May 14, 2023 • 47 mins
Sandy and Vicky (aka the Twots’ Moms!!) are here!!
Ever wonder who raised Teddi and Tamra? What the Twots were like as kids? How Tamra and Sandy are so open with each other about their sex lives? How Vicky dealt with Teddi’s alter ego?
And, would Sandy and Vicky ever entertain joining The Real Housewives Mom Edition? And if so, what their taglines would be?
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Two Teas in a Pod with Teddy Mellencamp and cam
Ridge Edge.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
All right, guys, welcome to another episode of Two Teas
in a Pod and it is a specialty episode today
because it is all about our mother's. How's our song?
Go Town? I am your mother.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
I am your mother.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
You listen to me, to me? So we have Sandy
on and then we're gonna have my mom Vicky on
in a bit. Sandy, I just have to ask you
one question before we get started. What is your middle name?
Speaker 3 (00:44):
My middle name is Manyon.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Oh see, I was hoping you were Sandy Sue, Sandy Sue.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
No, Ma, it's like Filet Mignon or something.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Manyon.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Where does that even come from?
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Yeah, it's a surname. Was part of my family.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
You'll learn something new every day. Are we talking sex
with my mom?
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:09):
I mean I'm gonna ask her some questions about the
Casida about.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
The Casidra, Yeah, we mean why we got a bigger bed?
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Yep, that's what I want to know. I want to
know first, how long did it take you to get
your bed upgraded so that things could be.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Probably seven months? I'd say, yeah, about seven months?
Speaker 4 (01:31):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
So she had a day bed in there, and then
she got a boyfriend, and.
Speaker 5 (01:37):
Yeah, then we about a blow up bed because that
little bed was just too small for what we wanted
to do.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
I feel like a blow up bed would be kind
of noisy, though.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Yeah, she's on the ground floor, so she's I don't
even want to think about it.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Can we just move on? Have you tried out to
ham or sex chair?
Speaker 1 (01:59):
I didn't tell her I had one, teddy?
Speaker 4 (02:01):
Thanks?
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Does it hang from the ceiling?
Speaker 1 (02:04):
No, it doesn't hang from the ceiling. Mom, It's just
what I mean.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
You didn't tell her you had on? What did she
think that was in your room?
Speaker 1 (02:11):
I hide it on the side of my bed.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Oh well, sorry about that?
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Okay, so let's start from the beginning. Was Tamra a
feisty little girl? What was she like as a kid?
Speaker 6 (02:23):
She was?
Speaker 5 (02:24):
She was an experience. You just never knew what you
were going to come home to. I came home one
day and the whole varsity football team was in my
family room. Not the star quarterback, the whole varsity football team.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
What were they doing? I'm gonna need a.
Speaker 5 (02:41):
Lying on the couch hanging over the recoiners on my
exercise equipment eating.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
So Tam was always a rule breaker.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
I was Yeah, she was friendly. Are you called?
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Are you slut shaming me me or your mom my mom?
Speaker 3 (03:00):
No, you were friendly. You had a lot of friends.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
She's just calling it like it is.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
I guess so.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
And rumor has it that you are going to be
the star of this season's Real Housewives of Orange County this.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Season and every season.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
God oh man.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
So good.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Okay, So she claims she learned how to make a
great burger from working at Burger King. Is this true?
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Yes, it is.
Speaker 5 (03:30):
We had given her a car for her sixteenth birthday,
and we told her she had to pay for her
own car insurance and her own gas, so she walked
home every day. So that day she came home with
her little uniform. She goes, Okay, I got a job, give.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Me the car.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
For the record, I never paid for my own inshian
our gas. Probably no, I made guys pay for my gas.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
See.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Oh, and that's why she had to have the whole
football team over.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Yeah, yep, rotation that tracks. I don't know who's on
the bench.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
And then, what did you think was going to grow
up to be as a child? Did you a yeah,
super model, not runway.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Well, clearly, I'm five four.
Speaker 5 (04:10):
I thought she'd be modeling for Sears or something, modeling
for Sears.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
You heard it here first the Sears catalog.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
No, like Mills. Remember the place where we'd go Mills,
all in Mills and you'd sit in a wicker chair
and like you have the bangs that were like there there, No, wait.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
I have that picture I have I'm gonna have to
find it in Mills.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
And they dressed me up like I was like eight,
and they dressed me up like I was forty five
years old, like pearls and these big earrings, but like
purple eye makeup. Okay, so you thought she was going
to be a model. Then what was your reaction when
she booked?
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Oh see, actually I didn't think she had a snowballs
chance in hell get it because there was no drama
in her life.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Well except for my failing marriage.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Well I don't even bring that up.
Speaker 5 (05:09):
But you know, I'm just I started watching the show
before she did.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Oh you did, So you were fan of the show.
Speaker 5 (05:16):
She's a reality junkie, Yes I am, And so I
saw the wine throwing in all that garbage, and I
thought she doesn't do that.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Well, they didn't really do that much wine throwing prior.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Well, they did a lot of arguing.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Well, I think I brought the arguing in.
Speaker 5 (05:30):
You caused the demise of the What did you think
when they fired me? I thought they were stupid, right, yeah,
I thought they were stupid.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
And they bring you back as soon as they could.
Oh yeah, I had that one pigged.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
That's very true. What is your favorite memory as Tamra
as a child? Favorite memory is a She's like, that's
gonna be hard.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
You know, I can't even answer that. I don't really remember.
I'm old as a child.
Speaker 7 (06:12):
Yep, I get my track, my bass, softball, my I
guess when she went to the All Stars she was
a picture you were, yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Softball, Yeah, she was good too.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
I was a jock.
Speaker 5 (06:25):
I yeah, she did track track. She filled in one
time for somebody who wasn't there or got sick, and
she came in first in every event.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Well, what it is is I ran track, but when
track and field there's things like throw the disc and
high jump and broad jump jumping all that. So they
threw me in because somebody was missing, and I won
them all.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
So let's go back to two thousand and six. You
were watching the show already and Tarma tells you she's
going to be on it once she's actually cast. Do
you think it was a bad idea? Like were you're
like you shouldn't do this or you're like, yeah, let's
go for it.
Speaker 5 (07:03):
No, I said let's go for it.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Just I don't even remember the early days with you
on the show, did you?
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Were you not real often?
Speaker 1 (07:14):
You weren't on it that often in the very beginning, right.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Have you guys always had a close relationship or you
guys do have like ups and downs. My mom will
be next, So no.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
We've always had a close relationship, but we are both
we're a lot alike. We were very uh private, private
into ourselves.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
So it's like my mom lives here at the house,
so we have a casino. We added on a kitchenette
to it, so she's got our own entrance and everything.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
So she comes and.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Goes, and I it'll be two weeks sometimes and I've
never even seen you.
Speaker 5 (07:44):
I'm not even sure your home or not, because if
your car's out there, I assume your home. But if
you were picked up right, you're not here so.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
So I don't see her as much as you would think.
I see her, Yeah, living with us.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
And then do you have a favorite on camera mode
that Tama has done.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
Yeah, I think it's when she threw the wine at Gina.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
And you had a speaking part in that. Do you
remember what it was?
Speaker 5 (08:12):
She says she's gonna throw my skinny ass in the
pool and I told her to leave my daughter alone
or something like that.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
So you were there in that moment.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
She was in the middle of it.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Yeah, she was.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
And what actually happened that made you throw wine? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (08:29):
So I was going through my divorce and Simon was
putting a lot of really negative stories in the press.
He had teamed up with this guy named Alan who
was at Radar, and they were constantly doing these just
nasty stories like you know, Tamra beats Simon and all
these crazy things. And they would always put my kids
in the press whenever they did these stories, and Gina
(08:51):
was always commenting on them, talking to Simon, and so
I kept telling I said, can you please stop every
time you do an interview, and Gina as well was
doing interviews. I said, every time you do it interview,
my kid's face are being all over.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
When you said cyst and deceased.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Yes, sist deceased and uh so I you know, I
was in NAPA with Eddie and I was right for
the season finale and another article came out and Gina
was commenting in it. So I said, this is it.
I called my attorney. I said, what can we do?
He says, well, I can give you know, I write
up a letter of.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Ceased and desist.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
And I said, let's do it. And so I said
do I need somebody to serve her? And they said, well,
well there's more impact on that. And then productions like
no you I told them, I God, I'm doing this.
They're like, no, you do it yourself. So I tried
to give it to her and she wouldn't take it,
and then she said I'm gonna throw your skinny ass
in the pool, and then I can't remember I.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Threw it in her face. He slapped her in the
face with it.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Oh great, hopefully great.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
I don't think I great a piece of paper. It's
not going to hurt her.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Yeah, either doesn't actin Well, how did you feel about
Tamra's bathtub scene with Eddie? He was uncomfortable for me,
what do you mean have you watched all the episodes?
Speaker 3 (10:04):
Like, no, I don't watch them all?
Speaker 2 (10:06):
And did you watch when she was off?
Speaker 3 (10:09):
No?
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Yeah I did not. No. And then let's think what
what other hard questions can I ask? Oh, other than Tamra,
who is your favorite Real Housewives of Orange County? It
can be from the past or at present. It doesn't
matter to me.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Out of all the cast, out of all the casts,
I mean out of.
Speaker 8 (10:31):
That, well, when you think about that, probably none of them.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Well what do you think of me?
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Who I like you?
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Okay, for you, you're one of the few. I've got
one person that likes me, Tamra's mom.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
But this is the most important persons.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Yeah, I mean obviously. Now, oh my god, we're gonna
have to do Mary and No thank you. These are
who you have to pick from.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Okay, Mary, no thank you?
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Slade mm hmmm, Terry, debro or Brooks.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
So who would you marry Slade, Terry Brow or Brooks?
Speaker 5 (11:16):
I marry Terry. Everybody needs a plastic surgeon in the family.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Okay, Okay, So you're gonna what are the other two?
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Slade and Brooks?
Speaker 3 (11:27):
No thank you? No, thank you?
Speaker 2 (11:29):
You don't get to do double note.
Speaker 9 (11:30):
Thanks.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
You gotta one of them, but you gotta pick which
one you're gonna.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Oh, not the one I'm gonna marry.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
No, Well, yeah you can't.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
So you're either gonna f Slade or you're gonna f Brooks.
I heard Brooks, Big Brooks.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Brooks.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
That's tough. That's a tough one. I don't think. I
think I would have to marry I'm opposite that you.
