November 21, 2025 • 30 mins
Wells and Dolores are interviewing their very first traitor and seeing the game through a different lens…
Carolyn Wiger, the most authentic traitor we’ve seen in the turret, is opening up about the way she plays these competition games and how it feels when people continuously underestimate her.
Why did Carolyn have a love/hate relationship with being a traitor? What is the biggest mistake she made in the game? Would she go back?!
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Welcome in all you faithfuls and traders. Another episode of
By Order of the Faithfuls and Wells Adams that I'm
alongside the newly engaged Dolores.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Congratulations, Thank you, Wells. I'm feeling very romantic. I know
you know. Yeah, I may have a picture behind me
like yours soon, we don't know. Look at that. I've
made fun of you for that. Now I'm gonna eat it.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Yeah, uh huh, I love it.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
I love you guys, Thank you, and thank you for
congratulating me. I'm very excited and I was very surprised.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Can you tell us how it all went down? And
were you surprised?
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Beyond wells, I had no clue, so he kind of reenacted,
basically reenacted. The first day we met, we met at
the Apple Store. We were supposed to go on a date.
Both our phones broke at the same time, and we
met at the I went to get it fixed. He
was there and we started talking at the Apple Store
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and that's how it all wound up. And we then
we went out to dinner at night to a place
called Rocos. So he wanted it to be sentimental. And
when I got to the Apple Store, because he told
me I was buying a new phone, and I was
in a hurry to get back to do a podcast
for two teas. He started being very like emotional, left
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the store and telling the ladies there how we met
and we met here, and I'm like, oh, yeah, imagine
if we got engaged here. So then he started saying
even more beautiful things, and I had I thought he
was having a stroke wells, because you know, we don't
talk like that to each other. So I was like,
are you okay? And I touched his shirt and it
was soaking wet, and then he started to say, You've
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made my life better. And I was like, what's going on?
And I looked around and then all of a sudden,
cameras came out. The whole store was in on it,
and he got down on one knee and I came
home to a thousand roses through the whole house, wow
candles and more photographers. And then later on that night
(02:08):
we went out to dinner to Rocos Steakhouse and we
had the same waiter, the same bottle of wine, and
flowers at the same table.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
So well lovely. I mean, it's like a modern day
You've got mail.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
It was I know who gets engaged at the Apple store,
and you know, it hit me because you know we're
in the public eye, as you know well, and you
know we all take a lot of heat. I'm like,
oh my god, I hope no one makes fun of
him or picks on him for doing this because it
was so beautiful and it really was the sentiment behind it,
and it wasn't on a beach, and it wasn't fireworks
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and all this stuff, but it meant the world to me,
and it's been a pretty nice response to it all.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
So I'm excited, Lovely, And I know you're not say
congratulations when you get engaged. I don't think so, because
you didn't win anything like one person didn't win something else.
That's what I was explained to me. But anyways, I'm
just happy for both of you, and may you know
you have a long and loving marriage. And you have
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a picture like I've got one behind me.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Some day You're going to tell you something when this
does happen. I'm going to reenact that picture because I
think it manifested because I am always staring at it.
Beyind you, like the whole podcast, Sometimes I doze off
like you're talking or tamage talking and I'm looking at
your picture. I think that's the reason I got engaged.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Well, my picture is is my wife and I holding
my handkerchief that was given to us and it was
it was needle pointed our dogs on it, and it
was like a really cute thing. So I think you
and your soon to be husband need to be holding
maybe an iPhone that's say like hear me, I'll be appropriate,
you know what.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
I think that's a good idea. You're very creative and
I appreciate that, so I'll come to you for more ideas.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Yes, I'm happy for you. I'm excited about this episode
today for all you traders out there, We're going to
be welcoming in one of the best, one of the
greats from season three, also contestant from Survivor season forty four.
She is big on TV, big in person, actually a
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lovely person to be around. I really have a short
time being on the show, but really loved being around her.
Please welcome into by order of the Faithfuls. Carolyn.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Hi, you guys look cute? Is that the dress code?
His little hats?
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (04:38):
No, the thing is Carolyn. I just got back from
Bravo con and I look really bad, so he looks
cute and a hot I have one hiding myself. Carolyn.
We're so happy to have you. I know it's a
big treat for us.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
I'm excited to be here, but I got I'm a
little pissed, to be honest, because is this like I
want to be I want to talk about the real episodes.
I because I looked on y'all's thing and I'm like, yes,
they're done, like talking about the past. And then I
was like, shit, but the season hasn't started, so that
wouldn't make sense to be here to talk about the
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current season. But then I was like, shit, so call
me back for an episode or are you guys not
having people at that time?
Speaker 1 (05:24):
It starts, yeah, we're definitely having you back. I just
wanted I wanted to ask you, Carolyn, because you don't
often do interviews, and I was wondering why you agreed
to come on on this show.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
What do you mean?
Speaker 3 (05:38):
I don't like doing this shit. I do this stuff
for fun, and I don't like first of all, and
then I started a thing where I was like, donate
to this chair, and then I'm like, I'm not fucking rich.
What the fuck am I doing? Like, don't you not here?
Speaker 2 (05:50):
But I know, like, it was so nice of you
to come on because it's a tree and you're like
an icon. And by the way, you're so beautiful.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
You're just my lips are so fucking fake that I
got to get some of this filler out. I am
seeing the tarty for the party.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
You think why they think you look like Kim Kelsiak.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Yeah, like, she's literally like twenty years older than me.
What is it do I look to like nineteen ninety?
I think it's because.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Your hair is long and blonde.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
It's I'm not wearing a wig.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Though.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
You guys are both beautiful and I thoroughly enjoyed getting
to do two episodes of with you. Guys.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
You've been on Traders and Survivor, but you played an
incredible season three as a Trader. I mean it was unreal.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Yeah, a girl, where the hell were you with helping
me out?
