June 7, 2023 • 38 mins
RHONJ Reunion Part 2 was even messier than the first!
Nobody is taking ownership, especially Teresa, who is playing the blame game on everyone else. We are OVER it.
And, what is with those prank calls? Was it a set up with Margaret’s son? They happen more often than you think in the Housewife universe, and the Twots explain why.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Two teas in a pod with Teddy Mellencamp and Camra.
Judge just got finished watching Jersey.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
What a shit show that was.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
I mean the level of shit show. I mean, first
and foremost, we need to talk about how Andy has
officially met his impatient parent era Teresa and Melissa, for sure.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
But first, I mean starting out with Teresa still in denial,
still in denial to everybody's fault. She was put in
She wasn't put in jail, she was put in prison,
federal prison. And I mean, Sweetie, it was your husband.
It wasn't Melissa, it wasn't Caroline, it wasn't Joey. It
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was your husband, and you you signed.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Here's that everybody needs to be very clear about.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
If you are in the public eye in any capacity anything,
any sort of breaking the law or taxes or whatever
it may be, they are going to take additional time
to look into you.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Yeah, so here's the thing. Pay your taxes and you
won't have a red flag on your ass.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
And also, I don't know, I just feel like the
continuous discussion over I mean, how many years ago was that.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Well, here's the thing, if that was me, which it
would never be me. If it was, and it was
brought up. I would take full ownership of it and say,
you're right. I did something stupid. I signed papers I
didn't look at and I went to prison. It was
my husband's fault, it was my fault. I was stupid
not to read it into story. Stop blaming people.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
And then I saw which I sent over this morning.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
That now Joe Judice you houside New Jersey. Joe Judice
supports ex wife Teresa Judaice claimed that her brother Joe
Gorga and sister in law Melissa Gorga, helped land the
two of them behind bars almost a decade ago. They
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came on the show. They were very good friends with
my ex partner's attorney, which went to the FEDS, which
I think Melissa and Joe were involved, Joe alleged on
Monday's episode of Behind the Velvet Rope. Okay, one, Joe,
you're the one that actually did it, regardless, like let
it to me. It doesn't matter who it is that
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went to the Feds. I think the Feds were also
already involved. But then did you catch when Teresa said,
we know because we talked to the Feds, I'm sure, Oh, yes,
that arrested. You also let you know who the informant was.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Yes, and the interrogation they tipped me off. Okay, Teresa, Okay,
I mean, for the love of God, just stop. Stop Teresa.
You did something wrong, you went to prison. End it
right there. Take response.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
You're a number to get in touch with the Feds,
like one eight hundred. Call your FED friend like.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
There is if you go to the web website, there
is a tip area where you can throw in tips.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Oh do you check this out?
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Yeah? No, I know that I have a friend that
was a federal agent.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
So, oh is his name? Bo Dieetle?
Speaker 2 (03:35):
No, No, I'm tired and a very good guy.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
But Teresa, yeah, who knows.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
But Teresa bring up things from ten years ago, like
a guilty child trying to get the heat off of them.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Okay, so then you know we start we kind of
break it down.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Melissa reads the text that Jackie got from Jacqueline Lorita,
which also I checked was from twenty twenty one.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Yeah, and by the way, there's a lot more text
than just what she read. I was sent all of
the text messages. They're all pretty nasty. But my problem is,
my concern is why did Dolores go, this is bad.
You're going down like under her breath. Like, why because Melissa,
I mean, everybody plays dirty on that cast, like Teresa's
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played dirty this entire time. Why is it so bad
that Melissa read this?
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Well? I think, I mean the problem that I had
with the text is ninety percent of what she said
was about her looks. Yeah, and I here's the thing,
like I mean to even say, uh, okay, I know
I shouldn't care about her arrogance voice and the fact
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that she gets away with way too much after being
a nasty asshole bothers me. She's a low life trash bucket.
She's stupid but also very calculating. Even with two facelifts,
I lift, nose jobs, shaved forehead, botox fillers, and new boobs,
she is still so ugly. I just think I mean it. Yeah,
I mean, we have six additional texts that we're not
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reading because it's unnecessary.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Do you think they're still friends?
Speaker 3 (05:21):
I think all of it is.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Now. I'm getting to the point where I'm like, is
Jacqueline in a situation where she's wanting to be back
in the mix of the spotlight again?
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Well, I talked to her, and she says, no, she
does not want to be on the show. She does
not want She's even moved to Orange County. Since she
does not want to be on Orange County, she has
moved on. But I mean, they have deep rooted shit
going on in that cast, and they were friends for
a very long time. I would have liked to see
Jackie read these texts instead of Melissa.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
That's what I was Yeah. Also the fact that Jackie
wasn't there to read the text or even explain the
context of why Jackie and Jacqueline were talking about it.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Do you remember was Jackie on the couch when the
this is brought up?
Speaker 1 (06:08):
She wasn't. Now I don't think so, right, But also
we had to remember this is probably if it's twenty
twenty one.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
I'm just guessing. I'm not the best at math, as
we know, but Jackie, I'm assuming this is after Jackie.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Outed that Evan allegedly had an affair by Teresa, so
she was probably mad at Teresa and texting with Jacqueline.
And if you guys.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Think these text messages don't go on between friends when
you're in a cast like this and you get pissed off,
they happen.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
They do, they happen, you.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
Will find shitty, shitty things.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
But I don't know. I just felt like it was
Melissa reading Jacqueline's text was a little bit off to me. Now, Mistay, I.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Just want to say this now, mis stay your asshole.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
And then but then Teresa's like, yeah, and then I'll
get this up your asshole too.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
I was like yeah, and then and then, I mean
they were what they were saying back and forth was
hilarious because it was so stupid. And then she's like, yeah, now,
mis stay my asshole. I was like, nobody's touching my asshole.
I don't care how I now, Mistay you are.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
I was looking at, you know, a couple of different things.
I was really trying to keep an open mind watching this.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
Yeah, but what I didn't understand is like they just
didn't stop. And at this point, it's there's nothing interesting
to say between the two of them anymore.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
They're just going at it, but there's there's not even
anything to discuss that hasn't been discussed one million times.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Well, you could tell by Andy's face he was completely
over it.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Also annoyed at Janada, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
He was, even though even though she tried to kiss
his ass and tell me he had big dick energy,
and I felt.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Like a I feel like she took notes before the
reunion and then used her a couple of one liners,
but they didn't hit for me. But I did. I
thought that Melissa, I mean, I thought that Marge handled
all that pretty well. But I know we're jumping all
over the place.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
I know, but it's just so much to talk about.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Okay. So then the next part is Rachel says Jaden's
birth mom was contacted because Louie had someone track her down. Says,
it makes sense Louie yelled bo diedle knows things. Teresa
says Margaret pulls dirt on people but doesn't have money
to hire a PI, which please. And then Melissa tells
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Teresa that her first scene this season with Margaret was
fake and wanted her storyline to be no mistake. Okay,
do you what did you actually think of that makeup
with Marche I thought it was bullshit too.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Yeah, it was a little bullshit, But you know what,
sometimes we need to have those little makeups so we
can move on because some of these storylines are just
they need to put a pin in it. And even
though there's not truly a pin in it, they need
to move on for the sake of the show.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
True. Okay, then we get to jen Aiden says she
called Melissa and told her about the cheating rumor. This
part had me floored. I know that jen Aiden is
playing producer, because.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
It wasn't it so evident that she was playing producer
her whole fact, Like this happened to me. I would
never do this to somebody else. And behind the scenes
or even in front of the camera, she is plating this.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
That's bothersome to me, is she doesn't give. I don't
think she.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
Thought Andy was going to call her out on that
at the reunion, like I thought that she thought it
was going to just skate by. But it was actually
really disturbing engrossed to me when I found out she
personally had already talked to Melissa about it. Yeah, it
was discussing another level. Like it's one thing if they
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heard the way that we watched it, I could have
you know, I knew, Like it's a show.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Let me ask you a question, what are your thoughts
on Danielle? This was her perfect opportunity to really stand
up for herself. And to realize that she was set up.
