July 29, 2025 • 40 mins
Spotted: Erika with a new mystery man! Teddi gets the answers on who he is, how they met, and if they’ve seen each other since the photos were released.
On RHOC, Katie is lying… but so is everyone else! Teddi and Erika call out one Housewife in particular.
Plus, Teddi and Erika question Jen’s intentions about conveniently ‘not remembering’ events.
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Speaker 1 (00:12):
Hi, guys, Welcome to another episode of Diamonds in the
Rust with myself Teddy Mellencamp and.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Hey, I'm Erica Jane, and I'm really happy you're back.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
I missed you, my friend. Do you know how hard
it was for me to cancel?
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Yeah? I do. And see people don't know this about you,
but like Teddy doesn't cancel anything unless yeah, Like I
was like, I don't want to say because it's like
I don't want to say, but Teddy doesn't cancel unless
she's like.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
I was like, I can't do this. But this is
the beauty of our pod for those of you guys,
just to give like an outer look of it, is
that like our producers are like part of the team,
you know, like we are also part of the team
that everybody feels so comfortable with each other that I knew.
I was like, it won't miss a beat, it'll probably
be better.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Well, it's nice to have Matt step in because we
are friendly. He's back there cackling and laughing at us.
So even though I missed you, it was nice to
have Matt familiar energy and it was just an easy
day to you know, talk back and forth and then
your house got broken into that night, even, yes, I
fucking can. It's gotten so bad here. Do you know
(01:22):
that they were having the community meeting as your home
was being broken into?
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Yeah? And do you know they broke into a house
to doors.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Down down before they came to you, right before.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
They came to us.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Then there was the murder.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Here's the murder like down the street of the two
people from American Idol.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Oh, that's right, the home invasion.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Yes, so it's I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
I've heard Los Angeles Police Department.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
And for all the people that sent me messages that
they think their friend's home was broken into or attempted
to be broken into right down the street, and send
me the information. I've sent all that along to authority.
So good it's been passed along. I think it's just it's.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Part of the greater problem that we have here in
LA that nobody really wants to address. And I'm not
being political, I'm just being honest. Like, the shit is.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Bad, it's a bad and it's a bad situation.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
It's really bad when you have your home broken into
because something really happens to you, you feel really violated.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Yeah, I mean we were lucky that they really lucky.
We were really lucky that are you know. Security cams
went off and they got scared and they ran away.
But like even being with the kids and having to
hold the kids, the cops come in and shine the
light to like make sure there's no one anywhere else.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
To clear your house. It's really fucking it's it's dramatic.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
It's dramatic. It's scary. But yeah, I mean they were
in there, like shining the light on dove what. Yeah,
the cops because.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Oh, the cops, I thought, sorry they.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
I don't want to confuse it. The cops came in
and they're like, sorry, we have to fully clear your house.
And I'm like, but didn't wake up, and they're like,
we just need to make sure.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Yeah, of course they have to make sure. I mean,
they have to fully clear your home.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
And I was like, but I already checked her. And
they're like checking her and us checking.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Two different things. Yeah, two different things. Sorry, miss, Yeah,
but how about we eliminate crime.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Okay, let's just have it calm down a bit, but
let's speak on a lighter note.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Let's do it, Like, man, what is happening?
Speaker 1 (03:31):
I honestly every time something comes out in the press
and you haven't told me first on the pod, I
get a little bit okay.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Okay, hurt, I understand, But okay, here's what. I met
someone and we went out on two dates and then
we went to get a manicure, pedicure. This is true,
and I don't know what happened. We were just simply
walking in Korea town. Any nail spaw if you're listening,
(04:02):
and I will be there again, So fuck you. And
that happened, and obviously we didn't know.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Were you holding hands in the pic?
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Yeah? It was really nice, Like I feel comfortable holding
this person's hand, and he's a nice man. This is
a you know, I haven't been seen with anybody in
five years, so this is a really nice person and
I enjoyed my time with him. He doesn't live here.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
So have you seen him since the manicure?
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Yeah? I know.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Did you meet him through Heidi Montag?
Speaker 2 (04:39):
I met him. It's really interesting. I saw him on
a friend of mine's podcast, because I watch everybody's podcast
late at night before I go to bed. I saw
him on a friend of mine's podcast, and I thought, wow,
that's an interesting interview. Yeah, and then I saw him
again on another one and I thought, God, that guy's
kind of interesting. And I saw him backstage with Heidi
in London, just randomly. It was randomly because she went
(05:03):
on and then I went on after her. I thought,
that's that guy from the podcast. I'm gonna walk up
and say hello. So it did. I walked up and
I introduced myself and I was like, hey, my name
is Erica, and I think you're you know, I've seen
a couple of podcasts. I'm a fan.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
What do I call him?
Speaker 2 (05:18):
His name is John, His name is John, Him John,
You just call him John.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
All right. We have no code name nothing. John. Hey, John,
nice to meet you. Wish I would have known about
your prior to the pod.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Listen, listen, it's it's a friend. It's a nice thing.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Let's not yeah, oh but let's dig into me all
the time.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Well you our father along in that journey than I
am so baby steps? Yeah yeah, I mean, And I
think I think it's interesting because the Picks ended it
like it ended up on Fox News. It ended up
like kind of everywhere, and uh yeah, so what was
a nice private moment. It's not a nice private thing.
(05:59):
I was having for myself was ruined.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
People love to see it. No, even on Sunday, I
went to dinner with I mean not dinner, I went
to lunch with Edwin and the kids, and I look
up and all of a sudden, like and I'm like,
now this is going to turn into a whole thing
that it shouldn't be, like, it should just be look
at this amazing co parenting right.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Instead it becomes all of this other stuff.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
And I'm like, this is it.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Look, it's a price you pay for being in having
a public life. And we all know that there are
just moments when you know, I was just trying to
get a manicure. Yeah, and I was just holding someone's hand.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
I'm trying to really time frame. Do you still have
the same nails?
Speaker 2 (06:39):
No, these are different. These were we shot opening titles yesterday,
so so these are like jeweled nails for that. This
was not that manicures.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Hold on, you didn't post You didn't break the rules
and post opening titles this year?
Speaker 2 (06:54):
What nobody's breaking any rules and posting anything? Have you
noticed I.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Have noticed you and at least a Rico rogue and
post your photo.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
I just you know, I don't know this year is
a little different.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
You're just you're just staying by the rules.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Just laying real low, laying real low, real low, real low.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
She's on the low.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
I'm on the low.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
But we are here to also recap Real Housewives of
Orange County.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Which I really liked this episode. I thought a lot
got in. I mean, I enjoyed this episode.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
I enjoyed this episode too. It's it's strange because I
know that this is airing a couple of days after
you guys have watched it, So it's hard. But we're
going to just give you some of the little snippets
of our favorite thing, Yes, of our favorite First, we're
going to go through the taglines.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Let's do it. Which one is your favorite? By the way,
all of us go like, Gen's life can be hard,
but so are my abs.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Cutee you go your next Shannon Storms, but door for once,
the only dogs in my life are my golden retree
verse kind of cute, kind of cute. But doesn't she
only have one?
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Yeah, but it's stuck on that well, Archie, I know
it's it's a it's a thing, and your brain is
like that.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
My brain is like, but you have only one? Golden retriever.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Well, maybe she's had more in the past and we
just don't know. She has Fine, she has Archie in whom.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Oh she has two dogs. Troy, I'm so sorry, psychologies.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Is he not available to film?
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Apparently? Troy. Do you not get a day fee?
Speaker 2 (08:27):
No? None of them do.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
No.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Emily Simpson, I may not be your cup of tea,
but I'll bring you an espresso martini love.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
So do you think that's why they do it? So
if you pronounce it like Martini, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
I was just making it up.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Well, it's been the only time it's worked for me.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Okay, Well you like espresso Martini's.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
I mean I haven't had an espress up, but you're down. Yeah,
I like up. I feel like it would become kind
of an issue for me espresso martinis because I don't sleep.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Well, that's it, you don't.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Oh shit, So then I'm having a like I could
do one.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Right, Well, that's all you should really do anyway.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
What do you mean? I'm more of like a two
to three drinks a night when I'm out.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
What do you drink?
Speaker 1 (09:13):
I drink mimosas, mimosas, I drink apparel sprits.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Okay, so far these are pretty light. Okay, these are
sparkling chick drinks. I thought you were going to say, like,
I have three whiskeys.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
No, and not a night like.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
There are some of our friends that get down like that.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
There are some of our friends that I don't do it.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
I don't do that. I mean I needmore because I
had to put the brakes on that. But oh, by
the way, I'm gonna take I love these mushrooms. Shout
out to New Tropics. Oh, neotropics, nootropics, neotropics.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
I have that. They sent me some. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
And the bars yeah, the bars, Yeah, I have them.
