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On RHOM, why does Stephanie keep bringing up Todd when she hasn’t even met him?!

Then, Jenn Fessler hops on to spill what really went down on that cruise with Guerdy. Was there anything we didn’t see?

Jenn makes it clear, she doesn’t owe Guerdy a thing and she’s not lying for anyone.

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Two Teas in a Pod with Teddy Mellencamp and Cameridge Edge.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
Hey, guys, welcome back to other episode of Two Teas
in the Pod with myself and Dolores. Dolores, where did
you just get out of the shower?

Speaker 3 (00:21):
What's that I did? I got called to do something
at the last minute.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
Oh so to jump in.

Speaker 3 (00:27):
I had to jump in, so apologize. Just roll with me, guys.
Well my hair.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
I drive the front end, but the back is still
wet and I'm wearing the glasses because there's no makeup here.

Speaker 3 (00:39):
Same as well because I can't see and there's no makeup.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
Yeah, so I'm headed to the green screen to film
the after show today.

Speaker 3 (00:47):
I have heard it.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
We didn't do that last year. So excited about doing that.
I think fun.

Speaker 3 (00:53):
Yeah, so at this point it's like fun, it's snarky.
You can be snarky.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
And so I was so like, they show you clips
or something, because I don't know what people film. I
only know what I ow. I don't know. Well, I
guess we'll see. Did have you ever filmed the after show?

Speaker 3 (01:08):
I did. We got canceled from the after show because
it was one of our punishments before we got canceled.
So the first chopping block thing that the first thing
on the chopping block was you guys aren't behaving. Now
we're taking the after show from you, which is usually
fun and you're usually paired with someone who you get
along with. So who would that be for you?

Speaker 4 (01:29):
Well?

Speaker 2 (01:30):
I got Gina and Emily with me. Okay, I thought
it was going to be mean Heather, but that's good.
I like the switch up. I like Gina and Fine,
so we'll be fine.

Speaker 3 (01:37):
I like to see with them.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
Heather is not as snarky as I am, so maybe
they want the two other snarky girls, the three of us,
the three students.

Speaker 3 (01:47):
That's gonna be a good one. I'll tune in for that.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
We didn't do it last year. I don't even know
if we did the year before. I can't remember. I
think it's been literally years since I did it. And
the last time I did it was with Gina.

Speaker 3 (02:00):
Yeah. Now I love Gina, love her.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
Yeah, she's sweet. So we are going to recap Real
Housewives of Miami Season seven, Episode seven. It was quite
a doozy. I was shook. I don't know how I feel,
I don't know how the audience and the viewer like,
our followers are going to who they're going to side
with because it's kind of nasty on both sides. But

(02:23):
did it take it to another level? We'll get to that.
But after the show starts off, Oh my gosh, my
heart was just melting. They introduced Adriana Alexia to her
their adopted beautiful boys.

Speaker 3 (02:37):
Well, I have to say, Martina looks so much younger.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
Oh my, I just got children, I got you, you know.

Speaker 3 (02:46):
And I'm not saying that because Julia said it. She's like,
she's like so young with them and running around with them.
But it feel I feel like, besides the fact that
now she's doing much better, I know, healthwise, but these
kids have brought a life in her and she's still
good with them, I know.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
And did you notice under her breath? One of the
boys said something in a scene and it just made
me cheer up, and Martina says to him, I'll always
be her for you.

Speaker 3 (03:14):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
Oh I melted. I melted. And I know she's getting
a lot of shit on social media right now because
the sarrogacy comment she made. She said on social media,
she put this in writing, saragacy is wrong. Sometimes you
can't have it all.

Speaker 3 (03:33):
She's allowed to have her own opinion. She is entitled
to her own opinion.

Speaker 2 (03:37):
But you know how the social media and starts.

Speaker 3 (03:41):
And they're entitled to their opinion.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
So do you think that maybe she was saying that
because she thinks maybe there's so many kids that needs
homes that you should adopt first. Is that you think
maybe that's her message? I mean, I can't speak for her,
but I'm like, you know, some people actually want to
carry their own child. They want to feel that and
they can, so they need help. I don't see anything
wrong with it.

Speaker 3 (04:04):
I don't see anything wrong with it either. I don't
know that she explained what she meant by that, and
what else could she mean other than there's so many
children that need home.

Speaker 2 (04:14):
That's the only thing I can think of, because it
doesn't make any sense to me.

Speaker 3 (04:17):
But it wasn't the wrong It wasn't the right thing.
It probably wasn't the right No, not probably, it wasn't
the right thing to say. And I mean I didn't
really like it that she said it.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
I didn't like it at all. Now so she double
down on it, she do shit, so Adriana and her then, yeah,
it is Adrian and Alexia are there to visit with
the boys, and we get to see a little glimpse
of the old Adriana, the snarky, bitchy one that you know, like.

Speaker 3 (04:48):
Oh he likes that's the reason the reason everyone hates her.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
Yeah, yeah, we we get to see it now. Yep,
she is back.

Speaker 3 (04:57):
It must have been that young day that got her
maybe maybe fail herself again.