Speaker 2 (06:43):
You helped me? Now, I didn't know it until I
watched it.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Okay, real quick to start this interview with the The
only question that I really have for you, Carolyn is
one question, well, I mean I want, but the one
that the egocentricity that I have right now, it has
to do with me. You know, the final you were
the final vote against me to be banished, and I
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want I just want to know, like was that the plan?
Were you guys trying to get rid of me? What
was going on? Because it came down to you and
you said something you're like really wells and then you
put my name down. Why did you vote for me?
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Because I had to? And so for me like you don't.
I didn't want to be I started the game a
little bit crazy. I'm like accusing people before we picked
the traders. I wanted Boston Robin. People are already kind
of like like what is wrong with her? Well, they
probably thought that the whole time, and so it was
just like for me, I have to go with the group.
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I have to did I want? Like no? But sometimes
it's like Okay, I could see that all the votes
were going that way, and so what was I suppor
like did I know? I thought it was stupid. I
didn't want to do it. And that's what's so frustrating
about this game is like like there's so many different
types of people and stuff, like you were a victim
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of like it just it doesn't make sense and it's
got to be someone and no one wants it to
be them, and it sucks. So much of this is luck,
So much of this is luck. It's it truly is.
But did I want to vote? You know you had
just bought a pack of SIGs too. I wanted to smoke.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Like I you had cigarettes.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
I was like, we had been talking about SIGs and
we were craving one. But no, I didn't want to
vote that way. There's plenty of other people that I
probably would have, like girl, but it's like group consensus,
the majority, and I hate that. It's boring. So I
slowly was I died inside this season, but ah, it's
not fun. But like Kevin, your random at votes, that
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probably was a lot.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
I didn't vote for you, by the way. I don't
know if you remember that, but I mean a lot
of people wouldn't feel comfortable being so authentic on TV.
I'm on reality TV. I'm myself unapologetically like you. But
how do you stay true to yourself when you're a
trader because you have to lie?
Speaker 3 (09:21):
And that's what I struggled, which good Like I'm very
open about getting my period on the breakfast chair.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
I know, and you and I had a thing when
you got there. You were very Do you remember that.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
You helped me? And I told people this like if
and imagine it's my first breakfast, you know, and it's
looking like a crime scene. Where I sat down, I
got up and it was like just and I know wells,
but you know that women exist and we have stuff
that comes out, and so it was everywhere and it
was bad, and it was really I just froze and
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I started crying. And it was Dolores who helped me
and was like, she needs to go upstairs. I didn't
know what to do. I was like, but I would
have been fine if they even put that on the show.
I don't care. It's real life.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
I know they missed out. They missed it hard.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
So as far as being my authentic self, like I
don't know any other way, and like I'm just gonna
be real, Like it's such a different world. You guys
all live in this like like it's true. Everyone's talking
about like our trips to hear and our trips and
I'm like, I literally live in Minnesota, Like I don't
can't relate to this shit. So as far as like
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I am a very emotional person and I know that
I like we'll connect with people, and like I feel
bad and I hated it. So like my thing is
like I don't want to get to know these people.
I don't because first of all, like it's just it
would be way too hard to like go and murder
and blah blah. That's always so pissed about this wearing
on kids scrap because I was like, ain't no way
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these housewives understand that type.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Of No I didn't. I did not in no way,
shape or form it did I.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
Know, And so I just felt like like for me,
I wanted to just I knew that it would be hard.
I cried. I mean I cried a lot. I know
Robin was like what is wrong with you? And I
miss my dog and shit, but like I she didn't sit,
not in a mean way, but I was like it
was I didn't want to. Like I thought that this
show truly was like more of a fun like happy
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go lucky. I didn't expect all of like the drama.
I didn't and call me naive, but I saw the
previous seasons and obviously season one there's some heartache. But
I just felt like, why is it so serious all
the time. I just wanted it to be more like lighthearted.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
We all want that when we sign up for housewives too,
but it doesn't work.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
That doesn't make for good television. Looking you know, when
I look back on this season, I was very critical
of the Traders. That was one of the reasons why
I think I got aust is because I thought that
the Traders had made some bad decisions in the beginning,
and I was vocal about it. But looking back, I
thought that you wore the smartest Trader and like your
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instincts were correct. But then also getting to know you
pretty well the show and just from what you just said,
the show affected you. Looking back, you obviously wanted to
be a Trader coming in, but would you have rather
been a Faithful after you've done the show?
Speaker 3 (12:18):
No? Hell noing no, I don't want to be no
damn faithful with Dylan and his No. Heck no, I
ain't ain't about that. I just wanted, like I and
truly when they asked like, do you want to be
a Trader or Faithful? I was like, yeah, put some
Housewives in here. I wanted it because to me, that
would be fun. I wanted it to be like we're
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like messing around in there, and like.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
We want to have fun together doing fun stuff.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
So again I wasn't thinking like we gotta think thirty stepside.
This is the way it is so for me. I yes,
I'm not a perfect speaker. I am very I mean,
I stutter, I cry a lot, I'm emotional, I'm like
a lot whatever. It was hard for me to even
get a word out sometimes in there, and so I
get it.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
I'm but you were right, you know what, Carolyn, You
were right, and they didn't listen to you. You told
them stop voting for the housewives. We weren't a threat,
but they were doing it. They wasted a lot of
a lot of murders on housewives who were no threat
to them, who could have been shields at the roundtable.
I know the game now, but you were the smart one.
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And I watched you on Survivor back when we're going
to get to that, and I saw the same thing
happened to you. There. We were sitting with two guys
I forget who it was, my friend Bust and Rob,
and you were eating like a mango and you were
like trying to talk and people were talking over you.
So I know that about you, but I want you
to moving forward. You just have a lot more confidence
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because you're fucking smart girl.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
I know when I say I do, I do, it's that.
