April 16, 2025 • 41 mins
Tamra and Dolores are asking the REAL questions they wish were answered in the three part RHOBH reunion…
Was Andy being low-key messy calling out Dorit over the Teddi situation?
Is Sutton going to sink without Garcelle as her safety net next season?
Plus, can we see the receipts and proof where Sutton stood up for Garcelle?!
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
To Teas in a Pod with Teddy Mellencamp and Cameridge Edge.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Hey, guys, welcome back to another episode of Chew Cheese
in the Pod with myself and to Lorries. Hello. Oh
my gosh, so let's get into it. Beverly Hills is
officially done for the season. The third reunion came out
last night, and oh my gosh, I didn't think it
needed to be supersized.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
When you say supersized, was it longer than usual?
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Yes, it was like an hour, good god, eighteen minutes
or something like that.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
I'm like, seriously, Sarah, I didn't know that, and I'm like, jeezus,
this is going on forever forever. I'm not saying it
was boring because I hate to see all the shows go.
When they go, you get attached to watching something right
and you have to fill that spot. But I was like,
(01:08):
this is dragging out.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
They were letting me in on that I didn't know.
Starts out where Bose calls out Setting for labeling her
as an angry black woman on the after show set
and claim she only said bows was angry because she
was yelling. Bo shut that down real quick. She says,
don't say I was yelling because I don't yell, set
(01:31):
and said, bos came in strong and both responded, I
am strong, Bows.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
I'm gonna make a bet with you if you don't yell.
Now that you're a housewife, there's going to be a
time where you're gonna yell. Just tell you. I know,
but tell me what about your wife that doesn't yell?
I bet you five bucks, Bows. I mean, we all
yell one time or another. It's in you, it's in you,
(02:02):
it's in me because we know that. Well, no, Camra,
we know that you can do it. But Bose, as
a rule, she's a professional woman. She handles things differently.
You know, she comes from a world where there's hr
and there's all these these you know, good point, there's
(02:25):
all these different things. But guess what that doesn't that's
not in this.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
World, so not housewife world. And guess what, it's not
just a housewife thing yelling. It's a human thing.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
It's a human thing.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Yes, uh huh.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
And and this is you know that the grounds for
some yelling. So it's coming. Yeah, so it's coming, Bose,
I promise you you would yell at some point.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Question somebody on that couch said that Sutton buys people.
I can't remember who it was. It was Dory Dory, Okay,
so Stry says it set and buys people. He's like,
uh uh ah, she's frugal. I think she's cheap. I
would have to say. Kathy gave us some comedy, so.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
She did say that to her, and I have to
say it was funny. I don't know that she's cheap.
And then here comes gar Selled to the rescue. As always,
She's not cheap. I know. I don't think she buys people.
I have a lot to say about this, so I
don't know if you're on the same page with me
as this.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
There's a lot to talk about and there's a lot
of factors that went into it. So then let's move
on to Jurie denied in playing that Sudden has a
drinking problem, which is a total lie. She absolutely has
said Sutton has a drinking problem.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
She's the one who said was it her or was
it Kyle who said it? Well, no, she went over
when she was by Kyle's house, I think one morning
and she walked in and she was like, well, she
drinks poka in the morning or what I think?
Speaker 2 (03:58):
I think everybody has made a comment about it. I mean,
when you have a mixer that you carry in your purse, Yeah,
that to me is a little bit of a red flag.
But that's just me.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
So I don't drink, right, So I don't see the
joy in it. I don't. I don't comment on people
who do drink a lot. I happen to be nervous
around people who drink. As I've said before, it makes
me nervous. It's not my thing. But hey, all the
power to you if you could get the edge off
(04:31):
by drink, I guess. I mean, but any too much
of anything is no good, right, But it's not for
us to say Tamra no, I well, not me and you.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
I mean, I mean I might have said it, okay,
but she denies it. But but Andy also noted that
Jurid had agreed with a comment on Instagram calling Sudden
a drunk commenting facts. Jurid instantly turn that bitch around
just like this and directed the blame on her like
(05:03):
she didn't even address it. She didn't be like, yeah
I did say that. Yeah, I did call her like whatever.
She turned it around, and it was.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Just like, well you say it, you say it was
because of COVID and dah da.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Dah and then she also insisted Dard also insisted if
she wanted to paint Sutton as an alcoholic, she would
have done a hell of a lot more than what
she's done.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
So she basically she said it in so many words.
She didn't come out and call her an alcoholic, but
she has hooked the bear about it. And you know,
Sutton's not stupid. But you know, I don't like the
lack of accountability that Dori is taking here.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
She didn't take any accountability. No, non zip zelch. We
have a tweet, we have many comments like she in
this just this season. It's like is there alcohol and not?
I mean it's Sutton. Of course there's alcohol in it.
So she insinuates a lot, but she doesn't actually come
out and say the words ericacues Sudden of kicking women
(06:06):
when they are down. Now, Sudden asked if Kyle and
Dured had done the same to Erica. Erica said, she
cussed them out privately.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Okay, so they did, they did, so, so Erica, you're
just saying, you're kind of like just saying that Sutton
did it. And Sutton's like, wait a second, I'm not
the only one who did it.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Well, kyle In says they never kicked Erica when she
was down. Ever, I think that there was an overall
feeling within the group that Erica was doing something wrong.
And I think that Sutton accused Erica of a lot
of stuff throughout the years about her legal issues and
that she did. I mean, she went, she went really
deep on those that situation. So, I mean, I think
(06:52):
there is er well you could tell there.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
Is some certain can't stomach her.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
I think there's some truth to it. I honestly do.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
When Erica said it's it's warranted. And you know, Erica
has moved on from it. You know, I don't think
that they attacked something when things were happening, because when
she was fighting with them, they were down, Like there's
a lot of things they could have come back and
said at those times. But they don't fight like New Jersey.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
No, they don't.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
So there's these this under lying resentment amongst all of them,
I think, and towards Sutton. But you know, I I'll
say it again, I'll die on this hill. No one
had Erika's back when she was going through that.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
I think some of the girls did. I don't think
that Kyle did, but I think there was a lot
of conversations.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
I don't think. I wouldn't say they kicked her, but
I wouldn't say they said. We believe that you didn't know,
because you're our friend and you're saying you didn't do it.
So until you're somebody proves differently, we we believe you.
Nobody said that.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
No one said that at all ever.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
And you know, when she was sitting there and the
tears were strolling down her face, nobody said to Sutton,
shut the up and get off her back. She's going
through enough like they just didn't. So, yeah, that's all
I have to say about that.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Yeah. Well, a fan claims set and yells and throws
tantrums when people confront her about her hypocrisy and bad behavior.
Garcela says, sometimes World of Doubles Dan standards that's also
known as Housewives. Garcel said, sometimes it seems that way
depends on who's pushing her buttons. Garcela is done at
this point for sticking up for sudden, I feel.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Well, it's about time.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
It's kind of like she's pissed off and you can
see it all over her face, no know how.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Like she was fed up to hear, like she just
had enough. Yeah, she had enough enough. Wait, I want
to ask you. So she came into the reunion saying,
I hope we take a cast photo. What happened from
there to the end that made her like just enough?
(09:15):
Like it was just enough?
Speaker 1 (09:29):
You know.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
I think it started with Bo's kind of reprimanding her.
I think that really pushed her over the edge about
the break in of the house right right, and Garcel
doubled down on that, and Bose is like, no, like
you should not be doing that. Da da da, And
then I think it continued with Sutton. Sutton didn't have
(09:50):
her back, like she had no zero.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
One, not one thing did Sutton say in her favor,
and right until the end when and they said what
did you take? What was your favorite part of the season,
what did you what was surprised you? What did you take?
She said, I loved seeing Sutton and her mother whatever
it was that she said, But it had to do
(10:13):
with again being a friend to Sutton. There's a lot
of things she could have she could have said, I'm
surprised that maybe this girl sitting next to me really,
isn't that good of a friend to me?
