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July 9, 2025 39 mins

Kristen & Luke get engaged… but there was trouble in paradise. 

Kristen almost threw Janet off of a boat. Was her anger justified?!

And, we think someone on the cast is still in love with their ex-wife.

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Two Teas in a Pod. It's Teddy Mellencamp and camera Judge.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
Hi, guys, welcome to another episode of Two Teas and
a Pod with myself, Teddy Mellencamp and Cambra Judge. Good morning, Teddy,
Good morning sunshine. You're in New York.

Speaker 1 (00:19):
I'm in New York. What a night day we had yesterday.
So we decided to fly out of San Diego and
not deal with the.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
Of it all.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
Hey, because it's pretty smooth selling go to San Diego
at that time. And we got there and we're like, yes,
we could get there just in time. We're gonna jump
on the plane. Oh no, delay delay, delay delay, No
like that. It's raining here. Well it's not at the moment,
but there's been, you know, across the world, there's been
these horrible thunderstorms.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
These floods.

Speaker 1 (00:48):
And finally get on. I met a couple of really
nice people fans next to the seat on the other aisle. Yeah,
and so had fun chatting with them. And then we
have like thirty minutes before we land and they're like, sorry, guys,
we can't land. We have to circle for the next hour. No,

(01:11):
we have enough gas or fuel or what do they
call it, and so we're like, okay, great whatever. So
I go back and sit on my seat. I was
talking to my friends next to me and circle and circle,
and they're like, update, if we can't land soon, we're
going to run out of fuel, so we're gonna have
to land at a different airport. No, at this point,

(01:33):
we're getting in at eleven o'clock at night now. So
we ended up getting there. We were safe, it wasn't
too bumpy, which is great. And I got to the
hotel and Eddie slept most of the flight because he
didn't sleep the night before because he wasn't feeling too great.
And I got back and fell asleep at like one
in the morning and got up at ten.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
Well you know what, that's what you get for trying
to make things easier.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
I know.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
Well, I figure, you know, every time what.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
Happens live, you usually go the night before and then
you don't get in and then you have to adjust
to the three hours. And you know, you and I
were in bed by eight o'clock. Yeah, so I thought, well, well,
let's go in day early instead of we always like
to extend it by one day instead of going the
day you know, extended the following day. Well, I think
it's good. We're going to go to dinner with Margaret

(02:20):
and Joseph tonight, Margaret and Joseph.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
Margaret and Joseph.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
Margaret and Joe tomorrow or tonight tonight, So that's going
to be fine.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
And then you have watched What Happens Live tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
I have press pretty much all day tomorrow, and then
watch What Happens Love, and then we get on the
plane and come right home the next morning.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
Oh gosh, we'll tell Andy, I said, Hi.

Speaker 1 (02:42):
I will, I will. I'm sure for some reason your
name will be brought up. I'm sure.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
Oh, for some reason. I just had to recap Orange
County and I asked Erica, I go, can you do
me a favor? Can you please call me your little
teapop from now on?

Speaker 1 (02:55):
And she was like, no, is that what I called you?

Speaker 2 (03:00):
My little tea pot?

Speaker 1 (03:02):
I watch it a while ago, so I really need
to rewatch it tonight to see because sometimes there's changes
that are made and all that stuff. Yeah, I'm gonna
watch it tonight. Eddie hasn't seen it at all. I'm
sure he's gonna be absolutely thrilled with my crush on
you know who.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
Oh I didn't even talk about that. I didn't even care,
and I didn't even I couldn't even picture the whole situation.
I was too stuck on wearing a bikini to get married.

Speaker 1 (03:29):
Oh, I well, any excuse, just got to check out
her instagram? An excuse.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
I'm about to put on myikini now, right now, and
I'm going to go to immune therapy and myikini.

Speaker 1 (03:39):
Oh do you have immuno therapy today? I do? I do?

Speaker 2 (03:43):
Oh my gosh. Well, speaking of travel, I guess we
got to get into The Valley season two, episode twelve
and thirteen recap. It starts where everybody meets for dinner
in Hawaii. Michelle claims that Jesse's only gotten worse than
third divorce. Then Jesse asks Aaron to stay and talk.
Aaron says he and Michelle never crossed a line while

(04:05):
she was still married. But like, why does Aaron oys?

Speaker 1 (04:08):
He smells different? You see his face, He's like, first
of all, his eyes are huge. I don't know who
has bigger eyeballs him or Jody. Like his face says
it all, Like, no, no, we didn't cross any line.
I mean we had a few texts, and I invited
her to try my honey.

Speaker 2 (04:28):
Like, no, nothing weird happened. I just invited her to
come over and try my honey over at Runyon Canyon.
And then we just always bumped into each other all
the time.

Speaker 1 (04:37):
We just bumped uglies and didn't even know why.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
We didn't even know what happened. And then we were
both having orgasms. It was weird, yep.