They're awesome.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Check it out to the lady that DMed me. That's
who is any au t R O P. I S Yes,
I think that's it.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Yeah, good after it. Heather Drew Brow. I love life
in the hills, so I always take the high road.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
That's expected.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Does she live in the hills of OC I'm such
like a critical thinker. I can't you.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Know, Will I'm not that familiar, but I would imagine
she lives up somewhere high Okay, because she's rich.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
She's rich, honey, rich.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Honey, Gina, I may work in real estate, but that
doesn't mean I'm buying what you're selling.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Cute, cute Katie. I swear to tell the truth, the
whole truth, and nothing but my truth. It's like when
I should I'll never do your dirty work. But I
was doing everyone.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
That's a revelation I read. I wasn't expecting this confession. Girl,
don't telling yourself now. Well, I didn't know I was
doing a everybody's Well, you found out the hard way.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Why I found out a bit?
Speaker 2 (11:03):
You found out the hard way, Tamra Judge. I'm taking
a hard look in the mirror, and my reflection is
still hot.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
I made fun of her this morning.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
What'd you do?
Speaker 1 (11:12):
I just said, I this kind of Burston Well, but
she I mean, I get that it's a throwback. She
already did something about being hot. So the first one
was I'm the hottest housewife in Orange County? Then what
was the other hot reference? Housewives come younger, but they
don't come hotter.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
I don't really like young housewives. I don't think that
it's a smart thing.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
So you didn't like me.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
I do like you. I'm saying you wise beyond your years.
And some of us aren't.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
But yeah, I mean it is all the taglines. They're creative.
It kind of fits to what they are.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
But it really kind of does do. People always ask
you like how do you come up with your tagline?
And I'm like, it's a collaboration between the woman and
the producers. You can change little words and things like that,
but it also reflective of your season, like what's going
on with you?
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Yeah, so you and you got like, at least for me,
two of the seasons that I was on, I went
into a closet and like, read like twenty lines.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
I do that in my closet too. I do that
in all my closets. Go in the closet and read
these lines. Okay, okay, so I would just.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Read them, and by lines, I mean that are taglines not.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Because there's several options and then ultimately you don't know
which one is being chosen.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
You can say no, though, like there was a couple
that I said no absolutely.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Now there are a couple that you just scratch out
because it's just like, hey, that's that ain't rid you know,
that's too much.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
But this episode was pretty good. It starts out with
Katie and Gina meet up to get scalp treatments. Gina
has accepted Katie's apology and wants to move forward, but
it's not fully trust her.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Agreed.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
I also want this scalp massage.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Yeah, you should get one.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
They have one ap pellicure, which is amazing.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
I love pellicure. I can't do the scalp massage, but
I'll do something else.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
You can do the body scrub.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
I'll do the body scrub. Just because my hair's colored
all the time, I can't pull on it. But yeah,
well I get color every fourteen days. I have to
be careful.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Well, can you tell me something about having blonde or hair?
Why does it want to turn an orange?
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Well, you need to tone it you or use a
purple shampoo or something like that.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
It's really a pain in the bucks. I'm like to
keep icy.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Blonde is a job.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
So you use purple shampoo? How often?
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Once a week?
Speaker 1 (13:23):
What kind?
Speaker 2 (13:24):
I'll give you the name unless their parent is saying.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
I'm like, listen, somebody's gonna want this advice because there's
a lot of us out there that have orange hair.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Yeah, you need to you should do purple shampoo to
take the brass out and to take out the orange
and yellow, take the brass out, and you can do
it like once a week, but be careful because it
does deposit color and it can it's a little bit
on the dryer side, so you need to like do
a mask as well.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Do you think But in like two to three months time,
I'll have like the drew Berry more pixie by then.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Yes, I do. Your hair looks like it's growing pretty fast.
All right, I'm in for it, though you're giving me.
Don't take this the wrong way like Mia Pharaoh Rosemary's Baby.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
No, I love that one. I'm fine with what Matt
said earlier.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
I wasn't what did he say.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
I'm not gonna call her out.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
But it's like did you say Sandy Duncan in the
pewter pan? Oh god?
Speaker 1 (14:15):
He said the fitness like Susan Powder.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Stop the insanity. Wait, Matt, that is actually and since
fitness is kind of your thing, girl, we need to
win a unit tard and some like oh I'm.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Wearing a unitard? Hold on, what did you wear?
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Dare you?
Speaker 1 (14:33):
I will wear it.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
I'll get into eighties. Shit, I'll put my hair on
a side pony and get.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
It in Okay, fine, eighties next week.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Eighties eighties, that's an agreement. Remind me text me though,
because I gotta get my look together.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
Yeah, her looks gonna be better than mine.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
It's not. I'm just saying, I gotta remember. I love that.
We need to put like gel. We need to because
Susan Powder's hair was.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Like like sheldin up. I mean I always get the
best people. Normally, I get Kate plus eight.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Oh hell no, when we better not have that wedge
that's not coming like the Karen like the We're not
giving you that wedge. All right, here we go, moving on,
(15:21):
Tamara and Emily meet up. Tamar thinks s Gretchen looked
like an episode of Toddler's and Tiaras at the Hot
Pot lunch. I'm just gonna say, big fan of Toddler's
and Tiaras right here. However, Tamar, you're onto something.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Emily thinks Tamara always tries to rationalize her actions. She does,
she does. Emily is correct here, Yeah, Tamra has an
explanation for everything. Sometimes it's right, sometimes it's wrong.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
And that's just how it goes.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
That's how it goes.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Then, Jen, Heather and Shannon meet up for lunch. Shannon
received a text from Katie claiming she hadn't shared the
recording with anyone but her husband, but on the phone,
Alexis told Heather that Katie played the record for her
and Jen Jen claimed she was not there when the
recording was played. Katie says she has never hung out
with Alexis Salon.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
So much of this come on Heather Dubrow for putting
this together. I really liked Heather this episode. Jen. I
don't know if you're not remembering, but you did it.
And you know, Bravo's good with the old backup. They
love a flashback girl. So we need to apologize for
that right away. And why not just say yeah, I
was there, or if you don't remember, if you say hey,
(16:29):
I don't know, it could possibly not be. I'm not
quite sure if I remember. We did. We did get
in a fight about it. I said, I'm not quite
sure what.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Because you said you didn't remember, but you have a
good memory.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
I know, but I didn't at that time. I said,
it's possible I don't remember.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
I'm talking about the time on the stairs, not the
time when I cried by the way, when I go
back to the memories.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Okay, looks like I don't know. I don't hold on.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
I don't even remember what we were fighting about.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
It's not important, but I just remember that I didn't remember.
And then and we had a melt out.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
We had we had a melt well, I had a
bigger melt down because I left.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
I know. But it's okay.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
But this is what I'm gonna say. If we're going
to keep harping consistently on Katie lying, we have to
call everybody out when they lie.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Go ahead, keep going.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
So let's call jin out when she's lying. Let's call it.
Like Shannon the other night was on Watch what Happens Live?
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Lying, what'd she say? Didn't watch?
Speaker 1 (17:25):
She said that, you know, she essentially she was coming
after Katie. And she's like, I have never lost it
on production or any and everybody knows. That's not true.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
And no, that's not true.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
If we're going to do it, like if we're all
gonna I truly believe that Katie is getting iced out.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
I I truly believe, but there are reasons to ice
her out. In my opinion, I see why these women
are icing her out.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
But then everybody needs to pull their pants.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Up and take it and just take responsibility if you
made a mistake.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Yeah, and tell us. Don't make us have to go
through the backtracking of was Alexis there? Was? Who there?
Who else came?
Speaker 2 (18:02):
So Katie says she has never hung out with Alexis
alone helped me out here? Is that true or false?
Speaker 1 (18:08):
That could be true, but that's why she's saying that
Jen was there. Why were people so close to their
table at that restaurant. I don't like to apologize.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
I didn't like that. I don't like that at all.
And I'll tell you something, when you go to shoot
the shows like this, like it's just not good because
people who are at places that were at that and
then they listen and then they go, it's just bad.
I wish we didn't have to do that.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
They were crammed in. I mean, they had to apologize
to the people next to them, to the people.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
I'm actually kind of shocked they left it in because
we've apologized to people too.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Yeah, I'd be like, I'm really, I'm really sorry. Well
we are embarrassing. Then there's having a birthday party for herself.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Which I love. Have yourself two or three.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
You know, do you mind months later?
Speaker 2 (18:57):
No, I don't care, like whatever, Like whenever.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
You get around, whenever you're filming, have a birthday.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Party, when, of course, when you're filming, have two or
three durit and I celebrated three times, you know what
I mean? So who cares? At this point in my life?
I wanted whatever?
Speaker 1 (19:11):
But you know what I have kept thinking about When
they were talking about the price of this birthday party,
I didn't like that. Well, they said three times.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
The amount of thirty three times three is nine nine.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
So huh, four times three.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Times four is twelve. That's what I'm saying. Three times
four is twelve, so it's one hundred.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
And twenty grand. But then, what is the other thing
we listened to about money on this episode that completely
baffled me Regarding money? This is a quiz. I'm stuck
Jen's son.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
I've signed for that loan I wanted. I wanted to
die for that child.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
I that's the same amount as the party, and this child,
Heather du Bross, could have essentially paid for gens And.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
He's going to be a young marine and he signed.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
It's not even his own college.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Who's is it?
