

Speaker 4 (38:58):
Right in your thoughts here, I want to hear and I.

Speaker 1 (39:01):
Want to know what you guys think. All right, ladies,
We'll have a wonderful week and you too. I guess
we'll see you next week, see you next week, all

Speaker 4 (39:07):
Right, bye bye m h m hm m m h
m hmm.
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