Do you think it doesn't get me? Like ann eat
as shit? Like I hate because it's not that like
I walk around because I hate that when people are
like she's just always playing the victim. I'm not playing them.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Not confidence. I take that back, but you know, no,
it was okay.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
I do believe in myself. I do think I'm great,
but it's sometimes like I kind of know, like they
they ain't gonna budge or they're not gonna listen, and
how long do I want to stay in the goddamn
turret with these people? So yeah, that's a big thing too.
We're not getting anything.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
People don't understand that. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
And there was only probably one time where I was
like I eat budgeting and I'm not moving And that
was about Brittany coming in. But I was like I
don't want to. I was like, I am tired as hell.
I can't even like think and so if if, how
long do I want to argue in the turret? Like
hell no, but I do believe in myself. But yes,
it's like the story of my goddamn life that like again,
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I play these games like I was myself and then
I get like, it's like, what the fuck is the
point if I get, you know, far in a game,
but nobody takes me seriously or listens. It's like, well,
get to the end, and then.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Well you got there, you got really far, you know.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
What I mean. Like, so that's where I was hard
on myself. But like, no, this game, like I am
grateful it didn't like fuck me up or anything. I
just wish it was more more like fun and crazy
and like do like tripping people and stuff like that,
not like so intense gamer, Like I don't think that's
fun to watch, like the super intense people that are
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Like I don't know about you, but I got really
bad anxiety out there with Danielle. I just did it.
Was like this shouldn't be the serious and I get
that it's a game and blah blah blah, but like
we don't need to. It can still be fun and
have a little bit of drama without crying all the time.
And I cried too, but you.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Know, would you do it again?
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Oh? Absolutely? I loved it like as much as I
like do Why do I did? I seem really fucked up.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
No, I'm just asking if you do it again because
I would.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
Oh, like please, girl. I thought it was awesome and
just everything is so like it's it's so incredible, everything,
the attention to detail, the set, the I loved it,
like I truly loved it. But I'm okay being like
the freaky person on TV because like when I watch
reality TV, I want to see people be real. I
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want to see and again, a lot of people I
think are I don't know, embarrassed to admit certain things
or they want to look perfect, and it's like that
shit's not relatable and so I would rather be my
freak as self that I think that it is. You know,
you go into group settings and it's like you want
to like have everyone. No, not that ain't like that
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for me. I go into group settings and it's like
who's that? Or like you know what I mean? I don't,
but I'm not gonna try to be all like to
fit in with people. That's not too exhausting.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Do you think people underestimate you?
Speaker 3 (17:00):
I think yeah, which is fine, which is what I
want right right, mass games. But of course I think
because I'm playing as myself, of course it like hurts
my feelings sometimes, but like.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
You know, it's an advantage though in the game that
this Like Michael Jordan and Tom Brady used to do
this a lot, where they would create these things about
like so and so said this or this team said this,
and create this drama in their head to give them
like moxie and energy to win. And I feel like
that's what you do. I feel like you know that
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you're an amazing game player and you're using this to
like trick yourself into like figure out a way win.
Does that make sense?
Speaker 3 (17:52):
Trust me? Like again, I it's one of those things
like my personality helps my gameplay. It's it's I'm authentic,
like I'm not playing like a character, you know what
I'm saying. And so that's like I know that like
just being me is gonna nobody thought. Everybody thought like
there's no way she could do this, and she can't
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keep a secret. She probably would have told everybody. By now.
It's like people just think I'm an idiot, and I
guess And that's the thing, like do I want to
change or do I now I do I go through
those these battles of like, oh, especially after I was banished,
I'm like, what the fuck is wrong with me? And
then I have to like come back and I'm like no,
like you are who you are and blah blah blah,
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like oh it's it's but I know it helps me,
but it sometimes hurts my feelings. And so it is
what it is.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
When you look back at all the you know, moves
that the Traders that you guys made, can you pinpoint
one that you thought was like the biggest misstep that
the Traders made, Bob.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
The drag Queen that early on just everything fell apart
after that, but also finding out too like Danielle was
coming for it, like just and so all of that,
and like I obviously had found out from Dylan, and
I couldn't for me my emotional like I can't go
back when someone's coming, Like I can't, I can't be like, okay,
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I trust you now. It was too hard. It was
too hard. But what's crazy is I was like, girl,
we literally were we were fine. And I always said,
like we got along fine outside of the turret, we
would it was just fine. But it was like we
went in there and personalities like you know what I mean,
everybody wanted to like yes, and it always made me
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so uncomfortable because I I remember wanting to be a
trader and I told them it like if you pick me, like,
I can't sound like Fedra. And I really was like
hard on myself, not hard on myself, but I was like,
I just want you to know, like I'm not gonna
have these like cute one line because she's very good.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
She's very ready, and I get I understand. I feel
the same way, and I know what you're saying. I
exactly get it.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
I'm like, I can't be that so like, and they're like, no,
don't worry, like we you know you're here because you're
you and all of that. But of course I'm like,
oh my gosh. So I feel like there was that
like pressure in the turret especially, and I don't know
if Danielle like really felt it, but I felt like, girl,
you're like a different person when we come in here,
and so I just was like and I never that's
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not me to be like I can't wait. It's like
who are we gonna murder? Like I just don't talk like.
It was weird for me, and maybe I should have
like gotten into the kit because poverty did it very well.
It's just not me and I really tried to like
break out of my comfort zone in that way. But
again I don't know how to do reality shows, which
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is like.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
A reality shows is about being yourself, and that's it.
That's it. It's yourself. And even in this game, in
all the games, I think that you play, it's yourself
that gets you there. So why would you be anybody
but Carolyn, You're You're like people go crazy over you.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
I also think when people start acting differently than they
normally are, that's a big tell that something is not right,
you know. So I think that you played it exactly
exactly correct in my mind.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Oh what yeah, I would you have done anything different?