Speaker 1 (04:46):
And then we slipped.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
We tripped and slipped right into each other.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
Yeah, we tripped and slipped on the canyon hike. And
what do you know? Now we're together two weeks after
you and your husband split.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
Oh, but Jesse wanted to make it very clear that
they were still sharing a bed.

Speaker 1 (05:06):
Oh yes, Yeah, I don't blame him. He'd be like, hey,
he's you know, but it seems like Jesse is trying.

Speaker 2 (05:12):
Yeah, I mean he's not. I mean he's trying more
than he was before. I mean, I think you kind
of he kind of can't help himself that. I think
he's still in love with her.

Speaker 1 (05:22):
Of course, it's a mother of his child, even if
he called her a prostitute.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
For those of you guys listening, the reason we're recapping
two episodes is because last week was the holiday.

Speaker 1 (05:34):
So God, it was nice.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
It was nice, and you were gone. But now we're
back and it's proposal day.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
It's proposal day. Can I ask you a question, what,
out of all the beautiful places in Hawaii, all of
them handle it like dinner on the beach. Would you
want to be proposed to on a fishing boat?

Speaker 2 (05:59):
No? But I don't want to be proposed to it all.

Speaker 1 (06:02):
I mean, I'm like, of all the things. It kind
of reminds me of when Eddie proposed to me and
Bora Bora, and I knew it was coming. I just
knew it was coming right because he had it planned
way before we even started filming. It was already paid for,
a planned everything. And then production last minute after we
stopped filming, filming was over, Eddie's like, oh, production wants

(06:23):
to go with us, and I'm like, oh, something's up,
Something's up. Something. We had all these romantic dinners with
cheeky you know, torches all around us and my kids happening.
It's in the drink, it's somewhere. Nope, he waits till
I go snorkeling. No, he waited until you or what

(06:44):
And producers are like, Hey, would you like to put
some makeup on? I'm like, no, Dyl, You'll never show this.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
What about the fact that she had to be convinced
into getting the shower. That would have been the giveaway.
If my significant other was like, take a shower, Take
a shower, Take a shower before we get on the boat,
I've been like, my ass is getting proposed to. I
need to get put on a full blown gown.

Speaker 1 (07:03):
Right Well, Eddie would have been just like, oh care,
I don't wear any makeup? Who cares?

Speaker 2 (07:08):
Who cares? This is about to be on the cover
of People magazine, But don't you worry. But you know,
we get a lot of flashbacks of Luke's meltdown. They
called it a meltdown, not me. I was like, that's
just me on a Thursday.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
Tony's like, what is he doing? Is that normal for
guys to have full blown melt If you're having a
full blown meltdown, I would be a little afraid, like,
are you sure this is what you want to do?

Speaker 2 (07:31):
Buy? But if I was having to get married, if
I was going to have to get proposed to with
this group of people, these tight friends, I'd probably be
having a meltdown too.

Speaker 1 (07:40):
Well, I will say he's he is really seems like
a very stand up guy. He seems very sweet, very kind.
Maybe he was just so nervous was he on?

Speaker 2 (07:51):
He was on last year too, right, he was on
last year too. But also remember he was like someone
in his family. It was really sick at the time.

Speaker 1 (07:58):
Yeah, well, I didn't think he was one of those
guys on the show, like he's very much a eddie Like,
he doesn't he doesn't have little dick energy. He doesn't like,
oh look at me and this and that and you know,
trying to be the center of attention. But then at
the end of the second episode, I second guess that

(08:21):
with the outfit choice.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
Yeah me too, I did too. But Kristin and Luke
they go back to the room to try to be
forced to shower, and then Nia is sending enspo picks.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
That's do you think Kristin knew?

Speaker 2 (08:40):
I mean, she would have to be a very good
actor if she knew.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
Okay, well, we'll get to the reason why I think
she could have possibly known.

Speaker 2 (08:49):
Okay, Well, I love Kristen's commitment to not giving one
single that cameras are on her just letting her boobs
hang out, talking about her pit stinking, no worries in
the world. Wait, who did that, Kristin? Oh, not a
care in the world at Brittany, I'm like, I missed that, Kristin.

Speaker 1 (09:12):
You know, Like, what makes Kristen so good is she
just doesn't give a shit. She is who she is.
She doesn't care. Slitza hangs out, her boobs are flopping out,
her hair is in a topnot like.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
Don't care, and she still looks pretty.

Speaker 1 (09:26):
I would like to see more she is. She's beautiful.
I'd like to see more housewives be like that, including myself.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
You're like, hold on, before I go to glam, before
I have dinner tonight. I would like more people to
just be a natural app.

Speaker 1 (09:40):
Yeah, this is what it would be like, Chelsea, can
you make my makeup look like I don't have makeup
on so I look like I don't care.

