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Speaker 1 (00:01):
I'm Teddy Mellencamp and this is Emily Simpson and you're.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Listening to popping Off. First thing we need to talk about.
Did you see the TikTok?
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Wait? Which one?
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Oh, you're like, hold on?
Speaker 1 (00:13):
No?
Speaker 2 (00:13):
The one hold off? The one where Taylor is standing
up and she well, there's been two. The first one
is her just kind of like doing a dance, but
she looks a little sad, and she says coming back
into my twenty twenty two self. And then everyone assumed
that meant that she and Dakota broke up. But then
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also there was another TikTok that she posted, watching the
scene of her having the baby on the show, and
her saying, here's to a new chapter of my life.
I think it'll be the most challenging yet most rewarding,
and then she also says it's triggering to watch this season, however,
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I do appreciate seeing my baby being born.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
So you so your takeaway is that she's not with
Dakota anymore from those vague innu windows.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Yes, And then all the women are commenting, we got you, Taylor,
we love you, we care about you.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Yeah, I mean that doesn't make sense that that's what
happened that they broke up, which I actually I hope
that they did because I think he's a worm.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Oh he's worse than a worm with a mustache. Worse.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Oh he's Oh he's awful.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
He's a booger, eater, disgusting. He can take his one
box and get the hell out of there.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Yeah, get your PlayStation.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
To get out, get your PlayStation, your Rubik's cube and
be down. And then he did a TikTok that's like
trump and it's like, do you have a plan and
he was like uh, he like mouthed. I'm like stop,
now you need to stop tiktoking.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Enough.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Ugh. So we are recapping the secret lives of Mormon Wives.
Episode four starts off with the girls driving to Park
City for Macy's birthday trip. Yay, park City. Have you
been to Park City? I have been to Park City. Yeah. Yeah.
Whitney jokes that she and Taylor are going to have
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a boxing match when they see each other. Everyone's worried
there's going to be a lot of tension. The first
of the girls arrive at the Giant Pentouse. Many of
the girls have frustrations with Whitney because she doesn't take accountability. Then,
of course Whitney brought the matching sweatsuits which they have
in every color, which I love. We need our own,
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we do, we.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Need matching outfits when we do this podcast. I feel
like we should match. We should we at least need
to plan color schemes. But they found it to be
thoughtful that she did that. And then the girls go
in the hot tub for a split.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Second, like we just need to change it up and
not have you guys fighting in the closet for a minute.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
So they're like, can you guys pust a bathing suits
on and just get in the hot tub.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Just real quick. We want to show how all of
your extensions hold up after getting wet, So they get
in there. Then Jen, voicing her frustrations with Zach. She
says she's a sole breadwinner. She provides for her kids,
and she's paying for her husband to go to medical school.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Okay, here's here's my question though, before these moms, because
all these moms claim to be the breadwinners, before there
was mom talk, how were they living.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
I mean, if they weren't getting like college, like I mean,
I think Jen's twenty four years old, so twenty twenty.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
So you're saying that basically they went from college to
getting married to just putting this mom talk together and
started making money from doing social media stuff. I mean,
there was no other plan when they got married. That's
the part I don't understand, Like how you married these
men and like none of them make money. You're the
breadwinner by doing stuff on social media.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Or maybe the husbands quit their jobs in order to
make you know, videos, videos with them on the interwebs.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
I know, I'm going to go to Shane and just
suggests that maybe he quits practicing law so that we
could make ridiculous videos together.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
You know what, It's not a bad job, Like it
is kind of what I do for living, but Zach
thinks that it's important because he will be the provider.
And fifteen years.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
For saying fifteen years, She's like, I gotta make videos
for fifteen years before there's any income coming from this man,
like poor thing, Like at least I don't.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Have to dance in mine, And then males are usually
the sole provider in the LDS religion, so it's hard
for Zach to be so untraditional. Jen Oh shit Jin
forgot her garments on this girl trip, which is a
big deal for strict Mormons. Yeah, so how she's gonna
be think she forgot it?
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Do you think she forgot I think she forgot him
on purpose. She doesn't want to wear that well.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
I mean, garments represent your marriage after going through the temple.
It's a daily reminder of your dedication to your partner.