She was set up to do this. And she sat
there and Andy asked her, do you feel set up?
And she went no, And then she goes into her
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green room and what does she do? I was set up? Like,
you know what, that's fire, fire, goodbye. If you can't
be honest out on the couch.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Goodbye, Well, because she's scared of the couch that she's on.
But also, Danielle, a little tip for you.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
They also set you up just now to have a
moment at the union. But again you flopped. Yeah, you
felt like this moment and realized, wow, it does kind
of seem like a setup now that I know jen
Aiden had already told Melissa. Yeah, she's when I thought
just Joe Gorga had told Melissa when the Louis conversation happened.
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But once I knew jen Aiden had, I was like,
now you just want another storyline out there about a
cheater to take the heat off you in your relationship.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Yeah, production at its finest, I didn't lock it.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
I didn't lock it one bit.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Well, you know what I did like, I like the
way Jenfesler looked.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
I did too. I thought she looked beautiful more so
than how beautiful. I liked how she took ownership for it,
and I liked that she wasn't afraid to like be vulnerable.
She's actually said to Andy, well, you know, Andy, I
don't know if I'm gonna be asked back, right, so.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
I had here's my chance, here's my chance.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Yeah, that was like really endearing and cute and honest.
And I thought she was beautiful before, but to each.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
His own, and she looks amazing, amazing.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
She looks amazing. I also appreciated the way that Jackie
an third question about ozempic, Yeah, I same.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
I feel the same about ozempic. You take it, you
lose a lot of weight. You can't be on it
for life. And then when you get a little bit
of that, you know, I'm really thin and I look great.
People are not doing what it takes to maintain it.
You don't have to be an ozembic unless you medically
need it, but you can, you know, you can jumpstart
maybe if you're you know, overweight, you can jump start it.
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But you have to change your diet and your routine
and your exercise, and you have to change your lifestyle
to continue that and a lot of people are not
going to do that.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
But what she's saying is that past that is, once
you're off of whatever the medication are that you're taking,
because let's be honest, now there's like twenty your mind,
you're gonna start to have potentially start to have body
dysmorphia type situations because if you've bought all new clothes,
you're a completely new size for sure, and it's because
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of the shot. And then what are your alternatives when
you stop if you haven't learned to change your lifestyle starving.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Yeah, I don't know if it's body disentusia, but I
think when you lose all that weight and you look
that great, and then after you go off of it
and you start gaining weight, you're going to go into
depression and you're gonna like you're you're it's gonna be
upsetting to you. And then you're gonna want to go
back on or you're gonna want to take another pill
and you're not gonna want to put the world.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
You're gonna stop eating, or you're gonna learn other types
of eating disorders.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
I'm not saying this is always gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
And I think that if it's for somebody who goes
on for a short period of time and they maintain
you know whatever. But if you're going to consistently live
on it, right, there is always like all medications, well
that's good.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
There's a good way of doing it. Like I have
a friend that did it, and she only went on
for a few months. She lost her weight, but also
while she was on it, she totally changed her eating habits.
She says, Yes, it's a lot easier to stick to,
you know, my new lifestyle when I'm on nozempic, because
I don't get hungry when I'm on ozempic. But I've
learned and i know what it takes. I like the
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way that skinny tasted, and I'm just going to maintain it.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
But I don't. And so you guys do know if
you are listening to this podcast, if you're on nozempic
or mon Journo or wagov or Semaglue Tide or whatever
it is over at all in We have now started
accepting clients that are our medication through the doctors because
we want to support teaching you the healthy lifestyle that
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you you will need to maintain this. I'm not we're
not showing them before and after photos because I don't
think that's a fully true representation of of, you know,
the weight loss. But yeah, if you are considering doing it,
you do. It doesn't have to be all in, but
you should be working with some sort of program that
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is going to teach you on how to properly nourish
your body. But moving on from that, do you think
that Jackie and Jen Fessler had a good enough reunion?
Speaker 2 (15:33):
No, I don't think they did. I think that first
of all, they won't even really ask any questions. I
think it was so overshadowed by the Teresa and Melissa situation.
Jen tried to, you know, step in and give her
two cents, but I felt like that whole segment should
have been they were only out there for a short time.
It really should have been about that, and it.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Was nothing was about them.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Nothing was about them.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
But I can say this, I think if we were
going to go down the line of jin Jackie, Rachel,
and Danielle, I'm picking Jackie and Jen.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Fessler for a return.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Well, I do think Rachel has good potential.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
I think she's I think Rachel's husband has good potential.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Oh, but the one that just had LIFO. Yeah, I
cannot believe she said that he had LIFEO like that.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
She's straight, like transparent and honest. But you see in
the coming up for next week, like John goes at it.
I think that Rachel will come around. I think that
she's very.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
I think she deserves another shot for sure.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
I think she deserves another shot. I think that Danielle
I don't really know what the issue is. Like, she
comes out so loud sometimes, like you know, with her
balls hanging out the door or whatever it was. But
when it comes down to it and it's something she does,
she doesn't doesn't deliver at the end of the story.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
But you know who was really feeling himself? Jenaden, No,
that's Louie walking around with his shirt off. Oh I'm like, dude,
what are you doing? And then all the guys are
in one room and they all have their clothes on
and he's with a shirt.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
I'm like, dude, no, but did you realize that the
guys were separated?
Speaker 2 (17:21):
And well, of course, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Okay, then we get to Frank says there has been
angry arguments in the show that it hasn't gotten to
this point until now and I'm sitting there going back,
you know, so the parties with the table flippings, and
I'm like, really, but either way, he's like the only
thing different in this group that's causing issues is Louie. Yeah,
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and for sure the part that acts. And so then
it also said he upset his son because Frankie isn't
working for Louie anymore since they closed the company, and
Louie didn't tell Frankie.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Well, I know a little bit more about that, but
I don't think I can say it yet. But because
it hasn't really the guys really haven't spoke on the reunion,
so I don't know if he's going to give all
the details of what went down with that.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
But it was.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
Really shitty, really really shitty.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Well, I think the part that frightened me was when
they do show the guys and all the guys are
like trying to stay calm, one you can tell that
Andy is actually frightened. It's going to get physical. Well,
Andy was not playing it up for the cameras, like
he goes into the guys and he's like, hey, I
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really I need you to not get physical to stay
out of the wait.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Was it only Louie that he said that too, or
was it all of that?