Speaker 3 (21:39):
I would have like I always had Sandra's voice in
my head, because Sandra from Season two, because she's like, girl,
don't you be talking because I'm a talker, and so
she was like, don't say stuff or bring stuff up
at the round table. It's gonna get you banished. So
just just don't like kind of lay low. But that's
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boring as shit, And so I kind of get where
like Bob the Drake Queen like went all wild and
like that was probably fun. Even though you know he
was out quick, It's like he probably had a hell
of a time doing it versus like, I mean, I
was dying inside, like just feeling like I couldn't, like,
you know, just say things or accuse people or that's
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what you want to do, and I felt so just
like I gotta be quiet. So I really I that sucked,
and I regret, like just protecting Tom.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
You regret protecting him what? He's an asshole to me?
And he's still an asshole. He's a fucking asshole. That's why, yep.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
And everybody warned me and me especially who I fucking
hate cheaters, Okay, like they trigger me. They pissed me off.
They and everyone's like he is a nurseissist too. So
I'm like, you know what, I've been judged my whole life.
I've people like treat me a certain way because of
my past. I'm not going to do that. Well, it
turns out.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
I went in the same way with him, Carolyn, And
then you know, when I see him, it's nice and
it's cordial, but he just like fucking ripped me apart
on a Traders panel at Barabokime.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
No.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
Yeah, he's like, you didn't even Uh what did he say?
He kept shitting on me about how I played the
missions and what else did he say? He's like, you
didn't first of all, I played the missions hard. Don't
tell me. I mean, I did everything, But I forget
what he said, and I don't know we got into
it on the Traders panel anyway. That's that's that's not
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about us. This is all about you and I just
you've been such an inspiration to so many people. You're
so open about your past and dealing with your addiction,
and you've used it now to be a life coach,
which is really a blessing. I know so many people
you're like number She's like number one on cameo.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Else not anymore, I need to get something for a
long time. Well, hey, I'm typically in the like I do.
Well though, there's not a day that I've ever had.
There's never been like a day where I don't get
a cameo request or something, do you know what I mean?
At least one? But typically I have it like I do,
I do a lot.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
So why don't you.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Have a very unique voice and a lot of people
were doing imitations of you on social media. I thought
they were hilarious. I was wondering how you felt about it,
like in the moment cool.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
So this is the truth because and this is where
like people like don't, I don't really give a shit
what people believe. I don't read or search my name
because I don't need to read that I'm a crackhead.
Of course, there is a lot of great things. But
if I put all of this stock into like the
positive things people say, what happens when it stops and
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what happens if I put all of my life so
work into it, so I don't search. And so during Survivor,
I had so many people like uh, calling me a crackhead,
saying my brain was fried from drugs, saying just so
much shit. I stopped, like, I don't search my name
at all, and so I remember I didn't, and I
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would tell my family don't send me articles with what
people say. I don't care. I need to love myself.
And if I can't love myself without the attention of
other people or like the well people you don't even know, right, No,
So I don't want to give it the energy. And
so I truly when the season was airing, And this
is literally the truth. And I didn't even know people
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liked me after Survivor until the cameo hit and I
had so many that it couldn't sleep, and so it
hasn't stopped. And it's one of those things like I
wouldn't have known otherwise, Like I truly thought I was
the freaky weirdo who was playing a fucking game. So
with Traders, I had so many people telling me like,
you gotta see this and you gotta see this, and
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I wasn't finding them unless people would send them to me.
And it's the same with like the Danielle drama because
that came to like people were like, you need to
like calm your fans down because they're being mean to Danielle.
I wouldn't have known because I don't read that shit.
I don't otherwise, Like for what, I don't need the attention.
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I don't need to know what people think of me.
Am I gonna change because somebody doesn't like me?
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (26:25):
So, but I did get like the ball do I
I didn't even know I had an accent like that?
Is that for Minnesota?
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Obviously Survivor fifty cast has been released. Girl, So here's
my question, last question to you, would you ever go
back on Survivor? And would you ever go back on Traders?
And if you got offered both of them, which one
would you rather do?
Speaker 3 (26:49):
Good question, girl, Like, So, yeah, Survivor fifty I was cut.
That's kind of sucked. But I mean Traders was amazing.
I can't when I talk about the experience as far
as even like, and I don't know y'all come from
like shows that probably like treat you like really really well,
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and like I felt like NBC Peacocks, who is it?
Who is who's responsible for treating us so well? I
felt like a damn princess. I So besides the show
being absolutely incredible and just how much do you I
mean even think of like the producers were there tweaking
every detail and making sure the like uh the murderer
(27:33):
face to face. It was I'm like, my oh, it's
so cool. So Traders is the answer? Like, it was
so amazing, But how they treated us, how they treated me,
I felt like, this is such these are great people
who actually care.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
There's a wellness team, right, they say are you okay?
Speaker 3 (27:55):
Everything? All the support people, all of there was never
a time time where I felt and I just felt
like a queen like I loved them.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Studio Lambert, Lambert.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Listen, I gotta say yeah ITV Studio Lambert. They need
to do an all star show and you have to
be on it and I will watch that. Thank you
so much, Carolyn for coming on the show.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Thank you, kin.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
I love getting to know you, even though it was
for a short time. You are to me such like
a perfect reality TV person because you are just authentically you.
So I appreciate you for just being honest with all
of us. And please please come back when we start
recapping season four because your insight will be invaluable to
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us because we're all free.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Thank you so much, Carolyn. We're so excited that you
said you'd come back.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
By thank you, and congratulations on the engagement to go
and your new show.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
Thank you. I'm excited, so wow.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
Thank y'all.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
All right, see you, Carolyn.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
Bye.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
She's the best.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
Well how many times have you been called a girl
and you.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
Yeah, well that was probably the most. But you know what,
if anyone can pull it off, it's her. Listen. I
it broke my heart that she was the one who
got me was the final vote. But I really did
like getting to know her and hanging out with her,
and yeah, she's right, I did. I was so stressed out.