Speaker 2 (09:47):
Yeah, I believe me. I do that often, but I
didn't do it today, and I'm like bright red, I'm like, oh, whatever,
I can't I can't be dealing. So while all this
is going down, we get a little flash to Jack's

(10:09):
in Los Angeles, playing in the pool tossing Cruise around.
He was worried his son wouldn't remember him. Why did
he wait eight days to see his son after he
got a treatment.

Speaker 1 (10:21):
That he's so worried. I think at first I thought,
is he not allowed to travel? Because Jacks is not
going to miss an opportunity, especially after being away for
thirty days, to be in the mix. Are we done
with Hawaii or do you think Jack's going to show
up to Hawaii?

Speaker 2 (10:35):
Well? No, I mean we have the next episode that
we're going to talk about in Hawaiian and there's no
Jacks there.

Speaker 1 (10:41):
Oh. I thought for sure he would show up. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
I mean if he thought he could bring Cruise and
they could do it and he could pretend you're just
randomly there on a vacation, I'm sure he'd be there.

Speaker 1 (10:55):
Yeah. Well, it was like weird that he was so
worried that Cruz wouldn't remember him, but he was out
for over a week. Supposedly that's how Editing made it sound.
To even see his son.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
Well, it gave me a jump scare when he flung
him in the pool.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
Can swim, He.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
Can swim good. But you know those like you see
him on YouTube where like they throw up the kids
and then they like swim back over. I was like,
holy shit.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
You know when they like throw newborns in, they're like,
oh no, don't worry, just just wait, help figure it out.
And he flips over. I'm like, holy shit.

Speaker 2 (11:30):
I know. I was like, Dove, step up your game, like,
I don't think she could handle that kind of.

Speaker 1 (11:34):
Throwing Spencer to swimming class lessons like at four, and
you know they do a little crab crawl around the pool. Yeah,
at the top of his lungs. I don't want to
do this.

Speaker 2 (11:44):
Yeah, no, they have to.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
Like I should have thrown you in the pool when
you were first born.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
You should have flung him in, flipped them over and
see what happened. They were all like that, I'm gonna
start doing that to you. Whenever I see you, just
flip you into the pool and see what happens.

Speaker 1 (11:59):
I'll do the crab walk.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
I don't like.

Speaker 1 (12:02):
I don't like that.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
Then after we do that, we get Luke, Kristin, Danny,
and Nia on the fishing boat, which at this point,
if she can't tell, with Nia's nervous energy on trying
to get the perfect photo, I don't know how she
could have missed it. They made her put glam on
on the fishing boat, I know.

Speaker 1 (12:23):
And were they trying to throw him off by not
everybody being on the fishing boat, Like why wasn't everybody there.

Speaker 2 (12:30):
Because everybody is fighting?

Speaker 1 (12:32):
Why was it a fishing boat? I am so bugged
that it's a fishing boat? Like did they think like
if o? Because they needed people to put together the
room and all that whether out on.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
The fishing boat couldn't well, then they would have had
to just leave out Janet and a couple other people,
and then I think that would have caused more drama
before it got to the drama that they needed later on.

Speaker 1 (12:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
But back at the hotel, Zach and Benji move Kristen
and Luke's things into the presidential suite. Zach realized he
has to tell Jesse about the proposal since they'll I'll
be sharing a suite. Jesse tries to get five thousand
flower pedals to the room, but then they point out
that he's allegedly broke.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
Nowhere was there five thousand petals on the bed and no,
five thousand petals would be.

Speaker 2 (13:19):
Like in the right number.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
He's going to be carrying five thousand pedals, and who's
going to count them?

Speaker 2 (13:24):
Hold on, last minute, let me just pull off five
thousand pedals. How long would that take?

Speaker 1 (13:28):
Five thousand days?

Speaker 2 (13:33):
Well, they set this up. Zach is as nervous as
it's his own wedding.

Speaker 1 (13:38):
I know, I have really grown to like Zach. I know,
I feel like he fits in. He's funny, he's very
smart too. His one liners are pretty good.

Speaker 2 (13:48):
Well, I like his one liners in real life. His
one liners and confessionals feel a little rehearsed to me.

Speaker 1 (13:54):
Well, sometimes you got to rehearse them, Teddy.

Speaker 2 (13:56):
Yeah, I know, But sometimes I don't want to see it. Okay,
sometimes I want it to just feel natural.

Speaker 1 (14:03):
Some girls get shit fed to them in the confessionals.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
Yeah that's true, that's true. This is the true story.
But then we see that Britney's all excited, but she's
a little bit salty that she's not going to be
there for it. I don't know that I would be salty.

Speaker 1 (14:23):
Brittany bugged me this episode. I know she bugged me.

Speaker 2 (14:28):
I'm not gonna well, I think she bugged me more
than next episode once I find out what she did
after this. But when she threatens too, so they get back,
they all put on their their matching shirts. Janet's not
there because Janet calls and says that she thinks it's
best that she doesn't attend. However, then she tries to
say to her husband. She tries to gaslight her own

(14:49):
husband and say, since we were disinvited, and he's like, no,
we weren't.