Speaker 1 (18:48):
He said it to Louie, but then he said it
to Joe gorgo right when Joe sat down, he said,
you need to stay in your seat, okay, But when
Louie was I forget. There was something going on back
and forth and Louis looked it was like almost like
he wasn't a human anymore, Like his eyes looked straight
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at I think it was Joe and he was like,
I know more.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
He was like Kenya. He was on Kenya when she
opened the door. And the red eyes, yeah, yellow eyes,
I think they were Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
There was two things that Dolores did during the reunion
that I liked.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
One when they make the joke about Melissa when Teresa's
kind of going, I mean, the whole thing is Teresa
and Melissa fighting, because you know, it's tip for tat
the majority of the time, what Melissa saying is making
more sense than Teresa, only because I don't know how
Teresa's handling like getting caught up and multiple things that
aren't actually tracking. But uh, her next allegation is that
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clearly there's something up with Melissa if she was drunk
and she said, I'm gonna text my ex one the
ex must be I mean, how long have those two been.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Min that's like eighteen years or something like shut.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Can you imagine like if I was gonna text my ex, like, oh,
hi Bobby Hopper from when I was fifteen.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Hi Joey Spencer, how are you Joey Spencer? I know
it's been forty years, but.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
I just thought i'd reach out Bobby.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Let you know.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
I know I don't even have your number anymore. Oh
my god, I texted again.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
I think her mode in Ireland. I think her motivation
behind that was maybe a little bit of she knew
that they were saying stuff about her cheating and she
just kind of threw that out. Maybe that was just
like a you know, a bait to see if they
were going to say something I liked.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
When Dolores said I I thought that was funny. Funny. Yeah,
she did two things where she stood up to Teresa's
she said I thought that was funny. And then there
was another point in time where once we get into
all the Margaret stuff.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Yeah, but when Delora said you're going down that right
there went wrong?
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Like what who I think I missed this. Who did
she say she was going down to to Melissa?
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Melissa was reading the text messages and she's like, you're
going down and I'm like, wait what that doesn't even
sound like something Dolores would say. The Dolores said we
see on TV. So it's like, wait, there's so much
that's so much evil that spit back and forth, but
those text messages are going to make her go down?
Speaker 3 (21:42):
Well, I think the text messages were kind of disgusting.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Well, it's going on with Teresa's disgusting, the boatddle, all
the stuff, investigating everybody there, like, and if.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Those were the text messages she was sharing, I think
that makes more sense. But she wasn't. She was sharing
shit from twenty twenty one about Teresa's looks, don't. I
don't like that, just like I didn't like Jen Aiden
going after Margaret's Margaret and Margaret Margaret took it and
she's like, talk about my looks all you want.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Yeah, I'm pretty shitty for sure.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
What about when? Then Margaret says her child was called
and threatned at work by Louie and has the phone records.
Teresa says she gets spoof calls all the time, and
Andy says, there's hacks going on.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Okay, can we talk about to explain how this works? Yes,
I do you get them?
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Also? I got them. Kyle and I were sitting at
last season that I was on the show. We're sitting
down filming the very first thing that we filmed of
that season. We're sitting there and all of a sudden,
her phone rings and it's Lisa vander Pump and who
doesn't talk to us? My phone rings and it's Lisa Renna.
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We're both filming. We look up at production and we're
like do we answer? And we like hold up the
phones and they're like, yeah, like weird that there was
the exact same.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
And nobody's there.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Nobody's there. We both pick up and then they then
it was switching back and forth between the two of us,
calling like twenty five times. So then we started panicking.
I'm like text and Eric, I'm like, have you talked
to Lisa ren And we're getting these like a million
calls from Lisa vander Pump And none of the calls
actually existed. But the difference is this is on a
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cell phone.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Yeah, okay, guys, So basically what happened somebody hacked into
like the Housewife database. I don't know if it was
from Bravo whatever. We will get these phone calls. I'll
get phone calls from Vicky and I'll be like, hey,
sugar tits, what's up? How I answer my phone to
Vicky all the time and there's nobody there, And it
happens randomly, and it will happen like a few times
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in a month, but there's never anybody there. This is
not what happened. However, Teresa knew that this was going
to be brought up. This is a different situation. Her child,
Margaret's child, was at work and on a private line
that nobody can get that phone number two unless it's
given out, was called by Louie and was allegedly said
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a bunch of stuff to him, and her child could
look at the color idea and say hey, Louie, and
at that point Louie hung up. So this but did
you notice when this was brought up on air on
the couch, Teresa reached behind her, took her phone out,
started texting who I think? She texts Louie to let
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him know, Okay, this has happened, go ahead and make
those calls and somehow Louie was able to call her
two times and let her know. Oh look, Andy, I mean,
how convenient and how set up was that?
Speaker 1 (24:55):
I just I mean clearly they knew this was coming up,
because I think one point, Margaret says, you know all
this legals involved already, so they called. I mean, it
really goes to show what.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
An actress she is. Man Like, She's like, like, what
I never heard this? Yes you have, Yes, you have
your attorney.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Then contract. Then she has the balls to then get
mad at Dolores because Dolores didn't call her after she
found out. And I appreciate Delores, It's like, why would
I One you already knew, and two I don't want
to be involved in this ship show, right, Like why
add more people to the mix, Like this is already
uncomfortable situation, This is already But why would.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Dolores call her to tell her when she already knew?
When Delores knew she knew.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
That's my point. There's no one.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
It's just Teresa trying twisting twisting man, that la manipulator.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
Listen. I don't think that Melissa. I thought, yes, Melissa
made very good points at the beginning, but then Melyssa
fell into the trap of tip for tat with me
with Teresa, and that's where it just kind of got
like when Teresa to Melissa is like, I can't wait
to never see your face again after today, and then
Andy says, let me know how that goes. Yes, I
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don't see a casting agent in Teresa's future.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Well didn't he say something like you know how that
ends up? Something like that?
Speaker 1 (26:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (26:27):
Yeah, if you say that, you might be the one
that's going to go. But my question, conversating is conversating?
Speaker 1 (26:35):
Oh Danielle was so happy about that.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
Well, you know what, I think it's conversing. And if
you even put conversating into your iPhone, it will not
it will not accept it. It's not a word, and
not that that. Your iPhone's a dictionary.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Go to urban dictionary.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
So I think it's it like Markt's right, it's kind
of a new.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
Yeah, but if it's an urban dictionary, you can use
it urban dictionary.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
Yeah. Isn't that where glory holes in and things like that?
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Yeah, but that's a word.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
We say, it's it's.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
For saving convert mhm, no, no, we have a problem.
So it's slang.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
It's slang, So I don't think it's I mean, here's
the thing you're allowed to say.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
Slang slang is you know, whatever.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
But but Margaret wasn't wrong the ox the Oxford Dictionary
does list converse sate converse sate all right, Teresa says
Marge is an old hat. Margretwarts Teresa is a criminal,
Teresa gets you know, the two calls from Margaret coincidence,
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all those.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Things so stage it made me want to poke my
eyeballs out, and it made me annoyed that Andy didn't
even like say like, oh, come on, come on.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
Even then Andy got into the hacking thing, was a
little bit confusing.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Well, they just gives her a way out. And that's
what pisses me up, because fifty percent of the people
are gonna go, oh, there's a hacking thing going on. No, guys,
this hacking thing is phone calls within You have to
have that person's phone number in your phone to even
get a call from them. So it looks like Vicky's
calling me, but nobody's there on the other line. So
it's just it pissed me off that that was kind
of like, oh, well, you know, it could have been that. No,
(28:33):
it wasn't that. It wasn't that. And let me ask
you a question. Have you gotten one of those calls lately? No,
neither of I. I haven't gotten one in over probably
two months. Well.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
Also, sometimes you can get like a group text.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
Have you gotten that? Like one time it was like
me and Andy at like forty five people on it. No,
And I was like, what the hell? And then I
asked and He's like, I know, I got it too.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
It's not Yeah, I've gotten text messages from uh what
looks like somebody, but it's not but not like a
group one.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
So did you love this reunion?