Speaker 2 (05:02):
So Julia gets a call from Caroma Brown and he
invites her and the other ladies and housewives to the
National LGBTQ plus Task Force. It's a beautiful event, but
I the fact that Adriana was so hungry and nasty
at that moment, like, oh, the boys like me better,

(05:23):
And I'm like, I don't bring gifts, like you know, I.

Speaker 3 (05:27):
Should have brought a damn gift. I mean, yeah, no,
Alexia is very maternal. Adriana, you just like it was
wrong to act the way that you did, and that's it.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
I think it was wrong. But the boys they're not
missing out on anything because they got Billenciaga's shirts on
one of them did. I'm like, oh, they're already dead.

Speaker 3 (05:50):
Take out the eggs and they were, you know, one
had the go on the leash. I couldn't have loved
this more. I think we needed this lightheartedness after all
the crafts going on and this, and.

Speaker 2 (06:03):
You remember all you remember Martina wasn't really into the
farm in the very beginning. But now I think this
is an amazing place for the boys. Yes, so I
think she's going to be all about it now.

Speaker 3 (06:16):
Those kids are beautiful. They hug they when they hugged
Alexia when she walked in, like she melted.

Speaker 4 (06:21):
I know.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
I Oh. It was just such a good It was
the only time in probably housewife history that I wanted
to see more of the kids. Normally, I'm not, No,
I really don't really want to see the kids. I
really don't. So this was like a really great moment.
So we find out Marisol has her first colon oscarp
bey at fifty seven. Not very smart, you guys. You
shouldn't wait that long. Terry Debrow just did something on

(06:45):
social media saying, they say you only need one every
five to ten years, but I recommend you get one
more often. You can never be you know, too sure
that or you know something's not going on.

Speaker 3 (06:59):
I pulling cancer is becoming prevalent in younger people these days,
so please be careful. If you have any symptoms, you
need to see the doctor right away. Look it up.
It's a thing. They're finding it in people in their twenties,
so please pay attention to your body and signs and

(07:21):
anything that may be going on with you down there.
Don't be embarrassed.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
I have an appointment tomorrow with a gastrologist and I
have a feeling I'm going to be scheduled for a calling.

Speaker 3 (07:32):
I'm sure you are, but I had them, I've had,
I've had three. It's the right thing to do. So.
And if you don't know someone who hasn't gone, that's
of age, which I think it's the age is what now?
And that's forty early forties. Go you need to go.
You have to make people go.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
Yeah, just go. It's the prep that sucks, the actual procedures. Oh,
it's painless.

Speaker 3 (07:52):
Feel clean.

Speaker 2 (07:53):
You feel clean or your asshole burns one or the other.

Speaker 3 (07:56):
You feel clean.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
So Adrian, it has to be snarky and says I
didn't know. I didn't thank Julia. Was that Marissol's ass?
She Marisol tells Stephanie, now to get into that rolls
Royce I'm assuming it's Stephanie's rolls Royce right. Beautiful, it's
got its own little bar in there. Marisol tells her
all about, Oh my god, I don't have one. I

(08:21):
wouldn't know. I would not know, nor would I need
a bar in my car.

Speaker 3 (08:25):
Just doesn't I'm good.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
Yeah, I mean I have a refrigerator in my range over.
That's about as good as it good.

Speaker 3 (08:33):
That's very cool.

Speaker 2 (08:35):
Yeah it is, so, Stephanie says to Marisol. Oh so
Colon Osby is good. How about your liver?

Speaker 3 (08:45):
She I mean, she border lines everything to say, I
have something to say, but but not right now. I'm
gonna look at it.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
You're gonna hold it, Okay, I say, after this episode,
I appreciate Stephanie. I think she's a really good addition.
I think she's a great newbie. But she rides that line, Yes,
she rides the line of being a good housewife and
being kind of mean.

Speaker 3 (09:13):
Well like, let's see, you know, she really wants this,
She really wants this. This girl came to have this job.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
And okay, okay, so how do you do I sent
her to have this job.

Speaker 3 (09:28):
You're a big shot, first season big shot. No one's
really comfort you yet, Stephanie. Let's see, I don't think
she was what you didn't see her in the commercial
with Melissa Gorca.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
No, Melissa got a commercial two with her doing.

Speaker 3 (09:44):
What they're like in a beauty salon. They're getting their
hair done and it's for I don't remember what it was.

Speaker 2 (09:52):
Oh, it's so good of a commercial. You don't remember
what the product was?

Speaker 3 (09:55):
No, because I'm like crazy right now. Yeah, I just know,
I know. I just like their dresses. I like the
whole like look it was, I didn't see it. It's cute,
it's very cute.

Speaker 2 (10:08):
Well, good for them, congratulations. Now Julia thinks she and
Gerty are doing way better after the Greek Goddess aka
narcissist party. Well, we find out that Gerty doesn't think
the same.

Speaker 3 (10:19):
In the housewives world, you never know when things are really.

Speaker 2 (10:23):
Dropped, right, Well, they always come up, and you know what,
it's when you least expect it. It's like, didn't we
already kill this?

Speaker 3 (10:30):
Didn't I say I was sorry for that?

Speaker 2 (10:34):
I say I was sorry fifteen years No that I
did that, I didn't. Is it really that big of
a deal.