Speaker 1 (14:52):
You see, that's not what happened. We invited. Janna bring it.
Being so upset won't go, Like, Janet, I'm rooting for you.
I've had multiple conversations with you over DM and you know,
I have compassion and I know that she's going through
a lot with the way social media is treating her,
which I'm totally one hundred percent against. But you're not

(15:15):
helping yourself, sweetie. You're not helping yourself. Like you could
have just went and put a smile on. You didn't
have to wear the shirt, but you know what if
you did, it was like an olive.

Speaker 2 (15:26):
Branch and show up with like a drink or some
flowers and just like congratulations and then leave.

Speaker 1 (15:32):
But I feel like she was making about herself a
little bit, and I understand there's bad blood. Would I
want to go to a certain cast member's proposal. Well,
the bitch went to my wedding, so maybe I would maybe.

Speaker 2 (15:47):
But then Brittany made it worse because then Brittany said
that she was gonna leave if Nia and Danny didn't
get there soon. Why are they also jealous of Danny
and Nia?

Speaker 1 (16:01):
I don't know really, I personally think Neo was.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
Just taking longer to get ready. She is a beauty queen.

Speaker 1 (16:06):
She is a beautiful girl, absolutely beautiful. What I also
didn't like is not only did she say we're not
going to this dinner, but we're we're we're not going
to hang out with them tomorrow either.

Speaker 2 (16:19):
Oh I know.

Speaker 1 (16:20):
Then she like doubled down on it, and I'm like,
come on now, you're just being petty about it, Janet.

Speaker 2 (16:27):
Yeah girl, And then she's threatening to leave the island.
And then like Kristin, Kristin does look very happy when
they come in and she sees all the shirts and
she's happy. We get to see a moment of happiness.

Speaker 1 (16:41):
That would have been a great like icebreaker, you know,
they showed up. Like the one thing about being on
reality TV, like it's about conflict and resolution, Like, okay,
we have the same complict if she would just shown
up with the shirt on and be like, we are
so happy for you. Everybody deserves happiness, even though I
hate you, and then it would have been like, Okay,

(17:02):
we can move forward.

Speaker 2 (17:04):
Janet, I don't think is doing any of this for
personal reasons. I think she's doing all of this because
she just wants to create drama.

Speaker 1 (17:14):
Okay. I wonder because you know, I'm first one to
admit that I get blamed for doing a lot of
things on the show. You know, oh what an asshole,
and I have I have done things just for the
drama point of it, just to kind of move storyline,
not just doing more. Well, not right now because I'm

(17:34):
not filming, but you know what, when you are the
villain on the show, you know, sometimes you do things
and you get used to doing things to make good
TV and doesn't always land. Well.

Speaker 2 (17:49):
Yeah, I think the hard part I have with Janet
she doesn't really seem fun or funny ever to me.

Speaker 1 (17:55):
Yeah, she needs more balance, and I don't know if
that is editing. I don't know, because I know there's
been times where I've been funny and outgoing and you know,
had cute moments of people, but all they showed was
you know.

Speaker 2 (18:08):
Me and gnarly parts.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
Yeah, me just lightening people up like last year. Last
year was like that.

Speaker 2 (18:14):
Yeah. Well, they kind of finish up this little engagement
dinner where they're they at this moment. Everybody's kind of
keeping it together, other than Britney threatening to leave, which
I thought was a deva moment, But then everyone else
is having champagne. Brittany's just having straight alcohol.

Speaker 1 (18:33):
I am concerned about her.

Speaker 2 (18:35):
I'm concerned with what happens in the next episode. So
make sure you guys keep listening because in a second
we'll start the recap for episode thirteen of The Valley.
So we're back. We are here to talk about episode
thirteen of The Valley. After a preview of the boat

(18:57):
ride from Hell, everyone meets downstairs for the private engagement dinner.
Michelle and Brittany think it's rude that Janet wasn't invited.
Danny and Nia show up late. Danny's upset that people
are talking badly about him. When did Danny show up
and was he tipsy? I don't recall, honestly, because she's

(19:18):
always telling him what he needs to say and what
he needs to do. But I guess that's being a
wife and a husband.

Speaker 1 (19:25):
That's when you're like, my husband can sometimes be a dick.
So I'm gonna go ahead and tell him they were
insinuating that Danny was napping because he was drunk. You
know what, show me Danny drunk, because I'm tired of
hearing about Danny being drunk but not actually seeing it,
and it should be a rule if it's not happening

(19:45):
on social media or if there's no news outlet catching
him doing it. It's kind of like, yeah, everybody on
the Damn Show is drunk. Every time Brittany pops into
a room, she's like shots, shots, shots, you know.