Speaker 2 (10:24):
She could have said that, she could have said that,
she kept her mouth shut. She was clearly irritated from
the get go.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
He was.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
I don't think listen, I don't think it was her
intention to go out there and quit. I think because
she said from the very beginning, let's all finally take
a cast photo. In the very end, she's like, peace out,
I'm done. So I think that it's been something she's
been thinking about. I think every housewife that's been on
for quite a while is like, is this not that long?
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Is this it? Maybe this is it for me? Like
what was she like four or five years?
Speaker 3 (10:57):
And five years? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (10:58):
And she has a lot else going on. It's the
housewives that have like, does nothing else going.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
On that she doesn't want to get this. Yeah, my friend,
nobody really likes me. And then there's the I feel
like there's a little bit of an ego thing. You know,
here comes bows, yeah, big boss bows, Yeah, kind of
like reprimands her about how what she thinks she said.
But and I feel like Garcel saying that's how I
(11:26):
felt about it. But I think her ego was hurt
a little bit once again once again, just sat there,
she does.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
That's what's all she's been doing. But Garcel said she
was pissed because she doesn't get any grace in this
group and her is not accepted. No, no one smiled Bill.
Let me ask you or people supposed to be smiling
each other at the reunion. Like to me, going to
the union reunion is usually like I'm dreading it. I
don't want to do this, you know. I think it
was more of but I'm always in the hot seat.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
So I think that Garcel felt that she was on
an island. There are people that say I'm on an island. Meanwhile,
they have the backing of everybody. People stand behind them
and hold their hand through good and bad. Not this.
I do feel like Garcel felt very singled out. And
(12:23):
you know when when you put all your eggs in
that one basket of a friend and then you really
it's not reciprocal. Where do you go from there?
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Yeah, I think you're right. I think that she felt
like she was on island. I've I've had seasons where
I felt like I was on an island. You were,
and and yes, and and it's one of those situations
where you go into every filming just being so anxious
and you know, am I gonna get yelled at today?
What's going to happen? And after a while, when you're
on that island, it's like, why am I on the show?
And I really do feel like so I think that's
(12:56):
what that was. Yeah, I think we're real good for
with Sutton. And then sudden you know she's flip flopping.
She's not being there for her. She setting so badly
wants to be in the whole like group of girls,
you know, being besties with them, where it's always been
Garcela and Sutton. They've been that, they've been like the
Fox Force five, they're the two that always stick together.
(13:19):
So now she doesn't have Sutton sticking up Or was.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
It was it just garcels sticking for Satin because Sutton's
always getting in trouble?
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Yeah, or was it I don't know, No, it was
it was the two of them always like, you know.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
But it's Sutton, give me a time where Sutton, please,
like give me a time where Suton showed her her
allegiance to Garcel.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Well, not not in this reunion. I'm missing it, and
not in this reunion there wasn't. But I do feel
like in the past years they do. They stick together
and they back each other up. So that's why I
think it was more of a shock to Garcella. It's like,
where's my friend? Where's my friend? When you don't have
a lot of friends in a group and your one
friend is not being there for you, You're like, why
(14:05):
am I here? What am I doing?
Speaker 3 (14:07):
You know? Sett and branched out. She brought on Jennifer Tilly. Yeah,
and now it just wasn't her and Garceal. So now
her and Jennifer are getting lunchtime and talk time and
sitting on the couch together, you know, at the at
the cash trip, and you know, here's garcel going off
(14:30):
in her room to herself.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Well, and also, I feel like Setton was so desperately
wanting Kyle as her bestie this year, and I don't
know where that changed, because there's always been a little
bit of bickering friendship, but a lot of bickering between
the two of them. Well because same ile, I know why.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
I know why, because Kyle gave her a little attention
this season.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Well, I screw some crumbs, That's what I saw. I
think that Kyle's a staple to the show. Everybody wants
to be her friend. In this group, Sutton has stuck
to gurselves for so many years and now for some
reason she's pulling away and she's like, I need Kyle
to be my bestie. And it was a little desperado.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
Yeah thanks, And yeah, well, I mean, I mean it's
nice to make friends with other people and not to
be just friends with it. I mean, that's what I think.
But you can never forget who is that one solid
person for you.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Yeah, And I do believe like these shows are about
conflict and resolution and if you are a person We've
talked about this before, if you don't want to make
up with somebody, you don't want to be friends with somebody,
or try your best to be friend somebody and if
they're not having it, then there's nothing you can do.
But that's what the shows are about too. When you
try to isolate somebody, you're just making yourself look bad
(15:51):
and you're not showing yourself as you know, a a
in a positive way. When it comes to the network,
conflict resolution, complect result Like, if you're can't do that,
then you shouldn't be on the show.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Honestly, you have to drop things like like Erica Jane said,
She's like, listen, yeah, yeah, I have I have issues
with you, but I decided to move on from them.
And yeah we did find a better place this season.
And something's like, but you know, why are you bringing
it up when you said you moved on from it?
She said, I did move on for it, but doesn't
(16:25):
mean I can't bring it up. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Eric is very good at moving on. She can get up,
yet she'll move on.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
She really, you know, she really got past how she
was kind of like when things went went down for her,
she kind of got pasted. She never held anybody accountable
for not really.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
She never plays victim, no, never, And that's what I
love about her. She's one top girl. She you know,
she takes care of her now and it's like you don't,
I don't give a shit.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
She she's resilient. Yeah, I am resilient. I saw her.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
I saw her the other day and I was venting
about some things and she's like, don't get in there
and do it, like you know what I mean. Like
she's like, you don't worry about it like her, and like,
don't worry about it.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
Can get you there and do it. At Bravo Khan,
she had this tight lycra dress on. It was like plastic.
Oh yes, yes, I'm I'm Here's me, short fat Italian
girl from New Jersey, putting my eye lashes on, you know,
fixing my makeup in the bathroom. And then I look
(17:40):
up and there's the Barbie Doll Erica Jane standing behind me.
And I'm like, Eric, look at look at yourself in
the mare.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Such a presence, right, It's insane.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
It is insane. I don't just everything is perfectly in.
It's just where it belongs. I don't know what else
to say.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
The legs, you know, every arms, the long legs, yes,
the tors so, everything, the attitude, it's all top notch.
So Erica hasn't finalized her divorce from Tom, but her
lawyers wants her to move forward. Andy brought up Tom's
conviction and his request to be moved to a hospital.
Erica says she's only considered visiting him when he passes,
(18:27):
explaining that he's no longer mentally present.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
That if I came there, you don't even know who cares.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Yeah, that that made me sad. You know, I'm sure
that she wants to see him, but he's also put
her through so much. She doesn't twenty past years with him.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
So even if you want to see somebody, you're going
to go see them, whether they're coherent or not.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
I don't know. I just feel like you know, you
don't gey. So she's like, no, no.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
She doesn't want to go see him. That was okay,
save face like them saying are you going to see him?
To support she doesn't want to see him? Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Well, she had a very good response to Andy when
he asked, do you think Tom is guilty now? Eric responded,
it doesn't really.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
Not for me to know yet, it's not my decision.
The law the law. It was a great answer, that's
the truth. But she she gave both answers very enough
to get her off the hook of going any further
with him pushing her to answer, well, there's not much
more an answer without giving an answer.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
But there's nothing left to do.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
Do you want to go see him? He's not mentally there.
Why would I go see him? Okay, that's enough. She
was put in such a position from him almost homeless,
I want to say, like she didn't know where her
next Neil was coming.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
From She couldn't even imagine she done the whole.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
You know what though, Tamra being a single mom going
through divorce. You you've been there before.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
Joe being in a lawsuit in my past.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
Oh the lawsuit.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Yeah, those are so mentally draining and exhausting. He'll scary,
it could kill you.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
You physically sick. Like That's what I'm saying. It's like
unhealthy stress. It's like you can get sick from it.
It can years later.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Manifest Yeah, so that she was good.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
I don't blame a lot, and I get it.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
Hopefully on the other side.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
The closure is with herself, that's it.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Yeah, So it was very sweet for Andy acknowledged Teddy's
you know, being diagnosed with cancer is very sweet. You
have to you have to remember at that time of
the reunion, Teddy was still in the hospital. So, yes,
So I had seen Kyle at the hospital and she
(20:48):
had told me for the reunion, and I knew that
had to be the hardest thing in the world for
her to do because of this, because you know, they're
best friends and she was worried sick, and it is
hard for sure, and I think.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
That is a very unsure time yes, yes.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
And I do think Andy's being a little bit messy. Asked,
you know, talking about that, because I think there was
a motivation behind it, because he knew I'm sure from somebody.