Speaker 3 (10:41):
I found that on social media you're mad at me. Huh,
welcome to the housewife world.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
Well, I think the girls are getting a little annoyed
because Stephanie's still talking about her money this time tomorrow,
compliments her necklace.

Speaker 3 (10:53):
Still in any other place in time, you would not
like this girl got out. What is it, Tamra, I
don't know.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
I think it's her snarky, it's not. I mean, she's
well as she goes on, she's more and more over
the top. I think she's going to push me. I
do think I think I'm at that breaking point after
this episode.

Speaker 3 (11:16):
I we'll talk more.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
We'll talk about what really in a little bit stuff
reel it in.

Speaker 3 (11:21):
Well, I still want to see how when somebody gets
enough balls to go after I don't know why they're
all sitting on their hands here. I want to see
how she handles that. Which, well talk. Yeah, I'm getting
all worked up. I'm like really worked up.

Speaker 2 (11:39):
So Kiky introduces Carmen Carrera, a model and former contestant
on RuPaul's drag Race, to.

Speaker 3 (11:45):
The group Beautiful Beautiful.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
Yes, we find out that Todd is texting Alexia. Okay, okay,
are we shocked?

Speaker 3 (11:54):
No? Like, no, it's the big deal. They're texting, they're banging.
She doesn't hide it. And let me tell you, see,
you never you could predict the weather better than you
can predict how fans handle something in any other place
in time. This is how things are changing, Like things
are as shifting in the bravel world in any other time.

(12:17):
Any woman who would still be with the man that
did this to her outwardly and having unapologetically I'm still
in love. I'm still seeing one of them. He walked
out in front of my son the way he did.
The boy was truly upset, lovely Frankie. Things were done
so egregiously, and she's still No one's going really after

(12:40):
her now, mean, which I don't want anyone to be mean.
I'm not judging her. I'm not a judger.

Speaker 2 (12:46):
But so you feel like people don't really have an
opinion about it.

Speaker 3 (12:50):
I don't see it. Am I missing it? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (12:53):
I think it's maybe because he's not filming so we
don't see him.

Speaker 3 (12:57):
But like even the girls and everybody cried for her
and with her, and they're like not like hold her
hand to the fire on this, Yeah, is Oh, I
don't get it. I know, Stephanie.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
Stephanie is Marisol is not excited because she finds out
that they were together last night. Now, I think that
Alexei is kind of hiding this in the sense that
she doesn't want the other girls to know. But she
ran into Julia while she was with Todd. They hung out,
they made out, they touched private parts. I'm sure a

(13:34):
lot went down.

Speaker 3 (13:35):
They do a lot of that PDI stuff. Did we
don't do that here? Like you know?

Speaker 2 (13:44):
Oh my god, A funny story. I had a meeting
yesterday at the house and Eddie came downstairs. My girlfriend
was with me, and Eddie came down and kissed me,
and she goes, what did you guys just see each
other for the first time today? And he's like, that
was weird? Like you, is it weird that I came
down and kissed you like that? Like like if I
hadn't seen you.

Speaker 3 (14:04):
No, that's nice. That's so sweet. That's like effect. It's
called affection. He's very affectionate, really sweet, more than me.
I mean, you guys aren't the mad humpers. I've spent
days with you at it. You guys like tongue in
each other in front of me. I'm sorry, I get
uncomfortable with those things.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
I don't like that either. I don't like it. I
don't like it.

Speaker 3 (14:24):
I don't allow my kids to do it. I was
never allowed to do it.

Speaker 2 (14:28):
Yeah no, no, okay.

Speaker 3 (14:31):
So there're all again, no judgment, but just don't do
it around me. Yeah, don't do it around me.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
So they're at this party. The women are having fun,
they're talking very loudly. There's a guy on stage trying
to talk. They are talking over him.

Speaker 3 (14:46):
I don't like that.

Speaker 2 (14:47):
I hate that with a passion.

Speaker 3 (14:49):
I don't like that, you know, with the worst time
I've ever seen that done, when New York Old New
York was add a domestic violence no Oh charity and
the women were up talking about their their stories that
would actually eviscerate anybody. I was very new as a housewife,

(15:11):
and I called producers and I said, I cannot be
around this ever. I am watching this. This is so
bad to me. There was no empathy, there was no nothing.
I mean, I don't do it.

Speaker 2 (15:24):
It's like it's just considerate, forget it, inconsiderate. It's like
being at the movie theater and the guy next to
you like trying to open up his damn candy and
making all this noise and eating his paw, and I
just I literally my skin crawls to the point where
I either have to move, but nowadays you can't move
because you have assigned seats and or like karate ch

(15:46):
chopping right in the Adam's apple. Like that just drives me,
what like, have some consideration with for people around you.

Speaker 3 (15:54):
Well, that's just it's yeah, it's rough.

Speaker 2 (15:59):
So seventy two hours at Gurty Celebration of Life. Here
we are a Gerty looks amazing in this white over
the top. Everybody that walked in was like, uh, this
is a wedding gown, Like this is insanity, this is beautiful.
So all the girls get there. Stephanie says the Greek

(16:20):
Narcissist party was for Todd. This is where she gets
really ballsy. Now I don't even know that Stephanie has
even met Todd.

Speaker 3 (16:28):
She hasn't, so it's.

