January 25, 2024 • 28 mins
Emily Simpson.
Cynthia Bailey.
Angie Katsanevas.
Carlos King.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
To with Teddy Mellencamp and Tamorra Judge.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
All Right, guys, welcome to another episode of to Teas
and Pod with Myself Camp. And we are very excited
because not only do we have Emily Simpson here, we
have Cynthia Bailey and.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
The finest girl is in reality TV. But here's the
thing we actually know what ag.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Yeah, I love that you're.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Going on no, but I think this is a pivotal
podcast because soon Cynthia will be recapping Orange County with me,
and you need to kind of grill them a little bit,
not about what we're going to see on the show
that they can't share with us, but anything that you
thought about last year that you you may have said.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
Or don't break out you are one half whole moment
and and I.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
One that really really triggered me. Okay, there was it
was only one. The other stuff.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
I thought you just understood the assignment so bad.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
The napkin thing wore me out.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
That's just coming from someone who's been in the position
where something like that could escalate to a bigger thing.
Speaker 5 (01:21):
Well, there was a chop, okay, But here's the thing.
Speaker 6 (01:27):
The culprit of the napkin. It wasn't going to escalate
because she wasn't going to do anything back. If she
threw a napkin in my face, it would have been.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Absolutely Was you giving her a little kick the way
that Cynthia gave Uh?
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Well, way you got to bring up old stuffs. I
was protecting my space and I just would want to
go on the record to say that I am immediate.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
I immediately felt horrible. Yeah, okay, like you immediately.
Speaker 5 (01:56):
When you get so frustrated that you can't use your
big girl, but I gotta kicks.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
I literally could not risk. I almost was like, can
you just come over and kick me back?
Speaker 5 (02:06):
She came after my marriage, you can after my marriage
and my kids like that?
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Well, yeah, I have a question I have coming after
her relationship at the same time, maybe.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Yes, yeah, why okay?
Speaker 6 (02:19):
But when you when you have legitimate concerns about someone's relationship,
I think that's okay. But when someone has a solid
marriage and you come after that, and that's when you
get pissed. Like if you're gonna come after me and Shane,
I'm gonna get pissed.
Speaker 5 (02:30):
But did you how frustrated I was when she basically
said like I think she was insinuated I had the
hots for him. I mean I couldn't. I was either
punching the throat or throw a napkin.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
And yeah, yeah, listen, if you're not turned on by
those coats that Ryan wears, then I don't know.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
I still want one.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
By the way, No, No, the thing with you, Tam, Like,
I get it, it's a show. You guys have to
bring up the obvious things that are going on. Well, okay,
and that's fine.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
I can respect that.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
It just was a point where I felt like you
just needed to let it go, and you just wouldn't
let it go.
Speaker 5 (03:02):
But what you did not see is I'm not the
one that brought all that up. There was a bunch
of people that brought that up, and we're pulling it
out and I'm like, I was frustrated because I thought
we were done.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
With it because I didn't really see that many other people.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (03:17):
I was not the one that brought it up at
the table. I thought that me and Jen had put
all this behind us, and then I think Gina was
the one maybe throughout the it's really sim and then
and then whatever it is, what it is.
Speaker 6 (03:30):
Or she was making references to you, like saying that
Ryan was hot, or you wanted to take his shirt off,
or that just like something like that.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
It's a hot person because I actually ever thought he
was that hot, Like I mean, you guys made it
seem like that guy was like like everybody in Orange County.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
One way.
Speaker 5 (03:44):
I will tell you when he's okay, he came to
our gym, he would always wear a hat, okay, and
so it covered.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
The I can say that any man and a hat
and sunglasses can appear hot because.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Everything's covered up. You can't actually mean you can't actually.
Speaker 5 (04:03):
Hoses on to we all are.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
The other night we were at No.
Speaker 5 (04:14):
But I will say I don't think he's an I
don't think he's an ugly man.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
No no, no, no, no.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
No no, not a bad looking guy. He's just not
as hot as no.
Speaker 5 (04:23):
He would come to the gym, and he works he's
a he works out hard, and I appreciate somebody that
puts out much time and effort into their body. And
you know, he he was charming actually when he came
to our him.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
Yeah, well I thought I actually like this personality, like
the kind Yeah, I thought it was very likable.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Let's put you on the spot.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Great, let's do it.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
If you had to pick one husband from lis of
Orange County boy.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
To have a tryst with, who would it be?
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Oh my god?
Speaker 3 (04:57):
And don't act like you're above this because we know.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
Okay, Okay, all right, I'm just gonna go with the one.
Her name is Is it Shannon Bador? Is that the
one that's married to the plastic surgeon guy.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Shes Orange County? Okay, I know it's so much trouble.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
I guess I know it's the rich one with him,
and that's like with there's a reason for him.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
What's the reason?
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Well, I can get off free work.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
I'm getting older, I'm about to celebrate my fifty.
Speaker 6 (05:34):
He's a really he's like a nice guy.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
He's a very nice He seems like he completely loves
his wife.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Agree.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
Okay, yeah, I feel like I mean, I've gone through
two marriages and two divorces and I can make it
work with a guy like him.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Hates he hates you. Oh I hope nobody can really
hate you.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
I know, for our husbands to stay married, does they
must really love us?
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Yeah? Heather seems like she has a great life. I
would love to And you know, funny is Hilary funny.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
I wish they didn't dislike me so much so that
I could get to know them.
Speaker 5 (06:08):
Well, I think you were an apology. I. Oh, she
was at Bravokan and she had a few too many
and she I don't even know if you remember.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
This, but when she made I'm sorry, Oh, she.
Speaker 5 (06:20):
Just doubled down with the Instagram story.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
Hold on, I'm going to back up here.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
The reason why I started with Heather du Brow was
because I was having your back. Oh remember when you
guys were having all of your issues, but you guys
were fine at that moment.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
It's always Sammer's fault.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Always.
Speaker 5 (06:44):
I just say, you just just I'm sorry for being
so hard on you.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
Are you going to go and apologize to all?
Speaker 7 (06:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
At Bravo con, I said, let's squash the beef right now,
let's be done with it, and she said sure, and
then she changed her mind.
Speaker 5 (06:57):
Oh, we're not going to be talking about Heather to
bro on my dime.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Okay, Well, I already made Tamra hundred dollars bet that.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
I bet by the end of this season they're going
to have a fight. No, I don't think so. I
totally disagree with that. I know I don't pay on
my bets.