I'd have to marry Terry. Even though Teddy and Harry
as a couple is the worst combination of two names.
I'd have to f Slade and say no thank you
to Broox.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Yeah, I mean the other two are really they're really bad,
really bad.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
And then who if you were going to be a
permanent fixture and you got yourself your own orange, what
would your tagline be?
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Well, we just happened to have an orange right here.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
Okay. You know, although I've dated a lot of Franks,
but let's be Frank. I am the star of the show.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Although I've dated a lot of Franks. Three three Francs.
What's it with Franks?
Speaker 3 (12:45):
I don't know, it's just the age. I think that's
kind of a common name.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Well, her dad's your age, John Mellencamp. Would you date him?
Speaker 2 (12:54):
You know what? We could be sisters, We could be
I mean, you better. It's better than when we thought
you were going to be my mother in law, right,
not my mother in law, my mother, mother, my mother.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
I am your mother.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
I am your mother. I know we said you don't
have a favorite, oh Sea housewife, but who's your least favorite?
Speaker 4 (13:17):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (13:17):
All of them?
Speaker 4 (13:17):
But you.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
And my daughter. Of course.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
She gets annoyed with them, Yeah I do, But like,
but don't you get annoyed with me? Like when you
watch the show, are you like, oh.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
God, really?
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Or are you like, thank god she did that? No?
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Usually it's why does she keep arguing with people?
Speaker 1 (13:39):
But don't don't you guys ever argue not verbally?
Speaker 3 (13:42):
We don't. We we argue silently.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
We're silent.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Yeah, oh you just you're both just for you'd rather
just walk away.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
We just brush it under the ruck and then it
goes away. Eventually it goes away. But I don't.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
I mean, I can't think of a time where I'm like,
I didn't talk to my mom because she kissed me off.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
And if if you could take somebody's orange and make
it your own. Who would it be?
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Oh? Heathered debros Hey.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Next, and then do you think that Tamar has made
any true real friendships on this show?
Speaker 3 (14:20):
Possibly?
Speaker 1 (14:20):
You, but she's not on the okay, on the show
that you're on.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
No, and I don't appreciate the possibly.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Have to put a little disclaimer in there, you know,
Oh my god. Yeah, my mom's not the overly emotional,
touchy Philly. She's a lot like me, or I'm a
lot like her. We're cold, we're cold people. We have
hearts advice. So like if we're having a party or
(14:52):
people are over, we're like, where's Mom? Oh, she left,
she's gone.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
There was.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
She doesn't believe in.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
A I hate goodbyes. I hate goodbye.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Irish Is that what they call it?
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Yeah, Irish goodbyes. I love an Irish goodbye.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Yeah, so we'll be This is before she lived with us,
because even now when she lives, we's mom. She's gone mom.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
And then will you guys spend Mother's Day together?
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Well, this might be a good time for me to
tell you that I'm leaving town.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
I was going to say, if she's going to be
in town, yes, if not, it's okay.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
So will you hang out with one of the Franks?
Speaker 3 (15:30):
Hell?
Speaker 1 (15:31):
No, Now she's got a David.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Yeah, David. The Franks was a long time ago.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Now finally moved on to a David.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
David.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
How long have you guys been together?
Speaker 3 (15:41):
About a year? In three months?
Speaker 2 (15:43):
About three months and two days.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Do you think you're going to get married?
Speaker 3 (15:47):
No, I'll never get married again?
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Or is he going to move in with you?
Speaker 10 (15:50):
Not?
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Here?
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Are you going to move to your house in Arizona?
Speaker 5 (15:53):
I'm thinking we will eventually on eventually?
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Why you want to rent out the casito?
Speaker 2 (15:59):
I need a place to stay when I go to
the horse shows. I need to get out of there. Okay, Well,
but also I have to say now that I'm seeing
this picture of you two. Yeah, like I thought you
were still going to have this haircut, and what's happened?
You look so young?
Speaker 3 (16:20):
COVID happened?
Speaker 2 (16:21):
But you have long hair and you look like you
guys could be sisters.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Oh good, what we could be.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
We're only seventeen years apart. Eighteen years seventeen something like that.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Oh you are, so you had Tamar when you were
seventeen and then Tamar? How old were you when you
had your first eighteen so how'd you feel when she
got pregnant so young?
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Can you tell the story, please?
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Bullet points.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
We were I was at school, Sharon was at home.
My boyfriend in high school was a year older than me,
so you had.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Already graduated, already out school, and he was at our.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
House a lot, so it wasn't uncommon for him to.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Be at the house waiting for her to come home.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Waiting for me to come home. So he was there
with my mom and go ahead.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
You, I thank you. I asked him, Are is she pregnant?
You asked him yes, because.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
The Wigee board, that's what it was. We were doing
the Ouiji board in the Wow.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
Yes, it's Tamra pregnant.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
And that's how I have a mom. So we were
doing a wigie board like a week prior, and it
kept spelling out baby, baby, baby, and I'm like, oh god,
I started to get a little nervous, and and then
I think it said who and it pointed at me,
and we're like laughed it off and laughed it off.
And then Darren was at my house and I was
coming home from school. I walk into my mom looking
(17:45):
at me, crying and going, I'm too young to be
a grand mother.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
But then let's tell him what happened.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
And then I looked at Darrel, I'm like, you idiot,
why would you go and do that?
Speaker 2 (17:55):
He told her, So he told her without you even
being there, And.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
I wasn't gonna tell her. I wasn't even sure I
was going to have it.
Speaker 5 (18:03):
Well, we went to Planned Parenthood and while we're going up,
there was one of the picketers were there and the yelling,
we can help you with this baby.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
I turned around, we're keeping the baby and we walked out.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Yeah, so you never even went in and that baby
was Ryan.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (18:18):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (18:19):
And did you marry Darren?
Speaker 1 (18:20):
I did?
Speaker 4 (18:22):
I did.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Did you like Darren?
Speaker 9 (18:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (18:24):
I like Darren.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Yeah he was nice.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
He's a nice kid.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Well it's not kid anymore.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
How long were you guys married?
Speaker 3 (18:31):
Not very long.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
We were probably together about seven years, but only married
a few years.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Well that's a pretty good amount of time.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Yeah, yeah, I mean a lot of it was. It
took us a while to get divorced, but I think
by the time Ryan was probably two years old, we
were we were.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
Separated, Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
And I moved back in with my mom. Right, Yeah,
then I've moved up. Then I moved back in.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Then I moved up.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
So you guys live together quite often.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Yes, now in my older age, I move in with her,
I move out.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
I moved back in.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Yeah, and she would live with my brother for a
little bit.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
But TAM's your favorite kid to live with? Is she
your favorite in general?
Speaker 3 (19:14):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (19:15):
No, I'm not going to say that. Yes, all of
my kids are my favorite. No, they're not.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
I you, I got you to do it.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
My favorite kid is Ryan.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
That's the truth.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
That is the truth.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
We would get into a fight. It was when Ryan
was younger, and I felt like she was enabling him
because it was oh poor Ryan, he'd get in trouble.
Oh Ryan, it's okay, It's okay. So yeah, but not anymore,
not anymore. She actually has ava every Thursday.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
Now, she's my favorite.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
She's here now.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Yeah, Well we've got my mom in the waiting room,
so Tam, you can have at her. So should we
bring in Vicky.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
Any off limits? Uestian's Teddy?
Speaker 2 (20:03):
I don't think so. I think it's all pretty I
think I'm a pretty open book until we hear her
start talking.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
Okay, what.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
So Mom, you're on with Sandy and Tamera.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Hi, Viki, how are you?
Speaker 4 (20:32):
I'm good now.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Recently, recently Teddy told us that you had taken a
little fall at work, and there's so many supporters on
Instagram that were really like worried and rooting for you.
How are you feeling now?
Speaker 9 (20:47):
I am feeling a lot better. I fell on October first,
and my eye, the sixth nerve that controls the eyes,
is what was damaged, and it's They told me that
I needed to be I needed to use a lot
of patients, that it would be nine months to a
year before the nerve regenerated, and I told them at
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the time, I don't even know how to spell patients. Oh, Peter,
do I Now I've now crossed over the seven and
a half month mark, and where is my eye? Laid
at seventy five percent cross eye? The right eye late
seventy five percent cross eyed.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
When it was resting until the six month mark.
Speaker 9 (21:33):
Then it jumped to forty and now I'm at twelve percent.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Oh, you're getting better.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Yeah, it's you.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Great progress, great progress, that's awesome.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
I'm excited.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
So I need to know this is a million dollar question.
What was Teddy's like as a child? How was she?
Was she obedient?
Speaker 3 (21:53):
Was she a wild child? What was she like?
Speaker 9 (21:58):
She was not a trouble maker. He was a trouble
of voiter. Okay, So when you say obedient, sometimes, especially
in the teen years, if you'd say, well, Teddy's sure
you could have some friends over as long as you
promised to stay.
Speaker 4 (22:17):
If they all get ready to leave.
Speaker 9 (22:18):
Don't leave with them and help me clean the house.
You'd go, okay, mom, I promise, And then pretty soon
I'd be looking around and I couldn't find Teddy. She
was one of the first. She was one of the
first ones to go. But other than that, I mean,
of course I have to come up with something to
embarrass her, and that's as good as I can get.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
But she was.
Speaker 9 (22:41):
He was so dedicated and so committed to her writings
and you know, her equestrian activities, that she literally would
live at the barn. There were times I wondered if
I had a daughter named Teddy because I had seen
her for a few days.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
Do you think that dedication you writing kept her out
of trouble?
Speaker 4 (23:03):
I do think it did. I do think it.
Speaker 9 (23:05):
Did? You know there were a lot of things that
she passed on because there was a horse show coming
up and she wanted to, you know, put in the
practice and put in the hours that she needed to
on that instead. And then I think she just knuck
a little bit of trouble in here and there she did.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
But I know this is no shock to you, no surprise.
Teddy is a type a personality, right. Was she always outspoken?
Speaker 9 (23:36):
I think Teddy was always She was always a performer.
Speaker 4 (23:40):
She would always.
Speaker 9 (23:41):
Perform things and keep keep the room laughing. And she
wanted to please people, and not in.
Speaker 10 (23:49):
A bad way.
Speaker 9 (23:49):
She preferred to keep things light and keep things entertaining.
And I was more of an emotional person, and I
think that's why sometimes her and I got a little
goofy because I'd want to talk about feelings and she'd
just want to do a dance.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
I did not have any interest. There's things I have
no interest in. Phone calls, feelings, hugs, yep, yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Pats on the back. Yeah. Teddy and I are a
lot alike in that sense, like we don't like to
talk about feelings. That's why we have a really great friendship.