The Duried hadn't reached out yet, and her response had
not reached out to Teddy, and her response was she'd
prefer to wait until Teddy was out of the thick
of it.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
Yeah, that's what everyone does when they're worried about someone.
They wait till they get better to see if they're okay.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Shut the up.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
Yeah I didn't. I didn't.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
I don't operate like that. I don't operate.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
Actually, I was being sarcastic. I know. That's actually what
I said to the TV when she said that. And
again not taking accountability. Maybe that's something you should do,
like you know what I I probably should have been.
I'm going to do it now. Not Oh, I'm just
(22:01):
waiting for a better time.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
I mean, just to send a text message or to
reach out to Kyle like she from what I understand,
she didn't even reach out to Kyle. And here she
is bitching because Kyle reached out.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
To p K.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
You know, she also reached out, reached out to durate
during the divorce. They weren't even speaking and considering knowing
what Kyle's going through with this, Like you can't even
reach out and say, hey, you know, my heart is broken,
you know, give her my love whatever. Because a lot
of people did, a lot of people did, like people
that necessarily wrangers did, yes, strangers the whole world, but
(22:37):
even people in the housewife world that wasn't you know,
maybe close with Teddy on the cast. I mean, I
think almost the entire cast had reached out.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
You know.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
If Erica facetimed her set an editor to her prayer,
Chain Bose, who I don't even think has ever met her,
offered to send her food, like that's just what you do.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Yeah. Well they've since treat reached out and they're good now.
Of course, this is a time not to worry or
to hold a grudge. You know, Teddy has to worry
about getting better, and of course camera we all have
to focus on the positive things all we can for this. Yes,
but it says a lot to me.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
It says a lot to me.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
I'm going to say, yeah, I am that person who
reaches out, who worries, who tries to do my best
if I, uh, yeah, so.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
I mean, my god, Vicky Gumblson reached out to Teddy
and even said to a present, and she's been through
a book a colorable things about her for years, and
she said, listen, this ain't right.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
This is.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Yes, yes, And I know Vicky personally, and I know
she's lost a few people to cancer, so I know
that it's very something that's close to her heart. But
you know that that's somebody. This is somebody that she
Teddy worked with, you know, Dori. Really she went to
Durrey's house when she got robbed, and she anymore. So
I can go on and on, because this is very
(24:09):
frustrating for me, but let's just move on.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
So I don't we're going to move on from that.
But you know what, I don't think we have to
say a lot about it. I think it speaks a
lot for itself.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
Yes, yeah, something I don't have to Yeah, So then
we move on. Andy asked Kyle if Mariso had filed
for divorce. Kyle said no. She got emotional, saying she
regrets how their separation deteriorated. She didn't know he was
dating anyone until she saw the airport photos, though she assumed.
Kyle admitted she used to check his messages whether they're separated.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
So if she checked his messages, she would have known
exactly who that girl was. The girl just didn't show
up without saying, hey, are you here? She didn't like
a shot in the dark, So if Kyle was getting
his messages, Kyle knew exactly what was going on.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
But he did say there was a point in the
separation where she just stopped looking and I.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
Do, oh yeah, But then when that picture comes out,
she didn't go back and look. I know how she
was finding.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
Probably, but how is she doing it?
Speaker 3 (25:11):
Does she have a computer? I computer pad? His his
Apple ID was hooked up to something. So while his
texts are going to the computers in the house, do.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
You have does Polly have your phone?
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Like?
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Can he get into it? He can have it, yeah,
but I mean does it? Does he check it? Does
he go through it? Do you go through his?
Speaker 3 (25:33):
Never? Never? No, No, I don't. But you know there's
always that one day where you go, I got a
little feeling a little a little gut feeling. Yeah, I
haven't had that with Paul. My my phone is left.
I hand pulled my phone and go could you please,
you know, put it over there or whatever, doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
So he has my password. He gave me his pastord,
but I don't remember it, like it's not anything. I
should have wrote it down just in case you never.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
Know, Well you can always.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
Yeah, No, he just gives you. If I want to
look at his money, you'd give it to me. But
I'm just and I would give him mind, but I don't.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
I don't know. But if we're not through a breakup. So,
but so Kyle had during this time. I'm sorry, but
Kyle was getting all his messages.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
Well, Kyle is much like Teddy because they're investigators. So
she said she didn't know he's dating anybody until he
saw the airport picture. Kyle Mitch. She used to check
his messages while they were separated. Now she stopped looking,
and I'm sure he now after seeing this, he's like,
hell no, I don't know how you're seeing him. But
I'm taking this well.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
So all he has to do is changes apple I
D and I'm sure and get it anymore.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
I'm sure it's done now.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
But by the time he figured out that she was
getting all these things, because at one point he goes,
how does she know everything.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
She's like, I know every crumb. This job right here
is just a side hustle. I'm actually a detective.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
Every woman is every woman can do that. Sis, you
had his apple ID for many years and you just
never let on. You never gave up your source. But
then you told him too much about what you knew
and he figured it out, or maybe some other woman
he was sitting across from when he picked up his
phone and goes, how does she know everything? And the
(27:37):
twenty year old goes, dumb, dumb, we have every code.
We could break a code in three minutes.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
I wonder though, if she knew everything, but she was
telling because if she told him the things that she knew,
then he'd be like, where you're getting that information? So
she was probably very smart and kept it to herself.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
Well, she shouldn't have told him anything she knew. The
time I tell you everything I know will be the
last time you see.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Me, Jeff. So for the first time, first time ever,
I feel like Kyle is acknowledging her potential feelings for
Morgan Wade.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
There, you know, she said, she's the first time.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Well, I mean she's been very quesite about that last
year they got matching tattoos and things. She said, she's
not coming out, but she has questions for her daughters
and support regardless of how she identifies. Kyle said that
her kids were very supportive. So Kathy was over there
laughing her as Esterica laughing her ass off.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
Did Kathy say I'm gonna be a lesbian just so
you don't feel alone?
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Well, well, I was waiting for that next, but she
did say, like I told my girls, And Andy said, wait,
you told your girls you're a lesbian, and she's like huh.
But you know what, at this point, I just feel like,
leave this alone. Whatever her feelings are for Morgan or
not for Morgan, at this point like it, just leave
her alone, leave her alone.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
Camera. I know you guys are closed and your friends,
and I happen to think it comes I'm Kyle's I
am a fan. I saw her stick up for that
dog the other day. I ask I would have fought
that bitch. If I was with Kyle, Kyle could have
ran behind me. We would have been duking, and I
would have went a couple of rounds with that woman.
I'm going to just tell you right now, for.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
I was of you that haven't seen it. There is
a video going around on social media where Kyle, Teddy,
I think Jen, and a few other people were walking.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
With this lady was stagging her little dogs across the street.
And you know, I looked at some of the comments
and they were like, Kyle, stay out of it.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
No, no, Kyle said, Kyle is an animal lover. And
Kyle said something to the when we didn't hear the audio,
at least I didn't, and basically like, don't do that
to your dogs. This woman ripped her scarf off and
she was chasing Kyle around.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
It was so funny because Kyle was like trying to
hide and like she was running behind. Let me tell you,
Kyle got behind.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Teddy and it was funny because Teddy's like, she's afraid
of nothing. This I'm telling you. I know this for
a fact. Teddy is afraid of nothing. And she just
stood there like I'm not running from you.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
Yeah no, So it would have been I promise you
would have been an altercation if it was in New Jersey.
But Kyle's so cute, adorable. Kyle, thank you very much
for that alone, for that act, of that courageous act.
I am not going to talk about you and wait
at all, and if you don't want to talk about it,
I'm good with that.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
So after filming wrapped, Andy said they were taking a
cast photo. Garcelle declined when asked why, she said, I
don't want to be in the cast photo. In her
dressing room, garcel said she's grateful for the opportunity, but
done with the show. There assholes, she said before leaving.