I got a pack of cigarettes and that was a
thing that happened on that show and some behind the
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scenes stuff.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Nice.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Yeah, all right, everyone out there, thanks so much for
listening to By Order of the faithfuls. If you're not
following us on social media, please do rate and review
wherever you listen to the podcast and tell your friends
and we'll be back again very soon with another episode
By Order of the Faithful.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
Bie
Welcome in all you faithfuls and traders. Another episode of
By Order of the Faithfuls and Wells Adams that I'm
alongside the newly engaged Dolores.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Congratulations, Thank you, Wells. I'm feeling very romantic. I know
you know. Yeah, I may have a picture behind me
like yours soon, we don't know. Look at that. I've
made fun of you for that. Now I'm gonna eat it.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Yeah, uh huh, I love it.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
I love you guys, Thank you, and thank you for
congratulating me. I'm very excited and I was very surprised.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Can you tell us how it all went down? And
were you surprised?
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Beyond wells, I had no clue, so he kind of reenacted,
basically reenacted. The first day we met, we met at
the Apple Store. We were supposed to go on a date.
Both our phones broke at the same time, and we
met at the I went to get it fixed. He
was there and we started talking at the Apple Store
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and that's how it all wound up. And we then
we went out to dinner at night to a place
called Rocos. So he wanted it to be sentimental. And
when I got to the Apple Store, because he told
me I was buying a new phone, and I was
in a hurry to get back to do a podcast
for two teas. He started being very like emotional, left
(01:27):
the store and telling the ladies there how we met
and we met here, and I'm like, oh, yeah, imagine
if we got engaged here. So then he started saying
even more beautiful things, and I had I thought he
was having a stroke wells, because you know, we don't
talk like that to each other. So I was like,
are you okay? And I touched his shirt and it
was soaking wet, and then he started to say, You've
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made my life better. And I was like, what's going on?
And I looked around and then all of a sudden,
cameras came out. The whole store was in on it,
and he got down on one knee and I came
home to a thousand roses through the whole house, wow
candles and more photographers. And then later on that night
(02:08):
we went out to dinner to Rocos Steakhouse and we
had the same waiter, the same bottle of wine, and
flowers at the same table.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
So well lovely. I mean, it's like a modern day
You've got mail.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
It was I know who gets engaged at the Apple store,
and you know, it hit me because you know we're
in the public eye, as you know well, and you
know we all take a lot of heat. I'm like,
oh my god, I hope no one makes fun of
him or picks on him for doing this because it
was so beautiful and it really was the sentiment behind it,
and it wasn't on a beach, and it wasn't fireworks
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and all this stuff, but it meant the world to me,
and it's been a pretty nice response to it all.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
So I'm excited, Lovely, And I know you're not say
congratulations when you get engaged. I don't think so, because
you didn't win anything like one person didn't win something else.
That's what I was explained to me. But anyways, I'm
just happy for both of you, and may you know
you have a long and loving marriage. And you have
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a picture like I've got one behind me.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Some day You're going to tell you something when this
does happen. I'm going to reenact that picture because I
think it manifested because I am always staring at it.
Beyind you, like the whole podcast, Sometimes I doze off
like you're talking or tamage talking and I'm looking at
your picture. I think that's the reason I got engaged.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Well, my picture is is my wife and I holding
my handkerchief that was given to us and it was
it was needle pointed our dogs on it, and it
was like a really cute thing. So I think you
and your soon to be husband need to be holding
maybe an iPhone that's say like hear me, I'll be appropriate,
you know what.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
I think that's a good idea. You're very creative and
I appreciate that, so I'll come to you for more ideas.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Yes, I'm happy for you. I'm excited about this episode
today for all you traders out there, We're going to
be welcoming in one of the best, one of the
greats from season three, also contestant from Survivor season forty four.
She is big on TV, big in person, actually a
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lovely person to be around. I really have a short
time being on the show, but really loved being around her.
Please welcome into by order of the Faithfuls. Carolyn.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Hi, you guys look cute? Is that the dress code?
His little hats?
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (04:38):
No, the thing is Carolyn. I just got back from
Bravo con and I look really bad, so he looks
cute and a hot I have one hiding myself. Carolyn.
We're so happy to have you. I know it's a
big treat for us.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
I'm excited to be here, but I got I'm a
little pissed, to be honest, because is this like I
want to be I want to talk about the real episodes.
I because I looked on y'all's thing and I'm like, yes,
they're done, like talking about the past. And then I
was like, shit, but the season hasn't started, so that
wouldn't make sense to be here to talk about the
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current season. But then I was like, shit, so call
me back for an episode or are you guys not
having people at that time?
Speaker 1 (05:24):
It starts, yeah, we're definitely having you back. I just
wanted I wanted to ask you, Carolyn, because you don't
often do interviews, and I was wondering why you agreed
to come on on this show.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
What do you mean?
Speaker 3 (05:38):
I don't like doing this shit. I do this stuff
for fun, and I don't like first of all, and
then I started a thing where I was like, donate
to this chair, and then I'm like, I'm not fucking rich.
What the fuck am I doing? Like, don't you not here?
Speaker 2 (05:50):
But I know, like, it was so nice of you
to come on because it's a tree and you're like
an icon. And by the way, you're so beautiful.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
You're just my lips are so fucking fake that I
got to get some of this filler out. I am
seeing the tarty for the party.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
You think why they think you look like Kim Kelsiak.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Yeah, like, she's literally like twenty years older than me.
What is it do I look to like nineteen ninety?
I think it's because.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Your hair is long and blonde.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
It's I'm not wearing a wig.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Though.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
You guys are both beautiful and I thoroughly enjoyed getting
to do two episodes of with you. Guys.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
You've been on Traders and Survivor, but you played an
incredible season three as a Trader. I mean it was unreal.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Yeah, a girl, where the hell were you with helping
me out?
Speaker 2 (06:43):
You helped me? Now, I didn't know it until I
watched it.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Okay, real quick to start this interview with the The
only question that I really have for you, Carolyn is
one question, well, I mean I want, but the one
that the egocentricity that I have right now, it has
to do with me. You know, the final you were
the final vote against me to be banished, and I
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want I just want to know, like was that the plan?