Speaker 9 (24:30):
Can I use this opportunity to sneak one in since
I've got back up. Oh God, yep, I want to
I just want to say, forty two years ago, my
father called me on Mother's Day and said Happy Mother's Day,
and I was pregnant with Teddy. She came about six
weeks later, and I literally sat in the chair that
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I was sitting in and realized, for the first time
in my life, I could celebrate Mother's Day because.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
I did not have that as a as a child.
Speaker 9 (25:03):
And it's been like.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
That ever since.
Speaker 9 (25:05):
Okay, there, now I've said the emotional stuff and I've
got it out.
Speaker 4 (25:09):
Well.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
Mom, I think you're three for three with Sandy and Tam.
Were you pregnant with me when you were eighteen?
Speaker 4 (25:17):
Towo? No?
Speaker 3 (25:20):
How old were you?
Speaker 4 (25:20):
I was twenty?
Speaker 9 (25:21):
I was twenty one or twenty two when you were born?
Twenty two when you were born?
Speaker 2 (25:25):
But then when'd you marry Dad.
Speaker 4 (25:27):
That same year?
Speaker 9 (25:28):
But I lived with him for two years prior.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
To you being Okay, so you are a teen, then
I was.
Speaker 9 (25:33):
I met your dad when I was nineteen.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
At the Rainbow Room.
Speaker 9 (25:38):
No, at a dinner at a restaurant.
Speaker 4 (25:41):
I think it was.
Speaker 9 (25:43):
Dantana's or yeah, I think it was Dantana's.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
Oh yeah it was.
Speaker 9 (25:48):
It was a secret blind date.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
Wow, well a secret because he was still married.
Speaker 9 (25:54):
Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 10 (25:57):
I didn't find that.
Speaker 4 (25:57):
I didn't find that out for a few months either.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
But then you drove Indiana and your and yeah, what
was that a v W buss?
Speaker 9 (26:06):
No, but Chevy love truck with partial Yeah, so fine,
it's fine.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
What was it like being married to John Mellencamp.
Speaker 9 (26:19):
When I married John? You know, because I grew up
out there in California when I met him, the thing
that actually endeared me to him was he wasn't all
and I don't mean to be offensive in any way,
but he wasn't all sunglasses and you know.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
Dinner reservation.
Speaker 9 (26:36):
He was this Indiana boy, and we had enough of
that lifestyle intermingled with the beginning of his career that
that's that's that was.
Speaker 10 (26:48):
A good part.
Speaker 9 (26:49):
Those were the good years, really good years.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
He's he was a lot of fun.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
There we go, She's like, and that's where we're gonna
end it, right to the what did you think Teddy
would grow up to be?
Speaker 9 (27:05):
I thought she'd be an equestri in her whole life
and she still kind of is, isn't she.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
Yeah, Yeah, did you think that she would get into
the entertainment business at all?
Speaker 10 (27:15):
I didn't.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
I didn't, you know what.
Speaker 9 (27:17):
I didn't see it coming. And when Teddy was making
plans to move to Los Angeles, I was the last
one to find out. And I look back on that
now and I realized that was probably Teddy's way of
avoiding an emotional situation, because I probably would have been
begging her not to do that, you know, just like then,
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we'll stick with the horses, you.
Speaker 4 (27:41):
Know, we'll sell the house. Let's do what we could do.
But that would have been.
Speaker 9 (27:46):
Holding her down and holding her back, and she wasn't
about to let anyone do that, you know. So I'm
proud of what she's done.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
Others, Yeah, she's done a lot, and she's probably, i mean,
the most driven girl besides myself that I know. Like
she that's I mean, we have a lot of things
in common, but that's one of it. She she doesn't
have to work as hard as she does, and she
does all the time.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
And I admire that.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
I know.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Now, I have heard Teddy sing many times, and I
constantly tell her you have a great voice. Did you
ever think that she was going to pursue pursue a
career in the music industry.
Speaker 9 (28:25):
When she did that demo of it, she did yeah
and was and was interested in it. I understood why
she would be. I mean, she grew up in recording
studios and on the side of the stage with you know,
with her little sister too, and I understood it. But
I think if I would have had any any emotions
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on it, it would have been I would have worried
that she would have had a really tough row to,
you know, to hope with people judging her on writing
on her father's shirt tails and says like that that
mayor you know that that.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
I now read some of her Instagram stuff and think what.
Speaker 9 (29:08):
I don't know why I would have ever thought that, But.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
Do you so, do you go into Teddy's Instagram and
read messages because my view, okay, okay, that's my question, Teddy. So,
my mom in the past has done that, and she's
got into arguments with fans that are saying not so
nice things about me. Have you done that?
Speaker 4 (29:29):
Yes, yes, I have done it.
Speaker 9 (29:32):
Teddy has has forbidden me to do it anymore.
Speaker 4 (29:35):
But I did just I.
Speaker 9 (29:37):
Did just get into a little nappy with somebody. But
it wasn't on Teddy's Instagram. It was on John Mellencamp's
fan page, where people were criticizing the way Teddy.
Speaker 4 (29:48):
And John were posed in a picture.
Speaker 9 (29:51):
And I got very I got very angry, wow, and
I deleted. I deleted it.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
Oh so you're posting delete person? Okay, okay.
Speaker 9 (30:02):
I posted it, left it there for three days. The
administrator called and apologized profusely, and I thought, okay.
Speaker 4 (30:09):
Enough for that, and I took it off.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
Well, you know what, if my daughter was on TV,
I think that I would probably do the same thing.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
I would.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
I think that I would make comments, especially when people
are so mean on Instagram or on social media in general.
It's really hard to watch that, and Teddy gets them
and we all get our hate, but Teddy Teddy gets
some a fair share, which I don't understand at all.
A lot of people don't. But that post that was
done with you and your dad, somebody recently posted it.
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I think it was reality blurb, and so I started
reading the comments because I saw nothing wrong with that picture.
So Mom Teddy took a picture with her dad. Teddy
explained that she had a he had a white t
shirt on and he didn't feel like dressy enough or something,
so she put her leg up trying to block him.
And people are like, that's an inappropriate picture your father.
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But you weren't happening your father, you know, the debt
perception with cameras is hard to see. It's like your
leg was wrapped around him. But a lot of the
people were in support of you, Teddy, and they were saying,
this is ridiculous. That's her dad. You guys, if you're
thinking that, then that's your problem. That's a you problem.
Speaker 8 (31:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
And also and not for nothing.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
Yeah, I did think, oh gosh, that is gonna look
a little funny. But there was no way I would
get another picture with my dad.
Speaker 4 (31:27):
Mom.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
How much does dad like taking pictures?
Speaker 4 (31:30):
Yeah, come on, take another one, dad.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
She would have been like, golf yourself. I just took one,
my bellies not showing we looked good. There's absolutely no
way I'm getting another picture. So they're just gonna have
to deal with that, because I like, my mom just
came and we took nice pictures together. I like to
have photos because I don't know if Mom am I
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allowed to share this, but we we had some like
financial hardships growing up, and my mom had a storage unit,
and inside that storage unit, we're all am I saying
this right, Mom, all of our photo albums and all
of our well.
Speaker 9 (32:11):
I still have a lot of photo albums, but yes,
there were a lot of your childhood.
Speaker 4 (32:16):
Things in there.
Speaker 9 (32:17):
And it was a scam artist that they came in
and closed down the storage unit and sold off all
my stuff.
Speaker 4 (32:24):
So I had the opportunity to.
Speaker 9 (32:27):
Buy it back, but at that time, financially, I was
not set up to do that. So I said, have
fun with all that, with all those moldy because I
never threw anything away when my kids were growing up.
Speaker 4 (32:43):
So yeah, if I had a place to store it,
I stored it.
Speaker 9 (32:45):
And I think I had every single piece of Teddy's
artwork from the time she was in Montessori school to
senior in high school. You know, so all that's out
there somewhere.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
That's a bomber because you can't replace those. Now, when
you found out Teddy is going to be on the
Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, what was your initial reaction?
Were you for it or against it? Are scared?
Speaker 4 (33:12):
Well?
Speaker 9 (33:12):
My initial reaction because I kind of I mean, I
remember Marathon watching what was that Top Top Model you
and I'd been.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
Oh, yeah, America, because I always love the competition shows
like America's Next Top Model, American Idol, Bachelor, those types
of shows.
Speaker 9 (33:28):
So I don't know that I was, you know, one
schooled on the Real Housewives franchise or you know those shows.
So when I first heard about it, I then watched
a few episodes because some of my friends and some
of my customers in the restaurant I worked at at
the time were telling me how excited they were that
Teddy was going to be on the show and it's
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their favorite show, and so I then started watching it.
Then my initial reaction.
Speaker 4 (33:57):
Was, oh god, oh god, yeah, I bet this.
Speaker 10 (34:04):
Is gonna be scary.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
Is there any moment on the show that you watched
her that you were like, Oh, Teddy, why did you
do that?
Speaker 9 (34:22):
Not really, not really, I think you know it's it's
she's she's a grown woman, but she's my little girl,
you know. And I'm sure there were parts where I
knew the vultures were going.
Speaker 4 (34:36):
To come out because of.
Speaker 9 (34:37):
Something said or done, and I'd be like, oh god, Jeddy,
oh what was the one Molisa you know I was
worried about Molisa showing up and.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
Oh that was that. When I was younger, my alter,
my mean alter ego was Mosha.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
And everyone have a mean alter ego.
Speaker 9 (34:58):
Uh huh.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
Everybody would be like, oh, no, so Mo's coming out,
and I'm.
Speaker 6 (35:01):
Like, if MO was mean as a snake, oh great,
But I never I was never.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
Mo on the show.
Speaker 9 (35:14):
No, I know. And I did watch every episode that
Teddy was in I dB artist, and I would always say, oh,
I'll watch it tomorrow during the day when I can wait.
Speaker 4 (35:25):
No, I didn't.
Speaker 9 (35:26):
If it didn't matter if I got home at eleven
thirty at night or whatever, I'd still get through the
episode before going to bed.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
So yeah, if if Bravo was to have a Real
Mom's of Housewives, how can I say that the Real
Housewife Moms?