Speaker 2 (16:29):
Really like kind of obnoxious that she keeps talking about
him when she's never even met him.

Speaker 3 (16:35):
See, I'm going to go back to how things are
changing in this world. Had this been another housewife new
housewife at another time, people would be like, oh, you're
trying too hard.

Speaker 2 (16:46):
Yeah, yeah, and she has not.

Speaker 3 (16:48):
Be received well, but she seems to be received well.

Speaker 2 (16:52):
That's the thing, Tam, You know what I'm saying, Like
I think, because she just owns it and doesn't give
a shit.

Speaker 3 (16:57):
Now.

Speaker 2 (16:57):
I think if MARAA. Saul was saying this to her,
it would hit differently because Marisol knows her and she
knows Todd and she knows what she went through. But
it's Stephanie, somebody that doesn't even really know Todd, just
she's new to the group. Now, Alexi I felt bad for.
She disagrees and says it was for all of them,
and Stephanie looks at her because Alexia says, we're all narcissists,

(17:21):
and Stephanie goes.

Speaker 3 (17:22):
And then that's when Alexia said she had enough at
that point, and she's like, speak for yourself.

Speaker 2 (17:28):
Yeah, She's like including you, and I'm like, oh shit,
Like she to me, it just sounded like the insult.

Speaker 3 (17:38):
She's coming in fig she's coming for the og.

Speaker 2 (17:41):
That's what I was gonna say. The insults are just
rolling off her tongue and girl is so quick.

Speaker 3 (17:46):
She's getting away with it, though, what is the what
are these girls afraid of? Because somebody knew on the
scene coming out. They're going to pay for that. She
would still be paying for telling Lisa she has no
being late. I'd be like Stephanie, I don't punch your clock, bitch.
You gotta be kidding me, But I will punch something
you keep it up in my face. Right, I'm like

(18:08):
sitting here saying, girls, where's your balls? Find them? Look
down and find them. Do you think they're not a
housewives show if you don't have balls?

Speaker 2 (18:18):
Do you think they're a little afraid of her?

Speaker 3 (18:22):
I don't know what the hell like. Are they just
not used to it or are they shocked that it's
coming out and they're not ready for it? But after
the first time in that sprinter when she jumped on Lisa,
I'll be ready for anything she's got to say, because
you already know what kind of housewife she is coming
into this.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
Yeah, well, Bravo likes her. Yeah, so Alexia says, you
know this is just too much. You know she's She's like,
I'm an impath, not a narcissist. And I agree with that.
I think that that Alexia has the biggest heart. She's
always like she and she's not a text her. She
will call you. She will talk to you, like when

(19:03):
Teddy first got diagnosed and was in the hospital, she
would call me and because of what Frankie had gone
through and give, you know, tell me all kinds of
things and you know, to pass on to the family
and all this stuff. And she's just such a sweet person.

Speaker 3 (19:17):
I do like her so much.

Speaker 2 (19:19):
Well, she finally has enough and just says, don't talk
about Todd, do not talk about.

Speaker 3 (19:24):
To so long?

Speaker 2 (19:25):
Yeah, I don't know, Like, did you.

Speaker 3 (19:27):
Just get here? What the hell is going on? What
are you girls letting this girl get away with this?
For let me see something. I don't want to see
touches on a screen from a year ago. I want
to see you, yeah, on this girl.

Speaker 2 (19:41):
Yeah. So Gertie makes this beautiful speech and her family leaves,
and I have to give it to her because she
had her children leave before she pulled this little stunt.

Speaker 3 (19:55):
The right thing to do. That is the right thing
to do. If you're going to do this, remove the children.

Speaker 2 (20:02):
So she gets back on the stage with her phone
and so she needs to set the record straight and
exposes to expose lies. Everybody was like, huh, gasp, what
the heck? What is going on? All the girls are like,
oh shit.

Speaker 3 (20:17):
They ran seemed to be bothered, and the most vocal
about it.

Speaker 2 (20:23):
Yeah, so she was. She was pissed off. Dirty gets
this projection screen and their screenshots of her text conversation
with Julia.

Speaker 3 (20:36):
So they all ran out. They all run out except
for Lisa.

Speaker 2 (20:43):
I think Lisa stayed, Adriana stayed, and Kiki stayed. The
other ones, I mean, they stuck around for a little bit,
but they start reading the screen shots and they're like,
this is dirty, Like, this is dirty? What is she doing?
Is it more dirty because it's at a cancer event.
If it was somewhere else would have been different. Is
it comparable to getting water thrown in your face? Like

(21:06):
I'm curious to see what the fans are gonna think,
because well.

Speaker 3 (21:09):
We don't know what the fans are gonna think. But
it was not. Apparently Jen Fessler was there. Yeah, so
I think she could give us more insight. You have
to understand, we're just seeing, you know, that minute of
it or whatever. It wasn't a cancer event. It was
a celebration of life for Gerdy and I think that

(21:32):
this is Gerty. She's saying two point zero and I'm
gonna show you now how I don't. I don't take
things anymore. I don't remember her ever taking shit from anyone,
do we?

Speaker 2 (21:43):
No, No, I don't think so.