Were you guys trying to get rid of me? What
was going on? Because it came down to you and
you said something you're like really wells and then you
put my name down. Why did you vote for me?
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Because I had to? And so for me like you don't.
I didn't want to be I started the game a
little bit crazy. I'm like accusing people before we picked
the traders. I wanted Boston Robin. People are already kind
of like like what is wrong with her? Well, they
probably thought that the whole time, and so it was
just like for me, I have to go with the group.
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I have to did I want? Like no? But sometimes
it's like Okay, I could see that all the votes
were going that way, and so what was I suppor
like did I know? I thought it was stupid. I
didn't want to do it. And that's what's so frustrating
about this game is like like there's so many different
types of people and stuff, like you were a victim
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of like it just it doesn't make sense and it's
got to be someone and no one wants it to
be them, and it sucks. So much of this is luck,
So much of this is luck. It's it truly is.
But did I want to vote? You know you had
just bought a pack of SIGs too. I wanted to smoke.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Like I you had cigarettes.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
I was like, we had been talking about SIGs and
we were craving one. But no, I didn't want to
vote that way. There's plenty of other people that I
probably would have, like girl, but it's like group consensus,
the majority, and I hate that. It's boring. So I
slowly was I died inside this season, but ah, it's
not fun. But like Kevin, your random at votes, that
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probably was a lot.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
I didn't vote for you, by the way. I don't
know if you remember that, but I mean a lot
of people wouldn't feel comfortable being so authentic on TV.
I'm on reality TV. I'm myself unapologetically like you. But
how do you stay true to yourself when you're a
trader because you have to lie?
Speaker 3 (09:21):
And that's what I struggled, which good Like I'm very
open about getting my period on the breakfast chair.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
I know, and you and I had a thing when
you got there. You were very Do you remember that.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
You helped me? And I told people this like if
and imagine it's my first breakfast, you know, and it's
looking like a crime scene. Where I sat down, I
got up and it was like just and I know wells,
but you know that women exist and we have stuff
that comes out, and so it was everywhere and it
was bad, and it was really I just froze and
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I started crying. And it was Dolores who helped me
and was like, she needs to go upstairs. I didn't
know what to do. I was like, but I would
have been fine if they even put that on the show.
I don't care. It's real life.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
I know they missed out. They missed it hard.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
So as far as being my authentic self, like I
don't know any other way, and like I'm just gonna
be real, Like it's such a different world. You guys
all live in this like like it's true. Everyone's talking
about like our trips to hear and our trips and
I'm like, I literally live in Minnesota, Like I don't
can't relate to this shit. So as far as like
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I am a very emotional person and I know that
I like we'll connect with people, and like I feel
bad and I hated it. So like my thing is
like I don't want to get to know these people.
I don't because first of all, like it's just it
would be way too hard to like go and murder
and blah blah. That's always so pissed about this wearing
on kids scrap because I was like, ain't no way
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these housewives understand that type.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Of No I didn't. I did not in no way,
shape or form it did I.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
Know, And so I just felt like like for me,
I wanted to just I knew that it would be hard.
I cried. I mean I cried a lot. I know
Robin was like what is wrong with you? And I
miss my dog and shit, but like I she didn't sit,
not in a mean way, but I was like it
was I didn't want to. Like I thought that this
show truly was like more of a fun like happy
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go lucky. I didn't expect all of like the drama.
I didn't and call me naive, but I saw the
previous seasons and obviously season one there's some heartache. But
I just felt like, why is it so serious all
the time. I just wanted it to be more like lighthearted.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
We all want that when we sign up for housewives too,
but it doesn't work.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
That doesn't make for good television. Looking you know, when
I look back on this season, I was very critical
of the Traders. That was one of the reasons why
I think I got aust is because I thought that
the Traders had made some bad decisions in the beginning,
and I was vocal about it. But looking back, I
thought that you wore the smartest Trader and like your
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instincts were correct. But then also getting to know you
pretty well the show and just from what you just said,
the show affected you. Looking back, you obviously wanted to
be a Trader coming in, but would you have rather
been a Faithful after you've done the show?
Speaker 3 (12:18):
No? Hell noing no, I don't want to be no
damn faithful with Dylan and his No. Heck no, I
ain't ain't about that. I just wanted, like I and
truly when they asked like, do you want to be
a Trader or Faithful? I was like, yeah, put some
Housewives in here. I wanted it because to me, that
would be fun. I wanted it to be like we're
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like messing around in there, and like.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
We want to have fun together doing fun stuff.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
So again I wasn't thinking like we gotta think thirty stepside.
This is the way it is so for me. I yes,
I'm not a perfect speaker. I am very I mean,
I stutter, I cry a lot, I'm emotional, I'm like
a lot whatever. It was hard for me to even
get a word out sometimes in there, and so I
get it.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
I'm but you were right, you know what, Carolyn, You
were right, and they didn't listen to you. You told
them stop voting for the housewives. We weren't a threat,
but they were doing it. They wasted a lot of
a lot of murders on housewives who were no threat
to them, who could have been shields at the roundtable.
I know the game now, but you were the smart one.
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And I watched you on Survivor back when we're going
to get to that, and I saw the same thing
happened to you. There. We were sitting with two guys
I forget who it was, my friend Bust and Rob,
and you were eating like a mango and you were
like trying to talk and people were talking over you.
So I know that about you, but I want you
to moving forward. You just have a lot more confidence
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because you're fucking smart girl.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
I know when I say I do, I do, it's that.
Do you think it doesn't get me? Like ann eat
as shit? Like I hate because it's not that like
I walk around because I hate that when people are
like she's just always playing the victim. I'm not playing them.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Not confidence. I take that back, but you know, no,
it was okay.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
I do believe in myself. I do think I'm great,
but it's sometimes like I kind of know, like they
they ain't gonna budge or they're not gonna listen, and
how long do I want to stay in the goddamn
turret with these people? So yeah, that's a big thing too.