I don't think she needed to say that. I know
she was mad. I probably would have done the same
(31:07):
thing because I say ship that I don't.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
Really mean worse.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
Yeah, the group went ahead with the photo. Sutton tried
to find garcel at afterward after the photo and she's like, wait,
what can I Can I just go to supper?
Speaker 3 (31:24):
Supper? Can I just say one thing? Yeah? When Sutton
went to leave, garcel was the first one to get
up after her many a time, okay on the boat.
When when Sutton went outside after the whatever you want
to call it, the trial that they had on her
(31:46):
or whatever you want to call it, she yeah, she
went with Sutton. Jennifer Tilly went was last reunion. When
Sutton went to pass out, garcel left with her her self,
caught some heat on that she did. She caught heat
for leaving with her friends. So now on, Sutton, I'm
(32:07):
only speaking this out loud, not because I don't like you,
because I do like you. I've been I've been to
your apartment in the city and and you were kind.
We've been in Bravo Khan together, we've met several times.
But I want you to just see what I'm saying here, Sutton,
because I know you're a sensible woman. I just want
to point out that when when Garcela walked away, you
(32:30):
didn't follow her. You stood there and you talk to
the girls. They weren't being that nice about her leaving.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
Well, I wish somebody would have followed her.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
Ah, Sutton, you go after the picture, Sutton. What I
would have done would have said, guys, give me a
couple of minutes, let me go speak to her before
we take this picture. You didn't do that. And then
when you went to the room and saw that she
had left, you said, oh, I thought we were going
to supper again about you, Satin, And it wasn't about
(33:03):
oh my god, I'm sick. Should I have come sooner?
Should I have not let her go? No, you're worried
about who you're gonna sit and eat with.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Well, I mean, let's play devil's advocate a little bit.
Like Garcel said something nice about Sutton, and Sutton chose
to suck up to Erica, the same person who called
Garcel uninteresting. She probably felt totally on her own after that.
And I know a lot of people, like on my
social media, I asked questions like, what did you think
a lot of people were upset that Garcel left and
(33:31):
feels like she candish it, but she can't take it.
But you have to also understand somebody's like mentally where
they're at at that moment, if they're very hurt and
very sad. And I don't think she's mad. I think
she was sad and upset, and she felt like she
was pushed out on an island by herself, and so
that's why she was reacting like that. I probably would
(33:51):
have done the same thing. So you can't really judge
until you're in that position.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
But and then Dorri yells at her that was so unprofessional.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
Oh please please, Dorrit. Dorrit was two hours late to
the reunion last year because she was having that Kate
put over her head or whatever. It was like that outfit.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
So you would never be allowed to be two hours
lately in trillion years.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
But that's unprofessional. She's she did the whole reunion. She
that's professional. She didn't want to take a picture. That's
just being pissed off. I think I don't think.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
That's being a phony because the cast picture shows that
you're all moving on from whatever it was that you
spoke about. That we're in a picture together. And she
was like, I'm not I'm getting up and I'm leaving.
But at the same time, and I'm going to say,
Dorrie has the right to not like her for what
(34:51):
she said about her home invasion. It's kind of like
you can't come back from that. So I'm not going
to be mad. I'm not mad at Dorrit for saying
that to her. I'm not. I can't be. But but
I think that everybody runs after everybody when they walk
off or run off. I think the nail that brought
(35:12):
the nail in the coffin was getting getting her kind
of her ass handed to her a little bit by bows.
And I think that there's like kind of a pecking order,
like I was here before you.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
I think so out I think so know how to.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
Really say it. It's just that's what I mean.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
Yeah, that would bug me too. I think that I'm
more mad at Sutton for not sticking by her side.
I think Sudden should have stuck up for Garcel because
Garcela has stuck up for so many years. You know, listen,
I don't do you think. Let me ask you a
question here. So there's two ways of looking at this.
Garcel said at the very beginning of this show this year,
(35:54):
everyone could take a cast photo. Was it a pre
planning her was she please, are you planning her walkout?
Or was it like she did not? Because I don't
think so. I think that I don't think so got
irritated as time went on for those housagers sitting there
and she's like out.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
I'm not going to say she didn't have one foot
out the door and one on a banana peel. I'm
not going to say that she wasn't on her last leg.
There was still redemption there while she sat there. The
fact that she stayed through the whole thing and never
got up and walked off and left, the fact that
(36:31):
she didn't do it until the end tells me that
she sat there waiting for something different to happen. Yeah,
she was giving it a chance.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
She was, and she was getting more irritated as time
went on, that's for sure.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
And I think if someone, anybody there would have given
her this much, maybe a smile maybe. How about after
she said no one smiled at me and no one
gave a that she said it really they were like, well, yeah,
we're not smiling at anybody, but they kind of were.
(37:06):
There was a you know they do like you sit
next to someone, you talk to the person you're next
to or what you know it.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
There was some information from the cast that said that
Garcel never got close in a body. She checked in,
she clopped in, she clocked out afterwards something.
Speaker 3 (37:25):
Yes, what you get, Gara? I mean friends?
Speaker 2 (37:27):
Yeah, Like sometimes we will film like we filmed yesterday,
and then afterwards you hang out for a little while
and you talk and you know, but if you're just
go do your scene, you get out and you're gone.
You know, you're putting that message out there that maybe
potentially that's.
Speaker 3 (37:41):
What it is. Friends, but you didn't put your time in. Yeah, relationships,
aren't you know, if you're going to be on the show,
you really kind of form relationships with people outside of it.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
Yeah, well, the Pink pock Box said, I think Sutton
was a catalyst for Garcel leaving set has no loyalty.
Then Trish the Dish nine one two says, I wish
Garsla would have said everything on stage that she said
back in her dressing room to her team, And I
agree with that. I wish she would have spoke her
mind because it really was like, Okay, I'm out, I
(38:15):
don't want to do this anymore, you know, f all
of you. But why why wouldn't you tell them? Why
tell me?
Speaker 3 (38:24):
Why? You know? Like because again, when you're so hurt,
like when I'm hurt, or when I'm mad, or when
I'm upset, it takes me a minute to articulate everything
that I feel. I don't think that about her. She's
very well spoken, and you know she's got a lot
more going on as far as jobs and producing and
(38:46):
things like that. But you know, I mean, like you
just said, echoing what you just said and going back
to what you just said, there is still a degree
of what can you you know, humanly like when you
or hurt, you just can't even sometimes you can't.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
Just yeah, no, I get it. That's a that's a
very good point, A very good point. I mean, at
least she said how she felt backstage with her glam
team and all that. So we did get kind of
a button on that. I'm curious, has Garcel talked to
Sutton sense the reunion's been over? And what is Sutton thinking?
Because she is, like I heard, no, she's it's sudden
(39:27):
is going to drown without Garcel by her side.
Speaker 3 (39:30):
Next year we'll see, well.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
Who's giving her best buddy.
Speaker 3 (39:37):
He's going to stick get Kyle some more practical crystals.
I mean, she's holding a crystal that's the size of my.
Speaker 2 (39:49):
How I mean, how many times did she drop that?
Speaker 3 (39:51):
Like enough? But like honestly, okay, I know that was
I'm like, what is that? What does she in this
size too? They come in this size?
Speaker 2 (40:03):
I know she had this like big old amethyst or hands.
Speaker 3 (40:06):
She's just this little thing. So those are my thoughts.
Those are my thoughts.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
So Beverly Hills is done. Miami is coming out next month.
They haven't very very excited about that.
Speaker 3 (40:22):
I love Maristol and Mike Gurdi and Lexia.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
Oh I love them all. I really do you know.
It's always sad to say goodbye to another season of
any show.
Speaker 3 (40:34):
Well not only told you, because then you have to
fill that that gap.
Speaker 2 (40:38):
Yeah yeah, So that all that means is we're going
to be having some new shows come out.
Speaker 3 (40:43):
I enjoyed this very much.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
This is very fun.
Speaker 3 (40:46):
This is very fun, and they think we agree on
a lot of things.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
That we're going to get ourselves into big trouble one day.
Speaker 3 (40:55):
I'm waiting love.