I'm sure Jin forgot her garments, just like I'm forgetting
to wear a bra right now, like they're probably uncomfortable.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
I just think maybe she did it on purpose because
she didn't want to deal with it on a girl's
trip with a camera crew.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
I think she did it maybe on purpose so to
rev zach up.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
But she's scared of him.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
I feel like she is scared of him. But they
kind of have this like she does shit with the
group while filming that we know is going to piss him.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Off, and she's okay doing it. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Yeah, But also if I had a husband that was
pissed off because I didn't wear an extra layer of
clothing underneath my SWEATSUITO. But then the truth box, we
love we love a game.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
I love a good game. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
This was the moment Tom became the mother of mom talk.
She's hoping they can all be honest with this and
resolve any tension that may exist. No one is enthusiastic
about it.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
I wonder why.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
I wonder why, because it's about to be some real
great questions. They change into their matching sweatsuits and begin
reading anonymous questions. Someone asked why Whitney doesn't like Taylor
and if she's just jealous of her clout. She says
she's jealous of the forgiveness that Taylor received after the scandal,
which she never got after her RSV video. This had
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me taken aback. I didn't expect this is where it
was going to go.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Yeah, you mean you felt like that came out of
left field, Like that wasn't what she was going to say.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Yeah, I mean, what how is that Taylor's fault? That
she was forgiven faster than dancing with your child and
the nick You.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Okay, but here's the thing. Of course, Taylor was forgiven
because people were so intrigued by it.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Like I don't.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
I don't feel like people necessarily had to forgive Taylor.
I think they were happy that Taylor gave them that information.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Yeah, it sucked it all up.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Right, everyone ran with it and it was everywhere. People
have a hard time getting past how negligent you look
when you're in a nick you dancing with your baby
in the background.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Like yeah, and I don't think that Taylors are that's
bar behavior common since like I don't know. But then
someone asked Taylor if she leave Dakota if she found
out he slept with Jenna after swearing that he didn't.
She says yes, with no hesitation. Do we think she
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actually would? No?
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Because I feel like that scene right there was foreshadowing
of something that's supposed to come out later. But we
all know they're still together, so.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
No, and we all know that Jenna's been posting on
the gramm h. So we found Jenna. She never responded us.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
I know, I don't know why we have no clout.
We got to start making videos or something.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Like, what the hell, Jenna, we were going to give
you your like two minutes of social media fame is
the wrong word.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Yeah, because because Teddy got fourteen hundred followers in fourteen days,
sixteen hundred sorry at least respect Sorry.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
About that, and uh, DEMI asked if she ever said
jin was too Mormon and Whitney and Macy started giggling
because they're obviously the ones who told Gin this. Demi
points out when she said things about Jen it was
when Whitney and Macy agreed with her. This causes a
big argument. Then Jin brings up the Demi called Taylor
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white trash, which was to hold to her by Whitney
as well, that's.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Way better than to Mormon, Like, are you gonna get
mad as someone calls you too Mormon? That's like being
like you, I mean, is that really an insult? I
mean white trash?
Speaker 2 (08:46):
I mean I call myself WT. Like there's certain things
like when I order a steak and I'm like, can
I have it well done? And everyone looks at me
like with disgust. I'm like, some things you can't change,
and I'll have the a one sauce too, right.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
I mean, I have a little white trash. I'm from Ohio,
I grew up in the country.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
I'm not I wouldn't be offended by it unless it
was like somebody I wasn't friends with calling me it.
But I think that's the problem. They weren't actually friends.
They just are social media people that wanted to get
more famous. But Demi said she said this because she
saw Taylor flirting with Brett Rudy Pebble's man at a
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party and going from husband to husband being touchy with everyone.
Taylor takes a swing at Demi in return, she claims
that Demi took off her dress in front of Dakota
to get miked. Demi didn't do this to seduce Dakota,
but Taylor's not convinced.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
She thinks it's trashy. I don't know what, do you
think that's the party when she walked out in her bra?
Or is this another time?