Speaker 2 (35:46):
Let's say that.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
So if Bravo was to have a show called the
Real Moms of the Housewives, let's say it's an Ultimate
Girls trip and they take some of the most iconic
moms on the show, put them in an island or
some fancy hotel. Would you guys sign up for that?
Speaker 3 (36:02):
I would?
Speaker 9 (36:03):
I would have. I would if I could do the
all in my teddy for about six months ahead of time.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
I think that would be a great idea.
Speaker 4 (36:15):
I got some work to do. All this patience has
put on the pounds a little bit.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
We actually were supposed to my mom never filmed with me.
We were supposed to film together. I was going to
go back to Hilton Head where I grew up, and
they were going to film my baby shower, and we
were going to meet my mom and my sister. Because
you have to realize they never saw any of my family.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
I know, and.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
My mom has bipolar disorder, and producers knew that, and
they wanted us to talk about it, and my mom
had agreed to it. I had agreed to it. We
thought that it would be a good way to bring
awareness to it because we didn't realize that she had
it for a really long time. And then actually my
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dad stepped in and said, I think this is a
bad idea, you guys. I think that's too personal of
stuff to share. And and then yeah, I got.
Speaker 9 (37:09):
I got the I got the phone call from John
and he said, VICKI there, you know you don't need this,
and I went, yeah, maybe I don't.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
So yeah, now, looking back, do you wish you would have,
You know, No, I don't.
Speaker 9 (37:26):
I don't look at I don't look at it as
a terrible missed opportunity. I may not have been at
the time, and yeah, it could have been fun and
I missed, you know, I miss out any opportunity. I
miss out on being with Teddy and her and her
kids and Needlin. You know, I pine over for a
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moment or two or more.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
But uh, but she's learned to stop being emotional with
me about it, which is good.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
Now you have if you were diagnosed with a bipologist
and Teddy has been diagnosed with OCD, do you guys
talk about mental health to each other.
Speaker 9 (38:08):
I probably don't talk to Teddy much about it because
A she'd have to talk on the phone, be it
probably get emotional. She doesn't want that, and she I
don't know how much she'd want to hear from me
on the topic, knowing some of my ups and downs
over the years. And I don't know if it would
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feel like, really, mom, you're talking to me about this.
Speaker 3 (38:34):
So yeah, but I.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
Feel like she can learn from you, like my mom
grew up. My grandmother was schizophrenic and she was hospitalized
for for many many years and knowing that, I mean,
she was a fabulous grandmother. Fabulous and you know, my
mom had she had my mom later in life, and
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my grandmother was back then, you know, they put him
in the mental hospital and gave him shocked he ments
things like that. So she go without her mom around
most of the time. She was raised by her older sister.
And for me, you know, I knew that at a
young age and love my grandmother. Always worried for my kids.
Is this something that's gonna because they say sometimes it
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skips a generation. And now I have one daughter that
has OCD and bad anxiety and things like that. And
I just feel like mental health today, before it was
just kept so quiet and we never talked about it.
And I think that the more we talk about it
and make it public, people will feel, you know, they
will relate to that and feel at home and feel like,
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you know what, I'm not the only one in this
world dealing with it.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
And I think that when my mom and I are
the closest, And I think that something people don't often
talk about when it comes to mental health is when
you're feeling good and you're you know, you've been medicated
and you're in therapy and things are good, then all
of a sudden you think I don't need to be
on the medication anymore, I don't need to be going
to therapy, or I don't need to be doing these things.
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And I've done the same thing with me, you know,
with my anxiety. And so for me, my big priority
for my mom and for our relationship is that she
stays consistent on what's making her feel the best and
and and the times that she hasn't, that's where and
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because I'm not great at sharing my feelings instead of
telling her like I love you, and that scares me,
and you know, I want you to do this because
I want you to feel good. I then just get
kind of mean, like I pull away, like my way
of not stern, but stern, like I just am like, fine,
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if you're not gonna, if you're going to go off
the medication, then I'm not talking to you. Like I'm
very and I regret some of you know, I'm in
therapy myself, and I regret some.
Speaker 4 (40:54):
You know.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
When Mom had her fall and then she got really
sick afterwards too, I was like, holy ship, like you're
a mess. I was such a mess. And I was like,
there are times that like I could have been there
for my mom and been more loving towards her and
more understanding to how she was feeling, and I just
refused because I was stubborn.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
I think also the distance of dream you guys too,
you not being able to see her all the time
to you know, physically check out. Yeah, that's got to
be hard.
Speaker 4 (41:26):
Now.
Speaker 1 (41:26):
I know we're running in time. But there's been a
lot of request for your special pounded chicken recipe if.
Speaker 9 (41:35):
I were to make that public, and he wouldn't flend
me up to California again because.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
Now you have to tell them it is so good,
But you have to tell them the specifics because I
am such a weirdo about chicken. I like, I will
never eat chicken out ever. At Like, I have major
issues surrounding chicken. The dirty it's dirty.
Speaker 4 (41:56):
Yes, yeah, but I'll tell you real quick. You get that.
Speaker 9 (41:59):
You get the chicken tender You know that, the packets
that's boneless, and it's like the tenderlin, the tenderloins, whatever
you take them up, you cut it. You make sure
that they're all somewhat similar in size, otherwise they don't
cook up right, you pound them out with.
Speaker 4 (42:15):
Wax paper like I put wax.
Speaker 9 (42:17):
Paper underneath it on top, and pound them out to
very thin, thin, thin cutlets. Now, if Teddy's eating at
your house, you then get a very sharp knife and
make sure you've removed any blood, vessels or veins or
in the newly parts of the chicken, because if Teddy
bites into something like that.
Speaker 4 (42:38):
It's over, okay.
Speaker 9 (42:40):
So then you I refrige, I refrigerator them overnight, you
have to. That helps with the process, I believe. Then
the next day, in an egg milk bath, you know,
dip each one, then roll it and pack it full
of of you know, real a thick coating of progressive
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Italian seasoning.
Speaker 2 (43:04):
It's very healthy all in, but I can't.
Speaker 1 (43:08):
And then again, if you fry it for Teddy's all in,
do you fry it or bacon?
Speaker 9 (43:15):
Well, that's for Teddy's all in family. I'm sorry, but
this is the one one thing she does is.
Speaker 4 (43:22):
Enjoyed this meal.
Speaker 9 (43:23):
Once in a while, I fry it.
Speaker 2 (43:25):
And then mashed potatoes, green bean potatoes or asparagus.
Speaker 9 (43:31):
Asparagus is always a good one.
Speaker 4 (43:33):
And then it's some big caesar salad.
Speaker 9 (43:35):
A huge caeesar salad and lots of lemon. Lots of lemon.
You squeeze lots of lemon on your cutlets.
Speaker 3 (43:42):
Oh, I love that.
Speaker 1 (43:42):
And your recent trip to Los Angeles to stave Teddy.
You made that meal, right, I did.
Speaker 4 (43:49):
I made thirty eight pieces of chicken.
Speaker 2 (43:51):
It's a non negotiable. If she's coming, we're having that meal.
And my husband's obsessed with that, my kids are obsessed
with that. It's like and I don't know, I just
that meal gives me comfort because like when I was little,
I was such a picky eater that my mom would
sit down and I'd say, I am not eating that,
Like if if there was fish in it, if there's this,
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I was like, I don't want it. So she would
put down this cow's tongue and what was the other thing, Mom,
cow's tongue and paste, and she would set it on
the table in front of me and she'd go, you're
either going to try what I cooked for dinner or
you're going to eat that. And I would just sit
at the table for hours.
Speaker 1 (44:33):
Well, my mom used to try. My mom and dad
used trying to make me eat peas to this day,
will not eat peas. I can't even stand the smell
of them. And then she'd always make me do the dishes,
which to this day I hate doing the dishes. But
my dad liked weird food. My dad liked frog's legs.
Speaker 3 (44:54):
Yes, rabbit, fried rabbit, fried rabbit.
Speaker 5 (44:58):
I mean one time we had boxtails and beans, just
oh yum.
Speaker 1 (45:05):
And then one time we got stuck with these chickens
in our backyard and they were mean. I think they're
roosters right there. They were mean. They would like, we
run to the place at and they'd come and scratch us.
So my dad one day got the axe and snapped
their head off. Oh then cook dumb, cooked dumb, and
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they were tough.
Speaker 3 (45:28):
They were tough.
Speaker 2 (45:29):
And I'm like, well, mom, and clothing, you have to
tell the story of when I became a vegetarian.
Speaker 4 (45:37):
Oh yes, okay.
Speaker 9 (45:38):
So Teddy's dad and I are sitting at the kitchen table.
Teddy's in the other room. She's watching Nicky Mouser side.
Speaker 4 (45:46):
Remember the baby cants.
Speaker 9 (45:48):
Yeah, the Mouser size exercise program and that girl wore
the little wrist bracelets, the headband, the ankle socks, all
squished down.
Speaker 4 (45:59):
Whatever.
Speaker 9 (46:00):
So Teddy had the whole outfit on and was in
the other room mouseur sizing.
Speaker 1 (46:04):
And she's still mouseizing to this day.
Speaker 4 (46:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (46:08):
Well, she comes struttened by John and I and she
had attitudes. She had the little butt going and walking
straight over to the big sub zero fridge that she
could barely open, and she opens it up, and she
had previously told me that she was a vegetarian from
now on, right, But then she walks right past us,
(46:30):
patting her brow with her little ankle band like because
she's worked up such a sweat moutracizing, and she opens
up the refrigerator and pulls out a slice of blowney
Oscar Meyer bologney. Okay, rolls it up and is taking
bites of it.
Speaker 4 (46:47):
As she walks back by us, and John looks at
me and goes, I thought she said she was a vegetarian.
Now she did, And so then she.
Speaker 9 (46:57):
Comes back through about ten minutes later, it starts to
walk by us again, and she opens up the fridge again,
opens up the deli drawer, pulls out another slice of balogney,
and John Listener goes, hey, Teddy, how's that vegetarian thing
working out for you?
Speaker 4 (47:14):
And she said pretty good.
Speaker 10 (47:16):
I like to be a vegetarian.
Speaker 4 (47:18):
Walks away e.
Speaker 3 (47:23):
God so pretty much.
Speaker 2 (47:24):
I've always been full of ship.
Speaker 1 (47:28):
Yeah, sounds about right.
Speaker 2 (47:31):
Well, thank you guys, Thank you mom so much for
joining us.
Speaker 1 (47:35):
Yes, and Happy Mother's Day.
Speaker 2 (47:36):
Happy Mother's Day, you guys, thank you, thank.