Speaker 2 (19:59):
So I just, well, Brittany, you were in the room
when Janet decided not to go to dinner, so why
are you acting surprised that she's not going and trying
to pretend that she was not invited? But then the
next morning, oh, this is where it gets bad. So
then the night ends, everybody seems thankfully Kristen knows that

(20:20):
it's time for her to go back to her room.
There's like some awkward moments because there's like twenty five
people crammed into the couch room either way. The next
morning they get up. The one thing that Kristin said
I would say at least five times was please do
not tell anyone I know.

Speaker 1 (20:41):
I know, well, I think Brittany was drunk. I think that,
you know, every time we're here, she's kind of have
a drink in her hand, and I'm not not but
I think that she probably had too much to drink.
And she went back and she was talking to Jack's
which is weird because all she does has put him
down and wants nothing to do with him. But now

(21:03):
all of a sudden, Jax knows and Brittany's like, oh,
I just hadn't talked to him about Cruz.

Speaker 2 (21:08):
I'm know you didn't in the middle of the night
when you I'm.

Speaker 1 (21:11):
Pretty sure you wouldn't text him about it, Like the
way it doesn't add up, the way she talks about him,
the way she doesn't want anything to do with him,
you know, all the things she says, and then she oh,
I accidentally like I.

Speaker 2 (21:24):
Would appreciate it more if she just said like because
she says that a little bit, She's like, he was
my person for a long time, so you know, I
still talk to him, but I would appreciate if sometime
in the scenes when she's talking about Jack she's like, guys,
like just can't get over him, because then at least
it would all kind of make sense.

Speaker 1 (21:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (21:42):
Do you think that Brittany told Jax because she was
pissed about not getting invited on the on the boat?
Or do you think she told Jax because she just
they're that much in communication.

Speaker 1 (21:55):
I don't know, because her actions don't match her word,
and if she's really talking to him like this, I'm
gonna be like, hmm, you're staying totally different. I think it.
We'll find out at the reunion.

Speaker 2 (22:09):
Yeah, I think we'll find out too, because it's now
it's starting to get a little rough. Then Kristin and
Brittany sit down to talk. Britney feels horrible about spilling
the news to Jack's Kristin takes it pretty well because
like none of her family knew she and like, I
could see why Kristin would be upset. She told everybody,
none of our family knows. We want to share this
with our people. And then you tell Freakin Jackson. We

(22:32):
watch him tell Freakin Schwartz.

Speaker 1 (22:36):
It's just so nasty to do that. It's like going
to a wedding and taking pictures of the bride and
putting it on social media before the bride or groom
posts anything like just.

Speaker 2 (22:48):
Just let her enjoy her nine am white claw in
bed in peace.

Speaker 1 (22:52):
Oh God. I think I was a little confused with
when he did propose to her. Not once did she
look at the ring. Not one time did.

Speaker 2 (23:04):
She was more excited about the dolphins.

Speaker 1 (23:06):
She was like, what dolphins? Oh, oh whale? What is that?
And he's like, over here, Ben, here, turn the will
you marry me? Not one time did she look at
that ring.

Speaker 2 (23:17):
Well, either she's seen the ring or she says she
doesn't like all that like personalized attention, and there are
people like that that when they want to see what
it is.

Speaker 1 (23:27):
At least you want to be like, I mean, the
first thing, get the ring and you know, and just go,
oh my god, and then do your thing. Should not
do that at all. So that made me believe.

Speaker 2 (23:36):
Hmm, maybe she really not give a shit.

Speaker 1 (23:39):
About materialistic things. Or did she already see the ring
and she knew this was coming.

Speaker 2 (23:44):
Maybe she picked the ring. I mean, they got it
from the same guy that everybody else from the valley
and vander Pump rules gets the rings from.

Speaker 1 (23:52):
Yeah, maybe that's it.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
Maybe it was already on social medias.

Speaker 1 (23:56):
I don't know. It just it just felt odd to me.
I mean it's beautiful and you would least glance at it.

Speaker 2 (24:02):
Yeah, But then they get down to talk about all
of the stuff that happened at al Coyote and wishes
Brittany had stood up for her more. Kristen says that
Janet started out as a fan of Vanner pump Rolls
and they met her through Sena. What are your thoughts
on when they start calling cast members fans because they
started out as not really knowing the Google people.

Speaker 1 (24:24):
Here's the thing. Bravo shows are so big at this point,
there's not many people that don't watch, so there is
a lot of fans, but it depends on what level.
If you're that fan that tries so hard to do
whatever to get in and you're going to their bars
and you're trying to befriend them and all that, you're

(24:44):
a super fan. Yeah, you're a superman. And those are
the ones that usually don't work.

Speaker 2 (24:49):
Out, and that's what makes sense for Janet. But before this,
everyone including Janet and Jason, at this time are deciding
they're going to have a boat data in the trip.
This is where things get a little stressful. Luke is
in a tiny sailor outfit that's accentuating his moose knuckle,

(25:11):
which the.