Speaker 1 (29:09):
I mean I have people that were saying like, oh,
I'm obsessed, like that was so good. I personally, when
I look around that room and I look at Eviriendships,
I thought it was it made me feel yucky.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
It made me feel yucky, it was evil. It kind
of pretty much sealed the deal that these two cannot
work together.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
But also when you look around and this isn't me,
This is truly not me picking aside. This is truly
just me looking at the foundation of the group. If
Melissa is gone, Teresa stays, who are Teresa's friends jen
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Aiden and Dolores.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
Yep, three Musketeers.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Then we've got Marge, but.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Danielle, Rachel, Jackie, Rachel.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Jackie, I don't know. We heard rumors Jackie's gone, oh really,
But I mean, who knows. But I don't take.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Anybody knows what's gonna happen yet. I don't even think
Bravo knows how to fix this because it's bad and
it can't continue.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
Like this well, and it's gonna get worse. We see
in the scenes for next week when Teresa is like,
I'm leaving, I'm running out, and then she's like, I
don't know who she's talking to you she's talking.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
To Joe because last reunion Joe chased after her. Ah
m hm, and she's like, down, God, Barbie, and he
probably is like, I don't want to.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
I have another question. Have you tried to what did
they call it a pussy pot? Have you tried that?
Speaker 2 (30:53):
I don't even know what a pussy pot is.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
I've heard of it. So one of my friends uses
it all the time, and she says that it is
a game changer.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
So don't you watch game changer for what was it?
Speaker 1 (31:04):
Do you spray it on your who? Who? And then it.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
Gives you like these really intense.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
Oh oh oh is it?
Speaker 3 (31:16):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
I actually I was given one. Actually we were looking
into that and I have a sample of that and yeah,
that does it does work?
Speaker 1 (31:26):
Can you send it to me? Because I went on
Ease the app last night to see if it existed
there after the first because I have to watch this
so two times. The first time I watched the show,
I went on Ease, I'm like, I'm curious. If it's
not there it maybe well.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
Maybe I should make some maybe I should go well,
I didn't know. How was that big of a deal.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
Dam Let's do this one together and we'll call it the.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
Twat Twat.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Twat Cream. If mine was cream, the example that I
had gotten was a cream.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
Do you think that? Okay? We also have to talk
a little bit more about jen Aden, even though I
liked her normally, but this this reunion was rough for
me when she goes over and beyond about how happy
she is in her marriage and how she's blaming Margaret
for her daughter wanting to be a love therapist not
(32:18):
a Broadway star.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Stop. I can't with the blaming. Nobody in Jersey takes
accountability It's just mind blowing to me.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
You hear this on a reality like if this was
solely because she saw on a TikTok that this is
what it happened between her parents' relationship and it hurt her.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
All that I completely understand.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
But her going through and saying she wants to be
a love therapist, I don't have I don't think it
has anything to do with Marge.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
No, it has nothing to do with Marge.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
Stop it.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
You put yourself on a reality show. If your reality
is your husband is cheating on you, you better damn
well believe.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
That's going to be brought up. Yeah, but do you
think that Rachel was blaming on that same token? Do
you think that Rachel was blaming uh Louis No.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
I don't. I don't. I think it's probably true. I
think they probably in the way, her husband went ballistic, Adam,
he had proof that this guy is digging up dirt
on everybody and contacting people, and now Barbaret's businesses were
contacted like this, her her child was contacted like he
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even said multiple times, I have dirt on all of you.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
I also don't necessarily understand this last portion. I know
we're like it's because it was this there's so this
is a hard episode to recap because it was the
same thing over and over and over again. But when
it comes to Lisa and Joe and Teresa and Louie,
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why Louie felt the need to only speak to Joe,
Like was he so close with Joe he was really
concerned that Melissa was cheating on him? And my knowledge
of men in the past, if you're really close to
a man, probably not going to have like you bring
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your wife into the conversation.
Speaker 4 (34:26):
No.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
I couldn't even imagine Eddie or Edwin getting involved in
that situation. It's so stupid.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
It was just like, could you imagine if.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
I heard a rumor that you cheated?
Speaker 2 (34:39):
Yeah, I tell Edwin and Edwin behind my back, doesn't
tells Eddie Sadie.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
It's bananas, right right?
Speaker 2 (34:51):
I mean in this situation, Eddie would be like, I
am not getting involved in this ship.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
I am not. The way to add actually handle it
if this were to go down would be I would
call you, Hey, we heard this information.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
I'm giving you a heads up. If it's true, you
need to come clean to Eddie.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
If it's not true, this is what's going around and
go from there.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
It's a hard situation to be in. I don't know
that I get involved. We have a friend. If you
had a friend that's cheating on their wife or husband
or whatever, to put yourself in the middle is going
to be a disaster, a huge disaster. So I think
that he knew that. They knew that, and they wanted
to do it off camera so they didn't look the
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bad people. And then they had jen Aiden go out
and spill it.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
Why do you think that jen Aiden was so upset? Like,
am I just having revisionish history? But like, was jen
Aiden close with Teresa before.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
Jen Aiden close? I think they from what I've seen. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
And then the other thing that I thought was hilarious
was when Jackie they panned to the arsenal and they're
like grilling people about what arsenal it's mean, and no
one really knows the actual definition. But then they say,
then Jackie says, yeah, I did say she would be
not an enemy that I would want because she's like
a true opponent, like or whatever it was.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
And then I think most people would see that about
me too.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
I think people would say that about anybody that's outspoken, right,
but then Teresa goes, oh, yeah, I only said it
because Jackie said it. You weren't there when Jackie said it.
Jackie said it to Dolores.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Her lies, I mean, the lies are just intense.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
You think she knows that there lies or she's just delusional.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
You.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
I would hope that somebody knows when they're lying.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
I don't know. I don't know. I think she twists
things in.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
Her own head and then she believes them.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
But do you think she is twisting them on her
own or do you think it's because at one point
they say, well, and where it gets really sad is
when it's like you're pathetic. You're pathetic. You're pathetic.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
Oh, I know, And I mean the whole conversation was pathetic.
I think that they're very calculated. I think that, you know,
the whole I saw it firsthand with the suddenly she
grabs her phone after that Marge conversation about her child
being called, and they're trying to make it sound like
it was a fake call, and they're trying to manipulate
(37:35):
and switch this. I mean, that's some serious shit right there.
Serious manipulation right there. And then fact phone to start calling.
Oh look Andy, look it's like, oh, you lost me
right there. That was so fake.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
It was fake. But we're out of time for today.
Tam in New York finally going you guys, so you
know we will be having a special guest to co
host Orange County with me, but Tamra, because I'm not
gonna be talking to you until next week. Remember, we're
gonna have to talk about watch What Happens Live. We're
(38:10):
gonna have to talk about all those things next week.
So when we talked Monday to recap Atlanta, be ready
with additional good stories for us. I will, okay I
miss yet, send me what you decided to wear and
watch What Happens Live?
Speaker 2 (38:27):
Okay, I will.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
I
Two teas in a pod with Teddy Mellencamp and Camra.