Speaker 9 (47:39):
You, Happy Mother's Thank you to all.
Speaker 1 (47:42):
Of you, all of
Speaker 2 (47:48):
Yours all right, bye bye
Two Teas in a Pod with Teddy Mellencamp and cam
Ridge Edge.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
All right, guys, welcome to another episode of Two Teas
in a Pod and it is a specialty episode today
because it is all about our mother's. How's our song?
Go Town? I am your mother.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
I am your mother.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
You listen to me, to me? So we have Sandy
on and then we're gonna have my mom Vicky on
in a bit. Sandy, I just have to ask you
one question before we get started. What is your middle name?
Speaker 3 (00:44):
My middle name is Manyon.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Oh see, I was hoping you were Sandy Sue, Sandy Sue.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
No, Ma, it's like Filet Mignon or something.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Manyon.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Where does that even come from?
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Yeah, it's a surname. Was part of my family.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
You'll learn something new every day. Are we talking sex
with my mom?
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:09):
I mean I'm gonna ask her some questions about the
Casida about.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
The Casidra, Yeah, we mean why we got a bigger bed?
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Yep, that's what I want to know. I want to
know first, how long did it take you to get
your bed upgraded so that things could be.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Probably seven months? I'd say, yeah, about seven months?
Speaker 4 (01:31):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
So she had a day bed in there, and then
she got a boyfriend, and.
Speaker 5 (01:37):
Yeah, then we about a blow up bed because that
little bed was just too small for what we wanted
to do.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
I feel like a blow up bed would be kind
of noisy, though.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Yeah, she's on the ground floor, so she's I don't
even want to think about it.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Can we just move on? Have you tried out to
ham or sex chair?
Speaker 1 (01:59):
I didn't tell her I had one, teddy?
Speaker 4 (02:01):
Thanks?
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Does it hang from the ceiling?
Speaker 1 (02:04):
No, it doesn't hang from the ceiling. Mom, It's just
what I mean.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
You didn't tell her you had on? What did she
think that was in your room?
Speaker 1 (02:11):
I hide it on the side of my bed.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Oh well, sorry about that?
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Okay, so let's start from the beginning. Was Tamra a
feisty little girl? What was she like as a kid?
Speaker 6 (02:23):
She was?
Speaker 5 (02:24):
She was an experience. You just never knew what you
were going to come home to. I came home one
day and the whole varsity football team was in my
family room. Not the star quarterback, the whole varsity football team.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
What were they doing? I'm gonna need a.
Speaker 5 (02:41):
Lying on the couch hanging over the recoiners on my
exercise equipment eating.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
So Tam was always a rule breaker.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
I was Yeah, she was friendly. Are you called?
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Are you slut shaming me me or your mom my mom?
Speaker 3 (03:00):
No, you were friendly. You had a lot of friends.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
She's just calling it like it is.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
I guess so.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
And rumor has it that you are going to be
the star of this season's Real Housewives of Orange County this.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Season and every season.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
God oh man.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
So good.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Okay, So she claims she learned how to make a
great burger from working at Burger King. Is this true?
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Yes, it is.
Speaker 5 (03:30):
We had given her a car for her sixteenth birthday,
and we told her she had to pay for her
own car insurance and her own gas, so she walked
home every day. So that day she came home with
her little uniform. She goes, Okay, I got a job, give.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Me the car.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
For the record, I never paid for my own inshian
our gas. Probably no, I made guys pay for my gas.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
See.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Oh, and that's why she had to have the whole
football team over.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Yeah, yep, rotation that tracks. I don't know who's on
the bench.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
And then, what did you think was going to grow
up to be as a child? Did you a yeah,
super model, not runway.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Well, clearly, I'm five four.
Speaker 5 (04:10):
I thought she'd be modeling for Sears or something, modeling
for Sears.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
You heard it here first the Sears catalog.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
No, like Mills. Remember the place where we'd go Mills,
all in Mills and you'd sit in a wicker chair
and like you have the bangs that were like there there, No, wait.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
I have that picture I have I'm gonna have to
find it in Mills.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
And they dressed me up like I was like eight,
and they dressed me up like I was forty five
years old, like pearls and these big earrings, but like
purple eye makeup. Okay, so you thought she was going
to be a model. Then what was your reaction when
she booked?
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Oh see, actually I didn't think she had a snowballs
chance in hell get it because there was no drama
in her life.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Well except for my failing marriage.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Well I don't even bring that up.
Speaker 5 (05:09):
But you know, I'm just I started watching the show
before she did.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Oh you did, So you were fan of the show.
Speaker 5 (05:16):
She's a reality junkie, Yes I am, And so I
saw the wine throwing in all that garbage, and I
thought she doesn't do that.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Well, they didn't really do that much wine throwing prior.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Well, they did a lot of arguing.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Well, I think I brought the arguing in.
Speaker 5 (05:30):
You caused the demise of the What did you think
when they fired me? I thought they were stupid, right, yeah,
I thought they were stupid.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
And they bring you back as soon as they could.
Oh yeah, I had that one pigged.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
That's very true. What is your favorite memory as Tamra
as a child? Favorite memory is a She's like, that's
gonna be hard.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
You know, I can't even answer that. I don't really remember.
I'm old as a child.
Speaker 7 (06:12):
Yep, I get my track, my bass, softball, my I
guess when she went to the All Stars she was
a picture you were, yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Softball, Yeah, she was good too.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
I was a jock.
Speaker 5 (06:25):
I yeah, she did track track. She filled in one
time for somebody who wasn't there or got sick, and
she came in first in every event.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Well, what it is is I ran track, but when
track and field there's things like throw the disc and
high jump and broad jump jumping all that. So they
threw me in because somebody was missing, and I won
them all.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
So let's go back to two thousand and six. You
were watching the show already and Tarma tells you she's
going to be on it once she's actually cast. Do
you think it was a bad idea? Like were you're
like you shouldn't do this or you're like, yeah, let's
go for it.
Speaker 5 (07:03):
No, I said let's go for it.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Just I don't even remember the early days with you
on the show, did you?
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Were you not real often?
Speaker 1 (07:14):
You weren't on it that often in the very beginning, right.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Have you guys always had a close relationship or you
guys do have like ups and downs. My mom will
be next, So no.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
We've always had a close relationship, but we are both
we're a lot alike. We were very uh private, private
into ourselves.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
So it's like my mom lives here at the house,
so we have a casino. We added on a kitchenette
to it, so she's got our own entrance and everything.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
So she comes and.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Goes, and I it'll be two weeks sometimes and I've
never even seen you.
Speaker 5 (07:44):
I'm not even sure your home or not, because if
your car's out there, I assume your home. But if
you were picked up right, you're not here so.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
So I don't see her as much as you would think.
I see her, Yeah, living with us.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
And then do you have a favorite on camera mode
that Tama has done.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
Yeah, I think it's when she threw the wine at Gina.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
And you had a speaking part in that. Do you
remember what it was?
Speaker 5 (08:12):
She says she's gonna throw my skinny ass in the
pool and I told her to leave my daughter alone
or something like that.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
So you were there in that moment.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
She was in the middle of it.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Yeah, she was.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
And what actually happened that made you throw wine? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (08:29):
So I was going through my divorce and Simon was
putting a lot of really negative stories in the press.
He had teamed up with this guy named Alan who
was at Radar, and they were constantly doing these just
nasty stories like you know, Tamra beats Simon and all
these crazy things. And they would always put my kids
in the press whenever they did these stories, and Gina
(08:51):
was always commenting on them, talking to Simon, and so
I kept telling I said, can you please stop every
time you do an interview, and Gina as well was
doing interviews. I said, every time you do it interview,
my kid's face are being all over.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
When you said cyst and deceased.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Yes, sist deceased and uh so I you know, I
was in NAPA with Eddie and I was right for
the season finale and another article came out and Gina
was commenting in it. So I said, this is it.
I called my attorney. I said, what can we do?
He says, well, I can give you know, I write
up a letter of.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Ceased and desist.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
And I said, let's do it. And so I said
do I need somebody to serve her? And they said, well,
well there's more impact on that. And then productions like
no you I told them, I God, I'm doing this.
They're like, no, you do it yourself. So I tried
to give it to her and she wouldn't take it,
and then she said I'm gonna throw your skinny ass
in the pool, and then I can't remember I.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Threw it in her face. He slapped her in the
face with it.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Oh great, hopefully great.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
I don't think I great a piece of paper. It's
not going to hurt her.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Yeah, either doesn't actin Well, how did you feel about
Tamra's bathtub scene with Eddie? He was uncomfortable for me,
what do you mean have you watched all the episodes?
Speaker 3 (10:04):
Like, no, I don't watch them all?
Speaker 2 (10:06):
And did you watch when she was off?
Speaker 3 (10:09):
No?
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Yeah I did not. No. And then let's think what
what other hard questions can I ask? Oh, other than Tamra,
who is your favorite Real Housewives of Orange County? It
can be from the past or at present. It doesn't
matter to me.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Out of all the cast, out of all the casts,
I mean out of.
Speaker 8 (10:31):
That, well, when you think about that, probably none of them.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Well what do you think of me?
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Who I like you?
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Okay, for you, you're one of the few. I've got
one person that likes me, Tamra's mom.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
But this is the most important persons.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Yeah, I mean obviously. Now, oh my god, we're gonna
have to do Mary and No thank you. These are
who you have to pick from.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Okay, Mary, no thank you?
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Slade mm hmmm, Terry, debro or Brooks.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
So who would you marry Slade, Terry Brow or Brooks?
Speaker 5 (11:16):
I marry Terry. Everybody needs a plastic surgeon in the family.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Okay, Okay, So you're gonna what are the other two?
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Slade and Brooks?
Speaker 3 (11:27):
No thank you? No, thank you?
Speaker 2 (11:29):
You don't get to do double note.
Speaker 9 (11:30):
Thanks.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
You gotta one of them, but you gotta pick which
one you're gonna.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Oh, not the one I'm gonna marry.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
No, Well, yeah you can't.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
So you're either gonna f Slade or you're gonna f Brooks.
I heard Brooks, Big Brooks.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Brooks.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
That's tough. That's a tough one. I don't think. I
think I would have to marry I'm opposite that you.
I'd have to marry Terry. Even though Teddy and Harry
as a couple is the worst combination of two names.
I'd have to f Slade and say no thank you
to Broox.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Yeah, I mean the other two are really they're really bad,
really bad.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
And then who if you were going to be a
permanent fixture and you got yourself your own orange, what
would your tagline be?
