November 21, 2025 • 38 mins
Was Rob’s betrayal of Bob the Drag Queen yay or nay?! What did Bob tell Dolores before that infamous roundtable that made her realize he was a traitor?
Plus, Dolores got into a heated argument with another Traitors Bravolebrity in Vegas… What happened?! Will she forgive and forget?
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Welcome in all you Faithfuls and Traders for another episode
of By Order of the Faithfuls. I'm Wills Adams alongside
Dolores Catania Dlorus. How are you?
Speaker 2 (00:13):
I'm so good.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Unlike most of the people that went to Bravocon, all
our all our friends have covid it was covid Con. Well,
there's two names we have for it. It was ozempic Con
and covid Con.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, oh yeah, not to be confused with
last year, which was was that like lip injection con
and what's the stuff that freezes your face botox botox con.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Even the guys were dipping into it hard the con. Yeah, craziness, craziness,
but it was. It was a great time and worth
getting sick.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
I'll tell you that.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Well, let's let's talk about it a little bit, because
there was a couple things in the Traders world happened
at Bravo Con. One, they showed the trailer for the
new season which is coming out next year, which will
be recapping, and then also there was a panel, So
did you see the trailer?
Speaker 2 (01:08):
I did.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
It was pretty amazing. I got goosebumps, I got excited.
I got that like guttural excitement and you know a
little envy too that I wasn't a part of it.
I never and you know, ma, I never wanted to
leave there. But it was it's really good. He starts
off with the tower card reading, which is so you know, spooky.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
So it started off with that. People were super excited.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
I think the panel had thousand Paul said, there was
like six thousand people watching that panel.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Wow, it was crazy packed.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
To the Florida, you know, wall to wallpacked and every
seat was filled, which is hard to fill in those
large spaces. And it just it was really good. It
looked really really good. They didn't show any like arguing
or anything like that that I remember, but I do
think that there was some heated moments around amongst housewives.
(02:04):
And that's my prediction. Wells, and I'm going to tell
you I know housewives very well, and there was some
big egos in that at that roundtable.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Yeah, I mean we know that Dorinda's there are there
other housewives that are there.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
I want to take away the word egos. I want
to say strong personalities. There was some very strong personalities there.
Dorinda was there, and Derinda was on the panel, and
so was Carolyn Stanbury Hm. She was on the panel
with me as well, so Kristen Kish was on the panel.
Tom Sandibal and me got into it a little bit there.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Oh we did that. I wasn't there, but I'm sure
it was. It was all, you know, skittles and rainbows.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Oh yeah, No, Now what happened? Well he said again,
he not the way that I played the game, even
though I won.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
He also said that he thought I was a trader.
I said, why did you keep picking me? Because I
really thought you were a trader because one night, when
I was going up to my room, you said you're next.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Tom.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Okay, first of all, I never said that, and second
of all, you weren't next, and if you were next,
you wouldn't have been there to tell it.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
So what made you think I was a trader? Then?
Speaker 3 (03:13):
How does that even make sense? Nothing he said makes
sense to me. So we got into it there.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
I mean, it's very rich for someone like Tom to
criticize the way that you played a game, considering that
he was never right about anything.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
No, so Carolyn Carolyn did protect him. Now I know
she's mad about it, and I'm mad that I was
ever even nice to him.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
So well, I'm glad you have fun. I didn't get sick.
Let's get into season three recapping episode three and four.
You know, I was watching this back. I'm kind of
shocked that it took so long for everyone to realize. Obviously,
if I'm production, I want Boston Robb to be a trader,
(03:59):
and I'm I'm amazed that it took us a little
bit to figure out that he was a trader. But
the Traders really aren't happy to see him in the turret.
They don't trust him, and I did it. I wouldn't either,
especially after watching the season.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
They didn't trust him. And here's the thing.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
The reason that we didn't think one of the guys
in the cage was was a trader was because it
was too obvious for one of them to be a trader. Yeah,
and we still were this still is new to the game.
It's the third season. Well and we didn't, you know,
it was kind of like, okay, could one of them be?
But the other two guys in the cage never trusted him,
(04:37):
and they're very smart gamers, very very smart.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
In the tourret. It comes down to tom Ian and
then you, Doloris.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Uh, I did not realize I was so close to
being murdered so many times, and I don't know why
they skipped over me.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
I don't know why I was the last housewife's standing,
do you?
Speaker 1 (05:00):
I'm not sure. I mean, I understand Bob the Drag
Queen's idea of chaos because that's kind of what they
you know, I think that's what happened with Derinda. It
was confusing. That was like my whole thing was like,
I was confused, is why they would get rid of
someone that I think everyone already thought was a trader,
and so that caused confusion, which looking back, it was
(05:22):
smart in the fact that it did cause a lot
of confusion, and then and then now choosing iron it
makes it it's very obviously she's not a trader, Like
why would you get rid of this person? You should
get rid of someone that's a threat. But it does,
it does do the thing that Bob the Drag Queen
was talking about, which was just caused confusion. I think
(05:44):
keeping you around makes sense because there were people like
Tom who might have thought that you were a trader
or you had it because that.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Was the last they were setting.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
It took me a while to realize that they were
also setting me up for keeping me.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Yeah, like, how could.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Every housewife be gone and then I'm the last one standing?
Speaker 2 (06:08):
It must be me?
Speaker 3 (06:09):
And that made sense to a certain extent. But Derek
and Wes were smart, and they knew that Boston.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Rob was a trader, and they knew that Bob the
Drag Queen was a trader.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
But the first one to call out Bob the Drag Queen,
to be honest, was I am.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
I know I remember her telling because I remember her
telling me that. And I was like, no way, that's
so obvious, you know, like the brightest bulb in the chandelier,
the one who's dressed up, you know, to the nines.
There's no way that they're going to make him the trader.
And Ian was like, there's something I don't trust about him,
(06:50):
and she was so right smart.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
And then Dylan pulled me in at one point and
you see this this did air. He's like, I think
it's Bob, and you know, I want to let you
in on I happen to trust you. We're just getting
to know each other now, right, And I said, well,
I'm not ready to say it, and you shouldn't either.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Yeah, let's just sit back on this.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Yeah, I think that was a smart play on your behalf.
But you know, Dylan, he deduced it from the banishment
of me, right because Bob starts it starts it coming
at me, and then at the end he switched up
his vote. You can see he does this a lot. Actually,
as you watched through the season before he gets banished himself,
(07:29):
is that he will throw shade at someone and then
he'll divert over to voting for someone else, so he
has plausible deniability. You know, I wish that I had
lasted longer for a lot of reasons, but one I
wish I was there longer to be able to watch
Danielle's overacting. I'm wondering what you were.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
I don't know, you don't even know.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
You know, Danielle off camera was very nice and when
we get to the reunion, and I'll say that she
really did me as solid in the end. But so,
Danielle's overreacting was so bad it drove me crazy in
the beginning. But what everyone doesn't know, and I feel
bad because this sappened when we were walking into our
(08:11):
first round table. Danielle was so nervous she fell flat
on her face like you just heard it, it echoed,
and the thing. But she was always dramatic about everything, the.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Fake crying, the shaking.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
At one point she even threw herself on the floor
and started convulsing after she got Carolyn out, Like Alan
came out of character maybe once in the whole time,
and that was him when they had to get back
and say get back into character, because he was like
dumbfounded by it. But at breakfast the next morning, she
was talking too much and Boston Rob did not like
(08:46):
it because the more you talk, the more you put
yourself under a microscope, right, because now people are paying
attention to My only strategy was to go under the
radar as long as I could.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
But I wonder if I was there, I imagine what
my interviews would be like talking about Danielle and just
being like stop riding so much, like what do you talk?