Speaker 2 (40:57):
Thank you guys for tuning in to another.
Speaker 3 (40:59):
Than so much. Let's all get in trouble together.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
Goodbye, scumbags.
To Teas in a Pod with Teddy Mellencamp and Cameridge Edge.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Hey, guys, welcome back to another episode of Chew Cheese
in the Pod with myself and to Lorries. Hello. Oh
my gosh, so let's get into it. Beverly Hills is
officially done for the season. The third reunion came out
last night, and oh my gosh, I didn't think it
needed to be supersized.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
When you say supersized, was it longer than usual?
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Yes, it was like an hour, good god, eighteen minutes
or something like that.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
I'm like, seriously, Sarah, I didn't know that, and I'm like, jeezus,
this is going on forever forever. I'm not saying it
was boring because I hate to see all the shows go.
When they go, you get attached to watching something right
and you have to fill that spot. But I was like,
(01:08):
this is dragging out.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
They were letting me in on that I didn't know.
Starts out where Bose calls out Setting for labeling her
as an angry black woman on the after show set
and claim she only said bows was angry because she
was yelling. Bo shut that down real quick. She says,
don't say I was yelling because I don't yell, set
(01:31):
and said, bos came in strong and both responded, I
am strong, Bows.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
I'm gonna make a bet with you if you don't yell.
Now that you're a housewife, there's going to be a
time where you're gonna yell. Just tell you. I know,
but tell me what about your wife that doesn't yell?
I bet you five bucks, Bows. I mean, we all
yell one time or another. It's in you, it's in you,
(02:02):
it's in me because we know that. Well, no, Camra,
we know that you can do it. But Bose, as
a rule, she's a professional woman. She handles things differently.
You know, she comes from a world where there's hr
and there's all these these you know, good point, there's
(02:25):
all these different things. But guess what that doesn't that's
not in this.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
World, so not housewife world. And guess what, it's not
just a housewife thing yelling. It's a human thing.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
It's a human thing.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Yes, uh huh.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
And and this is you know that the grounds for
some yelling. So it's coming. Yeah, so it's coming, Bose,
I promise you you would yell at some point.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Question somebody on that couch said that Sutton buys people.
I can't remember who it was. It was Dory Dory, Okay,
so Stry says it set and buys people. He's like,
uh uh ah, she's frugal. I think she's cheap. I
would have to say. Kathy gave us some comedy, so.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
She did say that to her, and I have to
say it was funny. I don't know that she's cheap.
And then here comes gar Selled to the rescue. As always,
She's not cheap. I know. I don't think she buys people.
I have a lot to say about this, so I
don't know if you're on the same page with me
as this.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
There's a lot to talk about and there's a lot
of factors that went into it. So then let's move
on to Jurie denied in playing that Sudden has a
drinking problem, which is a total lie. She absolutely has
said Sutton has a drinking problem.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
She's the one who said was it her or was
it Kyle who said it? Well, no, she went over
when she was by Kyle's house, I think one morning
and she walked in and she was like, well, she
drinks poka in the morning or what I think?
Speaker 2 (03:58):
I think everybody has made a comment about it. I mean,
when you have a mixer that you carry in your purse, Yeah,
that to me is a little bit of a red flag.
But that's just me.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
So I don't drink, right, So I don't see the
joy in it. I don't. I don't comment on people
who do drink a lot. I happen to be nervous
around people who drink. As I've said before, it makes
me nervous. It's not my thing. But hey, all the
power to you if you could get the edge off
(04:31):
by drink, I guess. I mean, but any too much
of anything is no good, right, But it's not for
us to say Tamra no, I well, not me and you.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
I mean, I mean I might have said it, okay,
but she denies it. But but Andy also noted that
Jurid had agreed with a comment on Instagram calling Sudden
a drunk commenting facts. Jurid instantly turn that bitch around
just like this and directed the blame on her like
(05:03):
she didn't even address it. She didn't be like, yeah
I did say that. Yeah, I did call her like whatever.
She turned it around, and it was.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Just like, well you say it, you say it was
because of COVID and dah da.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Dah and then she also insisted Dard also insisted if
she wanted to paint Sutton as an alcoholic, she would
have done a hell of a lot more than what
she's done.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
So she basically she said it in so many words.
She didn't come out and call her an alcoholic, but
she has hooked the bear about it. And you know,
Sutton's not stupid. But you know, I don't like the
lack of accountability that Dori is taking here.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
She didn't take any accountability. No, non zip zelch. We
have a tweet, we have many comments like she in
this just this season. It's like is there alcohol and not?
I mean it's Sutton. Of course there's alcohol in it.
So she insinuates a lot, but she doesn't actually come
out and say the words ericacues Sudden of kicking women
(06:06):
when they are down. Now, Sudden asked if Kyle and
Dured had done the same to Erica. Erica said, she
cussed them out privately.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Okay, so they did, they did, so, so Erica, you're
just saying, you're kind of like just saying that Sutton
did it. And Sutton's like, wait a second, I'm not
the only one who did it.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Well, kyle In says they never kicked Erica when she
was down. Ever, I think that there was an overall
feeling within the group that Erica was doing something wrong.
And I think that Sutton accused Erica of a lot
of stuff throughout the years about her legal issues and
that she did. I mean, she went, she went really
deep on those that situation. So, I mean, I think
(06:52):
there is er well you could tell there.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
Is some certain can't stomach her.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
I think there's some truth to it. I honestly do.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
When Erica said it's it's warranted. And you know, Erica
has moved on from it. You know, I don't think
that they attacked something when things were happening, because when
she was fighting with them, they were down, Like there's
a lot of things they could have come back and
said at those times. But they don't fight like New Jersey.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
No, they don't.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
So there's these this under lying resentment amongst all of them,
I think, and towards Sutton. But you know, I I'll
say it again, I'll die on this hill. No one
had Erika's back when she was going through that.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
I think some of the girls did. I don't think
that Kyle did, but I think there was a lot
of conversations.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
I don't think. I wouldn't say they kicked her, but
I wouldn't say they said. We believe that you didn't know,
because you're our friend and you're saying you didn't do it.
So until you're somebody proves differently, we we believe you.
Nobody said that.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
No one said that at all ever.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
And you know, when she was sitting there and the
tears were strolling down her face, nobody said to Sutton,
shut the up and get off her back. She's going
through enough like they just didn't. So, yeah, that's all
I have to say about that.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Yeah. Well, a fan claims set and yells and throws
tantrums when people confront her about her hypocrisy and bad behavior.
Garcela says, sometimes World of Doubles Dan standards that's also
known as Housewives. Garcel said, sometimes it seems that way
depends on who's pushing her buttons. Garcela is done at
this point for sticking up for sudden, I feel.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Well, it's about time.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
It's kind of like she's pissed off and you can
see it all over her face, no know how.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Like she was fed up to hear, like she just
had enough. Yeah, she had enough enough. Wait, I want
to ask you. So she came into the reunion saying,
I hope we take a cast photo. What happened from
there to the end that made her like just enough?
(09:15):
Like it was just enough?
Speaker 1 (09:29):
You know.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
I think it started with Bo's kind of reprimanding her.
I think that really pushed her over the edge about
the break in of the house right right, and Garcel
doubled down on that, and Bose is like, no, like
you should not be doing that. Da da da, And
then I think it continued with Sutton. Sutton didn't have
(09:50):
her back, like she had no zero.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
One, not one thing did Sutton say in her favor,
and right until the end when and they said what
did you take? What was your favorite part of the season,
what did you what was surprised you? What did you take?
She said, I loved seeing Sutton and her mother whatever
it was that she said, But it had to do
(10:13):
with again being a friend to Sutton. There's a lot
of things she could have she could have said, I'm
surprised that maybe this girl sitting next to me really,
isn't that good of a friend to me?
Speaker 2 (10:24):
She could have said that, she could have said that,
she kept her mouth shut. She was clearly irritated from
the get go.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
He was.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
I don't think listen, I don't think it was her
intention to go out there and quit. I think because
she said from the very beginning, let's all finally take
a cast photo. In the very end, she's like, peace out,
I'm done. So I think that it's been something she's
been thinking about. I think every housewife that's been on
for quite a while is like, is this not that long?