Speaker 5 (07:12):
But she's the same girl that just said, do you
think you and Gina are going to be at odds
at the end of the season.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
I did know with me.
Speaker 7 (07:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
I didn't say do you think you're gonna be at odds?
Speaker 2 (07:21):
I said do you think there's ever anything that she
could do to ever?
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Put?
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Like?
Speaker 3 (07:25):
I feel like I have friendships that I was on
and I was on the show for less than all
of you guys.
Speaker 5 (07:29):
So when is Kyle going to stop talking to you?
Speaker 1 (07:32):
That's my point.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
I don't think there ever will be that point, because
I don't think I will ever cross that line with
her when I crossed that line.
Speaker 5 (07:39):
If you worked with her on the show, do you
think you would cross that line?
Speaker 3 (07:42):
No?
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Never see.
Speaker 6 (07:44):
I agree with that because I feel like you have to.
I feel like I'm the kind of person who actually
wants to be friends with people, and I want to
have real friendships.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
And if you want to have a real friendship, you.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Have to draw a line.
Speaker 6 (07:54):
So if Gina said to me, as a friend, I
want to tell you something. I need your advice, but
please don't ever bring this up on the show. I
would never do it.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
I agree, never.
Speaker 6 (08:05):
Ground and I would get fired over it because at
the end of the day, my personal integrity is worth
more than the show.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
But the fake friendships where they say that they're close
with you, but then once the show ends they never
make any effort to ever talk to you again. They
don't know your personal life, they don't know your kids.
Then it's like, okay, yeah, I probably could easily go
that friendship under the bus because I don't think it's
an authentic friendship.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
Yeah, I mean I agree with it. I mean be clear,
like when you're on a show with six different women.
I mean, I've been off Atlanta for two years now.
Obviously I saw all of those ladies a lot more
when I work with them, because I only teve years.
It feels like it feels like ten people like are
you ready to come back?
Speaker 1 (08:48):
I'm like, hey, you coming back? I just left. Do
you know anything about.
Speaker 5 (08:51):
What's going and you can't say, but do you know
anything that's going on with casting right now?
Speaker 1 (08:55):
I do not know what's going on with There's.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
We heard that Drew so and so who was the
third person and Courtney were all budded. She was.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
I don't know, to be honest with you, but I
don't think that that is entirely true. I don't think
they've made a decision in my opinion, Well, how long
ago they.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Film the reunion? Normally they give contracts right after the reunion.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Having a shakeup me.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
She hasn't heard anything.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
That's what everyone's telling me to the few people that
I've talked to.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Do you think there's a chance for Needi to ever
come back?
Speaker 1 (09:41):
I don't know. I mean I think want to come back.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Yes, I think.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
That in my heart of hearts.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
And we just reconnected and Dubai and well Abbi Dabby
and that was great because like, no matter what, like
that was a real friendship for a really long time.
The will always be there for her and I have
zero interest in just being enemies with Lakes, you know
what I'm saying, especially because we were really really good friends.
(10:09):
And I mean we're not even on the show. I'm
not on the show. She's not on the show. So
it's like, okay, so what what are we over here
griping about? I felt like she was always great on
the show. I came on the show my third season,
season three on the show as Nini's friend, so I
saw how she helped shape that show in so many ways.
(10:29):
But I do believe as someone who's not on the
show anymore, you know, I love when people kind of
go in and out because sometimes you just need a break.
Speaker 5 (10:36):
Well, you know what I'm saying, you're a floating housewife
at this point. You were on Let's just break it down.
We saw you on Beverly Hills.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
Question fo a floating housewife. I was a consistent housewife
Looly as a friend. I never floated.
Speaker 5 (10:50):
No, no, no, no, I'm talking about currently. We saw you're
not on permanent on any housewife show. Well, you come
on Orange County with us.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
I would love to go. You guys are always on both.
Speaker 5 (11:03):
Okay, So I'm thinking, as they traveling nurses, try not
should be a position for certain iconic housewives that just
show up to different parties and different franchises. Yeah, that's
all I'm saying, just to make it, just make an appearance.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
It is so much fun for me after being on eleven,
being on Atlanta for eleven years, to just kind of
pop in and out. I mean, I feel like a
certain sisterhood to all of you guys. Even this is
my first time even meeting you, and I was like,
I fell in love with you just from recapping with Teddy,
But I've never really hung out with you before. Tamra,
I'll only kind of wash you from as far as
Bravo con but I feel like you guys are people.
So yes, I love the idea of just being able
(11:42):
to organically and authentically dentively be in a space with
you guys.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
It's just real.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
So if I'm hanging out in Orange County and you
guys are filming, sure I'll go on the.
Speaker 6 (11:51):
Boat d talk about the boat right pressure, no pressure,
have fun.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
And before we get into our plastic surgery conversation, I.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Do need to ask one additional thing.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Oh God, do you think when it comes to housewive
shows and when they're doing well or when they're not
doing well, do you think that much heat really falls
on the showrunner or it happens because of the relationships
with the women.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
I think the show is all about, at the end
of the day, the relationship with the women. After again,
eleven years, I've seen showrunners come and go, and I've
seen us have amazing seasons with a show a showrunner
who wasn't there great, they just let us do what
we do, which I think is the best way to
let it go.
Speaker 5 (12:36):
Have you not over sh yes, and you felt like
the show still and.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
We still did right because we had a great cast.
Well I think that and we had great stories. Yeah,
great friends.
Speaker 5 (12:47):
But I kind of feel like it's it's everything. I
feel like this is the majority everybody that's working on
it's the talent, it's a production company, it's a showrunner.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
Cast, a great show runner.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
If you have a bad cast.
Speaker 5 (13:03):
But what I have learned in my fourteen years of
filming Housewives, we only have a show runner for two
years and it's somebody new.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
Well, I don't like blaming production and showrunners for a
bad season personally, because, like I said, I've seen us
have you know production that you know they were okay
and an okay showrunner still have a banging ass season.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
Well, how was Carlos King?
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Amazing? Amazing, amazing? So why do you like, can we
just call him? I know it's called Carlos. Oh, I'm
gonna call Okay, let's call Carlos. He just asked us
to do his life and you can ask.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
Him why did it stop? Because I don't know what stopped.
I just know that he was a great showrunner. He
was Carlos was a sure runner. When I first know it.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Was the second season that I came on. I can't remember.