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Well, we just happened to have an orange right here.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
Okay. You know, although I've dated a lot of Franks,
but let's be Frank. I am the star of the show.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Although I've dated a lot of Franks. Three three Francs.
What's it with Franks?
Speaker 3 (12:45):
I don't know, it's just the age. I think that's
kind of a common name.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Well, her dad's your age, John Mellencamp. Would you date him?
Speaker 2 (12:54):
You know what? We could be sisters, We could be
I mean, you better. It's better than when we thought
you were going to be my mother in law, right,
not my mother in law, my mother, mother, my mother.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
I am your mother.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
I am your mother. I know we said you don't
have a favorite, oh Sea housewife, but who's your least favorite?
Speaker 4 (13:17):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (13:17):
All of them?
Speaker 4 (13:17):
But you.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
And my daughter. Of course.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
She gets annoyed with them, Yeah I do, But like,
but don't you get annoyed with me? Like when you
watch the show, are you like, oh.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
God, really?
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Or are you like, thank god she did that? No?
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Usually it's why does she keep arguing with people?
Speaker 1 (13:39):
But don't don't you guys ever argue not verbally?
Speaker 3 (13:42):
We don't. We we argue silently.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
We're silent.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Yeah, oh you just you're both just for you'd rather
just walk away.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
We just brush it under the ruck and then it
goes away. Eventually it goes away. But I don't.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
I mean, I can't think of a time where I'm like,
I didn't talk to my mom because she kissed me off.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
And if if you could take somebody's orange and make
it your own. Who would it be?
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Oh? Heathered debros Hey.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Next, and then do you think that Tamar has made
any true real friendships on this show?
Speaker 3 (14:20):
Possibly?
Speaker 1 (14:20):
You, but she's not on the okay, on the show
that you're on.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
No, and I don't appreciate the possibly.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Have to put a little disclaimer in there, you know,
Oh my god. Yeah, my mom's not the overly emotional,
touchy Philly. She's a lot like me, or I'm a
lot like her. We're cold, we're cold people. We have
hearts advice. So like if we're having a party or
(14:52):
people are over, we're like, where's Mom? Oh, she left,
she's gone.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
There was.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
She doesn't believe in.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
A I hate goodbyes. I hate goodbye.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Irish Is that what they call it?
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Yeah, Irish goodbyes. I love an Irish goodbye.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Yeah, so we'll be This is before she lived with us,
because even now when she lives, we's mom. She's gone mom.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
And then will you guys spend Mother's Day together?
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Well, this might be a good time for me to
tell you that I'm leaving town.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
I was going to say, if she's going to be
in town, yes, if not, it's okay.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
So will you hang out with one of the Franks?
Speaker 3 (15:30):
Hell?
Speaker 1 (15:31):
No, Now she's got a David.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Yeah, David. The Franks was a long time ago.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Now finally moved on to a David.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
David.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
How long have you guys been together?
Speaker 3 (15:41):
About a year? In three months?
Speaker 2 (15:43):
About three months and two days.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Do you think you're going to get married?
Speaker 3 (15:47):
No, I'll never get married again?
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Or is he going to move in with you?
Speaker 10 (15:50):
Not?
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Here?
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Are you going to move to your house in Arizona?
Speaker 5 (15:53):
I'm thinking we will eventually on eventually?
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Why you want to rent out the casito?
Speaker 2 (15:59):
I need a place to stay when I go to
the horse shows. I need to get out of there. Okay, Well,
but also I have to say now that I'm seeing
this picture of you two. Yeah, like I thought you
were still going to have this haircut, and what's happened?
You look so young?
Speaker 3 (16:20):
COVID happened?
Speaker 2 (16:21):
But you have long hair and you look like you
guys could be sisters.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Oh good, what we could be.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
We're only seventeen years apart. Eighteen years seventeen something like that.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Oh you are, so you had Tamar when you were
seventeen and then Tamar? How old were you when you
had your first eighteen so how'd you feel when she
got pregnant so young?
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Can you tell the story, please?
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Bullet points.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
We were I was at school, Sharon was at home.
My boyfriend in high school was a year older than me,
so you had.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Already graduated, already out school, and he was at our.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
House a lot, so it wasn't uncommon for him to.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Be at the house waiting for her to come home.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Waiting for me to come home. So he was there
with my mom and go ahead.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
You, I thank you. I asked him, Are is she pregnant?
You asked him yes, because.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
The Wigee board, that's what it was. We were doing
the Ouiji board in the Wow.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
Yes, it's Tamra pregnant.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
And that's how I have a mom. So we were
doing a wigie board like a week prior, and it
kept spelling out baby, baby, baby, and I'm like, oh god,
I started to get a little nervous, and and then
I think it said who and it pointed at me,
and we're like laughed it off and laughed it off.
And then Darren was at my house and I was
coming home from school. I walk into my mom looking
(17:45):
at me, crying and going, I'm too young to be
a grand mother.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
But then let's tell him what happened.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
And then I looked at Darrel, I'm like, you idiot,
why would you go and do that?
Speaker 2 (17:55):
He told her, So he told her without you even
being there, And.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
I wasn't gonna tell her. I wasn't even sure I
was going to have it.
Speaker 5 (18:03):
Well, we went to Planned Parenthood and while we're going up,
there was one of the picketers were there and the yelling,
we can help you with this baby.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
I turned around, we're keeping the baby and we walked out.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Yeah, so you never even went in and that baby
was Ryan.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (18:18):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (18:19):
And did you marry Darren?
Speaker 1 (18:20):
I did?
Speaker 4 (18:22):
I did.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Did you like Darren?
Speaker 9 (18:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (18:24):
I like Darren.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Yeah he was nice.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
He's a nice kid.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Well it's not kid anymore.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
How long were you guys married?
Speaker 3 (18:31):
Not very long.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
We were probably together about seven years, but only married
a few years.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Well that's a pretty good amount of time.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Yeah, yeah, I mean a lot of it was. It
took us a while to get divorced, but I think
by the time Ryan was probably two years old, we
were we were.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
Separated, Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
And I moved back in with my mom. Right, Yeah,
then I've moved up. Then I moved back in.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Then I moved up.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
So you guys live together quite often.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Yes, now in my older age, I move in with her,
I move out.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
I moved back in.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Yeah, and she would live with my brother for a
little bit.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
But TAM's your favorite kid to live with? Is she
your favorite in general?
Speaker 3 (19:14):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (19:15):
No, I'm not going to say that. Yes, all of
my kids are my favorite. No, they're not.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
I you, I got you to do it.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
My favorite kid is Ryan.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
That's the truth.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
That is the truth.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
We would get into a fight. It was when Ryan
was younger, and I felt like she was enabling him
because it was oh poor Ryan, he'd get in trouble.
Oh Ryan, it's okay, It's okay. So yeah, but not anymore,
not anymore. She actually has ava every Thursday.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
Now, she's my favorite.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
She's here now.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Yeah, Well we've got my mom in the waiting room,
so Tam, you can have at her. So should we
bring in Vicky.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
Any off limits? Uestian's Teddy?
Speaker 2 (20:03):
I don't think so. I think it's all pretty I
think I'm a pretty open book until we hear her
start talking.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
Okay, what.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
So Mom, you're on with Sandy and Tamera.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Hi, Viki, how are you?
Speaker 4 (20:32):
I'm good now.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Recently, recently Teddy told us that you had taken a
little fall at work, and there's so many supporters on
Instagram that were really like worried and rooting for you.
How are you feeling now?
Speaker 9 (20:47):
I am feeling a lot better. I fell on October first,
and my eye, the sixth nerve that controls the eyes,
is what was damaged, and it's They told me that
I needed to be I needed to use a lot
of patients, that it would be nine months to a
year before the nerve regenerated, and I told them at
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the time, I don't even know how to spell patients. Oh, Peter,
do I Now I've now crossed over the seven and
a half month mark, and where is my eye? Laid
at seventy five percent cross eye? The right eye late
seventy five percent cross eyed.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
When it was resting until the six month mark.
Speaker 9 (21:33):
Then it jumped to forty and now I'm at twelve percent.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Oh, you're getting better.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Yeah, it's you.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Great progress, great progress, that's awesome.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
I'm excited.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
So I need to know this is a million dollar question.
What was Teddy's like as a child? How was she?
Was she obedient?
Speaker 3 (21:53):
Was she a wild child? What was she like?
Speaker 9 (21:58):
She was not a trouble maker. He was a trouble
of voiter. Okay, So when you say obedient, sometimes, especially
in the teen years, if you'd say, well, Teddy's sure
you could have some friends over as long as you
promised to stay.
Speaker 4 (22:17):
If they all get ready to leave.
Speaker 9 (22:18):
Don't leave with them and help me clean the house.
You'd go, okay, mom, I promise, And then pretty soon
I'd be looking around and I couldn't find Teddy. She
was one of the first. She was one of the
first ones to go. But other than that, I mean,
of course I have to come up with something to
embarrass her, and that's as good as I can get.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
But she was.
Speaker 9 (22:41):
He was so dedicated and so committed to her writings
and you know, her equestrian activities, that she literally would
live at the barn. There were times I wondered if
I had a daughter named Teddy because I had seen
her for a few days.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
Do you think that dedication you writing kept her out
of trouble?
Speaker 4 (23:03):
I do think it did. I do think it.
Speaker 9 (23:05):
Did? You know there were a lot of things that
she passed on because there was a horse show coming
up and she wanted to, you know, put in the
practice and put in the hours that she needed to
on that instead. And then I think she just knuck
a little bit of trouble in here and there she did.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
But I know this is no shock to you, no surprise.
Teddy is a type a personality, right. Was she always outspoken?
Speaker 9 (23:36):
I think Teddy was always She was always a performer.
Speaker 4 (23:40):
She would always.
Speaker 9 (23:41):
Perform things and keep keep the room laughing. And she
wanted to please people, and not in.
Speaker 10 (23:49):
A bad way.
Speaker 9 (23:49):
She preferred to keep things light and keep things entertaining.
And I was more of an emotional person, and I
think that's why sometimes her and I got a little
goofy because I'd want to talk about feelings and she'd
just want to do a dance.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
I did not have any interest. There's things I have
no interest in. Phone calls, feelings, hugs, yep, yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Pats on the back. Yeah. Teddy and I are a
lot alike in that sense, like we don't like to
talk about feelings. That's why we have a really great friendship.