Judge just got finished watching Jersey.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
What a shit show that was.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
I mean the level of shit show. I mean, first
and foremost, we need to talk about how Andy has
officially met his impatient parent era Teresa and Melissa, for sure.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
But first, I mean starting out with Teresa still in denial,
still in denial to everybody's fault. She was put in
She wasn't put in jail, she was put in prison,
federal prison. And I mean, Sweetie, it was your husband.
It wasn't Melissa, it wasn't Caroline, it wasn't Joey. It
(00:55):
was your husband, and you you signed.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Here's that everybody needs to be very clear about.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
If you are in the public eye in any capacity anything,
any sort of breaking the law or taxes or whatever
it may be, they are going to take additional time
to look into you.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Yeah, so here's the thing. Pay your taxes and you
won't have a red flag on your ass.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
And also, I don't know, I just feel like the
continuous discussion over I mean, how many years ago was that.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Well, here's the thing, if that was me, which it
would never be me. If it was, and it was
brought up. I would take full ownership of it and say,
you're right. I did something stupid. I signed papers I
didn't look at and I went to prison. It was
my husband's fault, it was my fault. I was stupid
not to read it into story. Stop blaming people.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
And then I saw which I sent over this morning.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
That now Joe Judice you houside New Jersey. Joe Judice
supports ex wife Teresa Judaice claimed that her brother Joe
Gorga and sister in law Melissa Gorga, helped land the
two of them behind bars almost a decade ago. They
(02:20):
came on the show. They were very good friends with
my ex partner's attorney, which went to the FEDS, which
I think Melissa and Joe were involved, Joe alleged on
Monday's episode of Behind the Velvet Rope. Okay, one, Joe,
you're the one that actually did it, regardless, like let
it to me. It doesn't matter who it is that
(02:42):
went to the Feds. I think the Feds were also
already involved. But then did you catch when Teresa said,
we know because we talked to the Feds, I'm sure, Oh, yes,
that arrested. You also let you know who the informant was.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Yes, and the interrogation they tipped me off. Okay, Teresa, Okay,
I mean, for the love of God, just stop. Stop Teresa.
You did something wrong, you went to prison. End it
right there. Take response.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
You're a number to get in touch with the Feds,
like one eight hundred. Call your FED friend like.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
There is if you go to the web website, there
is a tip area where you can throw in tips.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Oh do you check this out?
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Yeah? No, I know that I have a friend that
was a federal agent.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
So, oh is his name? Bo Dieetle?
Speaker 2 (03:35):
No, No, I'm tired and a very good guy.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
But Teresa, yeah, who knows.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
But Teresa bring up things from ten years ago, like
a guilty child trying to get the heat off of them.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Okay, so then you know we start we kind of
break it down.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Melissa reads the text that Jackie got from Jacqueline Lorita,
which also I checked was from twenty twenty one.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Yeah, and by the way, there's a lot more text
than just what she read. I was sent all of
the text messages. They're all pretty nasty. But my problem is,
my concern is why did Dolores go, this is bad.
You're going down like under her breath. Like, why because Melissa,
I mean, everybody plays dirty on that cast, like Teresa's
(04:25):
played dirty this entire time. Why is it so bad
that Melissa read this?
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Well? I think, I mean the problem that I had
with the text is ninety percent of what she said
was about her looks. Yeah, and I here's the thing,
like I mean to even say, uh, okay, I know
I shouldn't care about her arrogance voice and the fact
(04:52):
that she gets away with way too much after being
a nasty asshole bothers me. She's a low life trash bucket.
She's stupid but also very calculating. Even with two facelifts,
I lift, nose jobs, shaved forehead, botox fillers, and new boobs,
she is still so ugly. I just think I mean it. Yeah,
I mean, we have six additional texts that we're not
(05:15):
reading because it's unnecessary.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Do you think they're still friends?
Speaker 3 (05:21):
I think all of it is.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Now. I'm getting to the point where I'm like, is
Jacqueline in a situation where she's wanting to be back
in the mix of the spotlight again?
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Well, I talked to her, and she says, no, she
does not want to be on the show. She does
not want She's even moved to Orange County. Since she
does not want to be on Orange County, she has
moved on. But I mean, they have deep rooted shit
going on in that cast, and they were friends for
a very long time. I would have liked to see
Jackie read these texts instead of Melissa.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
That's what I was Yeah. Also the fact that Jackie
wasn't there to read the text or even explain the
context of why Jackie and Jacqueline were talking about it.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Do you remember was Jackie on the couch when the
this is brought up?
Speaker 1 (06:08):
She wasn't. Now I don't think so, right, But also
we had to remember this is probably if it's twenty
twenty one.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
I'm just guessing. I'm not the best at math, as
we know, but Jackie, I'm assuming this is after Jackie.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Outed that Evan allegedly had an affair by Teresa, so
she was probably mad at Teresa and texting with Jacqueline.
And if you guys.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Think these text messages don't go on between friends when
you're in a cast like this and you get pissed off,
they happen.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
They do, they happen, you.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
Will find shitty, shitty things.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
But I don't know. I just felt like it was
Melissa reading Jacqueline's text was a little bit off to me. Now, Mistay, I.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Just want to say this now, mis stay your asshole.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
And then but then Teresa's like, yeah, and then I'll
get this up your asshole too.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
I was like yeah, and then and then, I mean
they were what they were saying back and forth was
hilarious because it was so stupid. And then she's like, yeah, now,
mis stay my asshole. I was like, nobody's touching my asshole.
I don't care how I now, Mistay you are.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
I was looking at, you know, a couple of different things.
I was really trying to keep an open mind watching this.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
Yeah, but what I didn't understand is like they just
didn't stop. And at this point, it's there's nothing interesting
to say between the two of them anymore.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
They're just going at it, but there's there's not even
anything to discuss that hasn't been discussed one million times.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Well, you could tell by Andy's face he was completely
over it.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Also annoyed at Janada, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
He was, even though even though she tried to kiss
his ass and tell me he had big dick energy,
and I felt.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Like a I feel like she took notes before the
reunion and then used her a couple of one liners,
but they didn't hit for me. But I did. I
thought that Melissa, I mean, I thought that Marge handled
all that pretty well. But I know we're jumping all
over the place.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
I know, but it's just so much to talk about.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Okay. So then the next part is Rachel says Jaden's
birth mom was contacted because Louie had someone track her down. Says,
it makes sense Louie yelled bo diedle knows things. Teresa
says Margaret pulls dirt on people but doesn't have money
to hire a PI, which please. And then Melissa tells
(08:50):
Teresa that her first scene this season with Margaret was
fake and wanted her storyline to be no mistake. Okay,
do you what did you actually think of that makeup
with Marche I thought it was bullshit too.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Yeah, it was a little bullshit, But you know what,
sometimes we need to have those little makeups so we
can move on because some of these storylines are just
they need to put a pin in it. And even
though there's not truly a pin in it, they need
to move on for the sake of the show.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
True. Okay, then we get to jen Aiden says she
called Melissa and told her about the cheating rumor. This
part had me floored. I know that jen Aiden is
playing producer, because.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
It wasn't it so evident that she was playing producer
her whole fact, Like this happened to me. I would
never do this to somebody else. And behind the scenes
or even in front of the camera, she is plating this.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
That's bothersome to me, is she doesn't give. I don't
think she.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
Thought Andy was going to call her out on that
at the reunion, like I thought that she thought it
was going to just skate by. But it was actually
really disturbing engrossed to me when I found out she
personally had already talked to Melissa about it. Yeah, it
was discussing another level. Like it's one thing if they
(10:12):
heard the way that we watched it, I could have
you know, I knew, Like it's a show.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Let me ask you a question, what are your thoughts
on Danielle? This was her perfect opportunity to really stand
up for herself. And to realize that she was set up.