Speaker 1 (25:11):
Fact, why explain to me why I.

Speaker 2 (25:16):
Can't not explain certain things camera?

Speaker 1 (25:18):
At first I thought it was Aaron. I get those
two confused sometimes and I see them in a distance.

Speaker 2 (25:24):
Oh my gosh, Erin is a lot for me to handle.
But know what, we never hear peep from Benji. No,
sweet Bengi, Sweet Benji. We haven't heard of peep from you.
But I need to know who was behind the camera
like filming the moose knuckle because it was a close up.

(25:44):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (25:45):
I don't know who their crew members are. But I
have a question. Does Aaron ever blink?

Speaker 2 (25:50):
Never? Once? Never? Once? Had Michelle's really into him? She
always is telling us how hot he is.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
They're so in love, and I'm happy for them. I'm
very happy. I just won't know if he blinks.

Speaker 2 (26:04):
I want to know if he knows that having his
eyes open that wide makes it seem like he's lying.

Speaker 1 (26:11):
I don't know. I mean, obviously it's just him it's
like Jody. He has big eyes too.

Speaker 2 (26:16):
But Jody doesn't always Jody like if his eyes like
catch something or he's looking at something like.

Speaker 1 (26:22):
Like startled like or mad, his eyes get big.

Speaker 2 (26:25):
Yeah. But then they get into talking about how set
they are that you know, they brought around the girl
that's was with Aaron and dah da da da dad, and.

Speaker 1 (26:36):
Then they strategic and I think that that is like, hey, producers,
I have a friend that you said date, I'm.

Speaker 2 (26:41):
Bring her on, bring it on, they want it.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
I think it fell flat. I don't think it really
made that big of an impact having her on the show.

Speaker 2 (26:49):
Yeah, And it's not like they just brought her in.
She was on Vani Pump Rules as well. Oh I
didn't know that in the background, like she's always around,
she's the friend she invites.

Speaker 1 (26:58):
Oh okay, well then that makes total sense.

Speaker 2 (27:01):
Yeah. And once again it was Janet being the one
to bring it up, bring up who she was?

Speaker 1 (27:10):
Ah really but Yeahstin in a flashback going something like, oh, Aaron,
I know a girl that you that you know, you
know Jenna, And He's like, so I thought that she
was behind it?

Speaker 2 (27:25):
No, I mean I think she might have been behind
bringing her around because it's one of her best friends.
But I think in this instant it was Janet who
really pushed it home. But then they're talking to Michelle
and Jerre.

Speaker 1 (27:40):
You guys love her, hater she she she's pushing things
and if it wasn't for her, would the show be
that more? Would it be exciting?

Speaker 2 (27:49):
I don't know. It started to feel to me like
it wasn't even like she's not even part of the friendship,
like she hates everybody.

Speaker 1 (27:57):
I just Jannet, We just need to see you laugh
and smile and engage a little bit more, or.

Speaker 2 (28:01):
Even just do that with your husband.

Speaker 1 (28:03):
Yeah, she's got a great husband.

Speaker 2 (28:05):
Yeah, we like him. But Michelle and Janet are talking
on the boat. Michelle's sick of hearing about Jenna and
seeing her constantly when she says she never did before,
and she says Zach implied that Sena and Janet were
the ones actually bringing Jenna's name and bringing it up
as a thing. Janet calls Zach over to talk to them,
and you know what, he's smart. He brings Kristin. Yeah, like,

(28:26):
I'm not going over there without Kristin.

Speaker 1 (28:28):
But I bet Zach he's all roads lead back to
Janet and Shana, I know, but then they did a
flashback and it seems like all roads do lead back
to them. I know it does.

Speaker 2 (28:40):
But then I'm like, Sheena, next year, I bet she's
gonna have a lot more airtime.

Speaker 1 (28:45):
Sheena.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
Yeah, I feel like they're going to just coax her
back in. I think we're going to start saying out more.

Speaker 1 (28:52):
I had to talk with Sheena in New York when
I was here for the Upfronts, and I really do
love her, and I'm like, you should be on Orange County.
Would love for you to be in Orange County And
she's like, I'd move to.

Speaker 2 (29:02):
OC for that. Of course she would.

Speaker 1 (29:06):
I think that she would fit in. I need you
to move to Orange County first.

Speaker 2 (29:12):
I can't. I even have boundaries with the Teddy.

Speaker 1 (29:17):
I'm not important to you, am I not important in
your life that you would are.

Speaker 2 (29:20):
Important to me. But I'm not going to do a
false move to Orange County to go fight with hey.

Speaker 1 (29:26):
By the way, Heather lives in La.

Speaker 2 (29:28):
So listen, I'll take Heather's place in LA. You just
get in the car with her and you'll just come together.

Speaker 1 (29:34):
I tell it over to Orange County two.