This is a game? You're freaking out? And I wonder
if if my spidy senses would have gone off by
being like annoyed of the overacting because it happens a
(09:20):
lot in Paradise on my show, right where.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Like oh okay, so you're familiar with it.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
When people get way too over emotional. I'm like, stop
freaking out. You went on a date on jet skis, Like,
why you cried like this? You're over it.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
It wasn't a twenty year marriage.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Yeah, exactly, like this is a day we're in a
we're in a castle in Scotland, backing out.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
I'm just stop.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
The person really isn't dead, and yeah, you know, I'm
just not used to emotions like that. They it just
annoyed the fuck out of me, Like totally annoyed me,
especially coming.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
For where I come from.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
I've been on a show now for ten years straight
and I can count on one man how many times
somebody cried in New Jersey.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Yeah, but now you're on a news show. I saw
a trailer for recently and the house I was of
Rhode Island World Ashley I Knetty is.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Always well that's that's the given. She text me.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
She's like, I think people are are going to think
I'm boring. I'm like, nope, no, I don't think boring
is the word we're looking for.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
So good Jeremy suspects Danielle And this is the kind
of the thing that I said as I was leaving
as being like playing a smart game isn't always the smartest.
(10:41):
I think that's a good line, but I think that
that applies to someone like Jeremy because he's on to
Danielle right like he and he is. And the second
you get someone and you start talking saying their name,
then it's the traders trying to figure out a way
to get you out. And that's what ended up happening
to Jeremy.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
That is what happened to Jeremy.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
But see, Carolyn was too good with going back and
saying this one mentioned your name.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
She shouldn't have been that loyal to.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
Danielle, because Danielle wasn't loyal to Carolyn totally. And Jeremy
had Carolyn's back and he told her that, and she
was like, so, like, I don't know how to accept this.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
You know.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
I think she felt bad because she was a trader
and he was confiding in her. But I'll tell you this,
if I was a trader, I wouldn't be so quick
to dime out the people that were riding on the
other traders.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Wouldn't do it.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Yeah, I'd keep them on my side. That's what I
would do to get the other traders out.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
I agree with that, the mission seemed fun and scary,
but also long and wet, tell us like the behind
the scenes of going to the Creepy Funhouse.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
The Creepy Funhouse sucked.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
It was the only and biggest regret of my whole
career in the Traders Castle because it was just grow.
It was cold, it was raining, and I didn't get
the game like I have. I'm dyslexic. You know, my
partner's color blind, Bob Harper was color blind.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
There was only one door left.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Tom Sandibal went in before me, was throwing out all
these different kind of things, and I just, you know what,
I embarrassed myself actually, because when you can't pick the
one door that's left, everyone's gonna hate you, and they did.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
I didn't get through the first thing. I just wanted
to get out of there. To be honest.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Can I ask the question, why weren't people like, Okay,
we're gonna choose the door furthest to the left, We're
gonna choose the door second to the left, instead of
being like red diamonds and gold stuff. I didn't understand
why you were just saying, like what door it was?
Speaker 3 (12:49):
It was so confusing and to go after Tom Sandibal,
who said five thousand different things, was just the kiss
of death for me because I can't listen to him
anyway on a good day, so I didn't want to
listen to anything he'd say and or understand him. So yeah,
so with one door left, I picked the wrong one
and embarrassed totally. No one did good in that game
(13:11):
and no one finished it. So I think they're going
to scrap that for one of the next mission missions moving.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Forward, or make it maybe a little bit easier, because
because I don't I think that. I truly think the
production wants you to get as much money as possible, and.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
They do, they do, But that was that just didn't work.
You know, whoever invented that one thinks in a different way.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Yeah, going back to the round table, uh, you know Dylan,
he kind of puts his neck out accusing Bob the
drag Queen and Robin of being traders. You know, they
do not respond lightly to that. You know, Bob gets
I tell you what though, I mean, like, it didn't
(13:54):
work out for Bob. But Bob is very good at arguing.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
He's very smart, Bob. We call him Bob DQ. He
is so very very intelligent, more than you know. And
then Dylan gets his first lick from a housewife of
his first beating, verbal beating from a housewife because Robin
just fucking tears his ass up. And he's so nice
(14:19):
and so pure. He's like, ugh, like he didn't know
what to expect. Now he's mister Dancing with the Stars
star Kid's gonna make it, isn't he?
Speaker 1 (14:27):
He might win this thing. I went to that taping
last week and saw his all tens and he's good.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
I know it's his time. It is his time. I'm
so happy for him because a nicer kid.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Did I tell you? Did I tell you? What his
dad said? It was like the cutest thing in the world,
no tell me. So after the dance, we're all kind
of like filing out, and I had been sitting next
to his father, who's like the cutest little like amalgamation
of both Zach and Dylan, but like smaller and just
nice and old and cute. And so someone came up
(15:03):
to me and was like was talking to me and
said something to the effect of like I'm a huge fan,
and I like what happened to you? And the traders
like still like rubs me the wrong way, and I'm
bummed that you were got out so quickly. And I
was like, oh, speaking of traders, this is Dylan's dad.
And then she turns to Dylan's dad and goes, oh
my god, I'm such a huge fan of Dylan. And
(15:24):
he turned to me and he goes, it's so nice.
For so long, I've only ever heard people being fans
of Zach, and now people are saying they're fans of Dylan,
and it makes me so happy. Oh, that's the.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Koddest thing we knew. That's so cute.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
And he loves his dad dearly, and he loves his
little sister so much. She would talk about his little
sister and brother a lot, and even incorporating his sister
what Olivia and is one of his dances.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
It was perfect, and.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
Ye you know, it's just and he took that with
such grace, being Zach's little brother.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Yeah, I mean, gonna be tough.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
He he's always been a fan of his brother. He's
never been jealous of his brother. Dylan is just purely
good and he was and it's just his time and
he deserves every bit of it.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
So I understand his dad feeling excited for him.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
You know, it's funny because whenever he's in interview, you know,
they'll say, they'll put his name on like the lower
third and the chiron, and then they say the show name, right,
So like, for you, I'm sure it says Housewives or whatever. Yeah,
for him, it says down to Earth and for the
longest time. So like on Batterm Paradise, what we do
usually is we'll put someone's name and then for the
(16:41):
lower third we'll say something that's funny, that's happening, like
losing their mind or something.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
I like that. I love that.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
It's great. And so I'm watching the show thinking of
it like that where I'm like, yeah, of course he's
down to Earth. And then I was like, oh no,
he was on a show with his brother called down
to Earth.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
That's a blonde moment.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
Yeah, he is like that's nice, Like, uh because it
actually is fitting.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Yeah exactly. Anyways, but yeah, he gets he gets absolutely
dismantled at the roundtable, Gabby dismantled invisted. I think it
was good though. I think he learned. He's like, I
better be better about, you know, speaking up and defending
myself going forward. I think it was a good learning
moment for him. But anyways, he's not the only person
(17:33):
that throws out some names. Gabby accuses Tony, and a
lot of people agree, including Rob. Did you think that
Tony could be a trader?
Speaker 3 (17:44):
I did, because he overly said I'm not a trader.