She was set up to do this. And she sat
there and Andy asked her, do you feel set up?
And she went no, And then she goes into her
(10:39):
green room and what does she do? I was set up? Like,
you know what, that's fire, fire, goodbye. If you can't
be honest out on the couch.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Goodbye, Well, because she's scared of the couch that she's on.
But also, Danielle, a little tip for you.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
They also set you up just now to have a
moment at the union. But again you flopped. Yeah, you
felt like this moment and realized, wow, it does kind
of seem like a setup now that I know jen
Aiden had already told Melissa. Yeah, she's when I thought
just Joe Gorga had told Melissa when the Louis conversation happened.
(11:19):
But once I knew jen Aiden had, I was like,
now you just want another storyline out there about a
cheater to take the heat off you in your relationship.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Yeah, production at its finest, I didn't lock it.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
I didn't lock it one bit.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Well, you know what I did like, I like the
way Jenfesler looked.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
I did too. I thought she looked beautiful more so
than how beautiful. I liked how she took ownership for it,
and I liked that she wasn't afraid to like be vulnerable.
She's actually said to Andy, well, you know, Andy, I
don't know if I'm gonna be asked back, right, so.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
I had here's my chance, here's my chance.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Yeah, that was like really endearing and cute and honest.
And I thought she was beautiful before, but to each.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
His own, and she looks amazing, amazing.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
She looks amazing. I also appreciated the way that Jackie
an third question about ozempic, Yeah, I same.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
I feel the same about ozempic. You take it, you
lose a lot of weight. You can't be on it
for life. And then when you get a little bit
of that, you know, I'm really thin and I look great.
People are not doing what it takes to maintain it.
You don't have to be an ozembic unless you medically
need it, but you can, you know, you can jumpstart
maybe if you're you know, overweight, you can jump start it.
(12:55):
But you have to change your diet and your routine
and your exercise, and you have to change your lifestyle
to continue that and a lot of people are not
going to do that.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
But what she's saying is that past that is, once
you're off of whatever the medication are that you're taking,
because let's be honest, now there's like twenty your mind,
you're gonna start to have potentially start to have body
dysmorphia type situations because if you've bought all new clothes,
you're a completely new size for sure, and it's because
(13:25):
of the shot. And then what are your alternatives when
you stop if you haven't learned to change your lifestyle starving.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Yeah, I don't know if it's body disentusia, but I
think when you lose all that weight and you look
that great, and then after you go off of it
and you start gaining weight, you're going to go into
depression and you're gonna like you're you're it's gonna be
upsetting to you. And then you're gonna want to go
back on or you're gonna want to take another pill
and you're not gonna want to put the world.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
You're gonna stop eating, or you're gonna learn other types
of eating disorders.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
I'm not saying this is always gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
And I think that if it's for somebody who goes
on for a short period of time and they maintain
you know whatever. But if you're going to consistently live
on it, right, there is always like all medications, well
that's good.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
There's a good way of doing it. Like I have
a friend that did it, and she only went on
for a few months. She lost her weight, but also
while she was on it, she totally changed her eating habits.
She says, Yes, it's a lot easier to stick to,
you know, my new lifestyle when I'm on nozempic, because
I don't get hungry when I'm on ozempic. But I've
learned and i know what it takes. I like the
(14:34):
way that skinny tasted, and I'm just going to maintain it.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
But I don't. And so you guys do know if
you are listening to this podcast, if you're on nozempic
or mon Journo or wagov or Semaglue Tide or whatever
it is over at all in We have now started
accepting clients that are our medication through the doctors because
we want to support teaching you the healthy lifestyle that
(14:59):
you you will need to maintain this. I'm not we're
not showing them before and after photos because I don't
think that's a fully true representation of of, you know,
the weight loss. But yeah, if you are considering doing it,
you do. It doesn't have to be all in, but
you should be working with some sort of program that
(15:22):
is going to teach you on how to properly nourish
your body. But moving on from that, do you think
that Jackie and Jen Fessler had a good enough reunion?
Speaker 2 (15:33):
No, I don't think they did. I think that first
of all, they won't even really ask any questions. I
think it was so overshadowed by the Teresa and Melissa situation.
Jen tried to, you know, step in and give her
two cents, but I felt like that whole segment should
have been they were only out there for a short time.
It really should have been about that, and it.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Was nothing was about them.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Nothing was about them.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
But I can say this, I think if we were
going to go down the line of jin Jackie, Rachel,
and Danielle, I'm picking Jackie and Jen.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Fessler for a return.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Well, I do think Rachel has good potential.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
I think she's I think Rachel's husband has good potential.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Oh, but the one that just had LIFO. Yeah, I
cannot believe she said that he had LIFEO like that.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
She's straight, like transparent and honest. But you see in
the coming up for next week, like John goes at it.
I think that Rachel will come around. I think that
she's very.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
I think she deserves another shot for sure.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
I think she deserves another shot. I think that Danielle
I don't really know what the issue is. Like, she
comes out so loud sometimes, like you know, with her
balls hanging out the door or whatever it was. But
when it comes down to it and it's something she does,
she doesn't doesn't deliver at the end of the story.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
But you know who was really feeling himself? Jenaden, No,
that's Louie walking around with his shirt off. Oh I'm like, dude,
what are you doing? And then all the guys are
in one room and they all have their clothes on
and he's with a shirt.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
I'm like, dude, no, but did you realize that the
guys were separated?
Speaker 2 (17:21):
And well, of course, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Okay, then we get to Frank says there has been
angry arguments in the show that it hasn't gotten to
this point until now and I'm sitting there going back,
you know, so the parties with the table flippings, and
I'm like, really, but either way, he's like the only
thing different in this group that's causing issues is Louie. Yeah,
(17:49):
and for sure the part that acts. And so then
it also said he upset his son because Frankie isn't
working for Louie anymore since they closed the company, and
Louie didn't tell Frankie.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Well, I know a little bit more about that, but
I don't think I can say it yet. But because
it hasn't really the guys really haven't spoke on the reunion,
so I don't know if he's going to give all
the details of what went down with that.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
But it was.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
Really shitty, really really shitty.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Well, I think the part that frightened me was when
they do show the guys and all the guys are
like trying to stay calm, one you can tell that
Andy is actually frightened. It's going to get physical. Well,
Andy was not playing it up for the cameras, like
he goes into the guys and he's like, hey, I
(18:39):
really I need you to not get physical to stay
out of the wait.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Was it only Louie that he said that too, or
was it all of that?