Speaker 2 (29:37):
But then Janet once up again brings up that Danny
sexually assaulted Jasmine, and Kristen loses it, which, in my
opinion is the problem is Janet does not care if
Danny sexually assaulted somebody. In my opinion, she just wants
to weaponize it against him Ania, because the only people
that could really talk about this in this moment are

(29:58):
not talking about it.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
I think this is wrong.

Speaker 2 (30:01):
So essentially, what Jasmine and her girlfriend are saying, which
I agree with, is listen, we already handled this. We
had this conversation with Danny and Nia. We're done talking
about it, and now you, Janet, are the only one
talking about it, which is what is causing the problems.

Speaker 1 (30:15):
Next level, also, to accuse somebody of sexual assault is
it's slander. It's absolute slander, and it's very wrong of
Janet to do that. But then she doubles down in
her confessional even says something worse. I can't even remember.
I can't remember what it was. Was it molested or
something she's word molested or something.

Speaker 2 (30:35):
I can't remember her saying that, but I do remember
them like doubling down and saying like how he likes
to see girls and short skirts and fans and just
it keeps going on and on and on, and I'm like,
but you're not the one affected by this. Let this
be from Jasmine and her girlfriend. If this, if this
is going to continue on, I mean, Janet just doesn't know.

Speaker 1 (31:00):
Janet is just and is an attorney. He's got to
I don't know what kind of attorney he is, but
you can't just go on national TV or in an
interview and say he sexually assaults and then get in
your interview and say whoa will you want me to
say molest or something like that.

Speaker 2 (31:16):
Oh yeah, that is what she said.

Speaker 1 (31:18):
Yeah, And it's like, what are you doing? You can't
I mean or groped? Should I say molested or groped?
How about don't say anything at all? Didn't happen to
you and you weren't there. Weren't there, so I mean,
it wasn't. She went really really low. Can't even protect
her on this. Can't blame this on editing, can't blame
it on anybody but Janet.

Speaker 2 (31:40):
And then she was on social media yesterday doing something
which I thought she was going to maybe make an apology,
but instead it was just to talk about how she
didn't flee the United States to go on a trip,
that she had planned the trip in advance. And then
if we want to hear more, we can tune into
her podcast.

Speaker 1 (31:58):
Is it a Patreon you can pay me? You know
it's she's not self aware at all. I'm really shocked
at her husband, being an attorney, wouldn't have said, like,
does it you go out there and say that. I
knew instantly when I was on Watcher Hufbin's Life last
year that I misspoke. I didn't. I was trying to

(32:19):
say this joke and it didn't come out right, and
I knew instantly got on my social media. I'm like,
I apologize, That's not what I meant. I was trying
to say this, you know, and I still got served
with a with a legal letter. This is not going
to end well.

Speaker 2 (32:32):
And especially the timing, the location, Like none of it
makes any sense. Why, Like you threatened multiple times that
you weren't coming, so you decided to come and do this. No,
come and just be likable for this one time being.
But then once they docked, Kristen storms off the boat.
She screams out that she wants to kick Janet off

(32:55):
the boat. Luckily they're apparently close to land. They get off,
and then Janet claims there's a reason it's crazy Kristin
and not crazy Janet, and that's how it ends.

Speaker 1 (33:07):
Well, did you think at any moment that Kristin overreacted
on the boat or do you think it was warranted?

Speaker 2 (33:15):
No? I think it was warranted. I think she was
really frustrated, a.

Speaker 1 (33:18):
Little revbed up, and I'm like, okay, wait a minute.
And then when I saw the confessional where she's like,
you know, talks about molesting or gropi and all that,
I'm like, okay, no, no.

Speaker 2 (33:30):
But also she's very good friends with Danny and Nia,
and she knows the entire story, and she's like, listen,
let the people involve tell the story. This isn't your story, Janet.
And for Janet, you keep claiming that people are trying
to set you up for things, but yet that's what
you've done. The duration of everything that we've seen, how
many episodes are around thirteen episodes?

Speaker 1 (33:51):
How many more episodes are there to go?

Speaker 2 (33:53):
I don't know, because it didn't seem like we're ending anytime, not.

Speaker 1 (33:56):
Ending soon, but I felt like Janet only has one
one possibility to stay in this group and stay on
this show, and that is to put her tail between
her legs and apologize in the next few episodes and say,
you know, I don't know. I don't know why she
said it. I don't know if she truly believed it.
I don't know if she was drinking. I don't know
if she was trying to make good TV. I don't
know what her excuse was. But there's no excuse to

(34:18):
accuse somebody of molesting or you know, sexually assaulting somebody,
especially when it's not yourself. And I would love to
hear more of Jasmine speak up and say.