I'm not a trader. I'm not a trader. I came
here not to be a trader. I want to be
a faithful. And we know the way he played his games,
like I don't didn't know a lot about the gamers,
but what I was told about him as he used
to sneak into trees and listen, and he's won these
games so many times that him saying he never wanted
(18:09):
to be a trader was an absolute lie. So he
started out of the box lying to us. If he
would have just said, yeah, I fucking wanted to be
a trader, I'm not, but that's what I came here
to play, I would have thought more of him. But
because of that, like blatant lie, that's what bothered me
about him.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Well, unfortunately, Tony's days are numbered. In the Castle, he
gets the majority vote, he's banished out, he reveals he's
a faithful, he starts crying a little bit, which was,
you know, interesting, I guess. And then the last thing
he says, you know me and the criers.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
I'm like, what the fuck the guy's a cop until
we talk about Jeremy's exac.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
But yeah, so he starts crying. But the last thing
he says he points to Rob and he says, you're
a sellout, which is very interesting. Actually, oh it was
was like I wonder if that like a meat did
I wasn't there? Did that immediately put pressure on Rob?
Speaker 2 (19:08):
No, not immediately?
Speaker 1 (19:09):
No? Interesting? All right, So the traders don't meet up
in the turret because they're gonna be shortlisting three people
in playing site around the castle, and those people will
be put in a coffin to murder one of them. Danielle, Bob,
and Rob all make it into hidden bookcase discuss their plan.
(19:30):
Carolyn is lost and wandering around the castle looking for
all of them. Finally they're all together. They decide on
three names. But while they're in the hidden area, smart
little Gabby she hears something. She is, you know this
whole like Jennifer Coolidge, you know, like did see act
(19:51):
I never bought? I know how smart she is because
when you're really good in interview. That means you're really smart.
And so for you know, years, I've seen and you're
on the Bachelor, and she's so funny and so good
an interview, and I'm always like, I know that you're
really really smart. And seeing that whole thing of like
her walking in there and hearing.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
Being like, yeah, that bookcase really Once that was all revealed,
that's when I started to really think about who's who. Yeah,
that was a big clue. They really they by the
skin of their teeth got.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Out of that.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Gabby hears Danielle's voice behind the bookcase, but didn't stick
around to see who the other people in the bookcase were.
I kind of wish she had, but I can see
her being scared, especially if her spidy senses were going off,
that she didn't want to be seen by them, because
then she she would probably know that she would be
the next one to.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Go, Oh yeah, yeah, she'd have to go. She knows
too much.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Yeah, Dylan. Dylan also recognizes something's going on, so he
realizes like, something's not right, Like, so he searches the castle.
Did you have that feeling like something wasn't right and
something was going on behind the scenes.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
There was a smell.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
We smelled something burning and it was all the torches
outside and Brittany said to me, don't you feel something's
not right here? And I'm like, well, there's a smell.
I smell like fire or whatever that is. And that's
when immediately called to come outside. And that's when there
(21:31):
was three people in the coffins.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Yeah, oh no, there wasn't three. Sorry, they called them
to get in the coffins.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
So was this all on the same day that you
had the clown whatever mission? And then you go back,
you do your round table, you banish Tony, and then
you guys are just like still hanging around the castle.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
No, but I don't remember now.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Because I think the reason why I would have suspicious
of that if I had been there, would been like,
normally the plan of action is you do the roundtable
and then you wait in the bar area to be
taken back home. But if you were if you were
like they were like, go enjoy the castle, I'd be like,
something's going on. This is not normally what we're doing.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
And unfortunately I don't remember.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
But that's a really good question and we're gonna have
to ask put that note.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
That, so Jeremy, Nicky, and Sierra have been shortlisted for murder,
they have to lay in the coffins. Jeremy suspects Danielle
as a trader who wanted him murdered, which was very right,
but for his final words, he says he'll work with
the traders if they keep him around.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
I felt so bad for him. Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
I'm like all I could think about is when this airs,
the firemen are gonna rip him apart because.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
He's a fireman.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
And he like folded, like Sierras like, I'm gonna fucking
kill you traders, you could go fuck yourself. And then
Nicky's like, the reason to keep me around, it's because
I'm athletic, and she went on to say all the
reasons to keep her around, and then Jeremy's like he
got he choked up, he got nervous, and he like
kind of folded, you know.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
It's like, I'll work with you, just let me live.
And I'm like, this isn't real. What are you doing herself?
Don't do this? Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
I felt terrible. Well you don't even know, because like
you can't do that.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
I can't be a rat.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
You can't be a rat. I think one of the
smart things that traders did in this is not put
a trader in the box, because I think that you're
your tendency would be I want to throw in a
trader in there, so then they can use it as like, well,
I'm not a trader. They tried to kill me in
the coffin thing, and by not doing that, I think
(23:48):
it put a lot of suspicion on everyone.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
So it put them on everybody since anybody that was
in those coffins because in the past, one of the
traders was in the coffins.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Know That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
Yeah, So it was smart because now the reason Nicki
and Sierra were absolutely voted out was because they were
in the coffin.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Yeah, totally. Jeremy's the one that ends up going home,
which should have been it should have been more of
a red flag about Danielle, I feel like than it was,
because it was obvious that he was going after.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Right, and it definitely should have been.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
For some reason it wasn't, but it was before he
was very vocal about her. He only confided in Carolyn
that I had seen maybe somebody else. But because Danielle
was very careful to keep Brittany around.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Anybody who would put a.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
Potentially a point a finger at her or would say, oh,
if they're gone, it's because So that's why Brittany was
kept around for as long as she was.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
At breakfast. The next morning, Gabby reveals her suspicions of Danielle.
Seems like, you know, the walls are closing in. Robin
decides to address everyone at breakfast and asks who was
in the bookcase last night. Danielle admits she and Dylan
were there, which he confirms, and so then Gabby's back
to square one. Then, right, I don't know what's going on.
(25:30):
I wish that Dylan hadn't gone into that bookshelf.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
That was such a that totally cleared Danielle from what
everyone thought.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
Yeah, that was it.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
So Dylan unknowingly saved Danielle's.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Ass absolutely for the challenge. You got forty five minutes
to reconstruct these massive statues. This looked like this this
mission sucked.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
It was so hard. Yeah, was so.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
But during this mission there was some fight over some shields.
We did not We did it unanimous. Derek was on
my team. He knew that they were after him. He
needed the shield. We gave it to him.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
This is the moment that kind of solidifies Bob the
Drag Queen's banishment. Or he says something, it's a throwaway
line for him, but it's the thing that Rob needed
by saying that, like, one of the guys in the
cages are probably a trader, and that puts I just
(26:35):
think that Rob wanted to get rid of Bob the
Drag Queen. He was like, I think I need to
be the one in the turret that is kind of
delegating everything and this personality is too big. And he
finally got something and he was able to like furious.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
When he said that.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
Yeah, Boston Rob's face if you watch it when he
says that, he would have punched him in the like
that Italian temper kicked in quick. I think that he
was looking for something because I didn't see anything. Him
saying anything so wrong like that wasn't the worst thing.
Somebody could say. They could have had it out about it.
(27:14):
He wanted him dead.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
I like, listen, there's no question that Boston Robb is
very smart, and him doing this I think actually was
really really smart. He knew that Dylan was on to
Bob the Drag Queen. He probably had a thought that
I'm Boston Robb. People are gonna think I'm a trader.
So if I team up with Dylan get this trader out,
(27:39):
then I have deniability to say I was one who
got this guy out. I can't be a trader. But
he does make one fatal flaw where he says in
the roundtable going against Bob the Drag Queen, he says,
you're one hundred percent a trader. And Wes is the
person who kept who catches onto that by saying, how's
(28:02):
the what's the only way that you know that someone's
one hundred percent a.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Trader to be a trader?