Speaker 1 (20:06):
It's his brothers it's not. He's not. I think he's
signing off on his.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Brother's college USC tuition. That's what it said down on
the lower third. I'm going to tell you something. Dawson
is his name, right, Yeah, Hey Dawson. I'm sorry. You're
a great guy. But like what Ryan said, which is,
you want to have a life, if you want to
have a car, Ryan was giving him good advice, which is, like, dude,
(20:31):
this is too much for you to take on as
a young kid. You're going to be a marine. Do
you know how much they make?
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Well, I want to know.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
I've gotten some schooling lately and these VA benefits and
that shit fucking blows well.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
It made me pissed at Jen's ex husband me too.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
How dare you let that?
Speaker 1 (20:49):
How dare you do that to your son on purpose?
It's I would understand. If it was for his college, well,
that's fine, his own college, then he's making a choice
in its.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Investing him yourself, he's investing in himself. But to do
that for your brother, whoever this brother is, you better
fucking be a fucking brain surgery.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
You better be valedictorian and then become some sort of
a surgeon and help your brother out later on.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
You can really have to.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
The pressure is on.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
The pressure is on in Dawson. That's a really lovely
thing for you to do. But my god, child, Yeah,
way to saddle yours. I just cringed for Dawson.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
I couldn't believe it.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
But I know Ryan made a very good point.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
I have to say.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
I can't help it what you're liking.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Ryan, Ryan's not driving me nuts this season.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Which is good.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Not driving me nuts. No, I mean Jen's driving me
nuts because I think that she has to have a
better memory if she can comment that much on Instagram.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Oh, stay off the Instagram. Just let it be what
it's going to be.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Me or her. But you are we fighting?
Speaker 2 (21:51):
No, not you, I'm talking about her, Like, how about
this shoot the show? Whatever happens happens, don't go back
on social media and try and clean it up.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
But do you think she is fibbing a bit and
acting the way she's acting because she noticed that she
was kind of a favorite last year and now she
just wants to keep up being the favorite.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
I think that's an individual thing. I can't speak to
her motivation because I don't really know. I don't know
her but I think sometimes when you feel empowered by
the audience, you're willing to step out and comments make
bigger mistakes.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
Then Katie talks about spending time with her son Max.
Katie got crap for letting her son decide where he
wanted to live. This is the part of Katie I
wanted to see. I can't believe she opened up so
much about it.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
Well, and I don't think that they should be giving
her a crap. Kids should decide where they want to live.
I actually like Katie in this moment. Uh, and we
shouldn't be giving her shit for whatever she had to
do for these kids to live wherever. Now, then you
can't go around recording people, you can't talk to bloggers,
and you can't isolate yourself on a whole cast. How
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hard it is to take an entire cast to not
want to work with you. That's like some real work.
You've had some very hard work, right.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Yeah, I mean I had to put in a lot
of work.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Just kidding, well, you you did. I mean to nobody
ever did not want to film with you? That is
not true.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
I was kidding somebody else that we didn't.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Want to film with Wow, that's her fault. Well, yeah,
that's on her.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
That's on her. But no, I think that Katie, when
she's in her moments alone and she's sharing about her past,
I'm so interested in what she has to say, and.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
I think it comes from a good place because I
think she was really not in a place where she
could take care of the kids and she did the
right thing. And hey, moms, like, don't go back and
criticize her for that just because she had to make
a tough choice. You don't know all of the circumstances
and maybe you were able to work it out differently.
She did what she had to.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Do, and now clearly they have a good relationship because
he's coming out here.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Well, she's kept it, she's kept working on it, and
she's kept it up. It happens in life and families
and they come back together and kids come back around,
Like stop with the judge.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
But do you think Katie's doing all of this trying
to investigate video, do all of that so she can
try to make a real friend on there because Gina
isn't it.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
No, I don't know what. I don't know what's inspiring
Katie to do all this shit, but it's really bad.
Whomever's coaching you on this. If you're being coached, don't
do that. And if it's coming from inside, don't do
it either and stop.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
And then also if you are going to do it,
then have a good response at least you know, at
least if you're going to do it, have like what
did what did Emily say about Tamar this week? She
has no rat rathless?
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Yeah, she doesn't, and she just tends to apologize. I'm sorry, Well,
don't do shit.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
You know. Then it's just like you're like a dog
who got in trouble. You're just like, oh, beat, you're
beat down. But like beat, it's too much, it's too much.
Then Emily, Shannon, and Gina go bowling with their significant others.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
Wait, so Shannon and her new man, Adam from Love
Hotel show matching bowling shirts and Shannon had eliminated when
she was on Love Hotel. Here's what I love. We've
seen three of these Love Hotel contestants.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
And I don't remember one of their names.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
How about this? Why are they trying to push that
show on us?
Speaker 1 (25:18):
I don't know. I didn't watch it the first time, so.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Why are we watching? I feel like if you sign
up for Love Hotel, you got to come on one
of these shows.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
You got to Well, I want to know all these
guys live in OC Are they flying in for this?
Speaker 2 (25:30):
I never watched the show. Apparently it did well. Congratulations
to the women that were on it. I love to
see women winning on ratings. However, I don't need to
see I mean, it's cute, it's cute.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
You thought it was cute those matching outfits? Who would
do it?
Speaker 2 (25:45):
No, not the matching outfits. I think it's cute that
they bring the guys on. It's a cute idea. But
I don't want to see it again.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
No, I don't want to see it again. And but
don't worry, we do see it again in this episode.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
Why we see it?
Speaker 1 (25:54):
No, we see another that's a different guy.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
I know. That's the whole thing is like, we see that.
It's a rotating cast. I do like that. She's like, oh,
I'm not sleaving with him.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
Like, would you want to date any of those guys?
Speaker 2 (26:04):
No? I would not neither you neither. My taste is
a little different.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
So they go bowling, then Shane asking Shannon if she
was going to crash when she got home I don't
know if that was intentional, like a little bit of
a bit.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
It was not intentional. Shane's not that guy.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
I don't think it was. You realized, but he realized right.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
After he's not doing that. And then Gina questions Adam incessantly,
which is cute.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
It's cute, but it kind of felt like a bit.
That felt like a bit to me. It was a
bit like, I don't know that she's that Quippi.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
Naturally felt a little forced.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
It felt, and then it was like, oh, this is
getting good traction. People are laughing.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
No. Jen and Ryan are still working through their parenting
styles together. Dawson is going off to boot camp for
the military. Jenn is proud of him, but also sad
he's leaving. Yes, you should be sad. It's scary, Jan.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
Your ex husband having your son co sign on another
son's loan.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
Fucked up, not cool, not cool. You put that you
put Dawson at such a fucking disadvantage, like you're saddling
him with all of this debt he does not need.
He's going into the military. They make no money.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
But I think this, I think Dawson must have something
where he just really wants his dad, And you know
this is the want to wants approval because like I
think Dawson was the one that was like staying in
the one bedroom apartment with his dad.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
He's loyal, He's loyal.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Then Heather and Tama meet up for lunch. Heather thinks
Tamar has been very calm lately. Tamar has been going
through a lot with therapy and everything going on with
Teddy Teddy, why did they have to show all these embarrassing.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
Moments with you guys.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
Yeah, but because they weren't moments, they were tiktoks.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Well, you know it shows that your relationship. You have
an authentic relationship with Tamra. You guys host several podcasts together.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Then show is doing things we would actually be doing,
not like our tiktoks that are to be like, listen
to the pod, dun't dum like so cheesy. And I
was in a Bikinian one.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
You look fucking great. What are you complaining about?
Speaker 1 (28:12):
I hated it, I loved it, But I also wonder,
like I think Heather has a way of allowing women
to decide, like their their way of handling things, like
she never gets involved.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Likes I like that.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
I like that about her.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
It makes a good show.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Of course, that way, you're not, you know, directing someone's energy,
You're allowing them to react authentically.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
I do too, and I and I'm liking Tamor this season.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
I'm not. I don't feel like Tamra of last season
is showing up this season so far. I mean it's
episode three. Who knows she could come in here and
do whatever.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
So now we get back to.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
There has a birthday party, and she told Terry that
she spent four times the amount on this party then
she did on her Nobuo party. So we've done some
quick math that would be one hundred and twenty.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
K and that's a lot.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Yeah, it is a lot of money.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
It's a lot.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
It's a lot of money. But they make a lot
of money.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
And there wasn't I know, but to have that on
one party not that much money.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
We've seen it done, I mean.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
We've seen it done. But when I see it done,
I think about the times that I couldn't even get
the right glasses because I was like, I'm not spending
the extra money for stems.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
But can I be honest with you, like Heather, they
made it. I mean we were all kind of there. Yeah,
they've been really fortunate, so this is what they can do.