Speaker 6 (13:52):
But how many different showrunners have you had in fourteen years?
Speaker 5 (13:55):
On every two years there's a new one.
Speaker 6 (13:56):
So you've had seven different ones? Yeah, at least, I
mean I've had three different show runners.
Speaker 4 (14:01):
But just for the record, though, before we go into
the call both tox and fillers, I have not completely
closed the door to housewives. Like my answer is always
going to be just not right now. And that's just
the honest truth. Like I did it for a long time,
and I am one hundred percent focused on my acting
career and I just have a lot of other stuff
(14:21):
going on, and I love that I can still get to,
you know, popping in that one.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
I want to.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
As a matter of fact, I'm going to do watch
what Happens Live like in two weeks for like a
show going on script. I still see everybody all the time.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
Who do you think that of the current cast that
you're closest with?
Speaker 4 (14:38):
Oh that's you know what when you brought that up
about like, once you leave a show, who you are
still going to be friends with, who will still take
your call or whatever. I actually wondered about that, like,
once I start working with these ladies, I was like, Okay,
now I'm going to see who really really is my
friend friend and I have to say that everyone of
those ladies on the cast all and you like the
(15:02):
moment I hit down in Atlanta, I'm getting texts like, hey,
are you in Atlanta, Let's go for drinks, let's go
for dinner, and it's all off camera, and I just.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Because need you back? No no, no, no, no no no no.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
In the room right now.
Speaker 5 (15:18):
I have Cynthia Bailey, I have Emily Simpson, and I
have Teddy Joe right there.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Carlos down, hold on, you have to put in.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
I feel like your phone is dirty.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
You need to say, Carlos, all right, talk loudly and
don't move around.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
Okay, can you hear uside?
Speaker 7 (15:40):
Can you hear me?
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Yeah, we can hear you.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
We just had a quick question because we were just
talking about how important showrunners are for these Real Housewives shows.
If you can still have a good show without a
good show runner, blah, blah blah, and and Cynthia said, yes,
you can still have a good show if you have
a great cast.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
However, Carlos King was the best of.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
The best, the King, but nobody did it better.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
But it's so sure that Carlos.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
You know, I'm always going to give you your flowers,
and I always appreciate when you give them back.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Okay, but my question for you is why did you
leave Atlanta?
Speaker 7 (16:21):
Oh? Simply put two reasons. One, I was there for
like eight nine years, and I felt like I've done
everything I could with that show, and Cynthia can attest
to that.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
Amen.
Speaker 7 (16:33):
And I wanted to like expand and start my own
production company. So I moved to Los Angeles afterwards because
I felt that there's nothing more I could do and
I had to move on.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Do you miss it, like when you see it struggling
like this past season, Jesus, Like when you see that happening,
you're like, say that you're in a safe space, just
us and our million closest friends.
Speaker 7 (17:05):
I know, I know the number one podcast or a
TV film, Go ahead, sister.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
But do you when you watch it, are you like shit?
If that was me, I would do blah blah blah.
And my last question for you is what would you
do right now to save Atlanta.
Speaker 7 (17:20):
Well, I think they would have to bring a brink
truck for that answer, so I can't give that away
for a free but I will say this as Cynthia
I wanted to agree with me. When I look at Atlanta,
it's easy to fix. And that's and that's the crazy part.
When I look at it, I think it's so simple,
(17:44):
authentic friendships.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Who are you gonna fire? Well, you know when they ask.
Speaker 7 (17:48):
Me these questions from Patty Honey to me, to me,
to me, to me to me, there's too many politics involved,
and that's that's the issue.
Speaker 4 (18:02):
Well, when they asked me that question, Carlos, I said
that because I don't like what's happening now with everything
being the fault of the showrunner or production, Like, I
don't like it falling and the blame going to them entirely,
because I don't think that's necessarily true.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
When you were show.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
Running Atlanta for many, many years, which was amazing, amazing,
no matter what was going on, the cast was what.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Really helped keep that show together.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
If you had the right cast, no matter what was
going on, we had a good show, true or not true.
Speaker 7 (18:33):
I will always say this, it's a collaborative effort, right,
I say, I agree.
Speaker 4 (18:37):
But Carlos, you can have a great production team and
a great showrunner. If you don't have the right cast,
you're not going to have a good show.
Speaker 7 (18:44):
So I left to do another show because I was
figed in my production company. I was bad to come
back season eight to fix it because the showrunner who
they hired just wasn't doing a good job. And Cynthia
knows this. When I came back, we foilnd Cynthia's party,
and that's when Chara almost threw a drink at Kenya.
(19:05):
Because at the end of the day, it's a collaborative effort.
So here I am. I'm inheriting the cast already, but
nothing was happening. When I came in.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Everything started to happen because they had a relationship with
you and they trust you.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
But my last question is if you had.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
To boot to and bring two new people in, who
would it be.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
It could be past people.
Speaker 7 (19:31):
I'm not gonna say boots.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Fine, let's not say boot Let's say demote them to friends.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
Let's just say fire.
Speaker 7 (19:39):
I'll say this, I'll say this. I'll say this. I'll
say this. I'll say this. The only thing I will
say is the best cast in the world. In the
world was.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Season six And you're gonna say that.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
So season six was Cynthia, charae Nini Portia, Sedra can
Kenya Phaedra Am I missing anymore the best and.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
I think Marlo's was that was that? It Carlos Yeah,
and Marlow is a friend.
Speaker 7 (20:12):
Yeah, was perfect.
Speaker 5 (20:23):
Oh hold on, hold on, Carlos, hold on, hold on,
we have her right now, we have get in here.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
Sit your ass down. You get over her.
Speaker 5 (20:34):
Ji k we have one of the biggest housewife producer.
Speaker 8 (20:40):
Damn.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Sit down.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
Oh you're in the hot seat right now.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
You didn't even get to like warm up.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
Guy.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Oh this guy?
Speaker 5 (20:48):
Okay, So this is Carlos can Hi, Carlos.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
I love you, I think.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Okay.
Speaker 8 (20:57):
Happy to answer that I didn't been against anyone. I'm
going off my personal experience coming on the show with
this woman thinking that she wanted to be my friend.
First week of filming, she starts going around to each
of the women. She starts talking about me, saying, my
marriage is fake. Thank you. It's arranged that I'm a fraud,
(21:19):
that I'm in the fucking organized crime, that I launder money,
that my businesses are fake, that I'm bankrupt and broke.