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Yeah, it's the one thing. I think it was his
one slip up the entire.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Wes and Derek were after Boston Rob.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
Anyway, Yeah, because they had to know. Listen, I've watched
Wes on the Challenge for years. He's really really smart,
and they had to know that, like, surely one of
us is going to be a trader. And Wes and
Wes and both Derek both were like, well it's not me,
so it's gotta be Rob, you know. So they yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
(28:37):
you know, like they had Yeah that way. Anyways, the roundtable,
Derek calls out Sierra because she was uh in a coffin.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
And swearing, wearing a lot.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
It's like, have you watched It's at Summerhouse that she's.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Suck Like, of course, Eric, that's how we all talk. Bravo,
what do you mean? This is how we articulate ourselves. Sorry,
the Bravo world.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
It's a sign of Studies say that cussing a lot
is a sign of high intelligence.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Actually, thank you.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
Yeah, you're welcome. But Rob's not having any of it.
He's like, listen, we gotta be uh, we gotta be
getting on Bob the drag queen, who's the guy who's
been quarterbacking the whole show. Bob and Rob start going
at each other's throats. Dylan stands up for Rob, which
Dylan does for a lot of this series.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
Oh they're still having to make out all the time.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
I know, I see moretok, I see more tiktoks with
them together, skipping and holding hands.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
I'm like, guys, I've just reverted to commenting on all
of those videos. Just kiss already. Just let it happen, guys,
let's do it.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Come on, we're here for it. We all support you.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
It's okay, it's time to vote. Most of the faithfuls
and the traders vote for Bob the drag Queen. Before
Bob leaves, he puts on it, I was the first vote.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
By the way you were, I was.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
Was that hard for you to vote for him?
Speaker 2 (30:12):
No? No, I knew. I knew that he was that.
I was very very I almost switched my vote. I was.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
Me and Bob Harper were sitting next to each other
and he's like, what are you doing? But because I
have to tell you, you know what, I'll tell you
after we're done, after we talk about his speech on
his way out.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
Okay, yeah, so he you know, he puts on absolutely
fantastic show. He says that. You know, he says before
like I swear to God, I'm not and.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
He's pounding and he's getting worked up and he's being
dramatic and theatrical and he's I swear on God, I
will never tell a lie, but I will tell a truth.
And he said a lot of it, and he was
like people were like get nervous, like they're shitting their pasty, Like,
oh my god, he's really.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Saying this was such conviction.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
However, I'll leave you with this, and it's a behind
the scenes thing. So his mom had passed away sadly,
and it was a week to the day that he
came to Scotland from her funeral.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
He was very close with his mother.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
And he would start to have serious meltdowns, and right
before that roundtable he started to have a melt down
and get worked up because he also started to hear
his name being thrown around, like he feels like it's
closing in on him.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
I can't imagine as.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
A trader when you know it's like the end of
your little stint here. So me and Robin put our
dishes down and we try to walk it off with him.
And Robin knows about sports, and Robin's smart as well,
and we try to talk to him about different things. Well,
I don't really know a lot about a lot of things.
So I'm like, well, let me talk to him about religion.
(31:59):
So I said, you know, do you have a strong faith?
Speaker 2 (32:01):
Rob He's like, I don't believe in that fucking shit.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
So now he's at the round table and he's pound
in his hand. I swear on God, I swear to God.
Now I know he's lying because he just told me,
but he told me in a vulnerable position. Wells he
told me, And here I am looking at this kid
like I have a son. What if he was crying
over me? God forbid, I can't throw this in his
face right now. But the votes were going his way anyway,
(32:29):
so they didn't need me to do that. So after
it's all over and he gets up and he says
his speech, I don't believe in God, and he.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
Leaves and I go, well, he did tell me. And
then Tom's like, why didn't you say something?
Speaker 3 (32:43):
You should have brought that out, And I'm like, you
know what, I have a son. I couldn't do it
to him. He told me confidence when he was crying
over his mother.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
And also, if you can see the tide turning anyways,
there's no point in him right like he's going to
be going home.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
I don't need to I don't need to do something
I didn't need to do that would have done something
that I felt was wrong and just morally wrong, you know.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
So it was enough. Tom.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
The thing that he that bonb the drag Queen says
that would have made me question is when he says like,
I'll tell you nine words, and then he like goes
on his thing. I would have been like, how did
you know it was nine words? Unless you like thought
like you thought about right your exit speech.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Didn't you didn't think about your exit speech. If you didn't,
you did a damn good job. You're still you were
still in the top.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
Why didn't think I did to get bantaged in the
second episode, There's no way I was thinking that way.
But he was like, by the way, you nine words,
I'd have been like, nine words one, that's amazing. Anyways,
he's the one who goes he's got a he's got
a fantastic exit, to be honest with you, and it
must have felt really really nice to finally get a
trader out.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
Oh it felt great. You know, you get nervous because
Alan starts putting pressure. He's like, guys, come on, come on,
they're winning.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
What are you doing.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
They're making you all look like jerks, and you feel
like a jerk, especially when you're voting out people you
were close to and you're wrong, or especially you know,
this had to happen tonight. There was no more room
to get another another round table wrong, another banishment wrong,
there was no room.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
You don't know how terrible you feel.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
Starting with you, who everyone loved, and then it was
just bad.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
Yeah, well, congratulations, you guys finally got out a trader
and then it kind of ends with Wes again. We
talked about this earlier, but realizing that you can only
be one hundred percent share someone's a trader unless you're
a trader yourself, which is kind of the beginning of
the end of Boston Rod. Yeah, and that is the episode.
(35:00):
So yeah, I'm excited for the next one.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
Me too.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
I'm getting good.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
Now, why did they get out of Trader? It starts
to roll?
Speaker 1 (35:09):
Yeah, yeah, and I'm now that I'm off the show.
My anxiety of watching it is over and now it's
just fun to watch a long programming note. I'm excited
to announce that the next episode we have will be
an interview with Lord Ivar, which is going to be very,
very fun for everyone.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
He is a great guy. He has the best, most
contagious laugh ever.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
Yeah. I loved him. I like getting to know him.
It was side note about Lord Ivar's I thought he
was definitely a trader. You didn for some reason after
when we took the masks off. When I looked at him,
he looked like he had seen a ghost. He looked
like he was freaking out. And I was like, that's
(35:53):
an interesting thing to be exuding. And I was like,
surely he's a trader. My do you want to know
what my thought was? My thought was, he's a trader.
I'm going to become best friends with him. He's going
to shield me the entire season.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
Well that was a good thought. I mean, yeah, it
just picked the wrong guy.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
Yeah, Unfortunately he was not a trader. He did not
shield me, and I went out the next episode.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
But we still want you back.
Speaker 3 (36:19):
Yeah, I still need I would give anything to go
back and play differently.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
But well, here's the thing. You know, the game is
rasor thin. As you know. In the beginning of this episode,
they're up in the turret and you might be the
one that got kicked out, you know, more than once. Yeah,
so you never know. You got to live the fight
another day. Fun episode. If you're not following us on
social media, please do at by order of the Faithfuls
(36:45):
on Instagram dm us there send us videos and questions
and we can answer them here on the show. Like
I said, the next episode, we're going to be talking
to Lord Ivar, and then we will be doing episodes
five and six, and then we are inching closer to
season four.
Speaker 3 (37:04):
And we'll be watching it together. So season four, remember,
we're going to talk about this together. And I think
season four we should have some some fans like write
in or come on even Yeah, I'm gonna let's do
a TikTok. I want to do like a TikTok. How
do we reach to the traders people. A lot of
people don't know about this yet.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
I know we shtu TikTok do it. I got a lot,
but I'm sure do you have a large following on TikTok?
Speaker 2 (37:31):
I haven't looked. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (37:32):
It's not I have probably not as big as yours.
TikTok isn't my strong point.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
I have a million something on Instagram.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
But well, let's do it, and then let's both do
it put it out together. Okay, you know, all right?
Speaker 2 (37:44):
Sounds good?