Speaker 2 (09:49):
I guess it happened another time, but then we see
it later on in the season two. I think this
is just like Demi likes her way, her tits look
in her bra, and she's fine to like it's the
same as a bathing I guess in her opinion.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Yeah, so she just likes to flaunt it. She likes
to show it off.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Yeah. Do I think there was probably a time where
Taylor was tipsy in front of Brett and probably flirting
with him.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Yeah, Well, you're talking about someone that's involved in the
swinging scandal, so it's not like it's a far reach
for me. To picture her flirting with other men.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
I also think, you know, if you're pouring cereal into
your vagina, you probably don't have much to be jealous
of when it comes to other women. Like, if you're
willing to take that step.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
You mean you think that she's got her man pretty well?
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Yeah, I think she's got it.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Yeah, Like he's not really looking for other areas.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
No, that's not Jen, it's not Zach. I didn't sing Zach, No,
Matt did. Nobody wants Zack. It's not Zach, it's Bett.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
It's the hotkey, it's the former.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Everyone wants him. Yeah, the hot.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Football player eating fruity pebbles, He's the fruit, you know. Okay,
here's my question. Where do you go from fruity pebbles?
I mean, she's only in her twenties, right, I mean,
what's the next That's.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
What I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
So, like, what's the next step from that? Like, if
you're going to keep things spicy in your sexual relationship,
where do you go after fruity pebbles.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Cocoa pebbles, cennamon to this crunch that sounds so painful? Well,
I'm sorry, the fruity pebbles, Like think about how quickly
they melt in your mouth, like I know they dissolve
very quickly. Like how are you going to get that
all out of there? Especially if you've had to get
a funnel, yeah, or milk into it, Like we've really
got to get down. Can you try this and let
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me know how it goes in?
Speaker 1 (11:40):
I feel like I need a tutorial video.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
How to get fruity pebbles in your own prives. Yeah,
all right, I'll create one.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Okay, that'll go viral. You'll get more followers, I promise,
Just do it.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Hey, Edwin, Yeah, breddy pebbles in a funnel real quick.
Just come in here, and maybe a razor blade so
I can handle some things prior.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Just don't ask questions, just go along with it.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Then Whitney asked who her least favorite in the group
is right now, and she says it's to me. Whitney
feels like she's been trying to say her truth, but
dem is lying and trying to drag her into everything.
The game finally ins, thank God, and Whitney's talking to
Macy upstairs. She's actually mad at Macy now for not
sticking up for her. Taylor and to me have a
conversation in the room they're sharing, Taylor decides she wants
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to sleep alone tonight, so Demi moves rooms. I feel
like at this point Whitney could punch somebody in the
face and then get mad at them for hurting her hand.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Yeah, every goal time.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
But we get through it somehow.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Okay, let me ask you a question. Do you think
it was the producers that generated the questions? Like, do
you think they had any idea what the questions were?
I think a producer just handed in the box and said, here,
play this game, and they didn't know what the questions were.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Like, I think they knew the questions. I think they
use words like cloud. I don't think producers would really Yeah,
but maybe who knows, it could have been producers who
produces this show. Let's find out.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
But then the next morning, the girls get ready to
make their tiktoks together as one would, they film in
their matching sweatsuits, and then Taylor decides to pull Whitney
away to have a conversation. I love it. They're like,
after work, we can have a real conversation, right.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
But get we gotta get this nailed. We first, first
and then at your get your lip syncing down, do
it again?
Speaker 2 (13:50):
That's not right again again. Whitney's obviously nervous, and she
asked Taylor not to punch her. Oh it's Jeff Jenkins productions. Oh,
I think we know who that person is. We know
a Jeff Jenkins. I think we do. Then, Whitney claims
she tried cultivating cultivating a relationship with Taylor after the
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swinging scandal, but it wasn't reciprocated Whitney's I mean, it's
like Taylor had some shit she had to deal with.
She had to get divorced, she had to move to
Coda in with his one box a red flat, but
there were a shit that had to happen his one box.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
I'm sorry, I can't stop laughing over that.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
And then she hasn't received the same hype as Taylor,
so she's comparing. Whitney told me that the purpose behind
making the RSV video was for sympathy, lights and clout.
Whitney admitted this to her after she and Deme did
ketamine together for therapy purposes.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Oh wait, is it like a true serum?