And if that's our birthday party, that's great.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
I mean it looked like a fun party.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
It looked nice. I would have enjoyed it. I mean,
she really did pull it out.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
It was the second housewife show that we've seen this
past two weeks where the party that they've had was
once in a church.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
I don't like that. I felt like, are we looking
at like Christian Broadcasting network like TV.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
I just watched The Duggar Family second season.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Oh is it good?
Speaker 1 (30:14):
It's called Shiny Happy People. It's like the I can't,
I can't, I can't watch Righteous Gemstones. No, what I
like it?
Speaker 2 (30:24):
I think? So I'm gonna start. Okay, did you watch
like Tammy Fan Jim Baker or was that before your time?
Speaker 1 (30:29):
Before my time? Yeah? But I mean you've got to
watch Shiny Happy People at least just you could start
with season two.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
Okay, but it is is it great?
Speaker 1 (30:38):
It's great? But I was I was thinking about that.
I was thinking for a Housewives of Miami and the church.
And now here we are at Heather's birthday in the church.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
You know, we had someone have a cardiac event in
a church in Spain.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Oh yes, I recall. Maybe it's not good for housewives.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
I don't think we should be anywhere in our churches. No,
let the Lord, let rest or something.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
But so all these party things are happening, and we're
just waiting for the moment that.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
We're all there for, which is Shannon and Katie.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
Which is Shannon and Katie. And also I'm like, is
Tamara coming? Are you coming?
Speaker 2 (31:13):
I look I like it that you don't force people
to come, like.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
I want to know if I'm waiting for. I mean,
we get it at the end.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
Well, here's I listen. When I was in a bad
place with somebody, I didn't go, Yeah, I didn't go
like you were not going to catch me there, Like
I ain't showing up and pretending fuck you.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
But I think that's the thing. I don't think if
she shows up, I don't think there's going to be
any pretending. No, which we know she does show up
because we see a blurred face and then we see
somebody have a break with Tamra. Yeah, see them walking in.
We're gonna get to and talk about Shannon and Katie
sit down. But before that, I think Joe Delarosa is
the blocked out face who's season one.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
And that Slade's girl right.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
And yes, which I think will probably lead to drama
with Gretchen, Which how are you feeling about Kretchen? Because
Gretchen went online and said this whole thing about how
you know they just asked me so many times? It
was an offer I couldn't turn down.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
Okay, great, don't explain yourself.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
We don't care, we don't care.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Go ahead, do it. If that's what you want to do,
just do it. Show up and kill it.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
Show up and kill it. And I'm sorry. That's actually
what a negotiation is called.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
Just do it.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
You You get offered an amount and then you can
say okay, or you say I would like this amount,
and then they come back to you with this amount.
That's how all negotiations work. And I you know, offers
you can't turn down when I'm not trying to be
a dick and have my girl Tameras back here because
I'm just you know, I'm I'm blindly fighting for her
(32:45):
by byes. Yes, but like, haven't we read that they
were having a little bit of money trouble, Like how
much is too much to turn down. I'm saying, I
mean not much.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
I'm quiet.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
I don't think she's getting like Julia Roberts, money to be.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
Ain't nobody getting that? That's what that. Ain't nobody getting
that despite what you've heard.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
I'm a good friend, guys, I'm loyal. So I'm gonna
go for it no matter what. Can't help myself.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
Okay, So then she So Shannon brings her other friend, Phil.
She also met him on Love Hotel. He seems nice
but emily talking about his did he I could feel it?
Is this wrong for me to say? But did he
have a little cheek killer or is that just his
(33:40):
bone structure? He looks he felt a little up, I
felt a little plastic surgery.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
I've never gotten like.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
I think it's one thing. I think it's one thing
to like be neat and well groomed. Yeah, to be
like to be neat and well groomed. But guys don't
need that shit.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
I don't need to see that there's like a divot
in your face.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
Yeah I don't.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
I just I don't need it. I don't want to
just I'd.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
Nles Yeah, I'd rather see like a I just I'm
a girl, you be a guy.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
So now we're going to get it into the biggest
part of what this entire episode is thought us up to,
because it was even though I liked.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
This episode, we're not going to talk about how Gretchen
broke slades dick.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
Oh shit, I forgot about the dig fracture. Sorry, Okay,
that's impossible.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
It says it really isn't a fracture because the penis
isn't a bone. However, you can break your penis if
you severely bend it or hit it while you have
in erection. Okay, and this happens when the erectile tissues.
Tear surgery is required to treat with stitches used to
repair the tissue, and if not treated, result in a
curvature of the penis and difficulty urinating. So I know
(34:52):
someone who broke and they had to diglove it, which
means you have to go down, tear it off, fix it,
and then sew it back.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
When you say the glove, I think of like circumcision.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
But kind of yeah, like going down and you know,
and then then fixing the I don't think he's exaggerating.
Maybe he just sprained well, apparently spray a penis sprain.
But but then you have a curved penis.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
And why she need to tell everyone? And she then
she acted out the curve. Oh god, what please tell
me you saw their social media?
Speaker 2 (35:30):
No, I don't look at that ship. What is what happened?
Speaker 1 (35:33):
Oh I'm not only going to say because I'll say
something wrong.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
Is it them as a couple?
Speaker 1 (35:37):
But no, Jen and Gretchen, Okay, go and do this
like this is what it's like to fight for yourself.
And then they do like just so many inappropriate things
on there. They've deleted it. Let's put it this way.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
Oh so, but it got a great response.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
But it makes me question. I mean, Gretchen, this doesn't so,
but it made me question.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
Jen's motivations or something.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Yeah, like how she's not like this is a bad
plan for me. Ah so, now I just I have
my radar on. I have my radar on.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
After this, someone send it to me. I'm sure it's
captured somewhere in the universe.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
I may or may not have it.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
I knew, I knew you would. Okay, I knew you would.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
Okay, now you get in and talk about the Shannon
and King.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
Okay, So here was my favorite part of the whole thing,
which is why they saved it for last. Shannon and
Katie sit down to talk, and Katie sincerely apologizes. I'm
a pause on that. Shannon tells Katie what she did
was illegal, possibly I mean recording someone without their knowledge. Yeah,
I need a full legal opinion. Katie makes excuses for
why she recorded Shannon, and she did. Katie then tells
(36:49):
Shannon she never let Alexis listen to it. That is
not true and it's bad. Shannon tells Katie that she
is now in the category of John Jansen and she's
worse than Alexis Billino and Tamra jed. She just got
a drag old Tamar. And then however, she's worse than
Alexis Bilino. Here's what I want to say. Shannon's really
upset and she has every right to be. Like that
(37:11):
was an active lawsuit. It was a lot, and I
wouldn't forgive Katie for that.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
I probably wouldn't forgive Katie. I thought either. But Katie,
just have a decent response to something.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
But you can't. But let me ask you this, what
good number one did you think that was gonna do?
And then you said, I just showed it to my husband.
You shouldn't be showing it to anybody, and why.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
And why can't Katie just say what? I would respect
her more if she said, like, like, if you did
that and you were acting like an asshole and we
were filming opening titles or whatever it was, and you
were just out of hand, and I filmed you because
I didn't know any better, and then you caught me,
I'd be like, Erica, I don't know if i'd actually
do this. I'm just saying I would appreciate watching this better. Erica,
(37:53):
you're acting like an asshole, and I wanted to make
sure that other people saw My bosses saw it.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
I would you.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
Would break me through the coals, but at least we'd
have a real answer.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
You'd have an answer. But and then to say, I
just showed it to my husband, and Shannon brought up
a very good boy. Katie said, I was on a meeting,
and Shannon brought up, you canceled a business meeting to
record me.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
And a meeting for what what business? As Erica would
say for what?
Speaker 2 (38:19):
For what? Or what?
Speaker 1 (38:20):
Or what?
Speaker 2 (38:21):
What? What are you gonna do about it? She's worse
than Alexis Billino and Emma Judge and Shannon walks out
after yelling at Katie.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
Well. According to the Sun, Shannon had to be told
to cool it after filming this as she was taking
her anger out on the crew. We also heard there
were some anger issues a couple of seasons ago with
Shannon where she's kind of yelling at the crew.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
Yeah, I mean, listen, we all get frustrated with everyone.
The crew gets frustrated with us. I get to listen,
I'm snappy. No, but you can't like full on How
you can't You can't full on lose it on them.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
You also can't say like I'm not filming this, I'm
not doing this, so I'm done.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
I'm done like that really walking out.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
You know I've walked out, But you have to walk
out on camera, like you have to own your walking out.
Like I can't do this. I'm having a hard time,
like not like I'm not filming this right now.
Speaker 2 (39:15):
I need to process this. No, girl, if I had
to prove I can get through what I got through,
you can get through that.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
I can't even process my next sentence.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
Well, you've going through a lot too, I mean you're
going through like heavy shit.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
But I'm liking it. I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
I'm entertained. I liked this episode.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
I think this season is better than last season.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
I like it. I mean, I can't look. I'm not
going to judge because it's just episode three, so it's
a long road to go. But I do. I do
like the first three episodes so far. I think it's good.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
I do too well. Thanks guys for tuning in to
another episode of Diamonds in the Rough. If you have
any questions, thoughts, are concerns, make sure to leave them
in our comment section for us to ignore.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
Thank you, Thank you. I do
Hi, guys, Welcome to another episode of Diamonds in the
Rust with myself Teddy Mellencamp and.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Hey, I'm Erica Jane, and I'm really happy you're back.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
I missed you, my friend. Do you know how hard
it was for me to cancel?