Speaker 1 (37:45):
All right, everyone, Thanks for listening to the show, and
don't forget to like subscribe and tell your friends, and
we'll be back next week for all you faithfuls and
traders out there. See you see yeah,
Welcome in all you Faithfuls and Traders for another episode
of By Order of the Faithfuls. I'm Wills Adams alongside
Dolores Catania Dlorus. How are you?
Speaker 2 (00:13):
I'm so good.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Unlike most of the people that went to Bravocon, all
our all our friends have covid it was covid Con. Well,
there's two names we have for it. It was ozempic Con
and covid Con.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, oh yeah, not to be confused with
last year, which was was that like lip injection con
and what's the stuff that freezes your face botox botox con.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Even the guys were dipping into it hard the con. Yeah, craziness, craziness,
but it was. It was a great time and worth
getting sick.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
I'll tell you that.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Well, let's let's talk about it a little bit, because
there was a couple things in the Traders world happened
at Bravo Con. One, they showed the trailer for the
new season which is coming out next year, which will
be recapping, and then also there was a panel, So
did you see the trailer?
Speaker 2 (01:08):
I did.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
It was pretty amazing. I got goosebumps, I got excited.
I got that like guttural excitement and you know a
little envy too that I wasn't a part of it.
I never and you know, ma, I never wanted to
leave there. But it was it's really good. He starts
off with the tower card reading, which is so you know, spooky.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
So it started off with that. People were super excited.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
I think the panel had thousand Paul said, there was
like six thousand people watching that panel.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Wow, it was crazy packed.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
To the Florida, you know, wall to wallpacked and every
seat was filled, which is hard to fill in those
large spaces. And it just it was really good. It
looked really really good. They didn't show any like arguing
or anything like that that I remember, but I do
think that there was some heated moments around amongst housewives.
(02:04):
And that's my prediction. Wells, and I'm going to tell
you I know housewives very well, and there was some
big egos in that at that roundtable.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Yeah, I mean we know that Dorinda's there are there
other housewives that are there.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
I want to take away the word egos. I want
to say strong personalities. There was some very strong personalities there.
Dorinda was there, and Derinda was on the panel, and
so was Carolyn Stanbury Hm. She was on the panel
with me as well, so Kristen Kish was on the panel.
Tom Sandibal and me got into it a little bit there.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Oh we did that. I wasn't there, but I'm sure
it was. It was all, you know, skittles and rainbows.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Oh yeah, No, Now what happened? Well he said again,
he not the way that I played the game, even
though I won.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
He also said that he thought I was a trader.
I said, why did you keep picking me? Because I
really thought you were a trader because one night, when
I was going up to my room, you said you're next.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Tom.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Okay, first of all, I never said that, and second
of all, you weren't next, and if you were next,
you wouldn't have been there to tell it.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
So what made you think I was a trader? Then?
Speaker 3 (03:13):
How does that even make sense? Nothing he said makes
sense to me. So we got into it there.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
I mean, it's very rich for someone like Tom to
criticize the way that you played a game, considering that
he was never right about anything.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
No, so Carolyn Carolyn did protect him. Now I know
she's mad about it, and I'm mad that I was
ever even nice to him.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
So well, I'm glad you have fun. I didn't get sick.
Let's get into season three recapping episode three and four.
You know, I was watching this back. I'm kind of
shocked that it took so long for everyone to realize. Obviously,
if I'm production, I want Boston Robb to be a trader,
(03:59):
and I'm I'm amazed that it took us a little
bit to figure out that he was a trader. But
the Traders really aren't happy to see him in the turret.
They don't trust him, and I did it. I wouldn't either,
especially after watching the season.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
They didn't trust him. And here's the thing.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
The reason that we didn't think one of the guys
in the cage was was a trader was because it
was too obvious for one of them to be a trader. Yeah,
and we still were this still is new to the game.
It's the third season. Well and we didn't, you know,
it was kind of like, okay, could one of them be?
But the other two guys in the cage never trusted him,
(04:37):
and they're very smart gamers, very very smart.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
In the tourret. It comes down to tom Ian and
then you, Doloris.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Uh, I did not realize I was so close to
being murdered so many times, and I don't know why
they skipped over me.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
I don't know why I was the last housewife's standing,
do you?
Speaker 1 (05:00):
I'm not sure. I mean, I understand Bob the Drag
Queen's idea of chaos because that's kind of what they
you know, I think that's what happened with Derinda. It
was confusing. That was like my whole thing was like,
I was confused, is why they would get rid of
someone that I think everyone already thought was a trader,
and so that caused confusion, which looking back, it was
(05:22):
smart in the fact that it did cause a lot
of confusion, and then and then now choosing iron it
makes it it's very obviously she's not a trader, Like
why would you get rid of this person? You should
get rid of someone that's a threat. But it does,
it does do the thing that Bob the Drag Queen
was talking about, which was just caused confusion. I think
(05:44):
keeping you around makes sense because there were people like
Tom who might have thought that you were a trader
or you had it because that.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Was the last they were setting.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
It took me a while to realize that they were
also setting me up for keeping me.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Yeah, like, how could.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Every housewife be gone and then I'm the last one standing?
Speaker 2 (06:08):
It must be me?
Speaker 3 (06:09):
And that made sense to a certain extent. But Derek
and Wes were smart, and they knew that Boston.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Rob was a trader, and they knew that Bob the
Drag Queen was a trader.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
But the first one to call out Bob the Drag Queen,
to be honest, was I am.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
I know I remember her telling because I remember her
telling me that. And I was like, no way, that's
so obvious, you know, like the brightest bulb in the chandelier,
the one who's dressed up, you know, to the nines.
There's no way that they're going to make him the trader.
And Ian was like, there's something I don't trust about him,
(06:50):
and she was so right smart.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
And then Dylan pulled me in at one point and
you see this this did air. He's like, I think
it's Bob, and you know, I want to let you
in on I happen to trust you. We're just getting
to know each other now, right, And I said, well,
I'm not ready to say it, and you shouldn't either.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Yeah, let's just sit back on this.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Yeah, I think that was a smart play on your behalf.
But you know, Dylan, he deduced it from the banishment
of me, right because Bob starts it starts it coming
at me, and then at the end he switched up
his vote. You can see he does this a lot. Actually,
as you watched through the season before he gets banished himself,
(07:29):
is that he will throw shade at someone and then
he'll divert over to voting for someone else, so he
has plausible deniability. You know, I wish that I had
lasted longer for a lot of reasons, but one I
wish I was there longer to be able to watch
Danielle's overacting. I'm wondering what you were.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
I don't know, you don't even know.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
You know, Danielle off camera was very nice and when
we get to the reunion, and I'll say that she
really did me as solid in the end. But so,
Danielle's overreacting was so bad it drove me crazy in
the beginning. But what everyone doesn't know, and I feel
bad because this sappened when we were walking into our
(08:11):
first round table. Danielle was so nervous she fell flat
on her face like you just heard it, it echoed,
and the thing. But she was always dramatic about everything, the.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Fake crying, the shaking.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
At one point she even threw herself on the floor
and started convulsing after she got Carolyn out, Like Alan
came out of character maybe once in the whole time,
and that was him when they had to get back
and say get back into character, because he was like
dumbfounded by it. But at breakfast the next morning, she
was talking too much and Boston Rob did not like
(08:46):
it because the more you talk, the more you put
yourself under a microscope, right, because now people are paying
attention to My only strategy was to go under the
radar as long as I could.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
But I wonder if I was there, I imagine what
my interviews would be like talking about Danielle and just
being like stop riding so much, like what do you talk?