So all these things in week one of filming, all
behind my back, all on camera, saying she doesn't like me.
So now all this comes back to me. So the
reunion is my opportunity to call her out, hold her
(21:39):
accountable for saying all these things. I'm a loyal friend,
and I came to the show to be myself, which
is be loyal. She did a lot of damage to
me personally, saying that my husband's basically like deceptive, leading
two lives, and that my marriage is arranged. So I'm
not banning against any one. I'm speaking on my personal experience.
(22:02):
Don't worry. We're gonna change your mind by the end
of this weekend. Oh god, what do you guys gonna do?
You're gonna have to buy me. Would you admit? Would
you admit?
Speaker 7 (22:13):
Would you admit that she brought eyeballs to the show
courtesy of the dynamic?
Speaker 8 (22:20):
Okay, I can admit that one season for entertainment purposes
and shock value, she has now lost trust of all
the viewers. She well ninety nine point nine percent. She
has lost trust of all the ladies. So next season,
when she comes back and says, hey, Carlos, I heard
your boyfriend is bending over some other guy in his office.
Are you gonna look at her and say to you?
(22:41):
Who's gonna believe a word? She says, right, who's gonna
believe anything she says about the cast? Anything she says?
She's She's lied. She's been exposed for being a liar
and a trolled. She has zero credibility. How do you
come back? How do you have another redo? It's over?
In my opinion, Yes, has the.
Speaker 7 (23:00):
Ability line on producers and they gave.
Speaker 8 (23:02):
Her the black eye? Okay, okay, do you want are
you do you want to ask you a question? Do
you want me to?
Speaker 7 (23:06):
Yeah? Yeah? Why is it? Why are you ladies upset
with Monica not saying you shouldn't be, but you don't
have that same any different to me had They're more
dangerous because the production had to do an investigation due
to Heather lying on production saying they could have an
at the footage?
Speaker 2 (23:25):
Hit the footage?
Speaker 7 (23:25):
Could they have given her the black eye? All the while?
Jen did it?
Speaker 8 (23:29):
Okay, go ahead? Have you ever met Jenshaw. No, okay,
she is a woman that can walk in the room.
She's charismatic. Everyone loves her, from the ninety year old
to the librarian, to the dentist to the d.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
I didn't like her. I nine year olds loved jin
No she no year old people she didn't.
Speaker 8 (23:50):
But listen, like, I have been with this woman and
she's charismatic. She she had redeeming qualities right and until
she pled guilty, we had to believe her right. So
I have been in Heather's position at times with jen
where there's a reason she was swindling people out of money.
(24:11):
She is good at what she does. Like we were
in love with a woman, you know.
Speaker 7 (24:16):
But Angie, this is the thing, though, Angie, I understand that.
My thing is you, Colion say you don't remember.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Why would you?
Speaker 7 (24:25):
Why would you lie and incriminate production who make minimum wage?
They leave their family at home?
Speaker 8 (24:32):
My agent to go to Salt Lake City.
Speaker 7 (24:34):
Heather is Diabola calls she's a troublemaker. I'm more afraid
of Heather than Monica.
Speaker 8 (24:41):
Okay, okay, let me answer that. In my personal experience
with both of them. Heather she uses her humor and
she admits that she used in the wrong way, like,
oh well, maybe it's production. She was scirty around the issues.
She admitted she should not have said that she was
terrified and we've all been everything about it.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
You got in jail.
Speaker 8 (25:05):
Jen was already on the show for three years. This
is different than Monica. Okay, because Jen was already on
the show for three years. The women were stuck with her.
There was no getting rid of her. It was like
it was like a cast member or someone you work
with that you just had to figure out the best
way around staying on the show with this person and
dealing with them. Okay, there was a lot of let
(25:25):
me ask a question.
Speaker 6 (25:26):
Yeah, if she was really terrified of Jen, we all were.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Yeah, But why wouldn't you.
Speaker 6 (25:31):
Go to production and say, I'm terrified of this woman.
She gave me a black eye.
Speaker 8 (25:37):
I think it's because she wasn't you Wait, I'm gonna
say one last thing, Heather. Heather blacks out when she drinks,
and I don't think she really fully knew what the
hell happened. She apologized. Matthew did not.
Speaker 7 (25:48):
Continue with the lie. Heather is duplicit it. She continue
with the lie to sell books. She's not a bad morment,
she's a bad person.
Speaker 8 (25:57):
Okay, wait, I will say one. I will say one
last thing. That Heather had regrets and apologized Monica did
not right, there would have been some redemption for Monica potential.
Speaker 7 (26:07):
Well, I will say this, Angie. I love you. By
the way I said you are comedy relief. I do
call you hurricane Angie because because you're like the forecast
with the wind. But I will say this. I will
say this. Yes, there was once a show called The
Real Housewives of Dallas. The show got canceled when somebody
(26:29):
was gone. There was a show called The Real house
Wives of oc and Emily, Yes, you can attest to this.
When was gone, it wasn't great.
Speaker 6 (26:41):
No, I agree with that.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
So Angie, K.
Speaker 7 (26:44):
Look at me girl and your and your expensive sunglasses.
Speaker 8 (26:48):
This is just because I've known.
Speaker 7 (26:49):
All I'm going to say is this, You guys are
the talk of the town, just like Danielle Style did
to New Jersey. At the end of the day, you
always have to do what hammer judge does you put
on your producer, Hannah, You say, I may feel this way,
but what is best for the show. And at the
end of the day I would have done this. Bring
(27:12):
this bitch back so we can we can get we
can get at her some more.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
Maybe you will continue on.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
Left.
Speaker 4 (27:24):
Okay, Oh, don't drag me into this man.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Okay, guys, I know that that we got a lot.
Thank you so much, Carlos King. We got a whoa
and pop in another bottle. But we do have to
wrap this episode. But we will bring an Angie K
officially and not have Carlos King solely grill her. We
will all do it. So please make sure to tune
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in to the next episode, where Angie will be giving
us all her hot takes. But I'm also gonna put
Angie up to a task.
Speaker 8 (28:00):
Yes, ma'am.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
In your response, you cannot use more than twelve words.
Speaker 8 (28:05):
I know, I'll land the plane. I'll keep it.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
That's the rule. If you can do it in twelve words,
we'll believe you.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
All right, tune in, guys, thanks for joining us.