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Is this it? Maybe this is it for me? Like
what was she like four or five years?
Speaker 3 (10:57):
And five years? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (10:58):
And she has a lot else going on. It's the
housewives that have like, does nothing else going.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
On that she doesn't want to get this. Yeah, my friend,
nobody really likes me. And then there's the I feel
like there's a little bit of an ego thing. You know,
here comes bows, yeah, big boss bows, Yeah, kind of
like reprimands her about how what she thinks she said.
But and I feel like Garcel saying that's how I
(11:26):
felt about it. But I think her ego was hurt
a little bit once again once again, just sat there,
she does.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
That's what's all she's been doing. But Garcel said she
was pissed because she doesn't get any grace in this
group and her is not accepted. No, no one smiled Bill.
Let me ask you or people supposed to be smiling
each other at the reunion. Like to me, going to
the union reunion is usually like I'm dreading it. I
don't want to do this, you know. I think it
was more of but I'm always in the hot seat.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
So I think that Garcel felt that she was on
an island. There are people that say I'm on an island. Meanwhile,
they have the backing of everybody. People stand behind them
and hold their hand through good and bad. Not this.
I do feel like Garcel felt very singled out. And
(12:23):
you know when when you put all your eggs in
that one basket of a friend and then you really
it's not reciprocal. Where do you go from there?
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Yeah, I think you're right. I think that she felt
like she was on island. I've I've had seasons where
I felt like I was on an island. You were,
and and yes, and and it's one of those situations
where you go into every filming just being so anxious
and you know, am I gonna get yelled at today?
What's going to happen? And after a while, when you're
on that island, it's like, why am I on the show?
And I really do feel like so I think that's
(12:56):
what that was. Yeah, I think we're real good for
with Sutton. And then sudden you know she's flip flopping.
She's not being there for her. She setting so badly
wants to be in the whole like group of girls,
you know, being besties with them, where it's always been
Garcela and Sutton. They've been that, they've been like the
Fox Force five, they're the two that always stick together.
(13:19):
So now she doesn't have Sutton sticking up Or was.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
It was it just garcels sticking for Satin because Sutton's
always getting in trouble?
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Yeah, or was it I don't know, No, it was
it was the two of them always like, you know.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
But it's Sutton, give me a time where Sutton, please,
like give me a time where Suton showed her her
allegiance to Garcel.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Well, not not in this reunion. I'm missing it, and
not in this reunion there wasn't. But I do feel
like in the past years they do. They stick together
and they back each other up. So that's why I
think it was more of a shock to Garcella. It's like,
where's my friend? Where's my friend? When you don't have
a lot of friends in a group and your one
friend is not being there for you, You're like, why
(14:05):
am I here? What am I doing?
Speaker 3 (14:07):
You know? Sett and branched out. She brought on Jennifer Tilly. Yeah,
and now it just wasn't her and Garceal. So now
her and Jennifer are getting lunchtime and talk time and
sitting on the couch together, you know, at the at
the cash trip, and you know, here's garcel going off
(14:30):
in her room to herself.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Well, and also, I feel like Setton was so desperately
wanting Kyle as her bestie this year, and I don't
know where that changed, because there's always been a little
bit of bickering friendship, but a lot of bickering between
the two of them. Well because same ile, I know why.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
I know why, because Kyle gave her a little attention
this season.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Well, I screw some crumbs, That's what I saw. I
think that Kyle's a staple to the show. Everybody wants
to be her friend. In this group, Sutton has stuck
to gurselves for so many years and now for some
reason she's pulling away and she's like, I need Kyle
to be my bestie. And it was a little desperado.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
Yeah thanks, And yeah, well, I mean, I mean it's
nice to make friends with other people and not to
be just friends with it. I mean, that's what I think.
But you can never forget who is that one solid
person for you.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Yeah, And I do believe like these shows are about
conflict and resolution and if you are a person We've
talked about this before, if you don't want to make
up with somebody, you don't want to be friends with somebody,
or try your best to be friend somebody and if
they're not having it, then there's nothing you can do.
But that's what the shows are about too. When you
try to isolate somebody, you're just making yourself look bad
(15:51):
and you're not showing yourself as you know, a a
in a positive way. When it comes to the network,
conflict resolution, complect result Like, if you're can't do that,
then you shouldn't be on the show.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Honestly, you have to drop things like like Erica Jane said,
She's like, listen, yeah, yeah, I have I have issues
with you, but I decided to move on from them.
And yeah we did find a better place this season.
And something's like, but you know, why are you bringing
it up when you said you moved on from it?
She said, I did move on for it, but doesn't
(16:25):
mean I can't bring it up. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Eric is very good at moving on. She can get up,
yet she'll move on.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
She really, you know, she really got past how she
was kind of like when things went went down for her,
she kind of got pasted. She never held anybody accountable
for not really.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
She never plays victim, no, never, And that's what I
love about her. She's one top girl. She you know,
she takes care of her now and it's like you don't,
I don't give a shit.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
She she's resilient. Yeah, I am resilient. I saw her.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
I saw her the other day and I was venting
about some things and she's like, don't get in there
and do it, like you know what I mean. Like
she's like, you don't worry about it like her, and like,
don't worry about it.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
Can get you there and do it. At Bravo Khan,
she had this tight lycra dress on. It was like plastic.
Oh yes, yes, I'm I'm Here's me, short fat Italian
girl from New Jersey, putting my eye lashes on, you know,
fixing my makeup in the bathroom. And then I look
(17:40):
up and there's the Barbie Doll Erica Jane standing behind me.
And I'm like, Eric, look at look at yourself in
the mare.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Such a presence, right, It's insane.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
It is insane. I don't just everything is perfectly in.
It's just where it belongs. I don't know what else
to say.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
The legs, you know, every arms, the long legs, yes,
the tors so, everything, the attitude, it's all top notch.
So Erica hasn't finalized her divorce from Tom, but her
lawyers wants her to move forward. Andy brought up Tom's
conviction and his request to be moved to a hospital.
Erica says she's only considered visiting him when he passes,
(18:27):
explaining that he's no longer mentally present.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
That if I came there, you don't even know who cares.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Yeah, that that made me sad. You know, I'm sure
that she wants to see him, but he's also put
her through so much. She doesn't twenty past years with him.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
So even if you want to see somebody, you're going
to go see them, whether they're coherent or not.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
I don't know. I just feel like you know, you
don't gey. So she's like, no, no.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
She doesn't want to go see him. That was okay,
save face like them saying are you going to see him?
To support she doesn't want to see him? Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Well, she had a very good response to Andy when
he asked, do you think Tom is guilty now? Eric responded,
it doesn't really.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
Not for me to know yet, it's not my decision.
The law the law. It was a great answer, that's
the truth. But she she gave both answers very enough
to get her off the hook of going any further
with him pushing her to answer, well, there's not much
more an answer without giving an answer.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
But there's nothing left to do.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
Do you want to go see him? He's not mentally there.
Why would I go see him? Okay, that's enough. She
was put in such a position from him almost homeless,
I want to say, like she didn't know where her
next Neil was coming.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
From She couldn't even imagine she done the whole.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
You know what though, Tamra being a single mom going
through divorce. You you've been there before.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
Joe being in a lawsuit in my past.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
Oh the lawsuit.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Yeah, those are so mentally draining and exhausting. He'll scary,
it could kill you.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
You physically sick. Like That's what I'm saying. It's like
unhealthy stress. It's like you can get sick from it.
It can years later.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Manifest Yeah, so that she was good.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
I don't blame a lot, and I get it.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
Hopefully on the other side.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
The closure is with herself, that's it.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Yeah, So it was very sweet for Andy acknowledged Teddy's
you know, being diagnosed with cancer is very sweet. You
have to you have to remember at that time of
the reunion, Teddy was still in the hospital. So, yes,
So I had seen Kyle at the hospital and she
(20:48):
had told me for the reunion, and I knew that
had to be the hardest thing in the world for
her to do because of this, because you know, they're
best friends and she was worried sick, and it is
hard for sure, and I think.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
That is a very unsure time yes, yes.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
And I do think Andy's being a little bit messy. Asked,
you know, talking about that, because I think there was
a motivation behind it, because he knew I'm sure from somebody.