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Yeah? I do. And see people don't know this about you,
but like Teddy doesn't cancel anything unless yeah, Like I
was like, I don't want to say because it's like
I don't want to say, but Teddy doesn't cancel unless
she's like.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
I was like, I can't do this. But this is
the beauty of our pod for those of you guys,
just to give like an outer look of it, is
that like our producers are like part of the team,
you know, like we are also part of the team
that everybody feels so comfortable with each other that I knew.
I was like, it won't miss a beat, it'll probably
be better.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Well, it's nice to have Matt step in because we
are friendly. He's back there cackling and laughing at us.
So even though I missed you, it was nice to
have Matt familiar energy and it was just an easy
day to you know, talk back and forth and then
your house got broken into that night, even, yes, I
fucking can. It's gotten so bad here. Do you know
(01:22):
that they were having the community meeting as your home
was being broken into?
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Yeah? And do you know they broke into a house
to doors.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Down down before they came to you, right before.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
They came to us.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Then there was the murder.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Here's the murder like down the street of the two
people from American Idol.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Oh, that's right, the home invasion.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Yes, so it's I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
I've heard Los Angeles Police Department.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
And for all the people that sent me messages that
they think their friend's home was broken into or attempted
to be broken into right down the street, and send
me the information. I've sent all that along to authority.
So good it's been passed along. I think it's just it's.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Part of the greater problem that we have here in
LA that nobody really wants to address. And I'm not
being political, I'm just being honest. Like, the shit is.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Bad, it's a bad and it's a bad situation.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
It's really bad when you have your home broken into
because something really happens to you, you feel really violated.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Yeah, I mean we were lucky that they really lucky.
We were really lucky that are you know. Security cams
went off and they got scared and they ran away.
But like even being with the kids and having to
hold the kids, the cops come in and shine the
light to like make sure there's no one anywhere else.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
To clear your house. It's really fucking it's it's dramatic.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
It's dramatic. It's scary. But yeah, I mean they were
in there, like shining the light on dove what. Yeah,
the cops because.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Oh, the cops, I thought, sorry they.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
I don't want to confuse it. The cops came in
and they're like, sorry, we have to fully clear your house.
And I'm like, but didn't wake up, and they're like,
we just need to make sure.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Yeah, of course they have to make sure. I mean,
they have to fully clear your home.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
And I was like, but I already checked her. And
they're like checking her and us checking.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Two different things. Yeah, two different things. Sorry, miss, Yeah,
but how about we eliminate crime.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Okay, let's just have it calm down a bit, but
let's speak on a lighter note.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Let's do it, Like, man, what is happening?
Speaker 1 (03:31):
I honestly every time something comes out in the press
and you haven't told me first on the pod, I
get a little bit okay.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Okay, hurt, I understand, But okay, here's what. I met
someone and we went out on two dates and then
we went to get a manicure, pedicure. This is true,
and I don't know what happened. We were just simply
walking in Korea town. Any nail spaw if you're listening,
(04:02):
and I will be there again, So fuck you. And
that happened, and obviously we didn't know.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Were you holding hands in the pic?
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Yeah? It was really nice, Like I feel comfortable holding
this person's hand, and he's a nice man. This is
a you know, I haven't been seen with anybody in
five years, so this is a really nice person and
I enjoyed my time with him. He doesn't live here.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
So have you seen him since the manicure?
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Yeah? I know.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Did you meet him through Heidi Montag?
Speaker 2 (04:39):
I met him. It's really interesting. I saw him on
a friend of mine's podcast, because I watch everybody's podcast
late at night before I go to bed. I saw
him on a friend of mine's podcast, and I thought, wow,
that's an interesting interview. Yeah, and then I saw him
again on another one and I thought, God, that guy's
kind of interesting. And I saw him backstage with Heidi
in London, just randomly. It was randomly because she went
(05:03):
on and then I went on after her. I thought,
that's that guy from the podcast. I'm gonna walk up
and say hello. So it did. I walked up and
I introduced myself and I was like, hey, my name
is Erica, and I think you're you know, I've seen
a couple of podcasts. I'm a fan.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
What do I call him?
Speaker 2 (05:18):
His name is John, His name is John, Him John,
You just call him John.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
All right. We have no code name nothing. John. Hey, John,
nice to meet you. Wish I would have known about
your prior to the pod.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Listen, listen, it's it's a friend. It's a nice thing.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Let's not yeah, oh but let's dig into me all
the time.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Well you our father along in that journey than I
am so baby steps? Yeah yeah, I mean, And I
think I think it's interesting because the Picks ended it
like it ended up on Fox News. It ended up
like kind of everywhere, and uh yeah, so what was
a nice private moment. It's not a nice private thing.
(05:59):
I was having for myself was ruined.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
People love to see it. No, even on Sunday, I
went to dinner with I mean not dinner, I went
to lunch with Edwin and the kids, and I look
up and all of a sudden, like and I'm like,
now this is going to turn into a whole thing
that it shouldn't be, like, it should just be look
at this amazing co parenting right.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Instead it becomes all of this other stuff.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
And I'm like, this is it.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Look, it's a price you pay for being in having
a public life. And we all know that there are
just moments when you know, I was just trying to
get a manicure. Yeah, and I was just holding someone's hand.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
I'm trying to really time frame. Do you still have
the same nails?
Speaker 2 (06:39):
No, these are different. These were we shot opening titles yesterday,
so so these are like jeweled nails for that. This
was not that manicures.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Hold on, you didn't post You didn't break the rules
and post opening titles this year?
Speaker 2 (06:54):
What nobody's breaking any rules and posting anything? Have you
noticed I.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Have noticed you and at least a Rico rogue and
post your photo.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
I just you know, I don't know this year is
a little different.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
You're just you're just staying by the rules.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Just laying real low, laying real low, real low, real low.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
She's on the low.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
I'm on the low.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
But we are here to also recap Real Housewives of
Orange County.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Which I really liked this episode. I thought a lot
got in. I mean, I enjoyed this episode.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
I enjoyed this episode too. It's it's strange because I
know that this is airing a couple of days after
you guys have watched it, So it's hard. But we're
going to just give you some of the little snippets
of our favorite thing, Yes, of our favorite First, we're
going to go through the taglines.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Let's do it. Which one is your favorite? By the way,
all of us go like, Gen's life can be hard,
but so are my abs.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Cutee you go your next Shannon Storms, but door for once,
the only dogs in my life are my golden retree
verse kind of cute, kind of cute. But doesn't she
only have one?
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Yeah, but it's stuck on that well, Archie, I know
it's it's a it's a thing, and your brain is
like that.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
My brain is like, but you have only one? Golden retriever.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Well, maybe she's had more in the past and we
just don't know. She has Fine, she has Archie in whom.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Oh she has two dogs. Troy, I'm so sorry, psychologies.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Is he not available to film?
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Apparently? Troy. Do you not get a day fee?
Speaker 2 (08:27):
No? None of them do.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
No.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Emily Simpson, I may not be your cup of tea,
but I'll bring you an espresso martini love.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
So do you think that's why they do it? So
if you pronounce it like Martini, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
I was just making it up.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Well, it's been the only time it's worked for me.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Okay, Well you like espresso Martini's.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
I mean I haven't had an espress up, but you're down. Yeah,
I like up. I feel like it would become kind
of an issue for me espresso martinis because I don't sleep.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Well, that's it, you don't.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Oh shit, So then I'm having a like I could
do one.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Right, Well, that's all you should really do anyway.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
What do you mean? I'm more of like a two
to three drinks a night when I'm out.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
What do you drink?
Speaker 1 (09:13):
I drink mimosas, mimosas, I drink apparel sprits.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Okay, so far these are pretty light. Okay, these are
sparkling chick drinks. I thought you were going to say, like,
I have three whiskeys.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
No, and not a night like.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
There are some of our friends that get down like that.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
There are some of our friends that I don't do it.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
I don't do that. I mean I needmore because I
had to put the brakes on that. But oh, by
the way, I'm gonna take I love these mushrooms. Shout
out to New Tropics. Oh, neotropics, nootropics, neotropics.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
I have that. They sent me some. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
And the bars yeah, the bars, Yeah, I have them.