Speaker 9 (24:30):
Can I use this opportunity to sneak one in since
I've got back up. Oh God, yep, I want to
I just want to say, forty two years ago, my
father called me on Mother's Day and said Happy Mother's Day,
and I was pregnant with Teddy. She came about six
weeks later, and I literally sat in the chair that
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I was sitting in and realized, for the first time
in my life, I could celebrate Mother's Day because.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
I did not have that as a as a child.
Speaker 9 (25:03):
And it's been like.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
That ever since.
Speaker 9 (25:05):
Okay, there, now I've said the emotional stuff and I've
got it out.
Speaker 4 (25:09):
Well.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
Mom, I think you're three for three with Sandy and Tam.
Were you pregnant with me when you were eighteen?
Speaker 4 (25:17):
Towo? No?
Speaker 3 (25:20):
How old were you?
Speaker 4 (25:20):
I was twenty?
Speaker 9 (25:21):
I was twenty one or twenty two when you were born?
Twenty two when you were born?
Speaker 2 (25:25):
But then when'd you marry Dad.
Speaker 4 (25:27):
That same year?
Speaker 9 (25:28):
But I lived with him for two years prior.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
To you being Okay, so you are a teen, then
I was.
Speaker 9 (25:33):
I met your dad when I was nineteen.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
At the Rainbow Room.
Speaker 9 (25:38):
No, at a dinner at a restaurant.
Speaker 4 (25:41):
I think it was.
Speaker 9 (25:43):
Dantana's or yeah, I think it was Dantana's.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
Oh yeah it was.
Speaker 9 (25:48):
It was a secret blind date.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
Wow, well a secret because he was still married.
Speaker 9 (25:54):
Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 10 (25:57):
I didn't find that.
Speaker 4 (25:57):
I didn't find that out for a few months either.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
But then you drove Indiana and your and yeah, what
was that a v W buss?
Speaker 9 (26:06):
No, but Chevy love truck with partial Yeah, so fine,
it's fine.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
What was it like being married to John Mellencamp.
Speaker 9 (26:19):
When I married John? You know, because I grew up
out there in California when I met him, the thing
that actually endeared me to him was he wasn't all
and I don't mean to be offensive in any way,
but he wasn't all sunglasses and you know.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
Dinner reservation.
Speaker 9 (26:36):
He was this Indiana boy, and we had enough of
that lifestyle intermingled with the beginning of his career that
that's that's that was.
Speaker 10 (26:48):
A good part.
Speaker 9 (26:49):
Those were the good years, really good years.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
He's he was a lot of fun.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
There we go, She's like, and that's where we're gonna
end it, right to the what did you think Teddy
would grow up to be?
Speaker 9 (27:05):
I thought she'd be an equestri in her whole life
and she still kind of is, isn't she.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
Yeah, Yeah, did you think that she would get into
the entertainment business at all?
Speaker 10 (27:15):
I didn't.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
I didn't, you know what.
Speaker 9 (27:17):
I didn't see it coming. And when Teddy was making
plans to move to Los Angeles, I was the last
one to find out. And I look back on that
now and I realized that was probably Teddy's way of
avoiding an emotional situation, because I probably would have been
begging her not to do that, you know, just like then,
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we'll stick with the horses, you.
Speaker 4 (27:41):
Know, we'll sell the house. Let's do what we could do.
But that would have been.
Speaker 9 (27:46):
Holding her down and holding her back, and she wasn't
about to let anyone do that, you know. So I'm
proud of what she's done.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
Others, Yeah, she's done a lot, and she's probably, i mean,
the most driven girl besides myself that I know. Like
she that's I mean, we have a lot of things
in common, but that's one of it. She she doesn't
have to work as hard as she does, and she
does all the time.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
And I admire that.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
I know.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Now, I have heard Teddy sing many times, and I
constantly tell her you have a great voice. Did you
ever think that she was going to pursue pursue a
career in the music industry.
Speaker 9 (28:25):
When she did that demo of it, she did yeah
and was and was interested in it. I understood why
she would be. I mean, she grew up in recording
studios and on the side of the stage with you know,
with her little sister too, and I understood it. But
I think if I would have had any any emotions
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on it, it would have been I would have worried
that she would have had a really tough row to,
you know, to hope with people judging her on writing
on her father's shirt tails and says like that that
mayor you know that that.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
I now read some of her Instagram stuff and think what.
Speaker 9 (29:08):
I don't know why I would have ever thought that, But.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
Do you so, do you go into Teddy's Instagram and
read messages because my view, okay, okay, that's my question, Teddy. So,
my mom in the past has done that, and she's
got into arguments with fans that are saying not so
nice things about me. Have you done that?
Speaker 4 (29:29):
Yes, yes, I have done it.
Speaker 9 (29:32):
Teddy has has forbidden me to do it anymore.
Speaker 4 (29:35):
But I did just I.
Speaker 9 (29:37):
Did just get into a little nappy with somebody. But
it wasn't on Teddy's Instagram. It was on John Mellencamp's
fan page, where people were criticizing the way Teddy.
Speaker 4 (29:48):
And John were posed in a picture.
Speaker 9 (29:51):
And I got very I got very angry, wow, and
I deleted. I deleted it.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
Oh so you're posting delete person? Okay, okay.
Speaker 9 (30:02):
I posted it, left it there for three days. The
administrator called and apologized profusely, and I thought, okay.
Speaker 4 (30:09):
Enough for that, and I took it off.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
Well, you know what, if my daughter was on TV,
I think that I would probably do the same thing.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
I would.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
I think that I would make comments, especially when people
are so mean on Instagram or on social media in general.
It's really hard to watch that, and Teddy gets them
and we all get our hate, but Teddy Teddy gets
some a fair share, which I don't understand at all.
A lot of people don't. But that post that was
done with you and your dad, somebody recently posted it.
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I think it was reality blurb, and so I started
reading the comments because I saw nothing wrong with that picture.
So Mom Teddy took a picture with her dad. Teddy
explained that she had a he had a white t
shirt on and he didn't feel like dressy enough or something,
so she put her leg up trying to block him.
And people are like, that's an inappropriate picture your father.
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But you weren't happening your father, you know, the debt
perception with cameras is hard to see. It's like your
leg was wrapped around him. But a lot of the
people were in support of you, Teddy, and they were saying,
this is ridiculous. That's her dad. You guys, if you're
thinking that, then that's your problem. That's a you problem.
Speaker 8 (31:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
And also and not for nothing.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
Yeah, I did think, oh gosh, that is gonna look
a little funny. But there was no way I would
get another picture with my dad.
Speaker 4 (31:27):
Mom.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
How much does dad like taking pictures?
Speaker 4 (31:30):
Yeah, come on, take another one, dad.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
She would have been like, golf yourself. I just took one,
my bellies not showing we looked good. There's absolutely no
way I'm getting another picture. So they're just gonna have
to deal with that, because I like, my mom just
came and we took nice pictures together. I like to
have photos because I don't know if Mom am I
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allowed to share this, but we we had some like
financial hardships growing up, and my mom had a storage unit,
and inside that storage unit, we're all am I saying
this right, Mom, all of our photo albums and all
of our well.
Speaker 9 (32:11):
I still have a lot of photo albums, but yes,
there were a lot of your childhood.
Speaker 4 (32:16):
Things in there.
Speaker 9 (32:17):
And it was a scam artist that they came in
and closed down the storage unit and sold off all
my stuff.
Speaker 4 (32:24):
So I had the opportunity to.
Speaker 9 (32:27):
Buy it back, but at that time, financially, I was
not set up to do that. So I said, have
fun with all that, with all those moldy because I
never threw anything away when my kids were growing up.
Speaker 4 (32:43):
So yeah, if I had a place to store it,
I stored it.
Speaker 9 (32:45):
And I think I had every single piece of Teddy's
artwork from the time she was in Montessori school to
senior in high school. You know, so all that's out
there somewhere.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
That's a bomber because you can't replace those. Now, when
you found out Teddy is going to be on the
Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, what was your initial reaction?
Were you for it or against it? Are scared?
Speaker 4 (33:12):
Well?
Speaker 9 (33:12):
My initial reaction because I kind of I mean, I
remember Marathon watching what was that Top Top Model you
and I'd been.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
Oh, yeah, America, because I always love the competition shows
like America's Next Top Model, American Idol, Bachelor, those types
of shows.
Speaker 9 (33:28):
So I don't know that I was, you know, one
schooled on the Real Housewives franchise or you know those shows.
So when I first heard about it, I then watched
a few episodes because some of my friends and some
of my customers in the restaurant I worked at at
the time were telling me how excited they were that
Teddy was going to be on the show and it's
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their favorite show, and so I then started watching it.
Then my initial reaction.
Speaker 4 (33:57):
Was, oh god, oh god, yeah, I bet this.
Speaker 10 (34:04):
Is gonna be scary.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
Is there any moment on the show that you watched
her that you were like, Oh, Teddy, why did you
do that?
Speaker 9 (34:22):
Not really, not really, I think you know it's it's
she's she's a grown woman, but she's my little girl,
you know. And I'm sure there were parts where I
knew the vultures were going.
Speaker 4 (34:36):
To come out because of.
Speaker 9 (34:37):
Something said or done, and I'd be like, oh god, Jeddy,
oh what was the one Molisa you know I was
worried about Molisa showing up and.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
Oh that was that. When I was younger, my alter,
my mean alter ego was Mosha.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
And everyone have a mean alter ego.
Speaker 9 (34:58):
Uh huh.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
Everybody would be like, oh, no, so Mo's coming out,
and I'm.
Speaker 6 (35:01):
Like, if MO was mean as a snake, oh great,
But I never I was never.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
Mo on the show.
Speaker 9 (35:14):
No, I know. And I did watch every episode that
Teddy was in I dB artist, and I would always say, oh,
I'll watch it tomorrow during the day when I can wait.
Speaker 4 (35:25):
No, I didn't.
Speaker 9 (35:26):
If it didn't matter if I got home at eleven
thirty at night or whatever, I'd still get through the
episode before going to bed.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
So yeah, if if Bravo was to have a Real
Mom's of Housewives, how can I say that the Real
Housewife Moms?
Speaker 2 (35:46):
Let's say that.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
So if Bravo was to have a show called the
Real Moms of the Housewives, let's say it's an Ultimate
Girls trip and they take some of the most iconic
moms on the show, put them in an island or
some fancy hotel. Would you guys sign up for that?
Speaker 3 (36:02):
I would?