The Duried hadn't reached out yet, and her response had
not reached out to Teddy, and her response was she'd
prefer to wait until Teddy was out of the thick
of it.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
Yeah, that's what everyone does when they're worried about someone.
They wait till they get better to see if they're okay.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Shut the up.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
Yeah I didn't. I didn't.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
I don't operate like that. I don't operate.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
Actually, I was being sarcastic. I know. That's actually what
I said to the TV when she said that. And
again not taking accountability. Maybe that's something you should do,
like you know what I I probably should have been.
I'm going to do it now. Not Oh, I'm just
(22:01):
waiting for a better time.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
I mean, just to send a text message or to
reach out to Kyle like she from what I understand,
she didn't even reach out to Kyle. And here she
is bitching because Kyle reached out.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
To p K.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
You know, she also reached out, reached out to durate
during the divorce. They weren't even speaking and considering knowing
what Kyle's going through with this, Like you can't even
reach out and say, hey, you know, my heart is broken,
you know, give her my love whatever. Because a lot
of people did, a lot of people did, like people
that necessarily wrangers did, yes, strangers the whole world, but
(22:37):
even people in the housewife world that wasn't you know,
maybe close with Teddy on the cast. I mean, I
think almost the entire cast had reached out.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
You know.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
If Erica facetimed her set an editor to her prayer,
Chain Bose, who I don't even think has ever met her,
offered to send her food, like that's just what you do.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Yeah. Well they've since treat reached out and they're good now.
Of course, this is a time not to worry or
to hold a grudge. You know, Teddy has to worry
about getting better, and of course camera we all have
to focus on the positive things all we can for this. Yes,
but it says a lot to me.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
It says a lot to me.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
I'm going to say, yeah, I am that person who
reaches out, who worries, who tries to do my best
if I, uh, yeah, so.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
I mean, my god, Vicky Gumblson reached out to Teddy
and even said to a present, and she's been through
a book a colorable things about her for years, and
she said, listen, this ain't right.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
This is.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Yes, yes, And I know Vicky personally, and I know
she's lost a few people to cancer, so I know
that it's very something that's close to her heart. But
you know that that's somebody. This is somebody that she
Teddy worked with, you know, Dori. Really she went to
Durrey's house when she got robbed, and she anymore. So
I can go on and on, because this is very
(24:09):
frustrating for me, but let's just move on.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
So I don't we're going to move on from that.
But you know what, I don't think we have to
say a lot about it. I think it speaks a
lot for itself.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
Yes, yeah, something I don't have to Yeah, So then
we move on. Andy asked Kyle if Mariso had filed
for divorce. Kyle said no. She got emotional, saying she
regrets how their separation deteriorated. She didn't know he was
dating anyone until she saw the airport photos, though she assumed.
Kyle admitted she used to check his messages whether they're separated.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
So if she checked his messages, she would have known
exactly who that girl was. The girl just didn't show
up without saying, hey, are you here? She didn't like
a shot in the dark, So if Kyle was getting
his messages, Kyle knew exactly what was going on.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
But he did say there was a point in the
separation where she just stopped looking and I.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
Do, oh yeah, But then when that picture comes out,
she didn't go back and look. I know how she
was finding.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
Probably, but how is she doing it?
Speaker 3 (25:11):
Does she have a computer? I computer pad? His his
Apple ID was hooked up to something. So while his
texts are going to the computers in the house, do.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
You have does Polly have your phone?
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Like?
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Can he get into it? He can have it, yeah,
but I mean does it? Does he check it? Does
he go through it? Do you go through his?
Speaker 3 (25:33):
Never? Never? No, No, I don't. But you know there's
always that one day where you go, I got a
little feeling a little a little gut feeling. Yeah, I
haven't had that with Paul. My my phone is left.
I hand pulled my phone and go could you please,
you know, put it over there or whatever, doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
So he has my password. He gave me his pastord,
but I don't remember it, like it's not anything. I
should have wrote it down just in case you never.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
Know, Well you can always.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
Yeah, No, he just gives you. If I want to
look at his money, you'd give it to me. But
I'm just and I would give him mind, but I don't.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
I don't know. But if we're not through a breakup. So,
but so Kyle had during this time. I'm sorry, but
Kyle was getting all his messages.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
Well, Kyle is much like Teddy because they're investigators. So
she said she didn't know he's dating anybody until he
saw the airport picture. Kyle Mitch. She used to check
his messages while they were separated. Now she stopped looking,
and I'm sure he now after seeing this, he's like,
hell no, I don't know how you're seeing him. But
I'm taking this well.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
So all he has to do is changes apple I
D and I'm sure and get it anymore.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
I'm sure it's done now.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
But by the time he figured out that she was
getting all these things, because at one point he goes,
how does she know everything.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
She's like, I know every crumb. This job right here
is just a side hustle. I'm actually a detective.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
Every woman is every woman can do that. Sis, you
had his apple ID for many years and you just
never let on. You never gave up your source. But
then you told him too much about what you knew
and he figured it out, or maybe some other woman
he was sitting across from when he picked up his
phone and goes, how does she know everything? And the
(27:37):
twenty year old goes, dumb, dumb, we have every code.
We could break a code in three minutes.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
I wonder though, if she knew everything, but she was
telling because if she told him the things that she knew,
then he'd be like, where you're getting that information? So
she was probably very smart and kept it to herself.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
Well, she shouldn't have told him anything she knew. The
time I tell you everything I know will be the
last time you see.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Me, Jeff. So for the first time, first time ever,
I feel like Kyle is acknowledging her potential feelings for
Morgan Wade.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
There, you know, she said, she's the first time.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Well, I mean she's been very quesite about that last
year they got matching tattoos and things. She said, she's
not coming out, but she has questions for her daughters
and support regardless of how she identifies. Kyle said that
her kids were very supportive. So Kathy was over there
laughing her as Esterica laughing her ass off.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
Did Kathy say I'm gonna be a lesbian just so
you don't feel alone?
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Well, well, I was waiting for that next, but she
did say, like I told my girls, And Andy said, wait,
you told your girls you're a lesbian, and she's like huh.
But you know what, at this point, I just feel like,
leave this alone. Whatever her feelings are for Morgan or
not for Morgan, at this point like it, just leave
her alone, leave her alone.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
Camera. I know you guys are closed and your friends,
and I happen to think it comes I'm Kyle's I
am a fan. I saw her stick up for that
dog the other day. I ask I would have fought
that bitch. If I was with Kyle, Kyle could have
ran behind me. We would have been duking, and I
would have went a couple of rounds with that woman.
I'm going to just tell you right now, for.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
I was of you that haven't seen it. There is
a video going around on social media where Kyle, Teddy,
I think Jen, and a few other people were walking.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
With this lady was stagging her little dogs across the street.
And you know, I looked at some of the comments
and they were like, Kyle, stay out of it.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
No, no, Kyle said, Kyle is an animal lover. And
Kyle said something to the when we didn't hear the audio,
at least I didn't, and basically like, don't do that
to your dogs. This woman ripped her scarf off and
she was chasing Kyle around.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
It was so funny because Kyle was like trying to
hide and like she was running behind. Let me tell you,
Kyle got behind.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Teddy and it was funny because Teddy's like, she's afraid
of nothing. This I'm telling you. I know this for
a fact. Teddy is afraid of nothing. And she just
stood there like I'm not running from you.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
Yeah no, So it would have been I promise you
would have been an altercation if it was in New Jersey.
But Kyle's so cute, adorable. Kyle, thank you very much
for that alone, for that act, of that courageous act.
I am not going to talk about you and wait
at all, and if you don't want to talk about it,
I'm good with that.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
So after filming wrapped, Andy said they were taking a
cast photo. Garcelle declined when asked why, she said, I
don't want to be in the cast photo. In her
dressing room, garcel said she's grateful for the opportunity, but
done with the show. There assholes, she said before leaving.