They're awesome.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Check it out to the lady that DMed me. That's
who is any au t R O P. I S Yes,
I think that's it.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Yeah, good after it. Heather Drew Brow. I love life
in the hills, so I always take the high road.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
That's expected.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Does she live in the hills of OC I'm such
like a critical thinker. I can't you.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Know, Will I'm not that familiar, but I would imagine
she lives up somewhere high Okay, because she's rich.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
She's rich, honey, rich.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Honey, Gina, I may work in real estate, but that
doesn't mean I'm buying what you're selling.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Cute, cute Katie. I swear to tell the truth, the
whole truth, and nothing but my truth. It's like when
I should I'll never do your dirty work. But I
was doing everyone.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
That's a revelation I read. I wasn't expecting this confession. Girl,
don't telling yourself now. Well, I didn't know I was
doing a everybody's Well, you found out the hard way.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Why I found out a bit?
Speaker 2 (11:03):
You found out the hard way, Tamra Judge. I'm taking
a hard look in the mirror, and my reflection is
still hot.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
I made fun of her this morning.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
What'd you do?
Speaker 1 (11:12):
I just said, I this kind of Burston Well, but
she I mean, I get that it's a throwback. She
already did something about being hot. So the first one
was I'm the hottest housewife in Orange County? Then what
was the other hot reference? Housewives come younger, but they
don't come hotter.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
I don't really like young housewives. I don't think that
it's a smart thing.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
So you didn't like me.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
I do like you. I'm saying you wise beyond your years.
And some of us aren't.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
But yeah, I mean it is all the taglines. They're creative.
It kind of fits to what they are.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
But it really kind of does do. People always ask
you like how do you come up with your tagline?
And I'm like, it's a collaboration between the woman and
the producers. You can change little words and things like that,
but it also reflective of your season, like what's going
on with you?
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Yeah, so you and you got like, at least for me,
two of the seasons that I was on, I went
into a closet and like, read like twenty lines.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
I do that in my closet too. I do that
in all my closets. Go in the closet and read
these lines. Okay, okay, so I would just.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Read them, and by lines, I mean that are taglines not.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Because there's several options and then ultimately you don't know
which one is being chosen.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
You can say no, though, like there was a couple
that I said no absolutely.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Now there are a couple that you just scratch out
because it's just like, hey, that's that ain't rid you know,
that's too much.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
But this episode was pretty good. It starts out with
Katie and Gina meet up to get scalp treatments. Gina
has accepted Katie's apology and wants to move forward, but
it's not fully trust her.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Agreed.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
I also want this scalp massage.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Yeah, you should get one.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
They have one ap pellicure, which is amazing.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
I love pellicure. I can't do the scalp massage, but
I'll do something else.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
You can do the body scrub.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
I'll do the body scrub. Just because my hair's colored
all the time, I can't pull on it. But yeah,
well I get color every fourteen days. I have to
be careful.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Well, can you tell me something about having blonde or hair?
Why does it want to turn an orange?
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Well, you need to tone it you or use a
purple shampoo or something like that.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
It's really a pain in the bucks. I'm like to
keep icy.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Blonde is a job.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
So you use purple shampoo? How often?
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Once a week?
Speaker 1 (13:23):
What kind?
Speaker 2 (13:24):
I'll give you the name unless their parent is saying.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
I'm like, listen, somebody's gonna want this advice because there's
a lot of us out there that have orange hair.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Yeah, you need to you should do purple shampoo to
take the brass out and to take out the orange
and yellow, take the brass out, and you can do
it like once a week, but be careful because it
does deposit color and it can it's a little bit
on the dryer side, so you need to like do
a mask as well.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Do you think But in like two to three months time,
I'll have like the drew Berry more pixie by then.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Yes, I do. Your hair looks like it's growing pretty fast.
All right, I'm in for it, though you're giving me.
Don't take this the wrong way like Mia Pharaoh Rosemary's Baby.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
No, I love that one. I'm fine with what Matt
said earlier.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
I wasn't what did he say.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
I'm not gonna call her out.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
But it's like did you say Sandy Duncan in the
pewter pan? Oh god?
Speaker 1 (14:15):
He said the fitness like Susan Powder.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Stop the insanity. Wait, Matt, that is actually and since
fitness is kind of your thing, girl, we need to
win a unit tard and some like oh I'm.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Wearing a unitard? Hold on, what did you wear?
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Dare you?
Speaker 1 (14:33):
I will wear it.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
I'll get into eighties. Shit, I'll put my hair on
a side pony and get.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
It in Okay, fine, eighties next week.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Eighties eighties, that's an agreement. Remind me text me though,
because I gotta get my look together.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
Yeah, her looks gonna be better than mine.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
It's not. I'm just saying, I gotta remember. I love that.
We need to put like gel. We need to because
Susan Powder's hair was.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Like like sheldin up. I mean I always get the
best people. Normally, I get Kate plus eight.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Oh hell no, when we better not have that wedge
that's not coming like the Karen like the We're not
giving you that wedge. All right, here we go, moving on,
(15:21):
Tamara and Emily meet up. Tamar thinks s Gretchen looked
like an episode of Toddler's and Tiaras at the Hot
Pot lunch. I'm just gonna say, big fan of Toddler's
and Tiaras right here. However, Tamar, you're onto something.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Emily thinks Tamara always tries to rationalize her actions. She does,
she does. Emily is correct here, Yeah, Tamra has an
explanation for everything. Sometimes it's right, sometimes it's wrong.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
And that's just how it goes.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
That's how it goes.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Then, Jen, Heather and Shannon meet up for lunch. Shannon
received a text from Katie claiming she hadn't shared the
recording with anyone but her husband, but on the phone,
Alexis told Heather that Katie played the record for her
and Jen Jen claimed she was not there when the
recording was played. Katie says she has never hung out
with Alexis Salon.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
So much of this come on Heather Dubrow for putting
this together. I really liked Heather this episode. Jen. I
don't know if you're not remembering, but you did it.
And you know, Bravo's good with the old backup. They
love a flashback girl. So we need to apologize for
that right away. And why not just say yeah, I
was there, or if you don't remember, if you say hey,
(16:29):
I don't know, it could possibly not be. I'm not
quite sure if I remember. We did. We did get
in a fight about it. I said, I'm not quite
sure what.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Because you said you didn't remember, but you have a
good memory.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
I know, but I didn't at that time. I said,
it's possible I don't remember.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
I'm talking about the time on the stairs, not the
time when I cried by the way, when I go
back to the memories.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Okay, looks like I don't know. I don't hold on.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
I don't even remember what we were fighting about.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
It's not important, but I just remember that I didn't remember.
And then and we had a melt out.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
We had we had a melt well, I had a
bigger melt down because I left.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
I know. But it's okay.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
But this is what I'm gonna say. If we're going
to keep harping consistently on Katie lying, we have to
call everybody out when they lie.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Go ahead, keep going.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
So let's call jin out when she's lying. Let's call it.
Like Shannon the other night was on Watch what Happens Live?
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Lying, what'd she say? Didn't watch?
Speaker 1 (17:25):
She said that, you know, she essentially she was coming
after Katie. And she's like, I have never lost it
on production or any and everybody knows. That's not true.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
And no, that's not true.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
If we're going to do it, like if we're all
gonna I truly believe that Katie is getting iced out.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
I I truly believe, but there are reasons to ice
her out. In my opinion, I see why these women
are icing her out.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
But then everybody needs to pull their pants.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Up and take it and just take responsibility if you
made a mistake.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Yeah, and tell us. Don't make us have to go
through the backtracking of was Alexis there? Was? Who there?
Who else came?
Speaker 2 (18:02):
So Katie says she has never hung out with Alexis
alone helped me out here? Is that true or false?
Speaker 1 (18:08):
That could be true, but that's why she's saying that
Jen was there. Why were people so close to their
table at that restaurant. I don't like to apologize.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
I didn't like that. I don't like that at all.
And I'll tell you something, when you go to shoot
the shows like this, like it's just not good because
people who are at places that were at that and
then they listen and then they go, it's just bad.
I wish we didn't have to do that.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
They were crammed in. I mean, they had to apologize
to the people next to them, to the people.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
I'm actually kind of shocked they left it in because
we've apologized to people too.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Yeah, I'd be like, I'm really, I'm really sorry. Well
we are embarrassing. Then there's having a birthday party for herself.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Which I love. Have yourself two or three.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
You know, do you mind months later?
Speaker 2 (18:57):
No, I don't care, like whatever, Like whenever.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
You get around, whenever you're filming, have a birthday.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Party, when, of course, when you're filming, have two or
three durit and I celebrated three times, you know what
I mean? So who cares? At this point in my life?
I wanted whatever?
Speaker 1 (19:11):
But you know what I have kept thinking about When
they were talking about the price of this birthday party,
I didn't like that. Well, they said three times.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
The amount of thirty three times three is nine nine.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
So huh, four times three.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Times four is twelve. That's what I'm saying. Three times
four is twelve, so it's one hundred.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
And twenty grand. But then, what is the other thing
we listened to about money on this episode that completely
baffled me Regarding money? This is a quiz. I'm stuck
Jen's son.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
I've signed for that loan I wanted. I wanted to
die for that child.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
I that's the same amount as the party, and this child,
Heather du Bross, could have essentially paid for gens And.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
He's going to be a young marine and he signed.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
It's not even his own college.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Who's is it?