Speaker 3 (21:45):
I mean, I've never seen her as a wilted flower
running around. No, she always stuck out for herself. But
the girls did take their stand on who they stood
behind on this, or whether it was who they stood
behind or what they believed in what she did. But
everybody universally said, I'll never text again, and Alexia said,

(22:07):
that's why I don't text.

Speaker 2 (22:09):
Yes, that's when it happened, but I would never text Shannon.
But doore ever again? Any so Jevity does that fuck off?

Speaker 3 (22:17):
Can maybe give us some insight about the the said
cruise that everyone's talking about. And let's give her a call.

Speaker 2 (22:27):
Yeah, let's give her a call. Let's get her on
here and see what she has to say. Well, I mean,
I understand her frustration, because there's nothing worse than being
called a liar when you're telling the truth. So I

(22:48):
understand Gerty's frustration.

Speaker 3 (22:50):
But I don't think. But I don't think.

Speaker 2 (22:54):
I don't think that's a place. This is not the
place to do it. It's how I feel and editors
didn't do her any justice by showing that first scene
introducing her children, very soft, sweet moment, and now Gertie's
coming in. Had they done this right after she had
water thrown in her face, I think it would land differently.

Speaker 3 (23:16):
Yeah. Yeah, I think timing is everything. Yep. And possibly
there would have been a better time to do this,
but she but I don't, of course I don't. I
don't show text. I don't fault her for what she did. Yeah.
So I'm curious to see where everyone else stands. We
see where the girls stand. I'm curious to see where

(23:37):
everyone else is going to stand on this.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
I think timing's everything, like you said, And I don't
know if this is the right time.

Speaker 3 (23:42):
But we're gonna find out. She's going to be on
Watch What Happens Live and they'll do the polls.

Speaker 2 (23:47):
Oh yeah. So those text messages, there was so many,
and they were so long.

Speaker 3 (23:52):
I couldn't.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
I agree with Larsa. I don't have the attention span
to sit there and read all of them. I just don't.

Speaker 3 (24:00):
I really don't funny read them.

Speaker 2 (24:02):
I don't know. I mean it was kind of hard.

Speaker 3 (24:05):
You know, it was really different for me. Julia's reaction,
she just stood there with this like piercing look, which
i'd sleep with when eye open if I was gerty,
because that was a look of like I'm going to
skin you alive and make a lamp out of you
or something like this. Well, Julia was just like looking

(24:26):
at her like she wasn't moved by it.

Speaker 2 (24:28):
I was expecting her to do something, but I think
after the throwing the water she thought, oh shit, that
was too much. I'm you know, I'm probably gonna get
my ass handed to me, and I'm just gonna after
this be calm. Let's see how she continues this season.

Speaker 3 (24:44):
Oh, let's bring in Jen Jen. Let's in the in
the house. Hi guys, Hey, Hi Jen Fessler. Oh my love,
Welcome to the party. Thank you, Jen Fessler. Yes, we
want to know that. Tell us about that cruise you
were on it? What happened?

Speaker 2 (25:03):
Oh wait a minute, okay, wait, I didn't realize you
were on the cruise.

Speaker 3 (25:08):
There. She was a cruise I did.

Speaker 4 (25:11):
I did two cruises with Gertie. So the first one
two nights a piece. So went on the first one
and then I got lucky enough to go on the
second one. Gertie and I and Adriana. We hung out
on the first one and then the second one. Gerdi
came back with Julia.

Speaker 2 (25:29):
Okay, and you were at the event.

Speaker 4 (25:32):
I was at. I was on the cruise.

Speaker 2 (25:34):
So oh so we weren't you at the event last
night too?

Speaker 3 (25:38):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (25:39):
Yes, I was at. I was also, so Gertie and
I became close. Okay, so the time we spent on
the cruise, we became very close. She invited me to
her celebration of life party.

Speaker 3 (25:49):
Okay, I was there.

Speaker 4 (25:51):
So you were there, and she united and Delora. She
wanted to La Loor's there too, but Dolores couldn't make it.

Speaker 3 (25:55):
Unfortunately, I was getting my no why I was getting
some type of classic.

Speaker 4 (26:00):
Attention gave me a great gift.

Speaker 2 (26:01):
I was just kidding sometimes. So let me ask you
a question. Now, if you blink, nobody would have saw
you on the Appreciate camera, did you no?

Speaker 3 (26:12):
No? I had I heard that she was on the
party too, because she was on the Yeah.

Speaker 2 (26:16):
What were you cut out? Did you have talking points?
Did you talk to the cast or you wasn't?

Speaker 4 (26:21):
It wasn't that kind of thing where I wasn't invited,
you know, to be for any kind of crossover reason
right reminded me, which was so sweet. I wanted to
be there for it, and I did talk to the cast,
but it wasn't anything. I wasn't in the middle of
the chaos at all, so I was really more just

(26:42):
hanging out, you know whatever, just with Gertie and but
there was no drama. There was there was drama. I
was next to drama, but thankfully I wasn't part of drama.

Speaker 3 (26:53):
Can you get a change?

Speaker 2 (26:54):
Can you tell us? I know, right, Can you tell
us about the drama? Is there anything we didn't get
to see?