We're not getting anything.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
People don't understand that. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
And there was only probably one time where I was
like I eat budgeting and I'm not moving And that
was about Brittany coming in. But I was like I
don't want to. I was like, I am tired as hell.
I can't even like think and so if if, how
long do I want to argue in the turret? Like
hell no, but I do believe in myself. But yes,
it's like the story of my goddamn life that like again,
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I play these games like I was myself and then
I get like, it's like, what the fuck is the
point if I get, you know, far in a game,
but nobody takes me seriously or listens. It's like, well,
get to the end, and then.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Well you got there, you got really far, you know.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
What I mean. Like, so that's where I was hard
on myself. But like, no, this game, like I am
grateful it didn't like fuck me up or anything. I
just wish it was more more like fun and crazy
and like do like tripping people and stuff like that,
not like so intense gamer, Like I don't think that's
fun to watch, like the super intense people that are
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Like I don't know about you, but I got really
bad anxiety out there with Danielle. I just did it.
Was like this shouldn't be the serious and I get
that it's a game and blah blah blah, but like
we don't need to. It can still be fun and
have a little bit of drama without crying all the time.
And I cried too, but you.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Know, would you do it again?
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Oh? Absolutely? I loved it like as much as I
like do Why do I did? I seem really fucked up.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
No, I'm just asking if you do it again because
I would.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
Oh, like please, girl. I thought it was awesome and
just everything is so like it's it's so incredible, everything,
the attention to detail, the set, the I loved it,
like I truly loved it. But I'm okay being like
the freaky person on TV because like when I watch
reality TV, I want to see people be real. I
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want to see and again, a lot of people I
think are I don't know, embarrassed to admit certain things
or they want to look perfect, and it's like that
shit's not relatable and so I would rather be my
freak as self that I think that it is. You know,
you go into group settings and it's like you want
to like have everyone. No, not that ain't like that
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for me. I go into group settings and it's like
who's that? Or like you know what I mean? I don't,
but I'm not gonna try to be all like to
fit in with people. That's not too exhausting.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Do you think people underestimate you?
Speaker 3 (17:00):
I think yeah, which is fine, which is what I
want right right, mass games. But of course I think
because I'm playing as myself, of course it like hurts
my feelings sometimes, but like.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
You know, it's an advantage though in the game that
this Like Michael Jordan and Tom Brady used to do
this a lot, where they would create these things about
like so and so said this or this team said this,
and create this drama in their head to give them
like moxie and energy to win. And I feel like
that's what you do. I feel like you know that
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you're an amazing game player and you're using this to
like trick yourself into like figure out a way win.
Does that make sense?
Speaker 3 (17:52):
Trust me? Like again, I it's one of those things
like my personality helps my gameplay. It's it's I'm authentic,
like I'm not playing like a character, you know what
I'm saying. And so that's like I know that like
just being me is gonna nobody thought. Everybody thought like
there's no way she could do this, and she can't
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keep a secret. She probably would have told everybody. By now.
It's like people just think I'm an idiot, and I
guess And that's the thing, like do I want to
change or do I now I do I go through
those these battles of like, oh, especially after I was banished,
I'm like, what the fuck is wrong with me? And
then I have to like come back and I'm like no,
like you are who you are and blah blah blah,
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like oh it's it's but I know it helps me,
but it sometimes hurts my feelings. And so it is
what it is.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
When you look back at all the you know, moves
that the Traders that you guys made, can you pinpoint
one that you thought was like the biggest misstep that
the Traders made, Bob.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
The drag Queen that early on just everything fell apart
after that, but also finding out too like Danielle was
coming for it, like just and so all of that,
and like I obviously had found out from Dylan, and
I couldn't for me my emotional like I can't go
back when someone's coming, Like I can't, I can't be like, okay,
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I trust you now. It was too hard. It was
too hard. But what's crazy is I was like, girl,
we literally were we were fine. And I always said,
like we got along fine outside of the turret, we
would it was just fine. But it was like we
went in there and personalities like you know what I mean,
everybody wanted to like yes, and it always made me
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so uncomfortable because I I remember wanting to be a
trader and I told them it like if you pick me, like,
I can't sound like Fedra. And I really was like
hard on myself, not hard on myself, but I was like,
I just want you to know, like I'm not gonna
have these like cute one line because she's very good.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
She's very ready, and I get I understand. I feel
the same way, and I know what you're saying. I
exactly get it.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
I'm like, I can't be that so like, and they're like, no,
don't worry, like we you know you're here because you're
you and all of that. But of course I'm like,
oh my gosh. So I feel like there was that
like pressure in the turret especially, and I don't know
if Danielle like really felt it, but I felt like, girl,
you're like a different person when we come in here,
and so I just was like and I never that's
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not me to be like I can't wait. It's like
who are we gonna murder? Like I just don't talk like.
It was weird for me, and maybe I should have
like gotten into the kit because poverty did it very well.
It's just not me and I really tried to like
break out of my comfort zone in that way. But
again I don't know how to do reality shows, which
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is like.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
A reality shows is about being yourself, and that's it.
That's it. It's yourself. And even in this game, in
all the games, I think that you play, it's yourself
that gets you there. So why would you be anybody
but Carolyn, You're You're like people go crazy over you.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
I also think when people start acting differently than they
normally are, that's a big tell that something is not right,
you know. So I think that you played it exactly
exactly correct in my mind.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Oh what yeah, I would you have done anything different?
Speaker 3 (21:39):
I would have like I always had Sandra's voice in
my head, because Sandra from Season two, because she's like, girl,
don't you be talking because I'm a talker, and so
she was like, don't say stuff or bring stuff up
at the round table. It's gonna get you banished. So
just just don't like kind of lay low. But that's
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boring as shit, And so I kind of get where
like Bob the Drake Queen like went all wild and
like that was probably fun. Even though you know he
was out quick, It's like he probably had a hell
of a time doing it versus like, I mean, I
was dying inside, like just feeling like I couldn't, like,
you know, just say things or accuse people or that's
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what you want to do, and I felt so just
like I gotta be quiet. So I really I that sucked,
and I regret, like just protecting Tom.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
You regret protecting him what? He's an asshole to me?