This is a game? You're freaking out? And I wonder
if if my spidy senses would have gone off by
being like annoyed of the overacting because it happens a
(09:20):
lot in Paradise on my show, right where.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Like oh okay, so you're familiar with it.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
When people get way too over emotional. I'm like, stop
freaking out. You went on a date on jet skis, Like,
why you cried like this? You're over it.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
It wasn't a twenty year marriage.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Yeah, exactly, like this is a day we're in a
we're in a castle in Scotland, backing out.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
I'm just stop.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
The person really isn't dead, and yeah, you know, I'm
just not used to emotions like that. They it just
annoyed the fuck out of me, Like totally annoyed me,
especially coming.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
For where I come from.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
I've been on a show now for ten years straight
and I can count on one man how many times
somebody cried in New Jersey.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Yeah, but now you're on a news show. I saw
a trailer for recently and the house I was of
Rhode Island World Ashley I Knetty is.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Always well that's that's the given. She text me.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
She's like, I think people are are going to think
I'm boring. I'm like, nope, no, I don't think boring
is the word we're looking for.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
So good Jeremy suspects Danielle And this is the kind
of the thing that I said as I was leaving
as being like playing a smart game isn't always the smartest.
(10:41):
I think that's a good line, but I think that
that applies to someone like Jeremy because he's on to
Danielle right like he and he is. And the second
you get someone and you start talking saying their name,
then it's the traders trying to figure out a way
to get you out. And that's what ended up happening
to Jeremy.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
That is what happened to Jeremy.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
But see, Carolyn was too good with going back and
saying this one mentioned your name.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
She shouldn't have been that loyal to.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
Danielle, because Danielle wasn't loyal to Carolyn totally. And Jeremy
had Carolyn's back and he told her that, and she
was like, so, like, I don't know how to accept this.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
You know.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
I think she felt bad because she was a trader
and he was confiding in her. But I'll tell you this,
if I was a trader, I wouldn't be so quick
to dime out the people that were riding on the
other traders.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Wouldn't do it.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Yeah, I'd keep them on my side. That's what I
would do to get the other traders out.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
I agree with that, the mission seemed fun and scary,
but also long and wet, tell us like the behind
the scenes of going to the Creepy Funhouse.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
The Creepy Funhouse sucked.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
It was the only and biggest regret of my whole
career in the Traders Castle because it was just grow.
It was cold, it was raining, and I didn't get
the game like I have. I'm dyslexic. You know, my
partner's color blind, Bob Harper was color blind.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
There was only one door left.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Tom Sandibal went in before me, was throwing out all
these different kind of things, and I just, you know what,
I embarrassed myself actually, because when you can't pick the
one door that's left, everyone's gonna hate you, and they did.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
I didn't get through the first thing. I just wanted
to get out of there. To be honest.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Can I ask the question, why weren't people like, Okay,
we're gonna choose the door furthest to the left, We're
gonna choose the door second to the left, instead of
being like red diamonds and gold stuff. I didn't understand
why you were just saying, like what door it was?
Speaker 3 (12:49):
It was so confusing and to go after Tom Sandibal,
who said five thousand different things, was just the kiss
of death for me because I can't listen to him
anyway on a good day, so I didn't want to
listen to anything he'd say and or understand him. So yeah,
so with one door left, I picked the wrong one
and embarrassed totally. No one did good in that game
(13:11):
and no one finished it. So I think they're going
to scrap that for one of the next mission missions moving.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Forward, or make it maybe a little bit easier, because
because I don't I think that. I truly think the
production wants you to get as much money as possible, and.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
They do, they do, But that was that just didn't work.
You know, whoever invented that one thinks in a different way.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Yeah, going back to the round table, uh, you know Dylan,
he kind of puts his neck out accusing Bob the
drag Queen and Robin of being traders. You know, they
do not respond lightly to that. You know, Bob gets
I tell you what though, I mean, like, it didn't
(13:54):
work out for Bob. But Bob is very good at arguing.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
He's very smart, Bob. We call him Bob DQ. He
is so very very intelligent, more than you know. And
then Dylan gets his first lick from a housewife of
his first beating, verbal beating from a housewife because Robin
just fucking tears his ass up. And he's so nice
(14:19):
and so pure. He's like, ugh, like he didn't know
what to expect. Now he's mister Dancing with the Stars
star Kid's gonna make it, isn't he?
Speaker 1 (14:27):
He might win this thing. I went to that taping
last week and saw his all tens and he's good.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
I know it's his time. It is his time. I'm
so happy for him because a nicer kid.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Did I tell you? Did I tell you? What his
dad said? It was like the cutest thing in the world,
no tell me. So after the dance, we're all kind
of like filing out, and I had been sitting next
to his father, who's like the cutest little like amalgamation
of both Zach and Dylan, but like smaller and just
nice and old and cute. And so someone came up
(15:03):
to me and was like was talking to me and
said something to the effect of like I'm a huge fan,
and I like what happened to you? And the traders
like still like rubs me the wrong way, and I'm
bummed that you were got out so quickly. And I
was like, oh, speaking of traders, this is Dylan's dad.
And then she turns to Dylan's dad and goes, oh
my god, I'm such a huge fan of Dylan. And
(15:24):
he turned to me and he goes, it's so nice.
For so long, I've only ever heard people being fans
of Zach, and now people are saying they're fans of Dylan,
and it makes me so happy. Oh, that's the.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Koddest thing we knew. That's so cute.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
And he loves his dad dearly, and he loves his
little sister so much. She would talk about his little
sister and brother a lot, and even incorporating his sister
what Olivia and is one of his dances.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
It was perfect, and.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
Ye you know, it's just and he took that with
such grace, being Zach's little brother.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Yeah, I mean, gonna be tough.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
He he's always been a fan of his brother. He's
never been jealous of his brother. Dylan is just purely
good and he was and it's just his time and
he deserves every bit of it.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
So I understand his dad feeling excited for him.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
You know, it's funny because whenever he's in interview, you know,
they'll say, they'll put his name on like the lower
third and the chiron, and then they say the show name, right,
So like, for you, I'm sure it says Housewives or whatever. Yeah,
for him, it says down to Earth and for the
longest time. So like on Batterm Paradise, what we do
usually is we'll put someone's name and then for the
(16:41):
lower third we'll say something that's funny, that's happening, like
losing their mind or something.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
I like that. I love that.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
It's great. And so I'm watching the show thinking of
it like that where I'm like, yeah, of course he's
down to Earth. And then I was like, oh no,
he was on a show with his brother called down
to Earth.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
That's a blonde moment.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
Yeah, he is like that's nice, Like, uh because it
actually is fitting.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Yeah exactly. Anyways, but yeah, he gets he gets absolutely
dismantled at the roundtable, Gabby dismantled invisted. I think it
was good though. I think he learned. He's like, I
better be better about, you know, speaking up and defending
myself going forward. I think it was a good learning
moment for him. But anyways, he's not the only person
(17:33):
that throws out some names. Gabby accuses Tony, and a
lot of people agree, including Rob. Did you think that
Tony could be a trader?
Speaker 3 (17:44):
I did, because he overly said I'm not a trader.
I'm not a trader. I'm not a trader. I came
here not to be a trader. I want to be
a faithful. And we know the way he played his games,
like I don't didn't know a lot about the gamers,
but what I was told about him as he used
to sneak into trees and listen, and he's won these
games so many times that him saying he never wanted
(18:09):
to be a trader was an absolute lie. So he
started out of the box lying to us. If he
would have just said, yeah, I fucking wanted to be
a trader, I'm not, but that's what I came here
to play, I would have thought more of him. But
because of that, like blatant lie, that's what bothered me
about him.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Well, unfortunately, Tony's days are numbered. In the Castle, he
gets the majority vote, he's banished out, he reveals he's
a faithful, he starts crying a little bit, which was,
you know, interesting, I guess. And then the last thing
he says, you know me and the criers.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
I'm like, what the fuck the guy's a cop until
we talk about Jeremy's exac.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
But yeah, so he starts crying. But the last thing
he says he points to Rob and he says, you're
a sellout, which is very interesting. Actually, oh it was
was like I wonder if that like a meat did
I wasn't there? Did that immediately put pressure on Rob?