Speaker 4 (27:00):
No, I don't think there's really anything that you missed. Listen,
Gerdy did what she felt like she had to do,
so I was there. I can give you, guys, like
a little more insight to the cruise as opposed to
the party, because I think the basics thought all of it.
So I'm on the cruise now, it's in between cruises.

(27:22):
I get this call from Gerty. I'm coming back. Julia
called me Mark Tina can't go. I'm thrilled because her
and her and I were whooping it up the first time,
so she's she got back and it was actually it's
called the celebrity assent. So as soon as she got back,
there was like the launch party or whatever it is

(27:45):
for it, and I got like immediately got a text
from her. I hadn't even seen her yet the second
time around, where are you? I think she maybe like
had a bad feeling about it. I don't know why,
but trying to find me. I was trying to find her,
but I could just tell something was off. And we
hung out that night and the whole next day, which

(28:06):
I was thrilled about. But she did not even hear
a thing. So she was there to be with Julia,
and as the day progressed, she was progressively upset.

Speaker 2 (28:18):
Where was Julia at?

Speaker 4 (28:21):
She was doing some I guess pr stuff. I don't know,
but so it was it was me, it was Jeff,
it was Gertie. And I mean she didn't even get
like a check in, so which you know, she told
me she was there. She got back from the first
cruise and felt like Julia really needed her. Left, the

(28:43):
boys left, Russell repacked, came back and didn't even hear
from her all day. And I guess that Julia had
a dinner with Captain Sandy, so a Captain's dinner and
Martina was supposed to be there. Obviously, Martina didn't make it,

(29:04):
so Gerty, I guess, said, what's going on for dinner?
Right right now? I'm not I don't remember how it
went down exactly.

Speaker 2 (29:12):
Well, you would think that Gerty would be invited to
this dinner today.

Speaker 3 (29:15):
It's a place that.

Speaker 4 (29:17):
I thank you, and I guess that Julia said there's
no room for you at the table. I am quoting,
I'm not you know.

Speaker 5 (29:26):
Yeah, this was a ways back and you were there,
so you I was there, said I was there and
I was there, and Gerty was so upset, not because
she was like I want to go to the cat
but more like did I sign up.

Speaker 4 (29:41):
For this fool?

Speaker 2 (29:41):
Well, it's like, why do you want me here?

Speaker 4 (29:43):
Correct?

Speaker 3 (29:44):
Right?

Speaker 4 (29:44):
And so and her other the other part of it
was like what do you mean? So she had I
guess she had met Captain Sandy like the day before,
and she's like, why wouldn't she want me there? We're
all like part of the Bravo family and you can't
pull up a chair. It was very strange, so surprised.

Speaker 3 (30:07):
I mean, I don't think that there was a reason
she shouldn't a valid reason for her not to be
there other than Julia didn't want her there.

Speaker 4 (30:14):
I mean, well, I don't nobody.

Speaker 3 (30:16):
Knows what happened from the time they got on the
boat together to her not being invited to the Captain centner.
There's a gap that we don't know about.

Speaker 4 (30:24):
No ma'am.

Speaker 3 (30:25):
But okay, but this is more information than we had before.

Speaker 2 (30:29):
All this changes my mind because watching the episode, you know,
it starts out with her two little beautiful boys and
such a sweet moment and all this, and then it's like,
then all of a sudden, Gerty's flashing these text messages
up at a you know, celebration of life party, and
you're like, okay, that was a tick move.

Speaker 4 (30:51):
I think that Gertie felt like, you know, she was
ready to let it go, but Juliet through the water.
I think she felt very alone in that moment first
of all, and then at the narcissist Green Goddess event,
I think she felt like Julia was poking her again,

(31:13):
and you know, like there was only so much that
she could take and really wanted to get the truth out.
So I mean, listen, guys, I love Gerdie, but she
doesn't pay my mortgage. I'm not going to lie for her,
you know.

Speaker 3 (31:27):
No, you're just telling facts.

Speaker 4 (31:28):
Yeah, I'm just telling you how it went down. Well.
Then at one point, so now dinner was over. It
was later Jeff and Gertie and I were like in
this bar area. Julia came down, but clearly things were
not good. They were tense, and then we ended up
going to Gertie's gorgeous. They had like a room, like
a loft and whatever. This beautiful. Did they share a room, yes,

(31:52):
but they had I guess it was.

Speaker 3 (31:53):
There was a loft, okay, but still they had to
be in the same room after in the same room.

Speaker 4 (32:00):
And then there was a hot tub that Gertie and
I went into and I mean we just laughed for like.

Speaker 3 (32:10):
For us.

Speaker 4 (32:11):
Like Julia came down for a minute, went back up.

Speaker 3 (32:14):
What did you say to Lars, I said, this is
going in a totally different.

Speaker 4 (32:19):
Yeah. Yeah, no, I'm sorry, I'm not that cool. But
we had a great time. I mean, we were just
it was just.

Speaker 3 (32:26):
So Julia was there. She didn't join you guys in the.

Speaker 1 (32:30):
Lot.

Speaker 4 (32:31):
It was not good at that point.

Speaker 3 (32:32):
It was not when you were in the hot tub,
did you sense any kind of tension or anything.

Speaker 4 (32:37):
I knew that there was tension. I didn't have to
sense it. Gertie was devastated. So the entire day I
think she was like.