Speaker 2 (14:54):
I don't know. I had we do it together? Do
we do a ketamine pod. We should do a.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Kenmine pod and see what happens.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Ketamine is used to cure anxiety and depression, so maybe
it would help me, Like maybe I wouldn't be so
red and anxious today if I was on ketamine this moment.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
I feel like it could be a good thing.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Can we just I mean, I want to point out
something else that just so we can have a little
reference to this. These women got famous by doing dances
on TikTok. Yes, Like, what is the world we live
in right now? I don't know.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
It's like the huck to a girl. That girl's got
like hop bill hook too. That's all she said. And
she has like millions of followers, And I don't know
what else is she doing.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
I don't know she now she has her own podcast
Talk two. Something I saw her on like late night shows,
Red Green Tomato. She thought, that's how the New York
song went. It's just a lot for me, but then
to me. Decides to join the conver between Whitney and
Taylor so she can set the record straight since Whitney's
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obviously not telling the full truth. Whitney doesn't feel like
Taylor cares about her, but she doesn't want things to change,
She'd rather just leave them as they are.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Not a mature take on that.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
But Whitney saying she doesn't care enough to remedy things
yet to me reminds her she cares enough to talk
shit behind everyone's back. Good, point to me, to me, point,
Then to me tells Whitney that she's a shitty friend.
So Whitney tells her not to be her friend. Then
Whitney like really does run away from every situation. Then
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Whitney starts to cry and removes herself from the conversation.
Whitney's sobbing in the closet, A few girls go to
comfort her. I didn't pay attention to which ones. I
don't know if they were the saints or the sinners.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Don't you hate it when someone causes problems and gaslights
everyone and then runs away sobbing and then expects everyone
to come to them and apologize and console them. I
feel like that that's what she does every time.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Yeah, and then she's late to the dinner, and then
she has to be the one to cry to producers,
and then she has to be the one that brings
the cake. It's like Whitney you're exhausting. But Demi wasn't
finished talking to Whitney, so she decides to confront her again.
I'm like, I don't good timing. I don't think she
can handle it. Then Macy and Jenn are sticking up
for Whitney, telling dem she needs to leave. Demi calls
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it a minion fest and a Chihuahua fest with the
three of them, Jesse agrees with dem Whitney gets close
to people so she can use them for information, then
talks about everyone behind their backs. Whitney doesn't know what's
right or what's wrong anymore. Let me help you, Whitney.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Yeah, everybody else is right and everyone else is right.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
It's really very simple.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
It's very black and white at this point.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
You're welcome. Now come on the pod and we'll give
you more of our opinions. Hot takes. Now, Whitney's sobbing
to Macy again in the room that they share. Whitney
doesn't want to be anyone's friend because of what Jesse said.
Everyone arrives to Macy's birthday dinner. All the girls managed
to push the drama aside, then ensued that day. Besides Whitney,
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who's silently crying at the table in another unfortunate outfit.
Then she leaves to go set. She had to go potty,
but then she was really just crying to producers.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
But then she came out with the cake. She here,
this is a timing thing. She went in the bathroom
to cry, and as she was coming out of the bathroom,
she saw them getting the cake ready, so she grabbed
it out of someone's hand I'm sure and was like,
I'm going to go back and enter the scene carrying
the cake. That was just timing, and it worked out
for her. It worked out for her. But then they
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started to sing Happy Birthday. Then of course the.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Cameraman can't forget to show the piece of paper on
her shoe.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
I love cameraman, They're the best.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
And then Whitney says she just doesn't know if these
friendships are worth fighting for and if this is what
mom talk is turning into, she doesn't want to be
a part of it. I'm like, I thought you were
the leader of mom talk. Don't you set the tone?
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Yeah? Well, she's constantly saying she wants to be the
queen bee of mom talk, while saying she's not interested
in being a part of mom talk.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
She makes no sense. Make it make sense, Whitney, come
on and talk to us about it. Come on, come on,
come on in. But we will keep on watching, we'll
keep on researching, we'll keep on searching our TikTok scrounging
for information so that we have any hot deeds to share.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Right, And if any of you guys out there have information,
because I have people DM me and they send me stuff.
I love it. So if you have any information, please
feel free to dm us because we love to hear it.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Oh and I think her name was Andrea that sent
me the picture of all the different haircuts and styles
that Whitney's husband has had. I appreciate that it was.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Thank you for that.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Thank you all right, Thanks guys for tuning in.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
Thanks as Jack children,