Speaker 2 (19:08):
No, not immediately?
Speaker 1 (19:09):
No? Interesting? All right, So the traders don't meet up
in the turret because they're gonna be shortlisting three people
in playing site around the castle, and those people will
be put in a coffin to murder one of them. Danielle, Bob,
and Rob all make it into hidden bookcase discuss their plan.
(19:30):
Carolyn is lost and wandering around the castle looking for
all of them. Finally they're all together. They decide on
three names. But while they're in the hidden area, smart
little Gabby she hears something. She is, you know this
whole like Jennifer Coolidge, you know, like did see act
(19:51):
I never bought? I know how smart she is because
when you're really good in interview. That means you're really smart.
And so for you know, years, I've seen and you're
on the Bachelor, and she's so funny and so good
an interview, and I'm always like, I know that you're
really really smart. And seeing that whole thing of like
her walking in there and hearing.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
Being like, yeah, that bookcase really Once that was all revealed,
that's when I started to really think about who's who. Yeah,
that was a big clue. They really they by the
skin of their teeth got.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Out of that.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Gabby hears Danielle's voice behind the bookcase, but didn't stick
around to see who the other people in the bookcase were.
I kind of wish she had, but I can see
her being scared, especially if her spidy senses were going off,
that she didn't want to be seen by them, because
then she she would probably know that she would be
the next one to.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Go, Oh yeah, yeah, she'd have to go. She knows
too much.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Yeah, Dylan. Dylan also recognizes something's going on, so he
realizes like, something's not right, Like, so he searches the castle.
Did you have that feeling like something wasn't right and
something was going on behind the scenes.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
There was a smell.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
We smelled something burning and it was all the torches
outside and Brittany said to me, don't you feel something's
not right here? And I'm like, well, there's a smell.
I smell like fire or whatever that is. And that's
when immediately called to come outside. And that's when there
(21:31):
was three people in the coffins.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Yeah, oh no, there wasn't three. Sorry, they called them
to get in the coffins.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
So was this all on the same day that you
had the clown whatever mission? And then you go back,
you do your round table, you banish Tony, and then
you guys are just like still hanging around the castle.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
No, but I don't remember now.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Because I think the reason why I would have suspicious
of that if I had been there, would been like,
normally the plan of action is you do the roundtable
and then you wait in the bar area to be
taken back home. But if you were if you were
like they were like, go enjoy the castle, I'd be like,
something's going on. This is not normally what we're doing.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
And unfortunately I don't remember.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
But that's a really good question and we're gonna have
to ask put that note.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
That, so Jeremy, Nicky, and Sierra have been shortlisted for murder,
they have to lay in the coffins. Jeremy suspects Danielle
as a trader who wanted him murdered, which was very right,
but for his final words, he says he'll work with
the traders if they keep him around.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
I felt so bad for him. Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
I'm like all I could think about is when this airs,
the firemen are gonna rip him apart because.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
He's a fireman.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
And he like folded, like Sierras like, I'm gonna fucking
kill you traders, you could go fuck yourself. And then
Nicky's like, the reason to keep me around, it's because
I'm athletic, and she went on to say all the
reasons to keep her around, and then Jeremy's like he
got he choked up, he got nervous, and he like
kind of folded, you know.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
It's like, I'll work with you, just let me live.
And I'm like, this isn't real. What are you doing herself?
Don't do this? Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
I felt terrible. Well you don't even know, because like
you can't do that.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
I can't be a rat.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
You can't be a rat. I think one of the
smart things that traders did in this is not put
a trader in the box, because I think that you're
your tendency would be I want to throw in a
trader in there, so then they can use it as like, well,
I'm not a trader. They tried to kill me in
the coffin thing, and by not doing that, I think
(23:48):
it put a lot of suspicion on everyone.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
So it put them on everybody since anybody that was
in those coffins because in the past, one of the
traders was in the coffins.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Know That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
Yeah, So it was smart because now the reason Nicki
and Sierra were absolutely voted out was because they were
in the coffin.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Yeah, totally. Jeremy's the one that ends up going home,
which should have been it should have been more of
a red flag about Danielle, I feel like than it was,
because it was obvious that he was going after.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Right, and it definitely should have been.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
For some reason it wasn't, but it was before he
was very vocal about her. He only confided in Carolyn
that I had seen maybe somebody else. But because Danielle
was very careful to keep Brittany around.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Anybody who would put a.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
Potentially a point a finger at her or would say, oh,
if they're gone, it's because So that's why Brittany was
kept around for as long as she was.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
At breakfast. The next morning, Gabby reveals her suspicions of Danielle.
Seems like, you know, the walls are closing in. Robin
decides to address everyone at breakfast and asks who was
in the bookcase last night. Danielle admits she and Dylan
were there, which he confirms, and so then Gabby's back
to square one. Then, right, I don't know what's going on.
(25:30):
I wish that Dylan hadn't gone into that bookshelf.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
That was such a that totally cleared Danielle from what
everyone thought.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
Yeah, that was it.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
So Dylan unknowingly saved Danielle's.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Ass absolutely for the challenge. You got forty five minutes
to reconstruct these massive statues. This looked like this this
mission sucked.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
It was so hard. Yeah, was so.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
But during this mission there was some fight over some shields.
We did not We did it unanimous. Derek was on
my team. He knew that they were after him. He
needed the shield. We gave it to him.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
This is the moment that kind of solidifies Bob the
Drag Queen's banishment. Or he says something, it's a throwaway
line for him, but it's the thing that Rob needed
by saying that, like, one of the guys in the
cages are probably a trader, and that puts I just
(26:35):
think that Rob wanted to get rid of Bob the
Drag Queen. He was like, I think I need to
be the one in the turret that is kind of
delegating everything and this personality is too big. And he
finally got something and he was able to like furious.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
When he said that.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
Yeah, Boston Rob's face if you watch it when he
says that, he would have punched him in the like
that Italian temper kicked in quick. I think that he
was looking for something because I didn't see anything. Him
saying anything so wrong like that wasn't the worst thing.
Somebody could say. They could have had it out about it.
(27:14):
He wanted him dead.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
I like, listen, there's no question that Boston Robb is
very smart, and him doing this I think actually was
really really smart. He knew that Dylan was on to
Bob the Drag Queen. He probably had a thought that
I'm Boston Robb. People are gonna think I'm a trader.
So if I team up with Dylan get this trader out,
(27:39):
then I have deniability to say I was one who
got this guy out. I can't be a trader. But
he does make one fatal flaw where he says in
the roundtable going against Bob the Drag Queen, he says,
you're one hundred percent a trader. And Wes is the
person who kept who catches onto that by saying, how's
(28:02):
the what's the only way that you know that someone's
one hundred percent a.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Trader to be a trader?
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Yeah, it's the one thing. I think it was his
one slip up the entire.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Wes and Derek were after Boston Rob.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
Anyway, Yeah, because they had to know. Listen, I've watched
Wes on the Challenge for years. He's really really smart,
and they had to know that, like, surely one of
us is going to be a trader. And Wes and
Wes and both Derek both were like, well it's not me,
so it's gotta be Rob, you know. So they yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
(28:37):
you know, like they had Yeah that way. Anyways, the roundtable,
Derek calls out Sierra because she was uh in a coffin.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
And swearing, wearing a lot.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
It's like, have you watched It's at Summerhouse that she's.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Suck Like, of course, Eric, that's how we all talk. Bravo,
what do you mean? This is how we articulate ourselves. Sorry,
the Bravo world.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
It's a sign of Studies say that cussing a lot
is a sign of high intelligence.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Actually, thank you.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
Yeah, you're welcome. But Rob's not having any of it.