To with Teddy Mellencamp and Tamorra Judge.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
All Right, guys, welcome to another episode of to Teas
and Pod with Myself Camp. And we are very excited
because not only do we have Emily Simpson here, we
have Cynthia Bailey and.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
The finest girl is in reality TV. But here's the
thing we actually know what ag.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Yeah, I love that you're.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Going on no, but I think this is a pivotal
podcast because soon Cynthia will be recapping Orange County with me,
and you need to kind of grill them a little bit,
not about what we're going to see on the show
that they can't share with us, but anything that you
thought about last year that you you may have said.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
Or don't break out you are one half whole moment
and and I.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
One that really really triggered me. Okay, there was it
was only one. The other stuff.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
I thought you just understood the assignment so bad.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
The napkin thing wore me out.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
That's just coming from someone who's been in the position
where something like that could escalate to a bigger thing.
Speaker 5 (01:21):
Well, there was a chop, okay, But here's the thing.
Speaker 6 (01:27):
The culprit of the napkin. It wasn't going to escalate
because she wasn't going to do anything back. If she
threw a napkin in my face, it would have been.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Absolutely Was you giving her a little kick the way
that Cynthia gave Uh?
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Well, way you got to bring up old stuffs. I
was protecting my space and I just would want to
go on the record to say that I am immediate.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
I immediately felt horrible. Yeah, okay, like you immediately.
Speaker 5 (01:56):
When you get so frustrated that you can't use your
big girl, but I gotta kicks.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
I literally could not risk. I almost was like, can
you just come over and kick me back?
Speaker 5 (02:06):
She came after my marriage, you can after my marriage
and my kids like that?
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Well, yeah, I have a question I have coming after
her relationship at the same time, maybe.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Yes, yeah, why okay?
Speaker 6 (02:19):
But when you when you have legitimate concerns about someone's relationship,
I think that's okay. But when someone has a solid
marriage and you come after that, and that's when you
get pissed. Like if you're gonna come after me and Shane,
I'm gonna get pissed.
Speaker 5 (02:30):
But did you how frustrated I was when she basically
said like I think she was insinuated I had the
hots for him. I mean I couldn't. I was either
punching the throat or throw a napkin.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
And yeah, yeah, listen, if you're not turned on by
those coats that Ryan wears, then I don't know.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
I still want one.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
By the way, No, No, the thing with you, Tam, Like,
I get it, it's a show. You guys have to
bring up the obvious things that are going on. Well, okay,
and that's fine.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
I can respect that.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
It just was a point where I felt like you
just needed to let it go, and you just wouldn't
let it go.
Speaker 5 (03:02):
But what you did not see is I'm not the
one that brought all that up. There was a bunch
of people that brought that up, and we're pulling it
out and I'm like, I was frustrated because I thought
we were done.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
With it because I didn't really see that many other people.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (03:17):
I was not the one that brought it up at
the table. I thought that me and Jen had put
all this behind us, and then I think Gina was
the one maybe throughout the it's really sim and then
and then whatever it is, what it is.
Speaker 6 (03:30):
Or she was making references to you, like saying that
Ryan was hot, or you wanted to take his shirt off,
or that just like something like that.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
It's a hot person because I actually ever thought he
was that hot, Like I mean, you guys made it
seem like that guy was like like everybody in Orange County.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
One way.
Speaker 5 (03:44):
I will tell you when he's okay, he came to
our gym, he would always wear a hat, okay, and
so it covered.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
The I can say that any man and a hat
and sunglasses can appear hot because.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Everything's covered up. You can't actually mean you can't actually.
Speaker 5 (04:03):
Hoses on to we all are.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
The other night we were at No.
Speaker 5 (04:14):
But I will say I don't think he's an I
don't think he's an ugly man.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
No no, no, no, no.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
No no, not a bad looking guy. He's just not
as hot as no.
Speaker 5 (04:23):
He would come to the gym, and he works he's
a he works out hard, and I appreciate somebody that
puts out much time and effort into their body. And
you know, he he was charming actually when he came
to our him.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
Yeah, well I thought I actually like this personality, like
the kind Yeah, I thought it was very likable.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Let's put you on the spot.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Great, let's do it.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
If you had to pick one husband from lis of
Orange County boy.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
To have a tryst with, who would it be?
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Oh my god?
Speaker 3 (04:57):
And don't act like you're above this because we know.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
Okay, Okay, all right, I'm just gonna go with the one.
Her name is Is it Shannon Bador? Is that the
one that's married to the plastic surgeon guy.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Shes Orange County? Okay, I know it's so much trouble.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
I guess I know it's the rich one with him,
and that's like with there's a reason for him.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
What's the reason?
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Well, I can get off free work.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
I'm getting older, I'm about to celebrate my fifty.
Speaker 6 (05:34):
He's a really he's like a nice guy.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
He's a very nice He seems like he completely loves
his wife.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Agree.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
Okay, yeah, I feel like I mean, I've gone through
two marriages and two divorces and I can make it
work with a guy like him.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Hates he hates you. Oh I hope nobody can really
hate you.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
I know, for our husbands to stay married, does they
must really love us?
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Yeah? Heather seems like she has a great life. I
would love to And you know, funny is Hilary funny.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
I wish they didn't dislike me so much so that
I could get to know them.
Speaker 5 (06:08):
Well, I think you were an apology. I. Oh, she
was at Bravokan and she had a few too many
and she I don't even know if you remember.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
This, but when she made I'm sorry, Oh, she.
Speaker 5 (06:20):
Just doubled down with the Instagram story.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
Hold on, I'm going to back up here.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
The reason why I started with Heather du Brow was
because I was having your back. Oh remember when you
guys were having all of your issues, but you guys
were fine at that moment.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
It's always Sammer's fault.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Always.
Speaker 5 (06:44):
I just say, you just just I'm sorry for being
so hard on you.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
Are you going to go and apologize to all?
Speaker 7 (06:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
At Bravo con, I said, let's squash the beef right now,
let's be done with it, and she said sure, and
then she changed her mind.
Speaker 5 (06:57):
Oh, we're not going to be talking about Heather to
bro on my dime.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Okay, Well, I already made Tamra hundred dollars bet that.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
I bet by the end of this season they're going
to have a fight. No, I don't think so. I
totally disagree with that. I know I don't pay on
my bets.