Speaker 2 (34:29):
Well, here's here's what I think is going to happen.
Because I saw a little bit of the after show Jasmine.
Jasmine had repeatedly said, we're done talking about this, we
already handled it, and then it was a little bit
different phrasing on the after show. So I think this
is going to continue to get very messy, and I
think it's really hard to watch. It's just it's a lot,

(34:51):
and you really kind of wonder. I'm like, because I
think that in person, Janet probably is pretty funny and good.
You know, that's why they brought her into the group.
I just wish you would stop trying so hard to.

Speaker 1 (35:05):
Yeah, I cause drama people are just not made for TV.

Speaker 2 (35:10):
But if you're that big of a fan and you've
watched the show that much, you could be a little
bit better.

Speaker 1 (35:15):
But no, I don't think. I don't agree with that, Teddy,
because I feel like, if you're a fan, you go
in with these preconceived notions that you have to do this,
and you have to do that, and you're going to
do this, and you want to stand out and sometimes
like whenever I've done that on the show, or I've
tried to, you know, play things out and make it
bigger than it is, and I've done it. I'll admit it.
I've made mistakes. You know, who comes out looking.

Speaker 2 (35:35):
Like the asshole you me? Yeah, No, it's true, it's true.

Speaker 1 (35:40):
But you can choose, and you have to be smart
about it. Like, yes, if you're going to move storyline,
you have to be good about it. You can't just
be throwing things out there and accusations all that, Like,
you can't.

Speaker 2 (35:50):
It doesn't work, No, And then you can't afterwards be
upset that people are upset at you. Yeah, because people
are watching the show. I mean, never do I think
anybody should be getting tons of online hate. It's unnecessary.
I think, you know, I'm necessary. Just it's it's it
kind of messes with the flow of people learning lessons

(36:10):
because then they're so busy fighting back with the people
coming for them that aren't on the show. I'd rather
see those things happen on the show.

Speaker 1 (36:20):
I've bought people that know Janet and say, oh my god,
she's not like that in real life. She's so sweet
and you know, and all this stuff, and she doesn't
deserve this hate. I think my advice to her is
show that side of yourself, Janet, don't feel like you
have to make good TV.

Speaker 2 (36:35):
Yeah, or take a break from trying to make good TV,
because it's to be honest, not good TV.

Speaker 1 (36:40):
Yeah, and she comes back. I don't think she'll ever
be like this again.

Speaker 2 (36:44):
Well we only well we'll see some people can't stop.
But she's We've got two episodes left and then we've
got the reunion. I am liking the season. I think
it's a good show to watch. I just think this
episode was a little too intense.

Speaker 1 (37:00):
Well, it's doing amazing from what I hear Alex posted
something on social media seeing the numbers are outrageous. I
think that it's like over three million.

Speaker 2 (37:09):
Yeah, that's huge, Yeah, that's big.

Speaker 1 (37:11):
Cool guys, you're doing it.

Speaker 2 (37:14):
Congratulations Valley. We need to get some of the other
people into the mix now though, because I'm done with Janet,
I'm done with just hearing from the Jans or.

Speaker 1 (37:21):
You want the Ogs to come back. I mean, we
get a little bit of Tom Schwartz. We didn't talk
about it, but Jax did have like a little scene
with Tom, and.

Speaker 2 (37:29):
I think we're going to see Tom just like pop
in here and there, because remember he lives next to Jack's. Yeah,
but he looks hot, he.

Speaker 1 (37:37):
Looks good, he looks amazing. But did you see Jackson's like, hey,
by the way, Kristen's engaged, and then he's like, oh, congratulated.
He's like, no, no, I'm not supposed to say anything.

Speaker 2 (37:46):
No, no, no, no, Like at least he had the
wherewithal to tell that. I'm surprised because he almost let
him text her, I know.

Speaker 1 (37:53):
And then he's like in his confessional, he's like, well,
there's one thing I'll never change. I'll always have a
big mouth. Myself aware about something.

Speaker 2 (38:03):
Well, he's proud of it.

Speaker 1 (38:05):
Well, some people have a hard time keeping it in.

Speaker 2 (38:07):
Yeah, I mean I may be one of those people,
but not when it comes to wedding.

Speaker 1 (38:11):
We're both those people's teddy, we're those peoples.

Speaker 2 (38:16):
But I love you, Tam and i'll miss you. Tomorrow
I'll be recapping Miami, but I'm sad that you're not
going to be here. But you're going to be doing
all the best things in New York.

Speaker 1 (38:27):
It's so good Miami. I haven't when you're doing two episodes, right,
I've only seen the first one, Yeah, where Stephanie comes
in and I am obsessed with her.

Speaker 2 (38:36):
Oh my gosh, I can't wait to see her.

Speaker 1 (38:38):
I'm not watching Miami. You need to watch Miami. I
saw their numbers are pretty low. Like watch Miami, you know.

Speaker 2 (38:44):
I can't. Like it's giving me something to look forward
to during immune therapy today, I'm like, ooh, I have
two episodes of Miami. Yeah, so I'm going to get
to watching that and i'll recap that with the Laurus.
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