Speaker 1 (20:06):
It's his brothers it's not. He's not. I think he's
signing off on his.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Brother's college USC tuition. That's what it said down on
the lower third. I'm going to tell you something. Dawson
is his name, right, Yeah, Hey Dawson. I'm sorry. You're
a great guy. But like what Ryan said, which is,
you want to have a life, if you want to
have a car, Ryan was giving him good advice, which is, like, dude,
(20:31):
this is too much for you to take on as
a young kid. You're going to be a marine. Do
you know how much they make?
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Well, I want to know.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
I've gotten some schooling lately and these VA benefits and
that shit fucking blows well.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
It made me pissed at Jen's ex husband me too.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
How dare you let that?
Speaker 1 (20:49):
How dare you do that to your son on purpose?
It's I would understand. If it was for his college, well,
that's fine, his own college, then he's making a choice
in its.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Investing him yourself, he's investing in himself. But to do
that for your brother, whoever this brother is, you better
fucking be a fucking brain surgery.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
You better be valedictorian and then become some sort of
a surgeon and help your brother out later on.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
You can really have to.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
The pressure is on.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
The pressure is on in Dawson. That's a really lovely
thing for you to do. But my god, child, Yeah,
way to saddle yours. I just cringed for Dawson.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
I couldn't believe it.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
But I know Ryan made a very good point.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
I have to say.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
I can't help it what you're liking.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Ryan, Ryan's not driving me nuts this season.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Which is good.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Not driving me nuts. No, I mean Jen's driving me
nuts because I think that she has to have a
better memory if she can comment that much on Instagram.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Oh, stay off the Instagram. Just let it be what
it's going to be.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Me or her. But you are we fighting?
Speaker 2 (21:51):
No, not you, I'm talking about her, Like, how about
this shoot the show? Whatever happens happens, don't go back
on social media and try and clean it up.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
But do you think she is fibbing a bit and
acting the way she's acting because she noticed that she
was kind of a favorite last year and now she
just wants to keep up being the favorite.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
I think that's an individual thing. I can't speak to
her motivation because I don't really know. I don't know
her but I think sometimes when you feel empowered by
the audience, you're willing to step out and comments make
bigger mistakes.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
Then Katie talks about spending time with her son Max.
Katie got crap for letting her son decide where he
wanted to live. This is the part of Katie I
wanted to see. I can't believe she opened up so
much about it.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
Well, and I don't think that they should be giving
her a crap. Kids should decide where they want to live.
I actually like Katie in this moment. Uh, and we
shouldn't be giving her shit for whatever she had to
do for these kids to live wherever. Now, then you
can't go around recording people, you can't talk to bloggers,
and you can't isolate yourself on a whole cast. How
(23:00):
hard it is to take an entire cast to not
want to work with you. That's like some real work.
You've had some very hard work, right.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Yeah, I mean I had to put in a lot
of work.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Just kidding, well, you you did. I mean to nobody
ever did not want to film with you? That is
not true.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
I was kidding somebody else that we didn't.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Want to film with Wow, that's her fault. Well, yeah,
that's on her.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
That's on her. But no, I think that Katie, when
she's in her moments alone and she's sharing about her past,
I'm so interested in what she has to say, and.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
I think it comes from a good place because I
think she was really not in a place where she
could take care of the kids and she did the
right thing. And hey, moms, like, don't go back and
criticize her for that just because she had to make
a tough choice. You don't know all of the circumstances
and maybe you were able to work it out differently.
She did what she had to.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Do, and now clearly they have a good relationship because
he's coming out here.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Well, she's kept it, she's kept working on it, and
she's kept it up. It happens in life and families
and they come back together and kids come back around,
Like stop with the judge.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
But do you think Katie's doing all of this trying
to investigate video, do all of that so she can
try to make a real friend on there because Gina
isn't it.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
No, I don't know what. I don't know what's inspiring
Katie to do all this shit, but it's really bad.
Whomever's coaching you on this. If you're being coached, don't
do that. And if it's coming from inside, don't do
it either and stop.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
And then also if you are going to do it,
then have a good response at least you know, at
least if you're going to do it, have like what
did what did Emily say about Tamar this week? She
has no rat rathless?
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Yeah, she doesn't, and she just tends to apologize. I'm sorry, Well,
don't do shit.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
You know. Then it's just like you're like a dog
who got in trouble. You're just like, oh, beat, you're
beat down. But like beat, it's too much, it's too much.
Then Emily, Shannon, and Gina go bowling with their significant others.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
Wait, so Shannon and her new man, Adam from Love
Hotel show matching bowling shirts and Shannon had eliminated when
she was on Love Hotel. Here's what I love. We've
seen three of these Love Hotel contestants.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
And I don't remember one of their names.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
How about this? Why are they trying to push that
show on us?
Speaker 1 (25:18):
I don't know. I didn't watch it the first time, so.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Why are we watching? I feel like if you sign
up for Love Hotel, you got to come on one
of these shows.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
You got to Well, I want to know all these
guys live in OC Are they flying in for this?
Speaker 2 (25:30):
I never watched the show. Apparently it did well. Congratulations
to the women that were on it. I love to
see women winning on ratings. However, I don't need to
see I mean, it's cute, it's cute.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
You thought it was cute those matching outfits? Who would
do it?
Speaker 2 (25:45):
No, not the matching outfits. I think it's cute that
they bring the guys on. It's a cute idea. But
I don't want to see it again.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
No, I don't want to see it again. And but
don't worry, we do see it again in this episode.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
Why we see it?
Speaker 1 (25:54):
No, we see another that's a different guy.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
I know. That's the whole thing is like, we see that.
It's a rotating cast. I do like that. She's like, oh,
I'm not sleaving with him.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
Like, would you want to date any of those guys?
Speaker 2 (26:04):
No? I would not neither you neither. My taste is
a little different.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
So they go bowling, then Shane asking Shannon if she
was going to crash when she got home I don't
know if that was intentional, like a little bit of
a bit.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
It was not intentional. Shane's not that guy.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
I don't think it was. You realized, but he realized right.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
After he's not doing that. And then Gina questions Adam incessantly,
which is cute.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
It's cute, but it kind of felt like a bit.
That felt like a bit to me. It was a
bit like, I don't know that she's that Quippi.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
Naturally felt a little forced.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
It felt, and then it was like, oh, this is
getting good traction. People are laughing.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
No. Jen and Ryan are still working through their parenting
styles together. Dawson is going off to boot camp for
the military. Jenn is proud of him, but also sad
he's leaving. Yes, you should be sad. It's scary, Jan.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
Your ex husband having your son co sign on another
son's loan.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
Fucked up, not cool, not cool. You put that you
put Dawson at such a fucking disadvantage, like you're saddling
him with all of this debt he does not need.
He's going into the military. They make no money.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
But I think this, I think Dawson must have something
where he just really wants his dad, And you know
this is the want to wants approval because like I
think Dawson was the one that was like staying in
the one bedroom apartment with his dad.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
He's loyal, He's loyal.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Then Heather and Tama meet up for lunch. Heather thinks
Tamar has been very calm lately. Tamar has been going
through a lot with therapy and everything going on with
Teddy Teddy, why did they have to show all these embarrassing.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
Moments with you guys.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
Yeah, but because they weren't moments, they were tiktoks.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Well, you know it shows that your relationship. You have
an authentic relationship with Tamra. You guys host several podcasts together.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Then show is doing things we would actually be doing,
not like our tiktoks that are to be like, listen
to the pod, dun't dum like so cheesy. And I
was in a Bikinian one.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
You look fucking great. What are you complaining about?
Speaker 1 (28:12):
I hated it, I loved it, But I also wonder,
like I think Heather has a way of allowing women
to decide, like their their way of handling things, like
she never gets involved.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Likes I like that.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
I like that about her.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
It makes a good show.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Of course, that way, you're not, you know, directing someone's energy,
You're allowing them to react authentically.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
I do too, and I and I'm liking Tamor this season.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
I'm not. I don't feel like Tamra of last season
is showing up this season so far. I mean it's
episode three. Who knows she could come in here and
do whatever.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
So now we get back to.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
There has a birthday party, and she told Terry that
she spent four times the amount on this party then
she did on her Nobuo party. So we've done some
quick math that would be one hundred and twenty.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
K and that's a lot.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Yeah, it is a lot of money.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
It's a lot.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
It's a lot of money. But they make a lot
of money.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
And there wasn't I know, but to have that on
one party not that much money.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
We've seen it done, I mean.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
We've seen it done. But when I see it done,
I think about the times that I couldn't even get
the right glasses because I was like, I'm not spending
the extra money for stems.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
But can I be honest with you, like Heather, they
made it. I mean we were all kind of there. Yeah,
they've been really fortunate, so this is what they can do.
And if that's our birthday party, that's great.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
I mean it looked like a fun party.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
It looked nice. I would have enjoyed it. I mean,
she really did pull it out.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
It was the second housewife show that we've seen this
past two weeks where the party that they've had was
once in a church.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
I don't like that. I felt like, are we looking
at like Christian Broadcasting network like TV.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
I just watched The Duggar Family second season.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Oh is it good?