And he's still an asshole. He's a fucking asshole. That's why, yep.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
And everybody warned me and me especially who I fucking
hate cheaters, Okay, like they trigger me. They pissed me off.
They and everyone's like he is a nurseissist too. So
I'm like, you know what, I've been judged my whole life.
I've people like treat me a certain way because of
my past. I'm not going to do that. Well, it
turns out.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
I went in the same way with him, Carolyn, And
then you know, when I see him, it's nice and
it's cordial, but he just like fucking ripped me apart
on a Traders panel at Barabokime.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
No.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
Yeah, he's like, you didn't even Uh what did he say?
He kept shitting on me about how I played the
missions and what else did he say? He's like, you
didn't first of all, I played the missions hard. Don't
tell me. I mean, I did everything, But I forget
what he said, and I don't know we got into
it on the Traders panel anyway. That's that's that's not
(23:43):
about us. This is all about you and I just
you've been such an inspiration to so many people. You're
so open about your past and dealing with your addiction,
and you've used it now to be a life coach,
which is really a blessing. I know so many people
you're like number She's like number one on cameo.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Else not anymore, I need to get something for a
long time. Well, hey, I'm typically in the like I do.
Well though, there's not a day that I've ever had.
There's never been like a day where I don't get
a cameo request or something, do you know what I mean?
At least one? But typically I have it like I do,
I do a lot.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
So why don't you.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Have a very unique voice and a lot of people
were doing imitations of you on social media. I thought
they were hilarious. I was wondering how you felt about it,
like in the moment cool.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
So this is the truth because and this is where
like people like don't, I don't really give a shit
what people believe. I don't read or search my name
because I don't need to read that I'm a crackhead.
Of course, there is a lot of great things. But
if I put all of this stock into like the
positive things people say, what happens when it stops and
(24:55):
what happens if I put all of my life so
work into it, so I don't search. And so during Survivor,
I had so many people like uh, calling me a crackhead,
saying my brain was fried from drugs, saying just so
much shit. I stopped, like, I don't search my name
at all, and so I remember I didn't, and I
(25:16):
would tell my family don't send me articles with what
people say. I don't care. I need to love myself.
And if I can't love myself without the attention of
other people or like the well people you don't even know, right, No,
So I don't want to give it the energy. And
so I truly when the season was airing, And this
is literally the truth. And I didn't even know people
(25:36):
liked me after Survivor until the cameo hit and I
had so many that it couldn't sleep, and so it
hasn't stopped. And it's one of those things like I
wouldn't have known otherwise, Like I truly thought I was
the freaky weirdo who was playing a fucking game. So
with Traders, I had so many people telling me like,
you gotta see this and you gotta see this, and
(25:56):
I wasn't finding them unless people would send them to me.
And it's the same with like the Danielle drama because
that came to like people were like, you need to
like calm your fans down because they're being mean to Danielle.
I wouldn't have known because I don't read that shit.
I don't otherwise, Like for what, I don't need the attention.
(26:18):
I don't need to know what people think of me.
Am I gonna change because somebody doesn't like me?
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (26:25):
So, but I did get like the ball do I
I didn't even know I had an accent like that?
Is that for Minnesota?
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Obviously Survivor fifty cast has been released. Girl, So here's
my question, last question to you, would you ever go
back on Survivor? And would you ever go back on Traders?
And if you got offered both of them, which one
would you rather do?
Speaker 3 (26:49):
Good question, girl, Like, So, yeah, Survivor fifty I was cut.
That's kind of sucked. But I mean Traders was amazing.
I can't when I talk about the experience as far
as even like, and I don't know y'all come from
like shows that probably like treat you like really really well,
(27:10):
and like I felt like NBC Peacocks, who is it?
Who is who's responsible for treating us so well? I
felt like a damn princess. I So besides the show
being absolutely incredible and just how much do you I
mean even think of like the producers were there tweaking
every detail and making sure the like uh the murderer
(27:33):
face to face. It was I'm like, my oh, it's
so cool. So Traders is the answer? Like, it was
so amazing, But how they treated us, how they treated me,
I felt like, this is such these are great people
who actually care.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
There's a wellness team, right, they say are you okay?
Speaker 3 (27:55):
Everything? All the support people, all of there was never
a time time where I felt and I just felt
like a queen like I loved them.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Studio Lambert, Lambert.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Listen, I gotta say yeah ITV Studio Lambert. They need
to do an all star show and you have to
be on it and I will watch that. Thank you
so much, Carolyn for coming on the show.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Thank you, kin.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
I love getting to know you, even though it was
for a short time. You are to me such like
a perfect reality TV person because you are just authentically you.
So I appreciate you for just being honest with all
of us. And please please come back when we start
recapping season four because your insight will be invaluable to
(28:45):
us because we're all free.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Thank you so much, Carolyn. We're so excited that you
said you'd come back.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
By thank you, and congratulations on the engagement to go
and your new show.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
Thank you. I'm excited, so wow.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
Thank y'all.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
All right, see you, Carolyn.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
Bye.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
She's the best.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
Well how many times have you been called a girl
and you.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
Yeah, well that was probably the most. But you know what,
if anyone can pull it off, it's her. Listen. I
it broke my heart that she was the one who
got me was the final vote. But I really did
like getting to know her and hanging out with her,
and yeah, she's right, I did. I was so stressed out.
I got a pack of cigarettes and that was a
thing that happened on that show and some behind the
(29:31):
scenes stuff.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Nice.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Yeah, all right, everyone out there, thanks so much for
listening to By Order of the faithfuls. If you're not
following us on social media, please do rate and review
wherever you listen to the podcast and tell your friends
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Speaker 3 (29:49):
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