Speaker 5 (07:12):
But she's the same girl that just said, do you
think you and Gina are going to be at odds
at the end of the season.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
I did know with me.
Speaker 7 (07:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
I didn't say do you think you're gonna be at odds?
Speaker 2 (07:21):
I said do you think there's ever anything that she
could do to ever?
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Put?
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Like?
Speaker 3 (07:25):
I feel like I have friendships that I was on
and I was on the show for less than all
of you guys.
Speaker 5 (07:29):
So when is Kyle going to stop talking to you?
Speaker 1 (07:32):
That's my point.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
I don't think there ever will be that point, because
I don't think I will ever cross that line with
her when I crossed that line.
Speaker 5 (07:39):
If you worked with her on the show, do you
think you would cross that line?
Speaker 3 (07:42):
No?
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Never see.
Speaker 6 (07:44):
I agree with that because I feel like you have to.
I feel like I'm the kind of person who actually
wants to be friends with people, and I want to
have real friendships.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
And if you want to have a real friendship, you.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Have to draw a line.
Speaker 6 (07:54):
So if Gina said to me, as a friend, I
want to tell you something. I need your advice, but
please don't ever bring this up on the show. I
would never do it.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
I agree, never.
Speaker 6 (08:05):
Ground and I would get fired over it because at
the end of the day, my personal integrity is worth
more than the show.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
But the fake friendships where they say that they're close
with you, but then once the show ends they never
make any effort to ever talk to you again. They
don't know your personal life, they don't know your kids.
Then it's like, okay, yeah, I probably could easily go
that friendship under the bus because I don't think it's
an authentic friendship.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
Yeah, I mean I agree with it. I mean be clear,
like when you're on a show with six different women.
I mean, I've been off Atlanta for two years now.
Obviously I saw all of those ladies a lot more
when I work with them, because I only teve years.
It feels like it feels like ten people like are
you ready to come back?
Speaker 1 (08:48):
I'm like, hey, you coming back? I just left. Do
you know anything about.
Speaker 5 (08:51):
What's going and you can't say, but do you know
anything that's going on with casting right now?
Speaker 1 (08:55):
I do not know what's going on with There's.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
We heard that Drew so and so who was the
third person and Courtney were all budded. She was.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
I don't know, to be honest with you, but I
don't think that that is entirely true. I don't think
they've made a decision in my opinion, Well, how long
ago they.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Film the reunion? Normally they give contracts right after the reunion.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Having a shakeup me.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
She hasn't heard anything.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
That's what everyone's telling me to the few people that
I've talked to.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Do you think there's a chance for Needi to ever
come back?
Speaker 1 (09:41):
I don't know. I mean I think want to come back.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Yes, I think.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
That in my heart of hearts.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
And we just reconnected and Dubai and well Abbi Dabby
and that was great because like, no matter what, like
that was a real friendship for a really long time.
The will always be there for her and I have
zero interest in just being enemies with Lakes, you know
what I'm saying, especially because we were really really good friends.
(10:09):
And I mean we're not even on the show. I'm
not on the show. She's not on the show. So
it's like, okay, so what what are we over here
griping about? I felt like she was always great on
the show. I came on the show my third season,
season three on the show as Nini's friend, so I
saw how she helped shape that show in so many ways.
(10:29):
But I do believe as someone who's not on the
show anymore, you know, I love when people kind of
go in and out because sometimes you just need a break.
Speaker 5 (10:36):
Well, you know what I'm saying, you're a floating housewife
at this point. You were on Let's just break it down.
We saw you on Beverly Hills.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
Question fo a floating housewife. I was a consistent housewife
Looly as a friend. I never floated.
Speaker 5 (10:50):
No, no, no, no, I'm talking about currently. We saw you're
not on permanent on any housewife show. Well, you come
on Orange County with us.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
I would love to go. You guys are always on both.
Speaker 5 (11:03):
Okay, So I'm thinking, as they traveling nurses, try not
should be a position for certain iconic housewives that just
show up to different parties and different franchises. Yeah, that's
all I'm saying, just to make it, just make an appearance.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
It is so much fun for me after being on eleven,
being on Atlanta for eleven years, to just kind of
pop in and out. I mean, I feel like a
certain sisterhood to all of you guys. Even this is
my first time even meeting you, and I was like,
I fell in love with you just from recapping with Teddy,
But I've never really hung out with you before. Tamra,
I'll only kind of wash you from as far as
Bravo con but I feel like you guys are people.
So yes, I love the idea of just being able
(11:42):
to organically and authentically dentively be in a space with
you guys.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
It's just real.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
So if I'm hanging out in Orange County and you
guys are filming, sure I'll go on the.
Speaker 6 (11:51):
Boat d talk about the boat right pressure, no pressure,
have fun.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
And before we get into our plastic surgery conversation, I.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Do need to ask one additional thing.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Oh God, do you think when it comes to housewive
shows and when they're doing well or when they're not
doing well, do you think that much heat really falls
on the showrunner or it happens because of the relationships
with the women.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
I think the show is all about, at the end
of the day, the relationship with the women. After again,
eleven years, I've seen showrunners come and go, and I've
seen us have amazing seasons with a show a showrunner
who wasn't there great, they just let us do what
we do, which I think is the best way to
let it go.
Speaker 5 (12:36):
Have you not over sh yes, and you felt like
the show still and.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
We still did right because we had a great cast.
Well I think that and we had great stories. Yeah,
great friends.
Speaker 5 (12:47):
But I kind of feel like it's it's everything. I
feel like this is the majority everybody that's working on
it's the talent, it's a production company, it's a showrunner.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
Cast, a great show runner.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
If you have a bad cast.
Speaker 5 (13:03):
But what I have learned in my fourteen years of
filming Housewives, we only have a show runner for two
years and it's somebody new.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
Well, I don't like blaming production and showrunners for a
bad season personally, because, like I said, I've seen us
have you know production that you know they were okay
and an okay showrunner still have a banging ass season.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
Well, how was Carlos King?
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Amazing? Amazing, amazing? So why do you like, can we
just call him? I know it's called Carlos. Oh, I'm
gonna call Okay, let's call Carlos. He just asked us
to do his life and you can ask.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
Him why did it stop? Because I don't know what stopped.
I just know that he was a great showrunner. He
was Carlos was a sure runner. When I first know it.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Was the second season that I came on. I can't remember.