Speaker 1 (30:14):
It's called Shiny Happy People. It's like the I can't,
I can't, I can't watch Righteous Gemstones. No, what I
like it?
Speaker 2 (30:24):
I think? So I'm gonna start. Okay, did you watch
like Tammy Fan Jim Baker or was that before your time?
Speaker 1 (30:29):
Before my time? Yeah? But I mean you've got to
watch Shiny Happy People at least just you could start
with season two.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
Okay, but it is is it great?
Speaker 1 (30:38):
It's great? But I was I was thinking about that.
I was thinking for a Housewives of Miami and the church.
And now here we are at Heather's birthday in the church.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
You know, we had someone have a cardiac event in
a church in Spain.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Oh yes, I recall. Maybe it's not good for housewives.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
I don't think we should be anywhere in our churches. No,
let the Lord, let rest or something.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
But so all these party things are happening, and we're
just waiting for the moment that.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
We're all there for, which is Shannon and Katie.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
Which is Shannon and Katie. And also I'm like, is
Tamara coming? Are you coming?
Speaker 2 (31:13):
I look I like it that you don't force people
to come, like.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
I want to know if I'm waiting for. I mean,
we get it at the end.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
Well, here's I listen. When I was in a bad
place with somebody, I didn't go, Yeah, I didn't go
like you were not going to catch me there, Like
I ain't showing up and pretending fuck you.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
But I think that's the thing. I don't think if
she shows up, I don't think there's going to be
any pretending. No, which we know she does show up
because we see a blurred face and then we see
somebody have a break with Tamra. Yeah, see them walking in.
We're gonna get to and talk about Shannon and Katie
sit down. But before that, I think Joe Delarosa is
the blocked out face who's season one.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
And that Slade's girl right.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
And yes, which I think will probably lead to drama
with Gretchen, Which how are you feeling about Kretchen? Because
Gretchen went online and said this whole thing about how
you know they just asked me so many times? It
was an offer I couldn't turn down.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
Okay, great, don't explain yourself.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
We don't care, we don't care.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Go ahead, do it. If that's what you want to do,
just do it. Show up and kill it.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
Show up and kill it. And I'm sorry. That's actually
what a negotiation is called.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
Just do it.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
You You get offered an amount and then you can
say okay, or you say I would like this amount,
and then they come back to you with this amount.
That's how all negotiations work. And I you know, offers
you can't turn down when I'm not trying to be
a dick and have my girl Tameras back here because
I'm just you know, I'm I'm blindly fighting for her
(32:45):
by byes. Yes, but like, haven't we read that they
were having a little bit of money trouble, Like how
much is too much to turn down. I'm saying, I
mean not much.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
I'm quiet.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
I don't think she's getting like Julia Roberts, money to be.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
Ain't nobody getting that? That's what that. Ain't nobody getting
that despite what you've heard.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
I'm a good friend, guys, I'm loyal. So I'm gonna
go for it no matter what. Can't help myself.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
Okay, So then she So Shannon brings her other friend, Phil.
She also met him on Love Hotel. He seems nice
but emily talking about his did he I could feel it?
Is this wrong for me to say? But did he
have a little cheek killer or is that just his
(33:40):
bone structure? He looks he felt a little up, I
felt a little plastic surgery.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
I've never gotten like.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
I think it's one thing. I think it's one thing
to like be neat and well groomed. Yeah, to be
like to be neat and well groomed. But guys don't
need that shit.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
I don't need to see that there's like a divot
in your face.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
Yeah I don't.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
I just I don't need it. I don't want to
just I'd.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
Nles Yeah, I'd rather see like a I just I'm
a girl, you be a guy.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
So now we're going to get it into the biggest
part of what this entire episode is thought us up to,
because it was even though I liked.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
This episode, we're not going to talk about how Gretchen
broke slades dick.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
Oh shit, I forgot about the dig fracture. Sorry, Okay,
that's impossible.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
It says it really isn't a fracture because the penis
isn't a bone. However, you can break your penis if
you severely bend it or hit it while you have
in erection. Okay, and this happens when the erectile tissues.
Tear surgery is required to treat with stitches used to
repair the tissue, and if not treated, result in a
curvature of the penis and difficulty urinating. So I know
(34:52):
someone who broke and they had to diglove it, which
means you have to go down, tear it off, fix it,
and then sew it back.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
When you say the glove, I think of like circumcision.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
But kind of yeah, like going down and you know,
and then then fixing the I don't think he's exaggerating.
Maybe he just sprained well, apparently spray a penis sprain.
But but then you have a curved penis.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
And why she need to tell everyone? And she then
she acted out the curve. Oh god, what please tell
me you saw their social media?
Speaker 2 (35:30):
No, I don't look at that ship. What is what happened?
Speaker 1 (35:33):
Oh I'm not only going to say because I'll say
something wrong.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
Is it them as a couple?
Speaker 1 (35:37):
But no, Jen and Gretchen, Okay, go and do this
like this is what it's like to fight for yourself.
And then they do like just so many inappropriate things
on there. They've deleted it. Let's put it this way.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
Oh so, but it got a great response.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
But it makes me question. I mean, Gretchen, this doesn't so,
but it made me question.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
Jen's motivations or something.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Yeah, like how she's not like this is a bad
plan for me. Ah so, now I just I have
my radar on. I have my radar on.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
After this, someone send it to me. I'm sure it's
captured somewhere in the universe.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
I may or may not have it.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
I knew, I knew you would. Okay, I knew you would.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
Okay, now you get in and talk about the Shannon
and King.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
Okay, So here was my favorite part of the whole thing,
which is why they saved it for last. Shannon and
Katie sit down to talk, and Katie sincerely apologizes. I'm
a pause on that. Shannon tells Katie what she did
was illegal, possibly I mean recording someone without their knowledge. Yeah,
I need a full legal opinion. Katie makes excuses for
why she recorded Shannon, and she did. Katie then tells
(36:49):
Shannon she never let Alexis listen to it. That is
not true and it's bad. Shannon tells Katie that she
is now in the category of John Jansen and she's
worse than Alexis Billino and Tamra jed. She just got
a drag old Tamar. And then however, she's worse than
Alexis Bilino. Here's what I want to say. Shannon's really
upset and she has every right to be. Like that
(37:11):
was an active lawsuit. It was a lot, and I
wouldn't forgive Katie for that.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
I probably wouldn't forgive Katie. I thought either. But Katie,
just have a decent response to something.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
But you can't. But let me ask you this, what
good number one did you think that was gonna do?
And then you said, I just showed it to my husband.
You shouldn't be showing it to anybody, and why.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
And why can't Katie just say what? I would respect
her more if she said, like, like, if you did
that and you were acting like an asshole and we
were filming opening titles or whatever it was, and you
were just out of hand, and I filmed you because
I didn't know any better, and then you caught me,
I'd be like, Erica, I don't know if i'd actually
do this. I'm just saying I would appreciate watching this better. Erica,
(37:53):
you're acting like an asshole, and I wanted to make
sure that other people saw My bosses saw it.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
I would you.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
Would break me through the coals, but at least we'd
have a real answer.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
You'd have an answer. But and then to say, I
just showed it to my husband, and Shannon brought up
a very good boy. Katie said, I was on a meeting,
and Shannon brought up, you canceled a business meeting to
record me.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
And a meeting for what what business? As Erica would
say for what?
Speaker 2 (38:19):
For what? Or what?
Speaker 1 (38:20):
Or what?
Speaker 2 (38:21):
What? What are you gonna do about it? She's worse
than Alexis Billino and Emma Judge and Shannon walks out
after yelling at Katie.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
Well. According to the Sun, Shannon had to be told
to cool it after filming this as she was taking
her anger out on the crew. We also heard there
were some anger issues a couple of seasons ago with
Shannon where she's kind of yelling at the crew.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
Yeah, I mean, listen, we all get frustrated with everyone.
The crew gets frustrated with us. I get to listen,
I'm snappy. No, but you can't like full on How
you can't You can't full on lose it on them.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
You also can't say like I'm not filming this, I'm
not doing this, so I'm done.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
I'm done like that really walking out.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
You know I've walked out, But you have to walk
out on camera, like you have to own your walking out.
Like I can't do this. I'm having a hard time,
like not like I'm not filming this right now.
Speaker 2 (39:15):
I need to process this. No, girl, if I had
to prove I can get through what I got through,
you can get through that.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
I can't even process my next sentence.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
Well, you've going through a lot too, I mean you're
going through like heavy shit.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
But I'm liking it. I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
I'm entertained. I liked this episode.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
I think this season is better than last season.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
I like it. I mean, I can't look. I'm not
going to judge because it's just episode three, so it's
a long road to go. But I do. I do
like the first three episodes so far. I think it's good.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
I do too well. Thanks guys for tuning in to
another episode of Diamonds in the Rough. If you have
any questions, thoughts, are concerns, make sure to leave them
in our comment section for us to ignore.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
Thank you, Thank you. I do
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