Speaker 1 (18:48):
He said it to Louie, but then he said it
to Joe gorgo right when Joe sat down, he said,
you need to stay in your seat, okay, But when
Louie was I forget. There was something going on back
and forth and Louis looked it was like almost like
he wasn't a human anymore, Like his eyes looked straight
(19:10):
at I think it was Joe and he was like,
I know more.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
He was like Kenya. He was on Kenya when she
opened the door. And the red eyes, yeah, yellow eyes,
I think they were Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
There was two things that Dolores did during the reunion
that I liked.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
One when they make the joke about Melissa when Teresa's
kind of going, I mean, the whole thing is Teresa
and Melissa fighting, because you know, it's tip for tat
the majority of the time, what Melissa saying is making
more sense than Teresa, only because I don't know how
Teresa's handling like getting caught up and multiple things that
aren't actually tracking. But uh, her next allegation is that
(20:09):
clearly there's something up with Melissa if she was drunk
and she said, I'm gonna text my ex one the
ex must be I mean, how long have those two been.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Min that's like eighteen years or something like shut.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Can you imagine like if I was gonna text my ex, like, oh,
hi Bobby Hopper from when I was fifteen.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Hi Joey Spencer, how are you Joey Spencer? I know
it's been forty years, but.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
I just thought i'd reach out Bobby.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Let you know.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
I know I don't even have your number anymore. Oh
my god, I texted again.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
I think her mode in Ireland. I think her motivation
behind that was maybe a little bit of she knew
that they were saying stuff about her cheating and she
just kind of threw that out. Maybe that was just
like a you know, a bait to see if they
were going to say something I liked.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
When Dolores said I I thought that was funny. Funny. Yeah,
she did two things where she stood up to Teresa's
she said I thought that was funny. And then there
was another point in time where once we get into
all the Margaret stuff.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Yeah, but when Delora said you're going down that right
there went wrong?
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Like what who I think I missed this. Who did
she say she was going down to to Melissa?
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Melissa was reading the text messages and she's like, you're
going down and I'm like, wait what that doesn't even
sound like something Dolores would say. The Dolores said we
see on TV. So it's like, wait, there's so much
that's so much evil that spit back and forth, but
those text messages are going to make her go down?
Speaker 3 (21:42):
Well, I think the text messages were kind of disgusting.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Well, it's going on with Teresa's disgusting, the boatddle, all
the stuff, investigating everybody there, like, and if.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Those were the text messages she was sharing, I think
that makes more sense. But she wasn't. She was sharing
shit from twenty twenty one about Teresa's looks, don't. I
don't like that, just like I didn't like Jen Aiden
going after Margaret's Margaret and Margaret Margaret took it and
she's like, talk about my looks all you want.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Yeah, I'm pretty shitty for sure.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
What about when? Then Margaret says her child was called
and threatned at work by Louie and has the phone records.
Teresa says she gets spoof calls all the time, and
Andy says, there's hacks going on.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Okay, can we talk about to explain how this works? Yes,
I do you get them?
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Also? I got them. Kyle and I were sitting at
last season that I was on the show. We're sitting
down filming the very first thing that we filmed of
that season. We're sitting there and all of a sudden,
her phone rings and it's Lisa vander Pump and who
doesn't talk to us? My phone rings and it's Lisa Renna.
(23:00):
We're both filming. We look up at production and we're
like do we answer? And we like hold up the
phones and they're like, yeah, like weird that there was
the exact same.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
And nobody's there.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Nobody's there. We both pick up and then they then
it was switching back and forth between the two of us,
calling like twenty five times. So then we started panicking.
I'm like text and Eric, I'm like, have you talked
to Lisa ren And we're getting these like a million
calls from Lisa vander Pump And none of the calls
actually existed. But the difference is this is on a
(23:33):
cell phone.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Yeah, okay, guys, So basically what happened somebody hacked into
like the Housewife database. I don't know if it was
from Bravo whatever. We will get these phone calls. I'll
get phone calls from Vicky and I'll be like, hey,
sugar tits, what's up? How I answer my phone to
Vicky all the time and there's nobody there, And it
happens randomly, and it will happen like a few times
(23:55):
in a month, but there's never anybody there. This is
not what happened. However, Teresa knew that this was going
to be brought up. This is a different situation. Her child,
Margaret's child, was at work and on a private line
that nobody can get that phone number two unless it's
given out, was called by Louie and was allegedly said
(24:20):
a bunch of stuff to him, and her child could
look at the color idea and say hey, Louie, and
at that point Louie hung up. So this but did
you notice when this was brought up on air on
the couch, Teresa reached behind her, took her phone out,
started texting who I think? She texts Louie to let
(24:43):
him know, Okay, this has happened, go ahead and make
those calls and somehow Louie was able to call her
two times and let her know. Oh look, Andy, I mean,
how convenient and how set up was that?
Speaker 1 (24:55):
I just I mean clearly they knew this was coming up,
because I think one point, Margaret says, you know all
this legals involved already, so they called. I mean, it
really goes to show what.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
An actress she is. Man Like, She's like, like, what
I never heard this? Yes you have, Yes, you have
your attorney.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Then contract. Then she has the balls to then get
mad at Dolores because Dolores didn't call her after she
found out. And I appreciate Delores, It's like, why would
I One you already knew, and two I don't want
to be involved in this ship show, right, Like why
add more people to the mix, Like this is already
uncomfortable situation, This is already But why would.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Dolores call her to tell her when she already knew?
When Delores knew she knew.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
That's my point. There's no one.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
It's just Teresa trying twisting twisting man, that la manipulator.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
Listen. I don't think that Melissa. I thought, yes, Melissa
made very good points at the beginning, but then Melyssa
fell into the trap of tip for tat with me
with Teresa, and that's where it just kind of got
like when Teresa to Melissa is like, I can't wait
to never see your face again after today, and then
Andy says, let me know how that goes. Yes, I
(26:18):
don't see a casting agent in Teresa's future.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Well didn't he say something like you know how that
ends up? Something like that?
Speaker 1 (26:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (26:27):
Yeah, if you say that, you might be the one
that's going to go. But my question, conversating is conversating?
Speaker 1 (26:35):
Oh Danielle was so happy about that.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
Well, you know what, I think it's conversing. And if
you even put conversating into your iPhone, it will not
it will not accept it. It's not a word, and
not that that. Your iPhone's a dictionary.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Go to urban dictionary.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
So I think it's it like Markt's right, it's kind
of a new.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
Yeah, but if it's an urban dictionary, you can use
it urban dictionary.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
Yeah. Isn't that where glory holes in and things like that?
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Yeah, but that's a word.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
We say, it's it's.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
For saving convert mhm, no, no, we have a problem.
So it's slang.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
It's slang, So I don't think it's I mean, here's
the thing you're allowed to say.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
Slang slang is you know, whatever.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
But but Margaret wasn't wrong the ox the Oxford Dictionary
does list converse sate converse sate all right, Teresa says
Marge is an old hat. Margretwarts Teresa is a criminal,
Teresa gets you know, the two calls from Margaret coincidence,
(27:58):
all those.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Things so stage it made me want to poke my
eyeballs out, and it made me annoyed that Andy didn't
even like say like, oh, come on, come on.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
Even then Andy got into the hacking thing, was a
little bit confusing.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Well, they just gives her a way out. And that's
what pisses me up, because fifty percent of the people
are gonna go, oh, there's a hacking thing going on. No, guys,
this hacking thing is phone calls within You have to
have that person's phone number in your phone to even
get a call from them. So it looks like Vicky's
calling me, but nobody's there on the other line. So
it's just it pissed me off that that was kind
of like, oh, well, you know, it could have been that. No,
(28:33):
it wasn't that. It wasn't that. And let me ask
you a question. Have you gotten one of those calls lately? No,
neither of I. I haven't gotten one in over probably
two months. Well.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
Also, sometimes you can get like a group text.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
Have you gotten that? Like one time it was like
me and Andy at like forty five people on it. No,
And I was like, what the hell? And then I
asked and He's like, I know, I got it too.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
It's not Yeah, I've gotten text messages from uh what
looks like somebody, but it's not but not like a
group one.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
So did you love this reunion?