He's like, listen, we gotta be uh, we gotta be
getting on Bob the drag queen, who's the guy who's
been quarterbacking the whole show. Bob and Rob start going
at each other's throats. Dylan stands up for Rob, which
Dylan does for a lot of this series.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
Oh they're still having to make out all the time.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
I know, I see moretok, I see more tiktoks with
them together, skipping and holding hands.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
I'm like, guys, I've just reverted to commenting on all
of those videos. Just kiss already. Just let it happen, guys,
let's do it.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Come on, we're here for it. We all support you.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
It's okay, it's time to vote. Most of the faithfuls
and the traders vote for Bob the drag Queen. Before
Bob leaves, he puts on it, I was the first vote.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
By the way you were, I was.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
Was that hard for you to vote for him?
Speaker 2 (30:12):
No? No, I knew. I knew that he was that.
I was very very I almost switched my vote. I was.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
Me and Bob Harper were sitting next to each other
and he's like, what are you doing? But because I
have to tell you, you know what, I'll tell you
after we're done, after we talk about his speech on
his way out.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
Okay, yeah, so he you know, he puts on absolutely
fantastic show. He says that. You know, he says before
like I swear to God, I'm not and.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
He's pounding and he's getting worked up and he's being
dramatic and theatrical and he's I swear on God, I
will never tell a lie, but I will tell a truth.
And he said a lot of it, and he was
like people were like get nervous, like they're shitting their pasty, Like,
oh my god, he's really.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Saying this was such conviction.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
However, I'll leave you with this, and it's a behind
the scenes thing. So his mom had passed away sadly,
and it was a week to the day that he
came to Scotland from her funeral.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
He was very close with his mother.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
And he would start to have serious meltdowns, and right
before that roundtable he started to have a melt down
and get worked up because he also started to hear
his name being thrown around, like he feels like it's
closing in on him.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
I can't imagine as.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
A trader when you know it's like the end of
your little stint here. So me and Robin put our
dishes down and we try to walk it off with him.
And Robin knows about sports, and Robin's smart as well,
and we try to talk to him about different things. Well,
I don't really know a lot about a lot of things.
So I'm like, well, let me talk to him about religion.
(31:59):
So I said, you know, do you have a strong faith?
Speaker 2 (32:01):
Rob He's like, I don't believe in that fucking shit.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
So now he's at the round table and he's pound
in his hand. I swear on God, I swear to God.
Now I know he's lying because he just told me,
but he told me in a vulnerable position. Wells he
told me, And here I am looking at this kid
like I have a son. What if he was crying
over me? God forbid, I can't throw this in his
face right now. But the votes were going his way anyway,
(32:29):
so they didn't need me to do that. So after
it's all over and he gets up and he says
his speech, I don't believe in God, and he.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
Leaves and I go, well, he did tell me. And
then Tom's like, why didn't you say something?
Speaker 3 (32:43):
You should have brought that out, And I'm like, you
know what, I have a son. I couldn't do it
to him. He told me confidence when he was crying
over his mother.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
And also, if you can see the tide turning anyways,
there's no point in him right like he's going to
be going home.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
I don't need to I don't need to do something
I didn't need to do that would have done something
that I felt was wrong and just morally wrong, you know.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
So it was enough. Tom.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
The thing that he that bonb the drag Queen says
that would have made me question is when he says like,
I'll tell you nine words, and then he like goes
on his thing. I would have been like, how did
you know it was nine words? Unless you like thought
like you thought about right your exit speech.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Didn't you didn't think about your exit speech. If you didn't,
you did a damn good job. You're still you were
still in the top.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
Why didn't think I did to get bantaged in the
second episode, There's no way I was thinking that way.
But he was like, by the way, you nine words,
I'd have been like, nine words one, that's amazing. Anyways,
he's the one who goes he's got a he's got
a fantastic exit, to be honest with you, and it
must have felt really really nice to finally get a
trader out.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
Oh it felt great. You know, you get nervous because
Alan starts putting pressure. He's like, guys, come on, come on,
they're winning.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
What are you doing.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
They're making you all look like jerks, and you feel
like a jerk, especially when you're voting out people you
were close to and you're wrong, or especially you know,
this had to happen tonight. There was no more room
to get another another round table wrong, another banishment wrong,
there was no room.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
You don't know how terrible you feel.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
Starting with you, who everyone loved, and then it was
just bad.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
Yeah, well, congratulations, you guys finally got out a trader
and then it kind of ends with Wes again. We
talked about this earlier, but realizing that you can only
be one hundred percent share someone's a trader unless you're
a trader yourself, which is kind of the beginning of
the end of Boston Rod. Yeah, and that is the episode.
(35:00):
So yeah, I'm excited for the next one.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
Me too.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
I'm getting good.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
Now, why did they get out of Trader? It starts
to roll?
Speaker 1 (35:09):
Yeah, yeah, and I'm now that I'm off the show.
My anxiety of watching it is over and now it's
just fun to watch a long programming note. I'm excited
to announce that the next episode we have will be
an interview with Lord Ivar, which is going to be very,
very fun for everyone.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
He is a great guy. He has the best, most
contagious laugh ever.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
Yeah. I loved him. I like getting to know him.
It was side note about Lord Ivar's I thought he
was definitely a trader. You didn for some reason after
when we took the masks off. When I looked at him,
he looked like he had seen a ghost. He looked
like he was freaking out. And I was like, that's
(35:53):
an interesting thing to be exuding. And I was like,
surely he's a trader. My do you want to know
what my thought was? My thought was, he's a trader.
I'm going to become best friends with him. He's going
to shield me the entire season.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
Well that was a good thought. I mean, yeah, it
just picked the wrong guy.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
Yeah, Unfortunately he was not a trader. He did not
shield me, and I went out the next episode.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
But we still want you back.
Speaker 3 (36:19):
Yeah, I still need I would give anything to go
back and play differently.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
But well, here's the thing. You know, the game is
rasor thin. As you know. In the beginning of this episode,
they're up in the turret and you might be the
one that got kicked out, you know, more than once. Yeah,
so you never know. You got to live the fight
another day. Fun episode. If you're not following us on
social media, please do at by order of the Faithfuls
(36:45):
on Instagram dm us there send us videos and questions
and we can answer them here on the show. Like
I said, the next episode, we're going to be talking
to Lord Ivar, and then we will be doing episodes
five and six, and then we are inching closer to
season four.
Speaker 3 (37:04):
And we'll be watching it together. So season four, remember,
we're going to talk about this together. And I think
season four we should have some some fans like write
in or come on even Yeah, I'm gonna let's do
a TikTok. I want to do like a TikTok. How
do we reach to the traders people. A lot of
people don't know about this yet.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
I know we shtu TikTok do it. I got a lot,
but I'm sure do you have a large following on TikTok?
Speaker 2 (37:31):
I haven't looked. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (37:32):
It's not I have probably not as big as yours.
TikTok isn't my strong point.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
I have a million something on Instagram.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
But well, let's do it, and then let's both do
it put it out together. Okay, you know, all right?
Speaker 2 (37:44):
Sounds good?
Speaker 1 (37:45):
All right, everyone, Thanks for listening to the show, and
don't forget to like subscribe and tell your friends, and
we'll be back next week for all you faithfuls and
traders out there. See you see yeah,
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