Speaker 9 (36:03):
I would have. I would if I could do the
all in my teddy for about six months ahead of time.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
I think that would be a great idea.
Speaker 4 (36:15):
I got some work to do. All this patience has
put on the pounds a little bit.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
We actually were supposed to my mom never filmed with me.
We were supposed to film together. I was going to
go back to Hilton Head where I grew up, and
they were going to film my baby shower, and we
were going to meet my mom and my sister. Because
you have to realize they never saw any of my family.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
I know, and.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
My mom has bipolar disorder, and producers knew that, and
they wanted us to talk about it, and my mom
had agreed to it. I had agreed to it. We
thought that it would be a good way to bring
awareness to it because we didn't realize that she had
it for a really long time. And then actually my
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dad stepped in and said, I think this is a
bad idea, you guys. I think that's too personal of
stuff to share. And and then yeah, I got.
Speaker 9 (37:09):
I got the I got the phone call from John
and he said, VICKI there, you know you don't need this,
and I went, yeah, maybe I don't.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
So yeah, now, looking back, do you wish you would have,
You know, No, I don't.
Speaker 9 (37:26):
I don't look at I don't look at it as
a terrible missed opportunity. I may not have been at
the time, and yeah, it could have been fun and
I missed, you know, I miss out any opportunity. I
miss out on being with Teddy and her and her
kids and Needlin. You know, I pine over for a
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moment or two or more.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
But uh, but she's learned to stop being emotional with
me about it, which is good.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
Now you have if you were diagnosed with a bipologist
and Teddy has been diagnosed with OCD, do you guys
talk about mental health to each other.
Speaker 9 (38:08):
I probably don't talk to Teddy much about it because
A she'd have to talk on the phone, be it
probably get emotional. She doesn't want that, and she I
don't know how much she'd want to hear from me
on the topic, knowing some of my ups and downs
over the years. And I don't know if it would
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feel like, really, mom, you're talking to me about this.
Speaker 3 (38:34):
So yeah, but I.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
Feel like she can learn from you, like my mom
grew up. My grandmother was schizophrenic and she was hospitalized
for for many many years and knowing that, I mean,
she was a fabulous grandmother. Fabulous and you know, my
mom had she had my mom later in life, and
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my grandmother was back then, you know, they put him
in the mental hospital and gave him shocked he ments
things like that. So she go without her mom around
most of the time. She was raised by her older sister.
And for me, you know, I knew that at a
young age and love my grandmother. Always worried for my kids.
Is this something that's gonna because they say sometimes it
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skips a generation. And now I have one daughter that
has OCD and bad anxiety and things like that. And
I just feel like mental health today, before it was
just kept so quiet and we never talked about it.
And I think that the more we talk about it
and make it public, people will feel, you know, they
will relate to that and feel at home and feel like,
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you know what, I'm not the only one in this
world dealing with it.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
And I think that when my mom and I are
the closest, And I think that something people don't often
talk about when it comes to mental health is when
you're feeling good and you're you know, you've been medicated
and you're in therapy and things are good, then all
of a sudden you think I don't need to be
on the medication anymore, I don't need to be going
to therapy, or I don't need to be doing these things.
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And I've done the same thing with me, you know,
with my anxiety. And so for me, my big priority
for my mom and for our relationship is that she
stays consistent on what's making her feel the best and
and and the times that she hasn't, that's where and
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because I'm not great at sharing my feelings instead of
telling her like I love you, and that scares me,
and you know, I want you to do this because
I want you to feel good. I then just get
kind of mean, like I pull away, like my way
of not stern, but stern, like I just am like, fine,
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if you're not gonna, if you're going to go off
the medication, then I'm not talking to you. Like I'm
very and I regret some of you know, I'm in
therapy myself, and I regret some.
Speaker 4 (40:54):
You know.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
When Mom had her fall and then she got really
sick afterwards too, I was like, holy ship, like you're
a mess. I was such a mess. And I was like,
there are times that like I could have been there
for my mom and been more loving towards her and
more understanding to how she was feeling, and I just
refused because I was stubborn.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
I think also the distance of dream you guys too,
you not being able to see her all the time
to you know, physically check out. Yeah, that's got to
be hard.
Speaker 4 (41:26):
Now.
Speaker 1 (41:26):
I know we're running in time. But there's been a
lot of request for your special pounded chicken recipe if.
Speaker 9 (41:35):
I were to make that public, and he wouldn't flend
me up to California again because.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
Now you have to tell them it is so good,
But you have to tell them the specifics because I
am such a weirdo about chicken. I like, I will
never eat chicken out ever. At Like, I have major
issues surrounding chicken. The dirty it's dirty.
Speaker 4 (41:56):
Yes, yeah, but I'll tell you real quick. You get that.
Speaker 9 (41:59):
You get the chicken tender You know that, the packets
that's boneless, and it's like the tenderlin, the tenderloins, whatever
you take them up, you cut it. You make sure
that they're all somewhat similar in size, otherwise they don't
cook up right, you pound them out with.
Speaker 4 (42:15):
Wax paper like I put wax.
Speaker 9 (42:17):
Paper underneath it on top, and pound them out to
very thin, thin, thin cutlets. Now, if Teddy's eating at
your house, you then get a very sharp knife and
make sure you've removed any blood, vessels or veins or
in the newly parts of the chicken, because if Teddy
bites into something like that.
Speaker 4 (42:38):
It's over, okay.
Speaker 9 (42:40):
So then you I refrige, I refrigerator them overnight, you
have to. That helps with the process, I believe. Then
the next day, in an egg milk bath, you know,
dip each one, then roll it and pack it full
of of you know, real a thick coating of progressive
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Italian seasoning.
Speaker 2 (43:04):
It's very healthy all in, but I can't.
Speaker 1 (43:08):
And then again, if you fry it for Teddy's all in,
do you fry it or bacon?
Speaker 9 (43:15):
Well, that's for Teddy's all in family. I'm sorry, but
this is the one one thing she does is.
Speaker 4 (43:22):
Enjoyed this meal.
Speaker 9 (43:23):
Once in a while, I fry it.
Speaker 2 (43:25):
And then mashed potatoes, green bean potatoes or asparagus.
Speaker 9 (43:31):
Asparagus is always a good one.
Speaker 4 (43:33):
And then it's some big caesar salad.
Speaker 9 (43:35):
A huge caeesar salad and lots of lemon. Lots of lemon.
You squeeze lots of lemon on your cutlets.
Speaker 3 (43:42):
Oh, I love that.
Speaker 1 (43:42):
And your recent trip to Los Angeles to stave Teddy.
You made that meal, right, I did.
Speaker 4 (43:49):
I made thirty eight pieces of chicken.
Speaker 2 (43:51):
It's a non negotiable. If she's coming, we're having that meal.
And my husband's obsessed with that, my kids are obsessed
with that. It's like and I don't know, I just
that meal gives me comfort because like when I was little,
I was such a picky eater that my mom would
sit down and I'd say, I am not eating that,
Like if if there was fish in it, if there's this,
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I was like, I don't want it. So she would
put down this cow's tongue and what was the other thing, Mom,
cow's tongue and paste, and she would set it on
the table in front of me and she'd go, you're
either going to try what I cooked for dinner or
you're going to eat that. And I would just sit
at the table for hours.
Speaker 1 (44:33):
Well, my mom used to try. My mom and dad
used trying to make me eat peas to this day,
will not eat peas. I can't even stand the smell
of them. And then she'd always make me do the dishes,
which to this day I hate doing the dishes. But
my dad liked weird food. My dad liked frog's legs.
Speaker 3 (44:54):
Yes, rabbit, fried rabbit, fried rabbit.
Speaker 5 (44:58):
I mean one time we had boxtails and beans, just
oh yum.
Speaker 1 (45:05):
And then one time we got stuck with these chickens
in our backyard and they were mean. I think they're
roosters right there. They were mean. They would like, we
run to the place at and they'd come and scratch us.
So my dad one day got the axe and snapped
their head off. Oh then cook dumb, cooked dumb, and
(45:27):
they were tough.
Speaker 3 (45:28):
They were tough.
Speaker 2 (45:29):
And I'm like, well, mom, and clothing, you have to
tell the story of when I became a vegetarian.
Speaker 4 (45:37):
Oh yes, okay.
Speaker 9 (45:38):
So Teddy's dad and I are sitting at the kitchen table.
Teddy's in the other room. She's watching Nicky Mouser side.
Speaker 4 (45:46):
Remember the baby cants.
Speaker 9 (45:48):
Yeah, the Mouser size exercise program and that girl wore
the little wrist bracelets, the headband, the ankle socks, all
squished down.
Speaker 4 (45:59):
Whatever.
Speaker 9 (46:00):
So Teddy had the whole outfit on and was in
the other room mouseur sizing.
Speaker 1 (46:04):
And she's still mouseizing to this day.
Speaker 4 (46:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (46:08):
Well, she comes struttened by John and I and she
had attitudes. She had the little butt going and walking
straight over to the big sub zero fridge that she
could barely open, and she opens it up, and she
had previously told me that she was a vegetarian from
now on, right, But then she walks right past us,
(46:30):
patting her brow with her little ankle band like because
she's worked up such a sweat moutracizing, and she opens
up the refrigerator and pulls out a slice of blowney
Oscar Meyer bologney. Okay, rolls it up and is taking
bites of it.
Speaker 4 (46:47):
As she walks back by us, and John looks at
me and goes, I thought she said she was a vegetarian.
Now she did, And so then she.
Speaker 9 (46:57):
Comes back through about ten minutes later, it starts to
walk by us again, and she opens up the fridge again,
opens up the deli drawer, pulls out another slice of balogney,
and John Listener goes, hey, Teddy, how's that vegetarian thing
working out for you?
Speaker 4 (47:14):
And she said pretty good.
Speaker 10 (47:16):
I like to be a vegetarian.
Speaker 4 (47:18):
Walks away e.
Speaker 3 (47:23):
God so pretty much.
Speaker 2 (47:24):
I've always been full of ship.
Speaker 1 (47:28):
Yeah, sounds about right.
Speaker 2 (47:31):
Well, thank you guys, Thank you mom so much for
joining us.
Speaker 1 (47:35):
Yes, and Happy Mother's Day.
Speaker 2 (47:36):
Happy Mother's Day, you guys, thank you, thank.
Speaker 9 (47:39):
You, Happy Mother's Thank you to all.
Speaker 1 (47:42):
Of you, all of
Speaker 2 (47:48):
Yours all right, bye bye
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