Speaker 6 (13:52):
But how many different showrunners have you had in fourteen years?
Speaker 5 (13:55):
On every two years there's a new one.
Speaker 6 (13:56):
So you've had seven different ones? Yeah, at least, I
mean I've had three different show runners.
Speaker 4 (14:01):
But just for the record, though, before we go into
the call both tox and fillers, I have not completely
closed the door to housewives. Like my answer is always
going to be just not right now. And that's just
the honest truth. Like I did it for a long time,
and I am one hundred percent focused on my acting
career and I just have a lot of other stuff
(14:21):
going on, and I love that I can still get to,
you know, popping in that one.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
I want to.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
As a matter of fact, I'm going to do watch
what Happens Live like in two weeks for like a
show going on script. I still see everybody all the time.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
Who do you think that of the current cast that
you're closest with?
Speaker 4 (14:38):
Oh that's you know what when you brought that up
about like, once you leave a show, who you are
still going to be friends with, who will still take
your call or whatever. I actually wondered about that, like,
once I start working with these ladies, I was like, Okay,
now I'm going to see who really really is my
friend friend and I have to say that everyone of
those ladies on the cast all and you like the
(15:02):
moment I hit down in Atlanta, I'm getting texts like, hey,
are you in Atlanta, Let's go for drinks, let's go
for dinner, and it's all off camera, and I just.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Because need you back? No no, no, no, no no no no.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
In the room right now.
Speaker 5 (15:18):
I have Cynthia Bailey, I have Emily Simpson, and I
have Teddy Joe right there.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Carlos down, hold on, you have to put in.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
I feel like your phone is dirty.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
You need to say, Carlos, all right, talk loudly and
don't move around.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
Okay, can you hear uside?
Speaker 7 (15:40):
Can you hear me?
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Yeah, we can hear you.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
We just had a quick question because we were just
talking about how important showrunners are for these Real Housewives shows.
If you can still have a good show without a
good show runner, blah, blah blah, and and Cynthia said, yes,
you can still have a good show if you have
a great cast.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
However, Carlos King was the best of.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
The best, the King, but nobody did it better.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
But it's so sure that Carlos.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
You know, I'm always going to give you your flowers,
and I always appreciate when you give them back.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Okay, but my question for you is why did you
leave Atlanta?
Speaker 7 (16:21):
Oh? Simply put two reasons. One, I was there for
like eight nine years, and I felt like I've done
everything I could with that show, and Cynthia can attest
to that.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
Amen.
Speaker 7 (16:33):
And I wanted to like expand and start my own
production company. So I moved to Los Angeles afterwards because
I felt that there's nothing more I could do and
I had to move on.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Do you miss it, like when you see it struggling
like this past season, Jesus, Like when you see that happening,
you're like, say that you're in a safe space, just
us and our million closest friends.
Speaker 7 (17:05):
I know, I know the number one podcast or a
TV film, Go ahead, sister.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
But do you when you watch it, are you like shit?
If that was me, I would do blah blah blah.
And my last question for you is what would you
do right now to save Atlanta.
Speaker 7 (17:20):
Well, I think they would have to bring a brink
truck for that answer, so I can't give that away
for a free but I will say this as Cynthia
I wanted to agree with me. When I look at Atlanta,
it's easy to fix. And that's and that's the crazy part.
When I look at it, I think it's so simple,
(17:44):
authentic friendships.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Who are you gonna fire? Well, you know when they ask.
Speaker 7 (17:48):
Me these questions from Patty Honey to me, to me,
to me, to me to me, there's too many politics involved,
and that's that's the issue.
Speaker 4 (18:02):
Well, when they asked me that question, Carlos, I said
that because I don't like what's happening now with everything
being the fault of the showrunner or production, Like, I
don't like it falling and the blame going to them entirely,
because I don't think that's necessarily true.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
When you were show.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
Running Atlanta for many, many years, which was amazing, amazing,
no matter what was going on, the cast was what.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Really helped keep that show together.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
If you had the right cast, no matter what was
going on, we had a good show, true or not true.
Speaker 7 (18:33):
I will always say this, it's a collaborative effort, right,
I say, I agree.
Speaker 4 (18:37):
But Carlos, you can have a great production team and
a great showrunner. If you don't have the right cast,
you're not going to have a good show.
Speaker 7 (18:44):
So I left to do another show because I was
figed in my production company. I was bad to come
back season eight to fix it because the showrunner who
they hired just wasn't doing a good job. And Cynthia
knows this. When I came back, we foilnd Cynthia's party,
and that's when Chara almost threw a drink at Kenya.
(19:05):
Because at the end of the day, it's a collaborative effort.
So here I am. I'm inheriting the cast already, but
nothing was happening. When I came in.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Everything started to happen because they had a relationship with
you and they trust you.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
But my last question is if you had.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
To boot to and bring two new people in, who
would it be.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
It could be past people.
Speaker 7 (19:31):
I'm not gonna say boots.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Fine, let's not say boot Let's say demote them to friends.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
Let's just say fire.
Speaker 7 (19:39):
I'll say this, I'll say this. I'll say this. I'll
say this. I'll say this. The only thing I will
say is the best cast in the world. In the
world was.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Season six And you're gonna say that.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
So season six was Cynthia, charae Nini Portia, Sedra can
Kenya Phaedra Am I missing anymore the best and.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
I think Marlo's was that was that? It Carlos Yeah,
and Marlow is a friend.
Speaker 7 (20:12):
Yeah, was perfect.
Speaker 5 (20:23):
Oh hold on, hold on, Carlos, hold on, hold on,
we have her right now, we have get in here.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
Sit your ass down. You get over her.
Speaker 5 (20:34):
Ji k we have one of the biggest housewife producer.
Speaker 8 (20:40):
Damn.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Sit down.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
Oh you're in the hot seat right now.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
You didn't even get to like warm up.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
Guy.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Oh this guy?
Speaker 5 (20:48):
Okay, So this is Carlos can Hi, Carlos.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
I love you, I think.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Okay.
Speaker 8 (20:57):
Happy to answer that I didn't been against anyone. I'm
going off my personal experience coming on the show with
this woman thinking that she wanted to be my friend.
First week of filming, she starts going around to each
of the women. She starts talking about me, saying, my
marriage is fake. Thank you. It's arranged that I'm a fraud,
(21:19):
that I'm in the fucking organized crime, that I launder money,
that my businesses are fake, that I'm bankrupt and broke.