I don't think she needed to say that. I know
she was mad. I probably would have done the same
(31:07):
thing because I say ship that I don't.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
Really mean worse.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
Yeah, the group went ahead with the photo. Sutton tried
to find garcel at afterward after the photo and she's like, wait,
what can I Can I just go to supper?
Speaker 3 (31:24):
Supper? Can I just say one thing? Yeah? When Sutton
went to leave, garcel was the first one to get
up after her many a time, okay on the boat.
When when Sutton went outside after the whatever you want
to call it, the trial that they had on her
(31:46):
or whatever you want to call it, she yeah, she
went with Sutton. Jennifer Tilly went was last reunion. When
Sutton went to pass out, garcel left with her her self,
caught some heat on that she did. She caught heat
for leaving with her friends. So now on, Sutton, I'm
(32:07):
only speaking this out loud, not because I don't like you,
because I do like you. I've been I've been to
your apartment in the city and and you were kind.
We've been in Bravo Khan together, we've met several times.
But I want you to just see what I'm saying here, Sutton,
because I know you're a sensible woman. I just want
to point out that when when Garcela walked away, you
(32:30):
didn't follow her. You stood there and you talk to
the girls. They weren't being that nice about her leaving.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
Well, I wish somebody would have followed her.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
Ah, Sutton, you go after the picture, Sutton. What I
would have done would have said, guys, give me a
couple of minutes, let me go speak to her before
we take this picture. You didn't do that. And then
when you went to the room and saw that she
had left, you said, oh, I thought we were going
to supper again about you, Satin, And it wasn't about
(33:03):
oh my god, I'm sick. Should I have come sooner?
Should I have not let her go? No, you're worried
about who you're gonna sit and eat with.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Well, I mean, let's play devil's advocate a little bit.
Like Garcel said something nice about Sutton, and Sutton chose
to suck up to Erica, the same person who called
Garcel uninteresting. She probably felt totally on her own after that.
And I know a lot of people, like on my
social media, I asked questions like, what did you think
a lot of people were upset that Garcel left and
(33:31):
feels like she candish it, but she can't take it.
But you have to also understand somebody's like mentally where
they're at at that moment, if they're very hurt and
very sad. And I don't think she's mad. I think
she was sad and upset, and she felt like she
was pushed out on an island by herself, and so
that's why she was reacting like that. I probably would
(33:51):
have done the same thing. So you can't really judge
until you're in that position.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
But and then Dorri yells at her that was so unprofessional.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
Oh please please, Dorrit. Dorrit was two hours late to
the reunion last year because she was having that Kate
put over her head or whatever. It was like that outfit.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
So you would never be allowed to be two hours
lately in trillion years.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
But that's unprofessional. She's she did the whole reunion. She
that's professional. She didn't want to take a picture. That's
just being pissed off. I think I don't think.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
That's being a phony because the cast picture shows that
you're all moving on from whatever it was that you
spoke about. That we're in a picture together. And she
was like, I'm not I'm getting up and I'm leaving.
But at the same time, and I'm going to say,
Dorrie has the right to not like her for what
(34:51):
she said about her home invasion. It's kind of like
you can't come back from that. So I'm not going
to be mad. I'm not mad at Dorrit for saying
that to her. I'm not. I can't be. But but
I think that everybody runs after everybody when they walk
off or run off. I think the nail that brought
(35:12):
the nail in the coffin was getting getting her kind
of her ass handed to her a little bit by bows.
And I think that there's like kind of a pecking order,
like I was here before you.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
I think so out I think so know how to.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
Really say it. It's just that's what I mean.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
Yeah, that would bug me too. I think that I'm
more mad at Sutton for not sticking by her side.
I think Sudden should have stuck up for Garcel because
Garcela has stuck up for so many years. You know, listen,
I don't do you think. Let me ask you a
question here. So there's two ways of looking at this.
Garcel said at the very beginning of this show this year,
(35:54):
everyone could take a cast photo. Was it a pre
planning her was she please, are you planning her walkout?
Or was it like she did not? Because I don't
think so. I think that I don't think so got
irritated as time went on for those housagers sitting there
and she's like out.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
I'm not going to say she didn't have one foot
out the door and one on a banana peel. I'm
not going to say that she wasn't on her last leg.
There was still redemption there while she sat there. The
fact that she stayed through the whole thing and never
got up and walked off and left, the fact that
(36:31):
she didn't do it until the end tells me that
she sat there waiting for something different to happen. Yeah,
she was giving it a chance.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
She was, and she was getting more irritated as time
went on, that's for sure.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
And I think if someone, anybody there would have given
her this much, maybe a smile maybe. How about after
she said no one smiled at me and no one
gave a that she said it really they were like, well, yeah,
we're not smiling at anybody, but they kind of were.
(37:06):
There was a you know they do like you sit
next to someone, you talk to the person you're next
to or what you know it.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
There was some information from the cast that said that
Garcel never got close in a body. She checked in,
she clopped in, she clocked out afterwards something.
Speaker 3 (37:25):
Yes, what you get, Gara? I mean friends?
Speaker 2 (37:27):
Yeah, Like sometimes we will film like we filmed yesterday,
and then afterwards you hang out for a little while
and you talk and you know, but if you're just
go do your scene, you get out and you're gone.
You know, you're putting that message out there that maybe
potentially that's.
Speaker 3 (37:41):
What it is. Friends, but you didn't put your time in. Yeah, relationships,
aren't you know, if you're going to be on the show,
you really kind of form relationships with people outside of it.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
Yeah, well, the Pink pock Box said, I think Sutton
was a catalyst for Garcel leaving set has no loyalty.
Then Trish the Dish nine one two says, I wish
Garsla would have said everything on stage that she said
back in her dressing room to her team, And I
agree with that. I wish she would have spoke her
mind because it really was like, Okay, I'm out, I
(38:15):
don't want to do this anymore, you know, f all
of you. But why why wouldn't you tell them? Why
tell me?
Speaker 3 (38:24):
Why? You know? Like because again, when you're so hurt,
like when I'm hurt, or when I'm mad, or when
I'm upset, it takes me a minute to articulate everything
that I feel. I don't think that about her. She's
very well spoken, and you know she's got a lot
more going on as far as jobs and producing and
(38:46):
things like that. But you know, I mean, like you
just said, echoing what you just said and going back
to what you just said, there is still a degree
of what can you you know, humanly like when you
or hurt, you just can't even sometimes you can't.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
Just yeah, no, I get it. That's a that's a
very good point, A very good point. I mean, at
least she said how she felt backstage with her glam
team and all that. So we did get kind of
a button on that. I'm curious, has Garcel talked to
Sutton sense the reunion's been over? And what is Sutton thinking?
Because she is, like I heard, no, she's it's sudden
(39:27):
is going to drown without Garcel by her side.
Speaker 3 (39:30):
Next year we'll see, well.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
Who's giving her best buddy.
Speaker 3 (39:37):
He's going to stick get Kyle some more practical crystals.
I mean, she's holding a crystal that's the size of my.
Speaker 2 (39:49):
How I mean, how many times did she drop that?
Speaker 3 (39:51):
Like enough? But like honestly, okay, I know that was
I'm like, what is that? What does she in this
size too? They come in this size?
Speaker 2 (40:03):
I know she had this like big old amethyst or hands.
Speaker 3 (40:06):
She's just this little thing. So those are my thoughts.
Those are my thoughts.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
So Beverly Hills is done. Miami is coming out next month.
They haven't very very excited about that.
Speaker 3 (40:22):
I love Maristol and Mike Gurdi and Lexia.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
Oh I love them all. I really do you know.
It's always sad to say goodbye to another season of
any show.
Speaker 3 (40:34):
Well not only told you, because then you have to
fill that that gap.
Speaker 2 (40:38):
Yeah yeah, So that all that means is we're going
to be having some new shows come out.
Speaker 3 (40:43):
I enjoyed this very much.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
This is very fun.
Speaker 3 (40:46):
This is very fun, and they think we agree on
a lot of things.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
That we're going to get ourselves into big trouble one day.
Speaker 3 (40:55):
I'm waiting love.
Speaker 2 (40:57):
Thank you guys for tuning in to another.
Speaker 3 (40:59):
Than so much. Let's all get in trouble together.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
Goodbye, scumbags.
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