Speaker 3 (32:44):
She was just shocked.

Speaker 4 (32:44):
I think she was shocked. She was certainly shocked about
the dinner, but just as shocked that she didn't hear
from Julia all day, that she had packed her stuff up,
turned around because Julia needed her, and Julia disappeared.

Speaker 2 (32:58):
How long was this cruise?

Speaker 4 (33:00):
Two nights?

Speaker 2 (33:01):
Okay, so short cruise. How did it end?

Speaker 4 (33:05):
I mean, listen, I knew how set she was with Julia,
but certainly, you know, I wasn't getting involved in that.
I'm here in New Jersey. I've got enough to get
involved in here, So I just knew she was upset.
I felt terrible for her. She was really disappointed with
how it went down, and she was pissed. Well, the
cauntain table thing I think put her over the did.

(33:26):
But oh I but it started because the entire day,
if I remember correctly, she didn't even get a message,
how's it going, are you okay? And she was supposed
to be there with Julia and Julia was gone.

Speaker 3 (33:40):
All right, Well that is that's a good piece of
information for us.

Speaker 2 (33:45):
It's a great piece of information. Now, my question is,
why would Julia make a big deal out of this
going into the season, as if Gertie did something wrong
to her to get in front of us.

Speaker 4 (33:57):
Your guess is as good as mine.

Speaker 3 (33:59):
I tell you. Gertie irks her, she doesn't like her
after that.

Speaker 4 (34:07):
I don't think that Gerdi intended to go into the
season and you know, bring this all to light. I'm
I'm close with Gerty.

Speaker 3 (34:16):
She brought it up first.

Speaker 4 (34:19):
I think Julia did, right, I think Julia did.

Speaker 2 (34:21):
I might be mistaken, but I think Julia did.

Speaker 3 (34:25):
They are definitely looking at this whole thing very differently. Clearly,
Julia did bring it up as a matter of fact,
and Julia's I remember Julia saying, oh, she brought She
made it all about her. She wanted to pictures, she
wants to that's Gertie. You know that when you invite
Gertie that she is going to be gerdy mm hmm. Listen.

Speaker 4 (34:49):
Maybe I don't know what Julia would. I don't know
what was going through Julia's head, but you know, when
I was with Gertie, we were literally sitting by the
pool down, you know, eating getting drinks. There was no
nobody was There was no paparazzi and weren't looking for any.

Speaker 3 (35:06):
I feel like Gertie was even confused starting the season
on why Julia had a problem with her, when in
turned she felt she should have had a problem with Julia.
So now let's see, you know, now the next thing.

Speaker 4 (35:19):
Yeah, I think that that's probably spot on.

Speaker 3 (35:22):
Yeah, so I'm glassy what the fans have to say.

Speaker 2 (35:25):
Let's say, but going back to the party that you
were at, how did it end?

Speaker 4 (35:30):
So you guys saw, oh the girls all of them
left right.

Speaker 3 (35:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (35:36):
And again, because I'm close to Gerty, I know that
she was shocked only because when Julia thrown threw water
in her face, she felt like no one was interested
in coming to her defense or this is just I
think you know how she felt about it.

Speaker 2 (35:52):
Well, it's accurate, yeah it is, so you know she Marisol.
I believe Marisol told her like that wasn't cool. You
should have done that. But I think at the moment
maybe sure, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (36:07):
Well I have to tell you Julia waited to film
to make a big deal. That's almost a year. So
the cruise was in December. Jen they start filming in September.
Julia waited all that time to bring it up. Usually
it's want to pick a fight with someone for the storyline. Yeah,
this is how we do things on here, not how

(36:27):
we do things, but this is this is housewife one
on one. So it's very enlightening. Jennifer Bestler, thank you
very much. Again.

Speaker 4 (36:37):
I love Gerdie, but I'm just telling you how it
went down.

Speaker 3 (36:40):
Yeah, no that you're just talking facts. Yeah, thank you, Yes, love.

Speaker 2 (36:44):
You guys, Thank youbody.

Speaker 4 (36:47):
I know I was thinking that camera, okay, we need
bye guys.

Speaker 3 (36:53):
Bye?

Speaker 2 (36:55):
Okay? Does that that kind of changes my mind about everything?

Speaker 3 (37:00):
We can change our minds with information. So that was
very good information, very enlightening. And I guess we just
can end it by saying it's now it's up to
the fans.

Speaker 2 (37:24):
So where did we leave it off? So all the
women are shot, They're upset at what Gertie did, especially
since this was exposed at an event for cancer. And
then all of a sudden, I don't know what the
circus slay was going on there, but then we see
these people doing all these weird I'm like, what and
what what is going on? Julia, Marisol Larsa, and Alexia

(37:45):
walk outside. What would you what do you think you
have done? Would you have like walked out? Like I
don't want a part of this? It kind of gave me.

Speaker 3 (37:53):
That's on how close I was with Gertie and them.
Everyone leaving shows you how close the or not with Gerty. Well.