So all these things in week one of filming, all
behind my back, all on camera, saying she doesn't like me.
So now all this comes back to me. So the
reunion is my opportunity to call her out, hold her
(21:39):
accountable for saying all these things. I'm a loyal friend,
and I came to the show to be myself, which
is be loyal. She did a lot of damage to
me personally, saying that my husband's basically like deceptive, leading
two lives, and that my marriage is arranged. So I'm
not banning against any one. I'm speaking on my personal experience.
(22:02):
Don't worry. We're gonna change your mind by the end
of this weekend. Oh god, what do you guys gonna do?
You're gonna have to buy me. Would you admit? Would
you admit?
Speaker 7 (22:13):
Would you admit that she brought eyeballs to the show
courtesy of the dynamic?
Speaker 8 (22:20):
Okay, I can admit that one season for entertainment purposes
and shock value, she has now lost trust of all
the viewers. She well ninety nine point nine percent. She
has lost trust of all the ladies. So next season,
when she comes back and says, hey, Carlos, I heard
your boyfriend is bending over some other guy in his office.
Are you gonna look at her and say to you?
(22:41):
Who's gonna believe a word? She says, right, who's gonna
believe anything she says about the cast? Anything she says?
She's She's lied. She's been exposed for being a liar
and a trolled. She has zero credibility. How do you
come back? How do you have another redo? It's over?
In my opinion, Yes, has the.
Speaker 7 (23:00):
Ability line on producers and they gave.
Speaker 8 (23:02):
Her the black eye? Okay, okay, do you want are
you do you want to ask you a question? Do
you want me to?
Speaker 7 (23:06):
Yeah? Yeah? Why is it? Why are you ladies upset
with Monica not saying you shouldn't be, but you don't
have that same any different to me had They're more
dangerous because the production had to do an investigation due
to Heather lying on production saying they could have an
at the footage?
Speaker 2 (23:25):
Hit the footage?
Speaker 7 (23:25):
Could they have given her the black eye? All the while?
Jen did it?
Speaker 8 (23:29):
Okay, go ahead? Have you ever met Jenshaw. No, okay,
she is a woman that can walk in the room.
She's charismatic. Everyone loves her, from the ninety year old
to the librarian, to the dentist to the d.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
I didn't like her. I nine year olds loved jin
No she no year old people she didn't.
Speaker 8 (23:50):
But listen, like, I have been with this woman and
she's charismatic. She she had redeeming qualities right and until
she pled guilty, we had to believe her right. So
I have been in Heather's position at times with jen
where there's a reason she was swindling people out of money.
(24:11):
She is good at what she does. Like we were
in love with a woman, you know.
Speaker 7 (24:16):
But Angie, this is the thing, though, Angie, I understand that.
My thing is you, Colion say you don't remember.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Why would you?
Speaker 7 (24:25):
Why would you lie and incriminate production who make minimum wage?
They leave their family at home?
Speaker 8 (24:32):
My agent to go to Salt Lake City.
Speaker 7 (24:34):
Heather is Diabola calls she's a troublemaker. I'm more afraid
of Heather than Monica.
Speaker 8 (24:41):
Okay, okay, let me answer that. In my personal experience
with both of them. Heather she uses her humor and
she admits that she used in the wrong way, like,
oh well, maybe it's production. She was scirty around the issues.
She admitted she should not have said that she was
terrified and we've all been everything about it.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
You got in jail.
Speaker 8 (25:05):
Jen was already on the show for three years. This
is different than Monica. Okay, because Jen was already on
the show for three years. The women were stuck with her.
There was no getting rid of her. It was like
it was like a cast member or someone you work
with that you just had to figure out the best
way around staying on the show with this person and
dealing with them. Okay, there was a lot of let
(25:25):
me ask a question.
Speaker 6 (25:26):
Yeah, if she was really terrified of Jen, we all were.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Yeah, But why wouldn't you.
Speaker 6 (25:31):
Go to production and say, I'm terrified of this woman.
She gave me a black eye.
Speaker 8 (25:37):
I think it's because she wasn't you Wait, I'm gonna
say one last thing, Heather. Heather blacks out when she drinks,
and I don't think she really fully knew what the
hell happened. She apologized. Matthew did not.
Speaker 7 (25:48):
Continue with the lie. Heather is duplicit it. She continue
with the lie to sell books. She's not a bad morment,
she's a bad person.
Speaker 8 (25:57):
Okay, wait, I will say one. I will say one
last thing. That Heather had regrets and apologized Monica did
not right, there would have been some redemption for Monica potential.
Speaker 7 (26:07):
Well, I will say this, Angie. I love you. By
the way I said you are comedy relief. I do
call you hurricane Angie because because you're like the forecast
with the wind. But I will say this. I will
say this. Yes, there was once a show called The
Real Housewives of Dallas. The show got canceled when somebody
(26:29):
was gone. There was a show called The Real house
Wives of oc and Emily, Yes, you can attest to this.
When was gone, it wasn't great.
Speaker 6 (26:41):
No, I agree with that.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
So Angie, K.
Speaker 7 (26:44):
Look at me girl and your and your expensive sunglasses.
Speaker 8 (26:48):
This is just because I've known.
Speaker 7 (26:49):
All I'm going to say is this, You guys are
the talk of the town, just like Danielle Style did
to New Jersey. At the end of the day, you
always have to do what hammer judge does you put
on your producer, Hannah, You say, I may feel this way,
but what is best for the show. And at the
end of the day I would have done this. Bring
(27:12):
this bitch back so we can we can get we
can get at her some more.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
Maybe you will continue on.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
Left.
Speaker 4 (27:24):
Okay, Oh, don't drag me into this man.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Okay, guys, I know that that we got a lot.
Thank you so much, Carlos King. We got a whoa
and pop in another bottle. But we do have to
wrap this episode. But we will bring an Angie K
officially and not have Carlos King solely grill her. We
will all do it. So please make sure to tune
(27:53):
in to the next episode, where Angie will be giving
us all her hot takes. But I'm also gonna put
Angie up to a task.
Speaker 8 (28:00):
Yes, ma'am.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
In your response, you cannot use more than twelve words.
Speaker 8 (28:05):
I know, I'll land the plane. I'll keep it.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
That's the rule. If you can do it in twelve words,
we'll believe you.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
All right, tune in, guys, thanks for joining us.
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