Speaker 1 (29:09):
I mean I have people that were saying like, oh,
I'm obsessed, like that was so good. I personally, when
I look around that room and I look at Eviriendships,
I thought it was it made me feel yucky.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
It made me feel yucky, it was evil. It kind
of pretty much sealed the deal that these two cannot
work together.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
But also when you look around and this isn't me,
This is truly not me picking aside. This is truly
just me looking at the foundation of the group. If
Melissa is gone, Teresa stays, who are Teresa's friends jen
(29:53):
Aiden and Dolores.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
Yep, three Musketeers.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Then we've got Marge, but.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Danielle, Rachel, Jackie, Rachel.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Jackie, I don't know. We heard rumors Jackie's gone, oh really,
But I mean, who knows. But I don't take.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Anybody knows what's gonna happen yet. I don't even think
Bravo knows how to fix this because it's bad and
it can't continue.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
Like this well, and it's gonna get worse. We see
in the scenes for next week when Teresa is like,
I'm leaving, I'm running out, and then she's like, I
don't know who she's talking to you she's talking.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
To Joe because last reunion Joe chased after her. Ah
m hm, and she's like, down, God, Barbie, and he
probably is like, I don't want to.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
I have another question. Have you tried to what did
they call it a pussy pot? Have you tried that?
Speaker 2 (30:53):
I don't even know what a pussy pot is.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
I've heard of it. So one of my friends uses
it all the time, and she says that it is
a game changer.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
So don't you watch game changer for what was it?
Speaker 1 (31:04):
Do you spray it on your who? Who? And then it.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
Gives you like these really intense.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
Oh oh oh is it?
Speaker 3 (31:16):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
I actually I was given one. Actually we were looking
into that and I have a sample of that and yeah,
that does it does work?
Speaker 1 (31:26):
Can you send it to me? Because I went on
Ease the app last night to see if it existed
there after the first because I have to watch this
so two times. The first time I watched the show,
I went on Ease, I'm like, I'm curious. If it's
not there it maybe well.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
Maybe I should make some maybe I should go well,
I didn't know. How was that big of a deal.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
Dam Let's do this one together and we'll call it the.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
Twat Twat.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Twat Cream. If mine was cream, the example that I
had gotten was a cream.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
Do you think that? Okay? We also have to talk
a little bit more about jen Aden, even though I
liked her normally, but this this reunion was rough for
me when she goes over and beyond about how happy
she is in her marriage and how she's blaming Margaret
for her daughter wanting to be a love therapist not
(32:18):
a Broadway star.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Stop. I can't with the blaming. Nobody in Jersey takes
accountability It's just mind blowing to me.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
You hear this on a reality like if this was
solely because she saw on a TikTok that this is
what it happened between her parents' relationship and it hurt her.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
All that I completely understand.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
But her going through and saying she wants to be
a love therapist, I don't have I don't think it
has anything to do with Marge.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
No, it has nothing to do with Marge.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
Stop it.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
You put yourself on a reality show. If your reality
is your husband is cheating on you, you better damn
well believe.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
That's going to be brought up. Yeah, but do you
think that Rachel was blaming on that same token? Do
you think that Rachel was blaming uh Louis No.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
I don't. I don't. I think it's probably true. I
think they probably in the way, her husband went ballistic, Adam,
he had proof that this guy is digging up dirt
on everybody and contacting people, and now Barbaret's businesses were
contacted like this, her her child was contacted like he
(33:36):
even said multiple times, I have dirt on all of you.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
I also don't necessarily understand this last portion. I know
we're like it's because it was this there's so this
is a hard episode to recap because it was the
same thing over and over and over again. But when
it comes to Lisa and Joe and Teresa and Louie,
(34:01):
why Louie felt the need to only speak to Joe,
Like was he so close with Joe he was really
concerned that Melissa was cheating on him? And my knowledge
of men in the past, if you're really close to
a man, probably not going to have like you bring
(34:25):
your wife into the conversation.
Speaker 4 (34:26):
No.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
I couldn't even imagine Eddie or Edwin getting involved in
that situation. It's so stupid.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
It was just like, could you imagine if.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
I heard a rumor that you cheated?
Speaker 2 (34:39):
Yeah, I tell Edwin and Edwin behind my back, doesn't
tells Eddie Sadie.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
It's bananas, right right?
Speaker 2 (34:51):
I mean in this situation, Eddie would be like, I
am not getting involved in this ship.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
I am not. The way to add actually handle it
if this were to go down would be I would
call you, Hey, we heard this information.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
I'm giving you a heads up. If it's true, you
need to come clean to Eddie.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
If it's not true, this is what's going around and
go from there.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
It's a hard situation to be in. I don't know
that I get involved. We have a friend. If you
had a friend that's cheating on their wife or husband
or whatever, to put yourself in the middle is going
to be a disaster, a huge disaster. So I think
that he knew that. They knew that, and they wanted
to do it off camera so they didn't look the
(35:38):
bad people. And then they had jen Aiden go out
and spill it.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
Why do you think that jen Aiden was so upset? Like,
am I just having revisionish history? But like, was jen
Aiden close with Teresa before.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
Jen Aiden close? I think they from what I've seen. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
And then the other thing that I thought was hilarious
was when Jackie they panned to the arsenal and they're
like grilling people about what arsenal it's mean, and no
one really knows the actual definition. But then they say,
then Jackie says, yeah, I did say she would be
not an enemy that I would want because she's like
a true opponent, like or whatever it was.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
And then I think most people would see that about
me too.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
I think people would say that about anybody that's outspoken, right,
but then Teresa goes, oh, yeah, I only said it
because Jackie said it. You weren't there when Jackie said it.
Jackie said it to Dolores.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Her lies, I mean, the lies are just intense.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
You think she knows that there lies or she's just delusional.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
You.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
I would hope that somebody knows when they're lying.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
I don't know. I don't know. I think she twists
things in.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
Her own head and then she believes them.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
But do you think she is twisting them on her
own or do you think it's because at one point
they say, well, and where it gets really sad is
when it's like you're pathetic. You're pathetic. You're pathetic.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
Oh, I know, And I mean the whole conversation was pathetic.
I think that they're very calculated. I think that, you know,
the whole I saw it firsthand with the suddenly she
grabs her phone after that Marge conversation about her child
being called, and they're trying to make it sound like
it was a fake call, and they're trying to manipulate
(37:35):
and switch this. I mean, that's some serious shit right there.
Serious manipulation right there. And then fact phone to start calling.
Oh look Andy, look it's like, oh, you lost me
right there. That was so fake.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
It was fake. But we're out of time for today.
Tam in New York finally going you guys, so you
know we will be having a special guest to co
host Orange County with me, but Tamra, because I'm not
gonna be talking to you until next week. Remember, we're
gonna have to talk about watch What Happens Live. We're
(38:10):
gonna have to talk about all those things next week.
So when we talked Monday to recap Atlanta, be ready
with additional good stories for us. I will, okay I
miss yet, send me what you decided to wear and
watch What Happens Live?
Speaker 2 (38:27):
Okay, I will.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
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