Speaker 2 (38:01):
I think when you do something publicly to publicly shame somebody,
that's where it gets lost in the you know what
I mean, Like it just gets lost like people are
going to side with you. It's like all there. It's
like the Kenyon bread thing, like people wanted to leave
that party. It felt dirty. That was a way worse,

(38:22):
but it just felt dirty. And I think that's where
Gerty went wrong. I think she should have maybe done
it within the cast or just I don't know, with
one person.

Speaker 3 (38:34):
I don't know. I think that Gerty felt a need
to retaliate after she publicly shamed her. Were throwing the
water in her face and she listen, revenge is a
dish best served cold. She waited for her time, yeah,
to do it right, and it takes great restraint to

(38:54):
really wait your time so that you know, listen, Like
I said, let's see where this goes from here.

Speaker 2 (39:01):
Yeah, so Stephanie Joys and Women Outside says she wants
to remain neutral, and she doesn't.

Speaker 3 (39:07):
You know, she wants to be.

Speaker 2 (39:08):
Switzerland, which is weird because Stephanie has not been Switzerland
at all this entire season and being Switzerland on the show.
Do you think she has been Switzerland?

Speaker 3 (39:20):
No, it had no nothing to do with picking a
side in a fight. She was picking her own fights. Yeah,
so I agree with her. You know, I'm a big
fan of having my own opinion, forming my own waiting
for my own information, and then making a decision. No
one's saying this was the best thing to do or

(39:41):
this was the worst thing to do. Nobody's saying that here.
She's just saying I need to hear her side of
the story, like we just did. I need to hear
her side of the story.

Speaker 2 (39:50):
But she didn't want to hear Todd's side of the story.

Speaker 3 (39:53):
Well we know todd side of the story.

Speaker 2 (39:56):
Well, I doesn't say, but she doesn't even I don't know.
I just feel like a new person. She's not staying neutral.
I think she wants to get in the mix. And
she sees all the other girls are walking out. She's like, oh,
this is my opportunity to go over here and go
like cause some you know, problems, and it did. And
Alexi's like, if Stephanie wants to kiss Gertie's ass, she
should do that.

Speaker 3 (40:17):
Stephanie, I think that Alexia jumped on that because she
wanted to get her back for busting her balls and
she stepped.

Speaker 2 (40:23):
Out, Yeah, for sure, and Stephanie tells her to shut the.

Speaker 3 (40:26):
Up, and so that's what jet Stephanie see then I.

Speaker 2 (40:30):
Liked her, Yeah, And she's like, I'm just trying to
understand this new friend group.

Speaker 3 (40:34):
Okay, fair enough and smart by the way.

Speaker 2 (40:37):
But then she takes it to another level. She takes
it to another level. She adds it, maybe this is
normal for Alexia because she was married to a crazy guy.

Speaker 3 (40:47):
If Stephanie wasn't having opinions the whole time about everything,
you know, we would be calling her boring right now.
But she's she's had her own fights, and I there's
nothing wrong with why I jump on just because everybody
else is doing something. Why jump on it and do it?
When she has no idea about the dynamics of Gerdi

(41:08):
and Julia's friendship. Up until now, she has no idea
of really anybody yet she's still finding her footing, so
I give her credit for having for marching to the
beat of her own drum.

Speaker 2 (41:21):
Yeah. Well, Adriana tells Julia not to run and that
she should show her side of the story with her
own text messages, and I'm like, no.

Speaker 3 (41:31):
No, how many languages does Adriana speak a lot? A lot?
How do you know? You know? For sure?

Speaker 2 (41:37):
She well, she's talked about it, and then she's I know,
it's French, Spanish, English, like she.

Speaker 3 (41:43):
Had a whole list, very impressive, very very very impressive.
But she was speaking to Julia in her native tongue
I know. And uh yeah, she speaks messy too, though.

Speaker 2 (41:54):
Very messy. So everyone is so appalled.

Speaker 3 (41:56):
She's very well versed and messy. I think above.

Speaker 2 (41:59):
All, well, she hasn't been messy up until now, I mean,
what episode are we on? And she's find yeah.

Speaker 3 (42:05):
I mean I thought you meant in the past she's
been Oh.

Speaker 2 (42:07):
God, she's always been messy. But now she's like telling her,
she's telling Julia to show her own text message. She's
like no, and everyone's appalled. And then there's Adrian, like
this is fun. Let's continue this your turn, Julia, let's go. No, no,
it was a big, fat note for me. And then
she walks away and she calls Martina and says, in

(42:31):
a very soft, spooken voice, please stay awake.

Speaker 3 (42:35):
She really it was chilling and it was almost riveting
the vibe I got from Julia when this was going down.
I just want to let you guys know.

Speaker 2 (42:45):
Yeah, well, I don't know that there's any text message
to show because she showed both of them. She showed
the text change, so it's already been shown. So I
don't know what Adriana thinks she's gonna show.

Speaker 3 (42:56):
Well she I think she knows she's wrong. I think
Julia knows that she is wrong with the with what happened.
So listen. Like I said, I'm dying to know. On
that note, I'm going to leave it at this. I'm
very curious to see how the fans are going to
take this, because there's been a shift yea and things
that the way people look at things on Bravo. So

(43:18):
let's go, guys, all.

Speaker 2 (43:20):
Okay, Well, thanks for tuning in to another episode of
Two Teas in a Pod and we will see you
next week.
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